Four Horrifying Shipwrecks You Probably Haven’t Heard Of
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- Some shipwrecks, like Titanic, go down in history and legend while others are completely forgotten. Today we’ll explore the fascinating and tragic tales of four doomed ships; Cataraqui, Centaur, Montevideo Maru and the Principe de Asturias.
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This is the best part about the ship historian community in my opinion - resurrecting and preserving the memory of these forgotten stories.
I agree
agreed
Pederarchy was not a barque, she was a full rigged ship, based on the photos you present. A barque has a fore and aft rigged mizzen, no square sa’ls.
I find myself drawn to more history stories & he’s starting to become my favorite. & it started with Ocean Gate.
i would also agree with that.
It’s tragic what happened to the Montevideo Maru. I’ve heard plenty of stories about American submarines struggling throughout the pacific, mainly due to incredibly faulty torpedoes. Could you imagine the feeling of glee upon learning that your torpedoes actually managed to sink something instead of missing or running a circle and hitting you, only to be told that you’ve sunk a prisoner transport vessel with hundreds of your comrades on board?
American and allied submarines sank countless Japanese Hell ships and German Prison ships, granted it's hard to tell the ship were transporting retreating troops or PoW/refugees...
There were also cases of both sides sunk protected Hospital ships and Red Cross Relief ship...
War is brutal.
If you’re feeling ‘glee’ then probably karma.
@@--enyo-- it’s war mate, your consciousness will feel happy upon the sinking of an enemy vessel, as you no longer view those aboard as your equal.
@@--enyo-- I think that any crew aboard any USN vessel that lost a comrade at Pearl Harbor had earned the right to celebrate the sinking of any Japanese ship. It’s appropriate for you and I to view this as a sad tragedy, but those who were living this nightmare are allowed to have their own feelings.
It was now found in Philippines 😊🎉
The Centaur and Montevideo Maru are some of the dirtier, horrible, and less glamorous aspects of war that desire mention so as not to be forgotten, and I'm glad you discussed them so respectfully.
Same with the Wilhelm Gustloff
@@fabulouschild2005not many people are phased that 9000 death camp operators were drowned.
@@pikachoo1 most of them were actually civilians
@@pikachoo1Where the h... did you get that number, or are you just assuming that all Germans at that time were working the death camps? Most were ordinary civilians trying to escape the Russian army. A lot were ordinary wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine wounded being evacuated out, along with a contingent of Luftwaffe blitzmädels as they were called. There were some SS troops on board, but mostly also wounded from frontline units, and a few party hacks who did not want to share the destiny of the people they left to the mercy of the Russians and so abandoned them and forced/cheated their way on board. And quite a lot of the civilian casualties were innocent children who knew only that something bad was happening and that they were going away from it, not even old enough to know what war was or what soldiers from their country had done to others.
9000 death camp operators??? Forgive me for saying so since I don't know you, but GET LOST! You obviously don't know shit about what happened there how ever nice and likeable you may be in other respects.
@philtkaswahl2124 The Centaur was a deliberate and inexcusable war crime. The Montevideo Maru could have been one if it wasn't for the fact that she was listed as a troop transport. Troop transports were a ligitimate target since they carried troops and weapons. So, in this case, the skipper of the US sub was performing what he thought to be a regular sinking of a regular enemy target, not knowing that she was carrying allied soldiers as POW's.
There was another incident in the atlantic where a German U-boat sank a British troop transport. He too did a regular sinking of a regular enemy target, only to discover who were really on board. Mostly Italian POW's and civilian British evacuees. He did the honorable thing and summoned other U-boats to save the people from that transport and bring them to safety. He even broadcast in plain language, in English, what he was doing and why, so that he could carry on with the rescue of civilians and POW's. That thing turned into a war crime comitted by the Americans because they had patrol aircraft in the area that despite the message from the U-boat attacked the rescuers and killed both rescued and rescuers in the proces. The German rescuers even had the good grace and honor to not fire back at the aircraft because that would have been a violation of their role as rescuers at the time. They simply took the hits and carried on with the rescue of the victims. You will be hard pressed to find examples of wartime incidents with a more honorable behavior than this despite being on a not so honorable side in the war. There is a movie made about this incident which finally pays a long overdue tribute to the bravory and honor of the U-boat crews who took part in this rescue , although I don't remember the title of it.
Those were all just terrible tragedies. Can you imagine being asleep at 4am when the ship you're in gets can opened front to back and is underwater in 5 minutes?!! Wow. These people deserve to be remembered. Great job with these historic losses.
Titanic. But they had more time
Shocking amount of casualties in these shipwrecks!
Another one largely forgotten - HMS Birkenhead. A British troop ship carrying soldiers families as well as 500 troops from England to South Africa, ran aground February 1852. The wreck is considered the origin of the 'Women and children first' policy in ship wrecks, troops stood on deck as the ship went down - the origin of another expression 'Birkenhead drill' - standing fast in the face of approaching doom. The ship wreck is commemorated in several places such as the suburb of 'Birkenhead Point' in Sydney, Australia.
There was a poem written called "The Birkenhead Drill" but I forget the author. Tennyson? Kipling? I'll have to look that one up.
Maritime Horrors has a good video on her sinking.
HMS Birkenhead is absolutely not largely forgotten. It's one of the most famous shipwrecks of all time.
Kipling
@@ysonesse829 Thanks!
It's truly horrible that ships and people could just cease to be, and no one remembering their loss. Horror Stories indeed.
Thank you, Mike for getting these disasters stories out. TTFN
No idea how I found your channel, but it's fantastic ❤
I still am about 99% ignorant about ships, but I'm enthralled by the detailed history and your dapper presentation.
Keep doing whatcha doing, and love from Texas!
Thanks for watching :)
That is exactly how/why I love this channel too! And I don't know of a better way to describe the young man other than dapper and just a pleasure to listen to, watch and learn from the great videos! Have a wonderful day! 🍻🌎❤️🌮🚢
UA-cam Is really the bee's knees. I'd reccomend Maritime Horrors as well if you like this type of thing. He is also excellent and a must-watch for me every time he uploads.
For me it was the empress of Ireland video. Randomly popped up, now here I am. Every now and then the algorithm gets it right
Same here
Talassophobia
I don't like the ocean
It's an interesting channel 🛥
What the Japanese did to the AHS Centaur is unforgivable and outright dishonorable of the most terrible sort, but it also makes them as cowards to target a defenseless hospital ship.
Such a pass is given to the Japanese & Soviet Union for WW2 war crimes. One would think Germany was the only criminal.
@@sleepyhollow783 Morton and the USS Wahoo get a pass, too
apparently they believed that medics and hospital ships were valuable targets, as less medics/hospital ships = less enemy soldiers. they even rewarded soldiers for specifically shooting medics, so it's unsurprising that medics in the pacific took off their medical markings in combat
2 bombs weren't enough. They should have sunk the entire Japanese navy with nukes too just to prove a point.
Japanese philosophy towards war and the treatment of your enemies at the time had barely changed since before the Meiji restoration. The only real difference was how it was weaponised for modern times, politics, and warfare. People tend to claim that the IJN was the only truly honourable branch of the Japanese armed forces, but there are countless horror stories of brutality and inhumane actions, particularly in regard to submarine warfare in the Dutch East Indies. Those that went down to a torpedo arguably were lucky.
In this day and age of convenience, we forget just how treacherous it was to travel to any destination by sailing ship. It good that you have kept the memories of these few tragic losses of ships and lives alive. RIP to all those who perished.
We may have tamed the ocean in a sense, but she still will always remind us that she remains queen of the watery graves of those who doubt her broader grasp
@@jackthorton10 this is true. I would say it's likely more tonnage of shipping is lost now than ever.
Can’t wait for you to tell about these unknown disasters. All deserve to be known, especially those they led to the deaths of many.
It's shocking if you look up list of ships sunk in WWII especially "List of ships sunk by submarines by death tolls exceeding 150" on Wikipedia, many of which are evacuation ships and prison ships... Some are even protected Hospital ships (like mentioned in the video) and protected Red Cross Relief ship (e.g. Awa Maru)...
I served on many ships . but my early mistakes sailing taught me how deadly the sea could be...
Im glad your still around.
Thank you Sir. Well done videos 🎉
Rest in peace bro! ❤️
When did you perish mate?
@@wesleypresley1000He mentioned in another post three months ago that he died a painful and dreadful death about six months back in Indonesia.
Well done Mike. Such tragedies as these deserve to be remembered. A fitting way to honor those who perished. RIP until the day when the sea shall give up her dead.
Thank you sir.
Hey look. It's my friend, Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs
I'm glad you included the Cataraqui.. Back in 2002 I remember reading a memorial on King Island's 'British Admiral' Beach with information about the wreck. As far as I remember reading, it didn't take 5 weeks for the storm to die down, but rather the survivors had to wait there for the next boat to pass close enough to the island to find them.
Your footage and pictures really bring these stories to life in an amazing way. I grew up in Michigan in Detroit by the river. To this day "freighter watching " is still a normal thing to do.⚓️⛵️💙
Honestly I think the Arctic should have an honorable mention
It may not have the high casualties rate compared to some of the other, but I feel like the way a lot of the crew abandoned the ship to leave the passengers to die is what makes the Arctic particularly tragic
banger vid, you make amazing content dude, keep up the good work
Your my favorite maritime historian
I've never heard of any of these ships and tragedies before. Thank you for the 3am in Ireland history lesson :)
Well done Mike . These were all horrific shipwrecks . This is a wonderful channel and I am so very proud of you Mike . 👏
I really appreciate the focus on Australian ships in this video, it's an aspect often overlooked of the scene.
I think a video on modern sailing ships could be great! Looking at what happened to them after the Age of Sail. My thought on this is inspired by the sailing ship in this video.
Mike, I don't know if you'll even notice this, but curiousity means I'll ask anyway.
I only came across your channel maybe two months ago, and being impressed, I've watched quite a few of your uploads.
So, if you don't mind me asking, how did you develop an interest in maritime history?
Did you study this, or a related subject at university?
Or are you, with respect, an amateur historian, albeit an extremely knowledgeable one?
I only ask because many online historians are older, and might have had a previous career that relates to their chosen subject matter.
You are clearly extremely knowledgeable*, and your videos seem to be impeccably researched, in addition to being interesting and entertaining.
The result is that even though maritime history isn't something that I've had more than a passing interest in, I've certainly enjoyed learning about the subject in recent weeks.
*Even though I know next to nothing about the subject, it'd be apparent if you weren't as knowledgeable as you appear - UA-cam commenters take no prisoners.
There are a number of supposedly 'factual' or 'educational' channels on UA-cam that regularly upload videos littered with mistakes, and these are quickly seized upon by the ever watchful viewers.
I can't say that I've seen anyone in your comments taking issue with your content, which speaks volumes about the quality of your presentations.
Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment! I have a background in Industrial Design which itself was born of a deep interest in machines and how they, and good design, work. The maritime interest came from both of my parents for different reasons; mum who exposed me to ‘A Night to Remember’ quite young and dad who came out to Australia on an ocean liner in 1959 and who has himself had a lifelong love of ships! :) I wouldn’t describe myself as an historian until I achieved the relevant qualifications but I am a enthusiastic enthusiast. Mistakes do slip through the cracks unfortunately but I try my best to stay on top of them and correct them in comments or descriptions.
Thanks so much for watching!
I love learning about unknown, yet important, events like this. Thanks for sharing!
This is why I like your channel and the Part-Time Explorer, your channels memorialize the forgotten.
Your videos always keep us afloat! From a grateful lighthouse crew still working on the only manual light still in use!
may i suggest an episode about Jutlandia? she was a hospital ship during the korean war. she had a red stripe along the hull instead of the normal green one, done so to make it obvious that she was civilian and not military.
25 hospital ships were sunk during WWII, and around 9,000 lives lost. The worst loss of life was the Soviet hospital ship Armenia, sunk on 7 November 1941, with more than 5,000 lives lost. Ships from all sides were lost, mainly from aerial attacks and mines, but some from submarines.
The allied forces were aware that some ships were carrying prisoners of war, but decided to ignore the possibility and sink all enemy ships they could. Somewhere around 12,000 allied prisoners of war were killed by allied subs and aircraft. Somewhere around 4,000-5,000 German and Italian POWs were also killed by German U-boats. One advantage of fighting to the death is that few Japanese POWs, if any, were killed by their own submarines.
Love this, thank you! I knew about Montevideo Maru - and vaguely about the Principe de Asturias (saw the recovered and BADLY damaged statue they recovered from her wrecksite)... but the other 2, no. I had no idea the Principe de Asturias had such a high death toll! The statue display merely said "high loss of life". She was a truly beautiful ship. Again, thank you!
Another amazing video as always! Very sad detail about the Australian survivors singing hymns in the water to honor the deceased.
I only recently found your channel, but I love how you talk, narrate and structure these videos. I wasn't into ships, but your content has me pinned to the screen. Very well done!!
Perfect timing on the Left Coast. Just finished dinner. Thank you.
My absolute favorite channel its not only entertaining but also a history lesson
Honestly, if there is any justice there be a special hell for those who left people trapped to drown in a ship and who deliberately and knowingly targeted a hospital ship
i love knowing you are in australia probably posting this at about 10-11am and for me its 10pm so it's great to watch before bed! i was getting bored too. i already know before watching this that the quality of this video is great.
Thank you. I look forward to all your videos. Well done.
Thank you Mike for this amazing documentary. Beautifully edited as always but most of all, thank you for your research about these forgotten tragedies thus honouring the memories of the countless victims ❤️
MV Wilhelm Gustloff was a German military transport ship which was sunk on 30 January 1945 by Soviet submarine S-13. 9,400 people died, making it the largest loss of life in a single ship sinking in history.
Brilliantly informative video. Just one minor correction for historical accuracy. The Japanese submarine suspected was not the i-777, but the i-177.
Always enjoy the videos Mike !!
Came at the perfect moment. I can’t sleep. Something to watch, thanks Mike!
Thank you for this video Mike - you've presented these stories in such a respectful way as always. Keep up the great work! ❤
Weird idea but your voice is so good that you could do analysis videos of like "paranormal" videos, its so soothing and you sound like you could do a "creepy" voice
I don't really have the words to articulate it, but I've been on an Old Boat kick recently and probably the most profound thing about these stories is the realisation of just how brutal life was even 100 years ago.
In the case of these migrants, they live in a dark torment for several months. Then, unprompted, one of the countless crashes capsizes the ship or grounds it on a reef or whatever and now it's time to drown in total darkness. It's not just the lack of agency or closure, but the mundanity of it.
I don't know if the number legit, but I saw a self-published direct-to-DVD documentary that claimed that Australia's coastline has around 9000 shipwrecks. That speaks to the idea that most shipwrecks are small and likely to be unrecorded.
Obviously as a white bloke it's easy to contextualise this as 'history' - as a problem that was solved by better ships and radio and meteorology etc. But of course there are still asylum seekers fleeing conflict or persecution in boats far less impressive than any ship shown here. I have never been a 'stop the boats' supporter, but maritime history really does illustrate just how dangerous the journey actually is and it becomes easy to imagine just how many boats would just simply vanish. It really drives home how cruel of a policy it is to simply force the ships to turn around.
To the contrary, it drives home how cruel of a policy it is to welcome anyone who makes it. That tempts people to make a journey they're ill-fitted to make. Turning them away is 'cruel' to the people on the tub getting turned around, but it's a kindness to the other people who get discouraged and don't die.
Also, and it's really important to note this, you're not paying attention to what those people do once they arrive in Europe, America, or Australia.
Well done 👏 Mike, yet again! So fascinating, learning about all of these wrecks.
Outstanding maritime history as usual. You’re the best and thanks!!
Yeah, you are back for another video. I truly love all the information and very interesting way you present those facts. I keep checking most days to see what is new! Were you ever a professor, because your presentation is wonderful?
I find it almost unbelievable that anyone ever got onto a ship at all. I know they did because some members of my family came by ship from England to the colonies(now the USA) in the 1660’s. Even though I am extremely glad and grateful--“I STILL THINK THEY WERE NUTS”!
Every time I see a new video out from Oceanliner Designs it's a breath fresh air.
Reporting for duty captain 🫡 happy to see an upload as always Mr Brady
Officer on the deck! 😎
I would never have known about these without this video. Thank you, for bringing this history to light. May those lost be remembered.
The only surviving nurse saw her best friend jump off the ship and hit on the back of her head on the way down. She was the one jumping from the front bit in one of the coloured picture (sourced from the Australian was memorial excursion)
You deserve a series on history channel broski and I'm still waiting on the Victorian vest merch
Hey Mr. Brady I love your work! You’re definitely one of my and my husband’s favorite channels. My husband had a grand uncle lost on the USS Arizona and hubs grandfather survived the attack with multiple wounds. If you would be interested in doing a video my husband would be willing to discuss it with you and tell you the story of his papaw if you were interested. Don’t hesitate to ask because we’d love to assist you with a video on Pearl Harbor. My husband was adopted by his grandparents and his grandpa told him stories of his time in the navy 1939-1992 and we’re willing to talk and tell you everything he knows! Just let us know!
I never thought I'd like a channel about Ocean liners and ship design. But I absolutely love it. It's awaken a new interest for me. I was lucky enough to see the notorious anchored at yamba on the weekend.
Well done Mike! Excellent job as always!!!
I love your channel so much. I usually watch your videos at least 5 times each. The ones I really like I watch many more than 5 times. Thank you for all you do!!!!!
I discovered your channel recently again and I am impressed. Your information and axtual pictures plus wreck videos are fantastic Thank you.
Thank you for bringing these story's to the masses again, the P.O.W ship was heartbreaking.
Keep up the good work .
From the Q-Ship trust
you make good documentaries mate, and I'm very sure we all enjoy the variety and detail of the content
Hi Mike, always look forward to your excellent videos 👍👏😊❤️🇺🇸
I always enjoy your videos! Thank you!
This is one of the best channels on YT !
Everything is top notch 👏🏽👏🏽
Another Great Video Mike! Loved you and your teams work in the Newest Bright Sun Films video!
Mike you did it again awesome subject can't thank you enough looking forward to the next one
Amazing video!! Thank you for sharing 👍🏼
Loving the new souls on board graphic, very helpful.
Another excellent, well-researched video. Well done.
I love your videos.. Well done.. Can you please do a video on the Valencia? A steamer that wrecked on the West Coast of Vancouver Island it’s an amazing story and serves as the catalyst of the a life saving trail known as the West Coast Trail.
Your comment about Principe de Asturias reminded me of the SS San Juan. An American coastal liner which operated between Los Angeles and San Francisco. The ship was 47 years old and made of poorly maintained wrought iron. She collided with an oil tanker owned by the Standard Oil Company of California, called the SS SCT Dodd. San Juan sank in less than 3 minutes killing 77 people with only 42 survivors. San Juan was built in 1882 and was almost exactly like she was the day the ship was constructed, when she sank on August 29, 1929.
Always a amazement, each of your videos. Narration and everything. Thx from France.
Brutal history. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for an amazing insight into these tragedies.
There is something truly evil about torpedoing a HOSPITAL SHIP
Meant to care for the wounded and keep them safely to land
That is so sad and disheartening
This was rough to watch, but worth it. Thank you.
Great stuff as always man, thank you!
One of my great great grandparents died on the cataraqi
Great content as usual. Thanks!
I love these old stories, and you tell them well🙂🌺
I always particularly enjoy your videos about Australian ships. Our nation’s history is so heavily a naval one, and I never knew about any of these tragedies until your coverage. May God rest the many souls of those lost at sea.
Man, the experience of the people on the first one particularly must have been truly horrifying!
Thanks indeed for your always excellent efforts, good Sir.
Another good video. Always make time to watch these videos, as you seem to find unusual and interesting material that isn;t necessarily 'mainstream' and its all the more interesting for it.
Your narration is on point. Thank you.
Yess new content thank you Mr. Brady I love you and historic travels with Mark you guys are legends. 🙏
Rest in Peace prayers to those lost at sea and in these wrecks. Thank you, Mike for another find report.
Excellent presentation, keep up the great work.
I could watch your videos ALL DAY
This video was great. Sad, but great. I watch alot of ship wreck content and these were all new to me😊
accounts and tales from survivors. and literally no one remembers these tragedies.... It's a cruel world you know. Also, i'm a Brazilian, thanks for mentioning the príncipe de astúrias! This loss is actually Very well known here. I live in são paulo, and i went to ilhabela in january. I actually boarded a small boat that took me to the sinking site. It was pretty rocky really. But the place was actually beautiful.
You're an amazing story teller ❤
Great channel thanks mate! 👍
While I'm of the idea that no truly tragic, heroic, or horrifying act can be truly erased in the fabric of time. It's beautiful to hear the stories of these lost souls. R.I.P and know that your stories are never truly gone.
Your voice was made for storytelling! Love this channel!
I love your videos keep up the awesome work :)
Fascinating. I’ve been curious about shipwrecks ever since I read Michael Palin’s Erebus
it's refreshing to hear about sea disasters that don't involve Stockton rush.
Fascinating as usual! Thank you! 👍🏽❤️🇦🇺
Great work Mike!
Thank you for sharing these stories. People get their ideas of shipwrecks from the Titanic, but it was an extremely abnormal one. Far more often it was huge losses of life, only male survivors (if any), and fading into obscurity. Have you made a video about why men were more likely to survive and why the “women and children first” idea is largely a myth? (Also, as seen in this video, largely impractical and sometimes impossible.)
As someone who has known about the centaur for a good while now, im happy to see a big channel like you covering it :D
Thanks Mike, awesome hearing an Aussie accent mate. Great content !!!!! Thanks for the work you've put Into your videos - top quality 👌
Love your videos!