What would be really useful is a video explaining how to proceed if the gas rate is not within -10% and +5%. A lot of these gas courses cover how to gas rate but don’t really go into how to classify when it’s not within tolerance and also how to rectify.
@@edmetcalfe8974 what like? All got to do with the gas pipe itself, either too big, too small, blocked, too many bends etc if that’s what you mean? all boils down to pipe though
@@rjv9858 Could also be faulty regulator at the meter causing low pressure, distance from meter to appliance, pipe size, gas escape on system, bad gas valve? many reasons.
SUGGESTION: Gas fires. How to recognise the different types. To this day, I don't really know if I'm looking at a radiant, dfe, inset or whatever else. Fires are my Achilles heel Lol.
Have you seen that some manufactures of boilers are stating the type of circuit breaker that is needed? I saw on a recent discussion board that a type B was needed? It also went on to state that they recommend a SPD (surge Protection Device) in the fusebox/fuseboard/CU to protect the sensitive equipment on the PCB of the boiler
Can you clarify the 5% above and 10% under as TB 141 states that under BS297 & BS EN 483 the 5% and 10% are tolerances during manufacture of the appliance for CE approval. However there is no specific tolerance stated anywhere that is applicable to gas rating at the time of commission or servicing. I think this is possibly a rule that has got mixed up as it has been past down from person to person since 2012 when it came out.... Thanks
Great video but you ideally want to spray LDF generously around the isolation tap of the gas under boiler once disturbed, not just the isolation screw. When disturbing the ECV by moving it also wanna spray around the handle, spray the anaconda and the two nuts in and out of the meter for peace of mind. Great video tho, nice and informative. Video suggestion would be safe electrical isolation, safe to touch test and checking the polarities etc on the boiler and the house. Many a time do I have a chat with engineers and they just don't do it. An idea mate :) Checking the voltages across live and switch live on diverter valves is another idea mate, allowing newcomers to establish correct functioning (or incorrect) of the switch itself.
All true however this has nothing to do with tightness tests or meters other a than gas rating so you are really only going to use ldf on the appliance iso and / burner pressure test point
@@tomadams94 true, just popping a few extra safety things in there in case a new starter sees something they wanna pick up; if they anything like I was back in day they will be watching everything and reading everything :)
Good video very educational obviously lots of content about cheques for boilers as a gas engineers and gas safety books you know it was so much content to be honest with you it was talking about if you look combash and operation you know the safe functioning of appliances obviously here we talking about the boiler inlet working pressure 18 millibar whatever he was chatting about also the gas rating I think the metre was Imperial And it just timed it for one minute and with the formula that he's got you know 2nd per hour time the 1040 divide the second of the you know revolution For a minute full revolution it was good you know I mean for me it was very educational and I understand the lot it talked about supervision device FSD Flame Supervision device you know and so they called that 26.9 obviously is more cheques in it like checking the themistar checking the divert valve checking the pump checking condensing trap checking the perhaps PCB checking the PRV checking you know in and out the visual cheques and also tidying up the older connexion you know because boiler working and vibrating so it loses the connexion so plug them back in again you know all the connexions is good this video was good I wanna say thank you it was very educational It's not easy to be a guest engineer be honest with you It required lots of training lots of study lots of experience The very dangerous job and a skill so also I remember talking about ventilation adventacious part as well so a lot of things to take on be honest with you when you're doing a 26.9 cheque and you know I suppose tightness test as well it should be part of it i'm not sure because it connects to the metre and then you need to see if there is any leaks or not so you have to do a tightness test so it's a lots of you know a study and lots of the material and information to take in but once you do it all the time it become like second nature you don't really think about all these steps once you enter the anywhere you're looking at boiler it's just your eyes automatically everything is just observing all these points and obviously also do the analysing you know combustion analyse cheque the ratio carbon monoxide everything also need to look at the data batch of the boiler how many kilowatts it is what kind of boiler it is and the electrical electrical is also part of it because you need to cheque the cables they are flexible fire rated and correct size terminated well installed well and fuse connexion you need 13 amp fuse all these things I think are part of the checking but it's more about safety but 26.9 I suppose is more to do with technical part of the boiler and installation so pipe works boiler metre regulator and installation you know however thank you very much for this information I really appreciate it
It’s a shame these rules only apply to certain engineers, national gas supplier contractors exempt according to Gas Safe! How does that work? One rule for us and another for them, surely NG has the same risk whoever works on it? No wonder people leave this trade.
Why do the Big Gas companies only do a tightness test on a landlords, But private households just bring fault code up on a boiler and don’t do mini tightness? UA-cam warriors don’t want to talk about it
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What would be really useful is a video explaining how to proceed if the gas rate is not within -10% and +5%. A lot of these gas courses cover how to gas rate but don’t really go into how to classify when it’s not within tolerance and also how to rectify.
Upsize / downsize pipe to achieve gas rate
@@rjv9858 assuming the problem is with pipe sizing. Lots of things can adversely affect gas rate.
@@edmetcalfe8974 what like? All got to do with the gas pipe itself, either too big, too small, blocked, too many bends etc if that’s what you mean? all boils down to pipe though
@@rjv9858 Could also be faulty regulator at the meter causing low pressure, distance from meter to appliance, pipe size, gas escape on system, bad gas valve? many reasons.
@@JayGasEssexyour standing pressure would have clarified a faulty governor
Great presentation. Should have the customers watching this. Especially the penny pinching landlords.
SUGGESTION: Gas fires. How to recognise the different types. To this day, I don't really know if I'm looking at a radiant, dfe, inset or whatever else.
Fires are my Achilles heel Lol.
I really enjoy this type of videos, good job guys
Have you seen that some manufactures of boilers are stating the type of circuit breaker that is needed? I saw on a recent discussion board that a type B was needed? It also went on to state that they recommend a SPD (surge Protection Device) in the fusebox/fuseboard/CU to protect the sensitive equipment on the PCB of the boiler
Can you clarify the 5% above and 10% under as TB 141 states that under BS297 & BS EN 483 the 5% and 10% are tolerances during manufacture of the appliance for CE approval. However there is no specific tolerance stated anywhere that is applicable to gas rating at the time of commission or servicing. I think this is possibly a rule that has got mixed up as it has been past down from person to person since 2012 when it came out.... Thanks
Great video..
Can how about a video on gas fires on 26.9 checks
Good video.👍...when you gas rate cooker ,do the oven and grill have to be switched on as well?
Great video but you ideally want to spray LDF generously around the isolation tap of the gas under boiler once disturbed, not just the isolation screw. When disturbing the ECV by moving it also wanna spray around the handle, spray the anaconda and the two nuts in and out of the meter for peace of mind. Great video tho, nice and informative.
Video suggestion would be safe electrical isolation, safe to touch test and checking the polarities etc on the boiler and the house. Many a time do I have a chat with engineers and they just don't do it. An idea mate :)
Checking the voltages across live and switch live on diverter valves is another idea mate, allowing newcomers to establish correct functioning (or incorrect) of the switch itself.
All true however this has nothing to do with tightness tests or meters other a than gas rating so you are really only going to use ldf on the appliance iso and / burner pressure test point
@@tomadams94 true, just popping a few extra safety things in there in case a new starter sees something they wanna pick up; if they anything like I was back in day they will be watching everything and reading everything :)
@@sasanheating no it’s good practice a lot of people don’t spray valves after touching them! 👍🏻
Another great video allen
Yesss Allen done and dusted...but great video to learn from 🙏
Can I ask If the gas rate I got lower than manufactory book how can I do thanks.
Allen, PLEASE PLEASE do i video on regulation 26.2 nobody talks about this regulation.
I will look into it. Thanks.
These videos really are good Allen
11.50 :- 3 burners on a hob to Gas Rate ? is'nt 3 burners on a hob to check for working/operating pressure?
Yes mate. Slip of the tongue. Well spotted.
great presentation
Great video thanks for your efforts lads ..
didnt check your analyser for O2 before testing the boiler. and then no flue integrity was done either.
Great video. Cheers
No flue integrity test?
Isn’t that only if the flue is in void?
why didn’t he start gas rate test at the rite point on the gas meter ?
Good video very educational obviously lots of content about cheques for boilers as a gas engineers and gas safety books you know it was so much content to be honest with you it was talking about if you look combash and operation you know the safe functioning of appliances obviously here we talking about the boiler inlet working pressure 18 millibar whatever he was chatting about also the gas rating I think the metre was Imperial And it just timed it for one minute and with the formula that he's got you know 2nd per hour time the 1040 divide the second of the you know revolution For a minute full revolution it was good you know I mean for me it was very educational and I understand the lot it talked about supervision device FSD Flame Supervision device you know and so they called that 26.9 obviously is more cheques in it like checking the themistar
checking the divert valve checking the pump checking condensing trap checking the perhaps PCB checking the PRV checking you know in and out the visual cheques and also tidying up the older connexion you know because boiler working and vibrating so it loses the connexion so plug them back in again you know all the connexions is good this video was good I wanna say thank you it was very educational It's not easy to be a guest engineer be honest with you It required lots of training lots of study lots of experience The very dangerous job and a skill so also I remember talking about ventilation adventacious part as well so a lot of things to take on be honest with you when you're doing a 26.9 cheque and you know I suppose tightness test as well it should be part of it i'm not sure because it connects to the metre and then you need to see if there is any leaks or not so you have to do a tightness test so it's a lots of you know a study and lots of the material and information to take in but once you do it all the time it become like second nature you don't really think about all these steps once you enter the anywhere you're looking at boiler it's just your eyes automatically everything is just observing all these points and obviously also do the analysing you know combustion analyse cheque the ratio carbon monoxide everything also need to look at the data batch of the boiler how many kilowatts it is what kind of boiler it is and the electrical electrical is also part of it because you need to cheque the cables they are flexible fire rated and correct size terminated well installed well and fuse connexion you need 13 amp fuse all these things I think are part of the checking but it's more about safety but 26.9 I suppose is more to do with technical part of the boiler and installation so pipe works boiler metre regulator and installation you know however thank you very much for this information I really appreciate it
Thanks Allen top video
1097:31=35.38 kW gross
a shorter way of doing it
It’s a shame these rules only apply to certain engineers, national gas supplier contractors exempt according to Gas Safe! How does that work? One rule for us and another for them, surely NG has the same risk whoever works on it? No wonder people leave this trade.
🤘😎🤘
Why do the Big Gas companies only do a tightness test on a landlords,
But private households just bring fault code up on a boiler and don’t do mini tightness?
UA-cam warriors don’t want to talk about it
Personally if your a gas engineer and you dont know 26.9 checks, your not competent and should never be doing gas.