Is the FX Superior Slug Liner really better?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Today I explore the possibility that the FX Superior Slug Liner is much better than the original slug liner, shooting out of my FX Impact Mk I with the 700mm barrel. I am also testing to determine if you can use pellets in the slug liner.
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That’s how the real test should be look like.✌️✌️✌️
Thank you for these video , and it would good if we see the 100 yards for these new liner.
This is the video I've been waiting for. WELL DONE & THANK YOU
Fantastic review, can't wait for the next video at longer distances. I hope the new slug proves to be a winner.
Thank you,
William
Bud I havd designed my own slug die. Soon as I have done all my testing I will make a plan to send you a test pan.
That sounds very promising. congratulations first. Can't wait to see the results.
Love these tests, so much going on, with different power settings, pellets, pellet weights, and slugs.
With a rifle like that, and the new barrel liner it's bound to be promising. The thing is, all this sucks you in little by little and before you know it you've spent a ton of money!! Lol I personally have been shooting pcps for some years now, love it!!
And I've spent a TON of money as well, it's so damn addicting it's just not funny!! Especially when your kit performance is exactly how you want it. But something strange happened to me. I was paying attention to my friend's HW97k and his tx200mk3, after talking to him and showing me his targets from 25 yards to 90yards I was dumbfounded!!! He also mentioned the fact that he has used pcp rifles loved them but found it all too easy! So he got some great Springer fixed barrel rifles and personalized them to his taste, achieving some incredible groups at long ranges, he mentioned that the techniques were much more difficult, but way more satisfying...
He said it took him at least 5 months to REALLY start seeing progress. His groups on those targets didn't lie!
So, I thought, I could sell SOME of the pcp rifles and easily get at least two great springers, and start this journey!!!
Well, apart from having a much simpler set up, less weight to haul around what with scuba carbon bottles, and extras, it seemed like I was extremely excited doing this test! Especially Now when I hunt for small game! And do pest control! Grant you can't do those FX Impact crazy long shots, and have the same high power levels that only those type of air rifles can deliver, but there's something oddly satisfying about being able to hit your mark on paper again and again, and it being so damn hold sensitive, and trigger sensitive!! Hunting is the real rocker when your heart is racing and with all the adrenaline after putting down a rabbit at 73 yards! Is pretty exciting... it all depends what you're going to use a kit for, personally I don't need to go out more than 85-90yards with my favourite air guns...
But boy do I love seeing Matt from SA, and others pesting at 120-200 yards!!!!!!:-) :-) :-)
Nice videos here, glad I found you :-)
Thank you sir, I also shot s lot of Springers and got provincial colors in doing so, the hold sensitiveness takes time to master but can be very fulfilling, shot the AA TX200 and LGV master mostly. Awesome guns.
Great tests as always and interesting results. No surprise the knockouts didn't like it as they don't particularly like a normal Slug A due to the 216 dia. They seem to have been designed for general barrels with a slightly tighter choke ( Pellet A, Lothar Walther and the like ) can fully understand that as JSB want then to have as wide a market as possible.
Happy Halfwit My impact with slug liner hates the knockouts, can’t get a group @ any velocity 🤷♂️🙈🙄. I too believe it’s because they’re 216 diameter. Shame really as they’re nice looking slugs 🤔
I have with JSB Knockout 217 much better result compare to 216 on my 600mm superior liner.
Rudolf Princ can’t get the 217 yet so am using H&N both 23 and 25 (218) are excellent in mine but that’s a all barrel dependant 🤦🏻
@@peewee007654321 and affordable. My STX liner loves them, but at 30m the Superior Slug Liner didn't agree, will test at 50m and 100m in the next couple of weeks.
@@rudolfprinc5518 Oooh, this sounds interesting, hope the new shipment includes the 217's
Great vid matey looking forward to the next one 👍
Thanks bro.
Really great job! Appreciate a lot!
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thanks alot
No difference at 30 mts. On both liners. Probably at longer range will make a difference. Hope you do it at 80 ,90 or 100 mts. By the way good job!!
Great Video Gert,,,, where are you getting the JSB Jumbo Heavy 18.13, Jsb Redesigned and the JSB knockouts? Ronald Limpopo
Sir I am using the fx maverick compact 177 bilow 20 juls
Wich slug is better to me pla answer me sir
I have the older slug A liner in .25 cal and it is great with jsb pellets, especially heavy 33.4 grain. It did great with 33 grain Neilson slugs also, but I just used jsb knockout slugs and it was off a bit. Probably just need to adjust the scope for poi.
Nice if it can shoot both, but the original liner was built for pellets, super accurate but a very slow twist rate. The newer liners have a faster twist rate that stabilizes slugs better, still good with pellets but not brilliant anymore.
In .22 the twist has gone from slug A 700mm 1:16 to1:24 in superior and 1:16 in heavy
Hi Gert, very good insight and unbiased testing. From where are you? South Africa and where? Who is the official FX dealer/representative in South Africa? Keep up the good work.
Hi Johan, Cape Town, if I am not mistaking Patriot Outdoors now has the import rights, but there are a lot of shops selling, Blades and Triggers in Cape Town and Outdoor Pitstop in the East Rand pops in my head.
I thought the standard STX barrels were designed for pellets and hybrids the slug liner A for lightweight standard slugs like nsa and the slug B for heavy slugs. This explains why the 26 grain slugs shot good in the slug a liner. My Wildcat 3 700mm stx liner loves the 23 grain nsa slugs
The original liners were quit good with all slugs up to 30gr, the A and the STX. The heavy Superior liner was designed for the 30+ gr slugs. I have a simple philosophy... if your liner works with a specific slug... shoot it and don't mess around with other slugs.
Thank you for this great video. i do need your help though regarding the new superior liner heavy .I ordered the new superior liner heavy a some weeks ago but when i got the new liner, it didnt say Heavy OR slug liner OR pellet liner, it Just had the superior sticker on it. after contacting the shop they say that this is the new heavy...Im very frustrated. shouldent it suppose to say what liner it is? Did your liner say heavy or slug liner on it?
I also find the naming very confusing, it would have been better to add the twist rate onto the liner (engraved and not a sticker), most of the different liners have different twist rates. But marketing is another beast on its own. At least FX is constantly trying to improve the product, other manufacturers have been using the same old stuff for 20 years...
If I'm not mistaken the standard STX liner is the STX superior liner. Is your video covering the difference between the same two liners, or are you comparing the STX superior liner to the STX superior heavy liner?
The FX liners are more confusing than politics on a good day. The "superior" liners were introduced after the STX liners, what makes them suprior? Nobody knows. In the video I use the old STX slug liner (before the suprior branding began), I compared this to the Heavy Superior slug liner. According to the FX guys the old STX (Superior or not) is great with slugs up to 30gr and the Heavy superior is great with the heavier slugs. The difference between the two is minute, I did get pockets of accuracy improvement, but in hind sight I don't know if that is due to the Heavy liner or just due to the difference between different liners, the heavy is supposed to have a slightly faster twist rate...Who knows.Each liner differs and you will get different results from two of the same type of liners as well. I have given up on the liner battle, focussing more on getting the optimal speed for a specific slug in the liner that I currently use.
Thanks
Have you had any feedback about the reliability of the FX impact Mark II and Mark 3? From what I was told the Mark II has less issues than the Mark 3 and the problem is leakages from seals. But overall from what I hear FX has excellent products except for reliability. What's your opinion?
The challenge with FX is the high pressure being used to get thye max power out of th guns, with that you need to accept that o-rings are going to blow. The guns itself are good, but regular leaks are common. I still have my pimped out Mk I - with 72cc Power plenum, power block built in etc. Sold my Mk II as I didn't have a use for both. WOuld like to buy the Mk III for the adjustability it has over the MK II, but not going to waste time if my old MK I is still a laser. If you buy an FX, just buy a seal kit as well, lots of UA-cam videos to replace the o-rings. They also have a warranty on new guns to fix the leaks in the first year.
Thanks for getting back to me. Appreciate the advice.
@AimSmall correct me if I'm wrong but FX makes three kinds of barrels. The standard FX barrel, pellet and Slug and slug barrel
@@surreallife777 Just 3? There has been so many. The originals, were replaced by the Smooth Twist variant. Then The Superior and Superior Heavy , and inbetween they have different twist rates per make as well...
One more question tha maverick compact 200 meter shooting possible sir pls answer me sir
With 700mm barrel and super tune, yes.
I think it's a good attempt.
However, it may be easier to understand the change if you test at a longer distance.
Nice video
Please try the stx pellet liner with the jsb knock out.
I think you will be suprised🙂
I agree, thats what they are designed for
I did, if you go back in the video archive you will see them compared next to the Redesigned's, the STX barrel loves them.
@@AimSmall
Ok havent seen that one 🙂
Just that i have tried the slugliner a but i getter better results with the pelletliner.
And i can go to higher velocity.
Slugliner A 600mm 267ms
Pelletliner 600mm 278ms
Slug on slug at 100meter👍
i love how you change from a regular person to a indian 😂 sooo funny
English not my first tongue, it is like airtime... eventually I run out. lol.
@@AimSmall hahahahaha but naaa you do that for fun and it's awwwesome and you do that for couple words then perfect english airtank 🤣🤣🤣
Was it worth getting the Power Plenum ?
Does the liner fit the Maverick as well?
If the barrel length is the same then yes
My new impact came with the superior liner. It’s not been used as before I brought the impact I’d brought the slug liner A to go in it. The liner loves H&N 25 grain 218 slugs. Now I’m wondering what the superior liner would shoot my slugs like 🤔. Or is it just a pellet liner? 🤷♂️
Mate got mine 2 weeks ago shot just once (didnt got the time ) itcomes with the superior liner which is a pellet liner
Mailed fx the told me they the superior heavy is for the slugs.
Yes, FX now has a Superior Slug Liner and a superior Pellet Liner, I chose the Slug Liner due to versatility, it shoots pellets just as good, I don't know if the Superior Pellet liner will out-shoot the slug liner. The science is different but the ability of the average shot (like myself) will probably never notice it. PS: Try the JSB KnockOut slugs in the pellet liner, it is probably the only slug I have shot with that loves a pellet barrel as well. Unfortunately H&N is not coming to the party, can't get test pellets currently and the importer isn't service orientated either. Might never get the chance to test them unless somebody sends me the stuff.
i work hard wilcat mk3?
Dear sir smooth twist X liner can use slug gr?
Yes, smooth twist is good with slugs up to 26gr, loves the JSB 216 in 25,39gr
You didn’t shoot a slug long/heavy enough to make any difference. Try some JSB Beast or 30gr+ in both to see a difference.
i have the new superior heavy 600mm 22 liner and it shoots pellets like crap compared to the regular superior and it shoots hybrids worse than the regular superior also
Thats weird, mine loves them
More Gert.
Ek sal graag met jou wil kontak maak. Ek probeer my impact te kry teen 1000fts maar kom nie bo 900nie.
Ek het n fx plenum en duel hole transfer port ook in.
Kan jy dalk raad gee asb
Love your Videos best on you tube but is very average accuracy for a rifle costing so much and with so much hype. I own two and have had enough of the inconsistent accuracy ,POI shifts, Faulty Gauges, Creeping Regs, . Well advertised ,well hyped enough is enough
Chris I has the same issues with the first MK I with the extended shroud, fixed it, got fed-up and sold it, then bought a second hand one from a chap that I can now call my friend, no issues what so ever. I don't think FX is the most accurate gun out there, but it has the ability to adjust and fine tune until it is close to perfect. Most other model guns needs to be dissembled to fine tune. I know Daystate is bringing out the Delta Wolf - I would love to get my hands on one to test, the preliminary reviews shows it can be fine tuned almost the same as the FX... Hope Tony at Daystate reads this post!
@@AimSmall just way to used to Theoben accuracy and reliability probably!!!.
Muito bom essa comparação, mas o resultado é muito parecido nos dois, acho que a FX sabe vender o produto kkkkkk
This is exactly what I am trying to find out, Myth or truth, longer distances will be crucial, 30m isn't nearly enough, interesting that the 4 main slugs/pellets I used the diffidence was marginal on 3, and worse on the JSB KnockOuts.
Try it with Altaros slugs 0.15 BC !
If you send me some I will test them, not available in South Africa
@@AimSmall I will try send, send the correct address on email antomarkic1@gmail.com
And don’t forget to clean often barrel because slugs fast dirty barrel and that makes it a big problem with precision...
What did he say?
What did who say?
30 yard not enough to jodge
This superior liner is just another money business of FX Airguns, there is nothing much difference, don't get fool wasting your money
The difference lies in the twist rate, and a few other small modifications. I did do a test on this and found that there was a difference in certain slugs and pellets. Is it worth the extra money? For me it was as my initial slug liner didn't enjoy slugs very much... Again this has no scientific grounds, just my observations of shooting thousands of slugs and pellets.
semi auto? :O
No, lol, just fast editing.
FX superior slug liners are designed to be accurate at 100 plus, it's not designed for pelles at all. It should be run at high reg pressure and is designed to work best with Patriot Javelin heavy slugs, You are wasting your time at 30m....
That is the marketing propaganda yes. I am very happy with the Superior Heavy shooting both 18gr pellets and 25,39gr pellets. WIll be doing a new video soon with the JTS pellets. That marketing twang that it is build for the Javelin slugs is just that, Marketing twang, mine shoots 27gr H&N (not the new ones) the best of all the slugs. Roelf himself is shooting Hgh BC slugs (probably a new Javelin coming out soon) with all his fidderent liners.
@@AimSmall More confused than ever now lol... I have the 700mm superior (do it all barell, not slug) Trouble is I run .25 at the moment... should I try slugs in that or go to the superior heavy slug. Or to 'conform" switch to .22 barrels...? Yours, Confused...😕
Which straw is better? LOL
Fx expensive gimmick bad barrels not reliable. Air arms all the way
Omg how can you revieuw anything if you never ever shoot a tight group and that should he the best air rifle in the world !! My hatsan at44 outperforms these results 24/7 with just the standard jsb exact king diabolo ... shame on you dude !
Shame on you, really. That is a very immature comment? The FX isn't the best gun in the world and If you think it is then Shame On YOU. Very unfair comments from you, I post honest reviews, I don't select the best grouping out of 30 or 40 attempts. If your gun is accurate with a specific pellet than good for you, I have a HW100 that will out shoot the FX everyday at 30m and 50m, but can I change the speed on my HW100 to try other pellets... NO, can I go hunting with it? NO. The FX is great because of its versatility and options. If you are looking for the best gun in the world... you will never find it. Each gun is purpose built and most guns are pellet fussy. Once you find the right pellet, weight, speed and you get good groupings, stick to it. I am testing a lot of pellets and slugs, I have found some that are excellent and some that are really bad, it doesn't mean it will shoot bad out of all guns.
@@AimSmall Wtf you can not adjust the HW100 any gun has a hammer and spring, any gun has a bottle to fill to the best presure... you can shoot straight to the bottle... whatever makes the groups tight for your gun. But in this revieuw i see none of that only shitty groups that for sure can not be the fault of the fx...
slug liner ... shoots pellets ... ?
Easily, but not always the other way around.