Honestly, when we see Rapunzel's tower get destroyed, you can understand her pain because despite all that trauma and being manipulated her whole life, that was still her home and where she grew up. To see all those years worth of semi- good memories from before learning the truth, destroyed in mere moments in front of her eyes is heart breaking. Not to mention all the art she did is just gone.
I drew my class bullettin board for my teacher to say the color wasn't saturated enough so she got people tp get oil pastel to color over it anf cut it with scissors and 1 of my drawings became bug eyed! I was crying for days and they called me sensitive for destroying days of hard work i feel very salty people make fun of my art when they want to fight me which is weird because thats not even an insrcurity anymore
Fun fact: Some storyboard artists pitched a spin-off show for Varian called Varian and the seven kingdoms where he would go on a journey his mother died on with three other people and it was a really interesting concept, the executives loved it but thought it wouldnt do well because they thought the fandom didn't like Varian enough which is kind of stupid since he is literally the most beloved character in the series
It was also because Diseny wouldn't want to make a spinoff for a spin off....also, as far as I remember it wasn't meant to be a show but a comic only. (Don't quote me on it tho)
Told my 10 year old niece about it, she was upset disney didn't go through with it. She straight up said disney was wrong and that he is popular enough
I heard they were willing to do it if they made the main character not Varian. Disney didn't want a show connected to a Disney princess where they weren't the main character
Fun Fact! The art direction of the show was inspired by the paintings Rapunzel made in her tower within the movie. They said they wanted to feel as if this was a book that she herself would have made, telling her story after she escaped Gothel. And I just. I love that so much, it’s so good. This show is criminally underrated
The Captain not denying that Cas is adopted, is props to him. He's not gonna lie and state that he didn't adopt her. Just because she was adopted, that doesn't mean he's not her father. He's more of a parent than Gothel, that's for goddamn sure.
He was the best parent in the series. I feel like he deserves major props for being able to get past his rivalry with Eugene and be a kind understanding father to Cass. When he had regrets about how things went with Cass it was pretty moving. The blame didn't fall on him but he loved his daughter so much that he was broken that he wasn't able to help her. I thought that was more believable writing than how the King and Queen reacted to a lot of the events of the series.
I feel like tangled the series was underrated. More Disney princess shows are coming out now like Tiana’s bayou adventure and a Moana series are coming to Disney plus because tangled the series paved the way for them! I was so happy that Tangled was getting a series because I really wanted to see what happened next.
I love Ready as I'll Ever Be Too, it's my favorite and very underrated. When compared to other songs. The fact that Cassandra and Varian were voiced by Broadway stars and they sang for the show is amazing!
@@worldfuturestar it's less known than crossing the line and a lot of other songs. I just think it's a little underrated as people don't really acknowledge that the main singer in it is a Broadway star and has an amazing vocal range.
With Cassandra’s narrative, you also have to keep in mind she’s supposed to be Rapunzel’s best friend. But the moment they meet Adira, a suspicious stranger they choose to throw all their faith in her and don’t step in when Adira mocks Cass. All throughout season two leading up, Rapunzel shows a complete disregard for Cass’s thoughts and advice. She even has a whole song about how no matter how hard she tries, she’ll always be second best (Waiting in the Wings). Finding out Gothel is her mother isn’t the turning point for her villain arc, it’s just the straw that finally broke the camel’s back.
A lot of people miss this point so badly. Cass was always seen as second place from Rapunzel. Even in season 1 we can see that, from the game episode to Secrete of the Sundrop (she led the troops and in the end Rapunzel saves the day and gets the praise anyways). the fact even her own mother ditched her for Rapunzel (arguably for the wrong reasons) made it worse. It’s obvious her actions afterwards are evil, but it’s not like she was all happy until this happened. Also, considering how Cass reacted to Rapunzel talking about her mother in Rapunzel Day 1 and their conversation in Tale of Two Sisters, it’s pretty obvious Rapunzel didn’t tell Cass much about Gothel as a person.
Yeah, whether Rapunzel meant to hurt Cass or not, it doesn't matter. Intentions don't always matter. Cass was hurt by Rapunzel's actions and inactions. Rapunzel wasn't as good of a friend as she thought she was. And she learned nothing.
If Cass felt underrated being Rapunzel’s lady-in-wait, why didn’t she just spill it out and quit to find another job? When Rapunzel and Eugene tried to pry what Cass thought out of her heart, she simply refused. So how can they know how Cass felt? Her betrayal makes all the adventure they went through and all the conversations meaningless, with all her baloney of destiny and jealousy.
@@friefrank Rapunzel (almost) always disregards Cass' boundaries and feelings, almost as if she's wrong to have either of them in the first place. Rapunzel doesn't listen to Cass, the person Rapunzel keeps saying is her best friend. I mean, Rapunzel severely burns Cass' right hand and she only says this: "I'm sorry but I did the right thing" That's not a real apology, especially when you add in the word "but". When you do that, you're basically saying, "Forget the first part of my sentence, here's what I really mean." I don't ask "Why did Cass not talk to Rapunzel?" I ask "Why not?"
For the animation, the studio responsible is Mercury Filmworks, the same studio who animated Hilda, The Ghost and Molly Mcgee and more. Explains a lot why the animation is so good
I really hated when they turned Cassandra evil. I could see where they tried to build up how she felt - always overshadowed by Rapunzel in some way. There's a power dynamic in their relationship that Rapunzel doesn't understand. She's a princess who wasn't raised as a princess, but she's still considered a princess to all her people, including Cassandra. And when it seems like Rapunzel won't even listen to her anymore in favor of someone they literally just met, it was whiplash. Cassandra felt put in her place. When Cassandra is not only trying to keep her friend alive, but also do her job of protecting the princess, yet Rapunzel won't allow her to do any of that and basically pulls rank. It just sours their relationship. And I can understand how Cassandra might feel like finding out about her mother. She was robbed of any ability to even learn about her. So she takes out that anger out on Rapunzel and puts Gothel on a pedestal because she's no longer there to justify her actions. Rapunzel got to know Cassandra's mother. But Cassandra could only dream of what it might have been like to have a mother. I can see how that would make her act out. But it was just way too much to drop on everyone all at once. "I'm betraying you! Also Gothel had a child! I was the child! Gothel was my mother!! Also, I now have the moonstone. I hate you so much right now! Because Gothel was my mother!!!!! And now I'm not going to act like normal Cassandra anymore! BECAUSE GOTHE---" Like, calm down, girl. Geesh...
I just gotta say Cass’s motivation for turning on Rapunzel didn’t make much sense, but her being Gothel’s daughter was really well planned out. I’m actually surprised you did not pick up on it earlier. I just always kinda new that Cass was Gothel’s daughter since they look alike and I thought it was kinda suspicious the she was daughter of the head of the guard. I literally remember watching the first episode of the series and my Dad asked me if she was supposed to be Gothel daughter. I always expected that they were keeping it as a secret, but I never expected her to turn evil.
Cassandras motivation did make sense if you look back on waiting in the wings and just souly the way she was treated by others in the show and how she always felt outshine by Rapunzel all that anger all that built up when she finally found out that her own mother didn't love her it hurt her like crazy she acted out of anger trying to prove to everyone that she was more than they thought it was really good character arc and that very few can relate to her I know I do I just don't understand when people don't understand they have her character her arc all wrong
@@fanboyofanimation6097 I think if we would have gotten to see more of Cass’s emotions leading up to the switch + how she processed the Gothel thing it would have been a little better. Not that they didn’t show us anything, but I feel like waiting to reveal that she was Gothel’s daughter till after the switch held back the development they could have done in season two. I definitely think there is still a lot there in terms of character development!
@@fanboyofanimation6097 but she was mad at her best friend for being kidnapped? by an abusive narcissist?? if anything gothel choosing rapunzel IMPROVED cassandra’s life because she got to live with a good parent who loved her, meanwhile rapunzel was shunned from the world and emotionally abused
@@s.a.3746 That was Cassandra acting out of anger that was like her last straw for even tho yea it's true Cassandra didn't look at it that way PLUS she was also manipulated by zhan tiri
didn’t cassandra’s character design give her away? she looked EXACTLY like mother gothel with the same color scheme and curly salt and pepper hair. the moment i saw her i knew she had to be related to gothel if not an age reversed gothel herself. i can’t be alone in this?
NO LITERALLY. AS SOON AS SHE SHOWED UP ON SCREEN I WAS LIKE “is she related to mother gothel” like hmm… girl with black/gray curly hair. i wonder who the only other character with that is!” it was like supposed to be a huge “woah moment plot twist” but literally like everyone knew.
A character i didnt expect to love was eugene. He loves raps so much but also trusts her. Like he respects her decisions. He's not gonna go "im your bf therefore i should save you". This series made me love and ship them even more
I was a little bothered by how Eugene got shoved into a supporting role. I thought that Cassandra took priority over him way too much in the plot and also with Rapunzel's attention. Couldn't they have integrated Eugene a little better?
Can't wait to see Negative talk about the twist villain. That part always got me riled up, it just felt like it came out nowhere and was opposite to how the character was represented. Would've made more sense if the villain was under a spell and that's why they were acting actual insane and oblivious, but no, just actually oblivious and transformed into a different person because plot.
I actually had a theory that the Sundrop and Moondrop have effects on the emotions of people who 'bear' them. It would be the reason Rapunzel is so happy and upbeat despite Gothel being a terrible person who only cared about her hair, and Cassandra would have had her negative emotions ramped up. Grabbing the Moonstone in the first place? An impulse fueled by being afraid that more Moonstone power would send her back to that 'Dark Mode' state, which almost killed Cass the first time, and everything after that has to be taken under the lens of 'if anything could make her upset, the Moonstone would ratchet that way the hell up' so she'd thought about her Gothel-related grievances, but she didn't really take them seriously until the Moonstone was sitting in her chest. Rapunzel was fine because, well, she has literally had the Sundrop's influence on her for her entire life. Nobody would really notice any difference, assuming there was one. Acquired Poison Immunity, basically. Cassandra... didn't have anything like that. Zan Tiri manipulating her was more an issue of the Moonstone making it really easy. In theory, Lady Kaine could have done as good a job, it's just that ZT knew a lot more about the cast and the lore, so she knew which buttons to push. Heck, maybe the reason she doesn't bother showing herself until Cass takes the stone is because she knew that those tactics wouldn't work on Rapunzel, partially because Gothel used them on her for over a decade, and partially because one of her underlings tried that with magical assistance and it still didn't work.
It's like the writers only finally watched ATLA when they were almost done writing season 2, and thought "Oh dang, Zuko's such a good character, now we need a surprise villain who gets a rushed redemption arc next season !" Cx And then ND did the rushed redemption arc again with She-Ra, but without surprise villains this time XD I still love She-Ra, Catra, and Catradora tho, fite me if you must
There are two Tangled novels "Rapunzel and the Lost Lagoon" and "Rapunzel and the Vanishing Village" by Leila Howland that fit in season 2 aka Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. They're very well-written and feel like lost/unwritten episodes.
Lost Lagoon fits in season one, actually, it starts before Before Ever After and ends partway through season one. I'm yet to read Vanishing Village but they're wearing the season two outfits and... well that just makes sense. I think it would've been cool to get a third book based on the final series but there was basically no merch for the show by that point ;.;
I find one of the problems with Ally to Villains arcs is that the writing seems to want to make the new villain sympathetic, but also don't want to risk making the protagonist even slightly not admirable by giving the villain a legitimate grudge against them. So you end up getting misunderstandings and manipulation that make the villain's motivation look petulant and stupid without the writing treating it as such.
I like Rapunzel and Cass' conflict the way it is, but I also agree with you. I can't remember we ever got a scene of Rapunzel ever admitting she made a mistake and took responsibility for Cass' feelings (if not actions). Was there? 🤔
@@Megalomaniac_Trans_Lesbian While I still find Adora and Catra's arc a bit safe, since Adora's flaw is still that she's too self-sacrificing which is a real flaw but also not one that's unlikeable for the audience, I do think overall it's a better execution. Shadow Weaver's continued presence and her explicit enforcement of the Golden/Scapegoat Child dynamic better contextualises Adora and Catra's mindsets. I also like that the show does acknowledge that Adora's martyrdom syndrome leads her to be well intentionally controlling. I wish there was a bit more of moments like at the beginning where Adora excuses Shadow Weaver's treatment of Catra, I really love the tension that comes from that.
@@gota7738 Oh I know, I fully agree. The episodes where we see Shadow Weaver abusing them both were all a fast lane to big sad for me, and the moment Adora stopped blaming herself and full on DECKED Catra in the season 3 finale was incredibly cathartic. And I am in team "Catra's redemption arc is earned and Catradora isn't toxic" so, you know, I do really like what that show did with abuse, trauma, healing and support networks ^^ I also consider Catradora to be the best fictional lesbian couple atm, but I haven't seen The Owl House yet, so maybe I'll change my mind then, just like how I changed it from thinking that was Korrasami before watching SPOP
I'm really not a fan of Cassandra's villain arc for multiple reasons but I think the worst is what was touched on in the video about toxic friends. The idea of having patience and understanding for a friend even when you're fighting is nice and all but kids shows are always taking it to such an extreme that it comes across as justifying abuse because it comes from someone you care about which is a really bad message. I would've liked it more if Rapunzel at some point decided that she'd stop trying to 'save' Cass and instead take steps to protect herself and her kingdom, while offering Cass a place to come back to if she wanted. That's already something that would take a lot of forgiveness and emotional strength without sending a harmful message.
Rapunzel was essentially clinging on to a broken relationship One way or another,Cass didn't want to be in a platonic relationship with her anymore. Rapunzel should have just moved on.
"Is Rapunzel like a god" well actually yes, the origins of the fairy tale/folklore comes from various sun goddess myths. That aspect has been lost to most versions, like the Grimms, but it seems Disney decided to tap into the idea by giving her hair sun/healing powers in the original movie.
Ahh I work at Mercury Filmworks the Studio that did the Animation for Tangled the Series!! Athlough I didn’t personally work on this project it Makes my heart happy you enjoyed the animation so much 🥰 The Marketing portion was so upsetting because they were airing the series so late at night or during school hours when kids weren’t even watching 😢 Also fun fact the paper cut style is inspired by Rapunzels paintings and drawings from the movie, this is her telling us her story through her art ❤
The series was so good in a lot of areas but so bad in others. I loved the expanded cast and Kingdom residents. All of Rapunzel's new friends felt rounded and like the writers put a lot of heart into them. I especially loved Varian, Lance, Red and Angry, and Hookfoot. I loved Eugene becoming more mature and trying his best to prove himself as a reformed man and a good leader, I actually found myself liking him so much more than I did in the movie because he bettered himself. [[SPOILER WARNING]] But I hated the fact that they made Eugene the "Lost Prince" of another Kingdom (him being secretly royalty is absolutely pointless) and towards the end of the series he lost a purpose in the plot and was just there. I used to love Cass until the reveal of her being Gothel's biological daughter happened and they brushed aside her admirable traits just to force her into a villain role even though NONE of her actions make sense. She resents Rapunzel over her being kidnapped by Gothel as a baby. Rapunzel was stuck with an abusive woman while Cass had was adopted by the Captain of the Guard who went above and beyond as a doting parent (he was easily the best parent on the show). Rapunzel was raised by a monster who took every opportunity to lower her self-esteem, and Cass is JEALOUS of that? She was so great for the majority of the series but her heel-turn was so poorly done.
I think Cass’ motivations not making sense, is the point, she doesn’t know what she wants to do to what she’s doing. Her mind (which is already in a bad mental state) has been warped by Zhan Tiri and the moonstone, making her already existing strain and jealousy for Rapunzel warped too. I think that’s the way it’s meant to be interpreted although, it’s not very clear.
@@unicornpet2225 Umm... but we got the song "Crossing the Line" to literally explain the point of Cass's betrayal, happening after Gothel's revelation scene. Imagine if "Crossing the Line" was actually about Cass being jealous of Rapunzel that she was raised by her mother instead of her, instead of the ACTUAL point of the song we got, that would be the only time I would feel that Cass' betrayal writing would collapse on itself.
This was actually my reintroduction into Disney Animation. After Gravity Falls finished, I didn't have much to watch. So seeing how great this show was, I found my love for animation again. And soon, Ducktales, Owl House, and Amphibia. This show is definitely one of the best Disney shows I've seen growing up in High School
Tangled the Series is one of my favorite shows. I actually got my start here on UA-cam making TTS videos. I absolutely adored the first two seasons, but the third felt a bit rushed to me. My sweet baby Varian deserved so much more screen time in season three, and I felt like Cassandra’s storyline got wrapped up so abruptly. Still love it to death. Also the voice acting???? Jeremy Jordan? Eden Espinosa? James Monroe Igelhart? Broadway LEGENDS.
3:36 “papercraft style” is a PERFECT way to describe it, and it fits with the show being one big illustration in Rapunzel’s journal (as shown via the intro, and the s1 finale where Raps gets gifted the journal).
Hey how was the most underrated show, great story. Two complaints 1 Varrian needed more screen time in season 1 2 Cas being evil should have been shorter and a better reason
@@TeruteruBozusama ok yeah it was done better but their are so many other ways Cas could have been evil and it could have worked 1 just have her think she was saving Rapunzil
@@besthuman8964 mhm, for example have things break around them, Cas seemingly saving her, have background events that lead up to it, maybe so clear after a while that children will point at the screen and scream "she's not your friend! She wants to hurt you!" (and thus hopefully distance themselves from toxic "friends", seeing these things in shows for kids is empowering and acknowledging that they are right sometimes) and then the reveal that doesn't surprise all the characters but still hurt..! Then maybe she tries making amends, with her trauma Rapunzel doesn't believe her at first. But slowly and steadily showing that she's worthy of trust again so it feels earned. Rather than "why did you betray us?! Friends again! What?! Why did you betray us again! Besties! Why do you keep betraying us! Forgiven and if not for Disney we might have become more than friends, okay bye", like what?
@@TeruteruBozusama yeah, that also works. I wish Rapunzel actually held a grudge. Varien I can accept since he is a kid but Cas is about 23 so has no excuse and I can understand her feelings of being cast aside
@@besthuman8964 Yeah, if gothel tol her she has to protect rapunzel, rom hrself, becaus eshe will destroy herself, something something manipulative apaling to cass pride would be more in character, and then have her be corrupted and hav the saving her twisted into, something as attack and having to kep rapunzel away, becoming vry villinous acting, and corrupted. We saw sh disagreed a lot in aproach, seing that as nessesary in a bad state to "save" her, would be in character. And gothel just further oputting her in a bad place. And impacting her, that having to be talk, but not an obsession.
When I was 16 I had a year long hyperfixation with Tangled. I wrote fanfiction, listened to the songs everyday, watched the movie over and over, and therorised how it would end while waiting for season 3. This whole franchise means so much to me now. It got me into truly writing my stories which helped me with writing so much afterwards. The music means the world to me now and the movie is an absoute comfort. I'm so glad this show got as much love, attention, and money put into it. And I really enjoyed your video since it's been a while since I watched the show. It was a good recap and excellent run down of the show.
This is me!!! Loved it when it was going, and now I'm 17, it's 2024 and I've randomly got re-hyperfixated on it. It feels like 2019-2020 to me alllll over again😭 I miss this show sm
I admit, I'm partially excited because this might mean we're one step closer to a Negative Legend Sofia-verse video. Buckwild franchise and it's coming back for another round.
I've noticed Disney does a thing where the first season is about character development and relationships and a lot of "monster of the day" type plots, and then season 2 and on is *P L O T* Gravity falls, Owl House, and Amphibia all did this; and I feel like one of the shows that started this was Adventure time (although instead of hat just being the first season, it's the first 5 lol)
Elena of Avalor did this as well. S1 was a lot of world building and one-off episodes introducing characters and their places and then in S2, it had a more serialised story with breather episodes in between, while still developing the characters. Then S3 was a hot mess in the latter half. Everything up until Magic Within was great, but it kind of dropped off after that in my opinion.
As far as I know its because disney prefers monster of the week plots and tend to be INCREDIBLY heavy handed during all first seasons to focus on that kinda storytelling, they tend to give the team more control after s1. Obviously they get some story bits in s1, but they gave to still work under the restrictions more. So s1s are more what disney wants, and onward is far more what the teams want usually.
I'm sure someone has already mentioned this in the comments but I appreciated the little parallels between Gothel and Cass, like falling from the tower and the "You want me to be the bad guy, fine. Now I'm the bad guy" line
I know with this show I think they were planning a spin off with Varian, they had like a whole idea and some designs too. Definitely worth looking into was what missed out on. It was going to be called Varian and the Seven Kingdoms (I believe).
This show means a lot to me. It helped get me through high school, waking up at 7 am to watch TTS was one of the best parts of the week. I’m so glad to see somone covering this show
I absolutely loved the series in season 1, I stopped watching at season 2 because I got board but continued at season 3. I (and much of the fandom) don’t like season 3. I’m curious to see what Negative has to say about that season because I can imagine them really liking Cassandra early on.
Yeah, I felt the same way. Season 1 was great, season 2 was okay, season 3 was bad. Season 2 was fun and inventive but it felt a little like a road trip movie and there were certain times it just dragged (the island mini arc comes to mind). What's more is that it was kind of hard to get invested in some of the adventures and mini arcs when you know they're going to be moving on next episode and likely never mention this/ that place again. It kind of felt like it was padding out time. Then came the finale. It was a big change but I wasn't too surprised. (I think I was spoiled?) I was actually interested to see where that was going. But then they're like 'ah whatever lets just go home'. Not only did it feel anticlimatic, it was like, what was the point of that entire last season then? Then Varian was back, yay! But his arc was resolved super quickly. It felt like 98% of it happened off screen. He feels bad, he's a good guy now, the end. And then he was gone except for like 1 min cameos... not so yay. And what got my goat the most was how Rapunzel slowly turned into a Mary Sue as the episodes went by. In season 1, she had things to learn, she did things wrong, etc. Now, it's like, she's always in the right, she never does anything wrong, any argument isn't her fault, etc. She doesn't even get mad/upset with Cass betraying her. She just shoves it all down and we never see it. Doesn't even make her lash out like you would expect. Rapunzel's biggest Mary Sue moment that comes to mind especially is an episode in season 3 where it shows how Cass and Raps became friends. There was an episode very similar in season 1, actually. In it, she tries to become friends with someone, they don't want to, she gets exceedingly pushy and starts rolling over their boundries, they get more aggressive, she tries even harder, and in the end, the lesson is you can't be friends with everyone. Not everyone will like you, and that's okay. You gotta respect people's boundries and put your effort into people who want to be your friend. Nice! Now, this episode in season 3. In it, Rapunzel tries to become friends with Cass, she doesn't want to, Raps gets exceedingly pushy and starts rolling over her boundries, she get more aggressive, Raps tries even harder, and in the end, the lesson is Cass is being mean and should just let her walls down and Rapunzel in. HUH?!! What, we had to take back the 'people can not want to be friends with Rapunzel'? God forbid Rapunzel has people dislike her? Even worse Cass had to give up her golden ticket to get the life she wanted for someone who steamrolled over her boundries and disrespected her feelings. And this is a good thing?! Y'know what, I'm on Cass's side! She deserves to be mad! Ugh, and then the mid season finale. It starts with Cass storming in to issue her proclamation of war, and to prove she means business, she cuts the top of a tower of Rapunzel's fancy cake. Really, that's it? It's such a small thing, but Raps couldn't even lose a cake? No? That's too awful- she couldn't have to go without some cake? And then the cake is perfectly remade at the end- they didn't even have to make a new one! God forbid she had to have a smaller, less perfect cake. Again, it's such a petty thing, but it just sums up everything I feel about how the show will not force any kind of negative effect on Raps. She can't even lose a cake. And then their ultimate fight is a joke. Raps reads the scroll thing, becomes a god when it took Cass an entire half a season to figure out how to use her powers, and the fight is over in 5 seconds. Like wow. Way to kill any investment I had. Power scaling? What's that? It's like, I want to be on Cass's side. I want her to take down Raps. I don't like her either, and yet I can't, because Cass sucks. Why make someone a villain if they're just gonna be a terrible villain? On another note, Nothing Left to Lose just isn't that good of a song. After this episode, I was just so drained I quit watching.
I like season 3, but my only problem is that they dismissed Cass's betrayal. They were singing happy songs and having a great time. It really confused me, because I thought Rapunzel would get all sad and mopey. Season 2 was a little boring, but that didn't stop me from watching the series.
Also just popping on here as a theater kid to point out the absolute gods that the voice actors in this show are. Cass's VA Eden Espinosa and Varian's VA Jeremy Jordan are two of my favorite Broadway actors and the fact that they brought them on here was everything for me. Like, Mandy Moore is great, but Eden and Jeremy are a whole other level for me. Also their songs in the show are fire
I didnt feel like a show that was too deep, but it felt like it had such solid writting that it made normal cartoon lessons really good and stick with you. And the characters flowed, even if it was episodic, the episodes following a big event would be about the characters dealing with the emotional aftermath. The characters were really solid too, Rapunzel herself was more than just optimistic and stuff. A thing I really like is that she doesnt like lemonade, no real reason, she's just a person and doesnt love everything. Also such a healthy relationship between her an Eugine
I grew up watching The Little Mermaid series and now am considering to watch this Rapunzel series, curious how different they are since there's so many years in between both productions!
Yeah I grew up watching the little mermaid. They were one off episodes mostly. Tangled the series is an actual storyline you need to watch in order. It’s more entertaining in my opinion.
The Tangled series was notable for the array of Broadway stars featured in it, start in the Zachary Levi (Eugene) and Eden Espinosa (Cass). Disney stage alums include Jeremey Jordon (Varian) who stared in “Newsies” and James Monroe Englhart (Lance). And they brought back Donna Murphy to play Goethel. The songs were mostly written by Alan Menken, Glenn Slater and Kevin Kliesch. Cass’s song “Waiting in the Wings” won an Emmy and us essential to understanding her “villain” arc. Like a true musical, the songs in the series were character driven keys to making sense of the story progression.
Yesss one of my favourite shows! Great video! I do think Cass' arc was kinda foreshadowed in the illusion episode but it was too vague and made the reveal weird so I agree with the twist not being a twist... Also how could you not talk about Nothing Left To Lose?!?! The song? The animation there?! The 2D cutout TURNAROUND SHOTS?! NO 3D! ALL CUT OUT TOON BOOM ANIMATION! 😭😭😭 IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF SEASON 3!!! but ready as I'll ever be is a forever banger it's true. Btw Negative do you have a P.O. box? I have a few Tangled The Series stickers I made when s3 was airing that could use a loving home 👀
@@that_gurl4u sorry but that's untrue, it's 2D cut-out and animated in Toon Boom Harmony! although they have a sort of 2.5D option with depth to be able to create better camera movements, the characters in the show are all "puppets" and aren't 3D at all. there are people who worked really hard on making it look as good as possible with it's limitations. there was a big debate at the time specifically about Nothing Left To Lose because of that one SUPER impressive 360 shot but the person who animated it confirmed that like the rest of the show, it's ALL 2D cutouts!
44:27 This whole episode is about not leaving your friends behind, which was weird since Eugene in this scene replies with "Cassandra was the one that left you behind" and I agreed but then he changes his mind by the end. Its like, I agree with the episode lesson but Eugene is also right at the same time lol
It’s a bit weird because if Eugene really changed his mind in the end because of the time travel, the Tangled movie wouldn’t happen because he wouldn’t have abandoned the brothers and ended up in the tower lol
@@sofialozano4031 I watched this episode with my boyfriend today. If indeed Rapunzel changed the past, it should change everything. After all, Eugene wouldn't be so selfish or narcissistic. And his choices would be different, yes, he would still be a thief, but he might never find the tower. Anyway, something had to be different. I would actually rather that this "new past replaces the old past" arc not happen. And that instead, Rapunzel would just talk to Eugene about that day and he would realize that she was there and not the Brothers. As if in fact the past were immutable. But that's just my opinion of something that will never change.
That was my least favourite episode in the series because it made no sense for Eugene to change his opinion, it just created a weird time paradox as others have mentioned. Also, Eugene is also 100% right about Cass leaving Rapunzel behind. As much as I enjoyed all the other character development in the series, I feel like they really fell flat on Rapunzel and Cass's relationship. In the end it was just pretty toxic with no real resolution other than Cass finally leaving and searching for her own destiny outside the castle (which she could have done all along - yet she CHOSE to stay as Rapunzel's Lady in Waiting while still blaming Rapunzel for all her missed opportunities).
Sadly, the head righter of this show turned out to be a real duche. He went into a fan server specifically for fans of the show, and just went to town attacking them for liking Varien more than Cassandra. It ended up with Disney firing him.
I wasn't expecting the show to be as good as it was. I watched after being spoiled everywhere about Cass' betrayal but I still enjoyed it. I was actually surprised you didn't have that much of a problem with the way was executed. Personally I think Cass had actual good reasons to turn on Rapz without becoming a villain, like being fed up with her impulsiveness after her hand got hurt and considering Rapunzel to not be an adequate successor to the crown, and enacting a coup. Like sure, manipulated by Santiri but having a more solid reason than "I'm always second to you". Also not mentioned, but there's a reason Sonnenberg didn't work further with Disney after how well received this was. Not only he got salty with the fandom because they obsessed over Varian, he also seems to have behaved inappropriately with the show's staff. And well, he was recently announced to start working on "non woke content" for Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire. So, yeah...
i think cass did have reasons to turn in raps! my main issue with the betrayal is how they enforced the stupid “biological mom was gothel” reason more than any of the… well, good understandable reasons
also cass low key always view her as an opponent, personally i really dont think they are that good of a friend maybe its because of the personality different?
Cass never wanted to be Rapunzel's friend in the first place. Part of it was the power dynamic. Cass was the handmaiden to the princess,therefore Rapunzel was her boss and Cass was the employee,there was no equal footing between them in the first place. Plus, Rapunzel always imposed her opinions on Cass and publicly humiliated her more than once. Plus,her not giving Cass a real apology after burning her hand is beyond un-okay Chris Sonnenberg loved the idea of sisterhood but couldn't do that properly in the show. Rapunzel and Cass weren't sisters in the slightest. Cass was just forced along the ride and Rapunzel only cared about what she wanted, thinking everyone else wanted exactly what she wanted and anyone else who thought differently than her was wrong in her point of view
I disagree with the show not setting up Cass' betrayal but I wonder how they could have done it better. I think Waiting in the Wings and her new armour was very much pushing her in that direction. The armour is symbolic of Cass puting her 'walls up' and becoming emotionally distant from Rapunzel and the festering had started. Also wanted to mention that not only did they bring back the entire cast of the film the brought back the composer ALAN FREAKING MENKEN. He has scored a LOT of the Disney Renaissance. He was the composer for The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS! I actually haven’t watched all of the show but I really loved it! It definitely has its flaws but a lot of people have worded those flaws a lot better than I would in the comments so I’m just going to say I love your videos and I’m so glad your doing this show!
I adore Tangled: the series with all my heart. Also, my top three favorite songs are: #1: Nothing Left To Lose #2: Crossing the Line #3: Ready As I'll Ever Be
I was actually aware of that show before they made it since tangled was my favorite movie and someone in my family knew the character designer and a few of the animators on the team so i was allowed to get some doodles of rapunzel and cassandra! (I lost them while moving last year tho so im a bit sad)
Can we talk about all the amazing animatics that came from ready as I’ll ever be? Like this series left a huge mark with that one song and that’s insane!!!!
genuine thank you for making this video - seeing someone acknowledge TTS's mere existence, let alone how good it was, is so refreshing. also, when you said "rapunzel's not just a disney princess anymore, she's more than that", that meant so much. (also, on a lighter note, the recap was hilarious!)
About her getting her hair back, I think it works well. Like, she finally got freedom. But she also didn't. The hair is the reason she went through everything in the first movie. Cutting it off, gave her freedom. So for her to then get it back and lose that freedom and kind of start to go through gothel 2.0, I think proposes something interesting to look at throughout the series. Like, she isn't letting it stop her this time. She isn't going to just only do what her dad says. She is taking her life back even when it seemed like her life took one big step backwards. And she really gets control of her hair and coexisting with it despite it seeming like she'd never be able to get rid of it (as well as the threats that would come with it.)
Tangled the Series, For all of those who want to know what this is: Tangled the series is a Tv show that Aired a few years after Tangled the movie, this show is incredibly underrated right now but before mostly everyone was talking about it! It was the story that I think took place a few months/ a few weeks after the timeline of Tangled the movie, no it isn’t an alternative universe it’s cannon. So apparently Rapunzel’s magic hair grew back as it was before Eugene cut it, that’s why we see her normal hair. The story focuses on different things all leading to the same thing, Rapunzel and her friends getting character growth and down grades adventuring throughout the series. Now, I haven’t watched the whole show because I don’t have access to it but I do know some key parts( I won’t say because that’s spoilers!). That’s why I’m excited for this video! Thank goodness it’s on a Friday!!! Also Happy birthday 🎉 to the person who commented “It’s my Birthday the day this premiers! Best birthday gift ever!!” ^^😄
I am so glad that more people are talking about this show! The Tangled animated series is so darn underrated & had some amazing potential (and story & music)... if Disney marketed it a lot more/better. Unfortunately Disney did this A LOT in the mid 2010s to some of their underrated animated shows (did anyone remember that they made a Lion King midquel series? And that it was marketed for Disney Junior? And that it also got 3 seasons? I'd love to see more folks talk about that...).
A long time coming but tangled was such a great show there was so much potential and I am sure Mandy Moore had more song in her and would like to see more of the sun and moon stone ps wind in my hair will always be iconic
I loved getting to know the characters. Character development in a movie can be challenging, especially a kid's movie. Tangled the series gave the characters depth. The movie is more of a snapshot in time, there's growth. The downside is that a series can't last forever, there are only so many stories one can tell before the material coming out sounds absurd. Ending a series on a low note can damage a property. Disney stretched Rapunzel and Eugene's story as far as they could. I miss watching their adventures, sure, I can go back and watch the series over but Disney seems to always show the marriage as being the ending of a fairytale. Surely, there are adventures after marriage? Plus, we know that Raps and Eugene attended Elsa's coronation, how about some crossover misadventures?
Please check out the series, and if you liked it, especially Varian, I suggest looking into Varian and the 7 kingdoms, it was a proposed spinoff that disney shut down but theres always a chance. The premise was amazing and even if it does never get greenlit, theres a ton of awesome fan content for it!
I adore tangled. It’s my favorite movie. When they announced the tv show I was so excited. But…it wasn’t very good. Not bad either, and had some very nice things in it, but it lacked consistency. The music was fantastic. I enjoyed the art style outside of the character design changes. But the story and pacing of the story felt like a teenagers tangled fanfiction. The world building was a far cry from the source material. In the movie rapunzels power is an extremely rare and precious gift in a mundane world. In tangled the series you can’t walk five feet without finding a world altering magical macguffin or a magical monster or mermaid or magician. And rapunzels goth power was cringe. Randomly making Eugene royalty was pointless and had ZERO effect on the story. That felt very fanfiction-like. Cassandra’s motivations towards the end of the series made very little sense and were definitely not earned. And the finale/main villain was boring and flat. Villains who want to destroy everything for no reason are so tedious. And small nitpick, but I don’t like the vocal direction here. It’s like they forgot what rapunzel sounded like. She was already an adult in the movie, why did her voice drop several octaves as if she just hit puberty? I really enjoyed a lot of the first season. It showed me what I was curious about, which was how the newly free rapunzel adjusted to living in a society. Touching on ptsd. Seeing and learning tons of new things. That was interesting. But it was bogged down by an overly ambitious, corny plot that wasn’t true to the source material.
I'm almost certain Cassandra was written to be in love with Rapunzel but Disney wouldn't allow it. That's why she turns evil after Rapunzel proposes. And why her trigger word is "waiting". It's not just the whole thing with Gothel but the fact that she keeps waiting for Rapunzel to see Eugene as a crook like she sees him as. Listen to the song "This has to stop now" It's full of one sided romantic subtext. Like the fact that Rapunzel almost stops her but clearly doesn't say what she wanted her to say. Or even the line "And for us if we're over that's fine" When's the last time you said "We're over" to a friend? That phrasing is far more likely to come from a romantic relationship.
"Those who cannot conceive of friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a friend" - C.S Lewis
The woman who designed Cass admitted to designing her to be queer-coded, and the show runner was totally okay with queerbaiting the audience with how he wrote Cass because she’s supposedly his favorite. Of course since it’s already set up in canon that Rapunzel married Eugene, the most the show could do was only hint at the romantic feelings in a way only certain viewers could catch on.
I kind of hope that’s not the case because that does feel very queer baity and also stereotypey since that would make her seem like a home wrecker just because she’s a gay woman which feels kinda insensitive
i've rewatched this series so many times and no matter how many times i think about it, this series is better than the movie. the character development, the animation, the emotion, the songs, it's exquisite
To be fair to the decision of bringing Rapunzal’s hair back, they didn’t really use it like it used to be used. Healing spell never worked or worked rarely so spamming that in dire need wasn’t an option. The hair if restored to 100% power would’ve been an asspull, but then removing that one power makes it slightly okay.
This is prob one of my fav shows, it was so underrated and I am so so happy you're tackling it. Cassandra is probably one of the best characters written and that plot twist personally, feels amazing. Also I actually watched the entire season 1 just to get the context of "ready as i'll ever be" and just stayed on cause the show was really good I also hate how you take away Eugene also calling out the King. And if you reframe Rapunzel's "friendship" with Cass to romantic love, the whole "I have to forgive Cass no matter what." turns into very funny lesbian pinning.
Cassandra was my favourite character. I will fully admit her villain arc wasn’t perfect, but I thought season three and her lead up to the villain arc was the most entertaining (an unpopular opinion apparently).
Honestly, something refreshing about this series is that they have Rapunzel and Eugene be a generally healthy couple throughout it. They obviously have some conflict, but they're generally just supportive of each other. They don't drag out a "will they, won't they" or nonsensical relationship drama because they can't and we already know they end up happily married.
It’s also worth noting that in addition to the original voice cast they also had some actually really big broadway stars- Jeremy Jordan as Varian being one of the most prominent. I believe they also had Alan Menken on for the score and he’s also one of the most influential creators at Disney ever since he co-wrote the music for the Little Mermaid! They really had an amazing team
Just finished watching it a few days ago and now I’m sad I wanted to see more adventures. 😢 Rapunzel is actually highkey inspiring.✨I recommend watching the series because it’s so much deeper than you actually thought.❤
I'd love to hear your take on the music for this show and possibly rank them in the future! Tangled is my favorite Disney movie and seeing how much love and passion was put into the show made me love it even more!
8:37 actually prisons were sometimes under castles since they're heavily fortified and hard to escape from. And also bc usually the royal guard resides and works around the same place so it's like killing two birds with one stone
There's also a rejected spin-off called Varian And The Seven Kingdoms. Disney rejected it because they didn't think it could be successful without Rapunzel.. when the spin-off was on the show's most popular character. There's alot of fan made VAT7K stuff tho. And plus, now Varian has a boyfriend named Hugo(who may or may not just be Eugene but better) which is more then fine with me!
Before this video all I knew about the series was that the producer, Chris Sonnenburg, was in love with Cassandra and was mad that the fandom liked Varian much better. He even managed to get banned from the discord fans created for the series because of how anti-Varian he was.
54:23 Ready as I"ll ever be is LITERALLY the reason i've watched the show, and it was one of the best choices i could make. Adding more, it's sung by Varian, who became my favorite characters throughout the entire show (and i KNOW i'm not alone in this). I love this series, and now knowing Dana Terrace worked on it, as well as ND Stevenson, that makes SO much sense.
There are just some things in the series I would have done differently. Cass being Gothel's daughter? Eh. It's weird to think about. Did she have her just to have a little servant? How did that pregnancy go, with the constant age-changing? Cass embracing her dark heritage? No. Cass taking the moonstone? No. Eugene taking the moonstone? Maybe. Honestly I would have made Varian the prince of the dark kingdom because of that blue streak in his hair. Then he would take the stone. Ghost girl Zan Tiri? No, unless there was some foreshadowing or little hints beforehand in the background. A lot of the themes in the show just seemed muddled and confused to me.
While I agree that Cass turning evil seemed sudden I actually saw it coming from the tree. The way she looked at Rapunzel and spoke to her you could feel the wedge driven between them that only grew. Also, Varian had a much better villain transition that gave me chills and so in comparison, it felt a little lackluster. While I agree that Ready as I'll ever be is an amazing song and for sure my number 2. Nothing left to lose was such a gut punch of a moment that I always think about it when I remember the show. Though I am biased a bit with Let me make you proud as my third favorite. Varian's voice is just perfect for the songs he was given it has such great emotional weight. Also, can we talk about how Hookfoot just up and vanished between seasons 2 and 3? What happened there?
IVE B EEN WAITING FOR YOU TO MAKE A VIDEO ON TANGLED THE SERIES AYAYAYAYAY, i LOVE this show way too much (mainly bcuz varian is one of my fav characters and i love tangled sm) but im so happy you finally decided to make a video on it!!!
It was ironic that I was having a lore conversation with people in the comments on another video and I got the premiere notification for this and I squealed cuz I love this show lol
14:47 "I don't know why Disney would dump money into something and NOT market it" Raya and the Last Dragon and Strange World are probably wondering the same thing too right about now...
I really loved the Tangled series so much, I've watched it a bunch of times and listen to the soundtrack a lot! Only real criticisms I had were 1. Cass's betrayal and motivation for doing so were painfully stupid (but hey at least we got good songs out of it) and 2. I wish they'd done more with Varian. I genuinely thought he was gonna have some important significance with the moonstone (maybe be the person meant to have it's power like Rapunzel was meant to have the sundrop?) cause of the random blue stripe in his hair he apparently had even as a baby, the way he can't seem to help being so involved with the black rocks and them being particularly bad around where he lives, and then his dad actually being from the dark kingdom. Felt like they were foreshadowing something that didn't happen and I was kinda disappointed. But overall I absolutely adore the show! Wish they'd made that Varian spinoff that was pitched!
I don’t think Cass’s villain arc was necessarily stupid, but I think it happened too soon. They were kinda building it up the whole show. Even in season 1 Cass felt overshadowed by Rapunzel. In season 2, everyone kept making her feel inferior and following Adira instead and all that. Then finding out that Gothel is actually her mother…However, I think that she would have held out a little longer. She was clearly tired of everyone making her feel second to Rapunzel (even Rapunzel herself, although not intentionally) and her own mother leaving her for Raps adds to it. The thing the writers messed up imo is her reaction to that. She knew that Gothel was an awful person and clearly left Raps with a lot of trauma, so why would she be mad and Rapunzel for that? It wasn’t her choice! I think they should have waited until like the middle of season 3 to really finish building up Cass’s reasons for betraying everyone, then give us that icing on the cake moment that finally forces her to snap. All of season 2 I was just kind of waiting for something dramatic to happen that would push Cass further to the edge, and then she turned all evil and I was super confused as to why lol.
@@Slightly_Obsessive Eh, personally I don't even like the 'she felt second best' storyline either. Cass got mad about Rapunzel making her own decisions and not doing what she wanted, but Rapunzel is the future queen and Cass should be used to living in a monarchy by now. Maybe she just got a bit full of herself when Rapunzel was more inexperienced and needed a lot more help and guidance, but Raps always needed to be able to start taking charge and calling the shots. Idk, I just liked Cass's character in season one cause her jealousy felt more plausible and everything after that felt weirdly contrived.
@@arielxlazarus yeah I agree with that last sentence, I’m just not good at getting my point across lol. Cass’s villain arc could work they just didn’t execute it properly. Plus they made her character seem like a jerk. And a baby.
@@Slightly_Obsessive yeah they could've done a good villain arc, but they just needed better motivation and more time to establish it. Or maybe just show Zhan Tiri clearly affecting her mind or something? Mind control plots can be fun, and then her basically getting off scot free at the end would make more sense too, since she'd have also been a victim.
I remember watching the movie on Disney channel when it aired. I kept up with the series for the first half of the first season, but I didn't finish it till it was put on Disney plus. I think what shows how good the show was is that my entire family would sit and watch it during the pandemic. I honestly think my dad got into it the most. The characters and the story is interesting and theres so much to it. Its so good its a comfort show for me🤭
I saw some of this show on Disney Channel when I was by my grandmother's house one time and I absolutely loved it. I'm happy to see you found out about it and made a video about it.
fun fact, there was supposed to be a comic/series (i heard the continuation was one of those two) of Varian, which was never made sadly but we know the basic plot and people have made a lot of fanfictions and art of it which i'm happy about! :D (i'm gonna ramble for a bit and i may not be correct about everything so bare with me, and if you want, check it out for yourself, it's really cool) it follows Varian traveling the other kingdoms and it's called "Varian and the Seven Kingdoms" which followed Varian at eighteen with his pet raccoon, a donkey his dad gave him, and three new characters he we meet in the other kingdoms, with all of them trying to find the enchanted library to find Varian's mom, Ulla using her journal that Varian's dad gave him, all while another character, Donella, is trying to stop them as the group is trying to collect totems from each kingdom to unlock the library Varian first meets Yong in his journey at the fire kingdom (or whatever it's name was supposed to be) who was a young boy who reminds Varian of a younger version of him...also Yong has a strange fascination with fireworks and explosions and uses those as his primary tools, then, there's Hugo, who steals the totem from Yong and Varian at one of the trails which Varian is not very pleased about, and we find out that Donella is like a adoptive mom for Hugo, and she instructs Hugo to watch over Varian and stop him, so Hugo, after some convincing and giving back the totem to Varian and Yong, gets into the group, and then at another kingdom (the sky or something i think?) we meet Nuru, a princess of the kingdom, who is really into astrology and becomes the group's main navigator. (this isn't scratching the surface of the plot, later on we meet Varian's cousins, and also near the end, Ulla, Varian's mom, possesses him since she's been stuck in the enchanted library and needs Varian to get out, but that would kill Varian....also Hugo and Varian kiss and become a couple which i'm happy about cause start off distrusting each other and being antagonistic to one another and slowly they start to trust each other and oh my god i love them so much) you can find a lot of cool fanart and fanfictions and also, actual character sheets for the characters before Disney scrapped it and also this person named Daniella Keiko Eyer who made a bunch of songs for Vat7k and i highly recommend at least listening to "Closer" cause that song is amazing in my opinion anyway, sorry for the ramble, and if some of the things i mentioned aren't fully correct, i'm still trying to figure out everything by whatever i can find since it's not technically a real show/comic/whatever it was meant to be cause Disney rejected it since they wanted the creators to swap out Varian for someone else and they refused since they wanted to keep Varian. i highly recommend at least checking out some stuff about Vat7k since it's really cool and continues on the story of tangled the series and it's just really cool! :D
I like, ALMOST adore Cass' storyline. I feel like they ALMOST knocked it out of the park but never fully nailed down exactly what she's bitter about? And it's such a shame because i really do relate to a lot of her motives. She feels held back, she feels like every opportunity she won had to be bitterly fought for and finds herself best friends with a person who, from her perspective, pretty much had every advantage handed to her. It's implied that Cass had to wait years upon years just to be allowed to wield a sword even though she's clearly been qualified for a really long time. Of course Rapunzel is going to sound belittling when she has so little experience in the world compared to Cass and yet feels so comfortable in a role as leader she's been granted so quickly. Of course it's going to sting extra hard when she finds out her own mother even chose Rapunzel over her. Even if Rapunzel was also mistreated it still feels like something she stole from her. Abusive parents rarely feel 100% like a negative thing, of course she still felt like her mother cared for her. So yeah, it feels right for her, to me, to steal whatever destiny Rapunzel was working towards away from her. To cross a line and forge her own path without constantly asking permission from her mother or her adopted father or from royalty or whatever. I just think they fumbled forming a coherent motivation for her past that point. I HATED her ending, just fully being written out of the story, willingly taking a backseat to Rapunzel again. I think they should've yuri kissed.
personally, the biggest problem about TTS is that Rapunzel doesn't learn anything, her flaws aren't explored and every person she wronged goes far enough that they end up apologizing to her. She's rather selfish and by the time season two rolls around and she's told that she's part of a greater destiny she starts to disregard the people around her. You think she'd learn from Varian not to do that but time and time again she seems to barely care for her 'friends' outside of the surface immature level of friendship. In season Three when the nightmare rocks attack the town and give everyone their biggest fears, Rapunzel doesn't even notice how traumatic it might be for Varian to use the amber serum that trapped his father and when Varian tells her, Rapunzel gives him a blanket 'oh I feel the same way but you still have to save the town.' and no follow up to after that. In fact, Rapunzel before doesn't even know why Varian is so scared going as far as to tell him whatever the rocks show him isn't real, despite knowing all the terrible things that happened to Varian. This doesn't even go into the times she disregarded Cass's feelings and safety, heck she doesn't even want blame despite being the reason Cass burnt her hand, and instead of saying sorry to Cass, she wants Cass to apologize to her. What would that apology even look like? "I'm sorry that as your best friend and assigned bodyguard, I worried about your personal safety and tried to save you from a collapsing building while you were being possessed by magic that could potentially destroy the world and hurt myself saving your life?" At the end of the day, Rapunzel is a victim of abuse that as a result of being kept mentally childish and controlled, made her selfish, immature, hate control even when it's only her friends and family looking out for her, and disregards everyone around her for the sake of destiny. These are interesting flaws and I wished they explored them, instead of trying to justify rapunzel's behavior to make her the good guy. The good guy can have flaws and learn from their mistakes, you know how interesting it would be to have rapunzel recognize her own flaws and how her life under mother gothel affected her and grow from that. It could start after Varian went evil to give his arc more weight and show rapunzel start to learn from her own mistakes. TLDR Rapunzel doesn't need to be a perfect disney princess, she needs therapy
yeah, i love rapunzel so much but its so annoying how, because the writers dont want to show that their perfect disney princess actually has flaws, she just ends up looking like a giant douche
THANK YOU❤❤❤❤ This REALLY annoys me. Especially how she handled the situation with Cassandra. She tried to force Cassandra to talk about her feelings, but refused and refused to take them into consideration. It was only "YOU have to be okay with what I did", "I did the RIGHT thing", "You have to listen to ME!", "I'm the future queen, you have to be okay with MY decisions", etcetera. She could not even bother to say "I'm so sorry about your arm. I really should have listened to you.", or "Just because I won't always agree with you does not mean that I don't care", "It's my fault your arm hot permanently burned. I should have listened to you", "Just because we need Adira right now does not mean that I don't still trust you, you're still my bestie and unbiological big sister.", but instead she just completely ignored how Cassandra felt. Cassandra risked everything for Rapunzel and did everything in her power to keep her safe, but Raps completely ignored that. Raps even trusted Adira - a complete stranger - over Cassandra, her best friend, lady in waiting and body guard. When Eugene warned her about Cassandra, she really should have talked to Cassandra and apologized for real. Instead she took Cass for granted and completely ignored that she was a person in her own right with her own thoughts and feelings. Rapunzel became ignorant, shallow and even abused her powers as a princess.
@@CrystalGoddess90It was Cassandra’s fault that she burned her arm tbh, Raps told her to run with the others when she was doing the spell and Cassandra grabbed her causing her arm to get burned, so it makes sense why Raps would be angry or wouldn’t apologize since she did tell her to run, but I do agree about the not talking bit and not being direct
@@montserratmarroquin400 Cassandra's job and duty was to protect Rapunzel. She wasn't just her lady in waiting, she was a part of the royal guard and thereby also Rapunzel's body guard. Rapunzel shouldn't have chanted the evil song before Cassandra did anything.
@@CrystalGoddess90 Yea I do get it’s Cassandra’s job to protect Raps but the evil spell took the person and completely hipnotized them, and they were defeating the big bad guy so Raps told Cassandra to run and that she got this
I watched the video all the way through while doing homework, and I THOROUGHLY appreciated what you said at 54:22. Yes, ready as I'll ever be is like, the best song in the show, and I do like it.
I worked in the animation department on this show (you even showed some of my scenes! XD). I just want to say thanks for noticing how hard we went on the animation. It was not easy, let me tell ya ha ha.
In my country season three was dubbed but was never put on Disney+ (Amphibia and The owl house have the same case) and it saddens me because I'm a fan of those series and want to support them.
exactly exactly exactly, for both varian and cass there was ZERO build up for their change, cass especially. there was absolutely no reason for her to betray Rapunzel and continue to trust zahn zhan tiri again and again even after seeing her sabotage cass is just so unbelievable. I hate it but I like the show so I choose to believe it's just because zhan tiri is controlling her 😭
I love this TV show and Rapunzel is one of my favorite Disney Princesses of all time! 👸🏼🥰 BTW, Tangled the Series gets renamed as Rapunzel's Tangled Adventures. 📺🤓
I absolutely LOVED Tangled the Series when it was first airing! I always thought it would be super cool if they made a Mulan show, she’s my fave + you can’t tell me that saving the emperor was the only time she had to save China. Also. Li Shang, need I say more
Ready As I'll Ever Be is tied with Nothing Left to Lose as my favorite song tbh. The blend of Jeremy Jordan and Eden Espinosa's vocals is just...chef's kiss
Honestly, when we see Rapunzel's tower get destroyed, you can understand her pain because despite all that trauma and being manipulated her whole life, that was still her home and where she grew up. To see all those years worth of semi- good memories from before learning the truth, destroyed in mere moments in front of her eyes is heart breaking. Not to mention all the art she did is just gone.
Honestly
The art bit hurts a lot as a fellow artist I would’ve cried for days
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@@ACE-ns1ylSame... I had someone destroy my high school art, and it nearly broke me.
I drew my class bullettin board for my teacher to say the color wasn't saturated enough so she got people tp get oil pastel to color over it anf cut it with scissors and 1 of my drawings became bug eyed! I was crying for days and they called me sensitive for destroying days of hard work i feel very salty people make fun of my art when they want to fight me which is weird because thats not even an insrcurity anymore
Disney's Tangled the series and Netflix's Carmen Sandiego flew under the radar and both had interesting art styles and appeal to wider audiences
Gosh I love those two shows! One big reason why I watched them is because of their artsyle alone.
@@BuizelCream yeah, I loved Carmen Sandiego color palettes and atmospheres, there was so many screenshots that you could take that were so pleasing.
Man, I love Carmen Sandiego except for the ending, I wanted to have Red Crackle have closure
Carmen San Diego was really good
I have really watched TTS since it came out but ya cass not deserving redemption anymore is totally fair
Fun fact: Some storyboard artists pitched a spin-off show for Varian called Varian and the seven kingdoms where he would go on a journey his mother died on with three other people and it was a really interesting concept, the executives loved it but thought it wouldnt do well because they thought the fandom didn't like Varian enough which is kind of stupid since he is literally the most beloved character in the series
Forever gonna be upset about vat7k never being made 🥲 rip hugo, nuru, and yong
It was also because Diseny wouldn't want to make a spinoff for a spin off....also, as far as I remember it wasn't meant to be a show but a comic only. (Don't quote me on it tho)
Such a tragedy that Vat7k never happened. I love Varian, and I'd absolutely watch a show centered on him. The concept is so interesting!
Told my 10 year old niece about it, she was upset disney didn't go through with it. She straight up said disney was wrong and that he is popular enough
I heard they were willing to do it if they made the main character not Varian. Disney didn't want a show connected to a Disney princess where they weren't the main character
Fun Fact!
The art direction of the show was inspired by the paintings Rapunzel made in her tower within the movie. They said they wanted to feel as if this was a book that she herself would have made, telling her story after she escaped Gothel.
And I just. I love that so much, it’s so good. This show is criminally underrated
Beautiful! 👍
I always thought the art style looked like Rapunzel's paintings and loved that detail.
Omg! Thats why shes start making like a scrap book journal. I remember in the series she starting making one
love that, especially with the intro being her journal it makes sm sense
Esp when her mom gives her the book and we see her painting and drawing omggg even the opening I love this concept
I was an animator on this show and we really put our all into it. It was a big honour to work on this show
I enjoyed it…please come out with season 4
You and everyone else did a fantastic job.
I’m only on Season 2. But oh my goodness the Show’s Artstyle is amazing!
I love this show so much! You guys did an amazing job. PLEASE MAKE VARIAN AND THE SEVEN KINGDOMS A REAL THING
ok sure u did
The Captain not denying that Cas is adopted, is props to him. He's not gonna lie and state that he didn't adopt her. Just because she was adopted, that doesn't mean he's not her father. He's more of a parent than Gothel, that's for goddamn sure.
He was the best parent in the series. I feel like he deserves major props for being able to get past his rivalry with Eugene and be a kind understanding father to Cass. When he had regrets about how things went with Cass it was pretty moving. The blame didn't fall on him but he loved his daughter so much that he was broken that he wasn't able to help her. I thought that was more believable writing than how the King and Queen reacted to a lot of the events of the series.
@@Nightman221kno offence but he was nearly willing to forget about his real daughter for a fake one
@@_Sharky_13I mean, his daughter just turned into a villain and was going to destroy Corona, and the last time he saw her she attacked him soo
@@montserratmarroquin400 yes but he LITERALLY WAS ABANDONING HER COMPLETELY FOR A FAKE
I feel like tangled the series was underrated. More Disney princess shows are coming out now like Tiana’s bayou adventure and a Moana series are coming to Disney plus because tangled the series paved the way for them! I was so happy that Tangled was getting a series because I really wanted to see what happened next.
Isn't Tiana's Bayou adventure a ride 😭
@@melmeron7843 yes it is a ride
A moana series is coming?!
@@melmeron7843 yeah, the name of the show is just gonna be called “Tiana”
Yup! I would love to see more with that world as well maybe even a live action 👀👀
I love Ready as I'll Ever Be Too, it's my favorite and very underrated. When compared to other songs. The fact that Cassandra and Varian were voiced by Broadway stars and they sang for the show is amazing!
Crossing the line is so good too 😭
That song got so many fan adaptations....
underrated? gurl be real
Nah, more people know about ready as I'll ever be than the actual show, it's far from underrated.
@@worldfuturestar it's less known than crossing the line and a lot of other songs. I just think it's a little underrated as people don't really acknowledge that the main singer in it is a Broadway star and has an amazing vocal range.
With Cassandra’s narrative, you also have to keep in mind she’s supposed to be Rapunzel’s best friend. But the moment they meet Adira, a suspicious stranger they choose to throw all their faith in her and don’t step in when Adira mocks Cass. All throughout season two leading up, Rapunzel shows a complete disregard for Cass’s thoughts and advice. She even has a whole song about how no matter how hard she tries, she’ll always be second best (Waiting in the Wings). Finding out Gothel is her mother isn’t the turning point for her villain arc, it’s just the straw that finally broke the camel’s back.
A lot of people miss this point so badly. Cass was always seen as second place from Rapunzel. Even in season 1 we can see that, from the game episode to Secrete of the Sundrop (she led the troops and in the end Rapunzel saves the day and gets the praise anyways). the fact even her own mother ditched her for Rapunzel (arguably for the wrong reasons) made it worse. It’s obvious her actions afterwards are evil, but it’s not like she was all happy until this happened.
Also, considering how Cass reacted to Rapunzel talking about her mother in Rapunzel Day 1 and their conversation in Tale of Two Sisters, it’s pretty obvious Rapunzel didn’t tell Cass much about Gothel as a person.
Yeah, whether Rapunzel meant to hurt Cass or not, it doesn't matter.
Intentions don't always matter. Cass was hurt by Rapunzel's actions and inactions. Rapunzel wasn't as good of a friend as she thought she was. And she learned nothing.
If Cass felt underrated being Rapunzel’s lady-in-wait, why didn’t she just spill it out and quit to find another job? When Rapunzel and Eugene tried to pry what Cass thought out of her heart, she simply refused. So how can they know how Cass felt? Her betrayal makes all the adventure they went through and all the conversations meaningless, with all her baloney of destiny and jealousy.
@@friefrank Rapunzel (almost) always disregards Cass' boundaries and feelings, almost as if she's wrong to have either of them in the first place. Rapunzel doesn't listen to Cass, the person Rapunzel keeps saying is her best friend. I mean, Rapunzel severely burns Cass' right hand and she only says this: "I'm sorry but I did the right thing" That's not a real apology, especially when you add in the word "but". When you do that, you're basically saying, "Forget the first part of my sentence, here's what I really mean." I don't ask "Why did Cass not talk to Rapunzel?" I ask "Why not?"
Not the diehard cassandra fans attacking rapunzel.
For the animation, the studio responsible is Mercury Filmworks, the same studio who animated Hilda, The Ghost and Molly Mcgee and more. Explains a lot why the animation is so good
YOOO TWO OF MY FAV SHOWS WHATTTTT
HILDA?? DAMN NO WONDER
I really hated when they turned Cassandra evil. I could see where they tried to build up how she felt - always overshadowed by Rapunzel in some way. There's a power dynamic in their relationship that Rapunzel doesn't understand. She's a princess who wasn't raised as a princess, but she's still considered a princess to all her people, including Cassandra. And when it seems like Rapunzel won't even listen to her anymore in favor of someone they literally just met, it was whiplash. Cassandra felt put in her place. When Cassandra is not only trying to keep her friend alive, but also do her job of protecting the princess, yet Rapunzel won't allow her to do any of that and basically pulls rank. It just sours their relationship.
And I can understand how Cassandra might feel like finding out about her mother. She was robbed of any ability to even learn about her. So she takes out that anger out on Rapunzel and puts Gothel on a pedestal because she's no longer there to justify her actions. Rapunzel got to know Cassandra's mother. But Cassandra could only dream of what it might have been like to have a mother. I can see how that would make her act out.
But it was just way too much to drop on everyone all at once. "I'm betraying you! Also Gothel had a child! I was the child! Gothel was my mother!! Also, I now have the moonstone. I hate you so much right now! Because Gothel was my mother!!!!! And now I'm not going to act like normal Cassandra anymore! BECAUSE GOTHE---"
Like, calm down, girl. Geesh...
Come on, Cass. "My abusive mother choose you and now I'm stuck with the coolest, strongest, most respected dad!"
This comment section is gold. XD. Keep it going with the wierd, but wonderful in character voice overs, LOL!! XD.
I just gotta say Cass’s motivation for turning on Rapunzel didn’t make much sense, but her being Gothel’s daughter was really well planned out. I’m actually surprised you did not pick up on it earlier. I just always kinda new that Cass was Gothel’s daughter since they look alike and I thought it was kinda suspicious the she was daughter of the head of the guard. I literally remember watching the first episode of the series and my Dad asked me if she was supposed to be Gothel daughter. I always expected that they were keeping it as a secret, but I never expected her to turn evil.
I think Wotso had a video on the theory of Cass being gothel's daughter. I think that helped the theory become more popular.
Cassandras motivation did make sense if you look back on waiting in the wings and just souly the way she was treated by others in the show and how she always felt outshine by Rapunzel all that anger all that built up when she finally found out that her own mother didn't love her it hurt her like crazy she acted out of anger trying to prove to everyone that she was more than they thought it was really good character arc and that very few can relate to her I know I do I just don't understand when people don't understand they have her character her arc all wrong
@@fanboyofanimation6097 I think if we would have gotten to see more of Cass’s emotions leading up to the switch + how she processed the Gothel thing it would have been a little better. Not that they didn’t show us anything, but I feel like waiting to reveal that she was Gothel’s daughter till after the switch held back the development they could have done in season two. I definitely think there is still a lot there in terms of character development!
@@fanboyofanimation6097 but she was mad at her best friend for being kidnapped? by an abusive narcissist?? if anything gothel choosing rapunzel IMPROVED cassandra’s life because she got to live with a good parent who loved her, meanwhile rapunzel was shunned from the world and emotionally abused
@@s.a.3746 That was Cassandra acting out of anger that was like her last straw for even tho yea it's true Cassandra didn't look at it that way PLUS she was also manipulated by zhan tiri
didn’t cassandra’s character design give her away? she looked EXACTLY like mother gothel with the same color scheme and curly salt and pepper hair. the moment i saw her i knew she had to be related to gothel if not an age reversed gothel herself. i can’t be alone in this?
NO LITERALLY. AS SOON AS SHE SHOWED UP ON SCREEN I WAS LIKE “is she related to mother gothel” like hmm… girl with black/gray curly hair. i wonder who the only other character with that is!” it was like supposed to be a huge “woah moment plot twist” but literally like everyone knew.
Wow. I uh never even noticed it. I guess I was bit thick there. 😅
Same fr
I had suspected she might have been related somehow. And its nice knowing i was right.
Sameeee
A character i didnt expect to love was eugene. He loves raps so much but also trusts her. Like he respects her decisions. He's not gonna go "im your bf therefore i should save you". This series made me love and ship them even more
I was a little bothered by how Eugene got shoved into a supporting role. I thought that Cassandra took priority over him way too much in the plot and also with Rapunzel's attention. Couldn't they have integrated Eugene a little better?
Can't wait to see Negative talk about the twist villain. That part always got me riled up, it just felt like it came out nowhere and was opposite to how the character was represented. Would've made more sense if the villain was under a spell and that's why they were acting actual insane and oblivious, but no, just actually oblivious and transformed into a different person because plot.
You are so right, completely ruined the character for me, the season and the finale really took a nosedive
I actually had a theory that the Sundrop and Moondrop have effects on the emotions of people who 'bear' them. It would be the reason Rapunzel is so happy and upbeat despite Gothel being a terrible person who only cared about her hair, and Cassandra would have had her negative emotions ramped up. Grabbing the Moonstone in the first place? An impulse fueled by being afraid that more Moonstone power would send her back to that 'Dark Mode' state, which almost killed Cass the first time, and everything after that has to be taken under the lens of 'if anything could make her upset, the Moonstone would ratchet that way the hell up' so she'd thought about her Gothel-related grievances, but she didn't really take them seriously until the Moonstone was sitting in her chest.
Rapunzel was fine because, well, she has literally had the Sundrop's influence on her for her entire life. Nobody would really notice any difference, assuming there was one. Acquired Poison Immunity, basically. Cassandra... didn't have anything like that. Zan Tiri manipulating her was more an issue of the Moonstone making it really easy. In theory, Lady Kaine could have done as good a job, it's just that ZT knew a lot more about the cast and the lore, so she knew which buttons to push. Heck, maybe the reason she doesn't bother showing herself until Cass takes the stone is because she knew that those tactics wouldn't work on Rapunzel, partially because Gothel used them on her for over a decade, and partially because one of her underlings tried that with magical assistance and it still didn't work.
If you're talking about Cass she actually was under the influence of dark magic. So you actually are kinda right about that
@@estherhinds6314 i don't remember that being confirmed?
It's like the writers only finally watched ATLA when they were almost done writing season 2, and thought "Oh dang, Zuko's such a good character, now we need a surprise villain who gets a rushed redemption arc next season !" Cx
And then ND did the rushed redemption arc again with She-Ra, but without surprise villains this time XD
I still love She-Ra, Catra, and Catradora tho, fite me if you must
There are two Tangled novels "Rapunzel and the Lost Lagoon" and "Rapunzel and the Vanishing Village" by Leila Howland that fit in season 2 aka Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. They're very well-written and feel like lost/unwritten episodes.
Lost Lagoon fits in season one, actually, it starts before Before Ever After and ends partway through season one. I'm yet to read Vanishing Village but they're wearing the season two outfits and... well that just makes sense. I think it would've been cool to get a third book based on the final series but there was basically no merch for the show by that point ;.;
@@alexinitalics188 Ooh my mistake, you're right! And yes, I kept hoping we'd get a third novel but alas and alack.
I find one of the problems with Ally to Villains arcs is that the writing seems to want to make the new villain sympathetic, but also don't want to risk making the protagonist even slightly not admirable by giving the villain a legitimate grudge against them. So you end up getting misunderstandings and manipulation that make the villain's motivation look petulant and stupid without the writing treating it as such.
I like Rapunzel and Cass' conflict the way it is, but I also agree with you. I can't remember we ever got a scene of Rapunzel ever admitting she made a mistake and took responsibility for Cass' feelings (if not actions). Was there? 🤔
@@BuizelCream 😒 There never was
Don't worry, ND Stevenson wised up and made it the whole point of Catra's arc in She-Ra XD
@@Megalomaniac_Trans_Lesbian While I still find Adora and Catra's arc a bit safe, since Adora's flaw is still that she's too self-sacrificing which is a real flaw but also not one that's unlikeable for the audience, I do think overall it's a better execution.
Shadow Weaver's continued presence and her explicit enforcement of the Golden/Scapegoat Child dynamic better contextualises Adora and Catra's mindsets. I also like that the show does acknowledge that Adora's martyrdom syndrome leads her to be well intentionally controlling.
I wish there was a bit more of moments like at the beginning where Adora excuses Shadow Weaver's treatment of Catra, I really love the tension that comes from that.
@@gota7738 Oh I know, I fully agree. The episodes where we see Shadow Weaver abusing them both were all a fast lane to big sad for me, and the moment Adora stopped blaming herself and full on DECKED Catra in the season 3 finale was incredibly cathartic. And I am in team "Catra's redemption arc is earned and Catradora isn't toxic" so, you know, I do really like what that show did with abuse, trauma, healing and support networks ^^
I also consider Catradora to be the best fictional lesbian couple atm, but I haven't seen The Owl House yet, so maybe I'll change my mind then, just like how I changed it from thinking that was Korrasami before watching SPOP
I'm really not a fan of Cassandra's villain arc for multiple reasons but I think the worst is what was touched on in the video about toxic friends. The idea of having patience and understanding for a friend even when you're fighting is nice and all but kids shows are always taking it to such an extreme that it comes across as justifying abuse because it comes from someone you care about which is a really bad message. I would've liked it more if Rapunzel at some point decided that she'd stop trying to 'save' Cass and instead take steps to protect herself and her kingdom, while offering Cass a place to come back to if she wanted. That's already something that would take a lot of forgiveness and emotional strength without sending a harmful message.
to me cassandra and Lady caine are pretty much the ocean master and the black manta to the series as i see Tangled as disney take on Aquaman
Rapunzel was essentially clinging on to a broken relationship
One way or another,Cass didn't want to be in a platonic relationship with her anymore. Rapunzel should have just moved on.
If that happened we would've seen more battles between them , it would have been so spectacular.
I always took this as being a character flaw of Rapunzel’s
@@maryrose2945 The show distinctly didn't frame it that way and that exact mindset payed off in the climax.
"Is Rapunzel like a god" well actually yes, the origins of the fairy tale/folklore comes from various sun goddess myths. That aspect has been lost to most versions, like the Grimms, but it seems Disney decided to tap into the idea by giving her hair sun/healing powers in the original movie.
Ahh I work at Mercury Filmworks the Studio that did the Animation for Tangled the Series!! Athlough I didn’t personally work on this project it Makes my heart happy you enjoyed the animation so much 🥰 The Marketing portion was so upsetting because they were airing the series so late at night or during school hours when kids weren’t even watching 😢 Also fun fact the paper cut style is inspired by Rapunzels paintings and drawings from the movie, this is her telling us her story through her art ❤
The series was so good in a lot of areas but so bad in others. I loved the expanded cast and Kingdom residents. All of Rapunzel's new friends felt rounded and like the writers put a lot of heart into them. I especially loved Varian, Lance, Red and Angry, and Hookfoot. I loved Eugene becoming more mature and trying his best to prove himself as a reformed man and a good leader, I actually found myself liking him so much more than I did in the movie because he bettered himself. [[SPOILER WARNING]] But I hated the fact that they made Eugene the "Lost Prince" of another Kingdom (him being secretly royalty is absolutely pointless) and towards the end of the series he lost a purpose in the plot and was just there.
I used to love Cass until the reveal of her being Gothel's biological daughter happened and they brushed aside her admirable traits just to force her into a villain role even though NONE of her actions make sense. She resents Rapunzel over her being kidnapped by Gothel as a baby. Rapunzel was stuck with an abusive woman while Cass had was adopted by the Captain of the Guard who went above and beyond as a doting parent (he was easily the best parent on the show). Rapunzel was raised by a monster who took every opportunity to lower her self-esteem, and Cass is JEALOUS of that? She was so great for the majority of the series but her heel-turn was so poorly done.
I think Cass’ motivations not making sense, is the point, she doesn’t know what she wants to do to what she’s doing. Her mind (which is already in a bad mental state) has been warped by Zhan Tiri and the moonstone, making her already existing strain and jealousy for Rapunzel warped too. I think that’s the way it’s meant to be interpreted although, it’s not very clear.
I think the writes should have focused more on rapunzel out shining cass
than
Cass resenting rapunzel bc gothel abandoned her
@@unicornpet2225 I agree!
@@kendraroth1276 Absolutely!
@@unicornpet2225 Umm... but we got the song "Crossing the Line" to literally explain the point of Cass's betrayal, happening after Gothel's revelation scene.
Imagine if "Crossing the Line" was actually about Cass being jealous of Rapunzel that she was raised by her mother instead of her, instead of the ACTUAL point of the song we got, that would be the only time I would feel that Cass' betrayal writing would collapse on itself.
This was actually my reintroduction into Disney Animation. After Gravity Falls finished, I didn't have much to watch. So seeing how great this show was, I found my love for animation again. And soon, Ducktales, Owl House, and Amphibia. This show is definitely one of the best Disney shows I've seen growing up in High School
Tangled the Series is one of my favorite shows. I actually got my start here on UA-cam making TTS videos. I absolutely adored the first two seasons, but the third felt a bit rushed to me. My sweet baby Varian deserved so much more screen time in season three, and I felt like Cassandra’s storyline got wrapped up so abruptly. Still love it to death. Also the voice acting???? Jeremy Jordan? Eden Espinosa? James Monroe Igelhart? Broadway LEGENDS.
Yesss
i literally just checked out ur channel from this comment and went down a rabbit hole. you just gained a subscriber and i regret nothing
@@jupiter3557 oh my gosh thanks so much! 🥰🥰
Love you Kay 💕💕💕
@@RavenDash01 ly2 bb
3:36 “papercraft style” is a PERFECT way to describe it, and it fits with the show being one big illustration in Rapunzel’s journal (as shown via the intro, and the s1 finale where Raps gets gifted the journal).
Hey how was the most underrated show, great story.
Two complaints
1 Varrian needed more screen time in season 1
2 Cas being evil should have been shorter and a better reason
"my abusive parent loved you and not me" has been done so many times before..! It was done okay and better than some, but still...
@@TeruteruBozusama ok yeah it was done better but their are so many other ways Cas could have been evil and it could have worked
1 just have her think she was saving Rapunzil
@@besthuman8964 mhm, for example have things break around them, Cas seemingly saving her, have background events that lead up to it, maybe so clear after a while that children will point at the screen and scream "she's not your friend! She wants to hurt you!" (and thus hopefully distance themselves from toxic "friends", seeing these things in shows for kids is empowering and acknowledging that they are right sometimes) and then the reveal that doesn't surprise all the characters but still hurt..! Then maybe she tries making amends, with her trauma Rapunzel doesn't believe her at first. But slowly and steadily showing that she's worthy of trust again so it feels earned. Rather than "why did you betray us?! Friends again! What?! Why did you betray us again! Besties! Why do you keep betraying us! Forgiven and if not for Disney we might have become more than friends, okay bye", like what?
@@TeruteruBozusama yeah, that also works. I wish Rapunzel actually held a grudge. Varien I can accept since he is a kid but Cas is about 23 so has no excuse and I can understand her feelings of being cast aside
@@besthuman8964 Yeah, if gothel tol her she has to protect rapunzel, rom hrself, becaus eshe will destroy herself, something something manipulative apaling to cass pride would be more in character, and then have her be corrupted and hav the saving her twisted into, something as attack and having to kep rapunzel away, becoming vry villinous acting, and corrupted.
We saw sh disagreed a lot in aproach, seing that as nessesary in a bad state to "save" her, would be in character. And gothel just further oputting her in a bad place. And impacting her, that having to be talk, but not an obsession.
When I was 16 I had a year long hyperfixation with Tangled. I wrote fanfiction, listened to the songs everyday, watched the movie over and over, and therorised how it would end while waiting for season 3. This whole franchise means so much to me now. It got me into truly writing my stories which helped me with writing so much afterwards. The music means the world to me now and the movie is an absoute comfort. I'm so glad this show got as much love, attention, and money put into it. And I really enjoyed your video since it's been a while since I watched the show. It was a good recap and excellent run down of the show.
This is me!!! Loved it when it was going, and now I'm 17, it's 2024 and I've randomly got re-hyperfixated on it. It feels like 2019-2020 to me alllll over again😭 I miss this show sm
I admit, I'm partially excited because this might mean we're one step closer to a Negative Legend Sofia-verse video.
Buckwild franchise and it's coming back for another round.
I would LOVE that!! Sofia AND Elena of Avalor, please!
I NEED THAT VIDEO! I love Both Sofia The First and Elena Of Avalor, and I practically grew up with the former!
Man I've been obsessed with Sofia the First lately I'd love for this to happen 😭
Yessss!
My mom passed away in 2014 and Tangled was a movie that me and her watched together a lot when it came on TV, and it always reminds me of her
I've noticed Disney does a thing where the first season is about character development and relationships and a lot of "monster of the day" type plots, and then season 2 and on is *P L O T*
Gravity falls, Owl House, and Amphibia all did this; and I feel like one of the shows that started this was Adventure time (although instead of hat just being the first season, it's the first 5 lol)
Elena of Avalor did this as well. S1 was a lot of world building and one-off episodes introducing characters and their places and then in S2, it had a more serialised story with breather episodes in between, while still developing the characters. Then S3 was a hot mess in the latter half. Everything up until Magic Within was great, but it kind of dropped off after that in my opinion.
As far as I know its because disney prefers monster of the week plots and tend to be INCREDIBLY heavy handed during all first seasons to focus on that kinda storytelling, they tend to give the team more control after s1.
Obviously they get some story bits in s1, but they gave to still work under the restrictions more.
So s1s are more what disney wants, and onward is far more what the teams want usually.
They're probably testing the waters with the first season, then once funding comes in they feel secure enough to move the story along.
I'm sure someone has already mentioned this in the comments but I appreciated the little parallels between Gothel and Cass, like falling from the tower and the "You want me to be the bad guy, fine. Now I'm the bad guy" line
I know with this show I think they were planning a spin off with Varian, they had like a whole idea and some designs too. Definitely worth looking into was what missed out on. It was going to be called Varian and the Seven Kingdoms (I believe).
This show means a lot to me. It helped get me through high school, waking up at 7 am to watch TTS was one of the best parts of the week. I’m so glad to see somone covering this show
I absolutely loved the series in season 1, I stopped watching at season 2 because I got board but continued at season 3. I (and much of the fandom) don’t like season 3. I’m curious to see what Negative has to say about that season because I can imagine them really liking Cassandra early on.
I like season 3
Yeah, I felt the same way. Season 1 was great, season 2 was okay, season 3 was bad. Season 2 was fun and inventive but it felt a little like a road trip movie and there were certain times it just dragged (the island mini arc comes to mind). What's more is that it was kind of hard to get invested in some of the adventures and mini arcs when you know they're going to be moving on next episode and likely never mention this/ that place again. It kind of felt like it was padding out time. Then came the finale. It was a big change but I wasn't too surprised. (I think I was spoiled?) I was actually interested to see where that was going. But then they're like 'ah whatever lets just go home'. Not only did it feel anticlimatic, it was like, what was the point of that entire last season then? Then Varian was back, yay! But his arc was resolved super quickly. It felt like 98% of it happened off screen. He feels bad, he's a good guy now, the end. And then he was gone except for like 1 min cameos... not so yay.
And what got my goat the most was how Rapunzel slowly turned into a Mary Sue as the episodes went by. In season 1, she had things to learn, she did things wrong, etc. Now, it's like, she's always in the right, she never does anything wrong, any argument isn't her fault, etc. She doesn't even get mad/upset with Cass betraying her. She just shoves it all down and we never see it. Doesn't even make her lash out like you would expect. Rapunzel's biggest Mary Sue moment that comes to mind especially is an episode in season 3 where it shows how Cass and Raps became friends. There was an episode very similar in season 1, actually. In it, she tries to become friends with someone, they don't want to, she gets exceedingly pushy and starts rolling over their boundries, they get more aggressive, she tries even harder, and in the end, the lesson is you can't be friends with everyone. Not everyone will like you, and that's okay. You gotta respect people's boundries and put your effort into people who want to be your friend. Nice! Now, this episode in season 3. In it, Rapunzel tries to become friends with Cass, she doesn't want to, Raps gets exceedingly pushy and starts rolling over her boundries, she get more aggressive, Raps tries even harder, and in the end, the lesson is Cass is being mean and should just let her walls down and Rapunzel in. HUH?!! What, we had to take back the 'people can not want to be friends with Rapunzel'? God forbid Rapunzel has people dislike her? Even worse Cass had to give up her golden ticket to get the life she wanted for someone who steamrolled over her boundries and disrespected her feelings. And this is a good thing?! Y'know what, I'm on Cass's side! She deserves to be mad! Ugh, and then the mid season finale. It starts with Cass storming in to issue her proclamation of war, and to prove she means business, she cuts the top of a tower of Rapunzel's fancy cake. Really, that's it? It's such a small thing, but Raps couldn't even lose a cake? No? That's too awful- she couldn't have to go without some cake? And then the cake is perfectly remade at the end- they didn't even have to make a new one! God forbid she had to have a smaller, less perfect cake. Again, it's such a petty thing, but it just sums up everything I feel about how the show will not force any kind of negative effect on Raps. She can't even lose a cake.
And then their ultimate fight is a joke. Raps reads the scroll thing, becomes a god when it took Cass an entire half a season to figure out how to use her powers, and the fight is over in 5 seconds. Like wow. Way to kill any investment I had. Power scaling? What's that? It's like, I want to be on Cass's side. I want her to take down Raps. I don't like her either, and yet I can't, because Cass sucks. Why make someone a villain if they're just gonna be a terrible villain? On another note, Nothing Left to Lose just isn't that good of a song. After this episode, I was just so drained I quit watching.
i'm gonna b honest and say that i watched season 3 only for cassandra and varian lol
@@annghost I watched season 3 for the hope of Rapunzel and Cassandra becoming friends again after the betrayal.
I like season 3, but my only problem is that they dismissed Cass's betrayal. They were singing happy songs and having a great time. It really confused me, because I thought Rapunzel would get all sad and mopey. Season 2 was a little boring, but that didn't stop me from watching the series.
Also just popping on here as a theater kid to point out the absolute gods that the voice actors in this show are. Cass's VA Eden Espinosa and Varian's VA Jeremy Jordan are two of my favorite Broadway actors and the fact that they brought them on here was everything for me. Like, Mandy Moore is great, but Eden and Jeremy are a whole other level for me. Also their songs in the show are fire
I love Nothing Left to Lose so much, top tier duet
I didnt feel like a show that was too deep, but it felt like it had such solid writting that it made normal cartoon lessons really good and stick with you. And the characters flowed, even if it was episodic, the episodes following a big event would be about the characters dealing with the emotional aftermath. The characters were really solid too, Rapunzel herself was more than just optimistic and stuff. A thing I really like is that she doesnt like lemonade, no real reason, she's just a person and doesnt love everything. Also such a healthy relationship between her an Eugine
I will never forgive Disney for no giving us the Varian Spin-Off series! My cinnamon roll deserved his own show!
Apparently there were story board leaks
@caitlyncarvalho7637okay?
I grew up watching The Little Mermaid series and now am considering to watch this Rapunzel series, curious how different they are since there's so many years in between both productions!
Sad thing Little Mermaid came in a time cartoons barely had any story arcs
Yeah I grew up watching the little mermaid. They were one off episodes mostly.
Tangled the series is an actual storyline you need to watch in order. It’s more entertaining in my opinion.
The Tangled series was notable for the array of Broadway stars featured in it, start in the Zachary Levi (Eugene) and Eden Espinosa (Cass). Disney stage alums include Jeremey Jordon (Varian) who stared in “Newsies” and James Monroe Englhart (Lance). And they brought back Donna Murphy to play Goethel. The songs were mostly written by Alan Menken, Glenn Slater and Kevin Kliesch. Cass’s song “Waiting in the Wings” won an Emmy and us essential to understanding her “villain” arc. Like a true musical, the songs in the series were character driven keys to making sense of the story progression.
Yesss one of my favourite shows! Great video! I do think Cass' arc was kinda foreshadowed in the illusion episode but it was too vague and made the reveal weird so I agree with the twist not being a twist... Also how could you not talk about Nothing Left To Lose?!?! The song? The animation there?! The 2D cutout TURNAROUND SHOTS?! NO 3D! ALL CUT OUT TOON BOOM ANIMATION! 😭😭😭 IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF SEASON 3!!! but ready as I'll ever be is a forever banger it's true.
Btw Negative do you have a P.O. box? I have a few Tangled The Series stickers I made when s3 was airing that could use a loving home 👀
technically it's 3D stylized to be 2D (just like Arcane). It's mostly visible in Tangled Before Ever After but in Tangled The Series is visible too.
Preeeach!! My favorite song!
@@that_gurl4u sorry but that's untrue, it's 2D cut-out and animated in Toon Boom Harmony! although they have a sort of 2.5D option with depth to be able to create better camera movements, the characters in the show are all "puppets" and aren't 3D at all. there are people who worked really hard on making it look as good as possible with it's limitations. there was a big debate at the time specifically about Nothing Left To Lose because of that one SUPER impressive 360 shot but the person who animated it confirmed that like the rest of the show, it's ALL 2D cutouts!
44:27 This whole episode is about not leaving your friends behind, which was weird since Eugene in this scene replies with "Cassandra was the one that left you behind" and I agreed but then he changes his mind by the end. Its like, I agree with the episode lesson but Eugene is also right at the same time lol
It’s a bit weird because if Eugene really changed his mind in the end because of the time travel, the Tangled movie wouldn’t happen because he wouldn’t have abandoned the brothers and ended up in the tower lol
@@sofialozano4031 oh frick you're right.. oh wow
@@sofialozano4031 I watched this episode with my boyfriend today. If indeed Rapunzel changed the past, it should change everything. After all, Eugene wouldn't be so selfish or narcissistic. And his choices would be different, yes, he would still be a thief, but he might never find the tower. Anyway, something had to be different.
I would actually rather that this "new past replaces the old past" arc not happen. And that instead, Rapunzel would just talk to Eugene about that day and he would realize that she was there and not the Brothers. As if in fact the past were immutable.
But that's just my opinion of something that will never change.
@@cosplaysbygus it would’ve worked better if the past was about LANCE learning the lesson and then in the present Lance teaches it to Eugene.
That was my least favourite episode in the series because it made no sense for Eugene to change his opinion, it just created a weird time paradox as others have mentioned. Also, Eugene is also 100% right about Cass leaving Rapunzel behind. As much as I enjoyed all the other character development in the series, I feel like they really fell flat on Rapunzel and Cass's relationship. In the end it was just pretty toxic with no real resolution other than Cass finally leaving and searching for her own destiny outside the castle (which she could have done all along - yet she CHOSE to stay as Rapunzel's Lady in Waiting while still blaming Rapunzel for all her missed opportunities).
I remember this show, I watched it every single day for awhile. It was such a comfort to me. Glad to see people acknowledging it
Sadly, the head righter of this show turned out to be a real duche. He went into a fan server specifically for fans of the show, and just went to town attacking them for liking Varien more than Cassandra. It ended up with Disney firing him.
jesus christ i knew he didnt like varian but damn. varian solos.
Literally the only reason I know anything about/got into this show in the first place is because of Varian
writer* douche*
I wasn't expecting the show to be as good as it was. I watched after being spoiled everywhere about Cass' betrayal but I still enjoyed it. I was actually surprised you didn't have that much of a problem with the way was executed. Personally I think Cass had actual good reasons to turn on Rapz without becoming a villain, like being fed up with her impulsiveness after her hand got hurt and considering Rapunzel to not be an adequate successor to the crown, and enacting a coup. Like sure, manipulated by Santiri but having a more solid reason than "I'm always second to you".
Also not mentioned, but there's a reason Sonnenberg didn't work further with Disney after how well received this was. Not only he got salty with the fandom because they obsessed over Varian, he also seems to have behaved inappropriately with the show's staff. And well, he was recently announced to start working on "non woke content" for Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire. So, yeah...
Oh dear....
Oh my ....
i think cass did have reasons to turn in raps! my main issue with the betrayal is how they enforced the stupid “biological mom was gothel” reason more than any of the… well, good understandable reasons
also cass low key always view her as an opponent, personally i really dont think they are that good of a friend maybe its because of the personality different?
Cass never wanted to be Rapunzel's friend in the first place. Part of it was the power dynamic. Cass was the handmaiden to the princess,therefore Rapunzel was her boss and Cass was the employee,there was no equal footing between them in the first place. Plus, Rapunzel always imposed her opinions on Cass and publicly humiliated her more than once. Plus,her not giving Cass a real apology after burning her hand is beyond un-okay
Chris Sonnenberg loved the idea of sisterhood but couldn't do that properly in the show. Rapunzel and Cass weren't sisters in the slightest. Cass was just forced along the ride and Rapunzel only cared about what she wanted, thinking everyone else wanted exactly what she wanted and anyone else who thought differently than her was wrong in her point of view
"I don't know why Disney would dump money into something and not market it"
Yeah that seems to be a recent trend of theirs
The show is so good and I am so happy with this video. Great job Neg!
It is!
Bros here from the future
Damn, dude got that fast pass.
I disagree with the show not setting up Cass' betrayal but I wonder how they could have done it better. I think Waiting in the Wings and her new armour was very much pushing her in that direction. The armour is symbolic of Cass puting her 'walls up' and becoming emotionally distant from Rapunzel and the festering had started. Also wanted to mention that not only did they bring back the entire cast of the film the brought back the composer ALAN FREAKING MENKEN. He has scored a LOT of the Disney Renaissance. He was the composer for The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS! I actually haven’t watched all of the show but I really loved it! It definitely has its flaws but a lot of people have worded those flaws a lot better than I would in the comments so I’m just going to say I love your videos and I’m so glad your doing this show!
I adore Tangled: the series with all my heart.
Also, my top three favorite songs are:
#1: Nothing Left To Lose
#2: Crossing the Line
#3: Ready As I'll Ever Be
Crossing the line is good 😭👍
My top 3
1. Ready as I’ll ever be
2. Let me make you proud
3. Next stop anywhere
Also set yourself free
1 : Crossing the line
2 : Nothing left to lose
3 : through it all
I was actually aware of that show before they made it since tangled was my favorite movie and someone in my family knew the character designer and a few of the animators on the team so i was allowed to get some doodles of rapunzel and cassandra! (I lost them while moving last year tho so im a bit sad)
That’s so cool omg!!!!! Sucks that u lost them tho
@@eccentric_creampuff4983 yeah :( it was my little flex to my classmates back then!
Can we talk about all the amazing animatics that came from ready as I’ll ever be? Like this series left a huge mark with that one song and that’s insane!!!!
Animatics are actually how I found this series!
if you liked the character of varian it's really fun to look into the lore of varian and the seven kingdoms
genuine thank you for making this video - seeing someone acknowledge TTS's mere existence, let alone how good it was, is so refreshing. also, when you said "rapunzel's not just a disney princess anymore, she's more than that", that meant so much. (also, on a lighter note, the recap was hilarious!)
I love this show omg! Glad to see someone talking about it too!! It's so good, so cute, and utterly endearing
About her getting her hair back, I think it works well. Like, she finally got freedom. But she also didn't. The hair is the reason she went through everything in the first movie. Cutting it off, gave her freedom. So for her to then get it back and lose that freedom and kind of start to go through gothel 2.0, I think proposes something interesting to look at throughout the series. Like, she isn't letting it stop her this time. She isn't going to just only do what her dad says. She is taking her life back even when it seemed like her life took one big step backwards. And she really gets control of her hair and coexisting with it despite it seeming like she'd never be able to get rid of it (as well as the threats that would come with it.)
Tangled the Series, For all of those who want to know what this is:
Tangled the series is a Tv show that Aired a few years after Tangled the movie, this show is incredibly underrated right now but before mostly everyone was talking about it! It was the story that I think took place a few months/ a few weeks after the timeline of Tangled the movie, no it isn’t an alternative universe it’s cannon. So apparently Rapunzel’s magic hair grew back as it was before Eugene cut it, that’s why we see her normal hair. The story focuses on different things all leading to the same thing, Rapunzel and her friends getting character growth and down grades adventuring throughout the series. Now, I haven’t watched the whole show because I don’t have access to it but I do know some key parts( I won’t say because that’s spoilers!). That’s why I’m excited for this video! Thank goodness it’s on a Friday!!! Also Happy birthday 🎉 to the person who commented “It’s my Birthday the day this premiers! Best birthday gift ever!!”
^^😄
I am so glad that more people are talking about this show! The Tangled animated series is so darn underrated & had some amazing potential (and story & music)... if Disney marketed it a lot more/better.
Unfortunately Disney did this A LOT in the mid 2010s to some of their underrated animated shows (did anyone remember that they made a Lion King midquel series? And that it was marketed for Disney Junior? And that it also got 3 seasons? I'd love to see more folks talk about that...).
A long time coming but tangled was such a great show there was so much potential and I am sure Mandy Moore had more song in her and would like to see more of the sun and moon stone ps wind in my hair will always be iconic
I loved getting to know the characters. Character development in a movie can be challenging, especially a kid's movie. Tangled the series gave the characters depth. The movie is more of a snapshot in time, there's growth. The downside is that a series can't last forever, there are only so many stories one can tell before the material coming out sounds absurd. Ending a series on a low note can damage a property. Disney stretched Rapunzel and Eugene's story as far as they could. I miss watching their adventures, sure, I can go back and watch the series over but Disney seems to always show the marriage as being the ending of a fairytale. Surely, there are adventures after marriage? Plus, we know that Raps and Eugene attended Elsa's coronation, how about some crossover misadventures?
Please check out the series, and if you liked it, especially Varian, I suggest looking into Varian and the 7 kingdoms, it was a proposed spinoff that disney shut down but theres always a chance. The premise was amazing and even if it does never get greenlit, theres a ton of awesome fan content for it!
I adore tangled. It’s my favorite movie. When they announced the tv show I was so excited. But…it wasn’t very good. Not bad either, and had some very nice things in it, but it lacked consistency. The music was fantastic. I enjoyed the art style outside of the character design changes. But the story and pacing of the story felt like a teenagers tangled fanfiction. The world building was a far cry from the source material. In the movie rapunzels power is an extremely rare and precious gift in a mundane world. In tangled the series you can’t walk five feet without finding a world altering magical macguffin or a magical monster or mermaid or magician. And rapunzels goth power was cringe. Randomly making Eugene royalty was pointless and had ZERO effect on the story. That felt very fanfiction-like. Cassandra’s motivations towards the end of the series made very little sense and were definitely not earned. And the finale/main villain was boring and flat. Villains who want to destroy everything for no reason are so tedious. And small nitpick, but I don’t like the vocal direction here. It’s like they forgot what rapunzel sounded like. She was already an adult in the movie, why did her voice drop several octaves as if she just hit puberty?
I really enjoyed a lot of the first season. It showed me what I was curious about, which was how the newly free rapunzel adjusted to living in a society. Touching on ptsd. Seeing and learning tons of new things. That was interesting. But it was bogged down by an overly ambitious, corny plot that wasn’t true to the source material.
I'm almost certain Cassandra was written to be in love with Rapunzel but Disney wouldn't allow it.
That's why she turns evil after Rapunzel proposes.
And why her trigger word is "waiting".
It's not just the whole thing with Gothel but the fact that she keeps waiting for Rapunzel to see Eugene as a crook like she sees him as.
Listen to the song "This has to stop now"
It's full of one sided romantic subtext.
Like the fact that Rapunzel almost stops her but clearly doesn't say what she wanted her to say.
Or even the line "And for us if we're over that's fine"
When's the last time you said "We're over" to a friend?
That phrasing is far more likely to come from a romantic relationship.
"Those who cannot conceive of friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a friend" - C.S Lewis
The woman who designed Cass admitted to designing her to be queer-coded, and the show runner was totally okay with queerbaiting the audience with how he wrote Cass because she’s supposedly his favorite. Of course since it’s already set up in canon that Rapunzel married Eugene, the most the show could do was only hint at the romantic feelings in a way only certain viewers could catch on.
Interesting observation. I can defo see it!
I kind of hope that’s not the case because that does feel very queer baity and also stereotypey since that would make her seem like a home wrecker just because she’s a gay woman which feels kinda insensitive
i've rewatched this series so many times and no matter how many times i think about it, this series is better than the movie. the character development, the animation, the emotion, the songs, it's exquisite
One of the many Disney films out there that got turned into a tv series.
Fun fact: Apperently Rapunzel doesn't need any hair-care she only brushed her hair because mother gothel had and still has quite an impact on her life
To be fair to the decision of bringing Rapunzal’s hair back, they didn’t really use it like it used to be used. Healing spell never worked or worked rarely so spamming that in dire need wasn’t an option. The hair if restored to 100% power would’ve been an asspull, but then removing that one power makes it slightly okay.
“Ready As I’ll Ever Be” is how I found the show and omg I think I love it ngl
This is prob one of my fav shows, it was so underrated and I am so so happy you're tackling it.
Cassandra is probably one of the best characters written and that plot twist personally, feels amazing.
Also I actually watched the entire season 1 just to get the context of "ready as i'll ever be" and just stayed on cause the show was really good
I also hate how you take away Eugene also calling out the King.
And if you reframe Rapunzel's "friendship" with Cass to romantic love, the whole "I have to forgive Cass no matter what." turns into very funny lesbian pinning.
Cassandra was my favourite character. I will fully admit her villain arc wasn’t perfect, but I thought season three and her lead up to the villain arc was the most entertaining (an unpopular opinion apparently).
Honestly, something refreshing about this series is that they have Rapunzel and Eugene be a generally healthy couple throughout it. They obviously have some conflict, but they're generally just supportive of each other. They don't drag out a "will they, won't they" or nonsensical relationship drama because they can't and we already know they end up happily married.
It’s also worth noting that in addition to the original voice cast they also had some actually really big broadway stars- Jeremy Jordan as Varian being one of the most prominent. I believe they also had Alan Menken on for the score and he’s also one of the most influential creators at Disney ever since he co-wrote the music for the Little Mermaid! They really had an amazing team
Just finished watching it a few days ago and now I’m sad I wanted to see more adventures. 😢 Rapunzel is actually highkey inspiring.✨I recommend watching the series because it’s so much deeper than you actually thought.❤
I'd love to hear your take on the music for this show and possibly rank them in the future! Tangled is my favorite Disney movie and seeing how much love and passion was put into the show made me love it even more!
8:37 actually prisons were sometimes under castles since they're heavily fortified and hard to escape from. And also bc usually the royal guard resides and works around the same place so it's like killing two birds with one stone
I loved this series so much, I knew that Rapunzel was my favorite Disney princess but this series set that fact in stone.
9:10
YOU'RE JUST GONNA BRUSH PAST THE FACT THAT A HORSE IS THE CAPTAIN OF THE ROYAL GUARD??!?!!
A *HORSE*
There's also a rejected spin-off called Varian And The Seven Kingdoms. Disney rejected it because they didn't think it could be successful without Rapunzel.. when the spin-off was on the show's most popular character. There's alot of fan made VAT7K stuff tho. And plus, now Varian has a boyfriend named Hugo(who may or may not just be Eugene but better) which is more then fine with me!
So true
ITS QUEER? WE REALLY MISSED OUT 💔💔
@@VivACEd.mp3 fr 😔
Before this video all I knew about the series was that the producer, Chris Sonnenburg, was in love with Cassandra and was mad that the fandom liked Varian much better. He even managed to get banned from the discord fans created for the series because of how anti-Varian he was.
54:23 Ready as I"ll ever be is LITERALLY the reason i've watched the show, and it was one of the best choices i could make. Adding more, it's sung by Varian, who became my favorite characters throughout the entire show (and i KNOW i'm not alone in this). I love this series, and now knowing Dana Terrace worked on it, as well as ND Stevenson, that makes SO much sense.
“Ready as I’ll Ever Be”, although giving me connections to one of my weird phases, is an immaculate song.
There are just some things in the series I would have done differently.
Cass being Gothel's daughter? Eh. It's weird to think about. Did she have her just to have a little servant? How did that pregnancy go, with the constant age-changing?
Cass embracing her dark heritage? No. Cass taking the moonstone? No.
Eugene taking the moonstone? Maybe. Honestly I would have made Varian the prince of the dark kingdom because of that blue streak in his hair. Then he would take the stone.
Ghost girl Zan Tiri? No, unless there was some foreshadowing or little hints beforehand in the background.
A lot of the themes in the show just seemed muddled and confused to me.
While I agree that Cass turning evil seemed sudden I actually saw it coming from the tree. The way she looked at Rapunzel and spoke to her you could feel the wedge driven between them that only grew. Also, Varian had a much better villain transition that gave me chills and so in comparison, it felt a little lackluster.
While I agree that Ready as I'll ever be is an amazing song and for sure my number 2. Nothing left to lose was such a gut punch of a moment that I always think about it when I remember the show. Though I am biased a bit with Let me make you proud as my third favorite. Varian's voice is just perfect for the songs he was given it has such great emotional weight.
Also, can we talk about how Hookfoot just up and vanished between seasons 2 and 3? What happened there?
Gosh, Cass was my favourite and they really did her character arc dirty.
Personally Varian was my favorite but yeah I really liked Cassandra and was extremely disappointed with how she was written in season 3
IVE B EEN WAITING FOR YOU TO MAKE A VIDEO ON TANGLED THE SERIES AYAYAYAYAY, i LOVE this show way too much (mainly bcuz varian is one of my fav characters and i love tangled sm) but im so happy you finally decided to make a video on it!!!
It was ironic that I was having a lore conversation with people in the comments on another video and I got the premiere notification for this and I squealed cuz I love this show lol
14:47 "I don't know why Disney would dump money into something and NOT market it"
Raya and the Last Dragon and Strange World are probably wondering the same thing too right about now...
they promote Ray but is bad so nobody cares 😅
I really loved the Tangled series so much, I've watched it a bunch of times and listen to the soundtrack a lot! Only real criticisms I had were 1. Cass's betrayal and motivation for doing so were painfully stupid (but hey at least we got good songs out of it) and 2. I wish they'd done more with Varian. I genuinely thought he was gonna have some important significance with the moonstone (maybe be the person meant to have it's power like Rapunzel was meant to have the sundrop?) cause of the random blue stripe in his hair he apparently had even as a baby, the way he can't seem to help being so involved with the black rocks and them being particularly bad around where he lives, and then his dad actually being from the dark kingdom. Felt like they were foreshadowing something that didn't happen and I was kinda disappointed.
But overall I absolutely adore the show! Wish they'd made that Varian spinoff that was pitched!
I don’t think Cass’s villain arc was necessarily stupid, but I think it happened too soon. They were kinda building it up the whole show. Even in season 1 Cass felt overshadowed by Rapunzel. In season 2, everyone kept making her feel inferior and following Adira instead and all that. Then finding out that Gothel is actually her mother…However, I think that she would have held out a little longer. She was clearly tired of everyone making her feel second to Rapunzel (even Rapunzel herself, although not intentionally) and her own mother leaving her for Raps adds to it. The thing the writers messed up imo is her reaction to that. She knew that Gothel was an awful person and clearly left Raps with a lot of trauma, so why would she be mad and Rapunzel for that? It wasn’t her choice! I think they should have waited until like the middle of season 3 to really finish building up Cass’s reasons for betraying everyone, then give us that icing on the cake moment that finally forces her to snap. All of season 2 I was just kind of waiting for something dramatic to happen that would push Cass further to the edge, and then she turned all evil and I was super confused as to why lol.
@@Slightly_Obsessive Eh, personally I don't even like the 'she felt second best' storyline either. Cass got mad about Rapunzel making her own decisions and not doing what she wanted, but Rapunzel is the future queen and Cass should be used to living in a monarchy by now. Maybe she just got a bit full of herself when Rapunzel was more inexperienced and needed a lot more help and guidance, but Raps always needed to be able to start taking charge and calling the shots. Idk, I just liked Cass's character in season one cause her jealousy felt more plausible and everything after that felt weirdly contrived.
@@arielxlazarus yeah I agree with that last sentence, I’m just not good at getting my point across lol. Cass’s villain arc could work they just didn’t execute it properly. Plus they made her character seem like a jerk. And a baby.
@@Slightly_Obsessive yeah they could've done a good villain arc, but they just needed better motivation and more time to establish it. Or maybe just show Zhan Tiri clearly affecting her mind or something? Mind control plots can be fun, and then her basically getting off scot free at the end would make more sense too, since she'd have also been a victim.
I remember watching the movie on Disney channel when it aired. I kept up with the series for the first half of the first season, but I didn't finish it till it was put on Disney plus. I think what shows how good the show was is that my entire family would sit and watch it during the pandemic. I honestly think my dad got into it the most. The characters and the story is interesting and theres so much to it. Its so good its a comfort show for me🤭
I saw some of this show on Disney Channel when I was by my grandmother's house one time and I absolutely loved it. I'm happy to see you found out about it and made a video about it.
fun fact, there was supposed to be a comic/series (i heard the continuation was one of those two) of Varian, which was never made sadly but we know the basic plot and people have made a lot of fanfictions and art of it which i'm happy about! :D
(i'm gonna ramble for a bit and i may not be correct about everything so bare with me, and if you want, check it out for yourself, it's really cool)
it follows Varian traveling the other kingdoms and it's called "Varian and the Seven Kingdoms" which followed Varian at eighteen with his pet raccoon, a donkey his dad gave him, and three new characters he we meet in the other kingdoms, with all of them trying to find the enchanted library to find Varian's mom, Ulla using her journal that Varian's dad gave him, all while another character, Donella, is trying to stop them as the group is trying to collect totems from each kingdom to unlock the library
Varian first meets Yong in his journey at the fire kingdom (or whatever it's name was supposed to be) who was a young boy who reminds Varian of a younger version of him...also Yong has a strange fascination with fireworks and explosions and uses those as his primary tools, then, there's Hugo, who steals the totem from Yong and Varian at one of the trails which Varian is not very pleased about, and we find out that Donella is like a adoptive mom for Hugo, and she instructs Hugo to watch over Varian and stop him, so Hugo, after some convincing and giving back the totem to Varian and Yong, gets into the group, and then at another kingdom (the sky or something i think?) we meet Nuru, a princess of the kingdom, who is really into astrology and becomes the group's main navigator.
(this isn't scratching the surface of the plot, later on we meet Varian's cousins, and also near the end, Ulla, Varian's mom, possesses him since she's been stuck in the enchanted library and needs Varian to get out, but that would kill Varian....also Hugo and Varian kiss and become a couple which i'm happy about cause start off distrusting each other and being antagonistic to one another and slowly they start to trust each other and oh my god i love them so much)
you can find a lot of cool fanart and fanfictions and also, actual character sheets for the characters before Disney scrapped it and also this person named Daniella Keiko Eyer who made a bunch of songs for Vat7k and i highly recommend at least listening to "Closer" cause that song is amazing in my opinion
anyway, sorry for the ramble, and if some of the things i mentioned aren't fully correct, i'm still trying to figure out everything by whatever i can find since it's not technically a real show/comic/whatever it was meant to be cause Disney rejected it since they wanted the creators to swap out Varian for someone else and they refused since they wanted to keep Varian.
i highly recommend at least checking out some stuff about Vat7k since it's really cool and continues on the story of tangled the series and it's just really cool! :D
I like, ALMOST adore Cass' storyline. I feel like they ALMOST knocked it out of the park but never fully nailed down exactly what she's bitter about? And it's such a shame because i really do relate to a lot of her motives. She feels held back, she feels like every opportunity she won had to be bitterly fought for and finds herself best friends with a person who, from her perspective, pretty much had every advantage handed to her. It's implied that Cass had to wait years upon years just to be allowed to wield a sword even though she's clearly been qualified for a really long time. Of course Rapunzel is going to sound belittling when she has so little experience in the world compared to Cass and yet feels so comfortable in a role as leader she's been granted so quickly. Of course it's going to sting extra hard when she finds out her own mother even chose Rapunzel over her. Even if Rapunzel was also mistreated it still feels like something she stole from her. Abusive parents rarely feel 100% like a negative thing, of course she still felt like her mother cared for her. So yeah, it feels right for her, to me, to steal whatever destiny Rapunzel was working towards away from her. To cross a line and forge her own path without constantly asking permission from her mother or her adopted father or from royalty or whatever. I just think they fumbled forming a coherent motivation for her past that point. I HATED her ending, just fully being written out of the story, willingly taking a backseat to Rapunzel again. I think they should've yuri kissed.
Great video! Nothing Left To Lose is hands down my favourite song of the series, and it's brainwormed me many times.
personally, the biggest problem about TTS is that Rapunzel doesn't learn anything, her flaws aren't explored and every person she wronged goes far enough that they end up apologizing to her. She's rather selfish and by the time season two rolls around and she's told that she's part of a greater destiny she starts to disregard the people around her. You think she'd learn from Varian not to do that but time and time again she seems to barely care for her 'friends' outside of the surface immature level of friendship. In season Three when the nightmare rocks attack the town and give everyone their biggest fears, Rapunzel doesn't even notice how traumatic it might be for Varian to use the amber serum that trapped his father and when Varian tells her, Rapunzel gives him a blanket 'oh I feel the same way but you still have to save the town.' and no follow up to after that. In fact, Rapunzel before doesn't even know why Varian is so scared going as far as to tell him whatever the rocks show him isn't real, despite knowing all the terrible things that happened to Varian. This doesn't even go into the times she disregarded Cass's feelings and safety, heck she doesn't even want blame despite being the reason Cass burnt her hand, and instead of saying sorry to Cass, she wants Cass to apologize to her. What would that apology even look like? "I'm sorry that as your best friend and assigned bodyguard, I worried about your personal safety and tried to save you from a collapsing building while you were being possessed by magic that could potentially destroy the world and hurt myself saving your life?"
At the end of the day, Rapunzel is a victim of abuse that as a result of being kept mentally childish and controlled, made her selfish, immature, hate control even when it's only her friends and family looking out for her, and disregards everyone around her for the sake of destiny. These are interesting flaws and I wished they explored them, instead of trying to justify rapunzel's behavior to make her the good guy. The good guy can have flaws and learn from their mistakes, you know how interesting it would be to have rapunzel recognize her own flaws and how her life under mother gothel affected her and grow from that. It could start after Varian went evil to give his arc more weight and show rapunzel start to learn from her own mistakes.
TLDR Rapunzel doesn't need to be a perfect disney princess, she needs therapy
yeah, i love rapunzel so much but its so annoying how, because the writers dont want to show that their perfect disney princess actually has flaws, she just ends up looking like a giant douche
THANK YOU❤❤❤❤ This REALLY annoys me. Especially how she handled the situation with Cassandra. She tried to force Cassandra to talk about her feelings, but refused and refused to take them into consideration. It was only "YOU have to be okay with what I did", "I did the RIGHT thing", "You have to listen to ME!", "I'm the future queen, you have to be okay with MY decisions", etcetera. She could not even bother to say "I'm so sorry about your arm. I really should have listened to you.", or "Just because I won't always agree with you does not mean that I don't care", "It's my fault your arm hot permanently burned. I should have listened to you", "Just because we need Adira right now does not mean that I don't still trust you, you're still my bestie and unbiological big sister.", but instead she just completely ignored how Cassandra felt. Cassandra risked everything for Rapunzel and did everything in her power to keep her safe, but Raps completely ignored that. Raps even trusted Adira - a complete stranger - over Cassandra, her best friend, lady in waiting and body guard. When Eugene warned her about Cassandra, she really should have talked to Cassandra and apologized for real. Instead she took Cass for granted and completely ignored that she was a person in her own right with her own thoughts and feelings. Rapunzel became ignorant, shallow and even abused her powers as a princess.
@@CrystalGoddess90It was Cassandra’s fault that she burned her arm tbh, Raps told her to run with the others when she was doing the spell and Cassandra grabbed her causing her arm to get burned, so it makes sense why Raps would be angry or wouldn’t apologize since she did tell her to run, but I do agree about the not talking bit and not being direct
@@montserratmarroquin400 Cassandra's job and duty was to protect Rapunzel. She wasn't just her lady in waiting, she was a part of the royal guard and thereby also Rapunzel's body guard. Rapunzel shouldn't have chanted the evil song before Cassandra did anything.
@@CrystalGoddess90 Yea I do get it’s Cassandra’s job to protect Raps but the evil spell took the person and completely hipnotized them, and they were defeating the big bad guy so Raps told Cassandra to run and that she got this
I watched the video all the way through while doing homework, and I THOROUGHLY appreciated what you said at 54:22. Yes, ready as I'll ever be is like, the best song in the show, and I do like it.
I worked in the animation department on this show (you even showed some of my scenes! XD). I just want to say thanks for noticing how hard we went on the animation. It was not easy, let me tell ya ha ha.
my favorite small detail about this series is how raps still has her crooked smile ❤️
In my country season three was dubbed but was never put on Disney+ (Amphibia and The owl house have the same case) and it saddens me because I'm a fan of those series and want to support them.
exactly exactly exactly, for both varian and cass there was ZERO build up for their change, cass especially. there was absolutely no reason for her to betray Rapunzel and continue to trust zahn zhan tiri again and again even after seeing her sabotage cass is just so unbelievable. I hate it but I like the show so I choose to believe it's just because zhan tiri is controlling her 😭
I love this TV show and Rapunzel is one of my favorite Disney Princesses of all time! 👸🏼🥰
BTW, Tangled the Series gets renamed as Rapunzel's Tangled Adventures. 📺🤓
The statement you had at the end I FULLY agree with “Ready as I’ll ever be” is the best song and know one can change my mind
I absolutely LOVED Tangled the Series when it was first airing! I always thought it would be super cool if they made a Mulan show, she’s my fave + you can’t tell me that saving the emperor was the only time she had to save China. Also. Li Shang, need I say more
Ready As I'll Ever Be is tied with Nothing Left to Lose as my favorite song tbh. The blend of Jeremy Jordan and Eden Espinosa's vocals is just...chef's kiss