I’m amazed by the love and respect she had for the other women and their children when this system appears to promote competition between wives. She remained loving in spite of everything she went through. That is remarkable!
What i find very strange is that most people interviewed have wonderful child memories. And the families dinamics seem to work quite well. Só I believe that leaving these memories behind or this strong comunity Life behind must more than dificulta, it seems impossíble! How do these women feel for their children when they have just one or two kids while they were raised in huge families? Also no one ever talks about financial problems i Wonder where all this money came from!
I am SO SO SORRY you went through all of that! Absolutely zero judgment. You were completely brainwashed used abused and manipulated by a sociopath. You are SO BRAVE for talking about it all! Love and light to you.
Breaks my heart that she feels guilty for being part of this nightmare. As if she had any choice. Tears. For what it's worth, given the horrific circumstances, I absolutely would have felt a tiny bit better if my children were to be supervised by someone so gentle and kind. At least I would have known they would be loved and cared for in my absence.
Can you imagine being in a marriage so abusive, the guy makes you change your own name? I can not believe the United States allows this abuse to happen to anyone.
My abusive exhusband who was muslim tried to force me to change by name. It took an imam saying my name may be european but it had a good meaning so it was ok. 🙄
@@commonsense2462 Except none of these are cults are religious. Every one of them is about patriarchal control. It's how slavery was excused. It is how you have come ti today's sorry state of affairs with the destruction of Roe v Wade and the discussion of women as sub human property and the ridiculous fear of difference. Freedom of religion is NOT the same thing as freedom to coerce abuse and control, well it shouldn't be at least.
A missionary came walking up my driveway yesterday! We had an interesting ½hr conversation in which I made it clear she will NOT convert me but I am willing to discuss what I believe about her religion while listening to and respecting her beliefs. She left stating she would love to continue our conversation and stop again. 😊 I do hope that Sister Ballard stops by again. I would love to introduce her to my sources! Lol
It’s a wonderful show and I admire all people who rise above and find themselves. They are all beautiful, strong and amazing people. I found out about 20 years ago that my family were some of the Mormon pioneers, donner party and others. And never a mention of it. Right or wrong they were amazing people.
To me this sounds like a weak, insecure man, afraid of women, who sees himself incapable and unwilling to have a real, adult relationship with women. Who doesn't want the inconvenience of women having requirements, demanding their rights, demanding the man to do his share of responsibilities and tasks of an equal relationship. It's so much easier for him to keep women quiet, "sweet" and obeying. He doesn't have to deal with argueing, dissatisfied, even angry women. The women have to do all the work in literally every single aspect of this unequal relationship.
Do u feel same about the prophet/ creator of Islam which had 13 wives youngest 6. Stole from all around legalised sex slaves etc etc it just confuses me how so many support Islam taking over and show disgust to this which is some of same thing but nowhere near as evil as Islam...
I'm sure that's true but the guy thought he was a prophet and that he was better than everybody else. I doubt that any of those things ever even crossed his mind. 🤔
Sadly this instantly reminded me of those Islamic Sheikhs who continue to reject and lobby against banning child marriages claiming it is arrogant and foolish to make forbidden something clearly halal, it's sickening, please protect the children 😢
Don't forget, a bunch of Republicans in the senate here in the also fight against the banning of child marriages and it's still legal in several states. Disgusting.
Thank you Ada for being vulnerable about your experience. You mentioned wanting to marry Warren, and that’s a super vulnerable to share. It also highlight how someone is a product of their environment no matter how wrong it is.. give grace to those who escaped and those who are surviving on the inside. Thank you Shelise for opening your platform as always for survivors to share their stories 🫶🏻
What a brave and gracious lady to be so frank about the abuse she has suffered. The shame is on the abuser. Great to see someone speaking out about this. The power of brainwashing is scary.
Girl, CHANGE YOUR NAME TO WHAT YOU WANT!! It is such an important step in reclaiming yourself. The sound/vibration of what you are called for the rest of your life needs to be pleasant to you, not some name an unhinged, sick, rapist told you that you should be called. You are doing an incredible job reclaiming yourself. Please continue that reclamation and give yourself whatever name YOU want. I promise you, it makes such a difference.
I totally understand this. I legally changed my last name so I didn’t have my abuser’s name anymore. However, some people I’ve interviewed (not sure how Ada Marie feels) say that they want to reclaim their name and not give their power away to that person, so I can understand both sides.
@@CultstoConsciousness I am sorry you had to share a name with your abuser too. I'm proud of you for claiming your own name free from them. I did the same thing and legally changed my name when I was 20. I had zero desire to carry on the name of my abuser in any way, shape or form.
I am sad and angry that you had to endure this and understand how you could be in the “mindset” of participation. You are blameless in all of this. Thank you for being such an honest, strong, loving, compassionate person.
No sane women could, but she was a child. A child, that grew up with a warped normality. If your parents taught you that the sky was green and all your family reitterated that, indeed, the sky was green, you would be like "Well, green it is!" and be shocked in your late teens or early twenties to find out, it was not. And it would feel strange for a long time to call the sky blue, even after you found out.
So all you can comment on is people's physical appearance? That is so superficial and immature: grow up, there's a lot more at stake here than whether anyone is "homely" or "pretty"!
My ex husband is sealed to his second wife even though I’m not dead. I wanted to get divorced in the church but was told your not in polygamy I said I sure am an I don’t want it
Same. My ex remarried in temple, but the new wife was upset thinking I would be part of their relationship in the afterlife. I told her, “don’t worry, HF wouldn’t make me be with that man.”
The interview on Growing Up in Polygamy was so good. Thank you for sharing your story. I had no idea how crazy Warren Jeffs actually was. This is important information for everyone to know. ❤️
Thanks for telling your story, as tough as it much be to discuss. Your bravery & strength is admirable. I wish you all the best & soOo much peace & happiness on the rest of your journey.💜
Did she just say there was a house in downtown SLC with two adult women and ridiculous number of people and one adult man. And no one thought this was weird?
I grew up in Taylorsville, UT, and we all knew where the polyg homes were. No one would have thought it noteworthy. It’s a part of the culture. I had friends who were Allreds and Greens. I’m a Smith descendent with tons of plural marriage in my family tree. It’s a part of the doctrine so the polygs were ostracized but not as villainized back in the day as they are now.
There are entire neighborhoods of plygs in Eagle Mountain and Saratoga Springs, about 40 minutes south of SLC. Everyone in the area knows and the homes, which house like 5 or 6 or more families, are VERY obviously polygamist with multiple entrances and such.
@@orisonorchards4251 I feel it’s like having Amish neighbors. Not shocking, not hidden, just part of the culture. But also, secretly, a little romanticized by the mainstreamers to keep the option within reach. I was always taught that we (Mormons) would absolutely go back to polygamy in the second coming.
If one deep dives the history of the RC church....it qualifys as a cult. Strange but true. Another factoid....Russia and the U.S. have over 2000 cult groups each.
If you believe all the BS about vaccines, or still think any of them are necessary, then you are in a cult as well. It’s not JUST the covid vax. If this is a new idea for you, that the belief in vaccines is the same exact thing as this cult. Then maybe that will help you to understand. If you aren’t already ‘anti vax’, it will take a lot of undoing. But, there’s a lot of other undoing regarding other beliefs you’ve been deceived into believing. And it’s more difficult now… there was a lot of good stuff, pointing to the truth that was removed from the internet in 2020. That should be a red flag. If you are already seeing the mainstream lies, then I hope you are not offended, one cannot make assumptions. But, if this is new to you… imagine running into this woman when she was all in… do you think just telling her, oh no that’s not true, that’s not healthy or whatever… she’s not going to just say to herself, oh you are right, I’ll pack my bags and leave that now, thanks for telling me. Well, if you do believe in vaccines, please take that into consideration. There are millions of people who’ve been murdered and injured by this things… not just the covid… and the actual evidence indicates that vaccines had nothing to do with the decrease in all those diseases they want you to fear.
I was in a "sobriety cult" at 14 that preyed on teenagers and parents ruined my whole life many of my friends passed away. Im so glad you are giving people a voice this was horrific.. thank you for what you do
@@HomeFromFarAway Google it. Very interesting. I had no idea. What a sick world we live in. One name to look for is Bob Meehan. Also, google, American Addiction Foundation. Also, Enthusiastic Sobriety abuse and support.
Ada Marie, you are SO strong and courageous to detail these traumatic events in your life. I am thankful you can feel love and compassion for others who were manipulated by Warren Jeffs. I hope you continue to speak out and bless others with your bravery!
I just watched a whole series of documentaries about WWII, including a pretty in-depth documentary on the leibensborn (I know I’ve misspelled it). I knew about it, not as much as I thought I did. I was totally blown away by how much like the FLDS it sounded. He had tried to turn the garment industry around and wanted them to produce clothing that was more traditional and modest, and started the training schools to train girls to be good Arian wives and boys to be loyal Nazis. He pushed families to have as many children as possible in order to repopulate the world after all the non Arians were done away with or enslaved. He also encouraged his officers to have children outside of their marriages, and all his troops to be involved with women in the “acceptable” conquered nations and opened these “maternity homes” to take care of these women and take charge of these babies. Who wants to make a bet that, had he won the war, polygamy would have come next? Probably, though, he would have been more scientific about it and turned the maternity homes into a type of brothel where pure Arian men could come to impregnate chosen women . I think there was already some of that going on. Everyone was supposed to have pictures of him in their homes and to even “pray” to him. Sound familiar? Scary for sure.
I have never heard about this! It's Sickening & unsettling. I have no idea how I missed knowing about this. Thank you for your commentary on something that was starting to occur that I had no idea existed. What a grotesque framework that plan was.
I just want a montage of Shelise's facial expressions during this interview.. your guest showed such care & expressed respect for her sister wives I almost forgot who we were talking about. Im learning so much.
I would continue to argue that you were only a comfort for those mommas. I cannot imagine losing my son but if my regular babysitter was the one taking him, I know I would be a lot more comfortable. You were their guardian angel.
Warren Jeffs listened to the devil. None of this was how God designed relationships to be. I grew up in a cult, too. Not a polygynist, cult, but a cult where the leader also did things that were abusive and manipulative to members I have so many good memories of growing up and the friendships that were made, but not the doctrine. No way. I go to a different church now and have been baptized and for the first time I feel the presence of Jesus. Post cult awareness comes with mental trauma and guilt and all sorts of emotions that you have to sort out and find yourself and love yourself.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. It's so amazing what you've gone through and how far you've come. The FLDS is something that has interested me for a few years now. I live in ogden. UT. Stay strong 💪
She was programmed, groomed, and manipulated. Then she feels guilty when things don’t go the way Warren wanted them to. I can see years of therapy for this kind, strong, young woman. Thank her for the courage to speak.
I know that not great things are coming later in the story and that it wasn't a utopia obviously. But I'm so grateful that she had loving parents and not a bad childhood.
Also drawn to teaching, psych, high finance, medicine...my point is people are people. It's nice to try to control and label them but if you pay attention it has little to do with anything other than people are people...good luck trying to figure them out.
I always am so blown away when the Canadian flds group is mentioned. They are 30 minutes away from me. It's always blown my mind an abusive cult exists so close. What is always brought up is how the community accepts them because they give so much to their local economy.
Winston Blackmore is also an abusive leader, ie a snake in the grass. Interesting how others will avert their eyes from the abuse if that abusers somehow benefit them, aye?! Doesn't sound like there'd be any help in the community for the oppressed. SMDH
@@starri9103 ya one of his sons was on tiktok a few years ago sharing about his upbringing. I dont know if he's still posting as i dont have tiktok but it would be interesting to get someone from Blackmore's group as well as the Canadian FLDS group (Blackmore broke off from the other FLDS group when Rulon Jeffs became the leader).
Wonderful; what a beautiful person. Great she is a survivor and able to recount the events of the past so articulately! Just beautiful. God bless you all!
I agree that this man is corrupt and gross and deserves prison, but there is another well known prophet that married his 6 year old bride and consummated their marriage when she was 9 and he is still praised very highly to this day!
@@marynorman1729Mohammad took Aisha as a wife at the age of six as she was SO beautiful. But, holy man that he was was able to resist her beauty and not rape… I mean consummate the marriage until she was the ripe old age of 9.
FYI back in the day it was not unusual for young children to be engaged/ married to older men. Not just Muslims. Christians, Jews, Hindus Buddhists all had similar traditions. People didn't live as long as they do now and pedophilia was an unknown concept. Life was short, violent, brutal and extremely misogynistic. Mohammed was simply a product of his 7th century society and culture
The doctor I work with is Mormon. He hasn’t tried to convert me yet! Trying to be educated as much as possible so I can be sensitive and respectful in case he does.
Always such a big fan of the kindness, space and validation you give the guests, I can see it being a very healing experience to gave their thoughts and feelings heard in such an open way
Very few ppl could handle such interviews and topics with as much kindness, validation, and hope as she does. She's even able to interject moments of appropriate levity that somehow lets all of us feel there are still reasons for laughter and joy in this world, despite all the great tragedy. She is gifted at her trade!
41:18: I work at a family planning clinic and that is so frustrating to hear! There is so much more to having babies than “praying” and “blessings”. I am not encouraging them to engage in Fertility Based Awareness, but there is so much that goes into than just sex and healthy sperm- if he has it. Like-what was your body temp when trying to conceive, what was the consistency of your cervical mucus, where was the placement of cervix during intercourse, AND does he have healthy sperm. SO much is put onto the woman as to why they can conceive or not but it’s not a women’s fault.
Thank you for sharing… the only issue that I had with this interview was calling the children that were sexually abused as “younger ladies” They were children and not one adult in there lives protected them from these predators …. Even Ada was a child when she was wed to WJ.
@@nesser1352 It could also be a slight dialect. Calling little girls "young ladies", even if they're preschool age, is common where I'm from and even teenagers will get the "young lady" treatment. Adult women are "ladies" instead. I don't say it much anymore, but adding the prefix of young can be the signifier that they aren't adults in some regional US accents.
We were always called young ladles, even when we were very little. It was very common. And we were nowhere near any cults. This is secular society calling us this, teachers, parents friends. Must be a regional thing. And this woman has been through very serious brainwashing and abuse, too much in her life to have to worry about changing up her language because you have an issue. Let's let her work on herself, and heal, and use whatever terminology she feels comfortable using. This is not about us, or what we might "have an issue with".
Oh my goodness, I have binged your story all day! 😅 I finished up Sam and Melissa’s interview and then an hour later, here you are! 🙌🥳 Thank you so much for sharing… my, what different lives we all live… I’m so happy that you found your way out of that, and that you’re finding your own happiness! 💕 ☺️
My goodness, Ada (Ada Marie?) Hearing you call Warren by his truer name, reflecting back on his comment to you, about you liking him again- I could feel the sound of those words spoken aloud, healing a part of my soul - absolutely exquisite. Excellent 💜⚡️
April 6 is probably more accurate to be fair. I was raised in the denomination men call the Church of Christ and the only religious holiday we celebrated was Sunday. We did celebrate secular Christmas (which I decided when I was three was Santa‘s birthday) and Easter.
As I understand it, the only reason Christmas is celebrated when it is, by most Christians, is that the Church, initially, tried to co-opt as many Pagan traditions as possible, and Winter Solstice (shortest day, longest night of the year, in the Northern Hemisphere) is Dec 21st. Relatedly, Easter used to be a fertility celebration honoring the goddess Ostara. That’s why bunnies and chicks; they symbolize fertility bc they have short gestations and large numbers of offspring. And Santa- that’s a really fun one! Up in Lapland, the shamans would dress to honor their sacrament: the red and white Amanita Muscaria mushrooms which would grow in a circle, around the base of the huge pine-type trees (like gifts!). The shamans would wait for reindeer to ingest the mushrooms (who then, metaphorically, would “fly”), bc the alkaloids in the mushrooms were fatal to humans, until they’d been broken down by the reindeer having ingested them first. The shamans would then (sorry!) drink the reindeers’ pee and would then journey around the village to heal and help their people, raining their wisdom and healings down the through smoke holes (chimneys) of the villagers’ yurts.
Shelise, how do you stay sane after these interviews? How do you take care of yourself and make sure not to feel down? How can you put this aside and smile for your daughter?
I appreciate you. I have to dissociate some. It’s been a while since I’ve been personally triggered in a big emotional way and needed to decompress. I also have to remind myself of the good in the world too, to counterbalance the painful stories I engage with weekly. And find a lot of strength in gratitude for my own happy family and loved ones. ❤️ thanks for your support
I've watched this so many times since you uploaded. Thank you for doing this interview, extremely important. Something's been niggling at me though: there's no such thing as an 'underage woman'. I understand why 'ladies' is used as in the context the line between woman and girl is blurry, but please can you refer to them as underage girls not 'underage women' when talking about SA? 1:25:18
Lived in hurricane Utah, never knew. I always felt sorry for the polygamous women that had to wear that same pattern prairie dress and fix their hair with the braids and swooped bangs but had no idea they were abuse victims, OMG. Thank you for sharing. Glad I moved.
I don't think it has anything to do with the flds, and is just something some western/southern children do(yes even until adulthood). I say as someone that grew up in a families from these regions and have nothing to do with flds
@@jasminemoon9965several of my aunts called their fathers daddy. Also know a lady in the south who called her father daddy. I think it's quite common.
@@jasminemoon9965I'm southern and at 46 I still call my dad, Daddy. My momma still refers to her late father as Daddy and she's 67. When I run into people at the grocery store, the first thing we say to each other is "How's yer momma and them?" Or "How's your Momma and Daddy?" People in East Tennessee and parts of Kentucky say Mommy and that sounds weird to me, so I can understand how Momma and Daddy sound weird to others.
Ada thank you for sharing your experiences in such a public way. You’re beyond strong, such a powerful survivor and throughout your interview I just kept thinking how blessed those little ones were to have you in their lives 💖 can’t wait to hear part 2!
I know, I was thinking that we've heard some awful awful stories on this channel, but this one is going to live rent-free in my head simply because it's just so mind blowing.
What a beautiful heart you have. So sad that your gifts and talents were used against you. What a powerful story you have and you have kept such a gentle and beautiful spirit.
It's very shocking, it's a shame that such things are done, I hope that one day the world will be better, maybe thanks to you the world will be better and smarter
That little bit at the end about what feels right to YOUR heart, not the one they tried to create for you....i am trying to do the same. Im so angry now and feel bad that im angry...it really is manipulation of the highest order that leaves a forever impact on a person. Thank you both for this.
Your a beautiful soul. I'm so sorry for what you went through. Thank you for sharing your stories. I'm thankful you were able to get out of the toxic environment. Your very brave and I'm so proud of you for helping bring the abuse to light. I hope others are able to get out of it too. I wish you happiness and healing for you and all your loved ones.
My heart goes out to you Ada for being so kind and caring for all those children and especially this one little girl. What the state did, separating all those children from their caregivers was so awful. I really hope you all can find peace and healing and a good life. All the best to you🍀🤗🍀🌷🍀. As always great Interview Shelise you always are supporting your guests so wonderfully. Thank you🙏🤗🍀🌼🌞
She has. I strongly suggest you listen to all 4 of her interviews on Growing up in Polygamy aka Sam and Melissa's channel. In part 4 she shares how wonderful her life is now.
Ada Marie is an absolute LEGEND! I’ve watched her very fascinating interview with Sam & Melissa and I’m just so impressed with Ada’s strength and insight after a lifetime of indoctrination and so much chaos and manipulation following her marriage to Warren. I imagine her telling her own story will give other women the strength to start telling their own stories and asking their own questions. And I just really admire Ada Marie for choosing to give purpose to all the awful things she endured by sharing all it’s taught her. On another note - I think Warren Jeffs is as ugly as the sins he’s committed and I’m so very relieved he can no longer impregnate his followers. It’s sickening he’s still controlling them though.
“If you didn’t make Warren feel wanted enough, he’d give you the silent treatment.”
Man, don’t threaten me with a good time!
Agreed!
Textbook narcissistic behavior
Incredible! He should never get out of prison.
I’m amazed by the love and respect she had for the other women and their children when this system appears to promote competition between wives. She remained loving in spite of everything she went through. That is remarkable!
This made the wives “ready to please” in the bedroom. Win for Jeffs and lose for those women, sick!
What i find very strange is that most people interviewed have wonderful child memories. And the families dinamics seem to work quite well. Só I believe that leaving these memories behind or this strong comunity Life behind must more than dificulta, it seems impossíble! How do these women feel for their children when they have just one or two kids while they were raised in huge families? Also no one ever talks about financial problems i Wonder where all this money came from!
I am SO SO SORRY you went through all of that! Absolutely zero judgment. You were completely brainwashed used abused and manipulated by a sociopath. You are SO BRAVE for talking about it all! Love and light to you.
Breaks my heart that she feels guilty for being part of this nightmare. As if she had any choice. Tears. For what it's worth, given the horrific circumstances, I absolutely would have felt a tiny bit better if my children were to be supervised by someone so gentle and kind. At least I would have known they would be loved and cared for in my absence.
Can you imagine being in a marriage so abusive, the guy makes you change your own name? I can not believe the United States allows this abuse to happen to anyone.
The power lies where the money is. They usually control the police force in towns populated by a majority of FLDS members.
The guy is in prison and the USA has freedom of religion.
My abusive exhusband who was muslim tried to force me to change by name. It took an imam saying my name may be european but it had a good meaning so it was ok. 🙄
The united states trafficks children more than any other organization. Why do you think they want open borders.
@@commonsense2462 Except none of these are cults are religious. Every one of them is about patriarchal control. It's how slavery was excused. It is how you have come ti today's sorry state of affairs with the destruction of Roe v Wade and the discussion of women as sub human property and the ridiculous fear of difference. Freedom of religion is NOT the same thing as freedom to coerce abuse and control, well it shouldn't be at least.
Her interview with Sam and Melissa was riveting. Thanks for having her on! She has such an interesting perspective to offer.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Agreed! I was so pumped to see this.
Yeah it was outstanding. She could write Top 1 bestseller like that other lady who left with 6 kids in the early 00s.
do you know what it’s called?
A missionary came walking up my driveway yesterday! We had an interesting ½hr conversation in which I made it clear she will NOT convert me but I am willing to discuss what I believe about her religion while listening to and respecting her beliefs. She left stating she would love to continue our conversation and stop again. 😊 I do hope that Sister Ballard stops by again. I would love to introduce her to my sources! Lol
This is excellent :))
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@@CultstoConsciousness she just sent me the video she promised!
I love this 🤣😂🤣😂
It’s a wonderful show and I admire all people who rise above and find themselves. They are all beautiful, strong and amazing people.
I found out about 20 years ago that my family were some of the Mormon pioneers, donner party and others. And never a mention of it. Right or wrong they were amazing people.
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
Power to survivors!
Keep speaking out! I support you ❤
To me this sounds like a weak, insecure
man, afraid of women, who sees himself incapable and unwilling to have a real, adult relationship with women. Who doesn't want the inconvenience of women having requirements, demanding their rights, demanding the man to do his share of responsibilities and tasks of an equal relationship. It's so much easier for him to keep women quiet, "sweet" and obeying. He doesn't have to deal with argueing, dissatisfied, even angry women. The women have to do all the work in literally every single aspect of this unequal relationship.
Do u feel same about the prophet/ creator of Islam which had 13 wives youngest 6. Stole from all around legalised sex slaves etc etc it just confuses me how so many support Islam taking over and show disgust to this which is some of same thing but nowhere near as evil as Islam...
Plus sex at his command ...when that wasn't enough he went for 12 year Olds and group sex ....its completely twisted 😮
I'm sure that's true but the guy thought he was a prophet and that he was better than everybody else. I doubt that any of those things ever even crossed his mind. 🤔
You described most men this era
@@comunicaciondigitalspep7562 it makes absolutely no sense in this day and age for a man to get married.
Sadly this instantly reminded me of those Islamic Sheikhs who continue to reject and lobby against banning child marriages claiming it is arrogant and foolish to make forbidden something clearly halal, it's sickening, please protect the children 😢
Don't forget, a bunch of Republicans in the senate here in the also fight against the banning of child marriages and it's still legal in several states. Disgusting.
Thank you Ada for being vulnerable about your experience. You mentioned wanting to marry Warren, and that’s a super vulnerable to share.
It also highlight how someone is a product of their environment no matter how wrong it is.. give grace to those who escaped and those who are surviving on the inside.
Thank you Shelise for opening your platform as always for survivors to share their stories 🫶🏻
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What a brave and gracious lady to be so frank about the abuse she has suffered. The shame is on the abuser. Great to see someone speaking out about this. The power of brainwashing is scary.
Spot on! There really isn’t any difference and none of them has to do with religion.
Girl, CHANGE YOUR NAME TO WHAT YOU WANT!! It is such an important step in reclaiming yourself. The sound/vibration of what you are called for the rest of your life needs to be pleasant to you, not some name an unhinged, sick, rapist told you that you should be called. You are doing an incredible job reclaiming yourself. Please continue that reclamation and give yourself whatever name YOU want. I promise you, it makes such a difference.
I think it’s super interesting that in some cultures, everyone gets a new name, when they begin a new phase of their lives. Makes a lot of sense, IMO
I totally understand this. I legally changed my last name so I didn’t have my abuser’s name anymore. However, some people I’ve interviewed (not sure how Ada Marie feels) say that they want to reclaim their name and not give their power away to that person, so I can understand both sides.
@@CultstoConsciousness I am sorry you had to share a name with your abuser too. I'm proud of you for claiming your own name free from them. I did the same thing and legally changed my name when I was 20. I had zero desire to carry on the name of my abuser in any way, shape or form.
I was thinking about that too !!
Exactly. Cut ALL ties, otherwise you're still living under his rule.
I absolutely love that you took your power back by speaking out!
I am sad and angry that you had to endure this and understand how you could be in the “mindset” of participation. You are blameless in all of this. Thank you for being such an honest, strong, loving, compassionate person.
Wow. She was victimized, manipulated, abused..every which way to Sunday. And she's doing OK. I can't imagine enduring these atrocities.
"doing ok" is a relative term
Wow! This was a heavy topic today. Thank you both for sharing.
And he is SOOOO homely and this gal is soooo pretty ! I don't know how any woman could have been attracted to that creep.
Me too. Me too.
She was only a girl then, not yet a woman. And she grew up in the system.
She was 16 and in a cult…
No sane women could, but she was a child. A child, that grew up with a warped normality. If your parents taught you that the sky was green and all your family reitterated that, indeed, the sky was green, you would be like "Well, green it is!" and be shocked in your late teens or early twenties to find out, it was not. And it would feel strange for a long time to call the sky blue, even after you found out.
So all you can comment on is people's physical appearance? That is so superficial and immature: grow up, there's a lot more at stake here than whether anyone is "homely" or "pretty"!
Shelise your face when she dropped some of these nuggets😂🤯🤯 Same, girl. Thank you so much for all the good work you’re doing. It’s so important 🖤
My ex husband is sealed to his second wife even though I’m not dead. I wanted to get divorced in the church but was told your not in polygamy
I said I sure am an I don’t want it
Thanks for sharing that!
If you strike your records from the church, you're basically self-excommunicated, which I think means you would be temple divorced.
Same. My ex remarried in temple, but the new wife was upset thinking I would be part of their relationship in the afterlife. I told her, “don’t worry, HF wouldn’t make me be with that man.”
The interview on Growing Up in Polygamy was so good. Thank you for sharing your story. I had no idea how crazy Warren Jeffs actually was. This is important information for everyone to know. ❤️
Thank you for continuing to give a voice to the people coming forward.
😂 “he didn’t marry his mothers that were his mothers” WOW
How Nobel 😅
Thanks for telling your story, as tough as it much be to discuss. Your bravery & strength is admirable. I wish you all the best & soOo much peace & happiness on the rest of your journey.💜
👏 I've watched her full interview on GUIP but am happy to hear her again and support her here.
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Did she just say there was a house in downtown SLC with two adult women and ridiculous number of people and one adult man. And no one thought this was weird?
I grew up in Taylorsville, UT, and we all knew where the polyg homes were. No one would have thought it noteworthy. It’s a part of the culture. I had friends who were Allreds and Greens. I’m a Smith descendent with tons of plural marriage in my family tree. It’s a part of the doctrine so the polygs were ostracized but not as villainized back in the day as they are now.
There are entire neighborhoods of plygs in Eagle Mountain and Saratoga Springs, about 40 minutes south of SLC. Everyone in the area knows and the homes, which house like 5 or 6 or more families, are VERY obviously polygamist with multiple entrances and such.
@@orisonorchards4251 I feel it’s like having Amish neighbors. Not shocking, not hidden, just part of the culture. But also, secretly, a little romanticized by the mainstreamers to keep the option within reach. I was always taught that we (Mormons) would absolutely go back to polygamy in the second coming.
Cult mentality is so far from understanding when not in the cult it’s beyond hard to grasp. Seems like science fiction
If one deep dives the history of the RC church....it qualifys as a cult. Strange but true. Another factoid....Russia and the U.S. have over 2000 cult groups each.
If you believe all the BS about vaccines, or still think any of them are necessary, then you are in a cult as well. It’s not JUST the covid vax. If this is a new idea for you, that the belief in vaccines is the same exact thing as this cult. Then maybe that will help you to understand. If you aren’t already ‘anti vax’, it will take a lot of undoing. But, there’s a lot of other undoing regarding other beliefs you’ve been deceived into believing. And it’s more difficult now… there was a lot of good stuff, pointing to the truth that was removed from the internet in 2020. That should be a red flag. If you are already seeing the mainstream lies, then I hope you are not offended, one cannot make assumptions. But, if this is new to you… imagine running into this woman when she was all in… do you think just telling her, oh no that’s not true, that’s not healthy or whatever… she’s not going to just say to herself, oh you are right, I’ll pack my bags and leave that now, thanks for telling me. Well, if you do believe in vaccines, please take that into consideration. There are millions of people who’ve been murdered and injured by this things… not just the covid… and the actual evidence indicates that vaccines had nothing to do with the decrease in all those diseases they want you to fear.
A more relatable cult is the military, though many won't view it that way. Freemasonry is another one.
This is horrifying. What strength she has to not only have survived and share these experiences. Thank you.
I was in a "sobriety cult" at 14 that preyed on teenagers and parents ruined my whole life many of my friends passed away. Im so glad you are giving people a voice this was horrific.. thank you for what you do
Is a sobriety cult something akin to AA?? I'm so sorry for your trauma. This sounds horrific. ❤
what is a sobriety cult?
@@HomeFromFarAway Google it. Very interesting. I had no idea. What a sick world we live in. One name to look for is Bob Meehan. Also, google, American Addiction Foundation. Also, Enthusiastic Sobriety abuse and support.
Ada Marie, you are SO strong and courageous to detail these traumatic events in your life. I am thankful you can feel love and compassion for others who were manipulated by Warren Jeffs. I hope you continue to speak out and bless others with your bravery!
She is amazing! One of my favorite interviews you guys have done.
I just watched a whole series of documentaries about WWII, including a pretty in-depth documentary on the leibensborn (I know I’ve misspelled it). I knew about it, not as much as I thought I did. I was totally blown away by how much like the FLDS it sounded. He had tried to turn the garment industry around and wanted them to produce clothing that was more traditional and modest, and started the training schools to train girls to be good Arian wives and boys to be loyal Nazis. He pushed families to have as many children as possible in order to repopulate the world after all the non Arians were done away with or enslaved. He also encouraged his officers to have children outside of their marriages, and all his troops to be involved with women in the “acceptable” conquered nations and opened these “maternity homes” to take care of these women and take charge of these babies. Who wants to make a bet that, had he won the war, polygamy would have come next? Probably, though, he would have been more scientific about it and turned the maternity homes into a type of brothel where pure Arian men could come to impregnate chosen women . I think there was already some of that going on. Everyone was supposed to have pictures of him in their homes and to even “pray” to him. Sound familiar? Scary for sure.
Yeah that whole side story is wild.
I have never heard about this! It's Sickening & unsettling. I have no idea how I missed knowing about this. Thank you for your commentary on something that was starting to occur that I had no idea existed. What a grotesque framework that plan was.
Holly Thanks for exposing this history
Ada what he did or didnt do to the younger girls... is NOT your responsibility. What he did to you is NOT your fault.
I just want a montage of Shelise's facial expressions during this interview.. your guest showed such care & expressed respect for her sister wives I almost forgot who we were talking about. Im learning so much.
I watched every minute of her interview with Sam and Melissa.
Truly incredible.
I was looking for it. I cannot seem to find it. When did they interview her?
I would continue to argue that you were only a comfort for those mommas. I cannot imagine losing my son but if my regular babysitter was the one taking him, I know I would be a lot more comfortable. You were their guardian angel.
Warren Jeffs listened to the devil. None of this was how God designed relationships to be. I grew up in a cult, too. Not a polygynist, cult, but a cult where the leader also did things that were abusive and manipulative to members I have so many good memories of growing up and the friendships that were made, but not the doctrine. No way. I go to a different church now and have been baptized and for the first time I feel the presence of Jesus. Post cult awareness comes with mental trauma and guilt and all sorts of emotions that you have to sort out and find yourself and love yourself.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. It's so amazing what you've gone through and how far you've come. The FLDS is something that has interested me for a few years now. I live in ogden. UT. Stay strong 💪
She was programmed, groomed, and manipulated. Then she feels guilty when things don’t go the way Warren wanted them to. I can see years of therapy for this kind, strong, young woman. Thank her for the courage to speak.
Barbara I hope so
Emotional abuse and mistreatment should be against the law and prosecuted as such !!!!!
WOW.
God bless you, Ada.
Thank you for sharing your story with us 🙏
😮😮😮😮😮h. 😮 .
What’s wonderful about long form is that you know it’s not edited down and cobbled back together
I know that not great things are coming later in the story and that it wasn't a utopia obviously. But I'm so grateful that she had loving parents and not a bad childhood.
Note: Narcissist are drawn to religion for endless "supply"
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They're usually in leadership positions
Also drawn to teaching, psych, high finance, medicine...my point is people are people. It's nice to try to control and label them but if you pay attention it has little to do with anything other than people are people...good luck trying to figure them out.
I always am so blown away when the Canadian flds group is mentioned. They are 30 minutes away from me. It's always blown my mind an abusive cult exists so close. What is always brought up is how the community accepts them because they give so much to their local economy.
Hi from Saskatchwan. I first heard about the Bountiful group; in our church in Sechelt BC; as a teen in the early 90s. We would often pray for them.
Winston Blackmore is also an abusive leader, ie a snake in the grass. Interesting how others will avert their eyes from the abuse if that abusers somehow benefit them, aye?! Doesn't sound like there'd be any help in the community for the oppressed. SMDH
It always comes down to money 😢
@@starri9103 I know he's literally a predator and everyone's like well his 160 kids need to eat so it helps the economy. Yes he has 160ish kids!
@@starri9103 ya one of his sons was on tiktok a few years ago sharing about his upbringing. I dont know if he's still posting as i dont have tiktok but it would be interesting to get someone from Blackmore's group as well as the Canadian FLDS group (Blackmore broke off from the other FLDS group when Rulon Jeffs became the leader).
Wonderful; what a beautiful person. Great she is a survivor and able to recount the events of the past so articulately! Just beautiful. God bless you all!
Narcissists never apologize. I'm so sorry both of you were in this heinous cult. Glad you're both out!
I agree that this man is corrupt and gross and deserves prison, but there is another well known prophet that married his 6 year old bride and consummated their marriage when she was 9 and he is still praised very highly to this day!
Who is he?
See our most recent 3 Muslim videos and live streams. This is talked about
@@marynorman1729Mohammad took Aisha as a wife at the age of six as she was SO beautiful. But, holy man that he was was able to resist her beauty and not rape… I mean consummate the marriage until she was the ripe old age of 9.
FYI back in the day it was not unusual for young children to be engaged/ married to older men. Not just Muslims. Christians, Jews, Hindus Buddhists all had similar traditions. People didn't live as long as they do now and pedophilia was an unknown concept. Life was short, violent, brutal and extremely misogynistic. Mohammed was simply a product of his 7th century society and culture
SO disgusting!!!@@codename495
Thank you for sharing and making others conscious. 💙💙💙
The doctor I work with is Mormon. He hasn’t tried to convert me yet! Trying to be educated as much as possible so I can be sensitive and respectful in case he does.
Liked. Shared. Commented. Up the algorithm!
This woman is so strong I'm so glad all the kids at least had ladies that really loved them thank you for sharing your story
Always such a big fan of the kindness, space and validation you give the guests, I can see it being a very healing experience to gave their thoughts and feelings heard in such an open way
Very few ppl could handle such interviews and topics with as much kindness, validation, and hope as she does. She's even able to interject moments of appropriate levity that somehow lets all of us feel there are still reasons for laughter and joy in this world, despite all the great tragedy. She is gifted at her trade!
It's very nice to listen a person so honest, also to herself.
6 hours?! Welp, I know what I am watching next I guess because I am hooked!
She still sounds so innocent. Bless her heart. She's still such a child at heart
Vickie Arrested emotional development from early childhood abuse
41:18: I work at a family planning clinic and that is so frustrating to hear! There is so much more to having babies than “praying” and “blessings”. I am not encouraging them to engage in Fertility Based Awareness, but there is so much that goes into than just sex and healthy sperm- if he has it. Like-what was your body temp when trying to conceive, what was the consistency of your cervical mucus, where was the placement of cervix during intercourse, AND does he have healthy sperm. SO much is put onto the woman as to why they can conceive or not but it’s not a women’s fault.
What an INCREDIBLY CREEPY SMILE. 😱
Enough to make you run as fast and as far as possible.
Thank you for sharing… the only issue that I had with this interview was calling the children that were sexually abused as “younger ladies”
They were children and not one adult in there lives protected them from these predators …. Even Ada was a child when she was wed to WJ.
That was probably part of the doctrination that she dealt with. That way they didn't see it as child abuse.
@@nesser1352 It could also be a slight dialect. Calling little girls "young ladies", even if they're preschool age, is common where I'm from and even teenagers will get the "young lady" treatment. Adult women are "ladies" instead. I don't say it much anymore, but adding the prefix of young can be the signifier that they aren't adults in some regional US accents.
We were always called young ladles, even when we were very little. It was very common. And we were nowhere near any cults. This is secular society calling us this, teachers, parents friends. Must be a regional thing. And this woman has been through very serious brainwashing and abuse, too much in her life to have to worry about changing up her language because you have an issue. Let's let her work on herself, and heal, and use whatever terminology she feels comfortable using. This is not about us, or what we might "have an issue with".
State did not do right by these women and kids.....they were not criminals......they were victims
What a brave, compassionate, and forthright woman.
I finished watching Ada Maries story today. I am in awe of her strength.
Oh my goodness, I have binged your story all day! 😅 I finished up Sam and Melissa’s interview and then an hour later, here you are! 🙌🥳 Thank you so much for sharing… my, what different lives we all live… I’m so happy that you found your way out of that, and that you’re finding your own happiness! 💕 ☺️
Wow this was crazy. Thank you for sharing!
I thought it was a very informative video! I am so glad she got out! I can only imagine how betrayed she must feel after knowing the truth.
I’ve been waiting for the next part of Sam and Melissa’s interview with Amy!
"Religion poisons everything."
My goodness, Ada (Ada Marie?) Hearing you call Warren by his truer name, reflecting back on his comment to you, about you liking him again- I could feel the sound of those words spoken aloud, healing a part of my soul - absolutely exquisite. Excellent 💜⚡️
Thank you❤
April 6 is probably more accurate to be fair. I was raised in the denomination men call the Church of Christ and the only religious holiday we celebrated was Sunday. We did celebrate secular Christmas (which I decided when I was three was Santa‘s birthday) and Easter.
As I understand it, the only reason Christmas is celebrated when it is, by most Christians, is that the Church, initially, tried to co-opt as many Pagan traditions as possible, and Winter Solstice (shortest day, longest night of the year, in the Northern Hemisphere) is Dec 21st. Relatedly, Easter used to be a fertility celebration honoring the goddess Ostara. That’s why bunnies and chicks; they symbolize fertility bc they have short gestations and large numbers of offspring.
And Santa- that’s a really fun one! Up in Lapland, the shamans would dress to honor their sacrament: the red and white Amanita Muscaria mushrooms which would grow in a circle, around the base of the huge pine-type trees (like gifts!). The shamans would wait for reindeer to ingest the mushrooms (who then, metaphorically, would “fly”), bc the alkaloids in the mushrooms were fatal to humans, until they’d been broken down by the reindeer having ingested them first. The shamans would then (sorry!) drink the reindeers’ pee and would then journey around the village to heal and help their people, raining their wisdom and healings down the through smoke holes (chimneys) of the villagers’ yurts.
That’s so interesting! Thanks for sharing / teaching me something new ❤️
Shelise, how do you stay sane after these interviews? How do you take care of yourself and make sure not to feel down? How can you put this aside and smile for your daughter?
I appreciate you. I have to dissociate some. It’s been a while since I’ve been personally triggered in a big emotional way and needed to decompress. I also have to remind myself of the good in the world too, to counterbalance the painful stories I engage with weekly. And find a lot of strength in gratitude for my own happy family and loved ones. ❤️ thanks for your support
Total respect for this rock-solid woman. She has survived beautifully. Such an excellent communicator. Great interview!
I've watched this so many times since you uploaded. Thank you for doing this interview, extremely important. Something's been niggling at me though: there's no such thing as an 'underage woman'. I understand why 'ladies' is used as in the context the line between woman and girl is blurry, but please can you refer to them as underage girls not 'underage women' when talking about SA? 1:25:18
I find it interesting that former flds members often call their dad, father or daddy.
Lived in hurricane Utah, never knew. I always felt sorry for the polygamous women that had to wear that same pattern prairie dress and fix their hair with the braids and swooped bangs but had no idea they were abuse victims, OMG. Thank you for sharing. Glad I moved.
I don't think it has anything to do with the flds, and is just something some western/southern children do(yes even until adulthood). I say as someone that grew up in a families from these regions and have nothing to do with flds
@@jasminemoon9965several of my aunts called their fathers daddy. Also know a lady in the south who called her father daddy. I think it's quite common.
@@jasminemoon9965I'm southern and at 46 I still call my dad, Daddy. My momma still refers to her late father as Daddy and she's 67. When I run into people at the grocery store, the first thing we say to each other is "How's yer momma and them?" Or "How's your Momma and Daddy?" People in East Tennessee and parts of Kentucky say Mommy and that sounds weird to me, so I can understand how Momma and Daddy sound weird to others.
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Thank you for sharing your story with us, Ada Marie!
Ada thank you for sharing your experiences in such a public way. You’re beyond strong, such a powerful survivor and throughout your interview I just kept thinking how blessed those little ones were to have you in their lives 💖 can’t wait to hear part 2!
I'm traumatized just from listening to this story. I can't imagine going through it. God bless you, Ada Marie. Thank you for sharing.❤
I know, I was thinking that we've heard some awful awful stories on this channel, but this one is going to live rent-free in my head simply because it's just so mind blowing.
What a beautiful soul. Can't wait for part 2! ❤
So he made these spiritual women , lesbians 😮 yet if they fail in love each other , it was probably a sin
If I were in this cult, I would have probably fell in love with a sister wife and not him
Ada Marie, I am so glad that you are out. Thank you for sharing this difficult part of your life. You are brave and strong.
Ada you are beyond an inspiration. So proud of you.
Shelise is a rock star!
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Why does law enforcement allow this it is as bad as smex trafficking or worse the young girls are treated like property
So he kept Amy on as a nanny to the children of his other wives. She was a nanny wife!
Wow, what a story. I thought I left a cult - wasn’t nearly as fucked up as this 🤯
What cult were you in? Tbh it may not be as fucked up as this but your experience is valid
Same! Just uploaded a video exposing the shit my cult taught but this is a whole other level!🤮
I think even "mild" cults are traumatic. comparison is the mother of misery, as they say
What a beautiful heart you have. So sad that your gifts and talents were used against you. What a powerful story you have and you have kept such a gentle and beautiful spirit.
Thank you for sharing your story Ada. Your voice is so important.
It's very shocking, it's a shame that such things are done, I hope that one day the world will be better, maybe thanks to you the world will be better and smarter
That little bit at the end about what feels right to YOUR heart, not the one they tried to create for you....i am trying to do the same. Im so angry now and feel bad that im angry...it really is manipulation of the highest order that leaves a forever impact on a person. Thank you both for this.
Your a beautiful soul. I'm so sorry for what you went through. Thank you for sharing your stories. I'm thankful you were able to get out of the toxic environment. Your very brave and I'm so proud of you for helping bring the abuse to light. I hope others are able to get out of it too. I wish you happiness and healing for you and all your loved ones.
My heart goes out to you Ada for being so kind and caring for all those children and especially this one little girl. What the state did, separating all those children from their caregivers was so awful. I really hope you all can find peace and healing and a good life. All the best to you🍀🤗🍀🌷🍀. As always great Interview Shelise you always are supporting your guests so wonderfully. Thank you🙏🤗🍀🌼🌞
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She has. I strongly suggest you listen to all 4 of her interviews on Growing up in Polygamy aka Sam and Melissa's channel. In part 4 she shares how wonderful her life is now.
The state only temporarily took custody of the kids. They were returned after it was determined if they had been abused and needed counseling support.
Thank you for sharing your very personal story... talking about it brings light to darkness!
Thanks!
Thanks again for having these conversations.
Funny how he moves them to Texas and that’s where they actually came and got the children.
Can I just say Chelise you look beautiful! This account of everything just broke my heart. What a strong woman this guest is.
What a lovely and strong woman! Thank you for giving us this insight.
Thank you for sharing, u look very peaceful not damaged. That you sharing your story without getting emotional ur very strong and brave.
Ada Marie is an absolute LEGEND! I’ve watched her very fascinating interview with Sam & Melissa and I’m just so impressed with Ada’s strength and insight after a lifetime of indoctrination and so much chaos and manipulation following her marriage to Warren. I imagine her telling her own story will give other women the strength to start telling their own stories and asking their own questions. And I just really admire Ada Marie for choosing to give purpose to all the awful things she endured by sharing all it’s taught her.
On another note - I think Warren Jeffs is as ugly as the sins he’s committed and I’m so very relieved he can no longer impregnate his followers. It’s sickening he’s still controlling them though.
Ada Draper is so brave. ❤ TY to her for sharing her story
These poor women were forced to abuse each other.