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Everytime I think of a Ocean Liner going missing, I always think of the fictional Italian Ocean liner Antonia Graza (based on the Andrea Doria) from the movie Ghost Ship. The thought of a liner crossing the North Atlantic with over a thousand people on board disappearing without a trace then being found floating derelict by a salvage team in the Mediterranean decades later without any sign of what happened is haunting
It's stunning how Hans Hedtoft is similar to Titanic. Both were considered as very safe, encountered ice berg on maiden voyage, collided with it ripping rivets and opening too many watertight compartments and sank before any help could arrive. She definitely needs more recognition.
SS Waratah is always mentioned, but poor SS Koombana of March 1912 rarely ever rates a mention. One of great remaining mysteries on the West Australian coast. She was lost in a cyclone somewhere between Port Headland and Broome with 150 lives gone, just a month before Titanic went down. A mixed cargo an passenger vessel on the Fremantle to Wyndham run, she was only 4 years old at the time of her loss and state of the art, carrying her passengers in great luxury.
A shame, really. More people would likely be aware of the Koombana's loss, had it sunk in just about any other month of any other year. Talk about bad timing, especially since it's just as much of a tragedy as any other mentioned here.
Waratah was actually found in 2009 by Spanish divers but they chose not disclose its location and she lies of the African coast how do I know this because my grandfather was part of the diving team (African coast guard) and it lies very deep and dangerous to get two
For those who have served at sea, we have all experienced huge waves, that literally gave us that sinking feeling. One minute you can see the sky, the next; all that can be seen is a wall of water. During storms, ships steer into the wind and attack the waves head on - it’s the waves hitting port or starboard that are really dangerous, causing roll over.
@@EYEWITNESS-NEWS I think he means the sinking feeling in your stomach when your falling. If the waves are big enough and ships are long enough some parts of the ship can kinda free fall when cresting the waves.
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SS Waratah is my favorite 'mystical disapperence ship'. She's so shrouded in mystery and still we don't know what happend to her. My personal theory is that her poor stability was the main culprit. I think she was hit by a rouge wave that came out of nowhere and she capsized and sank within minutes. Mike, I am happy you do this videos and keep on doing these. Amazing work you do.
There's just not much of a mystery about the Waratah. She went down in a storm. We may not know the exact spot, or whether there was a rogue wave in addition to the hurricane itself, or whether she'd have sunk even if she weren't top heavy, but none of that changes that we know pretty much what happened. It's an extremely unmysterious mystery. Disappearing without a trace was all too common in the pre-radio days.
My late grandfather was working at Durban docks after his retirement and observed that when the Ss Waratah was docked so many rats were running off the ship. Rats running off of a ship is a bad sign that all was not well with the ship.
Plenty of news articles about specific ships feel the need to shoehorn in the _Titanic_ despite little connection or similarities with her. The _Hans Hedtoft_ would have been a perfectly acceptable time to bring up the _Titanic,_ but no. Mike Brady does not give into Titanicization and instead treats the _Hans Hedtoft_ as her own ship and not something to compare with the _Titanic._ I think that alone says a lot about the quality of his writing style and what he values.
In the summer of 2022 during Oceangate's Titanic expedition, there was an unknown object discovered near the wreck of the Titanic. This caused great excitement and there began a discussion as to what ship it might have been. The Noronic was one of the ships mentioned. Turns out it was not a ship at all, it was a pile of rocks.
Yeah that feels like bad juju right there! You're dissing the very ocean you're sailing on, wouldn't be surprised some sailors see that as quite the omen!
Mike, thank you again for another great video. Each of these stories gives me chills, but thank you for keeping the stories and the memory of the passengers and crew alive.
Glad to see SS Waratah got mentioned - I first heard about the ship when I saw a memorial to it in a church in my uni town, and the whole case has interested me ever since. Same with that of the Hedtoft, as it's such a shame that all that historical data went with her and the crew.
It's almost more chilling to hear contemporary accounts by highly skilled and experienced men that identified issues in advance of ship disasters. In a way, we always have experts who can identify issues in a situation where the majority see no (or relatively little) risk and we tend to dismiss them, but it makes one pause and think whenever we see evidence of a potential aversion of tragedy had those people's analyses been considered.
I had actually heard of the Hans Hedtoft! As someone who loves paper trails and research, I found it a shame then, and find it a shame now. So much knowledge is lost when a person dies, but that person can, at least, take precautions to prevent it ALL being lost by writing things down and spreading them. But when you lose the writings... there's no recovery from that. It's a shame! What an awful experience. Could you imagine being on one of those? Knowing it's over? I don't think I could handle it.
Indeed, ship loss continues today. Some vanishings (perhaps many) are modern piracy: Turn off the transponder, change the paint scheme, add a new name, forge some papers. Presto! Ship and cargo continue and a large insurance claim is filed. However, genuine sinkings do occur. I listened to one. In the early 70's, I was in the USN aboard a fleet ballistic missile submarine in the Pacific. A typhoon intersected our patrol route for a few days. The strong weather reached unexpected depths, but we had little concern. On sonar we heard other vessels laboring in the storm. Engines raced when screws broke water, then bogged to a near stall when the propeller plunged deep. A couple of days after we first recognized a particular sonar contact, it broke up and sank. The sounds of rending metal and collapsing tanks is quite distinct. The event was over quickly. The storm raged on. I've always wondered about that ship's identity and the human loss.
It would be interesting to see a video about how was life for paying passengers on these cargo ships from Cunard, White Star or any other shipping company at the time.
Been obsessed with Naronic's disappearance ever since I was a kid, when I found a website called "What Happened to the Naronic?" I poured over that site so much as a kid, though I believe it's since been taken down. Personally, I think, even if none of the bottles found claiming to be from the ship are genuine, they all still tell *a version* of the truth, that being that the ship went down in poor weather. Unfortunately, without it having the notoriety as some of the big passenger liners like Waratah, I don't think there'll ever be a chance to truly go out and find it.
Another ship disappearance you might find interesting is that of the Marine Sulfur Queen, a WW2 vintage tanker adapted to carry cargoes of molten sulfur. She disappeared in, I believe, the Gulf of Mexico and no trace of her has ever been found except, if I remember correctly, part of a name board or other kind of wood plaque showing signs of fire damage.
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Apropos the Waratah, a Cape Mounted Rifleman, Edward Conquer (who become a Colonel in the S.A.Air Force), had been heliographing on the right bank of the Xora River and noted thro' his telescope a large ship approaching, making heavy going. Her shape and colour matched that of the Waratah exactly, yet he had not known of the ship's existence and he let a comrade also see the vessel through the eyepiece. He saw her roll to starboard and a following wave came over her and he saw no more, also telling Adshead, his comrade. There was no squall to hide any possible reappearance and he telegraphed his base camp to report his sighting. His report was met with some disbelief and he heard no more as, apparently, the message was not passed on or connected with the loss which was afterwards made known.
I've head that story in previous treatments. Alas, I feel skeptical of the report, both since it resurfaced so long AFTER the disappearance and because, while it does reflect a likely way the ship could have sunk, that theory had been widely publicized for some time.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Joe Edward Conquer was a liar and that he lied about seeing the Waratah. His story contradicts itself, it is hella sus, and doesn't even make any sense. Nothing about aligns with what we know, and there is not a single fact out there that doesn't blatantly contradict his story. It's crazy how over a hundred years later people still fall for that frauds story.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Joe Edward Conquer was a liar and that he lied about seeing the Waratah. His story contradicts itself, it is hella sus, and doesn't even make any sense. Nothing about aligns with what we know, and there is not a single fact out there that doesn't blatantly contradict his story. It's crazy how over a hundred years later people still fall for that frauds story.
I hadn’t heard the story of the Hans Hedtoft before, but it did remind me of another anecdote, one mentioned by the filmmaker Werner Herzog in his documentary about volcanoes of all places. Apparently when Denmark was returning an ancient codex containing the Old Norse “Poetic Edda” to Iceland in 1971, they sent it on a ship with military escort. I imagine the previous incident with the Hans Hedtoft was a big influence on that decision.
Mike could you possibly look at telling the stories of some of the shipwrecks around the Australian coast? There are some fascinating stories about early shipping to and around Australia
Mike, having looked into the disappearance of SS Waratah, it appears that the gold bullion you mentioned was, in fact, the lead ingots you also mentioned, and that they are one and the same, but the lead was listed as "bullion" in the manifest, and this probably explains the confusion. I did wonder why there had not been rather more frenetic searching, and this probably explains the reason.
Fascinating stories, Mike- this is just the sort of thing I love about your channel. Regarding the Waratah, considering the bullion on board, I'm surprised that the sea bottom around the Eastern Cape hasn't been thoroughly scoured over the years by various searches.
I worked on the USCGC Taney a museum ship in Baltimore that was the sister ship of the USCGC Campbell. The Treasury class Cutters were designed to sail through incredibly rough seas so if the Campbell couldn't reach the Hans Hedtoft then she must have been lost in truly appalling conditions
@@vaclavmacgregor2464 sailing in there is equally dangerous and to the point of suicide. If the Campbell had been sent she would definitely have perished if what sunk the Hans Hedtoft. So you should use your words wisely when calling the Coasties as "cowards" so would you rather have one cutter sinking on a fool's errand or that it at least tried to find any trace of it.
You know if you can make a story about the ss denmark Her propeller blades where ripped off doing a storm She begun to sink slowly but later got towed by an Allens cargo ship And after a Lil time She sank ropes cut, and lifeboats from the Allen's line vessel to rescue the passengers (babies where lowered down in buckets)
One of my great-grandfathers was a merchant shipping captain in the late 19th century. In his memoirs he describes how he was captaining a sailing ship off the coast of south Africa when it was caught by a sudden squall. Before he could order the sails to be taken in, the ship was blown over onto its side, and water started flowing in through open hatches. He said that the ship was less than a minute from sinking when the wind suddenly changed direction, caught the sails, and righted the ship. He then reflected on how easily the ship could have disappeared without trace, with an "overdue" notice appearing in newspapers in the following months. Some years earlier he'd served on the tea clipper 'Ariel', which later disappeared without trace on a voyage from London to Sydney.
Great vlog as always! Keep up the good work! A few years back I bought a book about fishing vessels gone missing. One of them was suspected of being rammed by a Soviet submarine. One of Hurtigruten ships experienced a 60 deg list during a storm across the Vestfjorden to Bodø. The door to the bridge wing was closed. That saved at least one life on the bridge…
Hi Mike!!!! Another good video love a little mystery. You'd think they would stop calling their ships "unsinkable" at this point, can you imagine what it would be like to drain the ocean and explore all the shipwrecks... or just explore all the things at the bottom of the ocean!
I’d be curious to know how many ships have been saved by the various safety features brought in over the years. Like double bottoms and such. I hear a lot about how ship x or y was lost even though it was “unsinkable” and whatnot but these features must have been effective enough to make people think such things.
I fricking love this channel i always was interested in ocean liners and this is just the content i needed about these and i love it keep up your awesome work
Great video as always! Your ship recreations are just amazing. One idea for a video might be for a list of ships where the reason for sinking was figured out after finding the remains of the ships in modern times.
What a fantastic channel to discover! I started with planes and moved through all the aviation stuff and channels worth watching. Then when I was watching a cruise video I come across one of this dude's vids. Gave it a chance watch and was hooked :) Our TRUE history is fascinating. Thanks for bringing forward some awesome material that you normally wouldn't run across unless looking for specifically.
I still can’t believe I’ve only just discovered this channel. Amazing all round. I’ve already suggested to so many keep it up x best wishes and thanks from England. X
I really hope all these wrecks are stumbled upon and the mysteries are given *some* closure. Every time I hear stories like this I just want to dedicate my life to searching.
Re the SS Waratah - when you have an engineer and experienced ocean goer disembark because the ship was top heavy, I'm comfortable that's the main cause. Combined with the sea conditions of Cape Horn, it really doesn't need a rogue wave to capsize it heavy seas.
Didn’t the Arctic also sink right around the same time? Of course we know what happened to her, but I would imagine that between the two, they sounded the death knell for Collins.
Just recently found your channel, shipwrecks fascinate me despite a fear of deep water due to almost drowning as a child, your videos are well put together, easy to listen to and your voice is perfect for this kind of work
Another candidate for this sad list of disappeared ships is the Danish training vessel “København” (“Copenhagen”), a 5-mastet bark lost sometime December 1928 - January 1929 on a voyage from Buenos Aires to Australia. At the time the world’s largest sailing ship, all 59 souls lost without trace or explanation. The loss remains an mystery to this day.
Hey Mike, I realize that this ship never experienced any REAL calamity at sea, but do you think that there's any chance we could get a brief documentary on the SS City of New York 1888 (later SS New York, the ship that was moored next to Oceanic and almost collided with RMS Titanic on it's maiden voyage while leaving port)? I've always loved the look of that ship when it was first built. It ended up looking like an old homely cargo ship in 1912.
Network TV should consult/hire you for these great episodes..you have the charismatic effect and a dapper dresser..plus your diction and accent is pleasant to listen too..
Top quality presentation skills, which is rare on youtube, even on many popular channels; I even watched the "commercial" which I always skip in vids on other channels. I expect we will one day see this young man on television.
Great video. I bet there could be even more of these mystery disappearances videos because there's been a lot of these. Do you think that maybe a shift in Waratah's cargo combined with a rouge wave could take it down? I feel like that could be a logical idea given it's heavy cargo and the rough weather it experienced before going missing. Stability issues or not, that combination could sink almost anything.
Sawyer the Engineer was a friend of my grandfathers many years ago. I actually live in durban now and have sailed on a few sail boats as Chef between Durban and Cape Town. Beautiful trip but its known for scary weather at times. Great video as always
Pleased to see that you included the ill-fated "S.S. Waratah" in your list Amigo.. I first heard of the story in South Africa some years ago. As you are no doubt aware the strip of ocean between the east coast of Mocambique/south east coast of South Africa and the west coast of the island of Madagascar, is called the "Mocambique Channel". It is notorious apparently, because the warm Mocambique current sweeps down from the Equator to meet with the cooler Agulhas current sweeping up from the South Atlantic/Southern Ocean region. Add to this that at certain times of the year one also has the effect of the South East Trade Winds, with the occasional cyclone forming, blowing across the ocean surface towards the KwaZulu/Natal coastline and one has a potentially very dangerous mix indeed. There have been several reports over the years of "ship-killing" waves forming in this area and it was put to me as the likely scenario for the loss of the "Waratah". Only goes to show that no matter how sophisiticated we humans might think our structures to be, they are really quite puny against "Mother Nature's" ire..!!
Well said. There are more unexplained ship losses in this area than any other, including several recent ones. Most have been attributed to the frequency of the rogue waves that you mentioned. These waves are well documented and most professional mariners are aware of them.
My favourite lost ship is the Munchen, which to date has still never been found. Apart from the Pacific I'd never heard of any of these other ships though, and it's always interesting to hear about these.
I love your videos and I also LOVE that the “bell” is a ship bell and not the high pitchedm headache inducing bell sounds that most channels use. Love this channel
Also worth mentioning, is the Danish school ship (training vessel) København, which disappeared without a trace around Christmas 1928, on its way from Buenos Aires, Argentina to Adelaide, Australia. At the time it was the world's largest sailing ship (since, obviously, there weren't a lot of sailing ships left in 1928). Last message from the ship was on the 23rd December 1928: "We wish everyone a merry Christmas. Everything well on board. Calm weather." When the ship didn't arrive in Adelaide by February 1929, the search began, but not a single piece of the ship has ever been found - 60 young sailors disappeared with that ship, many of them teenagers. In 1933, the school ship Danmark was launched to replace the lost ship. The new ship was built a bit smaller, but much stronger with a lot more reinforcement, to hopefully not suffer the same fate as her predecessor. She is however still sailing, and still manned mostly by young people, as it's used to train people to become sailors and ships assistants.
I thought maybe the SS Poet would be on this list. She disappeared in 1980, after departing Philadelphia, loaded with grain. Bound for Port Said, Egypt. 34 men lost. Only a very lucky break (for me) I wasn’t one of them. I was assigned as Radio Officer aboard, but missed joining the ship just before sailing. My replacement died instead of me.
Hey Oceanliner designs, I have a theory about the loss of the SS Waratah It is that the ship leaves Durban bound for Cape town and passes the SS Clan Maclntyre. According to Wikipedia, the next day, the weather which was already getting worse deteriorated into a Hurricane. The ship then ran into the hurricane listing badly. the ship was then struck by a rogue wave on the side which caused it to lean over. As the SS Waratah began to stabilise, the containers which contained the lead and ore concentrate broke free causing it to mix resulting in the ship capsizing. Due to the water entering through the funnel shaft, some boilers exploded due to the inrushing water and the ship then sank. What do you think?
I really like the way you talk and telling us. It just feel perfect and also calming at the same time. I'm might try to talk like this when I have to give presentation because it just so good.
that's a very long, detailed and calm message to write as a ship is sinking at 3:00am and stuff into a bottle. If it's real, it shows nerves of steel to sit there and pen a long message as people are running and screaming everywhere scrambling for a lifeboat in the middle of the night as the ship slowly tilts. Every word you write is one less seat in a lifeboat. How can you not start to panic!
Back in the eighties one of the ships owned by one of the companies I sailed with was hit by a freak wave while sailing off South Africa and suffered serious damage requiring a lengthy spell in dry dock to repair. I was not on the ship, but the company sent a general advisery out to all its vessels reminding crews to ensure everything was properly secured etc. prior to sailing. During conversations on the ship I was on the story of the SS Waratah came up, it was generally believed that a rogue wave was responsible, perhaps combined with the cargo shifting. With all that gold onboard I am surprised no one has attempted to find it ( though I gues it will be pretty deep )
@Oceanliner Designs Have you made any videos talking about the Edmund Fitzgerald? I just found your channel yesterday so I haven't watched too many of your videos yet so I wanted to ask.
As always, entertaining and educational.... Maybe a program on 'The Straitsman' sinking in the Yarra River Melbourne, the Greyhound and Tahiti collusion in Sydney Harbour too?
When you realize how truly vast the oceans are, and, how tiny, and, insignificant ships are in comparison, it's surprising there haven't been MORE disappearances.
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hey mike, how long does it take for a typical video for you to create? u must spend hours research on top of editing clips
Hey man you can feature the ship tragedy of "Doña Paz"
the scary part? the number of cases like this that you HAVEN'T covered yet. ;-;
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Everytime I think of a Ocean Liner going missing, I always think of the fictional Italian Ocean liner Antonia Graza (based on the Andrea Doria) from the movie Ghost Ship. The thought of a liner crossing the North Atlantic with over a thousand people on board disappearing without a trace then being found floating derelict by a salvage team in the Mediterranean decades later without any sign of what happened is haunting
It’s such a specific yet interesting genre. The show 1899 dips into that, but it’s a bit more scifi than pure horror
Thank you obi wan
I know it’s not a great movie, but I really love that movie. It’s my guilty pleasure.
Love ghost ship. Plus the soundtrack is awesome. Mudvayne
@@adrianghandtchi1562 The scene of the wire literally going thru the crowd lived in my brain long after I forgot the name of the movie.
It's stunning how Hans Hedtoft is similar to Titanic. Both were considered as very safe, encountered ice berg on maiden voyage, collided with it ripping rivets and opening too many watertight compartments and sank before any help could arrive. She definitely needs more recognition.
SS Waratah is always mentioned, but poor SS Koombana of March 1912 rarely ever rates a mention. One of great remaining mysteries on the West Australian coast. She was lost in a cyclone somewhere between Port Headland and Broome with 150 lives gone, just a month before Titanic went down. A mixed cargo an passenger vessel on the Fremantle to Wyndham run, she was only 4 years old at the time of her loss and state of the art, carrying her passengers in great luxury.
A shame, really. More people would likely be aware of the Koombana's loss, had it sunk in just about any other month of any other year. Talk about bad timing, especially since it's just as much of a tragedy as any other mentioned here.
Waratah was actually found in 2009 by Spanish divers but they chose not disclose its location and she lies of the African coast how do I know this because my grandfather was part of the diving team (African coast guard) and it lies very deep and dangerous to get two
@@SteamRailPatreonR761VR it was thought it was found but isn't the ship that was found is the SS Nailsea Meadow
@@Angryginger2421 oh welpi pray that the ship is found soon
@@SteamRailPatreonR761VR What African Coastguard?
South African here. The Waratah is a well known story down here. Happy to see it getting mentioned online
For those who have served at sea, we have all experienced huge waves, that literally gave us that sinking feeling. One minute you can see the sky, the next; all that can be seen is a wall of water. During storms, ships steer into the wind and attack the waves head on - it’s the waves hitting port or starboard that are really dangerous, causing roll over.
I can sure understand that sinking feeling in those conditions
@@EYEWITNESS-NEWS I think he means the sinking feeling in your stomach when your falling. If the waves are big enough and ships are long enough some parts of the ship can kinda free fall when cresting the waves.
@@bros1183It's called "porpoising" or "hogging".
The south african coast is certainly known today for rogue waves. It's something to do with the sea currents just off the coast.
@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361 also referred to as "Pants-Shittingly Terrifying" , "I just uncontrollably wet myself" and the classic "Impossible to shit myself. Asshole puckered up tighter'n'a snare drum! "
SS Waratah is my favorite 'mystical disapperence ship'. She's so shrouded in mystery and still we don't know what happend to her. My personal theory is that her poor stability was the main culprit. I think she was hit by a rouge wave that came out of nowhere and she capsized and sank within minutes. Mike, I am happy you do this videos and keep on doing these. Amazing work you do.
My theory, SS Waratah was a robbery. 7K+ gold bars? "The ship was found not to be the Waratah" Very curious?
regarding SS Waratah its not a matter of what sank her as what did not since there are so many issues with the ship apparently.
There's just not much of a mystery about the Waratah. She went down in a storm. We may not know the exact spot, or whether there was a rogue wave in addition to the hurricane itself, or whether she'd have sunk even if she weren't top heavy, but none of that changes that we know pretty much what happened. It's an extremely unmysterious mystery. Disappearing without a trace was all too common in the pre-radio days.
I disagree!
My late grandfather was working at Durban docks after his retirement and observed that when the Ss Waratah was docked so many rats were running off the ship. Rats running off of a ship is a bad sign that all was not well with the ship.
love that mike went through the Hans Hedtoft section without mentioning the T word. The desire must have been immense 😄
I resisted temptation to the end despite using terms like ‘iceberg’, ‘rivets’ and ‘maiden voyage’!
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I was expecting a mention of the RMS Clickbait as well.
Plenty of news articles about specific ships feel the need to shoehorn in the _Titanic_ despite little connection or similarities with her. The _Hans Hedtoft_ would have been a perfectly acceptable time to bring up the _Titanic,_ but no. Mike Brady does not give into Titanicization and instead treats the _Hans Hedtoft_ as her own ship and not something to compare with the _Titanic._ I think that alone says a lot about the quality of his writing style and what he values.
What “T” word?
In the summer of 2022 during Oceangate's Titanic expedition, there was an unknown object discovered near the wreck of the Titanic. This caused great excitement and there began a discussion as to what ship it might have been. The Noronic was one of the ships mentioned. Turns out it was not a ship at all, it was a pile of rocks.
Edward Y Townsend (Daniel J Morrells sister) is somewhere in Titanics neighborhood as well.
@@tinypoolmodelshipyard that was also on the list of potential shipwrecks.
Well they can now add the Titan next to the Titanic
So interesting to find this comment literal hours after hearing about Titan's implosion on an expedition to the Titanic.
Strangely enough, now it's the oceangates sub thats there.
Glad you covered these ships Mike, great work. RIP to everybody who vanished with these ships.
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Yeah that feels like bad juju right there! You're dissing the very ocean you're sailing on, wouldn't be surprised some sailors see that as quite the omen!
Mike, thank you again for another great video. Each of these stories gives me chills, but thank you for keeping the stories and the memory of the passengers and crew alive.
Thanks so much Peden. Learning about them certainly gave me chills too!
Glad to see SS Waratah got mentioned - I first heard about the ship when I saw a memorial to it in a church in my uni town, and the whole case has interested me ever since. Same with that of the Hedtoft, as it's such a shame that all that historical data went with her and the crew.
If you don’t mind my asking, where was this memorial? I had a family member on board and would love to see it
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It's almost more chilling to hear contemporary accounts by highly skilled and experienced men that identified issues in advance of ship disasters. In a way, we always have experts who can identify issues in a situation where the majority see no (or relatively little) risk and we tend to dismiss them, but it makes one pause and think whenever we see evidence of a potential aversion of tragedy had those people's analyses been considered.
I had actually heard of the Hans Hedtoft!
As someone who loves paper trails and research, I found it a shame then, and find it a shame now.
So much knowledge is lost when a person dies, but that person can, at least, take precautions to prevent it ALL being lost by writing things down and spreading them.
But when you lose the writings... there's no recovery from that. It's a shame!
What an awful experience. Could you imagine being on one of those? Knowing it's over?
I don't think I could handle it.
You'd be surprised how quickly you try to get your shit together when you KNOW FOR A FACT you are going to die.
Indeed, ship loss continues today. Some vanishings (perhaps many) are modern piracy: Turn off the transponder, change the paint scheme, add a new name, forge some papers. Presto! Ship and cargo continue and a large insurance claim is filed. However, genuine sinkings do occur. I listened to one. In the early 70's, I was in the USN aboard a fleet ballistic missile submarine in the Pacific. A typhoon intersected our patrol route for a few days. The strong weather reached unexpected depths, but we had little concern. On sonar we heard other vessels laboring in the storm. Engines raced when screws broke water, then bogged to a near stall when the propeller plunged deep. A couple of days after we first recognized a particular sonar contact, it broke up and sank. The sounds of rending metal and collapsing tanks is quite distinct. The event was over quickly. The storm raged on. I've always wondered about that ship's identity and the human loss.
If you happen to know the exact/rough dates, it may be possible to find out. That is, if you haven’t already tried extensively to find out
Hearing a ship sinking, as you have heard, must be a pretty horrible experience.
It would be interesting to see a video about how was life for paying passengers on these cargo ships from Cunard, White Star or any other shipping company at the time.
Probably might've been enhanced by KFC
How people lived on board is my biggest interest in all the ships.
Been obsessed with Naronic's disappearance ever since I was a kid, when I found a website called "What Happened to the Naronic?" I poured over that site so much as a kid, though I believe it's since been taken down. Personally, I think, even if none of the bottles found claiming to be from the ship are genuine, they all still tell *a version* of the truth, that being that the ship went down in poor weather. Unfortunately, without it having the notoriety as some of the big passenger liners like Waratah, I don't think there'll ever be a chance to truly go out and find it.
Pored. You're not a liquid.
@@LaurieWilliams-lk8fc that's where you're wrong! we're all made of 70% water. check and mate!
Another ship disappearance you might find interesting is that of the Marine Sulfur Queen, a WW2 vintage tanker adapted to carry cargoes of molten sulfur. She disappeared in, I believe, the Gulf of Mexico and no trace of her has ever been found except, if I remember correctly, part of a name board or other kind of wood plaque showing signs of fire damage.
The Marine Sulfur Queen is one of the great mysteries of the Bermuda Triangle
@@goldie44 That wasn't in the Bermuda Triangle.
not gonna lie man, your growth over the past year has been astonishing, i remember subscribing back in august and you had just reached 40k and within under half a year you've gained over 100k! keep it up man your stuff is great
Apropos the Waratah, a Cape Mounted Rifleman, Edward Conquer (who become a Colonel in the S.A.Air Force), had been heliographing on the right bank of the Xora River and noted thro' his telescope a large ship approaching, making heavy going. Her shape and colour matched that of the Waratah exactly, yet he had not known of the ship's existence and he let a comrade also see the vessel through the eyepiece. He saw her roll to starboard and a following wave came over her and he saw no more, also telling Adshead, his comrade. There was no squall to hide any possible reappearance and he telegraphed his base camp to report his sighting. His report was met with some disbelief and he heard no more as, apparently, the message was not passed on or connected with the loss which was afterwards made known.
I've head that story in previous treatments. Alas, I feel skeptical of the report, both since it resurfaced so long AFTER the disappearance and because, while it does reflect a likely way the ship could have sunk, that theory had been widely publicized for some time.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Joe Edward Conquer was a liar and that he lied about seeing the Waratah. His story contradicts itself, it is hella sus, and doesn't even make any sense. Nothing about aligns with what we know, and there is not a single fact out there that doesn't blatantly contradict his story. It's crazy how over a hundred years later people still fall for that frauds story.
Emlyn Brown followed it up with a seabed search which turned up nothing.
The Atlantic crossing sounds dangerous. The solitude and the ice.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Joe Edward Conquer was a liar and that he lied about seeing the Waratah. His story contradicts itself, it is hella sus, and doesn't even make any sense. Nothing about aligns with what we know, and there is not a single fact out there that doesn't blatantly contradict his story. It's crazy how over a hundred years later people still fall for that frauds story.
I hadn’t heard the story of the Hans Hedtoft before, but it did remind me of another anecdote, one mentioned by the filmmaker Werner Herzog in his documentary about volcanoes of all places. Apparently when Denmark was returning an ancient codex containing the Old Norse “Poetic Edda” to Iceland in 1971, they sent it on a ship with military escort. I imagine the previous incident with the Hans Hedtoft was a big influence on that decision.
I suggest making a Top 10 list of the Deadliest Ship Sinking’s of All-Time.
Perhaps with the Wilhelm Gustlof at the top?
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I suggest learning the purposes of apostrophes and hyphens.
The story of the SS Waratah has allways intrigued me, would be very interesting to see an sepereate video on her including the search efforts!
I dont think theres too much to find, the fire on board the rolling i bet all is left is a tangle mess of metal
Mike could you possibly look at telling the stories of some of the shipwrecks around the Australian coast? There are some fascinating stories about early shipping to and around Australia
Mike, having looked into the disappearance of SS Waratah, it appears that the gold bullion you mentioned was, in fact, the lead ingots you also mentioned, and that they are one and the same, but the lead was listed as "bullion" in the manifest, and this probably explains the confusion. I did wonder why there had not been rather more frenetic searching, and this probably explains the reason.
I agree. What might have been shipped at Durban is in the realm of speculation....
Thanks for including as much evidence as possible and for avoiding melodramatic music and etc. Also, kudos for very informative contextual commentary.
Another awesome vid from MB and OLD - Good Work Mike!
Fascinating stories, Mike- this is just the sort of thing I love about your channel.
Regarding the Waratah, considering the bullion on board, I'm surprised that the sea bottom around the Eastern Cape hasn't been thoroughly scoured over the years by various searches.
Splendid presentation...calm and factual......plus interesting visuals.
Thanks so much Gowan :)
I worked on the USCGC Taney a museum ship in Baltimore that was the sister ship of the USCGC Campbell. The Treasury class Cutters were designed to sail through incredibly rough seas so if the Campbell couldn't reach the Hans Hedtoft then she must have been lost in truly appalling conditions
They shouldhave done something those cowards!!
@@vaclavmacgregor2464 sailing in there is equally dangerous and to the point of suicide. If the Campbell had been sent she would definitely have perished if what sunk the Hans Hedtoft. So you should use your words wisely when calling the Coasties as "cowards" so would you rather have one cutter sinking on a fool's errand or that it at least tried to find any trace of it.
Mike, you do excellent work with your research and your delivery. Thank you!
You know if you can make a story about the ss denmark
Her propeller blades where ripped off doing a storm
She begun to sink slowly but later got towed by an Allens cargo ship
And after a Lil time
She sank ropes cut, and lifeboats from the Allen's line vessel to rescue the passengers (babies where lowered down in buckets)
As a Dane im very happy to see Hans Hedtoft being mentioned, i have always seen it as a bit overlooked outside of Denmark
Great stories that are lesser known, and each could get their own full video. Nice job as always!
One of my great-grandfathers was a merchant shipping captain in the late 19th century. In his memoirs he describes how he was captaining a sailing ship off the coast of south Africa when it was caught by a sudden squall. Before he could order the sails to be taken in, the ship was blown over onto its side, and water started flowing in through open hatches. He said that the ship was less than a minute from sinking when the wind suddenly changed direction, caught the sails, and righted the ship.
He then reflected on how easily the ship could have disappeared without trace, with an "overdue" notice appearing in newspapers in the following months.
Some years earlier he'd served on the tea clipper 'Ariel', which later disappeared without trace on a voyage from London to Sydney.
Great vlog as always! Keep up the good work! A few years back I bought a book about fishing vessels gone missing. One of them was suspected of being rammed by a Soviet submarine. One of Hurtigruten ships experienced a 60 deg list during a storm across the Vestfjorden to Bodø. The door to the bridge wing was closed. That saved at least one life on the bridge…
Hi Mike!!!! Another good video love a little mystery. You'd think they would stop calling their ships "unsinkable" at this point, can you imagine what it would be like to drain the ocean and explore all the shipwrecks... or just explore all the things at the bottom of the ocean!
I’d be curious to know how many ships have been saved by the various safety features brought in over the years. Like double bottoms and such. I hear a lot about how ship x or y was lost even though it was “unsinkable” and whatnot but these features must have been effective enough to make people think such things.
Hey Mike started watching a couple months ago and now I am obsessed, keep it up 🚢
It's amazing to think how much of the ocean we know nothing about, only a small bit being explored. Makes you feel small.
Thank you for those four fascinating reports, Mike.
Thanks Mike for including SS Waratah in your video. As always I find your videos fascinating and of excellent quality - Regards from the UK!
Thanks so much Robert!
I fricking love this channel i always was interested in ocean liners and this is just the content i needed about these and i love it keep up your awesome work
I never tire of hearing or reading about the Waratah. Another great video! A+ presentation! Perhaps a look at the loss of the Munchen?
Great video as always! Your ship recreations are just amazing. One idea for a video might be for a list of ships where the reason for sinking was figured out after finding the remains of the ships in modern times.
My friend Mike Brady! 🍻 cheers mate
The absolute best channel for learning about ship disasters.
What a fantastic channel to discover! I started with planes and moved through all the aviation stuff and channels worth watching. Then when I was watching a cruise video I come across one of this dude's vids. Gave it a chance watch and was hooked :) Our TRUE history is fascinating. Thanks for bringing forward some awesome material that you normally wouldn't run across unless looking for specifically.
I love your videos and content! One of my favorite channels on UA-cam!
This man is the best dressed, best spoken gentleman I have ever seen. I enjoy listening to him immensely.
I only discovered your channel late last year but I'm glad I found it. Your content is fantastic 👍
I looked at some of your art and it looked wonderful
I still can’t believe I’ve only just discovered this channel. Amazing all round. I’ve already suggested to so many keep it up x best wishes and thanks from England. X
Amazing video Mike! The fact that you do all of these animations and all of this research for these videos is amazing! Keep it up!😀
I really hope all these wrecks are stumbled upon and the mysteries are given *some* closure. Every time I hear stories like this I just want to dedicate my life to searching.
Excellent work, Mike!
Re the SS Waratah - when you have an engineer and experienced ocean goer disembark because the ship was top heavy, I'm comfortable that's the main cause. Combined with the sea conditions of Cape Horn, it really doesn't need a rogue wave to capsize it heavy seas.
Another very entertaining and informative video. The story of the "Pacific" and the Collins Line in general is endlessly fascinating and tragic.
Didn’t the Arctic also sink right around the same time? Of course we know what happened to her, but I would imagine that between the two, they sounded the death knell for Collins.
Just recently found your channel, shipwrecks fascinate me despite a fear of deep water due to almost drowning as a child, your videos are well put together, easy to listen to and your voice is perfect for this kind of work
Another candidate for this sad list of disappeared ships is the Danish training vessel “København” (“Copenhagen”), a 5-mastet bark lost sometime December 1928 - January 1929 on a voyage from Buenos Aires to Australia. At the time the world’s largest sailing ship, all 59 souls lost without trace or explanation. The loss remains an mystery to this day.
Hey Mike, I realize that this ship never experienced any REAL calamity at sea, but do you think that there's any chance we could get a brief documentary on the SS City of New York 1888 (later SS New York, the ship that was moored next to Oceanic and almost collided with RMS Titanic on it's maiden voyage while leaving port)? I've always loved the look of that ship when it was first built. It ended up looking like an old homely cargo ship in 1912.
She does look a looker, nice lines and nicely raked funnels!
Your neck tie is marvelous.
Thank you for producing and sharing! Great video (as always)!
Please make a video on the Estonia
Another fascinating and informative video. Thanks Mike
Thanks Bill! :)
Network TV should consult/hire you for these great episodes..you have the charismatic effect and a dapper dresser..plus your diction and accent is pleasant to listen too..
Top quality presentation skills, which is rare on youtube, even on many popular channels; I even watched the "commercial" which I always skip in vids on other channels. I expect we will one day see this young man on television.
Great video. I bet there could be even more of these mystery disappearances videos because there's been a lot of these.
Do you think that maybe a shift in Waratah's cargo combined with a rouge wave could take it down? I feel like that could be a logical idea given it's heavy cargo and the rough weather it experienced before going missing. Stability issues or not, that combination could sink almost anything.
That's what *I've* always suspected.
Never get on any ship that anyone is claiming to be unsinkable. In case God takes the statement as a challenge?
"a rouge wave" - red?
Rogue?
Sawyer the Engineer was a friend of my grandfathers many years ago. I actually live in durban now and have sailed on a few sail boats as Chef between Durban and Cape Town. Beautiful trip but its known for scary weather at times. Great video as always
Pleased to see that you included the ill-fated "S.S. Waratah" in your list Amigo.. I first heard of the story in South Africa some years ago. As you are no doubt aware the strip of ocean between the east coast of Mocambique/south east coast of South Africa and the west coast of the island of Madagascar, is called the "Mocambique Channel". It is notorious apparently, because the warm Mocambique current sweeps down from the Equator to meet with the cooler Agulhas current sweeping up from the South Atlantic/Southern Ocean region. Add to this that at certain times of the year one also has the effect of the South East Trade Winds, with the occasional cyclone forming, blowing across the ocean surface towards the KwaZulu/Natal coastline and one has a potentially very dangerous mix indeed. There have been several reports over the years of "ship-killing" waves forming in this area and it was put to me as the likely scenario for the loss of the "Waratah". Only goes to show that no matter how sophisiticated we humans might think our structures to be, they are really quite puny against "Mother Nature's" ire..!!
Well said. There are more unexplained ship losses in this area than any other, including several recent ones. Most have been attributed to the frequency of the rogue waves that you mentioned. These waves are well documented and most professional mariners are aware of them.
...your presentations get better and better...Glad to see that you have found your voice to the world....
My favourite lost ship is the Munchen, which to date has still never been found. Apart from the Pacific I'd never heard of any of these other ships though, and it's always interesting to hear about these.
I love your videos and I also LOVE that the “bell” is a ship bell and not the high pitchedm headache inducing bell sounds that most channels use. Love this channel
Yet another superb video sir! Well done.
Very interesting stories and another great video, Mike !
Another famous Australian ship is the SS Koombana. Although wreckage washed ashore the ship still remains undiscovered with all on board lost.
Also worth mentioning, is the Danish school ship (training vessel) København, which disappeared without a trace around Christmas 1928, on its way from Buenos Aires, Argentina to Adelaide, Australia. At the time it was the world's largest sailing ship (since, obviously, there weren't a lot of sailing ships left in 1928). Last message from the ship was on the 23rd December 1928: "We wish everyone a merry Christmas. Everything well on board. Calm weather." When the ship didn't arrive in Adelaide by February 1929, the search began, but not a single piece of the ship has ever been found - 60 young sailors disappeared with that ship, many of them teenagers.
In 1933, the school ship Danmark was launched to replace the lost ship. The new ship was built a bit smaller, but much stronger with a lot more reinforcement, to hopefully not suffer the same fate as her predecessor. She is however still sailing, and still manned mostly by young people, as it's used to train people to become sailors and ships assistants.
I thought maybe the SS Poet would be on this list. She disappeared in 1980, after departing Philadelphia, loaded with grain. Bound for Port Said, Egypt. 34 men lost. Only a very lucky break (for me) I wasn’t one of them. I was assigned as Radio Officer aboard, but missed joining the ship just before sailing. My replacement died instead of me.
You truly are a lucky man........
Hey Oceanliner designs, I have a theory about the loss of the SS Waratah
It is that the ship leaves Durban bound for Cape town and passes the SS Clan Maclntyre. According to Wikipedia, the next day, the weather which was already getting worse deteriorated into a Hurricane. The ship then ran into the hurricane listing badly. the ship was then struck by a rogue wave on the side which caused it to lean over. As the SS Waratah began to stabilise, the containers which contained the lead and ore concentrate broke free causing it to mix resulting in the ship capsizing. Due to the water entering through the funnel shaft, some boilers exploded due to the inrushing water and the ship then sank.
What do you think?
You have a real skill in drawing ships. The picture you showed looked fantastic. Do you still do this?
Enjoy hearing about your journey as a young artist - it can be tough to make a living doing what you really love, but you’re getting there Mike!
I really like the way you talk and telling us. It just feel perfect and also calming at the same time. I'm might try to talk like this when I have to give presentation because it just so good.
It's lovely to have a live background back! Please don't get rid of the whiskey chart either!
Very good job for the videos you have making recently keep on doing the great work! ❤
Greetings from England. I love your stuff! Facinated by the sea and ships. Shipwrecks and mysteries particularly. Cheers! Jez. 👍🍻
It seems to me that the ocean floors of the world must be covered with rust and bones.
that's a very long, detailed and calm message to write as a ship is sinking at 3:00am and stuff into a bottle. If it's real, it shows nerves of steel to sit there and pen a long message as people are running and screaming everywhere scrambling for a lifeboat in the middle of the night as the ship slowly tilts. Every word you write is one less seat in a lifeboat. How can you not start to panic!
Great work Mike, scary stuff. I hope the wrecks are located someday.
Back in the eighties one of the ships owned by one of the companies I sailed with was hit by a freak wave while sailing off South Africa and suffered serious damage requiring a lengthy spell in dry dock to repair. I was not on the ship, but the company sent a general advisery out to all its vessels reminding crews to ensure everything was properly secured etc. prior to sailing. During conversations on the ship I was on the story of the SS Waratah came up, it was generally believed that a rogue wave was responsible, perhaps combined with the cargo shifting. With all that gold onboard I am surprised no one has attempted to find it ( though I gues it will be pretty deep )
Thank you for talking about Hans Hedtoft! I think you are the first one to do that
@Oceanliner Designs Have you made any videos talking about the Edmund Fitzgerald? I just found your channel yesterday so I haven't watched too many of your videos yet so I wanted to ask.
Yet another great video. Entertaining, informative, high production value, and more!
We need to get you more subscribers, Mike! 😃😃😃
15:54 When the Pacific vanishes on the Atlantic, you know things have taken a serious downward turn.
As always, entertaining and educational.... Maybe a program on 'The Straitsman' sinking in the Yarra River Melbourne, the Greyhound and Tahiti collusion in Sydney Harbour too?
When you realize how truly vast the oceans are, and, how tiny, and, insignificant ships are in comparison, it's surprising there haven't been MORE disappearances.
Oh hell yeah, happy to catch this upload before bed. My favourite of your videos is the rogue wave one, so this looks to be an awesome follow-up.
The USCGC Campbell, mentioned in the Hedtoft section, had a most distinguished record in WWII.
Superb video as usual from you. Just shows no matter how good your ship is the ocean will have the last word in bad weather.