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Russian Troops Tunnel Under UA Lines - CRITICAL Area Under THREAT - Ukraine War Map Update News
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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Today we talk about the Russia's offensive and look at the war map updates.
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Is it any surprise Russia is using tunnels? They’re quite proficient with shovels by all reports.
I'm surprised it took them this long.
The Russians are retreating! They aren't pushing forward! Oh wait, they were digging tunnels
@@lonelylad9818
This is merely the first "reported case" of Russian tunnelling. It certainly doesn't make it the first time it's happened.
Welllll, 🤣considering they're doing better than the Shitkrainians with a lot of the best the west has to offer given free
In Toretsk it was dug - almost two miles long according to Daily Mail. According to them Russia has done it twice but I won't be surprised if they have done if before and currently digging more tunnels.
Belarus and China are not part of the conflict and why is then their joint military exercise called "escalation". NATO is having the same things all over Europe.
donbass miners dug the tunnel.
Second time “tunnels in New York” has been a headline in the past year or so.
Any news how Ukraine took down 11/13 Kh-101 missiles yesterday when we saw in just one video 6 of them hitting a target.
One of the targets - children's hospital.
@@skatitajs_nr13grow up
@@TheJZP All you could muster, babyboy?
Hey hey hey, ehat are ypu saying? Your eyes are more trustworthy than Ukraine MOD?
@@skatitajs_nr13 children hospital was hit with NATO air defense,many evidence already
Again, they used an old tunnel. It's like the local residents are on Russia's side and want to see the Zelensky regime defeated or something.@WillyOAM you didn't mention this is the 2nd time in a year Russia did this.
apparently, they dug it,remember Donbas is a mining area and members of the Donas militia are in the Russian army now, Tunneling has been a feature of warfare fro centuries,
According to Military Summary channel this might have been the 4-th instance of a tunnel used by the Russians. Also this one is speculated to be dug out recently, not a cleared out old pipe.
And yes, Willy admitting "ukrainians" are favouring Russia to Ukraine will destroy half of his narrative, so it's not going to happen ever.
People of Donetsk, Luhansk etc are Russians and liberated by Russians.
3rd* tunnel 😉In Niu York they did the same 🤣🤣.
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 Ethnic Russians were the largest group but they were only around 38% of the citizens of the Donbas and Luhansk oblasts.
The Ukrainian soldiers see the light at the end of the tunnel but it ain't what they expect to see. It's the flash of working shovels.
Better shovels where you get a chance to surrender than the light being an explosion of a FAB-3000
@@Archer89201 We need MOAR! FAB-9000 sill vous plait.
NAFO: “Russian weapons are garbage”
Russians: Watch this, 💥💥💥💥 sends NAFO fleeing.
Nato laughing at this joke knowing that they are not there
Lugansk and Donetsk are mining regions.. A lot of miners from there are in Russian Army. They know how to dig tunnels.
Russia has shown an incredible ability to innovate and adapt and produce.
These are the same guys who crushed the Wehrmacht 80 years ago.
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If “innovation” was defined by shooting missiles into a children’s hospital. You guys are a global joke.
@@Coditel666false, without British & Americans, the soviets would’ve collapsed since then in that case the Wehrmacht wouldn’t be navy blocked = oil & then wouldn’t be stupid & try & take a massive country like the Soviet Union in 3 months. It’s was nuts! But yes, soviets soldiers payed a huge price for freedom of many in Europe, certainly deserve respect, however they did not crush, a massive price was paid rather.
@@Dimension37Absolute BS. The Soviets would have lost more people and taken more time but they wouldn't have lost. The west provided many things some of which were useful and some that weren't very useful. However there wouldn't have been any collapse.
The problem is Ukr doesn't protect cities with SAMs, they protect SAMs with cities... Air defense should engage missiles before big cities, not from the middle of the city.
The SAMs are in reserve, they are precious
reminds me of the story last year where a weapons plant was hidden under the international press corps in a different theater, or the 'disguising bomb making as baby formula factory' story from Hussein's era..
What a preposterous comment. How would cities protect SAMs when putler is attacking children's hospitals and maternity hospitals?
UK is being invaded. UIK should rather protect its underage girls from grooming.
@@saltyyankee5149 almost nothing during Iraq was true though
Pl stop this talk of North Korea, as if Russia depends on n. Korea for everything.
It is very well known that these are munining lands and people living there have worked in these or similar mines. The tunnel thing is entirely Russian for they have the best knowledge if the area including detailed maps. Add to that many in this region are miners. So you do not need Koreans to dig the tunnels.
This DPRK card is played by the West to indirectly tell its population that we are not wrong about Russia, they are nothing without China and now Korea.
Funny how Russia knows more about Ukraine than Ukraine itself.
@@sleepyjoe7843 Because Donbass is historically a Russian region
@@sleepyjoe7843 you should be surprised, but only thirty years ago it all was a one country.
@@ZlolupKO Yes and country Ukraine was invented, it's just sad that after 30 years Russians still know more about these territories than Ukrainian government.
Does anybody else hear Super Mario music when Russians pop out of a tunnel?
Genius
Now I do.😅
I hear benni hill when they try to dodge the FPV'S.
As a matter of fact, the tunnel shown on your clip is an old mine tunel. They just had to clear it as it was not used for many years.
Willie doesn't doubt Russia's ability to innovate weapons systems, but digging tunnels - now Russia can't possibly do that without North Koreans. Way to not underestimate the enemy!
Well russia like america has nuclear powered tunnel boring machines. So if they really wanted they could tunnel long distances. But you are correct thousands of nk soldiers could do a lot of digging
Donbass miners
@@brianfitch5469 most of eastern Ukrainian people ,that are fighting against Kiev regime &Nato were miners before the war....
so its not hard for them to dig a tunnel
North Korean engineering troops are tunneling for the Russians
They do it themselves. They release the footage after the mission is accomplished.
lol how is chinese military training in Belarus a escalation when Euros are off the Chinese coast for years with their dad
It's not but China does it attentionaly. It's really about judgment and that is bad judgment
@@sshumkaerWhat does "attentionally" mean?
Shovels going hard 😁
Eh, those shovels - AGAIN!
Is Russia having more success with missile strikes or is Ukraine having less success on enforcing the law on people publishing the results? 🤔
Funny how there is a ban on filming sights in Kiev but all of a sudden there`s hundreds of them. We all know why.
Both
@@MrBeagleblue Why?
Because they are begging for patriots again
@@MrBeagleblueofc there not gonna show Ukraine losing the war it will lower morale wars are fought in different ways
Beneath Hill 60 is a AMAZING combat movie.
Largest non nuclear explosion was either the Halifax Explosion WW1 or the I believe the USA also had a major ammo explosion that did nearly as much damage during WW2
Robotyne has fallen few months ago! Your map is just not updated!
Who took over robocop?
Ok bro
It's not Willy's map so he can't update it. The Deep State map won't update that area for PR reasons. Robotyne is the only real accomplishment of the Ukrainian 2023 summer offensive and they don't want to admit that it has fallen back into Russian hands.
It didn't
@@sshumkaer
Seethe more.
Willy, maaaaate, this is the second time Russia has mounted a successful tunnel operation. The tunnels are existing Soviet aqueducts, now no longer used for their original purposes. Mining related.
There not that. It really doesn't matter
According to times radio , ukraine is just days away from winning... as a british person with a phd , i believe it from the bottom of my heart ❤ 🇺🇦 🇬🇧
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@@igor-88why are u laughing at a highly educated british person ?
They will reach moscow in no time
You must be kidding, however my sarcasm sensor did not ring 🤔
@@emunozqno sarcasm, pure facts
The hole from the ww1 tunnel bomb under the Germans is still visible in France
One of the most notable episodes was at the Battle of Messines in 1917 where 455 tons of explosive placed in 21 tunnels that had taken more than a year to prepare created a huge explosion that killed an estimated 10,000 Germans
Good morning mate! It's 3 am and I felt like getting up early and here you are with a new video for me
The Russians must've got tunneling expertise from Hamas ...
The Russians didn’t dig the tunnels Willy… the area is heavily mined area going back to the cool-as zed ColdWar years and Sovietetzky mining… that is why the landscape is covered in tailing piles. The Russians are using old Soviet tunnel maps to break in and use the old mines as avenues.
Examine that picture of the tunnel and the cribbing you just showed… the Timbers do not appear to be newly milled… that tunnel has been in place for decades.
Interesting info this be the first time I’ve heard of underground tomfoolery from the Ukraine war
@@sheogorath2657I have attempted to provide further information to you… UA-camz won’t let me drop links, and I couldn’t even spell out the URL … let’s try this… title of article: Old Mines and Salt Caves, in Euronews 09/01/2021
OK, let’s see if this’un sticks…
@@sheogorath2657 OK… that is it… I took a screen shot of my last reply (that majikally disappeared like the TWO prior)… I will post it in my community tab dealio. The comment censorship is freak”n ridiculous.
@@sheogorath2657 ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxBjMKg6mfzA3sbgjp7ggFLvmmZ3t-J-IZ?si=T7qAQ_nZmtdDn9km
"It's not some deathblow" would be a kinda unfortunate porn star name... Love your videos and hope you stay safe.
Thank you for the update :)
Someone whose arse was kicked by Afghani farmers knows not to underestimate North Koreans
Nor overestimate anything, like Russia did of themselves when they started this mess.
In other sports news,the latest update has The Donbass Miners 2 Ukrainian fortified lines 0, we are into injury time in this one.
Who would have believed that shovels would be more of a game changer than F16s!
USSR used to be world leaders in a vast number of areas and many of the institutions that did the cutting edge technology are still in place.
They are still top or near the top in earth moving tyres , which was a spin off from military tyre research .
As a metallurgist I can assure you that there are really only 2 vectors that accelerate metals research, wars & space .
There is nothing unique about either of these apart from the fact that they get almost unlimited funding for blue sky research because if that $ 2 billion results in a metal that almost impossible for spent uranium shells to penetrate then that is money well spent .
Depleted uranium
@@seanniemeyer5437 Tomato / Tomarto Potatoe /potarto
The tunnel was not dug by the Russians. This area is an coal mining area with many tunnels - they broke into and out of an existing tunnel.
Remember the Donbass is Russian and has always been Russian.
EXACTLY 👍 tunnels everywhere and always any developed area will have sewer systems underground as well. Plenty of aqueducts as well in areas. It seems Ukraine forces haven’t realized they need to plug off these underground tunnels to not be undermined literally. If I was in command of Russian forces the last thing I would provide is the details of such operations as this will only help Ukraine defend against future possible operations.
@@boxingstarcmbballer8797 You need to know where is such tunnels are. Don't forget that they probably were abandoned since USSR era and Ukraine probably aren't even have maps of such thing from old times while they might presents in russian archives or people on the ground from DPR might know about em or something and provided needed information to the commandment - who knows.
@@Erhogz Army engineering corps have been a mainstay of military operations for 200 years at this point.
One of the most important jobs for sappers since the 1870's was locating pre-existing tunnel networks.
People need to stop making excuses for Ukrainian incompetence.
This wasn't some new area they had taken. They had this territory for 2 god damn years.
tunell was burried ,flooded,etc.... Donbas miners (eastern Ukrainians that dont recognise Kiev coup regime and fight with Russians) cleared pre existing tunel
Thank you for the video willy
Good work as always. Take care and avoid the rockets!
Weren't there articles that Nato wants to expand to Asia?
Loving you channel legendary fella ❤️👍🏻🙌🏻👌🏼
Came to say same😂❤
Thanks for the update
amazing coverage as always willy
Fun fact in 1864 Union soldiers tunneled underneath a confederate position and packed the mine with tons of explosives which later came to be known as the battle of the crater. The attacking union soldiers where supposed to go around the huge crater but instead went into it where they got massacred. It is actually shown in the beginning of the movie cold mountain.
Mining under defences is as old as the hills.
It really doesn't matter. Tunneling under things are thousands of years old
Wasn't this a popular Ottoman tactic to dig tunnels under enemy fortifications & blew them up with Mines ?
Also like WW1 literally saw the use of tactics against each other ? I mean there was a movie called Beneath Hill 60 where commonwealth ( or rather Australian / Aussie ) combat engineers & miners dug a tunnel under German trench lines & blew it up with the largest load of explosives at that time till the Halifax explosion took place.
congrats Willy, good one, STAY SAFE, GOD BLESS
Those Coal miners are badass . They go underground .. we have seen more than once them using those tunnels
Hey Matt, thanks for an interresting report. You should dive into the children's hospital-missile affair very soon. We need a closer look, now a UN-envoy has visited the scene.
unless the envoy has military knowledge of missiles then the visit will not be of any use,
2 things are obvious.
First. It was a russian KH101.
All the videos that show the missile impacting the hospital, clearly show its a 101. The turbo engine on the bottom back is very recognizable.
Secondly. It's was an accidental hit.
Russia was targeting the missile factory that was BEHIND the hospital. Which was hit by what I can tell 6 missiles.
The last one went off course for whatever reason and hit the hospital in front instead
@@pierceplaysstudios245 so when do the wings of the kh101 drop off in flight? it looks more like a patriot missile.
@georgesibley7152 you can see the wings.
Sure, it looks a bit wonky, but that can ve attributed to the angle we're looking at it, the quality of the video coupled with speed its going
@@pierceplaysstudios245What you’re saying is Plausible, but the video doesn’t give near enough evidence… As for a UN envoy, that’s rich, We already know what they’re going to say before they say it;)
Now that’s a headline!
Willy love your videos and ability to inform objectively with self awareness of biases and can't wait for this Drone Gun video. When's that bad boi dropping?
GOUDAYY LEGENDS 😆
I very much enjoy your videos! Thank you!!!
Ukraine cannot handle those missiles for a very simple reason, maximal output of patriot production is 550 per year. Iris-T 400 per year.
Russian approaching 10,000 fired during SMO.
Just a reminder that since the introduction of Tomahawk in 1991, US & Co fired under 4,000 missiles in all conflicts that they were involved.
Exactly , can’t match the output
US fires less missiles generally due to lower CEP per weapon, and better targeting and kill chains.
@@FrodoSantana this is such a cliche statement.
If they're have a such a low CPE why oh why hearing of ADS exposed the patriot system close to 0 in gulf war and Iraq war. I am going to mention Saudi few years back. Ooops.
Secondly, CPE always looks impressive against guys in flipflops
@@johnyblamounth9142 because patriot aren’t used in an attack role
@@johnyblamounth9142 do you even know what CEP is?
Love you fam best of luck with everything
Keep up the good work out there
Chief of Russia’s Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Troops Lieutenant-General Igor Kirillov speaks ahead of the 106th session of the OPCW Executive Council to tell about a chemical weapons laboratory of the Ukrainian military that was discovered near Avdeyevka, and multiple cases of the use of chloropicrin by Ukraine near Donetsk, Gorlovka and Artyomovsk. Never never mentioned by. Willy.
Wow RuSSia's imaginary reports
Gagin hoped that all the information regarding Ukraine's use of toxic substances would be documented, disseminated, and brought to light at the United Nations. He also wished for it to serve as evidence in an international military tribunal against Ukrainian Nazis and war criminals. He has shrapnel wounds from Ukr dropping on him, plus horrible chemical burns on various parts of his body. Pathetic to deny this, the chemical weapons have been in use for the past year in Ukraine used by Ukr forces. Gagin is aide to Donestk leader.
@@gloglos100 That is why Russia has no right to be defeated... Tribunals and retribution for all crimes of Ukraine since 2014
Define “towards Poland” regarding hypersonics, bud.
North Koren compulsory military service is 13 years. From the age of 17-30. I would say they are well trained.
Exactly! Their whole society is set up for it, they are going to be among the best trained infantry forces in the world.
That only proves that Russians know better the area because Donbass is Russian land.
And there's also quite a number of locals, many of them miners, fighting for Russia.
No, it's in Ukraine. The nazi Russians are just attacking it.
really ? since when ? i suppose your the type of clown that thinks northern ireland is england ? stay off the weed friend its clouding your intelligence
Tell that to everyone who has been disappeared or forced to leave for their disagreement
@@duffdingelmeyer7101 Are you talking about Palestinians? Or, maybe Iraqis, Syrians, Armenians or Serbs?
Smart on China to do some training with Belarus, now nato may prevent ukr to attack belarus to try and involve poland / nato in the mix.
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No to Naziukropnato 🤗💖🇷🇺👍
There you go again darkness luv.
Name me a singles n*zi in power in Ukraine.
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I’ve been to hill 60 and seen the crater and it’s absolutely fucking massive! the explosion was even heard from London all the way from Belgium! I’ve seen a lot of the old ww1 tunnels and trenches to and they’re just as astonishing.
Stay safe willy
Hi Willy, any plans for tonight?
try message his phone .. this is u tube
A couple of points, the Poles have already said they'll cover WESTERN Ukraine, no boundaries stated and no Norks necessary considering the Donbass has a number of coal miners in the military
Hey Willy! Have you ever read a book called The Fifth Angel by David Wiltse? It's an old one, but a very good one. It's about a Vet who doesn't understand that the war he was fighting is over. I won't say any more as I wouldn't want to spoiler it if you haven't read it.
Thank you for your "Middle of the Road " observation.
There's those dastardly Russian shovels again...
Well these are old mining areas, it’s more about repairing old tunnels & pipelines rather than building tunnels outright from new
Maybe if you didn't have a bullseye on your wall behind you, the missiles might miss you.... LOL
The Beneath Hill 60 movie you referenced...it is like that. Just noting it is an old tactic. Medieval siege warfare utilised this tactic (there is also a reference in Shakespeare's Henry V)...also with the use of explosives, you may recall the Battle of the Crater during the American Civil War (the union forces blew a huge crater, and then clumsily charged into it and were defeated)
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0:56, And what about the official statements of the Government of Ukraine, which say that all the missiles were shot down?.. If all the missiles of the Russian troops were shot down, then who fired at Kiev, the air defense of Ukraine, or someone else intervened in this conflict?..
It's strange, very strange, so strange that nothing is clear, because it's very strange.
Kiev, didn't say that all missiles were shot down. They openly admitted to having difficulty targeting the missiles and letting some through.
🗽🕊 China has very good military instructors from Russia!
Never underestimate an opponent...
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When is the next stream?
Sappers digging tunnels - WW1 tactics making a comeback. Also used to undermine medieval castles. Loads of miners in the Donbas.
except in ww1 they laid mines underneath the enemy. they never used them to go around the enemy.
not many hot bots to day ...maybe lacking in nob gags or Wang drawing
Germans used the Walther P38 as their battle sequence for their super soldier program expanded out into different parts of their military.
It's crazy to see that no matter what we invent or what new tactics we make it all goes back to things done in WW1. Also I heard that the guys who stormed the tunnel and took positions on the other side were ex Wagner. Honestly it makes sense to use them since they did it in the past.
What do you think about the switchblade 3 drones we Australia are acquiring deathblow hydrate mate hydrate.
Toward the first point, people seem to forget that Russia has more engineers and scientists, mathematicians graduate every year then the USA has...and unlike the western university system (of which I have worked in) they don't rely totally on 3rd worlders to fill their PhD and post doc candidature (because their education system isn't failing kids through primary and high schools in these STEM fields
So of course they will be able to respond quickly to developments on the battlefield and the "super" weapons of the west
I mean war make ones adapted if you don't you lose
Tunnels under trenches...who'da thought lol? This is an ancient tactic. Cheers.
Syrian war also became a tunnel war at later stages in some areas, due to similar reasons.
So those showels did come handy.😊😊😊
Be careful there, Willie. The fact that rockets are coming to you there suggests that you are sitting there in some "interesting" places. There's absolutely no reason for you to be among the random victims. Think about it and choose a less "interesting" place for yourself. Watching events does not mean watching a rocket flying towards you.
Ukraine has tunnels everywhere and always any developed area will have sewer systems underground as well. Plenty of aqueducts as well in areas. It seems Ukraine forces haven’t realized they need to plug off these underground tunnels to not be undermined literally. If I was in command of Russian forces the last thing I would provide is the details of such operations as this will only help Ukraine defend against future possible operations.
You have me worried willy, I hope all is well. You have disappeared. Please let us know on a short.
🗽🕊 The last phase of the war is usually the most brutal. In this phase there is the most collateral damage and casualties. Weapons systems have improved on both sides and are geared towards the mass reduction of military personnel, especially drones and bombs (FAB). Whoever runs out of men first will have to surrender, that is the reality. Weapons are unlikely to run out anytime soon as this is a huge business, especially in the West, that the citizens have to pay for (is part of the Great Reset agenda).
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No truth to that. First the war will be ending in Peace Talks. 2nd weapons aren't improving. I don't know why you can't wrap your head around this. Ukraine low to NO ammunition is the name of the game along with man power shortage.
israel rockets. told you not to wear that press badge
Imagine a disown game Dev making a FPS and naming it NAFO Copium !
Ukrainian seems to be encircled in Hlyboke village.
just a happy thought for the day, NK and PRC could be fielding troops in a limited way to bring combat experience back to their war colleges. There is potential that the UKR/RUS campaign feeds practical knowledge into our enemies while we feed the beast of war with armaments. This could be prelude to other catastrophic events in the world, with soldiers that understand more of the modern force on force interactions than our allied war machine does. We are excellent in the asymmetric stuff (both sides of the equation) but are generationally unexposed to the matched forces..
You should give more credit to the PRC and DPRK. These people will adapt when they go to war with America. Best believe it. They will be prepared. They are playing for keeps.
@@user-yw4rx6kb3r that's my concern. I'd much prefer our future opponents live with theory, not experience.
@@saltyyankee5149 you should be concerned. They ain't no sandals wearing goat herders. Let me tell you one thing, you might not believe me. These little yellow guys you fighting in the future have a fighting spirit that is of a suicide bomber but extremely disciplined.
@@saltyyankee5149exactly, the simple minded West politicians led by the genius of Biden are leading us to a disaster. Russian army is on much higher level than before the war, their experience in large scale war, number of troops well trained for this occasion etc is many many times higher than in western militaries. This conflict should have been fought in a ‘cold war’ style rather than this but Brandon knows the best 😉
Knew the Russian shovels would make a big difference
6:35 "Pushing around the gray zone" is not a "success"!!!!😂
Ahhh the nafo bots still coping in the comments i see 😂
Meanwhile majority of the comment section are Russian bots
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Why are you like this? Can't you learn or so stupid you can never not spout cope-raganda day in and out
Is the rocket attack why last night's stream stopped? LOL
No he just said it to gather more traffic as Willy has been studying how to influence people and make more traffic to his channel you must remember he is running a business and is after profit and promotion
@@Bob-g2u Yes Mr. Bot. Whatever you say.
@@Slushey51do u know ukriane is winning, if not go watch times radio ❤
@@Slushey51The stream did not stop in middle actually youtube only saves 12 hours so the rest 1 hour of the stream where willy took the camera and drove to a nearby town, that footage was cutoff
@@Peace_priority Dang. Didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
Do you think that the United States was waiting on the elections for France in the UK for the transfer of the F-16’s?
The US fights wars. Russia wins them. I'm saying that as a retired US Army Light Infantry Squad Leader.
Sure...
Except Afghanistan and against the Japs
Because War is big business for the scum, and winning wouldn't be a problem for America if it actually was fighting for something other than to make the rich richer. Plus the American military is always thousands of miles away from home which makes a difference between fighting at home or right next door. Countries never do well far from home especially when most could care less since it's not truly fighting for your survival. IKE was absolutely right about the military industry which apparently nobody listened to him.
@@zact2342 Russia won against the Japs the most recent time and US lost in Afghanistan too
@@mannyc4224still buying into the propaganda, huh?
Who loves and believes in times radio more than your parents ❤ 🇬🇧 💪
the F16s wont last long, they will be spotted returning to the base and it will get FABed
No way i wonder when this would happen . Wow
Great job, again, Willy. Significant comment at the end. We too often talk about what little experience some army or other has. NATO countries don't have that much experience in the kind of war being waged by the Russians, and we have not been doing all that well strategically in the experiences we have had lately. I hate going full-on boring pedant, but I suggest politely that for your part you maybe, kinda be a tad more economical in your use of "attritional war" as though that were a best-fit for this thing. We are the ones who seem to think attrition can be a core winning strategy. The classic strategists don't suggest that as a winning way overall. Another commenter here suggested to me that any strategic pundit could outline attritional warfare doctrine to me. I don't think they could. Iam not convinced there is such doctrine. Look again. Attrition is an activity, a way, a means, a thing to do, of course. Plenty of writers (Liddel Hart comes to mind) have railed against reliance or faith in attrition strategies (WWI, mostly), but a "doctrine" of "attrition war?" We might have an electronic warfare field manual or a special warfare manual. Do we have an attrition warfare manual. Is there a chapter aI missed on a whole warfare? A 'doctrine' of attrition war would outline where, when, how and with what -- as the winning leg. [Gosh, maybe you're right. Maybe some clutch of Victoria Nulands planned this somewhere using one of their master's theses] The Russians are busy weakening Ukrainian strength in all ways, sure, but the Russian battlefield strategy is one of aggregate tactics to . Their strategic objective is not to weaken the enemy (although of course that is an intermediate goal; in what war is it not?). Theirs is to . Gliding our strategic conversation away from 'attrition' and back toward 'battlefield maneuver' would be consequential in that it might help us realize that we will not take ground in Russia as a counter. Even our getting lost Ukrainian ground back militarily looks to be costly in the extreme. NATO (or Ukraine, whatever) is slowly losing and is likely to lose more ground, slowly perhaps. But continuing to slowly lose ground in a war of maneuver (in part because of some notion about attrition) is not a wise long-term strategy, is it? What do attritionistas think is ultimately being attrited? Ukrainian resolve? Russian resolve? American attention-span? Ukrainian economic capacity? The Ukrainian army? European resolve? All that maybe yes, but what most importantly being attrited, and we need to admit it sooner than later, is the size of Ukraine! The Russians are waging a multi-form war, a war by all means of struggle, a war that includes guerrilla actions (including inside NATO), economic actions, diplomatic actions, infrastructure and war capacity attrition, and battlefield maneuver. Our intoning 'attrition' all the time makes it seem as though if we just hang in there, the Ruskies will ultimately give up. Hear what Arthur Connan Doyle said of the Boer War. “The deepest instincts of the nation told it must fight and win, or forever abdicate its position in the world.” He was speaking of the British. We do not have a deep instinct about Ukraine. We don’t even have a shallow one. A Russian correspondent or novelist, on the other hand, could repeat Conan Doyle’s quote today with perfect apropos. By the way, we might label the Boer War one of attrition in that the British decided upon wearing the Boers out, including by capturing their families. Maneuver? The Boers could maneuver. The winners get to put the type-label on a war, and the British do not refer to the Boer War as a war of great British maneuver superiority. Maybe I’m wrong, but my bet is that the Russians will come up with something more glorious than a 'war of attrition.'
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