Navien NFC-250/200 Combi-Boiler Retrofit #8

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  • Опубліковано 6 січ 2025

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  • @danherring5676
    @danherring5676 Рік тому +14

    "A man who works with his hands is a laborer. A man who works with his hands and brain is a craftsman. A man who works with his hands, brain and heart is an artist." I had to wipe a tear when you revealed the results. Truly a work of art.

  • @The_headwaters_of_the_Yadkin
    @The_headwaters_of_the_Yadkin 10 місяців тому +1

    I found this video when I was designing my replacement system about a year ago. You do great work and inspired me to do a super-neat six zone install.

  • @GoldPlumbing
    @GoldPlumbing 4 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful. Thank you for the walkthrough. Love the personal touch with the memorial at the end. It shows you genuinely care about your customer and your work. This is the pinnacle of craftsmanship.

  • @gabrielcoutino7277
    @gabrielcoutino7277 Місяць тому +1

    Beautiful , this is not just ‘s work it’s art

  • @TraderStig
    @TraderStig Рік тому +2

    Wow! That's some nice work with the pride to back it up.

  • @kingjulian4014
    @kingjulian4014 Рік тому +1

    Cuz this the cleanest boiler job and I am a HVAC company nice work.

  • @Nova-ec4hz
    @Nova-ec4hz Рік тому +5

    Perfect installation love people being proud of their job! A thing you can do is to use only one pressure gauge and hook them all together with valves.. 👍

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 дні тому

      Or not use them at all - it seems a bit overkill for a domestic install. You can feel the pipe above the pump and determine if it's hot or not.

  • @jezzaandrews1940
    @jezzaandrews1940 Рік тому +3

    A work of art again.👍

  • @6969allgood
    @6969allgood Рік тому +1

    All round a fantastic Job , a pleasure to look at and a fantastic commentary :-)

  • @issacrobertson
    @issacrobertson Рік тому +2

    You're something else man. Beautiful.

  • @rhysdavis6525
    @rhysdavis6525 11 місяців тому +1

    Quite literally art. Hopefully one day I can be as good as you!

  • @KarlEmig
    @KarlEmig 2 місяці тому +1

    looks great. I like the iso's with the gage port. Looking for that on my next job. thanks

  • @johnzournatzis3002
    @johnzournatzis3002 Рік тому +1

    A masterpiece in my eyes.i would have done different the placement of the expansion tank in the return line to protect its lifetime.and i would have insulation over the pipes otherwise its a masterpiece of craftsmanship congratulations i add it in favourites

  • @skylinelinyt
    @skylinelinyt Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your information. Your works are amazing.

  • @Sea-Doopilot
    @Sea-Doopilot Місяць тому +1

    I have a 30x50' shop with a 6-circuit system. I just built it and only have the slab components installed, and the manifold built and pressurized. I don't have gas to the property, So, my options are propane (I will bury a tank) or electric. I also love Navien but wondered if their electric boiler would work as well as the gas? What direction would you go? It's in southern Missouri so it's not super cold there. Thanks for any help, James and great work on this one. The "for Ian" was a class act! Great work!
    -Brian

  • @mitchmass10
    @mitchmass10 Рік тому

    Absolutely amazing work

  • @Alejandrogonzalez-r3i
    @Alejandrogonzalez-r3i 7 місяців тому +2

    Got dam!
    A bit of passion!!!!

  • @timstriff9870
    @timstriff9870 Рік тому

    Does anyone else think he sounds like Dan Aykroid ? Sweet work indeed !

  • @Deep_Divers
    @Deep_Divers Рік тому +1

    Great videos! The only question I have is about the use of dielectric unions. Typically copper pipe is bonded to the electrical system. With dielectric unions installed at the boiler won't that break the continuity of the bond, leaving a large portion of the copper unbonded? When filters are installed I usually see a jumper to maintain that continuity or another bond established elsewhere. So, should a jumper be installed around the boiler to maintain the bond?

  • @xcmskim4
    @xcmskim4 Рік тому +2

    James, it seems that you've been watching Mikey Pipes. He agrees that the NFC (fire tube models) are robust and leak free.
    Water tube heat exchangers in general are problematic; they cannot be sealed 100% due to high temperature and high pressure operation.
    I personally believe Navien water tube heat exchanger have a design defect. They are an excellent company and I too really like their products.
    As Mikey Pipes would say, the final install came out TITS! Literally, your installs are excellent.

  • @sleektoneofficial
    @sleektoneofficial 5 днів тому

    Very nice install

  • @aihf3063
    @aihf3063 11 місяців тому

    A work of beauty. You must the owner of the company. Your workmanship is amazing. Can I ask you a question. Where do you get your stickers

  • @timp.9582
    @timp.9582 5 місяців тому

    Great video, clean handsome work.

  • @pitaeata8493
    @pitaeata8493 Рік тому +1

    great install. I'm surprised you're allowed to use loomex in exposed area; maybe upgrade to bx (armoured cable) next install.

  • @keyzielock9970
    @keyzielock9970 Рік тому +1

    Only detail I didn't like was the gas shut off that didn't look like it was full port. Still much better than CSST. Everything else is on point 👌

  • @GlenS123
    @GlenS123 Рік тому +1

    Another awesome install. Brass unions far superior over dialectric unions, the gaskets is not serviceable or replaceable. They also tend to leak overtime, yet cost the same. Just my 2 cents...

  • @jorgegaleano6573
    @jorgegaleano6573 8 місяців тому

    Amazing passion sr.

  • @matthewpingitore
    @matthewpingitore 10 місяців тому +1

    Great job !!

  • @ChuckKarl525
    @ChuckKarl525 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic work! Please compare the NFC vs the NCB. I have a new NCB hanging in my basement and currently soldering pipes. Is the NCB a lesser boiler in terms of longevity or quality? Thank you for you videos, you are truly an artist.

    • @canuckmechanical6490
      @canuckmechanical6490  Рік тому +1

      The NCB is a water tube boiler vs a NFC which is a fire tube boiler ….the water tube has more restrictive passages in the heat exchanger which in no ideal in old or dirty systems ….put simply firetubes are superior

    • @ChuckKarl525
      @ChuckKarl525 Рік тому +1

      @Canuck Mechanical thank you for the education. I am upgrading from oil but will be installing a new staple up system plus existing fintube with a separate circulator. I will be flushing my existing system before connecting to the new boiler. Hopefully, this is the correct approach for this installation.

  • @iHecToor_
    @iHecToor_ Рік тому +1

    I have a quick question, how or where do connect a nest thermostat
    😅

    • @canuckmechanical6490
      @canuckmechanical6490  Рік тому

      U can put them on each zone but a little expensive for doing that for zoning

  • @PJ-vp4xd
    @PJ-vp4xd Рік тому

    fantastic design and execution... who makes the isolator flange with port for the pressure gauge? The ones I can find only have purge ports

  • @josephthorne848
    @josephthorne848 Рік тому

    For that Nav combi, if there was a domestic hot recirc line, what pump should you use? Would a grundfos comfort pump work?

  • @AndrewNelson-w4o
    @AndrewNelson-w4o Рік тому

    Each of your 8 retrofit videos has been incredible. Wish you were in Washington State in the U.S. so I could hire you. My 30 year old cast iron oil burning boiler needs to be replaced, but I have propane available. Is there any reason not to replace my oil boiler and indirect domestic hot water heater with an NFC combination unit?

    • @canuckmechanical6490
      @canuckmechanical6490  Рік тому

      Nope …as long as you got good water chemistry ….on propane is fine :)

    • @AndrewNelson-w4o
      @AndrewNelson-w4o Рік тому

      @@canuckmechanical6490 Thanks. Propane is about $1.40 per gallon cheaper than heating oil in my area. The NFC combi unit install quote I have is about $10,000 more than a new oil boiler install. Can I make up the difference with the higher efficiency of the NFC combi unit and cheaper propane cost?

  • @darrenthibault7396
    @darrenthibault7396 Рік тому

    Wondering if the internal pump comes on when any of the other 7 pumps comes on

    • @canuckmechanical6490
      @canuckmechanical6490  Рік тому

      Yes it comes on when there is a call for heat from the taco switching relay

  • @hituw2x4
    @hituw2x4 Рік тому

    Beautiful job! What are those pipe clamps you're using, not the split rings?

  • @abacojack13
    @abacojack13 11 місяців тому

    what size copper was used in this build, for the manifolds and to supply each pump?

  • @raganriley
    @raganriley Рік тому

    When all the zone two pumps are closed how does the boiler know to not keep running the primary loop? How does the boiler and boiler pump know when to run?

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 дні тому

      The boiler is controlled by the thermostats at each zone. On your living room wall for example.

  • @karimkalache712
    @karimkalache712 Рік тому

    Hi, i jave a question. Do you raye these units for reliability? Reason i ask is that i had this same unit installed in my house and less than 9 months later have two issues with it.
    The first is a 351-00 error code that the company thay installed it always tries to brush aside when i bring it up.
    The second more annoying pressing issue is a LOUD and frequent whining noise coming from thr bottom left of the unit. This i was told is a inducer motor and they have ordered it to he replaced under warranty.
    But i dont know why/hiw something fails so quick on a unit that is supposed to be suitable for commercial purposes.
    Know im just not sure about the quality of the brand and product as a whole, was hoping to get 20+ years out of this boiler. I honestly doubt that will be the case.
    See my video for a clip of the noise it is currently making.

  • @TechchnologyGuru
    @TechchnologyGuru Місяць тому

    What model is the circulator flange with shutoff and ports?

  • @ComfortTechMT
    @ComfortTechMT 10 місяців тому

    Why did you choose to use circulator pumps instead of zone valves?

    • @canuckmechanical6490
      @canuckmechanical6490  10 місяців тому +1

      If one pump zone fails then that zone has no heat but if you use zone valves and single secondary circulator and that fails then all zones have no heat

  • @zbess1
    @zbess1 Рік тому +1

    Which thermostat do you suggest with the Navien NFC 200h?

  • @tylero8595
    @tylero8595 Рік тому

    Looks great. Why don't you use propress? It has made our jobs quick and clean every time. Looks great though. Are you insulating?

    • @canuckmechanical6490
      @canuckmechanical6490  Рік тому +6

      Cuase one mistake I have to start over …with propress I can’t fix and undo a joint soldering however is very user friendly and I can alternate it ….plus I don’t want all my joints to depend on a o-ring …..dont get me wrong pro press has great benefits just not my cup or tea for hydronics ….and lastly I find things like propress, pex and tracpipe, make jobs easier and faster jobs but leads to an overall lack of craftsman ship skills and poor quality of work for younger generations …just my thoughts

    • @tylero8595
      @tylero8595 Рік тому

      @@canuckmechanical6490 Makes sense. I saw some of your other vids. You used the Taco control module on this job. On your others you used Tekmar. Why did you switch? I have only used Tekmar. Let me know. Cheers.

    • @canuckmechanical6490
      @canuckmechanical6490  Рік тому

      @@tylero8595 if you don’t try different brands u will never know if there is anything better out there :)

  • @HPL5P
    @HPL5P Рік тому +1

    Anyone in Edmonton Alberta watching that does high quality installs like this?

    • @RobertKiss-xc1jv
      @RobertKiss-xc1jv Рік тому

      E R plumbing and heating in Calgary does. For a boiler install they might be willing to go to Edmonton sine its not that far.

    • @svenhodaka9145
      @svenhodaka9145 Рік тому

      @@RobertKiss-xc1jvThanks, I’m in the Calgary area, I’ll check them out.👍

  • @scottwidrick1835
    @scottwidrick1835 Рік тому

    quality!!

  • @ms82xp
    @ms82xp Рік тому

    Nice clean install. Btw, Taco is pronounced TAY-koh, not TAH-koh.. 😉

  • @karimkalache712
    @karimkalache712 Рік тому

    I thought the unit would be 'overkill' for my 2200 sq ft home

  • @n121pp67
    @n121pp67 Рік тому +1

    The leaves are quite sharp! Did you say it’s made of sheet metal? 🙄 slicing hazard! Home owner will rip that maple leaf out in 2 minutes after the first cut.

  • @braideng8069
    @braideng8069 Рік тому +1

    Get a different kind of condensate neutralizer

  • @commonsense9809
    @commonsense9809 8 місяців тому

    Going crazy with oversized zone pumps, not necessary for overly expensive and maintenance required systems. Wiping customers like there’s no end. I work on sky scrapers in NYC and a single pump does over 20 stories and over 1000 zones control valves. Poor customers don’t know any better, this is the problem when end users needs a heating system and they rely on a local plumbing company. Thumbs down 👎

    • @sudeshramdhanie6216
      @sudeshramdhanie6216 2 місяці тому

      Obviously you know NOTHING about pride in workmanship, this is not a 20 story building.

  • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
    @OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 дні тому

    Beautiful job. Looks EXPENSIVE though.