My daughter is 1/4 Japanese. When she graduated high school, she wanted to wear kimono. She had been raised with her grandparents her whole life and was a part of the customs and traditions, so her Japanese grandmother helped her with the kimono and all the bits and pieces to put her together. This is what 'honoring culture or tradition' is about, not making a mockery with a costume wedding dress and head dres. The dress may not have been as 'sexy' as she was hoping for if she asked his family to help her, but she would have shown a lot more respect for both his family and his culture.
My boyfriends southern family had a whole conversation about how much native they had in them and how they have reservations near them. They’re white and blonde lol.
Yep, is very common in America to claim part native American. Main reason comes from people wanting explain away actually having African DNA. It's more likely the person has African DNA, especially in the south, more so than American Indian.
I've been in Tenn since I was 3. And just about everyone claims to have a Cherokee princess ancestor. I however know for fsct that I'm 100% white/European. Not a drop of Native American blood in me.
@@MmntoMorrissonfirst gen means first generation. She's the first to come from one country to a new country. So she's first gen in the country she's living in now
@@MmntoMorrisson first generation means my birth parents have never lived in my current country. (E.g. I was adopted from Russia but my birth parents still live there)
I'm 50% Potawatomi and registered to my tribe. Everybody gets so excited and exclaims they're Native too when they meet me. I dated somebody that had the Cherokee flag tattooed. His mother even asked how to get registered with the tribe. DNA test came back 0.0% Native 😂 why does everybody always say they're Cherokee? There's hundreds of tribes lol I got to the part with the blue headress. Every feather is blessed and they're sacred. Also as another commenter said they're not worn by women.
I'm not Native at all (here because the potatoes were gone and got jobs in the WV coal mines) and I only figured the headdress was worn by men because I have only seen photos of male chiefs (or high status within the tribes?) wear them. So when I first saw hers I was like "uuuuuuh aside from everything else wrong with this, no?" lol
Well that's because there's a million 1/32 Cherokees out there, probably more now that your chief is enrolling descendants of slaves 🤦🏻♂️ which sounds like a good thing until you think about the afrocentrics trying to steal our culture and will use that as a foundation. BTW I'm Acjachemen
Oh and "Prince" is in my username because I like to mess with my sister and tell her we're royalty 🤣 as you know we don't really have princes. That was like Mayans and Aztecs thing
At this point I think we are all “descended” from a “Cherokee princess”. They also like to throw in other famous natives like Pocahontas, Sacagewea and the like.
Being full blood Native American (half Apache/ half Pueblo) I can say being indigenous is more than just blood, it’s about knowing and practicing the culture. Knowing the history and the language of your people. Without that you’re just another face in this world. I also lived in the south for awhile and my boss would always bring up his native side too, so that’s funny that Ken brings that up. But I also hear that from others too when they find out I’m native, Cherokee is the most used 😄
I agree. Unfortunately, the impact of genocide and assimilation has made it nearly impossible for those separated from their roots to find their way back.
This. My mom's bio dad was Cherokee supposedly, but I wasnt raised in the culture or carry the customs, so I don't really claim it. Though I would like to learn more eventually when u get a chance to look into my family history.
@blinxart9120 My mom's grandfather had about 3/4 Cherokee and I can relate, I'd like to know the customs and the culture. I'd also like to know if there's any truth behind the stories I heard growing up, or if they're just stories 🤔
I'm fairly certain most white people are 1 percent Cherokee xD fr though, I live around native Americans and you are completely right. It's like finding out you are related to a royal family because your great great x20 was royalty. doesn't make you royalty but some people flaunt it. xD
A lot of Native American tribes actually used leather or sinew to tie clothing, bracelets, pouches and more. I’ve personally never met or heard of any using straw (knowing it was brittle) for anything other than basket weaving which strengthens the straw with a ton of support lol
i was digging for this comment.. i'm white as can be and even I know straw will not hold without either braiding it or strengthening it somehow.. they literally just took it off a spool and tied it, expecting it to be like a cord of leather or sinew lol
this shit is too funny 😂😂😂 i’m full Native American , Navajo and Lakota Souix to be exact and you are correct 🤣 if i had a dollar for everytime a white person told me they’re part native i’d be a millionaire
My white friend got her DNA test back the other day. The family lie has been exposed. No Cherokee, no Native American DNA at all. 😂 Why do they lie about it?
@@midnitemanic2795...that doesn't mean none at all, that just means it's nondetectable in her generation If they had native ancestors 200 years ago, but then never had any other kids with a native after that initial, then the DNA wouldn't be strong enough to be detected, but would still exist
I agree with you Ken. My family is supposedly part native American, don't know what tribe, but I've never actually claimed it because it's one so little and two I don't have any paperwork to prove nor do I really care to. Not saying I don't think the culture is fascinating, but not gonna claim it myself like these people.
Exactly supposedly my great-grandmother was half Cherokee but.... Nothing shows up on DNA tests. The photos of her I've been told you can see she is half native. *shrug* This video though.... What was the dress maker thinking.... Edit: Yes because STRAW can totally hold a corset tight as they are supposed to be 🤦🏼♀️
Same, tests show only over 10% and def dont look it either, plus being adopted its hard to really get any info especially since the test i took is regionally based so ive got like 3 possibilities on their map, but since i dont wanna be "that person" i just like appreciating the cultures when i can. unlike the ppl in the vid tho omg that was pain 🤣
Most families that can trace their lineage in the States to pre-1850’s sadly have Native American genes. A lot of rape, and forced adoption of Native American children to “white” families caused this. But don’t tell 50% of the US population, that’s Critical Race Theory.
As someone who works in the crazy, busy wedding industry.... when she solemnly said, "If the straw doesn't hold up... the wedding's rUiNeD," I lost ALL air in my lungs laughing suddenly. xDDD
I have no indigenous ancestry, but I do have a funny genealogy story: My great Uncle has always had a lot of pride in his Greek heritage and was very adamant that he was Greek, NOT Italian. His daughter gave him a 23&Me kit as a gift for a birthday to trace his lineage and find out more about his family history. ....He was 0% Greek. Turns out his grandma moved from Sicily a long time ago and just told everybody she was Greek, then passed the same fixation on to her kids. He was FURIOUS and the whole fiasco is supposed to be a big secret in my family, apparently. However, Great Aunt told everybody, so we all secretly know and just don't bring it up. He hasn't gone off about "Greek pride" in awhile though...
That’s hilarious. There are parts of Sicily that are very Greek-like culturally, though, due to Greece being one of the many cultures that occupied Sicily. It’s possible that side really did descend from Greece centuries ago, but it’s too far back for a DNA test to determine. My dad’s side of the family is also from Sicily. We did DNA tests because my maternal grandmother is adopted, and it actually came back that my dad’s side is part Sicilian, part Middle Eastern, and small amounts of other islands across the Mediterranean and even North Africa. He wasn’t happy either, but anyone from the coastal Mediterranean should assume they’re a bit of a mixed bag.
I see the title and i just get flashbacks to the southpark episode with randy doing a "dna and me" test Randy is 2.8% neandethal and goes beserk blaming people of wiping out his ancestors etc 😂
I don't have any tribes blood that I know of, but I grew up in New Mexico surrounded by Navajo and I have seen plenty of tourists who prove your point exactly.
I have Cherokee on both sides of my family. At Powwows, we have this lady who wants everyone to think she's Native too, but we all know she isn't and we let her do her thing. This dress is SO outside of anything we would ever wear, I sent my mom a screengrab of it and she's still laughing..
Out of all the years of watching Ken I’ve missed him saying happy birthday on my birthday every year. I was determined to get it this year, thank you Ken and buff!!!
Im half choctaw and half sioux, and I'm surrounded by other tribal members and most of us cant help but shake our heads in bewildered humor. Some get angry or put off but most of laugh off the foolishness. You can just tell when people like the native "aesthetic" and the ones whose heart is in it. It feels silly to see a 1 percent native wanting to be called chief by his friends, coworkers, straight up strangers and we laugh at it too but it happens all the time and i personally laugh it off and mind my own business with that nonsense lol
What would you considered me then? Great grandma was full blood. Grandpa was half. Dad was a 1/4. Other grandpa had at least 1/4 in him too. Am I not allowed to celebrate both sides of my family? The Indian and Irish parts.
You guys are getting me through the loss of my mom rn. I have watched the old gypsy/dr phil videos more than a few times. Thank you both for the amazing content 🙌🏾
Sorry for your loss, I know what you are going through as I lost my dad and I want to let you know that you will never forget her but it becomes easier and you will be happy again.
I can understand wanting to explore your ancestors culture or honour your partners culture. But as an Australian with ancestors who came over as convicts, I’m not gonna call myself Irish/Scottish and slap on a kilt and grab some bagpipes - let alone theme my wedding around it. This is absurd.
I know so many people who have no scottish ancestry but go crazy for the pipes at their wedding... but I'm half scottish and play in a pipe band, and know a lot of wedding pipers lol
I am 90% ojibwe from Canada....this makes me so sad 😂 head dresses are usually worn by leaders-and each feather is earned by doing honorable acts for their family or community, and What makes me laugh is the fact the straw is the deal breaker for this chick. We use either treated tree roots or regular leather..😂🤦♀️.
As a white passing with proof of my heritage I half shake my head and laugh at these people and also half angry because they’re the reason I am often not believed about my heritage without hearing the fact I do have actual proof of my tribes and heritage while also having connections to the ceremonies and cultures. I added some of my tribe’s ceremonies into my wedding and well… they had the blanket but if were truly honoring their heritage those headdresses and dress would had not been present at all. *sigh*
This. As the whitest cousin, it can be weird, lol. I either am challenged often about my heritage by strangers or racists will say things blatantly to my face, expecting me to be on the same page as them 😅
I’m mixed Nigerian and European. My whole life my family SWORE up and down we had Native American in our bloodline. The DNA test determined that was a lie 😂
@@smithsmith1956 thankfully, not mad! They just said “But Grandma so and so said *insert generational BS here*. Guess that wasn’t true!!” It was refreshing to be the one to change the family narrative
@@rockinsara94 That's good. I have a friend that did the same as you, but his family got insanely angry about it and took it out on him. As if it was somehow his fault. They eventually got over it and pulled their heads out of the rear ends. They were REALLY invested in it to the point it was part of the family identity.
I've lost count of how many people that live near me (in the South) that claimed to have Cherokee in them... and then get the Ancestry DNA test back showing it isn't true and how much they don't want to talk about it all of a sudden.
I heard a theory once, that claiming native ancestry for white folks is a way to cover that they have African ancestry due to the legacy of slavery/Jim Crow. I don't know how true that is for everyone but it does seem like it would be a good cover in certain ways.
@@crimsoncockatoo461 it's definitely not "many" Americans. It only seems like many because it was better to claim that then claiming African ancestry for years due to heavy racism towards black and the fact for long time you only needed 1% of African ancestry to be considered black thus allowing people to discriminate against you. So naturally people over time made up stories of having native ancestry, thus effectively brainwashing generations of Americans. All I can say is if you don't have any native culture in your family that you are aware of, if you have no clear example of anyone in your family that was native without doubt (aka records or photo evidence) then most likely you have African DNA.
@@seanbinkley7363if that is true in some cases it was probably a great grandparent who first claimed native ancestry to hide african american heritage and then the kids/grandkids really belived it and went along with it thru the years
@@crimsoncockatoo461 Yep, I've also seen that as well. I one of those shows like "Finding Your Roots" explored that dynamic from the African American side.
I agree with you Ken, but part of the reason some people claim this without proof is that the proof was beaten out of them (litterally and figuratively). My Cherokee female ancestor (my G-G-Grandmother) was named "Sally Lane." This was not her name. We will never know her name. He children never knew it and she never spoke Cherokee to them or was able to tell them much about her life (though obviously, she did in secret which is how we know). She was married off to a white man at 13 by her parents. They wanted to spare her from "the march." Her parents were not spared. We have searched and searched and from what we (didnt) find, it seems that her parents died on the Trail of Tears as they didnt keep up with who died, only those who made it. My family does look native in the face with high cheekbones and the color (except me cuz Im a red-headed genetic freak of nature with no red-haired ancestors, though my bone structure does show it). We have had the tests and have joined the tribes. I do not have the gene due to it being in mitochondrial DNA- my father does though because he is a male in a direct line of females to Sally. Our family- and most of all Sally- was robbed of the opportunity to share and participate in her culture. We talk about it because we dont want her to be forgotten. She was beaten and treated horribly by her "husband" and her parents were marched to death. They were given an impossible choice and they did what kept their daughter alive. But none of that had to happen. I want people to remember the brutality and to understand the pain of the individuals. We are her legacy and if we shut up about it, it dies. My great-grandmother lived to be 101.5 she died when I was 10 and lived next door to us my entire life. My Dad's mom died the night my parents married so Grandma Davis was the only Grandmother I had on my dad's side. She remembered her Grandmother, Sally. She was told those stories directly by her (in secret) and my siblings and cousins and I grew up hearing them from her. She wanted us to remember. She wanted us to know. It always bothered my Great Grandma that Sally never told her her real name. She was too afraid. Think about that- even as an older woman- my Great Grandmother's Grandma was too afraid she would be killed if she told *her name.* (I am aware I'm doing the thing, but we litterally have DNA evidence, are part of a tribe, and have cenus data linking us directly. And yes, I have done 23&me and my dad is my dad) PS that outfit is rude as hell and very ignorant. Though i have shared all of the above info, i would never do something like that. WTF
I have so much respect for your comment and wish to have a better understanding for this exact reason. Thank you for sharing. Such a phenomenal, yet tragic history.
Surprisingly some native American do give birth to red haired. My husband is from one of the tribes from the trail of tears. He has a bit of red hair, none of his family has red hair but he does. Also one of his nephew came out to be 100% Ginger. His mom is Mexican and doesn't have anyone with red hair nor freckles, same with the dad (my brother in law) kid came out fully red headed with freckles. So I won't be surprised to see a native American with red hairm
Oh also I'm part native American and native Mexican, people tell me all the time that my native side shows very clearly. Don't know which side but it's one of them. I forgot what tribe my mom's family is from, my husband grandma has the registration number for her and her family but she's bat shit crazy and believe that the government will take her and all her kids away from her. Even though they are all grown up.
@@HakuFreak19 I'm AT LEAST 1/16th of one tribe. Not sure which tribe but my great-great grandmother was full-blooded. Her name wasn't registered to the tribe's records and she was able to avoid most of the suffering that came from being Native by marrying a white man and not being on the tribal census. Then there's other tribal blood in me from various other tribes but less than 1/16 from each tribe. I would do the 23 & Me service for more evidence and to find out just what all I have, but I can't afford to...
I'm 3/4 Oglala Lakota and I've lived on a reservation my entire life. It's kind of insulting when people who are not involved in the culture or who aren't aware of real issues that effect native americans go aorund and parade their identity. Also only men wore headdresses.
I grew up in NC near Cherokee. Funny they think this dress is "Cherokee": it's farthest from-it's a stereotype from the plains region. My mom also had a friend who claimed to be part Cherokee. As memory serves, she was trying to prove blood percentage from genealogy (this was before DNA was so common). She was trying to prove her percentage for the money.
"My doughter is not a gypsy princess in that dress,. She is a cherokee goddess!!"... 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ I feel so sorry for all the natives who are watching this
The Native American headdresses i've always thought are so beautiful. I wish there was a way to wear them as an appreciation to their culture but uhhhh yeah there's not haha
Find a cool headdress from one of your own ancestor's cultures, and wear that one! There are so many fabulous headdress traditions from around the world, and on every continent! I'm sure there is a beautiful one you could wear to honor your own heritage. :)
I mean, no it's not. If you wear it to honor a culture cuz you find it interesting... nothing's wrong with it. I wonder if you also disapprove of people getting tribal-pattern tattooes@@redactedunknownclowngod2875
I can very heavily relate with what they’re saying In this one, my step mom is from southern Oklahoma and she’s 1/4th Native American, you CANNOT go 1 day without saying something about it. It’s a lot more understandable considering they have actual benefits and Native American cards. My half brother on the other side of my family is also 1/4th Native American and he’s getting like 25k the second he turns 18.
I bet it’s annoying af. I will say that I’ll give them some slack since it’s 1/4. That’s a grandparent. Actually, I’d give them some slack IF they actually know anything about their heritage
@@tealablu3759 yes, but also, everyone says 1/4…every now and then you’ll hear a 1/16 or whatever but you hear so many 1/4 that you truly don’t know who to believe. Tho most do(from my encounters) know a fair bit about their heritage.
My nana and papa were supposedly native and i think my mom is like 16% or something but we're honestly white through and through lol, we've never claimed it. My stepdad is full Heiltsuk though, his dad was the chief until he passed away recently. Seeing some of the culture through his side of the family has been really cool.
A-lot of people in the comments mention when they meet someone and say they are Native American, the other claims to be Native as well. So is that how you introduce yourself to everyone or do people just rudely ask you that right away like they have no manners?! 🤷🏻
@@ignisvis8867Bc we live in one of the most culturally diverse countries in the world. But even other countries talk about their culture all the time, whenever they do it though its "inspirational and insightful".
Yep, my grandma found out we like 20% and all of the sudden it was wall to wall tacky infomercial "native" stuff. She also had a clown room, which was actually neat if your into macabre stuff.
As a Metis person who grew up on a reservation, blood percentage is a big decider in what activities or beliefs you are allowed to participate in. I am under 25%, which meant I was unable to be around burning sage, not allowed to maintain eye contact with elders, and was unable to have my hair braided with the other girls. I'm surprised those people didn't get hurt for having a wedding like this. I'd have been beaten to a pulp! Lol
@@101spacemonkey It is a shame. I always wanted to take part in that portion of my heritage. But being around a quarter and having pasty skin, it's seen as disrespectful to certain things. As you're seen as a product of colonization. It was upsetting, but I had to respect it.
@sasquatchdonut2674 I agree but it must be respected. As white passing metis are seen as the embodiment of colonization. Part of being white is respecting their decision.
1:40 I felt that. My grandmother always told me I had Cherokee in me, I traced my pedigree and stuff back and found it wasn’t the case. I did find a few Native American people but they married Europeans, then their kids married other Europeans etc. same goes for being Irish, I was told I was and after research found it’s very minimalist. I’m more Scottish and Hispanic than Irish!
Just because you had a distant relative that was Native American, doesn’t mean you are for say. You’re 50% each parent, as you travel up the pedigree it’ll be more diluted. Each grandparent would be 1/4, then greats are 1/8th so on.
War bonnets were for war and were not causal day-wear, they were not (typically) worn by women, and were never worn by the Cherokee. They were worn exclusively by Crow Plains Cree, Sioux, Cheyenne, and Blackfoot. They were the equivalent of a General's or Commander's uniform, and worn exclusively by the "Chief" or their selected Commander.
I'm part native, Ojibwe to be specific. I say part because I'm less than 20% but I have been raised by my foster mom learning about that side of me. If you looked at me you'd think I was just white. You'd be amazed how many of us are trying to reconnect to our culture. And yeah....this bride should have done more research before picking that outfit for her wedding..... also that pocahontas part...... I have nothing good to say about that part.... if you don't know the real story of pocahontas please do some research on Matoaka and hopefully you'll understand why that shouldn't have been something they said. Rip Matoaka may you one day find your way home ❤
Thanks to dna testing today, I was able to find out I'm 48% native, and every since I shared that with my family (from the South).. yeah. Yeah. The Southern obsession to be native is there.
I grew up in Michigan and the only diversity my tiny highschool had was student who were INCREDIBLY proud of being a small percentage Native American. And the kid who bragged about havinf the highest percentage still wasnt native enough for college scholarships or any of the other assistance they give.
I grew up in the south but have lived in the PNW for over a decade. Try that “I’m 2% NA” shit over here and you’ll get laughed at hard af anywhere near the reservations 😂
Given my half Hispanic heritage (decended from Spanish colonists from what is now New Mexico, the other side is Czech) I'm probably like 1/256th Navajo, I know there's some but its really far back, but I do have some cousins that are full or half Tohono O'odham. Nobody really talks about it, in the family, at most we go to the San Xavier Reservation to visit the mission when visiting family.
@@Infamous-gu9ht As a Native American and African American, I wouldnt be "hurt" at the wrong term being used but rather disappointed. We live in a age of information and theres no reason for the right term to not be know besides pure ignorance.
@@Infamous-gu9ht what??🤣 I wouldnt be butt hurt its just nice to see cause nobody ever uses it correctly. Enjoy being miserable talking shit to strangers on a positive comment you must have a good life😂😂👍🏻
😂😂👏🏻 the ancestors were definitely sabotaging that straw they about to be haunted by some native american spirits and i cant blame them this is so ridiculous lol
I’m from Mississippi and I have never seen anyone try to pass themselves as Native American… but if you bring up being Irish holy cow they act like they themselves traveled to America!!!😂
This is a rumor in my family. That my great-great grandfather was secretly 1/2 or 1/4 Cherokee but never talked about it. Even in the north everyone thinks they’re part Native American. It’s rampant across all of the USA hobestly
My mom's grandmother was full blooded, very beautiful woman that got to hold me as a baby before she passed. Unfortunately any history of our ancestory died with her. She was "adopted" but if my inkling about the area and historical events / timing is correct. It's probably more apt to say she was taken into my Mom's family. I learned a lot about her tribe, as much as I could but I never go around going "IM PART NATIVE AMERICAN" ... I wish I'd gotten to know her better or that my Grandmother had lived long enough to at the very least told me what she knew. Didn't work out that way though. I see her in my dreams sometimes. I guess the woman's only end life dream was to get to hold me before she passed and she did. Sometimes I feel like she is somewhere watching over me. But I know she wouldn't have any pride in me if I went around pretending to know something about my roots when I don't. Whatever she went through to get "adopted" into this family died with her. I learned as much as I could. That's the maximum amount of respect I can carry. Hope it's good enough for great grandmom
Tbh the dress is super cool looking😂😂idk about “traditional” but like they said they weren’t going for traditional, they wanted a mix of Gypsy with a big on Indian and she did a great job
As someone who grew up in SW Missouri, my parents always told me I was some very small percentage of Cherokee. I took a 23&me test a couple years ago and guess what….I have 0% Native American in my ancestry. 😂 was I shocked? No not at all. why did they ever think this? I bet if this couple took DNA tests, they would get similar results.
This is the only time I've ever said anything about it, but my great grandmother on my moms side is full blood Cherokee and my great grandmother on my dad's side is full blood Choctaw (Not too uncommon where I live cause its on the border with Oklahoma on the trail of tears).Their husbands were german and irish respectively. I have never claimed to be Native American and it saddens me to see others with less heritage than me do it. I'd rather be Irish or German than take something from someone that's been taken from more than they ever should have been.
It’s because once you leave the reservations, you aren’t normally allowed to return to the tribe. It’s what happened to my great grandma. I’m not sure if that changed or not now a days. It’s upsetting though we aren’t allowed to celebrate part of our blood because we are white.
The same thing happens with people with gypsy ancestors, My grandad was Roma but I don’t claim to be a gypsy, it’s just in my dna but I find learning about the culture and traditions interesting.
I wouldn't be surprised if the husband was the one who thought he had Cherokee in him. When I lived in Eastern Kentucky a lot of the guys there were obsessed with having any Native American in them and would act if it was their heritage.
You know what’s ironic? You can absolutely use straw to tie things and have it stay. However, you need the knowledge of how that’s held by the people these traditions belong to. It’s easy to look up or ask someone, if you put in the effort to do so. You have to braid or ply it a certain way, which takes effort and time. So, it takes knowledge, effort, and time. None of which were ever going to be present in this wedding. Just entitlement and aesthetic with no context or appreciation.
This is why I never claim Cherokee blood 💀 my dad’s side was more native than my mom’s but I’m white as paper. The only thing taught to me was how to make moccasins as a kid, which I still don’t know how to feel about. I do my research now as an adult and only say I have Cherokee ancestors but I’m mostly Irish. It annoys me to no end when people say they’re native but they’re not even 2%. At best, I might be 1/16th lmao I’m not gonna disrespect an entire group of people by saying I’m Cherokee. And I sure as hell wouldn’t base a wedding dress off of it, nor would I ever wear a headdress.
i am mixed native to the point i am enrolled in a tribe and they sent me covid relief. was super nice of them to help us. its like not as high as a percentage as you might think. consider that most of our family (native family) was murked apparently and it makes sense. idk about these people; personally i think that would be the least of the issues i have with gypsy culture. lol
The problem with wanting paperwork, and this comes from an Aboriginal Australian so might not be a direct comparison, is that the paperwork simply doesnt exist. There was such an extensive campaign to purge aboriginals from the country that there was an active effort to not record anything in relation to ethnicity beyond being accepted by the community as a member
Okay but I do think the dress was pretty, way prettier than the other dresses they always show on this show. With most dresses those girls can’t even normally walk because the dresses are way to big and heavy😂
I watched this episode on HBOMAX and the drama was while the guy was courting the girl. That’s where we saw the usual HE IS NOT A GYPSY stuff from the mom. If I remember right the mom made him stay the night outside in the woods with a candle and if he kept to candle lit till morning then he could marry the daughter😅
The wedding outfits were ridiculous. I’m Comanche and Eastern Band Cherokee, and not only are headdresses worn by men as you mentioned, but in addition, they aren’t even a part of Cherokee regalia! They’re plains tribes regalia.
That's what I thought! The woman have a much different headdress right, like more cylindrical? That's what I remember from a post a friend of mine shared of an event she attended.
2:20 A childhood friend of mine always claimed he was part Native American and pointed to a tomahawk heirloom, that’d supposedly been passed down through his family, as proof. At some point around high school, someone convinced the family to get it authenticated and appraised for insurance purposes and to see if it had any historical relevance to the tribe/was possibly some priceless artifact that needed to be properly preserved. So, they took it to a tribe historian, a documented descendent from the tribe, who knew the tribe’s history front to back- like the literal #1 guy for all things about this tribe. The guy took one look at it and immediately knew it was bogus, like, a roadside attraction thing-bogus, probably made by a white guy with zero blood ties to the natives, and sold as an “”authentic Indian artifact”” on the side of the road way back in the day. So, I guess the story goes: the kid’s grandfather randomly came across it in the house when he was a little boy and asked his father (my friend’s great-grandfather) about it and was told some fanciful story (probably entirely made up just as an intriguing story to tell a little kid, not thinking anything of it/expecting him to forget about it or to bring it up when he’s older and tell him the truth then) about how it had been “handed down in the family for generations, yada yada yada.” Then it was put back and forgotten about until after the great-grandfather had died and the grandfather rediscovered it and took possession of it. It was later handed down from the grandfather to the kid’s father with the belief it was some family heirloom, until they decided to get it appraised. I haven’t seen/spoken to him at all since high school, so I’ve no idea if they ever did DNA tests to see if they have any native blood. Genealogical DNA tests were a thing then, but they were super expensive. If they’ve done one since, now that they’re cheaper, I doubt they have anything more than 0.01%, if they have any at all…
Minnesota Public Radio did a story recently about Anishinaabe and Ojibwe tribal members in northern Minnesota who are starting to reconnect with their Scandinavian ancestry and heritage. It was interesting to see the “reverse” study instead of so many of my fellow white people trying to claim an ancestry that is not theirs to claim.
I’m half Hopi and I remember an extremely Caucasian, blonde haired, blue eyed coworker asking me about my last name, it’s very Native American 😂, and he was telling me he’s some crazy small percentage but he felt he was fully entitled to all the benefits having roll numbers gets you 😂 he deserved free college and allat 😂 I just looked at him 😒
You can't really judge someone based on looks alone when it comes to ethnicity - both my siblings are half Native and look VERY similar to me, who is almost 100% Slavic heritage😂 I also have a friend who is registered with, ironically, the Cherokee and is whiter than me with light red hair. So I try not to judge on looks, cause genetics are weird. BUT this whole thing was an atrocity on every level and I'm ashamed on behalf of white people, holy crap
Bro so many people say they’re Cherokee and I’m from SC so def hear it all the time. Surprisingly i dont have it in my blood to my knowledge my aunt and uncle do by my mom had a different father. My roommate throughout college a little after was Lumbee but he was legit
I'm from the south so I can relate to their rant. My great grandfather is 100% Cherokee and my great aunts and uncles, even my grandmother and my dad, share their traits but I would never.... I got married in a small chapel in Vegas like a true American. 😂
My grandmother was half Hispanic and half native. My dad got her darker skin, I didn’t not get her darker skin. I get it, not all of us have dark skin, but at least I still have native features. I’m not some blonde blue eye white af person that has 1% native. I actually come from a tribe. Not Cherokee. It’s so upsetting seeing people like them insult the culture they destroyed. They never mention that the 1% comes from someone raping a native girl…..
yeah, and these people in the vid with the wedding dress didn't even use real turquoise, granted it's VERY expensive, but if you really want to try at least make the stones look real? idk it was the first thing i noticed
I'm a quarter Cherokee, and as much as I am proud of that, I don't claim anything, since I was not registered with my grandmother's tribe. I'd love to learn about the culture more, however.
I heard somewhere that whenever someone said their father was cherokee, it was like slang for leaving. I guess as generations went on, people started believing it.
also want to point out that no self respecting native family would ever let a wedding happen like that lmfao with the headdresses and im almost 100% certain that cherokee never had war bonnets like that. thats like a Plaines native/Lakota style 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I was thinking the same thing! I wouldn't consider myself native, but I have older family members who were natives. I never grew up in the culture, but I did at least learn a few things here and there. But when they showed that headdress I was like ohhhh nooo please nooo! 😂
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ANYTIME someone says "Im part Cherokee!" I always tell them, "Being conceived in a Jeep does not make you part Cherokee."
....this is why I tend not to mention it, despite having relatives currently living on the res.
Stop! My god this made me holler 😂😂
MY DOGS GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS %0000.1 cheRROKEEEEEEE
My daughter is 1/4 Japanese. When she graduated high school, she wanted to wear kimono. She had been raised with her grandparents her whole life and was a part of the customs and traditions, so her Japanese grandmother helped her with the kimono and all the bits and pieces to put her together. This is what 'honoring culture or tradition' is about, not making a mockery with a costume wedding dress and head dres. The dress may not have been as 'sexy' as she was hoping for if she asked his family to help her, but she would have shown a lot more respect for both his family and his culture.
As a person who is a first gen immigrant who was adopted into a southern family, I can confirm the southern obsession with being part Native American.
My boyfriends southern family had a whole conversation about how much native they had in them and how they have reservations near them. They’re white and blonde lol.
Yep, is very common in America to claim part native American. Main reason comes from people wanting explain away actually having African DNA. It's more likely the person has African DNA, especially in the south, more so than American Indian.
I've been in Tenn since I was 3. And just about everyone claims to have a Cherokee princess ancestor. I however know for fsct that I'm 100% white/European. Not a drop of Native American blood in me.
@@MmntoMorrissonfirst gen means first generation. She's the first to come from one country to a new country. So she's first gen in the country she's living in now
@@MmntoMorrisson first generation means my birth parents have never lived in my current country. (E.g. I was adopted from Russia but my birth parents still live there)
“Leave the natives alone” had me CACKLING 😂
I'm 50% Potawatomi and registered to my tribe. Everybody gets so excited and exclaims they're Native too when they meet me. I dated somebody that had the Cherokee flag tattooed. His mother even asked how to get registered with the tribe. DNA test came back 0.0% Native 😂 why does everybody always say they're Cherokee? There's hundreds of tribes lol
I got to the part with the blue headress. Every feather is blessed and they're sacred. Also as another commenter said they're not worn by women.
I'm not Native at all (here because the potatoes were gone and got jobs in the WV coal mines) and I only figured the headdress was worn by men because I have only seen photos of male chiefs (or high status within the tribes?) wear them. So when I first saw hers I was like "uuuuuuh aside from everything else wrong with this, no?" lol
For some reason I love you put 0.0% instead of 0% like this is how much ZERO percentagethey have in Native DNA, nadda, ZILCH. 0.00000℅
Yeah they just took all the meaning out of the garments….
@@sentientplant9658 Yes. They're worn by the chief at ceremonies. Not everybody is running around in massive amounts of feathers lol
@@Vincisomething hahaha I did that cuz some tests come back 0.1% but it really does rub salt in the wound putting 0.0% 😹
I'm as white as bleached flour, I never want to hear "blinged out Cherokee goddess" ever again in my life😂
My dad being full blooded Cherokee. Whenever I say I am, everyone is like “OHHH ME TOO! My grandma was an Indian princess” 💀
Well that's because there's a million 1/32 Cherokees out there, probably more now that your chief is enrolling descendants of slaves 🤦🏻♂️ which sounds like a good thing until you think about the afrocentrics trying to steal our culture and will use that as a foundation. BTW I'm Acjachemen
Oh and "Prince" is in my username because I like to mess with my sister and tell her we're royalty 🤣 as you know we don't really have princes. That was like Mayans and Aztecs thing
I'm a direct descendant of Chief Run A Muck and Princess Talks Alot.
Tell em your 1/16th White, Papa was an English Chief 🤣
At this point I think we are all “descended” from a “Cherokee princess”. They also like to throw in other famous natives like Pocahontas, Sacagewea and the like.
Being full blood Native American (half Apache/ half Pueblo) I can say being indigenous is more than just blood, it’s about knowing and practicing the culture. Knowing the history and the language of your people. Without that you’re just another face in this world. I also lived in the south for awhile and my boss would always bring up his native side too, so that’s funny that Ken brings that up. But I also hear that from others too when they find out I’m native, Cherokee is the most used 😄
Where I live in Australia, it's very similar.
I agree. Unfortunately, the impact of genocide and assimilation has made it nearly impossible for those separated from their roots to find their way back.
This. My mom's bio dad was Cherokee supposedly, but I wasnt raised in the culture or carry the customs, so I don't really claim it. Though I would like to learn more eventually when u get a chance to look into my family history.
@blinxart9120
My mom's grandfather had about 3/4 Cherokee and I can relate, I'd like to know the customs and the culture. I'd also like to know if there's any truth behind the stories I heard growing up, or if they're just stories 🤔
I'm fairly certain most white people are 1 percent Cherokee xD fr though, I live around native Americans and you are completely right. It's like finding out you are related to a royal family because your great great x20 was royalty. doesn't make you royalty but some people flaunt it. xD
As a florist in my home state, I have seen my fair share of gypsy weddings....But nothing will ever top their funerals. Now thats an event
You can't say this and not give us details!😂
@@mlemgee agreed.. we need some details here.. or an entire TLC show on it.. that would be even better lol
Oh my god. I never thought about the funerals. 😮
We need a My Gypsy Funeral spinoff show lol
We need to know more
Gypsy weddings remind me of those games where you can fully customize your character with THE most random stuff
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Or like the end of a Roblox obby where you try on all the free stuff
A lot of Native American tribes actually used leather or sinew to tie clothing, bracelets, pouches and more. I’ve personally never met or heard of any using straw (knowing it was brittle) for anything other than basket weaving which strengthens the straw with a ton of support lol
i was digging for this comment.. i'm white as can be and even I know straw will not hold without either braiding it or strengthening it somehow.. they literally just took it off a spool and tied it, expecting it to be like a cord of leather or sinew lol
So they want a "traditional Cherokee wedding" with 👓👀 "cowboy/cowgirl" attire as well.... Sure. I'm sure native's of any and every tribe LOVE cowboys.
Well many cowboys were native Americans or black or Mexican/ Spanish descendants.
this shit is too funny 😂😂😂 i’m full Native American , Navajo and Lakota Souix to be exact and you are correct 🤣 if i had a dollar for everytime a white person told me they’re part native i’d be a millionaire
Especially Cherokee, it’s always Cherokee lmaoo, I’m full too, I’m Tutchone and Tlingit and a mix of other nations.
My white friend got her DNA test back the other day. The family lie has been exposed. No Cherokee, no Native American DNA at all. 😂 Why do they lie about it?
@@midnitemanic2795...that doesn't mean none at all, that just means it's nondetectable in her generation
If they had native ancestors 200 years ago, but then never had any other kids with a native after that initial, then the DNA wouldn't be strong enough to be detected, but would still exist
I think it might be a bit of dealing white guilt. Can’t have guilt if we’re part of the people who were victims of the genocide.
@kaimorris4777 They say they're part injun.
She took the whole I'm an Indian princess to a whole new level 💀
Native*
Literally
@@Seeker4you2 Indian*
@@Seeker4you2*Hindu, not all natives are Indian you know.
I agree with you Ken. My family is supposedly part native American, don't know what tribe, but I've never actually claimed it because it's one so little and two I don't have any paperwork to prove nor do I really care to. Not saying I don't think the culture is fascinating, but not gonna claim it myself like these people.
Exactly supposedly my great-grandmother was half Cherokee but.... Nothing shows up on DNA tests. The photos of her I've been told you can see she is half native. *shrug* This video though.... What was the dress maker thinking....
Edit: Yes because STRAW can totally hold a corset tight as they are supposed to be 🤦🏼♀️
Same
Same, tests show only over 10% and def dont look it either, plus being adopted its hard to really get any info especially since the test i took is regionally based so ive got like 3 possibilities on their map, but since i dont wanna be "that person" i just like appreciating the cultures when i can. unlike the ppl in the vid tho omg that was pain 🤣
same here lol.
Most families that can trace their lineage in the States to pre-1850’s sadly have Native American genes. A lot of rape, and forced adoption of Native American children to “white” families caused this.
But don’t tell 50% of the US population, that’s Critical Race Theory.
As someone who works in the crazy, busy wedding industry.... when she solemnly said, "If the straw doesn't hold up... the wedding's rUiNeD," I lost ALL air in my lungs laughing suddenly. xDDD
I have no indigenous ancestry, but I do have a funny genealogy story:
My great Uncle has always had a lot of pride in his Greek heritage and was very adamant that he was Greek, NOT Italian. His daughter gave him a 23&Me kit as a gift for a birthday to trace his lineage and find out more about his family history.
....He was 0% Greek.
Turns out his grandma moved from Sicily a long time ago and just told everybody she was Greek, then passed the same fixation on to her kids.
He was FURIOUS and the whole fiasco is supposed to be a big secret in my family, apparently. However, Great Aunt told everybody, so we all secretly know and just don't bring it up. He hasn't gone off about "Greek pride" in awhile though...
That’s hilarious. There are parts of Sicily that are very Greek-like culturally, though, due to Greece being one of the many cultures that occupied Sicily. It’s possible that side really did descend from Greece centuries ago, but it’s too far back for a DNA test to determine.
My dad’s side of the family is also from Sicily. We did DNA tests because my maternal grandmother is adopted, and it actually came back that my dad’s side is part Sicilian, part Middle Eastern, and small amounts of other islands across the Mediterranean and even North Africa. He wasn’t happy either, but anyone from the coastal Mediterranean should assume they’re a bit of a mixed bag.
I see the title and i just get flashbacks to the southpark episode with randy doing a "dna and me" test
Randy is 2.8% neandethal and goes beserk blaming people of wiping out his ancestors etc 😂
As a Native i think this shit is pretty funny 😂 some people just look ridiculous in our attire (fake or otherwise)
Regalia not attire
@@crosales8184 I mean if you want to play semantics, regalia is under the category of attire friend.
You just had to define it exactly, didn't you, mate? @@crosales8184
I don't have any tribes blood that I know of, but I grew up in New Mexico surrounded by Navajo and I have seen plenty of tourists who prove your point exactly.
Like yt people wearing box braids
I have Cherokee on both sides of my family. At Powwows, we have this lady who wants everyone to think she's Native too, but we all know she isn't and we let her do her thing. This dress is SO outside of anything we would ever wear, I sent my mom a screengrab of it and she's still laughing..
The wedding that broke the straws back
God damn it 😂
At least they remembered the ancient Cherokee wedding tradition of the Cake Fight
Out of all the years of watching Ken I’ve missed him saying happy birthday on my birthday every year. I was determined to get it this year, thank you Ken and buff!!!
Hbd🎉!
Happy Birthday!!
Happy happy birthday!
I remember when he finally said Happy Birthday on my birthday! It was so great! Happy birthday fellow summer baby!
Happy Birthday 🎂 toooo yooooou
Im half choctaw and half sioux, and I'm surrounded by other tribal members and most of us cant help but shake our heads in bewildered humor. Some get angry or put off but most of laugh off the foolishness. You can just tell when people like the native "aesthetic" and the ones whose heart is in it. It feels silly to see a 1 percent native wanting to be called chief by his friends, coworkers, straight up strangers and we laugh at it too but it happens all the time and i personally laugh it off and mind my own business with that nonsense lol
wanting to be called chief.... 🤢 what in the world 😭 full blown narcissist, what gives a random ass person the right to be called chief like what
😂 I honestly would blood test. Every last one of them on 23 and Me just to say "prove it right now."
What would you considered me then? Great grandma was full blood. Grandpa was half. Dad was a 1/4. Other grandpa had at least 1/4 in him too. Am I not allowed to celebrate both sides of my family? The Indian and Irish parts.
Bro, Sioux? Tell me you're lying without telling me lol
@@Chaka2225I'm sorry, how am I lying? What about being part Sioux is a lie to you?
You guys are getting me through the loss of my mom rn. I have watched the old gypsy/dr phil videos more than a few times. Thank you both for the amazing content 🙌🏾
Sending a hug (if you do hugs) 💗 I’m sorry for your loss
Sorry for your loss, I know what you are going through as I lost my dad and I want to let you know that you will never forget her but it becomes easier and you will be happy again.
My condolences. These guys have gotten me through a lot of life, prayers for your healing and fond memories ❤
I'm so sorry for your loss. RIP momma toast
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I can understand wanting to explore your ancestors culture or honour your partners culture. But as an Australian with ancestors who came over as convicts, I’m not gonna call myself Irish/Scottish and slap on a kilt and grab some bagpipes - let alone theme my wedding around it. This is absurd.
I know so many people who have no scottish ancestry but go crazy for the pipes at their wedding... but I'm half scottish and play in a pipe band, and know a lot of wedding pipers lol
Being native this actually pissed me off and I laughed the whole time.
I am 90% ojibwe from Canada....this makes me so sad 😂 head dresses are usually worn by leaders-and each feather is earned by doing honorable acts for their family or community, and What makes me laugh is the fact the straw is the deal breaker for this chick. We use either treated tree roots or regular leather..😂🤦♀️.
As a white passing with proof of my heritage I half shake my head and laugh at these people and also half angry because they’re the reason I am often not believed about my heritage without hearing the fact I do have actual proof of my tribes and heritage while also having connections to the ceremonies and cultures. I added some of my tribe’s ceremonies into my wedding and well… they had the blanket but if were truly honoring their heritage those headdresses and dress would had not been present at all. *sigh*
This
So you have connections to your tribes and ceremonies? I think that's so rare..
Cap 😂
This. As the whitest cousin, it can be weird, lol. I either am challenged often about my heritage by strangers or racists will say things blatantly to my face, expecting me to be on the same page as them 😅
Passing White?! you are white, no need to be upset over it, embrace it!
I’m mixed Nigerian and European. My whole life my family SWORE up and down we had Native American in our bloodline.
The DNA test determined that was a lie 😂
How mad did they get when you showed them?
@@smithsmith1956 thankfully, not mad! They just said “But Grandma so and so said *insert generational BS here*. Guess that wasn’t true!!”
It was refreshing to be the one to change the family narrative
@@rockinsara94 That's good. I have a friend that did the same as you, but his family got insanely angry about it and took it out on him. As if it was somehow his fault. They eventually got over it and pulled their heads out of the rear ends. They were REALLY invested in it to the point it was part of the family identity.
lol same here 😂
I've lost count of how many people that live near me (in the South) that claimed to have Cherokee in them... and then get the Ancestry DNA test back showing it isn't true and how much they don't want to talk about it all of a sudden.
I heard a theory once, that claiming native ancestry for white folks is a way to cover that they have African ancestry due to the legacy of slavery/Jim Crow. I don't know how true that is for everyone but it does seem like it would be a good cover in certain ways.
@@crimsoncockatoo461 it's definitely not "many" Americans. It only seems like many because it was better to claim that then claiming African ancestry for years due to heavy racism towards black and the fact for long time you only needed 1% of African ancestry to be considered black thus allowing people to discriminate against you. So naturally people over time made up stories of having native ancestry, thus effectively brainwashing generations of Americans. All I can say is if you don't have any native culture in your family that you are aware of, if you have no clear example of anyone in your family that was native without doubt (aka records or photo evidence) then most likely you have African DNA.
@@seanbinkley7363I follow r/23andMe and you see this happen a lot. A lot of the time, it's African DNA, not Native.
@@seanbinkley7363if that is true in some cases it was probably a great grandparent who first claimed native ancestry to hide african american heritage and then the kids/grandkids really belived it and went along with it thru the years
@@crimsoncockatoo461 Yep, I've also seen that as well. I one of those shows like "Finding Your Roots" explored that dynamic from the African American side.
THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE WEDDING DRESSES BACK!!! Wow 😂
I agree with you Ken, but part of the reason some people claim this without proof is that the proof was beaten out of them (litterally and figuratively). My Cherokee female ancestor (my G-G-Grandmother) was named "Sally Lane." This was not her name. We will never know her name. He children never knew it and she never spoke Cherokee to them or was able to tell them much about her life (though obviously, she did in secret which is how we know). She was married off to a white man at 13 by her parents. They wanted to spare her from "the march." Her parents were not spared. We have searched and searched and from what we (didnt) find, it seems that her parents died on the Trail of Tears as they didnt keep up with who died, only those who made it. My family does look native in the face with high cheekbones and the color (except me cuz Im a red-headed genetic freak of nature with no red-haired ancestors, though my bone structure does show it). We have had the tests and have joined the tribes. I do not have the gene due to it being in mitochondrial DNA- my father does though because he is a male in a direct line of females to Sally. Our family- and most of all Sally- was robbed of the opportunity to share and participate in her culture. We talk about it because we dont want her to be forgotten. She was beaten and treated horribly by her "husband" and her parents were marched to death. They were given an impossible choice and they did what kept their daughter alive. But none of that had to happen. I want people to remember the brutality and to understand the pain of the individuals. We are her legacy and if we shut up about it, it dies. My great-grandmother lived to be 101.5 she died when I was 10 and lived next door to us my entire life. My Dad's mom died the night my parents married so Grandma Davis was the only Grandmother I had on my dad's side. She remembered her Grandmother, Sally. She was told those stories directly by her (in secret) and my siblings and cousins and I grew up hearing them from her. She wanted us to remember. She wanted us to know. It always bothered my Great Grandma that Sally never told her her real name. She was too afraid. Think about that- even as an older woman- my Great Grandmother's Grandma was too afraid she would be killed if she told *her name.*
(I am aware I'm doing the thing, but we litterally have DNA evidence, are part of a tribe, and have cenus data linking us directly. And yes, I have done 23&me and my dad is my dad)
PS that outfit is rude as hell and very ignorant. Though i have shared all of the above info, i would never do something like that. WTF
I have so much respect for your comment and wish to have a better understanding for this exact reason. Thank you for sharing. Such a phenomenal, yet tragic history.
Thank you for telling yours and Sally’s story
Surprisingly some native American do give birth to red haired. My husband is from one of the tribes from the trail of tears. He has a bit of red hair, none of his family has red hair but he does. Also one of his nephew came out to be 100% Ginger. His mom is Mexican and doesn't have anyone with red hair nor freckles, same with the dad (my brother in law) kid came out fully red headed with freckles. So I won't be surprised to see a native American with red hairm
Oh also I'm part native American and native Mexican, people tell me all the time that my native side shows very clearly. Don't know which side but it's one of them. I forgot what tribe my mom's family is from, my husband grandma has the registration number for her and her family but she's bat shit crazy and believe that the government will take her and all her kids away from her. Even though they are all grown up.
@@HakuFreak19 I'm AT LEAST 1/16th of one tribe. Not sure which tribe but my great-great grandmother was full-blooded. Her name wasn't registered to the tribe's records and she was able to avoid most of the suffering that came from being Native by marrying a white man and not being on the tribal census. Then there's other tribal blood in me from various other tribes but less than 1/16 from each tribe.
I would do the 23 & Me service for more evidence and to find out just what all I have, but I can't afford to...
I'm 3/4 Oglala Lakota and I've lived on a reservation my entire life. It's kind of insulting when people who are not involved in the culture or who aren't aware of real issues that effect native americans go aorund and parade their identity. Also only men wore headdresses.
Just ask them if they're on a Role and if they say "what's a Role" you know they are lying.
I grew up in NC near Cherokee. Funny they think this dress is "Cherokee": it's farthest from-it's a stereotype from the plains region. My mom also had a friend who claimed to be part Cherokee. As memory serves, she was trying to prove blood percentage from genealogy (this was before DNA was so common). She was trying to prove her percentage for the money.
"My doughter is not a gypsy princess in that dress,. She is a cherokee goddess!!"... 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ I feel so sorry for all the natives who are watching this
I have learnt so much about Native American culture from this video.
The Native American headdresses i've always thought are so beautiful. I wish there was a way to wear them as an appreciation to their culture but uhhhh yeah there's not haha
Ya there is, you wear them
no, they exist for a reason and it's wrong to wear something so meaningful and important when you've done nothing to earn it.
@@redactedunknownclowngod2875 you didn't earn the phone you are posting on.
Go engineer one and get back to us nerd
Find a cool headdress from one of your own ancestor's cultures, and wear that one! There are so many fabulous headdress traditions from around the world, and on every continent! I'm sure there is a beautiful one you could wear to honor your own heritage. :)
I mean, no it's not. If you wear it to honor a culture cuz you find it interesting... nothing's wrong with it. I wonder if you also disapprove of people getting tribal-pattern tattooes@@redactedunknownclowngod2875
I can very heavily relate with what they’re saying In this one, my step mom is from southern Oklahoma and she’s 1/4th Native American, you CANNOT go 1 day without saying something about it. It’s a lot more understandable considering they have actual benefits and Native American cards. My half brother on the other side of my family is also 1/4th Native American and he’s getting like 25k the second he turns 18.
Southern Oklahoma 10000% 🤣never have to wonder because they’ll tell you one way or another
I bet it’s annoying af. I will say that I’ll give them some slack since it’s 1/4. That’s a grandparent.
Actually, I’d give them some slack IF they actually know anything about their heritage
@@tealablu3759 yes, but also, everyone says 1/4…every now and then you’ll hear a 1/16 or whatever but you hear so many 1/4 that you truly don’t know who to believe. Tho most do(from my encounters) know a fair bit about their heritage.
@@flyfish697lmao Oklahoman here too there is a huge amount of people who claim to be native.
My nana and papa were supposedly native and i think my mom is like 16% or something but we're honestly white through and through lol, we've never claimed it. My stepdad is full Heiltsuk though, his dad was the chief until he passed away recently. Seeing some of the culture through his side of the family has been really cool.
A-lot of people in the comments mention when they meet someone and say they are Native American, the other claims to be Native as well. So is that how you introduce yourself to everyone or do people just rudely ask you that right away like they have no manners?! 🤷🏻
I once was having a normal convo. Didn't mention my heritage at all. And this guy goes "what are you? Cherokee?"
@@tigerlilylexxiI'm surprised you didn't tell him first.
I really don't understand this obsession about heritage that americans have
@@ignisvis8867Bc we live in one of the most culturally diverse countries in the world. But even other countries talk about their culture all the time, whenever they do it though its "inspirational and insightful".
It's just the same as everyone who has to tell everyone they're gay or whatever when they first meet people... stupid.
Yep, my grandma found out we like 20% and all of the sudden it was wall to wall tacky infomercial "native" stuff. She also had a clown room, which was actually neat if your into macabre stuff.
As a Metis person who grew up on a reservation, blood percentage is a big decider in what activities or beliefs you are allowed to participate in. I am under 25%, which meant I was unable to be around burning sage, not allowed to maintain eye contact with elders, and was unable to have my hair braided with the other girls. I'm surprised those people didn't get hurt for having a wedding like this. I'd have been beaten to a pulp! Lol
That seems like a shame 😕 25% can happen in two generations
@@101spacemonkey It is a shame. I always wanted to take part in that portion of my heritage. But being around a quarter and having pasty skin, it's seen as disrespectful to certain things. As you're seen as a product of colonization. It was upsetting, but I had to respect it.
Well the bright side is, you can get your hair braided with other people because other cultures do it, too! :D@@jamieleigh1269
That’s kinda effed up imo
@sasquatchdonut2674 I agree but it must be respected. As white passing metis are seen as the embodiment of colonization. Part of being white is respecting their decision.
1:40 I felt that. My grandmother always told me I had Cherokee in me, I traced my pedigree and stuff back and found it wasn’t the case. I did find a few Native American people but they married Europeans, then their kids married other Europeans etc. same goes for being Irish, I was told I was and after research found it’s very minimalist. I’m more Scottish and Hispanic than Irish!
Just because you had a distant relative that was Native American, doesn’t mean you are for say. You’re 50% each parent, as you travel up the pedigree it’ll be more diluted. Each grandparent would be 1/4, then greats are 1/8th so on.
@@FreedomRanger42069exactly
braid the straw and tie the corset with it. -- wait why am i trying to help them lmao.
War bonnets were for war and were not causal day-wear, they were not (typically) worn by women, and were never worn by the Cherokee. They were worn exclusively by Crow Plains Cree, Sioux, Cheyenne, and Blackfoot. They were the equivalent of a General's or Commander's uniform, and worn exclusively by the "Chief" or their selected Commander.
I'm part native, Ojibwe to be specific. I say part because I'm less than 20% but I have been raised by my foster mom learning about that side of me. If you looked at me you'd think I was just white. You'd be amazed how many of us are trying to reconnect to our culture.
And yeah....this bride should have done more research before picking that outfit for her wedding..... also that pocahontas part...... I have nothing good to say about that part.... if you don't know the real story of pocahontas please do some research on Matoaka and hopefully you'll understand why that shouldn't have been something they said.
Rip Matoaka may you one day find your way home ❤
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Thanks to dna testing today, I was able to find out I'm 48% native, and every since I shared that with my family (from the South).. yeah. Yeah. The Southern obsession to be native is there.
As a real native, lios em chiokoe uttessiavu (thank you) for the laugh I just let out after watching this damn video 🤣
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@@rain1676 I love u too xoxo
I grew up in Michigan and the only diversity my tiny highschool had was student who were INCREDIBLY proud of being a small percentage Native American. And the kid who bragged about havinf the highest percentage still wasnt native enough for college scholarships or any of the other assistance they give.
I grew up in the south but have lived in the PNW for over a decade. Try that “I’m 2% NA” shit over here and you’ll get laughed at hard af anywhere near the reservations 😂
I’ll never get tired of watching you two have a blast together
Given my half Hispanic heritage (decended from Spanish colonists from what is now New Mexico, the other side is Czech) I'm probably like 1/256th Navajo, I know there's some but its really far back, but I do have some cousins that are full or half Tohono O'odham. Nobody really talks about it, in the family, at most we go to the San Xavier Reservation to visit the mission when visiting family.
Thank you guys for using the correct term of Native American, keep up the great content!
Thank you for letting us know you'd be butthurt otherwise
@@Infamous-gu9ht edge lord alert!!! lmao
@@Infamous-gu9htColumbus ain’t going to call you back bro
@@Infamous-gu9ht As a Native American and African American, I wouldnt be "hurt" at the wrong term being used but rather disappointed. We live in a age of information and theres no reason for the right term to not be know besides pure ignorance.
@@Infamous-gu9ht what??🤣 I wouldnt be butt hurt its just nice to see cause nobody ever uses it correctly. Enjoy being miserable talking shit to strangers on a positive comment you must have a good life😂😂👍🏻
😂😂👏🏻 the ancestors were definitely sabotaging that straw they about to be haunted by some native american spirits and i cant blame them this is so ridiculous lol
I’m from Mississippi and I have never seen anyone try to pass themselves as Native American… but if you bring up being Irish holy cow they act like they themselves traveled to America!!!😂
omg it's pocket-handbag, princess of the fakenatives-tribe!
Bruh...the title...i almost choked on my food here 😂
This is a rumor in my family. That my great-great grandfather was secretly 1/2 or 1/4 Cherokee but never talked about it. Even in the north everyone thinks they’re part Native American. It’s rampant across all of the USA hobestly
My mom's grandmother was full blooded, very beautiful woman that got to hold me as a baby before she passed. Unfortunately any history of our ancestory died with her. She was "adopted" but if my inkling about the area and historical events / timing is correct. It's probably more apt to say she was taken into my Mom's family. I learned a lot about her tribe, as much as I could but I never go around going "IM PART NATIVE AMERICAN" ... I wish I'd gotten to know her better or that my Grandmother had lived long enough to at the very least told me what she knew. Didn't work out that way though. I see her in my dreams sometimes. I guess the woman's only end life dream was to get to hold me before she passed and she did. Sometimes I feel like she is somewhere watching over me. But I know she wouldn't have any pride in me if I went around pretending to know something about my roots when I don't. Whatever she went through to get "adopted" into this family died with her. I learned as much as I could. That's the maximum amount of respect I can carry. Hope it's good enough for great grandmom
Tbh the dress is super cool looking😂😂idk about “traditional” but like they said they weren’t going for traditional, they wanted a mix of Gypsy with a big on Indian and she did a great job
As someone who grew up in SW Missouri, my parents always told me I was some very small percentage of Cherokee. I took a 23&me test a couple years ago and guess what….I have 0% Native American in my ancestry. 😂 was I shocked? No not at all. why did they ever think this?
I bet if this couple took DNA tests, they would get similar results.
Reminds me of the episode of the office where Michael claims to be 2/15 Native American lol
Two favorite commentators on the best show to watch through them 😂😂😂
Bro looking like Sonic with that headress!! 😂🤣
This is the only time I've ever said anything about it, but my great grandmother on my moms side is full blood Cherokee and my great grandmother on my dad's side is full blood Choctaw (Not too uncommon where I live cause its on the border with Oklahoma on the trail of tears).Their husbands were german and irish respectively. I have never claimed to be Native American and it saddens me to see others with less heritage than me do it. I'd rather be Irish or German than take something from someone that's been taken from more than they ever should have been.
It’s because once you leave the reservations, you aren’t normally allowed to return to the tribe. It’s what happened to my great grandma. I’m not sure if that changed or not now a days. It’s upsetting though we aren’t allowed to celebrate part of our blood because we are white.
@@zerotodona1495that's a very sad rule. It's not like your blood changes once you leave.
I'm from New Albany, Ms. I got full blooded Cherokee in my family 😅😅😅
The same thing happens with people with gypsy ancestors, My grandad was Roma but I don’t claim to be a gypsy, it’s just in my dna but I find learning about the culture and traditions interesting.
I lost track of the amount of times I went “Oh boy…” this episode
As a Cherokee myself. Yeah! If she showed up in this dress, for real, she may not walk away uncursed.
Reminds me of that South Park episode where everyone says “I’m 1.3% victim!”
I wouldn't be surprised if the husband was the one who thought he had Cherokee in him. When I lived in Eastern Kentucky a lot of the guys there were obsessed with having any Native American in them and would act if it was their heritage.
They do say at like 4:00 that it's only him
Here in North Louisiana, I’m surprised at how many people I know claim to be part Caddo Indian…
You know what’s ironic? You can absolutely use straw to tie things and have it stay. However, you need the knowledge of how that’s held by the people these traditions belong to. It’s easy to look up or ask someone, if you put in the effort to do so. You have to braid or ply it a certain way, which takes effort and time.
So, it takes knowledge, effort, and time. None of which were ever going to be present in this wedding. Just entitlement and aesthetic with no context or appreciation.
In Oklahoma, I'm pretty sure the obsession is partially rooted in getting the benefits that come with it
This is why I never claim Cherokee blood 💀 my dad’s side was more native than my mom’s but I’m white as paper. The only thing taught to me was how to make moccasins as a kid, which I still don’t know how to feel about. I do my research now as an adult and only say I have Cherokee ancestors but I’m mostly Irish. It annoys me to no end when people say they’re native but they’re not even 2%. At best, I might be 1/16th lmao I’m not gonna disrespect an entire group of people by saying I’m Cherokee. And I sure as hell wouldn’t base a wedding dress off of it, nor would I ever wear a headdress.
Enrolled Eastern Shawnee here, descent of Chief Blackfish. Love your channel!!!!!
i am mixed native to the point i am enrolled in a tribe and they sent me covid relief. was super nice of them to help us. its like not as high as a percentage as you might think. consider that most of our family (native family) was murked apparently and it makes sense. idk about these people; personally i think that would be the least of the issues i have with gypsy culture. lol
The problem with wanting paperwork, and this comes from an Aboriginal Australian so might not be a direct comparison, is that the paperwork simply doesnt exist. There was such an extensive campaign to purge aboriginals from the country that there was an active effort to not record anything in relation to ethnicity beyond being accepted by the community as a member
Okay but I do think the dress was pretty, way prettier than the other dresses they always show on this show.
With most dresses those girls can’t even normally walk because the dresses are way to big and heavy😂
I watched this episode on HBOMAX and the drama was while the guy was courting the girl. That’s where we saw the usual HE IS NOT A GYPSY stuff from the mom. If I remember right the mom made him stay the night outside in the woods with a candle and if he kept to candle lit till morning then he could marry the daughter😅
The wedding outfits were ridiculous. I’m Comanche and Eastern Band Cherokee, and not only are headdresses worn by men as you mentioned, but in addition, they aren’t even a part of Cherokee regalia! They’re plains tribes regalia.
That's what I thought! The woman have a much different headdress right, like more cylindrical? That's what I remember from a post a friend of mine shared of an event she attended.
Full blooded native right here. We don’t want them. 😂😂 keep ‘em.
2:20 A childhood friend of mine always claimed he was part Native American and pointed to a tomahawk heirloom, that’d supposedly been passed down through his family, as proof. At some point around high school, someone convinced the family to get it authenticated and appraised for insurance purposes and to see if it had any historical relevance to the tribe/was possibly some priceless artifact that needed to be properly preserved. So, they took it to a tribe historian, a documented descendent from the tribe, who knew the tribe’s history front to back- like the literal #1 guy for all things about this tribe. The guy took one look at it and immediately knew it was bogus, like, a roadside attraction thing-bogus, probably made by a white guy with zero blood ties to the natives, and sold as an “”authentic Indian artifact”” on the side of the road way back in the day. So, I guess the story goes: the kid’s grandfather randomly came across it in the house when he was a little boy and asked his father (my friend’s great-grandfather) about it and was told some fanciful story (probably entirely made up just as an intriguing story to tell a little kid, not thinking anything of it/expecting him to forget about it or to bring it up when he’s older and tell him the truth then) about how it had been “handed down in the family for generations, yada yada yada.” Then it was put back and forgotten about until after the great-grandfather had died and the grandfather rediscovered it and took possession of it. It was later handed down from the grandfather to the kid’s father with the belief it was some family heirloom, until they decided to get it appraised. I haven’t seen/spoken to him at all since high school, so I’ve no idea if they ever did DNA tests to see if they have any native blood. Genealogical DNA tests were a thing then, but they were super expensive. If they’ve done one since, now that they’re cheaper, I doubt they have anything more than 0.01%, if they have any at all…
Minnesota Public Radio did a story recently about Anishinaabe and Ojibwe tribal members in northern Minnesota who are starting to reconnect with their Scandinavian ancestry and heritage. It was interesting to see the “reverse” study instead of so many of my fellow white people trying to claim an ancestry that is not theirs to claim.
Idk if i can be mad about this since it's pretty ridiculous and hopefully they do love each other. They seem happy and the families like each other
Yaaassss I’ve missed gypsy weddings with Ken and Dane!!
I’m half Hopi and I remember an extremely Caucasian, blonde haired, blue eyed coworker asking me about my last name, it’s very Native American 😂, and he was telling me he’s some crazy small percentage but he felt he was fully entitled to all the benefits having roll numbers gets you 😂 he deserved free college and allat 😂 I just looked at him 😒
I love seeing all the native americans in the comments talking about their lineage and family ❤
You can't really judge someone based on looks alone when it comes to ethnicity - both my siblings are half Native and look VERY similar to me, who is almost 100% Slavic heritage😂 I also have a friend who is registered with, ironically, the Cherokee and is whiter than me with light red hair. So I try not to judge on looks, cause genetics are weird. BUT this whole thing was an atrocity on every level and I'm ashamed on behalf of white people, holy crap
Bro so many people say they’re Cherokee and I’m from SC so def hear it all the time. Surprisingly i dont have it in my blood to my knowledge my aunt and uncle do by my mom had a different father. My roommate throughout college a little after was Lumbee but he was legit
I'm from the south so I can relate to their rant. My great grandfather is 100% Cherokee and my great aunts and uncles, even my grandmother and my dad, share their traits but I would never.... I got married in a small chapel in Vegas like a true American. 😂
My grandmother was half Hispanic and half native. My dad got her darker skin, I didn’t not get her darker skin. I get it, not all of us have dark skin, but at least I still have native features. I’m not some blonde blue eye white af person that has 1% native. I actually come from a tribe. Not Cherokee. It’s so upsetting seeing people like them insult the culture they destroyed. They never mention that the 1% comes from someone raping a native girl…..
I can hear the banjos from this whole video 🤣🤣
I’m half native and my uncle would make Indian jewelry and I always thought about how much turquoise is used😂
yeah, and these people in the vid with the wedding dress didn't even use real turquoise, granted it's VERY expensive, but if you really want to try at least make the stones look real? idk it was the first thing i noticed
@@lovelykuromiii4308 very true lol.
I'm a quarter Cherokee, and as much as I am proud of that, I don't claim anything, since I was not registered with my grandmother's tribe. I'd love to learn about the culture more, however.
I’m not American and don’t understand this but it’s hilarious 😂
I heard somewhere that whenever someone said their father was cherokee, it was like slang for leaving. I guess as generations went on, people started believing it.
also want to point out that no self respecting native family would ever let a wedding happen like that lmfao with the headdresses and im almost 100% certain that cherokee never had war bonnets like that. thats like a Plaines native/Lakota style 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I was thinking the same thing! I wouldn't consider myself native, but I have older family members who were natives. I never grew up in the culture, but I did at least learn a few things here and there. But when they showed that headdress I was like ohhhh nooo please nooo! 😂
That funny billy madison messin with that teacher spelling couch