@@feraltaco4783 Yeah which makes it so weird how the mom keeps pushing this so hard on her. Her words say that this is what she wants for her daughter, but her face is so miserable at the same time. Its really sad to watch.
@@Amandavmmm did you ever see that one with the 14 year old girl (I can't remember her name but Ken and Buff did a vid about her). Her parents basically tried to auction her off at a Halloween party. During the interview that poor girl looked so dead inside that I wanted to reach through my phone and pull that child out of that mess. Thank goodness her life ended getting better after that mess.
@@feraltaco4783 I remember that episode. That girl seemed so sweet and happy until all of that crap. No child should be forced into something like that
Update: After years of unhappy marriage, Violet divorced the man she gets married to in this episode. Her parents took her back, because they saw how unhappy she'd become. "He seemed to do little more than loaf around on the site. I’d get up at 6am to scrub our trailer, go out to work and then come home to cook. We argued constantly. I’d been brought up to believe that men treated women like princesses but he treated me with no respect. After eight years I was utterly miserable, but I plastered on a smile and tried to pretend I was happy, I couldn’t talk to anyone as gypsies don’t tend to discuss our personal lives. But eventually after another heated argument, I knew I was worth more and had to leave. I did the next day.” She even had a divorce party: "My divorce party felt so good. I was proud of myself for getting out of my marriage."
This really bummed me out. I feel like we just watched a mother pressure her daughter into sexual slavery. "We won't let her come back" is such a scary and heartless thing to say. This poor girl is so trapped.
@@LunatheLoungeSinger Lmao, the just have a stereotype of a whole group of people. How do they know? They don't, but they think they do because they group everyone as the same.
@@morganc.m1830 how do I know? Because I live in a place where they are rampant I hate them all and I'd have them all locked away if I was running things
As someone who’s from the UK gypsies have a bit of a reputation. As with any group of people some of them are really nice but some will turn up to places get off their faces and start fights. Unfortunately as well a lot of gyspy settlements in the uk are illegal and when they’re made to move on they leave the area full of rubbish and kind of destroy the place which doesn’t help win them any local support.
@@mrs.h2725 Exactly my thought but just so you know if the angry mob comes to get you Ill deny any of that and go against you in a heartbeat. No cause I dont have a spine but because I just really dont care.
Romnis in the u.s. end up paving people driveways. They'll quote you a great price and that they can get it done quickly but end up charging way more. I know that not all of them behave that way but that's all I've seen.
Giving up your independence for a man who wants a replacement mommy, baby maker & maid is a death sentence for some of us, whether or not they're from the traveler community. Many women are still told what this mother said to her daughter and denigrated for standing up for themselves.
Violet's manager isn't wearing a dorag, it's a religious thing. It's a type of turban called a patka. I'm guessing he's a Sikh as they are are quite common in some parts of Britain 🙂
I was a nurse at a large hospital in the maternity unit. We had a gypsy family come in where they didn't even have ID. No purse, suitcase etc. When they left they left with three garbage bags of stuff. They took the paper towels from the dispenser, the telephone and the sheets and blanket. The room was stripped of everything that wasn't hard attached. We had over $1000 of supplies taken from the supply room. It was unbelievable.
I worked in a school for a bit as a teaching assistant in the UK, and there was a boy I worked with who was a Gypsy. His mother had recently left her husband and the community, bringing him with her. He was in Year 8 (12-13), but had the reading and writing level of a 7-year-old. We did a lot to support him in the school, but he was so far behind the other children and we were expected to support him in an ordinary Year 8 class, the whole thing was impossible. He should have had access to special one-on-one attention, and additional English and Maths classes, but the funding just wasn't there. It's such a shame as his mother was clearly trying to do the right thing and leave the community and get her son a proper education. I really hope that both of them have done well since I left. He was a nice kid.
The fact that the parents are expecting her to flee back home not once but several times is fucken scary. Annnnd they're prepared to turn her away until she submits to darling husband >_>
I know that a lot of actual Romni people HATE being called Gypsies. At least from personal experience. I have a friend who's from a Romni family and they distance themselves from "Gypsies" and refer to them as trailer trash and a disgrace. It's crazy, in all honesty. Edit: So, I'm just gonna put it here but this is just what my friend's community has told me and what they practice. Obviously there will be differences and some people WILL refer to themselves as what is considered a slur but let's be real, tons of other groups do the same. I'm not saying that this is 100% the way, there's a ton of different beliefs out there. I'm simply speaking from my experiences from several Romni communities that have been very vocal about the use of Gypsy and their dislike of it. :)
@@aurorahedges6824 Oh absolutely. And many who consider themselves true Romni don't agree with many practices in these shows. The families I know at least educate their kids and keep the inbreeding to a minimum though I'm sure that varies between families.
I think there is a big difference though between calling yourself Romni or a gypsy. One is an etnecity with culture and history, and the other are just uneducated rural people who live in trailers.
@@maximillian1109 Yes and no. Gypsy is a slur against the Romni people, used for many generations. At this point, true Romni people refer to themselves as Romni, while their counterpart, Gypsies, are more of the trailer living inbred generations. That's the distinctions made to me by an actual Romni family. Many true Romni do not accept Gypsies because they believe they have bastardized their culture. Technically they are the same but still different
She is actually the first gypsy bride that I can say, is beautiful, naturally beautiful. ...has complete common sense, & is a good woman/ worker. I hope she finds happiness, cause ain't with him, & that caravan. I hope they do a follow up on her.
Don't you remember the 16 year old that told off her mother to go to nursing school and told the guy her mom wanted her to marry "I don't need anything from you thanks enjoy the party bye"
@@esmeraldatrinidad6163 that's all true, but she did have the tacky wedding tho . This one I feel really is the first to have everything on her plate squared off .
I used to work at a hospital (in America) and one of the head gypsies in my area would frequent for health complications and it got so bad that the family other than his wife were not allowed into the hospital. They were caught breaking into other patient rooms looking for valuables. It was such an issue that the hospital staff would be alerted if he was admitted.
One of my classmates is a gypsy and it's scary how women are belittled in this culture. She's only 21 ans pressured to find a husband, she was battered by her boyfriend and everyone went against her for telling the police and not just submitting to him, even her own parents... That's just terrifying
The fact she said “do not get married” after getting married…poor thing. This sounds bad, but I hope she’s divorced by now (since this was so long ago) and living her life and happy 🥺
@@sonjakovacevic1535 also I think they meant it in a way of like…possible DV for example maybe. With how controlling the men are mixed with how independent she is. But they could’ve also not meant it that way so lol
I watched my big fat gypsy wedding at the ripe age of 13 and 14. This led to me having nightmares of becoming a gypsy bride. It’s sad that this is their lives and my nightmare 😬
The UK’s relationship with Travellers (“gypsy” is a derogatory term here) is very turbulent. There’s a lot of aggression that comes from both sides. I don’t agree with people who are nasty to Travellers, but I can kind of understand what they’re concerned about. Often times, Travellers bring a lot of trouble with them and leave community areas in a total mess. They can take over community/residential spaces and push residents out, get into fights with people and police forces, steal stuff from peoples property. But like with any group, they’re the loud minority. Then on the other side, you have nastiness in the form of bullying and straight up assaults, with people treating them like crap or even going as far as to jump them in the street purely because they live differently or because they’ve been taught by UK society that it’s okay to mistreat them. We had a Traveller boy in my school and he was regularly beaten into hospital simply because his family were Travellers. Like a lot of things in the UK, it gets really nasty.
@@Sly-Moose Yeah, the UK gets really closed-minded and rough at times. Lots of bigots in the form of White Van Men, middle/upper class white women (JK Rowling being the perfect example of that one) and even your bog standard chav.
In my country they are protected like endangered species you're not allowed to lay hand on them but they are allowed to do all that you said to you and won't be punished for it.
That's how I kind of assumed things to be in Europe. My grandfather came over to the US from Latvia and he would talk about having to watch out for gypsies that might get ya.
i kind of got these weird chills when flies randomly got stuck in her dress... it was kind of like the universe saying DONT DO IT :( it breaks my heart to see her give up such a great independent life as a woman at her age, many of us strive to have that life such as myself. I pray that she finds happiness in whatever path she chooses, i am not one to judge.
@V P bahaha who knows i just thought it was a funny thought that crossed my mind when i saw those flies and the way i was feeling about the whole situation
In the UK there's Roma Gypsies and Irish Travelers - They're two different groups. Irish travelers originate from Ireland and Roma people I think originally come from south-east Asia. But they tend to be lumped together however its two distinct cultural and ethnic groups.
Ken and Buff Pro not knowing a Sikh turban calling it a do - rag had me rolling around on the floor hahahahahaha, keeping the curls fresh hahahahahahaha
It’s weird to think the appropriate marrying age depends on culture. In the gypsy/traveler culture, girls 15, 16, and 17 years old are the right times to get married while the rest of us think that’s too young. Meanwhile this woman is 25 (the normal age for a woman to get married in America) and is an old maid by her culture’s standards. It’s also interesting that a woman who went against culture by working for years would marry a guy that doesn’t want his business ruined by identifying himself as gypsy or a traveler (meaning he also lives outside of his community) but they’re still choosing to live the gypsy life at home as a married couple.
@@kingcosworth2643 ??? Isolate them from the world? I'm confused, which world are you talking about? Must be an Imaginary world because you can get married on your own at 18, work at 16, live on your own at 16 and drink at 19 (Canada). We don't have the culture of keeping our kids at home until they're married or 50 years old. You get shoved into the real world very quickly here.
@@awilliams7796 true but usually one’s work and home life doesn’t involve splitting between two cultures. Usually it’s one’s work that people worry will ruin their home life. Instead it’s the home life that the groom is trying to keep hidden.
In our area we have 'gypo season', where the gypsies come to town at the same time every year. It's not a nice term to use for them but unfortunately every year during that time crime rates soar, residents and other visitors are harassed and everywhere they've settled ends up ruined, not to mention they often illegally camp on private land. It's a real shame because not all of them are like that but as usual it's the minority giving the rest a bad rap 🙁 it results in the Romani people getting a lot of hate in the UK sadly
Gypsies have a bad reputation in a lot of European countries mine as well. I’ve been lucky to meet both good and bad gypsies but man the bad is really bad. From teen brides, dog fighting, illegal drug trading, cheating like it’s eating etc. But I’ve also met some good guys. My dad’s landlords are two very nice gypsie men that rent out a few houses in my country and across the border. And even they told my dad about all the bad parts and how common it is.
They are extremely marginalized, so a lot resort to the world of crime. The landlord is very kind to rent out a space to a gypsy. He is doing more than giving them a simple home. He gave them a chance for a better life than gypsies usually get.
@@crypticcorgi8280 if they’re culture could get as fucked up as that it’s understandable why they are hated, but it’s still terrible how some are just innocent people trying to get around and live but can’t because of the reputation of their own, it’s just a horrible cycle of crime and discrimination
same in Sweden. Part of it is also that they make up 90% of the beggar population. They come over to beg for a couple months, then travel back home, rinse repeat
I feel so terrible for her about how she’s told what to do with marriage, giving up her job just to get married, and telling woman does this and that. I hope she’ll be okay 🙁 and she’s right don’t get married young, enjoy your 20’s! 😁
I'm not a gypsy, but was married at 22. and had two kids by 25... and I did enjoy it! Wouldn't change a thing! Everybody is different, just depends on where you see yourself and what you are willing to sacrifice! Marriage isn't easy at any age, and the older we get the more set in their ways and stubborn people get... As long as you are mature enough to deal with it, nothing wrong with marrying in your early 20's.
@@carybrown3070 I’m with ya I got to re linked with a girl I dated in middle school and high school been together for 5 years have a baby on the way and wouldn’t change a thing she’s my best friend. But everyone is different i get that but it seems like it’s almost becoming the new college thing. Like “everyone go to college or you won’t be successful” now it’s “enjoy your 20’s don’t settle down young you’ll regret it” idk almost seems like the excuse some people use to mess around all the time 😂😂😂 not everyone obviously.
@@carybrown3070 Yeah I understand that, I have a lot of friends around me that have children or had children by 18-22. But like you said it’s not for everyone 😅
@@carybrown3070 also I was pointing out how much she didn’t really want to give up her job, and not wanting to get married, like these guys said 90% not in for the marriage lol
I snort laughed when you mentioned Stefano from Days of Our Lives. My favorite part of his character arc was when he was in a train explosion, then showed up a month later with no burn scars.
As an american living in the uk, gypsys here have repu8tations for vandalization, harassment and theft when they move through a town. It's so prevalent that the government will put up flyers to avoid traveling when the gypsys are in the are. I personally have never witnessed it but my parents who live in the south of england have. A few of them threatened to steal their my parents dogs. Of course all I have said is anecdotal and I am sure it is a few bad apples that spoil the bunch type situation. So long story short, gypsys do face a large amount of prejudice in england and from what I have heard throughout Europe.
I’m in the Balkans. I did have my dog taken by Gypsies once. They wanted €70 so I could get him back. There was no use in calling the police because they would probably retaliate against us afterwards, so we payed up. Didn’t have any problems with them afterwards.
@@FireGriffon They wanted to steal our firewood, we called the police and they fined them big time. They retaliated by poisoning our dog so I know what you mean. They still circle the neighbourhood looking for goods to steal, everybody is on edge around them, they just don't care about any rules or moral in the country, only their own. But I'd still retaliate, I hate letting criminals do whatever they want, they think they're gods and someone needs to put them back in their place. Our entire family is now in permanent enemy terms with theirs and I don't know what they're gonna do in the future but we did say we'll end them no matter if we get arrested or not so for years now they don't meddle with us but we'll see whether it's because they're just scared or cooking up some trouble for us when we least expect it.
My friend has family in the UK and she was there visiting (before Covid) and they walked by someone on the side of the road playing guitar and everyone started cursing about the "gypsy". They can usually just TELL someone is a gypsy. She showed me pictures of their convoy's taking up entire side roads and everyone gives them a WIDE berth. The UK version and the US version are two VERY different things from what I can tell.
We visited Spain and I was stunned how much they expressed distain for gypsies. It was bad. We did have a tornados that came thru out town and we had gypsies everywhere claiming they could do roofing and construction. They took money and left. It was a big deal with police on the local news warning people to investigate who they hired
I live in Ohio (USA) my mom has told stories of when she worked in a grocery store probably late 80s early 90s & the Manager heard “gypsies were coming”. He had men standing guard over the registers and the women employees following them around the store. 😅 “gypsies” don’t have a good reputation here either
A am an American Gypsy. Let me tell you, reality TV is lying to you. They are following around Hicks with maybe some gypsy heritage in them. Most American and Canadian gypsies are not even close to that. Also yeah the marginalization of gypsies in the UK is crazy. It is correct to say that they do commit a lot of crimes, but that is because they've been systemically marginalized for generations. Most live in a dirt floor makeshift shacks in a first world country. They have to hide their heritage just to get higher education, housing, and job opportunities. So of course A lot of them commit crime.
@Olive i’m canadian and know people who’ve been denied enrolment in the area for juvenile records, would either have to attend a troubled kids centre for education or have to move hours away and appeal to different schools. repeat offenders are born from troubled children who receive condemnation instead of help. and the commenter above is describing a self perpetuating cycle; your grandpa stole food to survive, now you’re denied employment; therefore, you and your further generations steal too. a lifestyle of being a moving convoy of people means discrimination can literally drive you from your homestead, dominate your life, make you easily identifiable. it’s the hopelessness of already being labelled a thief, and the poverty of whoever raised you, that makes the crime cycle continue. i’ve met plenty of people stuck in this cycle in the suburbs, never mind toronto or other canadian cities. it’s a human behaviour to choose the easy route of stealing things, rather than starve your children looking for employment where none will hire~
@@applejuicesip this seems fishy to me...I grew up on a farm and whenever someone shows up willing to pitch in we are always willing to help in return...then again we never had problems with the "gypsies" either maybe it was because they are pretty good at self policing each other idk
I used to work at a department store in Alabama and whenever an alleged gypsy came in to the store the security people would call us at our terminal to watch out for them because they would always bring in these huge baby strollers and stuff the things that they would steal in them.
I don't know if it's the same in the States, or even in the rest of Europe, but I'm Portuguese and gipsies really do have a bad rep here. They're a nomadic people since many many years ago, so they can show up anywhere and set up shop even in the most broken down part of your town. Unfortunately, this sense of inventiveness and almost romantic "free like the wind" nature if harshly off-set by their innate sense of getting into trouble. I'm sure many gipsies are not like this, but every time some gipsy party is involved in some sort of trouble, be it in my town, or over the news, it has always been their fault. They show up wherever they want, set up shop, and from there they live by their own set of rules. Local authority means nothing to them, so they feel culturally obligated to mess with the locals, be it by vandalism, stealing and picking fights with the police. They give no respect and are granted no respect, so I'm not surprised the bride's boss wasn't too keen on employing a gipsy.
@@mattmammone2338 Of course it is. That's why I started the second paragraph with "I'm sure not all gypsies are like this". But I also can't walk on eggshells when objectively telling the stories about gypsies that reach our homes over here. If I remembered a positive story, I'd tell it for sure, but all that comes out is negative, unfortunately.
I live by Murphys village Sc a whole big neighborhood of Irish travellers houses/mansions. Odd scene all the windows stay covered most also have a trailers on the property that most actually stay in. Same rep here in the states really
@@Jess-IssaMess Those aren't Roma, they are what we call tinkerers. The are Irish travaler, they don't have the same DNA markers as Romany or speak the same language. Being Roma I do believe there is alpt more bad then good, the horror stories some of the girls go through in my people from being molested by thier uncles or a family. alot of crooked things go on in our culture and there not willing to change it. we have the highest percentage of death from overdoses, numbers normal cultures don't have to face
My mom, god bless her soul, always wanted to get a gypsy wagon and turn it into a little mobile coffee shop and set up alongside freeways around the country. Now seeing what one of those wagons look like I feel my mom was insane...j/k I still love the idea as I did when I was younger.
@@thebarefoothobbit when I was a kid it didnt sound very interesting but now that I'm older I love the idea. She got the idea while we lived in Alaska so the scenery would be awsome.
@@mrs.h2725 nowadays they use roach coaches. To be fair there are some that are well built and maintained. Theres a crap ton her in Vegas so I've seen the good, the bad, ugly...and then the oh damn stay away kuz your gonna get salmonella just looking too long.
It's a whole culture and I'm not part of it so take what I say with a pinch of salt. I am however from the UK so I can speak a bit on the friction between travelers/gypsies Vs gorgers/not gypsies. There are alot of stereotypes around travelers in UK. The one that most say is that they don't respect woman. Travellers are often Catholic,less so now. The men work and the woman are homemakers, the daughters are taught how to clean. They have chores and curfews unlike the sons. Travaller men will cheat on their wives with non gypsies but if a wife did that she could be kicked out of their community/family. They often don't integrate with gorgors. This leads to friction and suspicion between the two different cultures.
I’m not English but I live here and the attitude towards gypsy/traveller culture was completely new to me but I learned quickly! There are many good reasons why they’re aren’t liked in U.K. They don’t believe that the law applies to them unless it’s something that they benefit from. They don’t believe they should pay taxes or contribute to ‘normal’ society at all and wouldn’t if they could. Even the ones in houses are always disputing having to pay for utilities and council taxes. The true travellers mostly live in caravans and just park themselves off wherever they feel like it, private land or not. And then become a huge nuisance by being rowdy and making a massive mess of wherever they’re living. When it gets too messy, they just pick up and find somewhere else to park. They also put their animals out to pasture wherever they feel like it too, the side of the main roads, wherever. They’re also terrible to their animals especially horses. There are laws here to protect them to some degree but basically they believe they’re not subject to any kind of social rules. But are always complaining about being discriminated against. They also believe they should be entitled to get everything for free. They steal and scam people and believe that’s a legitimate way of making money - it’s the ‘gypsy’ way. Which is why people don’t like to hire them or do business with them. If you rent out a reception hall to them for a wedding or whatever, they will trash it and won’t pay for damages or try skip out on paying all together. A lot of the animosity towards them is more historically based, going way back. But especially in the ‘90s and early 2000’s, they always being problematic. Nowadays tho, it seems like they tend to just keep to themselves or conform somewhat to society. And of course they aren’t all bad, some are really nice people.
Poor gal, she's been told all her life that this was the path to happiness. Probably did everything she was told and thought was ''the way'', and now realizes it has all been a bloody lie.
I wonder if it's a generational thing, because my mother went from "You are 20, don't you dare get married or have kids" to "why haven't you given me grandkids!? You're 22, a year older than me when I had you!"
Fyi the guy with the ”do-rag” is actually a Sikh, its in place of a turban :)) also gypsies/romanys are called Travellers, especially English/Irish Travellers.
I remember when I was in secondary school (high school for US), there was a whole community of gypsies living next to the our school field and once during a lesson we watched a man running after a horse from the field into the parking lot. All of the teachers lost their shit running out into the parking lot. Funniest end to a school day ever :)
I hate this stereotypical 50s female role they’ve got going on. I think it’s ridiculous that she had to quit her job. A simple data entry job could be done online that way she could still travel, have a job, earn her own money, and have a little independence. I mean I wish her all the luck in the world but damn did she look unhappy when she got married. That’s not love it’s just security
So she's giving up her job to live the gypsy life.... But he won't show his face coz being pitted as a gypsy might affect his business... So are they traveling or no? What's his business? And won't everyone who has seen the show, know he's a gypsy as soon as he introduces his wife? Or is she going to be confined to the wagon til death do they part? Is this like consensual abduction?
I'm very sorry to say, as a Brit, (to answer your question, Ken), that in the UK the general population doesn't treat gypsies very well. They face a lot of discrimination, and there's a stereotype that they steal a lot. Sadly (I hate saying this) I've worked jobs where we've been robbed blind by gypsy women...there are bad eggs in every community. Sadly because of those bad eggs, the whole community suffers because the gen pop thinks wrongly that they -all- steal etc. They are supposed to be protected from discrimination as an ethic group but there's a lot of institutionalised bigotry towards them 😔
Thank you so-so-so much, I am actually crying after seeing one nice comment in a sea of hate and prejudice that this has drummed up for my people. We don't want to live in make shift dirt floor shacks in a 1rst world country. Of course we want a better education, job opportunities, and a house market that doesn't discriminate against us. But we are extremely marginalized. Of course there are a lot of bad examples but the generations of systematic racism has told us the only way to survive in life is to not play by the rules that work against us. This arranged marriage stuff only happens with fundamentalist gypsies which is a minority sect within our culture. But it only builds onto this prejudice we face. Justifying the abuse we already receive.
Absolutely this. Its shocking how folk treat gypsy communities here - I know locally folk get banned from pubs just for the assumption they'll do something, pushed off of completely unused brownfield land which isn't even then used for anything, and constantly threatened. Though the concept of private land ownership is a bit squirrley to me anyway 😅 There's a static camps that's been here for at least a couple generations, and what folk have been able to achieve with the little they have been able to carve out for themselves is admirable. Only ever met gypsies who are completely normal people, any wee bits of work I've got done on the house has been to a high standard. Its just outright discrimination as you say, and new land laws for those south of the border will only make it worse
@Olive originally and very very far back, it seemd they cane from India and the surrounding regions. They were called gypsies because it was wrongly believed for a long time they came from Egypt. Irish travellers aren't from the east, as far as I remember, but genealogy shows they have been ethnically separate from the rest of the Irish population for a very long time. Don't forget, countless gypsies were murdered during the Holocaust. They are an ethnic group, but they include various different groups and cultures who identify differently from one another (an Irish traveller is not the same as a Roma for example).
@Olive we are an ethnic group, yes. We started out in India a very-very long time ago. But you do not need a nationality to be an ethnicity. Jewish people were still an ethnicity before and after Israel. You can just be a nomadic ethnicity. Any ethnicity is a group of people who share the same lineage and culture.
@@laurabrown2982 very accurate, I am not used to seeing some one who knows their stuff about my culture. Not even a lot of people know how terribly my people suffered during the Holocaust. 1/3rd of my people where just Thanos snapped off the face of the planet and it is just a footnote in history books that people don't know about. It is one of the biggest reasons there is a lot of poverty and crime with modern Gypsies. You can look this up, after the survivors survived concentration camps, they had no attempt to repatriotize us back to the countries we where born in. They left us at the doors of the camps because we were historically nomadic. European gyspies lost everything, our homes, our generational wealth, and family. America was in charge of finding justice for us. When they Nazis tried to cite a book about how it wasn't about Jew's race but culture as legal defense after the war. No one bought it. They then sited a book about how the genocide was not about the Gypsy's race and everyone bought it until the 1970's. By the time they got around reparations for our people. The most of the survivors where already dead. America had their own racial hang ups at the time so the more swarthy skinned Gypsies seemed to receive no help. What is sad is "cultural differences" is cited to to this day as a justification of the prejudice we face today. Siting arranged marriages as one of the many reasons. But only a small sect of us even do that. Most of us have modernized with society. It is just an excuse for their racism.
It's derogatory everywhere. In the US many *literally* don't care & don't want to learn. It doesn't matter "what it means to ME" -- only g**** can say g****
Can these girls like break free and decide their own way if they really want to? Like I dont understand why she would wanna give up her independence to be married..
No they can't. If they get divorced etc they are usually shunned by their families. If they're not married by like 18/19 they are basically considered old and unwanted. It's so sad. The men do what they want and the girls cook and clean.
Also their whole community usually shun them which would be so scary for a 16 year old. Who would the turn to? So they usually stay through abuse, it's so sad.
You’re talking about a culture in which girls are taken out of school in elementary school and taught to care for a family. Their entire life revolves around the family. Being shunned by the community means they have to live in a world they aren’t prepared for.
They end up trapped in the way of life because they are taken out of school at such a young ages. This makes running away and getting a job to support yourself hard
So- Gypsies in the UK... I honestly feel like an open person, willing to give anyone a chance- thought the same about gypsies. I'm sure there's good groups and such out there- but you do hear things. Theres a street where they go through peoples bins and steal bikes etc- they kinda just toss the rubbish out of the bin and into the street with the mentality of 'it no longer belongs to them because they've thrown it out' Near me there was also a few gypsies that moved into a park. I walked past, they were dancing around and I think I mentioned outloud that it was cool. Sudden silence, everyone turned to stare- I kinda just backed out and the dancing began again. Next day there were police everywhere due to people getting assaulted. I didn't think I held anything on them, as I was like 'Probably a small group making things bad' but I went to a bar that had some gypsies in. Was totally cool with it, went to get a drink- one of them bumped into me and started to do weird hand movements as they spoke- I instantly had a sinking feeling as I spoke and I held my hands over my pockets while I talked. Some of his friends were trying to get behind me as he moved his hand around. I had never been so sure that they were trying to pick my pocket- the guy looked sad for a moment then turned away. I've never had every fiber of my being instantly like 'Protect pockets- stay alert- get away'... it honestly made me wonder if I was imagining it and I was being biased- I want to keep my mind open and accepting but I honestly couldn't help but have bad feeling instantly. I keep thinking back and being like 'What was that...? Was I imagining things or did I judge them based on their culture?'. I'm still open minded, I'd still accept someone if they said they were a gypsy after I got to know them- but I do feel like there's now a barrier that I can't help have up.
Gypsies are a protected group under the Equality Act 2010 in the UK, but still face discrimination. They have a bad reputation from antisocial groups of gypsies who leave household waste and cause public disturbances. I remember a time when it felt like every newspaper was talking about gypsies daily.
When I lived in Texas, we had a Traveller season. During the colder months, we knew they were coming. They weren't the best group, often fighting or jumping others, in trouble with the law, and always trashing the place. It got so bad that majority of the towns businesses that I worked in refused them service. They would complain but never win since many people weren't scared of them. One proposed to me once and I was immediately like, "No thanks. I'm good." Often they flaunt money, the fancy cars (that they ran until they stopped working with no maintenance done), and destroy property. Some were nice. But not all. It was sad really.
Her boss isn't wearing a do-rag, he's Sikh and has uncut hair as part of his religion (I think uncut hair is called Kesh, which is one of the 5Ks) There are quite a few Sikh people in the UK, especially in the Midlands where it sounds like she's from, and they make up an important part of the community :)
“Traveller” is a softer way of saying that someone is a member of Romani culture. Many people do not like the term “gypsy” so “traveller” is used. They don’t necessarily all live nomadically.
I literally love gypsy brides uk! Been watching since the 1st episode in 2010. (Most American gypsies come from the UK apparently!) Violet didn't want to get married, it was her age and her mum that wanted her to settle down.
@@Jay_one There's Irish travellers, Romania gypsies and English gypsies. Violet is an English gypsy, there is irish/Romania travellers in the US, so you're right! ( my dad's family come from Irish travellers and I know a few gypsies from different clans)
@@TheGothicMother the English Gypsies usually come from Ireland. They often have a very particular accent that is similar to some Irish accents as well.
Hi gypsy here (16) lol that advice is so wise. I almost got engaged because I was confused and scared of not being able to have a choice in who I marry anymore I wanted to convince myself that I wanted it but I regretted it as soon as I said it. I had no idea who he was and if I wanted to get to know him I wasn’t allowed a social life or go to school anymore. I am so thankful that I said that I didn’t want to marry that guy. I still remember the day my mum told me some guy wants to ask to marry me my heart fell to my stomach it was like I watched my whole life fall apart. I’ve seen what gypsy marriages look like it’s hell (from my experience) and yeah people are cruel to us but I didn’t face any problems like that I’ve only seen my father and my mum get thrown out of shores (rightfully so they would shop lift) I fund it funny that I was surrounded by crime and I’m scared to even throw a paper on the ground or even steal stuff lol dad was a drug dealer mum stole a bunch grandma is scamming people in Poland. Life’s crazy man. (Dating isn’t allowed for women only men can have girlfriends but women have husbands 🤮🔫)
This may come across as prejudiced, they are not my prejudices, just an explanation. The reason the Irish traveling community (I'm not talking about Romani) have such a bad reputation in Ireland, at least in rural communities, is because there have been many cases of them setting up camp on private land like farms, then trash the area, take things, don't dump their sewage responsibly, basically have to get the police involved to get them to move along and leave the cleanup to the landowner. This has happened to my uncle and they essentially prevented him from being able to use one of his fields for his livelihood for weeks until the police got them to go. Obviously this is not all of the community, but enough to build a bad rep over generations. There's very little done on either front to foster goodwill between general society and them. Also it's always the trouble makers that make news and perpetuate the stereotype of antisocial behaviour. I went to primary school with a few girls whose families had settled and they were lovely, I was friends with some, not with all, because like with any individual there are personality clicks and clashes
Definitely true. My family/friends in the UK talk trash on Gypsies all the time. Apparently they’re known for rolling into town a few times a year getting trashed a the pubs and fighting, stealing, causing all sorts of problems and then they run from it and move on
In Serbia you can't miss gypsies, they are much darker than us, they have different accents, can't pronounce some sounds, they also have their own language. And sadly usually no education
I used to run a carnival, and all of the food and game owners were gypsies. They didn't mind being called that, they called themselves gypsies. They are wonderful, successful people. Great business people!! I'm still good friends with a few of them even though we haven't worked together for years ❤️.
FINALLY THE RETURN! I’m getting married in two months and I watch and rewatch your Gipsy wedding videos with my fiancé because we *definitely* want our wedding to be equal dumpster fire 🔥 Edit: okay I just got to the end of the episode and this wasn’t a dumpster fire, it was just sad 😣 Poor girl, marriage shouldn’t and doesn’t have to be the end of your freedom! Your dreams and independence is important and the right guy will embrace that and help you reach your dreams! I’m graduating from college a month before the wedding, and my future husband is moving with me to Los Angeles so I can pursue my dream job as a screenwriter. I’m so so sorry she had to give up her job and independence!
Her mother just seems like a Miserable Human Being !!! I feel soo BAD for this poor young girl ... I hope she finds a way to occupy her time with something that brings her joy ! - 👊🏻 From 🇨🇦
8:15 yeah gypsies aren't treated well in the uk at all, and they're called travellers because they say 'gypsy' is offensive! And as for businesses not wanting them in their establishment, I'd say probably 90% + of UK gypsies I've ever met especially the men are extremely aggressive and confrontational toward non gypsies. They also move around from place to place in big travelling groups with all their caravans, break onto privately owned grounds and make camp there illegally, wreck the area, leave bags and bags of rubbish, hunan waste qnd sometimes unwanted pets in the feild when they move on causing the landowner and expensive amount of cleanup! Yeah they don't have a great rep over here....!
I lived in Italy and saw firsthand the issues with gypsies. I understand the reason why people have a bad view of them. Pickpocketing, squatting, littering, and scams were a common thing we ran into. This was a problem in Paris too. As a Canadian it was shocking, I've only seen a police report about a gypsy group that was shoplifting our stores when I worked at Danier leather. They used strollers, booster bags and long skirts to conceal the jackets, they'd cut off the security tags with dog nail clippers and tuck the tags into the pockets of other jackets. That was my first experience with gypsies until I went to Europe. I wanted to believe that the stereotype wasn't true but sadly it isn't.
I actually found my soul mate when I was 20 and we got married right before I turned 21. A family friend screamed at my husband on our wedding day because I was too young, in his opinion. We are still happily married 20 years later. To each their own.
I live in Poland and here the gypsies also have a bad reputation. While working in the store, I was robbed by a gypsy woman and had to return the money to the store from my own pocket. Later, I found out that my friends from the shops nearby, seeing that someone looks or behaves like a gypsy, do not serve him in the store. When I was little, my parents scared me that if I didn't behave well, the gypsies would come and take me away from them.
I don't know about the rest of the UK, but where I'm from in Scotland, we used to get gypsies parking their caravans in local beauty spots, or in the grounds of the local castle, they tear up all the grass and make such a mess, I think that's where the bad rep comes from. The local council ended up putting up barricades and they've not been back since. Edit - I'm not saying ALL gypsies are like this, only the ones I've seen personally.
I worked at a place that a lot of gypsies would go to, Wildest night I can remember was when over 15 of them started a fist fight in the parking lot and were just laying eachother out with knockouts.
Those horse drawn wagons are definitely what some travelers live in, some have switched to campers and rv’s. People outside of the culture have kind of appropriated them and turned it into a fantasy Ren faire thing
For those interested it appears that Violet Ann finally divorced her husband after about 7 years of her trying to make the marriage work. According to her, her parents could see how miserable she was and let her come back home because they wanted happy Violet back. After her divorce was finalized she threw a divorce party with karaoke, a cake and her altered wedding dress. "As I unpicked the stitches to modify it, I felt as though I was unpicking the misery of my marriage. It was brilliant. And I went back to the same bakery that made my wedding cake - they’d never made a designer divorce cake before." Tldr: She got divorced, threw a rager, got a job and is happy 😁
Gypsies do have a pretty bad reputation here in the UK. I've watched a lot of this show, and in most of the episodes they talk about how they keep the wedding venue secret until the last minute because if the owners find out it's a gypsy wedding they'll cancel. Gypsy weddings have a reputation for fighting and property damage here, I think.
Many of you don't understand the Gypsy culture. It's not at all like western or even European culture. There is a huge stigma around Gypsies. They always keep to themselves and are constantly squatting on people's property. Maybe it's different in UK now, but I lived there for 13 years (1970-1983) and they set up in people's fields, they would eat the local wildlife or even steal from the farmers. It was a bitch to get them removed. A lot of UK countryside is rural, and people are very superstitious, so when the Gypsies knocked on your door selling flowers (usually stolen from your own yard) you would buy them for fear of being cursed or hexed (yes seriously). Though that said, the Gypsies can be very loyal if they like you. A friend of my father's just gave them a portion of his land so they wouldn't squat. They trusted him to store all their 'treasures' when they would travel. Their caravans are beautifully painted and designed. My mother used to threaten the kids that if we were naughty, they would give us to the Gypsies.
The Honeymoon period is supposed to be the happiest time and she's this depressed. That's sad. It's like she's given up everything for nothing but the right to say she's married.
True story, one time at a bar in the UK my cousin got into an argument with a gypsie and the gypsie must of rang up all his friends and family because a bunch of vans showed up filled with very angry people it was nuts !
I grew up next to the biggest Irish traveler settlement in the US. I was best friends with a young girl from the community growing up. She was the last one in school with us and I’ll never forget when her parents took her out. She now lives in a huge house with kids and is married to someone she said she didn’t want to marry. They have very strong traditions and reputations that keep them trapped in the system.
She looks beautiful and I actually like how the wedding looks, only thing missing is a willing and happy bride.... Poor girl seems miserable...
They all seem to be.
Especially the women.
@@feraltaco4783 Yeah which makes it so weird how the mom keeps pushing this so hard on her. Her words say that this is what she wants for her daughter, but her face is so miserable at the same time. Its really sad to watch.
@@Amandavmmm did you ever see that one with the 14 year old girl (I can't remember her name but Ken and Buff did a vid about her). Her parents basically tried to auction her off at a Halloween party. During the interview that poor girl looked so dead inside that I wanted to reach through my phone and pull that child out of that mess. Thank goodness her life ended getting better after that mess.
@@feraltaco4783 I remember that episode. That girl seemed so sweet and happy until all of that crap. No child should be forced into something like that
Update: After years of unhappy marriage, Violet divorced the man she gets married to in this episode. Her parents took her back, because they saw how unhappy she'd become.
"He seemed to do little more than loaf around on the site. I’d get up at 6am to scrub our trailer, go out to work and then come home to cook. We argued constantly. I’d been brought up to believe that men treated women like princesses but he treated me with no respect. After eight years I was utterly miserable, but I plastered on a smile and tried to pretend I was happy, I couldn’t talk to anyone as gypsies don’t tend to discuss our personal lives. But eventually after another heated argument, I knew I was worth more and had to leave. I did the next day.”
She even had a divorce party:
"My divorce party felt so good. I was proud of myself for getting out of my marriage."
Good for her.
Thank you!
Bless her heart. Arraigned marriages need to be illegal!
Thank you for letting us know, take care 💕💕💕🙏🙏🙏
I'm glad that she divorced him, but its so sad that she sufferef for 8 years first :(
This really bummed me out. I feel like we just watched a mother pressure her daughter into sexual slavery. "We won't let her come back" is such a scary and heartless thing to say. This poor girl is so trapped.
Travellers are scum that's why
@@Rachel0400 all of them? How do u know?
@@LunatheLoungeSinger Lmao, the just have a stereotype of a whole group of people. How do they know? They don't, but they think they do because they group everyone as the same.
@@morganc.m1830 I know but I still gotta ask
@@morganc.m1830 how do I know? Because I live in a place where they are rampant I hate them all and I'd have them all locked away if I was running things
As someone who’s from the UK gypsies have a bit of a reputation. As with any group of people some of them are really nice but some will turn up to places get off their faces and start fights. Unfortunately as well a lot of gyspy settlements in the uk are illegal and when they’re made to move on they leave the area full of rubbish and kind of destroy the place which doesn’t help win them any local support.
@@mrs.h2725 That’s a very Tory opinion you have there
@@mrs.h2725 Exactly my thought but just so you know if the angry mob comes to get you Ill deny any of that and go against you in a heartbeat. No cause I dont have a spine but because I just really dont care.
@@mrs.h2725 and they probably aren’t allowed to even leave that easily if they wanted to leave.
Which is surprising since they clean 24/7
Romnis in the u.s. end up paving people driveways. They'll quote you a great price and that they can get it done quickly but end up charging way more. I know that not all of them behave that way but that's all I've seen.
Giving up your independence for a man who wants a replacement mommy, baby maker & maid is a death sentence for some of us, whether or not they're from the traveler community. Many women are still told what this mother said to her daughter and denigrated for standing up for themselves.
There is a balance between standing up for yourself and the comprise all couples must make.
@@kingcosworth2643 this has nothing to do with compromises in a relationship tf
Some of us?
@@Koirafanii it does, women always try and make a compromise look like "manipulation"
@@andywattbulb yeah. Weirdly enough, some women actually WANT to do that. Idk why. It's out there though. You'd be shocked what some ppl want.
It’s horrible that gypsy girls/women are treated this way in their culture still. So sad.
Eh, they can get out if they want. It's still a lot better for women and children than black american culture, by far
Given the blue hair, I'm sure you won't like my assessment, but disliking something makes it no less factual 😕 it's not like I'm happy about it
@@variaxi935 how are they going to leave with no education besides being taught how to clean?
@@variaxi935 what do you mean by it's better then black american culture?
@@beautifulblackqueen8808 no fathers
Violet's manager isn't wearing a dorag, it's a religious thing. It's a type of turban called a patka. I'm guessing he's a Sikh as they are are quite common in some parts of Britain 🙂
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I thought that's what it was but I've been wrong before!😂😭
Thank you, Internet researchee! It didn't look like a do-rag, and I was wondering what it actually was.
Lol I thought it was a hair net.....for hygienic reason. Maybe he was hanging out in the kitchen.
I was a nurse at a large hospital in the maternity unit. We had a gypsy family come in where they didn't even have ID. No purse, suitcase etc. When they left they left with three garbage bags of stuff. They took the paper towels from the dispenser, the telephone and the sheets and blanket. The room was stripped of everything that wasn't hard attached. We had over $1000 of supplies taken from the supply room. It was unbelievable.
I’m glad
I can see why the hotel manager didn’t want any Gypsies staying at the hotel...
It’s called poverty!
@@Kat-kg7eu riiiight
@@Kat-kg7eu Ive lived in poverty and we NEVER acted that shitty
I worked in a school for a bit as a teaching assistant in the UK, and there was a boy I worked with who was a Gypsy.
His mother had recently left her husband and the community, bringing him with her. He was in Year 8 (12-13), but had the reading and writing level of a 7-year-old. We did a lot to support him in the school, but he was so far behind the other children and we were expected to support him in an ordinary Year 8 class, the whole thing was impossible.
He should have had access to special one-on-one attention, and additional English and Maths classes, but the funding just wasn't there.
It's such a shame as his mother was clearly trying to do the right thing and leave the community and get her son a proper education.
I really hope that both of them have done well since I left. He was a nice kid.
I'm guessing that community would actually be proud of being ill-educated.
The fact that the parents are expecting her to flee back home not once but several times is fucken scary.
Annnnd they're prepared to turn her away until she submits to darling husband >_>
But apparently after 7 years she does leave her “husband” and is with her parents again
They never said submit. That's something that people are reading into it. The mother simply said to "make a go of it".
If she knocks on my door my bed is warm
I know that a lot of actual Romni people HATE being called Gypsies. At least from personal experience. I have a friend who's from a Romni family and they distance themselves from "Gypsies" and refer to them as trailer trash and a disgrace. It's crazy, in all honesty.
Edit: So, I'm just gonna put it here but this is just what my friend's community has told me and what they practice. Obviously there will be differences and some people WILL refer to themselves as what is considered a slur but let's be real, tons of other groups do the same. I'm not saying that this is 100% the way, there's a ton of different beliefs out there. I'm simply speaking from my experiences from several Romni communities that have been very vocal about the use of Gypsy and their dislike of it. :)
Yes! I think of this every time I see this show. It is quite literally a slur for Romani people and it needs to not be a thing
@@aurorahedges6824 Oh absolutely. And many who consider themselves true Romni don't agree with many practices in these shows. The families I know at least educate their kids and keep the inbreeding to a minimum though I'm sure that varies between families.
I think there is a big difference though between calling yourself Romni or a gypsy. One is an etnecity with culture and history, and the other are just uneducated rural people who live in trailers.
@@maximillian1109 Yes and no. Gypsy is a slur against the Romni people, used for many generations. At this point, true Romni people refer to themselves as Romni, while their counterpart, Gypsies, are more of the trailer living inbred generations. That's the distinctions made to me by an actual Romni family. Many true Romni do not accept Gypsies because they believe they have bastardized their culture. Technically they are the same but still different
As a gypsie myself, um... thats her own issue. It doesn't matter.
“She has to do the best she can in life-“
Ma’am she already was and YOU ruined it.
She is actually the first gypsy bride that I can say, is beautiful, naturally beautiful. ...has complete common sense, & is a good woman/ worker.
I hope she finds happiness, cause ain't with him, & that caravan.
I hope they do a follow up on her.
Don't you remember the 16 year old that told off her mother to go to nursing school and told the guy her mom wanted her to marry "I don't need anything from you thanks enjoy the party bye"
@@esmeraldatrinidad6163 that's all true, but she did have the tacky wedding tho .
This one I feel really is the first to have everything on her plate squared off .
@@alliekattlopez5535 she never got married she ended up going to school and dating a classmate
Violet Anne is my aunty and I can assure you she is very happy and still happily married with 2 kids nowadays
I wonder if it has anything to do with her being the first adult bride we've seen.
I used to work at a hospital (in America) and one of the head gypsies in my area would frequent for health complications and it got so bad that the family other than his wife were not allowed into the hospital. They were caught breaking into other patient rooms looking for valuables. It was such an issue that the hospital staff would be alerted if he was admitted.
Stealing from people in hospital is pretty low. What cretins!
One of my classmates is a gypsy and it's scary how women are belittled in this culture. She's only 21 ans pressured to find a husband, she was battered by her boyfriend and everyone went against her for telling the police and not just submitting to him, even her own parents... That's just terrifying
This just breaks my heart
The west is really soft on crime.
As soon as I heard she had a job, I was singing, "She worked hard for the money. So hard for the money, but now she's a gypsy bride".
This is so good, I sang it in my head 🤣🤣
@@bluebabyeyes21 I sang it out loud in the kitchen 😆 couldn't resist.
Amazing
@@Smaugette 🤣🤣 could only imagine
These are fundamentalist gypsies, they are minority sect in our heritage. This show really trained you well to hold a prejudice against us as a whole.
The fact she said “do not get married” after getting married…poor thing. This sounds bad, but I hope she’s divorced by now (since this was so long ago) and living her life and happy 🥺
Someone wrote she is divorced by now (after 7yrs) has a job and her parents did take her back in, good for her
@@Sly-Moose and that’s an awful thing to write 🙄 hopefully you’re either trolling or below the age of 10
@@sonjakovacevic1535 I’m glad to hear!! Sorry I missed that comment. But I do hope it’s true
@@sonjakovacevic1535 also I think they meant it in a way of like…possible DV for example maybe. With how controlling the men are mixed with how independent she is. But they could’ve also not meant it that way so lol
For her sake, I hope she was just saying that 16 is too young to get married.
Lol, Ken it’s not a do-rag - he’s a Sikh - it’s religious headwear.
Thank you! I was curious about that. Is it like wearing a turban, but more convenient?
He s to murican to know about Other culturs and relligion
Is there a proper term for what he’s wearing?
I literally searched through the comments to find someone talking about this 😅😅 thank goodness I'm not the only one 💯💯😂
@@kingofravens215 it's called a turban
I watched my big fat gypsy wedding at the ripe age of 13 and 14. This led to me having nightmares of becoming a gypsy bride. It’s sad that this is their lives and my nightmare 😬
@TheRealBandito They were 13/14 and nobody controls what nightmares their brain gives them at night
The UK’s relationship with Travellers (“gypsy” is a derogatory term here) is very turbulent. There’s a lot of aggression that comes from both sides. I don’t agree with people who are nasty to Travellers, but I can kind of understand what they’re concerned about. Often times, Travellers bring a lot of trouble with them and leave community areas in a total mess. They can take over community/residential spaces and push residents out, get into fights with people and police forces, steal stuff from peoples property. But like with any group, they’re the loud minority. Then on the other side, you have nastiness in the form of bullying and straight up assaults, with people treating them like crap or even going as far as to jump them in the street purely because they live differently or because they’ve been taught by UK society that it’s okay to mistreat them. We had a Traveller boy in my school and he was regularly beaten into hospital simply because his family were Travellers. Like a lot of things in the UK, it gets really nasty.
Now I see where America gets it from. Like father, like son
@@Sly-Moose If you live in Europe, you ll know all about gypsies, and their lifestyle...look up documentaries about it on youtube, you ll be shocked
@@Sly-Moose Yeah, the UK gets really closed-minded and rough at times. Lots of bigots in the form of White Van Men, middle/upper class white women (JK Rowling being the perfect example of that one) and even your bog standard chav.
In my country they are protected like endangered species you're not allowed to lay hand on them but they are allowed to do all that you said to you and won't be punished for it.
That's how I kind of assumed things to be in Europe. My grandfather came over to the US from Latvia and he would talk about having to watch out for gypsies that might get ya.
"they make it sound so horrible" yeah that's because it is that horrible. it may not quite be a death sentence but it is a life sentence
i kind of got these weird chills when flies randomly got stuck in her dress... it was kind of like the universe saying DONT DO IT :( it breaks my heart to see her give up such a great independent life as a woman at her age, many of us strive to have that life such as myself. I pray that she finds happiness in whatever path she chooses, i am not one to judge.
@V P lol okay
@V P bahaha who knows i just thought it was a funny thought that crossed my mind when i saw those flies and the way i was feeling about the whole situation
@V P lol
They did it because a gypsy is a fly's natural habitat.
In the UK there's Roma Gypsies and Irish Travelers - They're two different groups. Irish travelers originate from Ireland and Roma people I think originally come from south-east Asia. But they tend to be lumped together however its two distinct cultural and ethnic groups.
Ken and Buff Pro not knowing a Sikh turban calling it a do - rag had me rolling around on the floor hahahahahaha, keeping the curls fresh hahahahahahaha
Same here as an Indian it really cracked me up 🤣😂
It’s weird to think the appropriate marrying age depends on culture. In the gypsy/traveler culture, girls 15, 16, and 17 years old are the right times to get married while the rest of us think that’s too young. Meanwhile this woman is 25 (the normal age for a woman to get married in America) and is an old maid by her culture’s standards.
It’s also interesting that a woman who went against culture by working for years would marry a guy that doesn’t want his business ruined by identifying himself as gypsy or a traveler (meaning he also lives outside of his community) but they’re still choosing to live the gypsy life at home as a married couple.
It’s still their culture at the end of the day. They may want to honor it in their own way and on their own terms :)
The West has prolonged youth and isolate them from the world, most cultures marry in the late teen to early 20's, the West did even 40 years ago.
@@kingcosworth2643 ??? Isolate them from the world? I'm confused, which world are you talking about? Must be an Imaginary world because you can get married on your own at 18, work at 16, live on your own at 16 and drink at 19 (Canada). We don't have the culture of keeping our kids at home until they're married or 50 years old. You get shoved into the real world very quickly here.
@@sarina1234ful When I say 'isolate' I mean shield them from 'adult themes'
@@awilliams7796 true but usually one’s work and home life doesn’t involve splitting between two cultures. Usually it’s one’s work that people worry will ruin their home life. Instead it’s the home life that the groom is trying to keep hidden.
In our area we have 'gypo season', where the gypsies come to town at the same time every year. It's not a nice term to use for them but unfortunately every year during that time crime rates soar, residents and other visitors are harassed and everywhere they've settled ends up ruined, not to mention they often illegally camp on private land. It's a real shame because not all of them are like that but as usual it's the minority giving the rest a bad rap 🙁 it results in the Romani people getting a lot of hate in the UK sadly
Yeah sure it's minority hehehe😓
Minority? Is it though?
Gypsies have a bad reputation in a lot of European countries mine as well. I’ve been lucky to meet both good and bad gypsies but man the bad is really bad. From teen brides, dog fighting, illegal drug trading, cheating like it’s eating etc. But I’ve also met some good guys. My dad’s landlords are two very nice gypsie men that rent out a few houses in my country and across the border. And even they told my dad about all the bad parts and how common it is.
They are extremely marginalized, so a lot resort to the world of crime. The landlord is very kind to rent out a space to a gypsy. He is doing more than giving them a simple home. He gave them a chance for a better life than gypsies usually get.
@@crypticcorgi8280 ah sorry I meant that the landlords are Gypsies
@@crypticcorgi8280 if they’re culture could get as fucked up as that it’s understandable why they are hated, but it’s still terrible how some are just innocent people trying to get around and live but can’t because of the reputation of their own, it’s just a horrible cycle of crime and discrimination
same in Sweden. Part of it is also that they make up 90% of the beggar population. They come over to beg for a couple months, then travel back home, rinse repeat
I feel so terrible for her about how she’s told what to do with marriage, giving up her job just to get married, and telling woman does this and that. I hope she’ll be okay 🙁 and she’s right don’t get married young, enjoy your 20’s! 😁
I'm not a gypsy, but was married at 22. and had two kids by 25... and I did enjoy it! Wouldn't change a thing! Everybody is different, just depends on where you see yourself and what you are willing to sacrifice! Marriage isn't easy at any age, and the older we get the more set in their ways and stubborn people get... As long as you are mature enough to deal with it, nothing wrong with marrying in your early 20's.
@@carybrown3070 sounds like what my mom did! She says she doesn't regret it at all haha
@@carybrown3070 I’m with ya I got to re linked with a girl I dated in middle school and high school been together for 5 years have a baby on the way and wouldn’t change a thing she’s my best friend. But everyone is different i get that but it seems like it’s almost becoming the new college thing. Like “everyone go to college or you won’t be successful” now it’s “enjoy your 20’s don’t settle down young you’ll regret it” idk almost seems like the excuse some people use to mess around all the time 😂😂😂 not everyone obviously.
@@carybrown3070 Yeah I understand that, I have a lot of friends around me that have children or had children by 18-22. But like you said it’s not for everyone 😅
@@carybrown3070 also I was pointing out how much she didn’t really want to give up her job, and not wanting to get married, like these guys said 90% not in for the marriage lol
I snort laughed when you mentioned Stefano from Days of Our Lives. My favorite part of his character arc was when he was in a train explosion, then showed up a month later with no burn scars.
Stephano by all accounts is immortal... he died like 50 times .. and came back.... even after the actor died... Stephano still got away...
@@thisfreakingguy3833 Aw man, he died? He was so fun to watch.
As an american living in the uk, gypsys here have repu8tations for vandalization, harassment and theft when they move through a town. It's so prevalent that the government will put up flyers to avoid traveling when the gypsys are in the are. I personally have never witnessed it but my parents who live in the south of england have. A few of them threatened to steal their my parents dogs. Of course all I have said is anecdotal and I am sure it is a few bad apples that spoil the bunch type situation. So long story short, gypsys do face a large amount of prejudice in england and from what I have heard throughout Europe.
I’m in the Balkans. I did have my dog taken by Gypsies once. They wanted €70 so I could get him back. There was no use in calling the police because they would probably retaliate against us afterwards, so we payed up. Didn’t have any problems with them afterwards.
@@FireGriffon They wanted to steal our firewood, we called the police and they fined them big time. They retaliated by poisoning our dog so I know what you mean. They still circle the neighbourhood looking for goods to steal, everybody is on edge around them, they just don't care about any rules or moral in the country, only their own. But I'd still retaliate, I hate letting criminals do whatever they want, they think they're gods and someone needs to put them back in their place. Our entire family is now in permanent enemy terms with theirs and I don't know what they're gonna do in the future but we did say we'll end them no matter if we get arrested or not so for years now they don't meddle with us but we'll see whether it's because they're just scared or cooking up some trouble for us when we least expect it.
My friend has family in the UK and she was there visiting (before Covid) and they walked by someone on the side of the road playing guitar and everyone started cursing about the "gypsy". They can usually just TELL someone is a gypsy. She showed me pictures of their convoy's taking up entire side roads and everyone gives them a WIDE berth. The UK version and the US version are two VERY different things from what I can tell.
We visited Spain and I was stunned how much they expressed distain for gypsies. It was bad. We did have a tornados that came thru out town and we had gypsies everywhere claiming they could do roofing and construction. They took money and left. It was a big deal with police on the local news warning people to investigate who they hired
I live in Ohio (USA) my mom has told stories of when she worked in a grocery store probably late 80s early 90s & the Manager heard “gypsies were coming”. He had men standing guard over the registers and the women employees following them around the store. 😅 “gypsies” don’t have a good reputation here either
A am an American Gypsy. Let me tell you, reality TV is lying to you. They are following around Hicks with maybe some gypsy heritage in them. Most American and Canadian gypsies are not even close to that. Also yeah the marginalization of gypsies in the UK is crazy. It is correct to say that they do commit a lot of crimes, but that is because they've been systemically marginalized for generations. Most live in a dirt floor makeshift shacks in a first world country. They have to hide their heritage just to get higher education, housing, and job opportunities. So of course A lot of them commit crime.
@Olive i’m canadian and know people who’ve been denied enrolment in the area for juvenile records, would either have to attend a troubled kids centre for education or have to move hours away and appeal to different schools. repeat offenders are born from troubled children who receive condemnation instead of help. and the commenter above is describing a self perpetuating cycle; your grandpa stole food to survive, now you’re denied employment; therefore, you and your further generations steal too. a lifestyle of being a moving convoy of people means discrimination can literally drive you from your homestead, dominate your life, make you easily identifiable. it’s the hopelessness of already being labelled a thief, and the poverty of whoever raised you, that makes the crime cycle continue. i’ve met plenty of people stuck in this cycle in the suburbs, never mind toronto or other canadian cities. it’s a human behaviour to choose the easy route of stealing things, rather than starve your children looking for employment where none will hire~
@@applejuicesip this seems fishy to me...I grew up on a farm and whenever someone shows up willing to pitch in we are always willing to help in return...then again we never had problems with the "gypsies" either maybe it was because they are pretty good at self policing each other idk
I used to work at a department store in Alabama and whenever an alleged gypsy came in to the store the security people would call us at our terminal to watch out for them because they would always bring in these huge baby strollers and stuff the things that they would steal in them.
The reaction from her boss killed me!
7:18 "HUH?!.... You are??" **looking both ways** LMFAO!!
I don't know if it's the same in the States, or even in the rest of Europe, but I'm Portuguese and gipsies really do have a bad rep here. They're a nomadic people since many many years ago, so they can show up anywhere and set up shop even in the most broken down part of your town. Unfortunately, this sense of inventiveness and almost romantic "free like the wind" nature if harshly off-set by their innate sense of getting into trouble.
I'm sure many gipsies are not like this, but every time some gipsy party is involved in some sort of trouble, be it in my town, or over the news, it has always been their fault. They show up wherever they want, set up shop, and from there they live by their own set of rules. Local authority means nothing to them, so they feel culturally obligated to mess with the locals, be it by vandalism, stealing and picking fights with the police. They give no respect and are granted no respect, so I'm not surprised the bride's boss wasn't too keen on employing a gipsy.
Assuming an entire group of people has an innate criminal nature is rather prejudicial.
@@mattmammone2338 Of course it is. That's why I started the second paragraph with "I'm sure not all gypsies are like this". But I also can't walk on eggshells when objectively telling the stories about gypsies that reach our homes over here. If I remembered a positive story, I'd tell it for sure, but all that comes out is negative, unfortunately.
I live by Murphys village Sc a whole big neighborhood of Irish travellers houses/mansions. Odd scene all the windows stay covered most also have a trailers on the property that most actually stay in. Same rep here in the states really
@@Jess-IssaMess Those aren't Roma, they are what we call tinkerers. The are Irish travaler, they don't have the same DNA markers as Romany or speak the same language.
Being Roma I do believe there is alpt more bad then good, the horror stories some of the girls go through in my people from being molested by thier uncles or a family. alot of crooked things go on in our culture and there not willing to change it. we have the highest percentage of death from overdoses, numbers normal cultures don't have to face
@@maji3060 thanks for the insight I know they are called gypsies around here but I understand the difference now
Shes giving me 99% of her freedoms to get married.
Dude when her boss looked at the camera first before making a response lol made me think oh man he might really not like gypsies
My mom, god bless her soul, always wanted to get a gypsy wagon and turn it into a little mobile coffee shop and set up alongside freeways around the country. Now seeing what one of those wagons look like I feel my mom was insane...j/k I still love the idea as I did when I was younger.
I have always wanted a vardo too
The Hunchback of Notre Dame level gypsy wagon is not what they use now. Mostly cheap trailers and RVs, leaving a trail of trash wherever they go.
@@thebarefoothobbit when I was a kid it didnt sound very interesting but now that I'm older I love the idea. She got the idea while we lived in Alaska so the scenery would be awsome.
@@mrs.h2725 nowadays they use roach coaches. To be fair there are some that are well built and maintained. Theres a crap ton her in Vegas so I've seen the good, the bad, ugly...and then the oh damn stay away kuz your gonna get salmonella just looking too long.
@@mrs.h2725 well yeah I just honestly want a decorated stationary one to use like a little she shed haha
It's a whole culture and I'm not part of it so take what I say with a pinch of salt. I am however from the UK so I can speak a bit on the friction between travelers/gypsies Vs gorgers/not gypsies.
There are alot of stereotypes around travelers in UK. The one that most say is that they don't respect woman.
Travellers are often Catholic,less so now. The men work and the woman are homemakers, the daughters are taught how to clean. They have chores and curfews unlike the sons. Travaller men will cheat on their wives with non gypsies but if a wife did that she could be kicked out of their community/family.
They often don't integrate with gorgors. This leads to friction and suspicion between the two different cultures.
I’m not English but I live here and the attitude towards gypsy/traveller culture was completely new to me but I learned quickly! There are many good reasons why they’re aren’t liked in U.K. They don’t believe that the law applies to them unless it’s something that they benefit from. They don’t believe they should pay taxes or contribute to ‘normal’ society at all and wouldn’t if they could. Even the ones in houses are always disputing having to pay for utilities and council taxes.
The true travellers mostly live in caravans and just park themselves off wherever they feel like it, private land or not. And then become a huge nuisance by being rowdy and making a massive mess of wherever they’re living. When it gets too messy, they just pick up and find somewhere else to park. They also put their animals out to pasture wherever they feel like it too, the side of the main roads, wherever. They’re also terrible to their animals especially horses.
There are laws here to protect them to some degree but basically they believe they’re not subject to any kind of social rules. But are always complaining about being discriminated against. They also believe they should be entitled to get everything for free.
They steal and scam people and believe that’s a legitimate way of making money - it’s the ‘gypsy’ way. Which is why people don’t like to hire them or do business with them. If you rent out a reception hall to them for a wedding or whatever, they will trash it and won’t pay for damages or try skip out on paying all together.
A lot of the animosity towards them is more historically based, going way back. But especially in the ‘90s and early 2000’s, they always being problematic. Nowadays tho, it seems like they tend to just keep to themselves or conform somewhat to society. And of course they aren’t all bad, some are really nice people.
I'm dying when Kent call the guy Patka a durag 😂
Poor gal, she's been told all her life that this was the path to happiness. Probably did everything she was told and thought was ''the way'', and now realizes it has all been a bloody lie.
The mom looks way too excited like she’s selling her daughter or something..why does she look so happy?
I wonder if it's a generational thing, because my mother went from "You are 20, don't you dare get married or have kids" to "why haven't you given me grandkids!? You're 22, a year older than me when I had you!"
I wouldn’t call it Stockholm syndrome, I’d call it indoctrination
Fyi the guy with the ”do-rag” is actually a Sikh, its in place of a turban :)) also gypsies/romanys are called Travellers, especially English/Irish Travellers.
I remember when I was in secondary school (high school for US), there was a whole community of gypsies living next to the our school field and once during a lesson we watched a man running after a horse from the field into the parking lot. All of the teachers lost their shit running out into the parking lot. Funniest end to a school day ever :)
Bahahaha! 🤣
"Maybe I'm Gypsy..."
Dane thinking something we've all may have contemplated at one point during this series.
I do like those big blinged out dresses 😆
I hate this stereotypical 50s female role they’ve got going on. I think it’s ridiculous that she had to quit her job. A simple data entry job could be done online that way she could still travel, have a job, earn her own money, and have a little independence. I mean I wish her all the luck in the world but damn did she look unhappy when she got married. That’s not love it’s just security
So she's giving up her job to live the gypsy life.... But he won't show his face coz being pitted as a gypsy might affect his business... So are they traveling or no? What's his business? And won't everyone who has seen the show, know he's a gypsy as soon as he introduces his wife? Or is she going to be confined to the wagon til death do they part? Is this like consensual abduction?
The reason the camera people are always talkin to them while they’re cleaning, is because they’re always cleaning!
I'm very sorry to say, as a Brit, (to answer your question, Ken), that in the UK the general population doesn't treat gypsies very well. They face a lot of discrimination, and there's a stereotype that they steal a lot. Sadly (I hate saying this) I've worked jobs where we've been robbed blind by gypsy women...there are bad eggs in every community. Sadly because of those bad eggs, the whole community suffers because the gen pop thinks wrongly that they -all- steal etc. They are supposed to be protected from discrimination as an ethic group but there's a lot of institutionalised bigotry towards them 😔
Thank you so-so-so much, I am actually crying after seeing one nice comment in a sea of hate and prejudice that this has drummed up for my people.
We don't want to live in make shift dirt floor shacks in a 1rst world country. Of course we want a better education, job opportunities, and a house market that doesn't discriminate against us. But we are extremely marginalized. Of course there are a lot of bad examples but the generations of systematic racism has told us the only way to survive in life is to not play by the rules that work against us.
This arranged marriage stuff only happens with fundamentalist gypsies which is a minority sect within our culture. But it only builds onto this prejudice we face. Justifying the abuse we already receive.
Absolutely this. Its shocking how folk treat gypsy communities here - I know locally folk get banned from pubs just for the assumption they'll do something, pushed off of completely unused brownfield land which isn't even then used for anything, and constantly threatened. Though the concept of private land ownership is a bit squirrley to me anyway 😅 There's a static camps that's been here for at least a couple generations, and what folk have been able to achieve with the little they have been able to carve out for themselves is admirable. Only ever met gypsies who are completely normal people, any wee bits of work I've got done on the house has been to a high standard. Its just outright discrimination as you say, and new land laws for those south of the border will only make it worse
@Olive originally and very very far back, it seemd they cane from India and the surrounding regions. They were called gypsies because it was wrongly believed for a long time they came from Egypt.
Irish travellers aren't from the east, as far as I remember, but genealogy shows they have been ethnically separate from the rest of the Irish population for a very long time.
Don't forget, countless gypsies were murdered during the Holocaust. They are an ethnic group, but they include various different groups and cultures who identify differently from one another (an Irish traveller is not the same as a Roma for example).
@Olive we are an ethnic group, yes. We started out in India a very-very long time ago. But you do not need a nationality to be an ethnicity. Jewish people were still an ethnicity before and after Israel. You can just be a nomadic ethnicity. Any ethnicity is a group of people who share the same lineage and culture.
@@laurabrown2982 very accurate, I am not used to seeing some one who knows their stuff about my culture. Not even a lot of people know how terribly my people suffered during the Holocaust. 1/3rd of my people where just Thanos snapped off the face of the planet and it is just a footnote in history books that people don't know about.
It is one of the biggest reasons there is a lot of poverty and crime with modern Gypsies. You can look this up, after the survivors survived concentration camps, they had no attempt to repatriotize us back to the countries we where born in. They left us at the doors of the camps because we were historically nomadic. European gyspies lost everything, our homes, our generational wealth, and family. America was in charge of finding justice for us. When they Nazis tried to cite a book about how it wasn't about Jew's race but culture as legal defense after the war. No one bought it. They then sited a book about how the genocide was not about the Gypsy's race and everyone bought it until the 1970's. By the time they got around reparations for our people. The most of the survivors where already dead. America had their own racial hang ups at the time so the more swarthy skinned Gypsies seemed to receive no help.
What is sad is "cultural differences" is cited to to this day as a justification of the prejudice we face today. Siting arranged marriages as one of the many reasons. But only a small sect of us even do that. Most of us have modernized with society. It is just an excuse for their racism.
'Gypsies' is kind of seen as a derogatory term in the UK now, so 'Travellers' are what they are referred as, even if they stay put xD
so they're not allowed to call themselves Gypsies?
@@KemoneArmstrong Of course they are, wasn't my point... Ken questioned why they were called 'Travellers'
It's derogatory everywhere. In the US many *literally* don't care & don't want to learn. It doesn't matter "what it means to ME" -- only g**** can say g****
I've waited for another gypsy wedding for so long!! That's exactly what I need right now 🙃
I didn't know that ANYONE would ever
use the phrase "I need a gypsie wedding".
@@ballisticbadger9955 yup, its a miracle performed by Ken and Buff
Ewa your tastes can be freaky
@@OptimusPrime04 they sure can
It's trippy watching these out of order; new arm tat, no new arm tat lol
This is why I’m not marrying a dude. Ken, Dane and Sylvester Stallone are taken so I’m not interested. 🤣
literally
Can these girls like break free and decide their own way if they really want to? Like I dont understand why she would wanna give up her independence to be married..
No they can't. If they get divorced etc they are usually shunned by their families. If they're not married by like 18/19 they are basically considered old and unwanted. It's so sad. The men do what they want and the girls cook and clean.
Also their whole community usually shun them which would be so scary for a 16 year old. Who would the turn to? So they usually stay through abuse, it's so sad.
she grew up being told that her goal in life should be to find a husband and be a mother. her outlook on life has been morphed by her culture ):
You’re talking about a culture in which girls are taken out of school in elementary school and taught to care for a family. Their entire life revolves around the family. Being shunned by the community means they have to live in a world they aren’t prepared for.
They end up trapped in the way of life because they are taken out of school at such a young ages. This makes running away and getting a job to support yourself hard
So- Gypsies in the UK... I honestly feel like an open person, willing to give anyone a chance- thought the same about gypsies. I'm sure there's good groups and such out there- but you do hear things. Theres a street where they go through peoples bins and steal bikes etc- they kinda just toss the rubbish out of the bin and into the street with the mentality of 'it no longer belongs to them because they've thrown it out'
Near me there was also a few gypsies that moved into a park. I walked past, they were dancing around and I think I mentioned outloud that it was cool. Sudden silence, everyone turned to stare- I kinda just backed out and the dancing began again. Next day there were police everywhere due to people getting assaulted.
I didn't think I held anything on them, as I was like 'Probably a small group making things bad' but I went to a bar that had some gypsies in. Was totally cool with it, went to get a drink- one of them bumped into me and started to do weird hand movements as they spoke- I instantly had a sinking feeling as I spoke and I held my hands over my pockets while I talked. Some of his friends were trying to get behind me as he moved his hand around. I had never been so sure that they were trying to pick my pocket- the guy looked sad for a moment then turned away.
I've never had every fiber of my being instantly like 'Protect pockets- stay alert- get away'... it honestly made me wonder if I was imagining it and I was being biased- I want to keep my mind open and accepting but I honestly couldn't help but have bad feeling instantly. I keep thinking back and being like 'What was that...? Was I imagining things or did I judge them based on their culture?'.
I'm still open minded, I'd still accept someone if they said they were a gypsy after I got to know them- but I do feel like there's now a barrier that I can't help have up.
Gypsies are a protected group under the Equality Act 2010 in the UK, but still face discrimination. They have a bad reputation from antisocial groups of gypsies who leave household waste and cause public disturbances. I remember a time when it felt like every newspaper was talking about gypsies daily.
When I lived in Texas, we had a Traveller season. During the colder months, we knew they were coming. They weren't the best group, often fighting or jumping others, in trouble with the law, and always trashing the place. It got so bad that majority of the towns businesses that I worked in refused them service. They would complain but never win since many people weren't scared of them. One proposed to me once and I was immediately like, "No thanks. I'm good."
Often they flaunt money, the fancy cars (that they ran until they stopped working with no maintenance done), and destroy property. Some were nice. But not all. It was sad really.
Just got lunch and opened UA-cam, perfect timing.
Her boss isn't wearing a do-rag, he's Sikh and has uncut hair as part of his religion (I think uncut hair is called Kesh, which is one of the 5Ks)
There are quite a few Sikh people in the UK, especially in the Midlands where it sounds like she's from, and they make up an important part of the community :)
Buff and Ken saying that the Punjabi guy is trying to keep his waves fresh 🤣😂🤣😂 who's gonna tell them 😂🤣
“Traveller” is a softer way of saying that someone is a member of Romani culture. Many people do not like the term “gypsy” so “traveller” is used. They don’t necessarily all live nomadically.
Thank you Ken, as i too absolutely hate when the vast majority of character conflict can be resolved by a conversation.
I literally love gypsy brides uk! Been watching since the 1st episode in 2010.
(Most American gypsies come from the UK apparently!)
Violet didn't want to get married, it was her age and her mum that wanted her to settle down.
I think they come from Ireland, not the UK.
@@Jay_one There's Irish travellers, Romania gypsies and English gypsies.
Violet is an English gypsy, there is irish/Romania travellers in the US, so you're right!
( my dad's family come from Irish travellers and I know a few gypsies from different clans)
@@TheGothicMother the English Gypsies usually come from Ireland. They often have a very particular accent that is similar to some Irish accents as well.
Hi gypsy here (16) lol
that advice is so wise. I almost got engaged because I was confused and scared of not being able to have a choice in who I marry anymore I wanted to convince myself that I wanted it but I regretted it as soon as I said it. I had no idea who he was and if I wanted to get to know him I wasn’t allowed a social life or go to school anymore. I am so thankful that I said that I didn’t want to marry that guy.
I still remember the day my mum told me some guy wants to ask to marry me my heart fell to my stomach it was like I watched my whole life fall apart. I’ve seen what gypsy marriages look like it’s hell (from my experience) and yeah people are cruel to us but I didn’t face any problems like that I’ve only seen my father and my mum get thrown out of shores (rightfully so they would shop lift)
I fund it funny that I was surrounded by crime and I’m scared to even throw a paper on the ground or even steal stuff lol dad was a drug dealer mum stole a bunch grandma is scamming people in Poland. Life’s crazy man.
(Dating isn’t allowed for women only men can have girlfriends but women have husbands 🤮🔫)
This may come across as prejudiced, they are not my prejudices, just an explanation.
The reason the Irish traveling community (I'm not talking about Romani) have such a bad reputation in Ireland, at least in rural communities, is because there have been many cases of them setting up camp on private land like farms, then trash the area, take things, don't dump their sewage responsibly, basically have to get the police involved to get them to move along and leave the cleanup to the landowner.
This has happened to my uncle and they essentially prevented him from being able to use one of his fields for his livelihood for weeks until the police got them to go.
Obviously this is not all of the community, but enough to build a bad rep over generations. There's very little done on either front to foster goodwill between general society and them. Also it's always the trouble makers that make news and perpetuate the stereotype of antisocial behaviour.
I went to primary school with a few girls whose families had settled and they were lovely, I was friends with some, not with all, because like with any individual there are personality clicks and clashes
Definitely true. My family/friends in the UK talk trash on Gypsies all the time. Apparently they’re known for rolling into town a few times a year getting trashed a the pubs and fighting, stealing, causing all sorts of problems and then they run from it and move on
In Serbia you can't miss gypsies, they are much darker than us, they have different accents, can't pronounce some sounds, they also have their own language. And sadly usually no education
I used to run a carnival, and all of the food and game owners were gypsies.
They didn't mind being called that, they called themselves gypsies.
They are wonderful, successful people.
Great business people!!
I'm still good friends with a few of them even though we haven't worked together for years ❤️.
FINALLY THE RETURN! I’m getting married in two months and I watch and rewatch your Gipsy wedding videos with my fiancé because we *definitely* want our wedding to be equal dumpster fire 🔥
Edit: okay I just got to the end of the episode and this wasn’t a dumpster fire, it was just sad 😣 Poor girl, marriage shouldn’t and doesn’t have to be the end of your freedom! Your dreams and independence is important and the right guy will embrace that and help you reach your dreams! I’m graduating from college a month before the wedding, and my future husband is moving with me to Los Angeles so I can pursue my dream job as a screenwriter. I’m so so sorry she had to give up her job and independence!
Her mother just seems like a Miserable Human Being !!! I feel soo BAD for this poor young girl ... I hope she finds a way to occupy her time with something that brings her joy ! - 👊🏻 From 🇨🇦
8:15 yeah gypsies aren't treated well in the uk at all, and they're called travellers because they say 'gypsy' is offensive! And as for businesses not wanting them in their establishment, I'd say probably 90% + of UK gypsies I've ever met especially the men are extremely aggressive and confrontational toward non gypsies. They also move around from place to place in big travelling groups with all their caravans, break onto privately owned grounds and make camp there illegally, wreck the area, leave bags and bags of rubbish, hunan waste qnd sometimes unwanted pets in the feild when they move on causing the landowner and expensive amount of cleanup!
Yeah they don't have a great rep over here....!
IT'S TIME BOYS
I lived in Italy and saw firsthand the issues with gypsies. I understand the reason why people have a bad view of them. Pickpocketing, squatting, littering, and scams were a common thing we ran into. This was a problem in Paris too. As a Canadian it was shocking, I've only seen a police report about a gypsy group that was shoplifting our stores when I worked at Danier leather. They used strollers, booster bags and long skirts to conceal the jackets, they'd cut off the security tags with dog nail clippers and tuck the tags into the pockets of other jackets. That was my first experience with gypsies until I went to Europe. I wanted to believe that the stereotype wasn't true but sadly it isn't.
The fact that Ken name-checked a recurring character from Days of Our Lives is so worrisome.
I actually found my soul mate when I was 20 and we got married right before I turned 21. A family friend screamed at my husband on our wedding day because I was too young, in his opinion.
We are still happily married 20 years later. To each their own.
May I ask how old he is?
man, you and buff are the dynamic duo for real, love the buffpro content man!
I live in Poland and here the gypsies also have a bad reputation. While working in the store, I was robbed by a gypsy woman and had to return the money to the store from my own pocket. Later, I found out that my friends from the shops nearby, seeing that someone looks or behaves like a gypsy, do not serve him in the store. When I was little, my parents scared me that if I didn't behave well, the gypsies would come and take me away from them.
I don't know about the rest of the UK, but where I'm from in Scotland, we used to get gypsies parking their caravans in local beauty spots, or in the grounds of the local castle, they tear up all the grass and make such a mess, I think that's where the bad rep comes from. The local council ended up putting up barricades and they've not been back since.
Edit - I'm not saying ALL gypsies are like this, only the ones I've seen personally.
Her bosses reaction looked like he already knew and the TLC people told him before filming started.
I waited all year for you to wish me a Happy Birthday and it's finally here! Thanx Ken and Buff! IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!!!
I worked at a place that a lot of gypsies would go to, Wildest night I can remember was when over 15 of them started a fist fight in the parking lot and were just laying eachother out with knockouts.
Thank you the video, just what I need on a Friday evening in South Africa💖
Holy shit man I watched the managers reaction to her telling him she’s a Gypsies like 50 times now.
We Stan my man Ken for making time with his kids, and making sure his wife is happy and healthy
That's how it should be - a team effort!
I work as security at clubs and we're not allowed gypsies in, the one time we did they started a fight.
The flies: "Don't do it!!"
Everyone: "Kill them!!"
Those horse drawn wagons are definitely what some travelers live in, some have switched to campers and rv’s. People outside of the culture have kind of appropriated them and turned it into a fantasy Ren faire thing
For those interested it appears that Violet Ann finally divorced her husband after about 7 years of her trying to make the marriage work. According to her, her parents could see how miserable she was and let her come back home because they wanted happy Violet back.
After her divorce was finalized she threw a divorce party with karaoke, a cake and her altered wedding dress.
"As I unpicked the stitches to modify it, I felt as though I was unpicking the misery of my marriage. It was brilliant. And I went back to the same bakery that made my wedding cake - they’d never made a designer divorce cake before."
Tldr: She got divorced, threw a rager, got a job and is happy 😁
Gypsies do have a pretty bad reputation here in the UK. I've watched a lot of this show, and in most of the episodes they talk about how they keep the wedding venue secret until the last minute because if the owners find out it's a gypsy wedding they'll cancel. Gypsy weddings have a reputation for fighting and property damage here, I think.
New here and i swear i can't get enough of yall! I'm going way back and this is so entertaining 😂
The groom has another secret family FOR SURE 😄 that’s why he doesn’t wanna be filmed! Gypsys are usually super proud of being gypsy 🤷🏼♀️
Many of you don't understand the Gypsy culture. It's not at all like western or even European culture. There is a huge stigma around Gypsies. They always keep to themselves and are constantly squatting on people's property. Maybe it's different in UK now, but I lived there for 13 years (1970-1983) and they set up in people's fields, they would eat the local wildlife or even steal from the farmers. It was a bitch to get them removed. A lot of UK countryside is rural, and people are very superstitious, so when the Gypsies knocked on your door selling flowers (usually stolen from your own yard) you would buy them for fear of being cursed or hexed (yes seriously). Though that said, the Gypsies can be very loyal if they like you. A friend of my father's just gave them a portion of his land so they wouldn't squat. They trusted him to store all their 'treasures' when they would travel. Their caravans are beautifully painted and designed. My mother used to threaten the kids that if we were naughty, they would give us to the Gypsies.
It's so sad because she is saying "marriage" takes away your freedoms. But it's not actually the marriage at all its the person she is marrying.
Right? There's nothing I stopped doing just because I got married.
9:48 lol what if they left their drink on the roof of the car & forgot it? 🤣🤣🤣
The Honeymoon period is supposed to be the happiest time and she's this depressed. That's sad. It's like she's given up everything for nothing but the right to say she's married.
I LOVE that when Dane was saying "good advice for a nice healthy relationship" his voice cracked because he just couldn't believe it haha!
True story, one time at a bar in the UK my cousin got into an argument with a gypsie and the gypsie must of rang up all his friends and family because a bunch of vans showed up filled with very angry people it was nuts !
sounds like any saturday night in doncaster :D
@@poppyfalconer4722 remind me to avoid Doncaster then! 😆
I grew up next to the biggest Irish traveler settlement in the US.
I was best friends with a young girl from the community growing up. She was the last one in school with us and I’ll never forget when her parents took her out.
She now lives in a huge house with kids and is married to someone she said she didn’t want to marry.
They have very strong traditions and reputations that keep them trapped in the system.