I was Sean's coach from age 14-19. He still holds the record for highest VO2 max. (age 17) @ the lab I used in the OC. Awesome to see him doing so well!
I'm always amazed how Safa pedals up the hill no hands and no strava just to film these guys struggle to keep up with him- while letting them have the strava glory. Such a gentleman.
Phil is the most anti-doping cyclist out there. He has a bar of soap tattooed on his arm cuz he feels so passionately about it. But I guess people have lied before lol, I just seriously doubt it
@@jani724 😂😂😂 To be honest, the heavy breathing really gives a great insight into the intensity of the effort. It gives context to the stats on the LHS of the screen.
I live in the Basque Country and most KOMs are unbeatable. All the best times are recorded from the Vuelta, Tour de France or Itzulia. It's cool in LA you have popular climb KOMs that aren't recorded from races.
Phils time wouldn't be broken in a race. Then there is 150km+ before the climb and tactics. Not that often in a race the pro peleton are going FULL gas bottom to top.
@@chrisrussell7419 It would easily be broken by good enough climbers if it’s the final climb or maybe penultimate and there are attacks. The best can literally do way over 7 w/kg for 10 minutes.
You must be new around here; Phil spent years in the world tour pro peloton and was well known as a strong climbing domestique. He claims he climbs as well now if not better then he did when he was a pro, and his power numbers (7.1 W/Kg for 10 minutes) confirm this. Let’s look at some climbs all the pros do in Europe; he’s 6th on the KOM list for the Rococorba in Girona (30 sec behind Simon Yates), 11th on the Madone in Nice (a few seconds behind Froomes best), 7th on the Masca climb (one behind Wout) in Tenerife, and these were on his honeymoon when he may not have had the best legs (I’ll let myself out now)
Those differences can be pretty wild. I was cookin on a ride yesterday and was ahead of my PR on a segment, but then when I got to the really hard part, I just dropped like a rock. Still got my second fastest time, but my PR was over 30 seconds faster. Insane.
@@BryenGraverI have some PRs from a massive tailwind that had me riding at group speed while solo. I’m not likely to touch those for a while. The ride back was awful lol
I have to tell you what I love the most about this video: I love the fact that Quinn is mic-ed up and we can hear the sound of him breathing. I haven't raced a bike since I was much, much younger, but I remember that sound as the sound of racing a bike up hill. The sound of breathing hard and working to control your breathing. I think people who have never raced think that cycling is about legs, but I remember it as being much more about breathing. Thanks for a great video.
That's level 2 climbers...geezus christ...that was like watching ...I don't have the right words ....much respect for Phil for showing lots of humility and the opening paces Phil...are you crazy....that was so insane ebikes cant even
He has much smoother everything with far less upper body movement. Now imagine the guy was on a rim brake, non-aero bike at least 2 pounds lighter, he wouldn't have to be wriggling so much.
@@ProWeAreSo no it isn't. Lol. You either have power in your legs or you don't. It's genetics. In first 2 years most results appear. The others train all they want and still can barely sustain 450W for 5 minutes, whereas teens aged 18 who have been riding since 14 and have genetics, hold 450 for 20 minutes no problem. So Your comment has been debunked sir!
"The level in LA is so nuts that you need to be a world tour caliber rider and be in good form to take a big name segment here" - come try out my home on island of Mallorca!! All KOM's and top 10's are who's who of cycling world!! infact, top 100!!! It's really really crazy!!
on December 19th 2019, I was cycling up Es Grau climb from north side, not a soul there... then all of a sudden at the top I could see a peloton coming at me (Ineos) and I could see a yellow flashing light on a car behind... The front 2 were Gerrant Thomas and Chris Froome (and they did say hi) and then a struggler at the rear with another car was egan bernal... So, I just passed and said hi to (at that time) the current TDF champ and the previous 2 champs, 1 being a LEGEND of this sport. It's amazing who you see here in winter.. and you never know who's gonna fly past you on a climb!
Yeah but they were brought to California by Aussies and planted in the 1850s as timber was in short supply. The most common tree type in Cali is the Tasmanian Blue gum.
got confused because it looks like you were talking about 2 different segments. the KOM at 0:59 / the time Phil mentions ("10 minutes") looks like it wasn't the same segment as the one shown at 0:31 and 12:12. but i assume Sean had the right one on the garmin because it beeped at the right time
I heard a stat that Lance Armstrong in his prime could do 500 watts for 30 minutes. These guys are beasts. Congrats on your fitness and w/kg. PS. thought it interesting that Phil chose presumably uber light box section aka non aero wheels for this effort which makes sense. Probably a 1300 gram wheelset Ability of the pro to hold close to 200 bpm HR is nuts. P.S. also the pro's capacity to recover after that incredible effort is noteworthy...most mortals would be on the ground.
Meanwhile in Germany on a much shorter climb on my mtb. Highest gear 4kph trice the time 😂. Seriously i find it insane how Well trained and fit you roadies are. I would say im really fit too but thats just a different Dimension
Fuck, that disc brake aero bike must suck so much to get up there. Wonder if Sean would have the same bike choice if sponsorship money wasn't a factor.
I was Sean's coach from age 14-19. He still holds the record for highest VO2 max. (age 17) @ the lab I used in the OC. Awesome to see him doing so well!
What was it if I may ask?
How does the poor air quality of LA affect vo2 max?
I'm always amazed how Safa pedals up the hill no hands and no strava just to film these guys struggle to keep up with him- while letting them have the strava glory. Such a gentleman.
I didn't even show my unicycle, didn't want to take the limelight off of the pros
@@SAFABrian class act 💯
Seems to have a lot of gas though. Needs to find another source of carbs besides beans before a tough ride.
@@temporalsoliton I think he was surfing the drone.
seems he is using an ebike or similiar
The power these guys have is just insane!
Juiced to the gills
Yeah just SIS and LMNT 💪🏼
I used to have this type of power until I took an arrow to the knee.
it's fairly regular
Phil is the most anti-doping cyclist out there. He has a bar of soap tattooed on his arm cuz he feels so passionately about it. But I guess people have lied before lol, I just seriously doubt it
Don't listen to this in your living room without your earbuds kids!
dead
Why is kids even on this version !
There’s a whole other app that’s made for just kids !
Gf walks in the apartment daily hearing heavy breathing coming from the the bedroom. Only to find me watching some chap try and not die up a climb
I agree, the shifting under load is obscene
@@jani724 😂😂😂
To be honest, the heavy breathing really gives a great insight into the intensity of the effort. It gives context to the stats on the LHS of the screen.
Staying that long over 195 heartrate !! I salute you dude
Love how Sean can kick up to 700watts near the top after averaging 400plus for 9mins - awesome.
please, more climbing stuff like this :)
ascent apostles
@@baza210 😂
I've been waiting to see Phil on one of your videos😀 This was excellent, thanks for sharing!!
Now THIS is good. More climbing, general riding. Descents are epic, but the struggle is also important :)
can you film another nichol's group ride please? they are such a good watch
I can relate to hitting 192bpm and only being halfway up the climb...
me too but i have to stop and take a breather for a while
😂
How can they stay at Max HR for so long? At least I beleive thats their Max HR 😁
@@razz5841exactly why they are pros they can do crazy shit
@@razz5841 at the end he actually hits 199.
I would imagine that in January he's close to the most unfit he will ever during the season be so this is a great effort!
I live in the Basque Country and most KOMs are unbeatable. All the best times are recorded from the Vuelta, Tour de France or Itzulia. It's cool in LA you have popular climb KOMs that aren't recorded from races.
Phils time wouldn't be broken in a race. Then there is 150km+ before the climb and tactics. Not that often in a race the pro peleton are going FULL gas bottom to top.
@@chrisrussell7419 It would easily be broken by good enough climbers if it’s the final climb or maybe penultimate and there are attacks. The best can literally do way over 7 w/kg for 10 minutes.
Same by me, the Tour of Britain passed through here in 2015, most of the KOM's still stand 8 years later.
@@davidbernhardt551 I don’t know how heavy Phil is but say it’s 65kg - 460W from his KOM is 7.1 W/kg, which is world class.
You must be new around here; Phil spent years in the world tour pro peloton and was well known as a strong climbing domestique. He claims he climbs as well now if not better then he did when he was a pro, and his power numbers (7.1 W/Kg for 10 minutes) confirm this. Let’s look at some climbs all the pros do in Europe; he’s 6th on the KOM list for the Rococorba in Girona (30 sec behind Simon Yates), 11th on the Madone in Nice (a few seconds behind Froomes best), 7th on the Masca climb (one behind Wout) in Tenerife, and these were on his honeymoon when he may not have had the best legs (I’ll let myself out now)
Awesome content. Phil's time is even more insane after seeing this!
If Sean was fresh I bet he would have had it that day. Super hard effort AFTER a full-on group ride
His bike looked pretty heavy too.
@@brownshit1 Yeah, Aero Disc not a climbing bike. Notice Phil still rocking the rim brakes!
@@darylbrice must be the disk rub
Unreal effort. I dont know how its humanly possible to do that many watts for so long...or to keep your HR that pegged like that!
1st to mention Phils Rim Brakes! Good man, Phil!
😱 What a machine!!! I was out of breath just by watching his performance.
Insane power, I almost passed out just looking at it lol😂. Great video 👌🏻🙌🏻
The Vo2 max required for that power output!
Insane
With the same doctor/juice even you can produce such power
@@twillyspanksyourcakes Haha! Not likely
It's insane to think Phil was half a minute faster when he got the KOM!
It's the cookies I'm telling ya
Those differences can be pretty wild. I was cookin on a ride yesterday and was ahead of my PR on a segment, but then when I got to the really hard part, I just dropped like a rock. Still got my second fastest time, but my PR was over 30 seconds faster. Insane.
Phil did it with a 12 pound cannondale and fresh legs . Sean doing it with a disc brake bike after destroying the Nicholas ride 😂
must've had the "bloods" spot on that day..... eh
@@BryenGraverI have some PRs from a massive tailwind that had me riding at group speed while solo. I’m not likely to touch those for a while. The ride back was awful lol
This is one of the most insane displays of aerobic fitness I have ever seen!
That was fun to watch. Insane level. I'd be dropped within the first 100 m. Just shows what it takes to win a pro bike race.
I have to tell you what I love the most about this video: I love the fact that Quinn is mic-ed up and we can hear the sound of him breathing. I haven't raced a bike since I was much, much younger, but I remember that sound as the sound of racing a bike up hill. The sound of breathing hard and working to control your breathing. I think people who have never raced think that cycling is about legs, but I remember it as being much more about breathing. Thanks for a great video.
Thanks for the comment. Trying to get goo audio is the hardest part of these videos 😂. Uphill speeds definitely help.
Insane climb with that Cannondale System Six...
Phil rolling up after sabotaging the KOM like "nothin, just hangin around"
Damn those numbers! Nice go at it,Sean!
Guy just became 2024 US National Road champ. Congrats Sean Quinn!
Everybody is a gangster till you try to keep up with these 2
Living the dream! When you drop Phil Gaimon on a KOM attempt you know you've got some legs and some lungs on you.
@8:25 you can see they still didn't finish that tennis coach' house that Michael destroyed!
That's level 2 climbers...geezus christ...that was like watching ...I don't have the right words ....much respect for Phil for showing lots of humility and the opening paces Phil...are you crazy....that was so insane ebikes cant even
it's amazing how strava brought any entirely new facet to professional cycling.
Very cool. Thank you! 👍
Phil has a much smoother pedalling stroke than the pro guy.
He has much smoother everything with far less upper body movement. Now imagine the guy was on a rim brake, non-aero bike at least 2 pounds lighter, he wouldn't have to be wriggling so much.
so what. it's about the power output not the pedaling stroke smoothness
@@methylmercury Thanks for enlightening us, captain obvious 🙄.
@@methylmercury it's about efficiency
@@ProWeAreSo no it isn't. Lol. You either have power in your legs or you don't. It's genetics. In first 2 years most results appear. The others train all they want and still can barely sustain 450W for 5 minutes, whereas teens aged 18 who have been riding since 14 and have genetics, hold 450 for 20 minutes no problem. So Your comment has been debunked sir!
"The level in LA is so nuts that you need to be a world tour caliber rider and be in good form to take a big name segment here" - come try out my home on island of Mallorca!! All KOM's and top 10's are who's who of cycling world!! infact, top 100!!! It's really really crazy!!
on December 19th 2019, I was cycling up Es Grau climb from north side, not a soul there... then all of a sudden at the top I could see a peloton coming at me (Ineos) and I could see a yellow flashing light on a car behind... The front 2 were Gerrant Thomas and Chris Froome (and they did say hi) and then a struggler at the rear with another car was egan bernal... So, I just passed and said hi to (at that time) the current TDF champ and the previous 2 champs, 1 being a LEGEND of this sport. It's amazing who you see here in winter.. and you never know who's gonna fly past you on a climb!
thanks again Safa 🙏
I was tired by the end just watching - awesome !
Dam I love watching elite athletes push emselves. Heart rate above 185 for that long. Their bodies are so efficient it’s incredible
Oh man. You could taste that effort 😮
that blood taste 😂
As an Australian, it’s so cool seeing our native trees in Los Angeles! I noticed it when I last visited in 2018.
Eucalyptus trees are on every continent, and often very numerous.
Yeah but they were brought to California by Aussies and planted in the 1850s as timber was in short supply. The most common tree type in Cali is the Tasmanian Blue gum.
They’re too flammable so we’re starting to clear the groves 😂😂
I could have kept up...for the first five seconds. 😃
Pure power! Let's have a look at him in 2024!
You guys are animals! 😵 that was savage to just even watch from the couch. Wow!!
got confused because it looks like you were talking about 2 different segments. the KOM at 0:59 / the time Phil mentions ("10 minutes") looks like it wasn't the same segment as the one shown at 0:31 and 12:12. but i assume Sean had the right one on the garmin because it beeped at the right time
I like how chilled they are able to speak after that LOL
It was a great effort. Too bad that he had that old guy blocking his path for the first one third of the climb !!!
I came for the KOM battle I stayed for the view!! Unreal!
I heard a stat that Lance Armstrong in his prime could do 500 watts for 30 minutes.
These guys are beasts. Congrats on your fitness and w/kg.
PS. thought it interesting that Phil chose presumably uber light box section aka non aero wheels for this effort which makes sense. Probably a 1300 gram wheelset
Ability of the pro to hold close to 200 bpm HR is nuts.
P.S. also the pro's capacity to recover after that incredible effort is noteworthy...most mortals would be on the ground.
But Lance had the juice, without it -10% is still impressive
@@MrBillboeing Please shut up. Its been over 15 years. Let. It. GO. Everybody else was doping too. Jeebus H. Christ.
@@MrBillboeing He also was one of the most talented riders of his generation
@@MrBillboeing hahaha...... and these guys don't????? do u believe in santa? and still get picked up from school by yer mommy?? haha... get real!!
495 watts for 40 (!) minutes. It was in one of the documentaries about him.
Good to know that the Nichols ride is hard for these guys. It crushes me....
Great effort man!
I don't think my heart can reach 197 BPM. Massive effort!
Was a great KOM attempt and such a big effort for this climb. Definitely the most wonderful view in the end!
You guys are beasts! That was insane climbing
Would love to see Sean Quinn tackle this KOM now after completing the Tour.
Imaging Sean not crushing a massive group ride before :D
Gallant effort!
Cool video! Ho do you record and blend in all these data?
Some classic Phil Gaimon reverse negative splitting haha. Somehow it works for him though lol
Amzing just AMAZING that Power !!!!
Absolutely insane numbers 💪💪💪
Wait, they start pedaling and their heart rate is immediately at 160? Was there a warm up cut out?
Meanwhile in Germany on a much shorter climb on my mtb. Highest gear 4kph trice the time 😂.
Seriously i find it insane how Well trained and fit you roadies are. I would say im really fit too but thats just a different Dimension
Phil's bike looks insane
Aero
Do people know what wheels does Phil use? Thanks. Looking for wheels for my rim brake bike.
Fuck, that disc brake aero bike must suck so much to get up there. Wonder if Sean would have the same bike choice if sponsorship money wasn't a factor.
This should become an LA tradition for all visiting pros.
Awesome ride Sean, definitely some Pro level b.p.m with that attempt@!. Was Gaimon's pace at the start the culprit?
What a view from that canyon!
great vid bryan .
what app does he use for this fancy telemetry? 🤔
watching this enormous effort, it seemed to me that I felt pain in my legs...
seeing my old house turned into a soulless rectangle Apple store clone is peak 2020s LA.
What happened to the other two guys? I never saw them.
Oh lord! This guys are strongggg
is he alexander from EF Education?
What are the two cross streets of the beginning beginnin of the climb?
Rips it on a systemsix too, that’s flashy!
190+ heart rate for that long makes me physically sweat just thinking about it😮
cool video, thanks!
¡Capos!
How insane is that climbing.
excellent, what gear ratio and combination used ?
he was in the big ring the whole way up and being a pro I'd imagine it was either 52 or 54tooth, not those wimpy 48t that come on consumer bikes
Shheeeeeshhh absolute, brutal
Brutal 🙌🏻
😳.. Phil G. goes up this incline as fast as my avg on flats!! 😂😂😂
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Amazing !!
The heart rate and power is just mind boggling
Hey Phil. You might like to try the Fred whitton race in lake District UK one year. I would say that it is perfect for you
I got tired on my couch 1 minute into the video my heart was already racing 😅
Sean's a beast 🔥🔥 so powerful
Amazing! Awesome!! ❤👍🏾✌🏾
6:31 always check yourself out in the mirrors haha
At that grade and speed he definitely would've benefited from a lighter rig instead of a disc aero bike.
Great video! you should get an electric motorbike to avoid the background engine noise.
Curious what time Vingo could pull off on this climb.
Some serious throw-down power is displayed!
Le gainage des pros. Impressionnant. Ça bouge pas . Et ça a des puissance de chevaux
And this is just "average" pro rider.. Would love to see Pogacar for example on this climb.. 🙂
You wouldnt see much of him
Rowan Barrett’s turn to take the kom 😂