I'm pretty sure my never-married great aunt, who lived with her "best friend" for over 50 years, was not single. And, most of the rest of my family is pretty sure of that too.
I've had a fair few couples of elderly "sisters" and "brothers" as neighbours growing up. They all came from small villages far away and never looked anything alike, except for that way all old people over 70 look alike. Must be siblings. Can't possibly have been anything else. Nope.
Even those who joined a Boston marriage out of convenience and had no sexual and/or no romantic relationship were not automatically straight, it was probably a great alternative for asexuals.
Family story time. My great grandmother, a Victorian era born welsh woman, emigrated from Wales to the United States. My great grandmother had six children, of her four daughters she thought one of them was lesbian. So far as I know my Great Grandmother never really said anything about it but instead my Great Grandmother started to make preparations for my Great Aunt by setting aside money so that my Great Aunt wouldn't have to get married for money and could live comfortably. My Great Grandmother was apparently completely convinced of my Great Aunt being lesbian right up to the point in which my Great Aunt got married to her husband, maybe Great Aunt was actually Bi, much to the surprise of my Great Grandmother. Interestingly enough a few years back we celebrated the marriage of the Great Aunt's only daughter to her wife when it became legal in the United States. My Cousin's new wife was completely overwhelmed by how welcoming the family was to her because sadly her own family had not be. One of the other things that gets lost in history are the stories of families that are accepting despite existing in a society that may not be.
I honestly don't know and those that would know have sadly passed. My guess would be that it either went towards the wedding or got put back into the normal inheritance pool.
swedish historians: and they were *sisters* from a far away village that never found anyone to marry and thus live together for convenience and company. in the other end of the country. like you do.
@@monalletinie143 It's mocking historians bc up until recently, they were in the habit of denying extremely obvious homosexual relationships/actions with either "romantic friendship" or "roommates". Ie two Victorian ladies exchanging steamy letters were just "really good friends!"
My best friend and I have considered joining our households. We're both in the middle of ending very toxic marriages, but are finding that single parenting is HARD! In talking about how nice it would be to have someone just always around again, someone to cuddle up with on the couch, play with each other's hair, etc, we both wondered how many women end up exploring the idea of being with other women after a toxic/abusive relationship. We're both straight, but this Boston marriage thing really does sound quite appealing.
My dance teacher did this! They lived in the same house as their friend with all their kids together. It seemed to work well for them and be super healthy for them and their kiddos
I think it would be brilliant and so rewarding for the children to have more love and structure. Just make sure you lay out the guidelines first between your BFF and yourself, since you made certain to state that you are both heterosexual. Should a romantic interest be introduced to the mix, it might ruffle some feathers if it detracts from the 'family time and routine' you two establish! Best of luck and I give you two thumbs up for the idea.
Go for it! Better to be in the company of your best friend than being in a toxic romantic relationship ☺️ I'm sure your kids would love having their friends in the same household, too
Love this video! As an asexual wlw I totally vibe with the romantic friendship without sex. Me and my bff say we're married and are totally in love with each other just without the sexual attraction. It's nice to see that represented in history along with the lesbians tbh
@ubu 9 your wrong. Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are two separate things however they are most often coupled together. Just because romantic and sexual attraction are linked together for your DOES NOT mean they are for everyone else and saying that it is the same dismisses asexual and aromatic people entirely. And even excluding that their are people who for medical reasons may not be able to have sex and they can still fall in love
@@830927mjki I don't think so because as far as I know, Plato already referred to the Sacred Band, which means it existed before Aristotle had any importance. But I have to admit that my knowledge of Greek homosexuality is mostly about Athens and I know little about the Thebans, except that they were said to be so strong because they were fighting for/alongside their lovers. Plato was also very much pro 'platonic' friendships between men (and against anything sexual).
@@birthe9439 Um, wasn't Thebes smack dab in the middle of Africa, not Greece? Like, hundreds, if not more than a thousand, of miles from even the northern coast of Africa?
@@kobaltkween There is a Thebes in Egypt and one in Greece. The Sacred Band was in Greece. No idea about queer history in Egyptian Thebes, but according to Wikipedia, it was also called Waset, but the name Thebes (which is already mentioned in Homer) came into wider use in the time of Alexander the Great.
I'm pretty sure that MANY heterosexual couples that history (the one we're taught in school) talks about were not attracted or affectionate to each other, and the fact that they had offsprings only proves that either the lady was taking her fun elsewhere (risky but must have happened often enough) or that the mismatched pair closed their eyes, thought of England and got on with it. Proof of their sense of duty. No proof of love, and no proof of a 1 on the Kinsey scale either. So I'd say we're entitled to our assumptions about Boston marriages and other similar relationships with the same degree of doubt/belief.
Lol in most African societies, so long as one of you wasn't disabled (we have an ableism problem, it's a thing), it didn't matter what your feelings were. The point of marriage was to pass on property (through children) and nothing else. "Romance" or "romantic attraction" was not a requirement at all.
For sure, romance had little to nothing to do with cementing political affiliations & 'assisting' one's parents with maintaining their hold on power in their Duchies & countries. As the rampant inbreeding amongst European Royalty, & the consequent problem with haemophilia, clearly shows
@@exemplaryhuman3963 Yeah. I can't really say for sure, but it makes sense why earlier African societies werd ableist. I mean, they survived by hunting, farming, gathering and combat. If you couldn't hear, walk, talk, communicate, ect. you werd pretty useless to the community. Its sad, but makes sense.
Yeah, according to my textbook, it was in the 19th century when (American) marriages became more fueled by love than by just being paired up with someone by your parents (the parents still almost always retained the power of veto however)
@Luiga Charmanderian XDDD I'm sorry you feel this way, but we have the right to be proud of our history. If your going to be nice, your welcome to stay. Otherwise, you have no business bringing your negativity to a video you clearly weren't interested in.
@Luiga Charmanderian srsly if you don't like gays and our culture GO away nobody forced you to wach this wonderful video did they, if you want to keep you head in the sand go for it this is our history, we come here for it cuz it ant in schools. We get to be proud of it. And we should be.
For my internship for grad school, I'm working on a list of history project topics for students here in Massachusetts and I'm thinking of adding Boston Marriages to the list!
Anne Lister went and visited the ladies of Llangollen. And apparently even tho historians insists it was a platonic relationship Anne Lister was convinced their relationship was romantic and sexual. Historians often say there's no evidence they had a sexual relationship. First off, not everyone back then kept obsessive diaries writing every experience including sexual encounters (like Anne lister) and second, even if they're weren't having sex with each other, they could still have been a non platonic, romantic couple. Asexuality is a thing
The way that still social acepted sleep together and show more affection as women help me to date in the closet...just saying Your face glows when you talk about lesbian marriage. Love it
The day gay marriage passed i was so happy for my physiotherapist (who I had from age 11 to 16) so she could marry her now wife. Plus means if I ever want to marry I won't have to worry about if I can or not. Only about benefits in ableist system.
Whats better than this? Girls being gal pals. I love how almost every video you make leaves me wanting to run away with my own partner to live with them in a witchy cottage on a heavily forested acreage
They probably weren’t all lesbians. A few we’re probably bisexual, asexual, aromantic, etc. honestly Boston marriages sounds like a safe space for any lgbtq+ women of the time
My grandfather's great-aunt lived with a woman who had been a nurse alongside her during world war 1, and while that may have been something to do with the social destruction caused by the war, if they were a lesbian couple (my mum doesn't think they were and I can't ask my grandfather anymore as he has dementia) then I hope they were happy. EDIT - Also forgot to add - I'm sure they were happy as they lived together for years and she even tried to adopt my grandfather when his home life wasn't very secure. She and her friend didn't long outlive one another which is sad but at least they didn't stay without each other for very long.
I've been on this platform for almost a whole decade, I'm actually pretty mad at myself for not finding this channel sooner. Thank you for this Top shelf quality content!
okay but my dream in life is to be a professor of literature at a women's college and be married to a wife who is ideally also a professor, why did these women over 100 years ago get to live my dream life
My friend and I used to joke that we'd move to Europe and be roommates forever. After he came out as trans, we developed the nickname "Boston Husband" and "Boston wife" and that's how we tag things on Tumblr 24/7.
It's very good. Bryant + Drake were tradeswomen and pillars of the community, but didn't have the kind of wealth and privilege that more famous and cosmopolitan couples did. For those interested, it's a very readable book even if you don't have an academic background.
Wellesley College is my alma mater 💙 ETA: When my grandmother attended Wellesley during the 1950s, the college was actively against lesbian relationships. If you were suspected of being in a relationship with your roommate, they would separate you into different dorms. When I graduated in 2015, relationships in all forms were accepted by the vast majority of people on campus. Women would openly kiss and hold hands in public, and pretty much no one would bat an eye.
My girlfriend and I are also called 'the girls' by my family-for 10 years now.It's really hurtful and we feel our relationship is not truly acknowledged in the way we want. I don't know how to fix it and I guess it's one of those things you can't fix. And then my family can't understand why we don't visit often.
@@s.h.4241 It could be endearing in different context. However, in this case it is very clear that their family is saying, “the girls” because they don’t want to acknowledge a romantic relationship between a non-hetero couple.
@@s.h.4241 even if it's meant as an endearment, it can still be hurtful to them. If you pet a person shorter than you on the head, you might think it's just a show of affection but that person will most likely feel affronted in some way, even if they might have a hard time putting words to exactly why. Calling grown women girls is the same thing, just the verbal version. It's belittling and condescending. Doubly so if it's due to some inner discomfort at fully acknowledging a serious romantic relationship between two women. It's like saying they are too young to know what love is, and calling their relationship juvenile and dismissing the value of them, their feelings and their right to be respected/treated as adults.
Perhaps if you got married and became wives you would have standing to request your preferred appellation. Ten years is a long time to be mere "girlfriends."
As a lesbian from the Boston area, you did a good job with the accent, it’s tricky! If you want to see a great portrayal of a Boston marriage, watch “Anne with an E” - Josephine Barry is such a great representation of Victorian era lesbians. 🥰
I went to a woman’s college from 2000-2004 and there was a lot of experimenting going on and no one was hiding anything. It was sort of expected? This was in the south too. I know now that I’m queer and I also developed the closest friendships with straight women I know I’ll ever have. It’s going on 21 years since I met them and we’ve been through a lot.
a thought on introductions - totally get that it is sometimes a way of minimizing a 'scary' homosexual relationship, but think there are also times when it stems from the trend of trying not to subsume the agency of an individual by referring to them only by their relationship. A continuance from eschewing: "this is Mr & Mrs George Smith" in favor of "may I introduce Betty (a whole and individual person) and George (a whole and individual person)" Adding "Smith" in that case, or "Kellgren-Fozard," to the end establishes the formality of the relationship, if necessary
@@C-SD That is a cultural thing and not common to all western cultures. Here the expression "Mrs. John Smith" is not used, that is actually considered weird. Even if one takes the same family name (not obligatory!), it is "Mrs. Mary Smith". If both are addressed at the same time, then it is just "Mr and Mrs Smith". Or for the last few decades actually with first names, without Mr and Mrs (which are considered extra formal and seldom used at all). That the wife should take his family name, was obligatory for less than 100 years in Finland. Before that some men, especially those who married to a family with land but no sons, took their wifes name.
Love that. I’m from France, and in my French literature class when I was 15, we read a book where the main characters’ relationship was identified as a "romantic friendship". Like that was a whole topic we did in class. Everyone was just like, yeah that’s just a very close platonic relationship and I was just like GAY the whole time. Internally of course.
Ooo I'm malaysian. In our malay lit class, i remember telling everyone i could (except the teacher lol) that the sultan in the story was gay because he kept calling his general "beloved". But yeah they were speaking in classical malay, which i don't know much about, so maybe it's just normal?
@@phadenswandemil4345 It's hard with all historical texts to determine whether it's period-typical language or there's a deeper meaning behind it. It might be because they loved each other as a couple, or because they loved each other as friends, or just a platitude. We'll never know for sure, but it's definitely possible.
@@huzai1563 I found an excerpt of the original text if you're curious. I did study it in malay, but bahasa klasik is not my strongest suit, so i probably did grossly misinterpret it. 😅 Maka titah raja, “Apa bicara kita supaya penjurit itu tiada beroleh masuk ke istana ini?” Maka sembah Laksamana, “Daulat tuanku, ada suatu perbuatan; hikmat itu daripada penjurit yang tahu patik peroleh.” Maka titah baginda, “Segeralah perbuat , kekasihku Laksamana, hikmat itu.”
Ugh, me too- arms and was supposed to have it on my legs as well. Couldn’t tolerate the legs, completely fell apart, so I remain undiagnosed and will probably stay that way... I have no clue how anyone gets through that. My deepest sympathies to you both.
Oof, didn't have to do anything rib wise - yikes! They did my arms and legs though. Were very concerned by the fact that I hardly felt it at all, and then said the results were in the normal range. What??
I have to say i love how much you love women loving each other. I feel that the only time we see you more giddy and happy than when you speak about romantic relationships between women is when you speak about claudia. I love that you love love so much.
I really needed that monologue on lesbians at the end today, I've been having a rough time. Thanks jessica, I love you and your content, you do so much good in the world💖
I was going to comment how "some of you want to have sex with all the women" made me snort aloud. But my wife told me that in northern Minnesota there was a similar concept of "Norwegian bachelor farmers" living together. Pretty cool!
sounds like the swedish thing with "sisters" and "brothers" that never found anyone and thus decided to live together "for company and convenience". preferably in a village far far away from their old one.
I’ve only ever used the term “the girls” when I’m referring to two sisters lol. They were like nieces to me in the years that I was in a relationship with their aunt. They’re 10 and 13 now.
@@nurek168 Hey keyjoin ! In short, sexual orientation does not equal romantic orientation. = Lesbian, gay, bisexual, asexual are sexual orientation, they define the attraction you have or not. Romantic orientation represents the feelings that you have emotionally towards people, or not. = Homoromanic, aromantic, biromantic, panromantic etc Horomantic does not mean lesbians, bec you can be homoromantic and have another sexual orientation (asexual/bisexual/straight/pansexual etc etc), this is the word that you should use when you have romantic feeligns for women. :)
@@SweetAsCookiePie yes, We can do it when they are obviously not. And no, you can't identfy as lesbian when you're not bec that's very disrectful towards lesbians. And approriating their label is clearly not okay. Homosexuality is not a choice, and sexuality in general is not a choice so you we don't choice our labels, you are lsbian or you arent, thats simple.
Oh no no no i must finish my work before i come indulge in this absolutely lovely well-researched and informative piece of content ... i'll be back to unpause in an hour ㅠ^ㅠ
Henry James' letter concerning his sister Alice's diary made touched me on several levels. First, Henry James kept/did not censor or destroy said diary. Second, most importantly, he stated his regret that his sister had not a long satisfying life without illnesses or fear.
About the "the girls" - my sister and I are both in our 20s and referred to as 'the girls' (and yes to some that might still be young enough to be considered girls) - and my brother and dad are referred to as 'the boys' when they are together. I don't think refering to anyone as 'the [enter gender here]' is ever intentionally meant to be dismissive of the senserity or maturity of someone's relationship, having said that, I do understand that it would be better to refer to you by your names, or *gasp* as a couple (as in, the couple next door), or whatever it is you desire to be referred to as
I’m almost jealous. I haven’t (formally) learn about ww2 at all yet. Of course, if comes up in literature classes, but I’ve never actually been taught about it in history... hmm.
@@erinyes3943 I finished school a decade ago so I am talking about up to age 18. And maybe your country's curriculum is different, I am from the UK. I'm sure it is important to learn about, definitely! But I am just annoyed it was so much, instead of other things which are also important.
Hi! Welsh speaker here, glad we started the lesbians 💪💪 /j The pronounciation wasn’t terrible but it would probably be ll-ann-goh-ch-an and the ll’s sound like hisses and the ch is a very back of the throat sound like inhaling but from your throat instead of from your mouth. That might be a little complicated but it’s the best I can explain it and I’ve been learning the language for 11 years and have only gone through Welsh education.
@@shesawtheedits Native Tennesseean (not proud of that) and if you’re not familiar we have a southern accent. I do not. My family is from Boston and Maine. Paired with a little Greek from my mom and a speech impediment, im asked all the time what my accent is. We don’t know! I just slur my words when excited and can’t say my L’s and R’s
In school, I had a class that was economical and societal sciences my friend and I did our paper on gender perception and how it has changed through the years or something like that. Our teacher thought it was a great idea... As we explained the details to him before our presentation (so by that point the paper was basically finished) he told us we couldn't do it like that because we were saying things that were completely wrong... We asked him what he thought was wrong, he said "you are saying that gay men can look like any normal men and that lesbians can be feminine too. That is wrong, lesbians are always masculine and gay men are always feminine, unlike we normal men." We were truly shocked as he said that. Especially when the almost 60-year-old school librarian said to our 28-year-old teacher "you know that people come in all shapes, sizes, and styles regardless of their sexual orientation right?" he forced us to change our paper or we would have a bad grade... that was such a horrible experience...
Thank you, I started watching when I too was diagnosed and you were test driving wheelchairs and now I love your story's and remain fascinated on your life's journey.
This is fascinating! On a side note, as having to have electrical currents run through my leg to test for something (there isn't another test) I can agree it is awful. Though unlike your case needed. Still it does suck.
Eye opening for this old fellow. Interesting to think that Victorian paternalism encouraged lesbianism, lifted my mood no end. I am enjoying your history videos.
Here's another good book on the topic for anyone interested-- Charity and Sylvia: A Same Sex Marriage in Early America by Rachel Hope Cleaves. She also did an episode on the Ben Franklin's World Podcast on the topic. Yay history!
That has got to be **THE** worst pronunciation of "Llangollen" I've ever heard. :D Well done. If you get the chance, do visit The Ladies' house in Llangollen. It's all kinds of wonderful, and the gardens are delightful.
Jessica gives such a smart, literate, witty and well written presentation !! Her delivery is perfect, too. She could write articles or make presentations all day with her talent. Truly. Influencer is accurate, and she's helped so many with issues of disability, LGBTQ+ , deafness, and fashion which is impressive. I'm sure she could write books if she wanted. Easy to see why she is hired or asked to talk at gatherings and make a difference. Thanks.
How did I JUST NOW discover you, Jessica, and your wonderful videos! This was my first one! You are a fantastic educator and spokeswoman. I look forward to watching all your videos! 😊👍
Clicked because I was so mesmerized by your absolutely gorgeous hair and on point makeup (that red lipstick is perfect, wish I know how to get that shade) and stayed because your voice is so soothing and velvety, and you presents the content in such an interesting way, weaving together stories, witty remarks and gentle educational explanations. As a straight introvert who was only interested in math and hated history in high school, 90% of what I know about disabled and lgbtq+ I learned from watching your videos. Thank you for making them.
Oh wow, you just brought back so many memories of those books! Why were there so many of those teen 'intense female friendship' books? I always felt sad after reading them.
I find myself wondering if you might have checked out "The Haunting of Bly Manor" based in part on Henry James' "The Turn of the Screw"as well as at least three other stories? I should tell you right now it has at its heart a relationship you might find right up your alley. And to paraphrase one character in the last episode--this is not a ghost story, but a love story.
6:50 I had that very unpleasant test done last year after switching to a new neurologist. He discovered that I had carpal tunnel syndrome in both wrists and cubital tunnel syndrome in both elbows. This is what was causing my neck pain and contributing to my migraines. Previous neuros never did this test and assumed all my neck pain and finger numbness was due to my cervical spinal stenosis. I get steroid injections in the four spots every few months now which does magic on my neck. Still have chronic migraines though. Working on getting insurance to cover Botox injections. 🤞
I found out that I had a great great aunt that had an accepted Boston Marriage. When her “dearest friend” passed in New York, she lived for 9 more years with her brother, one of my many great great uncles on this branch, and was the nannie to his kids. She passed and her ashes were sent back to the east coast to be kept with her partners. 💚
Well, I had sleepovers with my homosexual best friend almost every week. And even tho I am completely straight and nothing ever happened I highly suspect my parents thought I was gay for a couple years until getting a boyfriend 😂
"Lord alive gen Z I hope someone is giving you better books" one of my nephews brought home a waiver for him to hear "gay people exist, don't hit them" in sex ed. The books I have found are either all about the characters being gay and there's no real story, or portray anyone out of the ordinary as gay (or the slurs, though I learned the word "queer" and a regular symonym for "weird" and now say it occasionally when I forget...)
Living in the US, I would like to “bleach” my brain regularly...especially right now, ugh. Anyway, as usual, this is a wonderful video! Been following along for a few years and, as I’ve said before, I could listen to you talk all day, everyday 😊 (wish I could join “the club”...maybe some day).
Excellent video, highly insightful and well-crafted and funny. Also, my little ace heart just sang when you said "You can be a lesbian who never wants to have sex with another woman".
On one hand, I'm glad society accepts close female friendship and doesn't assume sex as this was a lot of my relationships in HS and early college, but on the other it made me heavily deny my queerness. I really appreciate you mentioning that sexuality is how you define it, not others. Even though it seems like that concept should be straightforward, it's nice to hear it every now and then 🤗
fun fact- Anne Lister (gentleman jack) actually visited the ladies of llangollen in their home Plas Newydd and basically knew they were gay, this is before she married Ann Walker and she corresponded with her lover Mariana about them, saying how she would like to live with her in the way the Ladies of Llangollen did!!
Your videos are always unbelievably brilliant. How they're edited, your outfits, your personality, humour and intelligence and the content you post are exceptional!
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"I'm obviously talking about rich women here...history doesn't care about poor ones" dropping truth bombs
“History’s an arsehole-“
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W!z,
@@josiefrancis8197 wha?
She said that in e vid by the way in case anyone didn’t notice-
So very true
@@zevamari2893 Why would you do that
Alternate title: “Gal Pals: Or, why your single great aunt wasn’t as single as you think.”
I strongly suspect if my great aunt were born 50 years later, she'd be neither single nor a nun
The funny part is that both my aunt and my best friends aunt both life with their female partners now.
I'm pretty sure my never-married great aunt, who lived with her "best friend" for over 50 years, was not single. And, most of the rest of my family is pretty sure of that too.
I've had a fair few couples of elderly "sisters" and "brothers" as neighbours growing up. They all came from small villages far away and never looked anything alike, except for that way all old people over 70 look alike. Must be siblings. Can't possibly have been anything else. Nope.
I can't wait to be that aunt :'D
"as someone who's never been anywhere near a man, your heretosexuality terrifies me" CACKLING lol
Being a heterosexual, it still terrifies me 😂
@@snehapradhan5591 I’m married to a man and heterosexuality scares me! 😱😱
@@brookesayewich9582 How does that happen!? 😂
Same. Lmao
As a heterosexual woman.. I can see that. 😂
Even those who joined a Boston marriage out of convenience and had no sexual and/or no romantic relationship were not automatically straight, it was probably a great alternative for asexuals.
yes!
Yes! I was thinking the same thing! I’m aromantic, so I was thinking they could easily be queerplatonic relationships for aces and aros 😊😊
Can confirm, I would definitely have done that.
@@Lovagechannel Same.
As an aro ace, I would've definitely done that if I couldn't live on my own.
Family story time. My great grandmother, a Victorian era born welsh woman, emigrated from Wales to the United States. My great grandmother had six children, of her four daughters she thought one of them was lesbian. So far as I know my Great Grandmother never really said anything about it but instead my Great Grandmother started to make preparations for my Great Aunt by setting aside money so that my Great Aunt wouldn't have to get married for money and could live comfortably. My Great Grandmother was apparently completely convinced of my Great Aunt being lesbian right up to the point in which my Great Aunt got married to her husband, maybe Great Aunt was actually Bi, much to the surprise of my Great Grandmother. Interestingly enough a few years back we celebrated the marriage of the Great Aunt's only daughter to her wife when it became legal in the United States. My Cousin's new wife was completely overwhelmed by how welcoming the family was to her because sadly her own family had not be. One of the other things that gets lost in history are the stories of families that are accepting despite existing in a society that may not be.
This is so heart-waeming but one has to ask...what happened to all that money your great grandma daves up? 😂
@@shiteyanyo1111 Asking the real questions 🤣🤣
Probably went towards the wedding would be my guess?
I honestly don't know and those that would know have sadly passed. My guess would be that it either went towards the wedding or got put back into the normal inheritance pool.
I had to read it veeeery slowly and visualize your family tree to get my mind around the facts ahahahha
Historians: and they were *roommates*
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"Gal pals! Friends! Who were girls! Girl-friends! Nonotlikethat! Buddies! Like Sappho and her best fr- oh. Ohno." 😆
swedish historians: and they were *sisters* from a far away village that never found anyone to marry and thus live together for convenience and company. in the other end of the country. like you do.
I never understood where this joke comes from
@@monalletinie143 It's mocking historians bc up until recently, they were in the habit of denying extremely obvious homosexual relationships/actions with either "romantic friendship" or "roommates". Ie two Victorian ladies exchanging steamy letters were just "really good friends!"
Let's be honest: being seen as sexless by society at large is a common experience for Disabled people, regardless of our gender/sexuality.
The truth, I am reading a book for disabled sexuality and the entire first half is about unlearning this myth.
@@kagitsune What's the book?
@@cantbejawsome It's called "The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability", by Kaufman, Silverberg, and Odette.
My best friend and I have considered joining our households. We're both in the middle of ending very toxic marriages, but are finding that single parenting is HARD! In talking about how nice it would be to have someone just always around again, someone to cuddle up with on the couch, play with each other's hair, etc, we both wondered how many women end up exploring the idea of being with other women after a toxic/abusive relationship.
We're both straight, but this Boston marriage thing really does sound quite appealing.
Hi 😊
My dance teacher did this! They lived in the same house as their friend with all their kids together. It seemed to work well for them and be super healthy for them and their kiddos
I think it would be brilliant and so rewarding for the children to have more love and structure. Just make sure you lay out the guidelines first between your BFF and yourself, since you made certain to state that you are both heterosexual. Should a romantic interest be introduced to the mix, it might ruffle some feathers if it detracts from the 'family time and routine' you two establish! Best of luck and I give you two thumbs up for the idea.
Go for it! Better to be in the company of your best friend than being in a toxic romantic relationship ☺️ I'm sure your kids would love having their friends in the same household, too
Marriage doesn't get much more traditional than one of convenience (unless you count political or business alliances.)
Love this video! As an asexual wlw I totally vibe with the romantic friendship without sex. Me and my bff say we're married and are totally in love with each other just without the sexual attraction. It's nice to see that represented in history along with the lesbians tbh
Hi 😊
That’s just a friendship, nothing lesbian about it
Yes, because you must have sex to be in love... LOL. I get so tired of these comments.
@ubu 9 your wrong. Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are two separate things however they are most often coupled together. Just because romantic and sexual attraction are linked together for your DOES NOT mean they are for everyone else and saying that it is the same dismisses asexual and aromatic people entirely. And even excluding that their are people who for medical reasons may not be able to have sex and they can still fall in love
@@amybyrne5208 friendship is also about love.
Fun gay marriage fact, there was a unit of soldiers in ancient Thebes called the sacred band consisting of 150 couples of married men
@GozerTheTraveller that’s actually so beautiful??
didn't Aristotle have something to do with setting that up?
@@830927mjki I don't think so because as far as I know, Plato already referred to the Sacred Band, which means it existed before Aristotle had any importance. But I have to admit that my knowledge of Greek homosexuality is mostly about Athens and I know little about the Thebans, except that they were said to be so strong because they were fighting for/alongside their lovers. Plato was also very much pro 'platonic' friendships between men (and against anything sexual).
@@birthe9439 Um, wasn't Thebes smack dab in the middle of Africa, not Greece? Like, hundreds, if not more than a thousand, of miles from even the northern coast of Africa?
@@kobaltkween There is a Thebes in Egypt and one in Greece. The Sacred Band was in Greece. No idea about queer history in Egyptian Thebes, but according to Wikipedia, it was also called Waset, but the name Thebes (which is already mentioned in Homer) came into wider use in the time of Alexander the Great.
I'm pretty sure that MANY heterosexual couples that history (the one we're taught in school) talks about were not attracted or affectionate to each other, and the fact that they had offsprings only proves that either the lady was taking her fun elsewhere (risky but must have happened often enough) or that the mismatched pair closed their eyes, thought of England and got on with it. Proof of their sense of duty. No proof of love, and no proof of a 1 on the Kinsey scale either. So I'd say we're entitled to our assumptions about Boston marriages and other similar relationships with the same degree of doubt/belief.
Lol in most African societies, so long as one of you wasn't disabled (we have an ableism problem, it's a thing), it didn't matter what your feelings were. The point of marriage was to pass on property (through children) and nothing else. "Romance" or "romantic attraction" was not a requirement at all.
@@kikoenjani7335 Aside from the ableism, that honestly sounds wonderful.
For sure, romance had little to nothing to do with cementing political affiliations & 'assisting' one's parents with maintaining their hold on power in their Duchies & countries. As the rampant inbreeding amongst European Royalty, & the consequent problem with haemophilia, clearly shows
@@exemplaryhuman3963 Yeah. I can't really say for sure, but it makes sense why earlier African societies werd ableist. I mean, they survived by hunting, farming, gathering and combat. If you couldn't hear, walk, talk, communicate, ect. you werd pretty useless to the community. Its sad, but makes sense.
Yeah, according to my textbook, it was in the 19th century when (American) marriages became more fueled by love than by just being paired up with someone by your parents (the parents still almost always retained the power of veto however)
YESSSSS GAY HISTORY!!! We love to see it!!!!!
@Luiga Charmanderian Uhhhhh is that supposed to be a joke????
@Luiga Charmanderian XDDD I'm sorry you feel this way, but we have the right to be proud of our history. If your going to be nice, your welcome to stay. Otherwise, you have no business bringing your negativity to a video you clearly weren't interested in.
@@ghostmoondragon5101 you tell em
@Luiga Charmanderian srsly if you don't like gays and our culture GO away nobody forced you to wach this wonderful video did they, if you want to keep you head in the sand go for it this is our history, we come here for it cuz it ant in schools. We get to be proud of it. And we should be.
@@alexandertimms0.166 :D
For my internship for grad school, I'm working on a list of history project topics for students here in Massachusetts and I'm thinking of adding Boston Marriages to the list!
You should!
Omg do it PLEASE
"You can be a lesbian and want to have with ALL the women!"
*Side eye at Gentleman Jack intensifies*
Anne Lister went and visited the ladies of Llangollen. And apparently even tho historians insists it was a platonic relationship Anne Lister was convinced their relationship was romantic and sexual. Historians often say there's no evidence they had a sexual relationship. First off, not everyone back then kept obsessive diaries writing every experience including sexual encounters (like Anne lister) and second, even if they're weren't having sex with each other, they could still have been a non platonic, romantic couple. Asexuality is a thing
I'm pretty sure Lillian Faderman looked into this in her book about the Ladies and it was fairly clear they were a "couple".
The way that still social acepted sleep together and show more affection as women help me to date in the closet...just saying
Your face glows when you talk about lesbian marriage. Love it
ikr! its so easy to just have a sleep over with your girlfriend in a way strait couples cant do :)
The day gay marriage passed i was so happy for my physiotherapist (who I had from age 11 to 16) so she could marry her now wife. Plus means if I ever want to marry I won't have to worry about if I can or not. Only about benefits in ableist system.
Whats better than this? Girls being gal pals.
I love how almost every video you make leaves me wanting to run away with my own partner to live with them in a witchy cottage on a heavily forested acreage
They probably weren’t all lesbians. A few we’re probably bisexual, asexual, aromantic, etc. honestly Boston marriages sounds like a safe space for any lgbtq+ women of the time
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Really?! Wake up
@@shellcharles3633 ...?
You're thinking of Nuns in a covent.
My grandfather's great-aunt lived with a woman who had been a nurse alongside her during world war 1, and while that may have been something to do with the social destruction caused by the war, if they were a lesbian couple (my mum doesn't think they were and I can't ask my grandfather anymore as he has dementia) then I hope they were happy. EDIT - Also forgot to add - I'm sure they were happy as they lived together for years and she even tried to adopt my grandfather when his home life wasn't very secure. She and her friend didn't long outlive one another which is sad but at least they didn't stay without each other for very long.
I've been on this platform for almost a whole decade, I'm actually pretty mad at myself for not finding this channel sooner. Thank you for this Top shelf quality content!
okay but my dream in life is to be a professor of literature at a women's college and be married to a wife who is ideally also a professor, why did these women over 100 years ago get to live my dream life
That sounds like such a vibe omg you can still do it I believe in you!!
@@maxblanchard5258 thank you!!! just gotta brave the academic job market!
They rich
I don’t know if I want to read a romance with that plot or live that plot,,,,
Probably a lot easier to achieve that goal today though
My friend and I used to joke that we'd move to Europe and be roommates forever. After he came out as trans, we developed the nickname "Boston Husband" and "Boston wife" and that's how we tag things on Tumblr 24/7.
That's amazing
I love the color of that dress 😍
@@bluenuttefly8813 you needn't take those cloths outside, unless you feel very comfortable upon getting dressed.
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There’s a great book called Charity and Sylvia. They were accepted as wives/domestic partners in Vermont starting in 1807. Great story!
I have the ebook and I'm excited to read it.
@@lavenderrosecosplay5639 I had to read it in one of my graduate courses.... It really was an amazing story.
It's very good. Bryant + Drake were tradeswomen and pillars of the community, but didn't have the kind of wealth and privilege that more famous and cosmopolitan couples did.
For those interested, it's a very readable book even if you don't have an academic background.
@@SquashlingChaotic Absolutely true. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in LGBTQ+ issues in world history, not just academics.
Wow, never see my name historically in any way. Best place to find it ever.
"lesbian partnership among academic women"
*nothing has changed* 😂😂👭
Wellesley College is my alma mater 💙
ETA: When my grandmother attended Wellesley during the 1950s, the college was actively against lesbian relationships. If you were suspected of being in a relationship with your roommate, they would separate you into different dorms.
When I graduated in 2015, relationships in all forms were accepted by the vast majority of people on campus. Women would openly kiss and hold hands in public, and pretty much no one would bat an eye.
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Or! Imagine: asexual women wanting the men to go away.
Sure is way less social culture clash that way. Men and women being raised so separately leads to a lot of cultural issues.
This x 100 👏 🙋♀️
That's called a nunnery.
Nuns.
@@007nadineL eh, there's much more to being a nun than wanting men to stop bothering them.
@@Irishsong22 yes... number one is to "hang out" with other females and pretend to be married to God
My girlfriend and I are also called 'the girls' by my family-for 10 years now.It's really hurtful and we feel our relationship is not truly acknowledged in the way we want. I don't know how to fix it and I guess it's one of those things you can't fix. And then my family can't understand why we don't visit often.
Are you sure this isn’t in an endearing way? The girls sounds endearing and loving not hateful.
@@s.h.4241 It could be endearing in different context. However, in this case it is very clear that their family is saying, “the girls” because they don’t want to acknowledge a romantic relationship between a non-hetero couple.
@@s.h.4241 even if it's meant as an endearment, it can still be hurtful to them. If you pet a person shorter than you on the head, you might think it's just a show of affection but that person will most likely feel affronted in some way, even if they might have a hard time putting words to exactly why. Calling grown women girls is the same thing, just the verbal version. It's belittling and condescending. Doubly so if it's due to some inner discomfort at fully acknowledging a serious romantic relationship between two women. It's like saying they are too young to know what love is, and calling their relationship juvenile and dismissing the value of them, their feelings and their right to be respected/treated as adults.
Perhaps if you got married and became wives you would have standing to request your preferred appellation. Ten years is a long time to be mere "girlfriends."
@@markmh835 I think being together for 10 years qualifies us as married, we just don't need the paperwork to prove it.
Last time I was this early I hadn’t heard the term “womance”
It's when two people who can't pronounce "R" fall in love.
@@ChrisPage68 it can bwing people twogethuh, and even end in mawwiage!
@@elainechambers3146 mawwiage, dat bwessed awangmet dat dweam wiffin a dweam!
As a lesbian from the Boston area, you did a good job with the accent, it’s tricky! If you want to see a great portrayal of a Boston marriage, watch “Anne with an E” - Josephine Barry is such a great representation of Victorian era lesbians. 🥰
Okay so did the idea of women experimenting in college come from this lol.
😂😂😂
I went to a woman’s college from 2000-2004 and there was a lot of experimenting going on and no one was hiding anything. It was sort of expected? This was in the south too. I know now that I’m queer and I also developed the closest friendships with straight women I know I’ll ever have. It’s going on 21 years since I met them and we’ve been through a lot.
This was wonderfully validating from an Ace perspective too.
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"History dosen't care about poor ones. History is an arsehole."
I love you Jessica.
a thought on introductions - totally get that it is sometimes a way of minimizing a 'scary' homosexual relationship, but think there are also times when it stems from the trend of trying not to subsume the agency of an individual by referring to them only by their relationship. A continuance from eschewing: "this is Mr & Mrs George Smith" in favor of "may I introduce Betty (a whole and individual person) and George (a whole and individual person)" Adding "Smith" in that case, or "Kellgren-Fozard," to the end establishes the formality of the relationship, if necessary
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Egads, øne of the worst parts of getting married is you no longer have a name. You're just Mrs. Whatever his name is.
@@C-SD That is a cultural thing and not common to all western cultures. Here the expression "Mrs. John Smith" is not used, that is actually considered weird. Even if one takes the same family name (not obligatory!), it is "Mrs. Mary Smith". If both are addressed at the same time, then it is just "Mr and Mrs Smith". Or for the last few decades actually with first names, without Mr and Mrs (which are considered extra formal and seldom used at all).
That the wife should take his family name, was obligatory for less than 100 years in Finland. Before that some men, especially those who married to a family with land but no sons, took their wifes name.
Love that. I’m from France, and in my French literature class when I was 15, we read a book where the main characters’ relationship was identified as a "romantic friendship". Like that was a whole topic we did in class. Everyone was just like, yeah that’s just a very close platonic relationship and I was just like GAY the whole time. Internally of course.
Ooo I'm malaysian. In our malay lit class, i remember telling everyone i could (except the teacher lol) that the sultan in the story was gay because he kept calling his general "beloved". But yeah they were speaking in classical malay, which i don't know much about, so maybe it's just normal?
@@phadenswandemil4345 i would totally have reacted like that too haha. Like i used to just catch keywords and go GAY
@@phadenswandemil4345 It's hard with all historical texts to determine whether it's period-typical language or there's a deeper meaning behind it. It might be because they loved each other as a couple, or because they loved each other as friends, or just a platitude. We'll never know for sure, but it's definitely possible.
@@huzai1563 I found an excerpt of the original text if you're curious. I did study it in malay, but bahasa klasik is not my strongest suit, so i probably did grossly misinterpret it. 😅
Maka titah raja, “Apa bicara kita supaya penjurit itu tiada beroleh masuk ke istana ini?” Maka sembah Laksamana, “Daulat tuanku, ada suatu perbuatan; hikmat itu daripada penjurit yang tahu patik peroleh.” Maka titah baginda, “Segeralah perbuat , kekasihku Laksamana, hikmat itu.”
I've had that electric test in my arms: excruciating torture. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Yeah me too. It is the weirdest feels. Made me feel sick when the stick the probe in, in-between my ribs :/
Ugh, me too- arms and was supposed to have it on my legs as well. Couldn’t tolerate the legs, completely fell apart, so I remain undiagnosed and will probably stay that way... I have no clue how anyone gets through that. My deepest sympathies to you both.
Fortunately I had mine in my eyebrow (SFEMG) and didn't need the arm or leg one. But it was painful enough and then triggered a migraine. Fun times.
Mine was in my legs and included a microphone needle and they had to do a repeat a year later because the results where "inconclusive".
Oof, didn't have to do anything rib wise - yikes! They did my arms and legs though. Were very concerned by the fact that I hardly felt it at all, and then said the results were in the normal range. What??
Also fun fact it was also very common amongst Pirates.
I have to say i love how much you love women loving each other. I feel that the only time we see you more giddy and happy than when you speak about romantic relationships between women is when you speak about claudia. I love that you love love so much.
I really needed that monologue on lesbians at the end today, I've been having a rough time. Thanks jessica, I love you and your content, you do so much good in the world💖
As a proud Halifaxian I loved the reference to Anne Lister.
I was going to comment how "some of you want to have sex with all the women" made me snort aloud. But my wife told me that in northern Minnesota there was a similar concept of "Norwegian bachelor farmers" living together. Pretty cool!
sounds like the swedish thing with "sisters" and "brothers" that never found anyone and thus decided to live together "for company and convenience". preferably in a village far far away from their old one.
Someone call BBC and get this woman a history show. 💞😂
Jessica: "were they lesbians?" text on screen:"where they lesbians?" just imagining that sentence said aloud cracks me up xD
“Where they lesbians?”
“In Boston they lesbians”
Where they all at?
I’ve only ever used the term “the girls” when I’m referring to two sisters lol. They were like nieces to me in the years that I was in a relationship with their aunt. They’re 10 and 13 now.
"You can be a lesbian who never wants to have sex with another woman" my ace gay heart is ❤❤❤❤❤
Youre homoromantic, not lesbian. Thats 2 différent things, stop using a term thats its not for yu.
No hate though ^^
@@melissaselina4007 buut what's the difference?
@@melissaselina4007 you can't tell someone how they identify... if Kaitlin identifies as a lesbian, then that's what she is
@@nurek168 Hey keyjoin !
In short, sexual orientation does not equal romantic orientation.
= Lesbian, gay, bisexual, asexual are sexual orientation, they define the attraction you have or not.
Romantic orientation represents the feelings that you have emotionally towards people,
or not.
= Homoromanic, aromantic, biromantic, panromantic etc
Horomantic does not mean lesbians, bec you can be homoromantic and have another sexual orientation (asexual/bisexual/straight/pansexual etc etc), this is the word that you should use when you have romantic feeligns for women. :)
@@SweetAsCookiePie yes, We can do it when they are obviously not. And no, you can't identfy as lesbian when you're not bec that's very disrectful towards lesbians.
And approriating their label is clearly not okay.
Homosexuality is not a choice, and sexuality in general is not a choice so you we don't choice our labels, you are lsbian or you arent, thats simple.
Oh no no no i must finish my work before i come indulge in this absolutely lovely well-researched and informative piece of content ... i'll be back to unpause in an hour ㅠ^ㅠ
It was copied from Wikipedia with sassy sentences sprinkled here and there...She delivered it beautifully though 👍🏻
I hope you know how delightful and calming you are
First comment! Early today. Gorgeous as always Jessica ❣️
Henry James' letter concerning his sister Alice's diary made touched me on several levels. First, Henry James kept/did not censor or destroy said diary. Second, most importantly, he stated his regret that his sister had not a long satisfying life without illnesses or fear.
About the "the girls" - my sister and I are both in our 20s and referred to as 'the girls' (and yes to some that might still be young enough to be considered girls) - and my brother and dad are referred to as 'the boys' when they are together.
I don't think refering to anyone as 'the [enter gender here]' is ever intentionally meant to be dismissive of the senserity or maturity of someone's relationship, having said that, I do understand that it would be better to refer to you by your names, or *gasp* as a couple (as in, the couple next door), or whatever it is you desire to be referred to as
This is what I needed to actually be interested in history classes at school. I swear I learnt about WW2 three times.
I’m almost jealous. I haven’t (formally) learn about ww2 at all yet. Of course, if comes up in literature classes, but I’ve never actually been taught about it in history... hmm.
@@erinyes3943 I finished school a decade ago so I am talking about up to age 18. And maybe your country's curriculum is different, I am from the UK. I'm sure it is important to learn about, definitely! But I am just annoyed it was so much, instead of other things which are also important.
Hi! Welsh speaker here, glad we started the lesbians 💪💪 /j
The pronounciation wasn’t terrible but it would probably be ll-ann-goh-ch-an and the ll’s sound like hisses and the ch is a very back of the throat sound like inhaling but from your throat instead of from your mouth.
That might be a little complicated but it’s the best I can explain it and I’ve been learning the language for 11 years and have only gone through Welsh education.
I have a speech impediment and tried to say it. It was very hard🥲
@@I_have_the_cats dw, i've been speaking it my whole life and can still hardly say my ll's and ch's
@@shesawtheedits Native Tennesseean (not proud of that) and if you’re not familiar we have a southern accent. I do not. My family is from Boston and Maine. Paired with a little Greek from my mom and a speech impediment, im asked all the time what my accent is.
We don’t know! I just slur my words when excited and can’t say my L’s and R’s
Jessica: *saying her outro*
me, a closeted 22 yo: *UGLY CRYING* you are my mom now
I really need to start watching your videos with a note book
I'm a panromantic demisexual and I find most heterosexual sex rather frightening, honestly. I adore your history series and your fashion.
What do you mean by frightening? Sounds horrible 🙁
Again biromantic demisexual here and kinda same lol XD... I can't ever picture it in real life
Same! I wonder if we have hit on a pattern here! But my fear of heterosexual sex stems from trauma, so... There's that
Same
I totally support being panromatic, but I initially read it as "panoramic" and took a moment trying to picture that
i saw gentleman jack in the thumbnail and clicked immediately
mad props for including ace ladies~
I would love to hear you talk about mediæval nunneries.
yes please :)
In school, I had a class that was economical and societal sciences my friend and I did our paper on gender perception and how it has changed through the years or something like that. Our teacher thought it was a great idea... As we explained the details to him before our presentation (so by that point the paper was basically finished) he told us we couldn't do it like that because we were saying things that were completely wrong... We asked him what he thought was wrong, he said "you are saying that gay men can look like any normal men and that lesbians can be feminine too. That is wrong, lesbians are always masculine and gay men are always feminine, unlike we normal men."
We were truly shocked as he said that. Especially when the almost 60-year-old school librarian said to our 28-year-old teacher "you know that people come in all shapes, sizes, and styles regardless of their sexual orientation right?" he forced us to change our paper or we would have a bad grade... that was such a horrible experience...
Wow, what a moron
Hello
I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.
Another history lesson to die for !! Great job jessica
Thank you, I started watching when I too was diagnosed and you were test driving wheelchairs and now I love your story's and remain fascinated on your life's journey.
Jessica giving me permission to just be myself is exactly what I needed tonight 💛
This is fascinating!
On a side note, as having to have electrical currents run through my leg to test for something (there isn't another test) I can agree it is awful. Though unlike your case needed. Still it does suck.
Hi 😊
@@elvissand4762 hi 😁
Eye opening for this old fellow. Interesting to think that Victorian paternalism encouraged lesbianism, lifted my mood no end. I am enjoying your history videos.
Here's another good book on the topic for anyone interested-- Charity and Sylvia: A Same Sex Marriage in Early America by Rachel Hope Cleaves. She also did an episode on the Ben Franklin's World Podcast on the topic. Yay history!
we listened to the podcast for my class on women in american history, it was awesome!
I am LIVING for this monochromatic look.
As a bi ace academic, I cannot even explain how mUCH I'm vibing with this Boston marriage idea
That has got to be **THE** worst pronunciation of "Llangollen" I've ever heard. :D Well done.
If you get the chance, do visit The Ladies' house in Llangollen. It's all kinds of wonderful, and the gardens are delightful.
It was definitely interesting lmao
She somehow managed to put the “Ll” sound where the G would be haha
Jessica gives such a smart, literate, witty and well written presentation !! Her delivery is perfect, too. She could write articles or make presentations all day with her talent. Truly. Influencer is accurate, and she's helped so many with issues of disability, LGBTQ+ , deafness, and fashion which is impressive. I'm sure she could write books if she wanted. Easy to see why she is hired or asked to talk at gatherings and make a difference. Thanks.
How did I JUST NOW discover you, Jessica, and your wonderful videos! This was my first one! You are a fantastic educator and spokeswoman. I look forward to watching all your videos! 😊👍
your manner of speech made me smile priceless and beautiful x
Clicked because I was so mesmerized by your absolutely gorgeous hair and on point makeup (that red lipstick is perfect, wish I know how to get that shade) and stayed because your voice is so soothing and velvety, and you presents the content in such an interesting way, weaving together stories, witty remarks and gentle educational explanations. As a straight introvert who was only interested in math and hated history in high school, 90% of what I know about disabled and lgbtq+ I learned from watching your videos. Thank you for making them.
“They’re kissing each other, holding hands, writing love poetry to one another.” Just gals being pals.
Oh wow, you just brought back so many memories of those books! Why were there so many of those teen 'intense female friendship' books? I always felt sad after reading them.
Hello😊
I find myself wondering if you might have checked out "The Haunting of Bly Manor" based in part on Henry James' "The Turn of the Screw"as well as at least three other stories? I should tell you right now it has at its heart a relationship you might find right up your alley. And to paraphrase one character in the last episode--this is not a ghost story, but a love story.
6:50 I had that very unpleasant test done last year after switching to a new neurologist. He discovered that I had carpal tunnel syndrome in both wrists and cubital tunnel syndrome in both elbows. This is what was causing my neck pain and contributing to my migraines. Previous neuros never did this test and assumed all my neck pain and finger numbness was due to my cervical spinal stenosis. I get steroid injections in the four spots every few months now which does magic on my neck. Still have chronic migraines though. Working on getting insurance to cover Botox injections. 🤞
Good luck 👍
@@nmc1859 That was 3 years ago. I did get the Botox, but it didn't seem to help. Now I'm taking Nurtec which has been very helpful.
Another fantastic episode in what I hope will be a long-running saga. Love love love! 😊💕
thanks for helping me avoid boredom while dealing with a health flare
I found out that I had a great great aunt that had an accepted Boston Marriage. When her “dearest friend” passed in New York, she lived for 9 more years with her brother, one of my many great great uncles on this branch, and was the nannie to his kids. She passed and her ashes were sent back to the east coast to be kept with her partners. 💚
Sapphic history is my favorite history. 💖
Ah yes "womance", same reason I enjoyed having my girlfriend for a "sleepover" when I was a teen. Totally platonic relationship, nothing to see here.
Just a couple of gals being pals! Practicing kissing for their future boyfriends :)
Well, I had sleepovers with my homosexual best friend almost every week. And even tho I am completely straight and nothing ever happened I highly suspect my parents thought I was gay for a couple years until getting a boyfriend 😂
@@yukiyuukichan5771 maybe they thought, "omg, at least she is bisexuality, thanks gosh" xP
YOUR VOICE IS SO ADDICTING AND CALMING I LOVE YOUR VOICE SM PLS
"Lord alive gen Z I hope someone is giving you better books" one of my nephews brought home a waiver for him to hear "gay people exist, don't hit them" in sex ed. The books I have found are either all about the characters being gay and there's no real story, or portray anyone out of the ordinary as gay (or the slurs, though I learned the word "queer" and a regular symonym for "weird" and now say it occasionally when I forget...)
LOVED "Annie on My Mind" and you take on a Boston accent 10 / 10
Living in the US, I would like to “bleach” my brain regularly...especially right now, ugh. Anyway, as usual, this is a wonderful video! Been following along for a few years and, as I’ve said before, I could listen to you talk all day, everyday 😊 (wish I could join “the club”...maybe some day).
amazing video as always! i love how welcoming and accepting you are, your channel really feels like a safe space for everyone 🥺❤️
"History is an a**hole."
Miss Jessica, 2020
Excellent video, highly insightful and well-crafted and funny. Also, my little ace heart just sang when you said "You can be a lesbian who never wants to have sex with another woman".
We really should learn this stuff in school
“My little gay soul” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣lmao she sent me flying with that line
I’d like to petition you start to refer to this series as queerstory. (I love this!)
On one hand, I'm glad society accepts close female friendship and doesn't assume sex as this was a lot of my relationships in HS and early college, but on the other it made me heavily deny my queerness. I really appreciate you mentioning that sexuality is how you define it, not others. Even though it seems like that concept should be straightforward, it's nice to hear it every now and then 🤗
the ending was really sweet and made me feel really validated and I almost cried
I love your historical videos, and your humor is fantastic :D
fun fact- Anne Lister (gentleman jack) actually visited the ladies of llangollen in their home Plas Newydd and basically knew they were gay, this is before she married Ann Walker and she corresponded with her lover Mariana about them, saying how she would like to live with her in the way the Ladies of Llangollen did!!
As a history major, I can confirm that history is definitely an a**hole. 🤣🤣
Love love LOVE your history videos!
Hi
Your videos are always unbelievably brilliant. How they're edited, your outfits, your personality, humour and intelligence and the content you post are exceptional!
I literally can't cope how much of an ICON you are! 😍