800KW 12 CYLINDER WAUKESHA DIESEL GENERATOR START UP
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Our Buddy Mike ( SmallEngineMechanic) gets a chance to start and run an 1100 HP 12 Cylinder 800 Kilowatt Waukesha Generator
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Tell mike there is a Waukesha gen at the manchchester, nh. Waste water plant that has 100 hours of use and 4160volt. I think it is a 6 or 8 cyl. They would give it away if u r insured.
In 1974 I was working as a mechanic in Indonesia in the oilfield for an oil company. They had a Waukesha exactly like that one that ran a gas compressor, but instead of diesel, it ran on natural gas straight from the gas wells. The engine had a gas regulator and carburetor on it. It also had a huge radiator like that. It ran continuously 24 hours a day although occasionally because of a fluctuation in gas pressure from the wells, the engine would die, so I would have to go out to the pad and get it restarted(sometimes in the middle of the night with just a flashlight.) I had to do an overhaul on that engine one time. That's the largest engine I've ever overhauled. The access covers at the bottom are how you get to the connecting rods and each cylinder has it's own cylinder head. I set up a chain hoist up above the engine to lift the heads with it, The top of each piston has a threaded hole on each side so you can fasten a short chain, then you use the chain hoist to lift each piston and connecting rod assembly out. They're too heavy to lift out by hand. I remember the pistons were as big as a bucket.
They also had 3 or 4 398G Cat engines with gas compressors behind them too.
They're still just as heavy today, lol.
5790 cubic inch engine
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Waukesha gas company engines are still around today
Mike isn't so much of a "small" engine mechanic anymore, not with the Caterpillars and other huge gen sets he's collecting anymore. Can't wait to see him tear into the big stuff and get it running too!
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Just wait until he finds a Cooper Bessemer GMVA
Saw Mike talking to the guy, I thought this was going to be Mike's next project.
If Joe would sell it, Mike would have bought it!!☺
I worked for Waukesha Motors right out of high school, in the bar stock room moving the raw bar stock to the various machines that made the engine parts. Next to the stock room was the boiler room and then the engine test room. Eight of these engines being tested maybe not all running at the same time but usually four or six under full load the rest were getting hooked up or unhooked. The pounding, cement vibrating, air pulsating of the working engines was indescribable the only other place in this world that even comes close was being between the two boilers of a Navy destroyer at 30 knots.
These engines saved countless lives keeping the power working in the hospitals by operating the generator on one end of the engine and the ac compressor on the other end with that function in mind that is why I think they were manufactured to be this big, supply the power and keep the air comfortable so most people never knew the rest of the area was in the dark.
Cool story Frank!!☺
Yes, Great story Frank. Thanks!
80 litre, first built by Wakesha in 1962, if you look close you'll see dual starters, one per side, and dual injector pumps connected through a bell crank shaft running through the block. Injectors weigh about 35 pounds, burns close to 100 gallons an hour! I serviced one monthly at LA DWP that pumped water as a backup to an the old main pump station at the Van Noman complex. Story was, it originally pumped out dry docks at Long Beach Naval station. It had a 14 inch inlet, 12 inch outlet on the pump, moved about 14 cubic feet per second of water. Beautiful sounding engine, my favorite of the 60+ engine fleet for its sound.
Esse motor é uma obra de arte.
O barulho dele, é sinfonia para nossos ouvidos.😮🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
I had started in the offshore oilfields back in the early 70s working on generators - there were 1000s of those engines on drilling rigs -
It was very common to see those Waukesha engines in the gulf of Mexico on drilling rigs - there were often 3 of those and 2 six cylinder 400 kw generators for the 100s of thousand watt mercury vapor lights all over a off shore drilling rig -
At night the floor is lit up just like the noon day Sun - so there were dedicated lighting load generators -
The old rigs used engines to drive the draw works and turntable so they only needed 1500 KW along with 400 KW generators for the lights around the rig -
Most of those older rigs were up grated in the 80s to all electric - also they could drill far deeper -
With the Waukesha engines with 3 generators phased in together they could generate 2400 kw -
We bought retired locomotives with EMD engines - on a locomotive they might be rated at 2000 kw - we up grated them to put out 6000 kw or 6 mw -
Today a rig with 3 EMDs might generate 18 MW max - that's about enough power to run around 12000 homes in the US & going by the numbers that would be some were around 4500 gallons of fuel an hour at 18 MWs it sounds like a lot but not so in the oilfield - also those engines run for 20 to 30 yrs on a locomotive - we often changed the generator skid out once a yr with a replacement or reworked it once a yr on the rig -- it's the same today -
That was crazy! It's so nice that guys like Joe brings these beauties to the shows so we can drool and dream a little... Not cheap transporting it or running it! Great video!
Thanks Bud!! Yeah the engine is the cheapest part of that whole operation!!☺
These engines were being made in the early-mid 60s . . . power rating continuous duty 60%, intermediate duty 80%, and standby 100%. Yes, many of these units were installed in hospitals and municipal buildings as standby power, but many also went to offshore oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico near Louisiana and Lake Maracaibo in Venezuela. Note the output to the dual AirResearch turbochargers feeding dual intercoolers. These engines could still produce more power when they were fitted with water-cooled intake manifolds. When these engines were running under full power on a test stand the exhaust scroll housing would glow a dull cherry red . . . memories of a then young gearhead. Waukesha made many smaller engines that were installed in cranes, e.g., Bucyrus Erie and Manitowoc, and agricultural tractors, e.g., Olivers with lanova energy cells. Additionally, Waukesha made the single-cylinder diesel engine for cetane testing.
The slower it idled, the faster Mike's heart rate went! LOL!
Few years ago our huge hospital was tore down from being abandoned for 10+years 150+room surgery er pt obgyn had it all back in the day down to a 3 room hospital for light care. Anyway it had 2 engines like that for back ups they just scrapped it killed me but they guy that owned the building didnt want to sell anything unless he got 80%+ new value even if they havent ran in all that time.
Yeah that's a shame!!☺
Deep in the basement of the now permanently closed Harrah's casino in Reno is a giant backup generator made from a WW2 destroyer engine. It's a relic of their cold war era fallout shelter and tunnels.
Interesting!!☺
@@805ROADKING I'm currently working on getting access. If I can I'll do a video.
Lets see.
Great
A vid would be great there’s nothing like engine porn
Waukesha’s are great engines. I did a power plant with 3 v-12’s and one V-16 spark ignited engines burning natural gas. 5,000 KW total.
Thats one hell of an oversized cell phone holder. Jesus. I wouldn't want to have that thing flapping everywhere.
That looks like a Marathon Electric Generator. I believe Waukesha used Marathon Electric Gen sets. Both built in Wisconsin
I am Service Technician of Diesel Generators ☺☺👌👌👌👌👌
giant machine
I have a tiny one lung diesel like the one they use to charge the batteries. Its a 7.5HP liquid cooled Kubota diesel. It was a Tri-pack off the side of an OTR semi. It had an alternator, A/C compressor, and a good sized self regulating generator on it. It was of course made to be run while the truck was parked to have heat and A/C, and 120 and 220VAC from that tiny engine instead of a big 15 litre diesel drinking a gallon an hour minimum of diesel for the same thing. I use it as my camping genset now. It is heavy as sin for its size, but very reliable, quiet, and puts out all the power I need it to. I can even run my little 120/240VAC 180amp inverter stick welder from it no problem.
That Kubota is a cool lil' engine!!☺
Work the Kw back and it will give you a rough estimate of the hp of the engine
Give Mike a couple of weeks and he'll be working on his own one. GO FOR IT, MIKE! - Joe -
Yeah Buddy!! That wouldn't surprise one bit!!☺
Those engines were built as diesel or natural gas. Waukesha gen sets are working all over the world. They do not make diesel versions any more just natural gas.
In the usa that would be set at 1800 rpm 1500 rpm in Europe
Many years ago (Mid 90's) I serviced Hydrovane compressors for a guy and one job was at a Kelvinator white goods plant..They pressed all the stove and fridge metal stuff and I saw this massive gen set with cables coming out of it the size of your forearm and the huge twin turbos sitting over the enormous V12 engine painted red but looked just like that...I just thought Fark that's gotta have some punch...Never saw it go tho...According to the calculator(7"x8"x12) it has capacity of 60 litres/3660 ci.!!
Hospital wants old gen set back found out newfangled one installed isn't as reliable as this beast... lol
What I think is so neat is that I live in Waukesha WI and about 15 minutes from me on the west side of downtown is where engines like these were made all those years ago.
Like a kid in a candy store. Mikey Likes
Turbo diesel? Thought I heard a turbo whine in there.
Coal roller, none compliant and out the door.
From what Year is it Just Asking 😏
I worked on several 5782D on drilling rigs. Now caterpillar has become the standard
That’s absolutely amazing.
I’ve seen a larger generator engine, but not on a trailer! What a cool thing to get to fire up.
If I order one from Amazon, is it ONE DAY SHIPPING?
Love this. The size and the sound of it starting and running is cool. Thanks for the video. From when days when stuff was quality made in the USA with us workers.
Awesome engine, Road King. In the 90’s, I worked around a Cat 800kW generator. It was a 3516, V16, which also ran at 1200 RPM, on natural gas. Put out nearly 1200 HP, continuously (not a standby). My memory says the engine and generator weighed 27,000 lbs. Ten years ago, I was working around a Cat 3608 diesel generator. Puts out 2500 kW from a 3500 HP engine. Big monster straight 8, with air starters.
I work on natural gas 3516s and 3606-8-12-16s. Neat to see the 3608 as a diesel makes that much: as a gas job its barely 2000.
@@salamisalesexpress cool. I think the 3516 produces about 2000 HP on diesel.
@@gregholloway2656 1200hp would be pretty under stressed for it.
1200 RPM = 20 rev sec. Pole pairs = freq/rev per sec ; 60/20 = 3 pole pairs. That is a six pole generator.
What a beautiful monster! I don't think I've ever seen Mike so happy!
At 800K it would need to make 1100hp, so it probably makes around 1400hp at a minimum.
One ad said 1,072hp.
@@bills6093 at what rpm 1000
@@terrywitt5543 Ad only listed max as 1200rpm. There could be different HP levels, but the one in the ad was an 800kw genset with L5100, so it should be similar.
Yeah the plate on the engine lists it at 1200 RPM!!☺
@@805ROADKING Roadking did they pre lube it
If I had a place to put these massive generators and engines I would keep them to show future generations
Roughly 1 hp is 0,750 kw. So it takes about 1200 hp to generate 800 kw.
If you know the kva figure you know the power needed. Kva=hp.
Kva × lossfactor (0,???)= Kw. Lossfactor(dont know the proper english name) can be between 0,85 to 0,?? 60/75%. The engine has to deliver the full 100% + friction etc.
At 09;40 these hand pumps normaly have a double function. Because these units are only in use when the power supply fails they seldom run. Oil drips down to the sump. With this handpump you can pump oil in the engine so preprime it. And by changing some valves indeed pump the oil out.
Interesting that it is electric start. Alot of these extremely large diesels were Air start. And that is true what Mike said a about being over square. Again, these large engines usually had a much longer stroke than bore. Great video guys. Very interesting.
To drive a 800kVA Generator you need at least 1200HP
I was an Electrical Superintendent for the Air Force. The biggest generators I worked on were 1000KW Worthingtons. The Air Force had much bigger ones. These engines ran at only 250 rpm They put out 2400/4160 directly from the generator.
I lost count of all the gensets I built working at Waukesha Engine Power Systems. That's a 12 cylinder VHP engine. The most built model. All gone now. GE took us over and moved operations to Canada. I was fortunate to be able to retire.
Next up on the SmallEngineMechanic channel we load bank a 800kw V12 genset! Man that thing is cool. Looks like it belongs in an old diesel locomotive.
Removed from a hospital for something computerized with emissions I bet 🤣
they haven’t changed much to be honest, i work on a few just orange paint
Kind of looks like an Alco engine and sounds like one idling.
Yeah Buddy!! It looks alot like the Alco!!☺
You guys, some people might not get it, but that is way cool! Thanks for the vid that shows such a beast running. On a flat bed. Portable. They could do concert power with that( many shows don't use "house" power, but bring in horsepower and generate their own). I'm babbling, but just wow! Thank you!
Electro mechanical ..BEAST
..purring like a BIG kitten...lol...good one, keep safe..
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Curious what hospital? Bethesda maybe? I used to run test a similar unit at Christ Hospital but was 12 cly Cat. Just imagine the battery bank in place if the diesel didn't fire, massive redundant system.
Mike could probably start his own power company with all his generators!
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
I worked at a university where there was a 1000 KW Waukesha 480 volt, 3 phase, delta wound generator. It was in their power plant which had a 7 MW generator fed by a coal fired boiler. Waukesha, Wisconsin was probably where it was built.
1200 rpm is 20 revs per second, so does that mean the generator is a 6 pole machine for 60 c/s... It's been a few years since I did electro-mech engineering.
That toy is working like if it just came out of the assembly line, no oil leaks, fast starting, that engine maybe around 1600 HP, outstanding and impressive, most kind of you for sharing it with us, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres
If you think that puppie is big you should see a 9390 Waukesha just look one of them up it’s a 16 cylinder
We used the inline 6 version that were the same length just half the cylinders. Ours were 800 hp, so you can figure 1600 to 1800 hp. They will come apart at 1300 rpm. Seen it happen.
Come on out to the gas fields and crawl up on a Cat 3616 when she's humming along if you want your sticker to peck out.
How much horse power is the power capacity of the propulsion engine?
Nice, if it was hospital or even a hotel like our they are on a maintaince and start up every moth schedule. But really internate they are like new. Should last decades longer. LOL
Farking hell - ever heard of image stabilisation? Almost got an epileptic fit happening watching this.
Why do people call it walk-uh-shaw?
It's pronounced walk-ee-shuh
1200rpm is not 1 or 2 revs per minute oh hell not even per second lol. That's a whopping 20 revs per second.
Mike is giddy, like a kid in a candy shop LOL, great to see someone so passionate and knowledgeable enjoying an amazing piece of machinery
Wow! That thing reminds me of some of sets that are made by Dale Electric. Their speciality seems to be large industrial, Government and military applications. It also has some similarities to a huge Paxman set that I once saw at a machinery sale - Sixteen cylinders, I think it was.
I'd bet this Wuakesha sounds pretty sweet under load!
Mike talk him into selling it yet, what a beast. Hope you had a great time at the show RK 👍
Thanks Bruce!! Yeah we had a blast, that was a great Show!!☺
It would not fit in the average Garage
When the lights go out you could power the whole town with that. Sounds scary
O.8 megawatt so I guess the engine is one meg. (Based on messing with stuff and designing cooler packs)
So that would make it about 1300 horsepower? Things a beast!
Will it fit in my honda?
Where theres a welder, theres a way man. Them crazy Russians over at Garage 54 put 4, 4 cylinder Lada engines inline in a car once. And a 7.something V8 in another Lada. And the stacked 3 4 cylinder Lada engines in another one. You should check them out sometime. They do some crazy stuff.
800,000 / 745 watts per HP = 1072 HP minimum.
Look under the Waukesha name, there is an M which I believe is for Marathon. The old Waukesha diesels used the Swedish Hessleman system which started on gas( petrol) then ran on diesel. In the past, Waukesha also worked with Wartsila on its gas fired engines. The company used to make' Big Wak' engines.They used to have a WAKDS (supercharged) model diesel that was used in some of the old Walter trucks.Also other models of Walter trucks used butane fueled Waukesha's. Waukesha in later years was owned by Dresser Industries and made the nat. gas fired ' Thunder Pumpkin' engine. I believe G.E. bought the company from Dresser.
If you are referring to the M under the W on the tag on the intake manifold (and maybe other places), the WM stood for Waukesha Motor Company (locals called it the "Motorworks"). My recollection is that Waukesha Engine was owned by Bangor Punta, then Dresser Industries, then Haliburton, then private equity firm, then G.E. and currently by Innio. I worked there 19 years during Dresser and Haliburton ownership. I'm not sure but I think engine assembly has been moved to Canada but Waukesha plant is still there and I suspect they still manufacture critical large components such as engine crankcases, crankshaft, heads etc. I don't see flatbed trucks with large engines being shipped like we used to.
For those power outages that happen....
Hast be minimum 1200 HP. MY GUESS IS MORE LIKE 1300…
Looks like L5100DZIU…1072 HP AT 1200 RPM.
Probably KATO gen end
Why is Mike allowed to start that? He's the SMALL ENGINE guy! 😁 Thanks for sharing this!
800KW. Thats just shy of 1MW. Thats insane.
Dude with the camera kinda sounds like Trump
A crying shame they gutted the control box.😢
So 800kW in HP would be 1600 HP. That is totally reasonable with that arrangement.
Chuck Norris's weed whacker engine..
hi there nice i saw it john
Well let's see 800 kilowatt should be enough to power a small house
Gigante
12 cilindros
That was cool! Next week, back to a Briggs 1 cylinder! 👍
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Wow, that's awesome! Mike is a kid in a candy store.
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Gorgeous. Thanks for the video 👍
looks like Airesearch t3030 turbos on it?
dude pls learn how use the camera
But the thing is....has it got enough grunt to charge my iPhone !?!
That tree is loving all that direct inject carbon in its leaves..
The COMSAT Jamesburg satellite earth station in Carmel Valley, CA had this same exact genset installed in 1963. It was replaced by AT&T by a CAT 3516 for no particular reason other than clueless engineers with too much budget money to spend. 800 KW = 1200 BHP
Glad you got it on Video :) awesome !!!! Thank you
they still build gen sets in Waukesha, Wisconsin
Excuse me while I power the entire town up....
its a tad bigger than my 8700 peak watt generator
Here, here is your "will it fit in my Civic" comment.
Kinda whines like and Emd if you listen close
Would love to hear it under load😎
"OVER SQUARE". LEARN SOMETHING EVERYDAY. THANKS! SUPER COOL SOUND AT 1200 RPM.