Great video! I’ve been homeschooling for nine years, always used an eclectic approach. This year, with my oldest going into 8th and my youngest in 4th, we’re transitioning to classical: I’m super excited! My oldest wants to be an engineer and I truly feel the Latin, problem solving and just critical thinking and writing will really help him fulfill this goal. Wish us luck!
Thanks, ToriAnn. This is a fun book to read and be inspired by- a jumping off place- but I was much more relaxed in my style. I was not prepped for college myself, so I had to take it easy.
Thank you for sharing candidly. The con you mentioned about feeling like you're cramming facts in at the Foundations level is why I chose to go with the Charlotte Mason method. Now that my oldest is 15 years old, I'm considering Challenge. I'm having a hard time finding a review of just the Challenge level. Many bloggers on UA-cam have students in Foundations.
Thank you, a really helpful video! As a Waldorf homeschooler - a pro I can see in this system - is in transitioning from myth to recorded history. A "dreamy" student can have a better chance to grasp dates and events with them clearly taught. I also like the sheer amount of writing practice in this style. That said - I've just bought a couple of resources from Memoria Press so haven't yet tried them in person. You could argue that Charlotte Mason style education is also more grounded... but we are quite taken by the explicit approach to history. As you said - it' s about learning to choose which bits of a style of homeschool and which bits of curriculum will work for a particular student.... and then revising as we learn together!
Thanks for the video. I love the idea of a classical idea. But my kids would definitely resist at home. We are moving to another state where there are several charter schools that follow the Core Knowledge Sequence and a classical method. I would consider sending my younger two to a charter like that.
What kids need is an understanding of liberty. If we don't have good government than we have nothing. Teaching kids so that they can participate in a republican form of government and have virtue is the most important thing we can do. They need to know Greek, Roman and British history as it pertains to liberty. This will require memorization. No child wants to learn. You must instill why they must learn.
The Well Trained Mind was the thing back in the early 90's. I got the first edition and tried to jump right it. Yikes, her recommendation for writing was a complete and utter bust- I forget the name of the curriculum, but the first assignment involved describing your thumb or something of that nature. So incredibly uninspiring. It may have improved drastically since then but initial my experience with it led me to seek help elsewhere.
I remember something similar. I had to find fourteen words to describe one of my hairs. It was exasperating and my Mom never made me use that book again. I am so glad she was open to trying a lot of approaches and curriculums. If we had stuck with that book it could have made for a lot of miserable experiences.
I sometimes wonder what would happen if combining a classical education with the memory tools from memory competitions. So the rote learning becomes faster more fun and creative.
Thank you for the video. We have been combining different approaches since we have been officially homeschooling past 6 months. Now I am looking at Latin for my 10 year old and possibly 5 year old, I happen to look deeper into Memoria Press and thinking about switching entirely except math and Language art. My 5 year old is on Classical Conversations at the moment and I am not liking all the facts we are doing without much of the supporting knowledge. When I look at MP, the program looks quite dry for 5 year old. So I think you pointed out well about its cons. Now I came across wondering, what do you think of combining CM with Classical education during the elementary year. Do they conflict by any chance or supplement each other well? Also what are other programs teaches classical education other than MP and CC? Thank you!
I think a lot of people do that. I am planning to do some kind of a combination. I started with gentle and classical press. I noticed that you wrote this 6 months ago - but if you’d like to have more of a conversation and hear what I’m doing let me know.
Can you give me some suggestions on secular classical homeschool curriculum? I’m looking for my 7th grader. We do not want religion to be part of it and I’m having a hard time finding the proper curriculum for him (classical).
Your cons unfortunately come from the lack of knowledge in education which led you look for information in one of the worst book in Classical Education. I suggest you to read more about how the brain works and then you will be able to identify real books about classical education. Good luck!
I was so hopeful when I read the first sentence of your comment. I was hoping you were going to suggest a book that would be a "real book" about classical education, but you just wanted to say "you're wrong" and then run away. Bummer. :(
@@elizabethshearer8390 Yes, there are few different branches of classical education out there. Well-Trained mind is just one of them. Also, most people I know actually mesh classical and Charlotte Mason because there is so much overlap between the two already, but this also seems to be not well known by many people who have an aversion to classical for whatever reason. I think what is interesting in the homeschool community is that so many homeschool moms rave about "Teaching From Rest" and don't realize that that author actually works for (or at least has incredibly close ties to) a different classical education company - Classical Academic Press. I think if one were to look solely at WTM and their method, one wouldn't get the bigger picture of classical education in general, but just that particular take on it. (Having said that, the Well-Trained Mind was the first classical book I read, I loved it and actually have it loaned out to a friend right now. It's not exactly how we do things, but I think it's a good resource.)
@@elizabethshearer8390 Hi Elizabeth, the work of E.D. Hirsch would fit the "how the brain works" comment (ua-cam.com/video/vAoGJfyyIK8/v-deo.html)... and a better (though less compendious) source for classical education specifically might be "A Thomas Jefferson Education" by Oliver Van DeMille
Yeah this is kind of how I felt as well listening to her talk it's basically the same problem my mom originally had when she started me with fifth grade back in the late 90s. She tried to do too much and we ended up being in the school room for hours and hours on end. Once we got more comfortable with what we were doing, it worked out really well and we weren't in school for more than 4 hours 5 hours a day and I did learn Latin at 10 and 12 years old and that type of education absolutely shows even now. I am planning to start homeschooling my own son this year and we will be using a classical education model.
Scientists use it all the time, too. So do people who forage and make homemade, natural medicines and such. An HSLDA representative tried VERY hard to dissuade me from teaching my children Latin. She would not listen to reason. It was quite a disappointing experience, to say the least. Edit: autocorrect must have taken the day off lol
Great video! I’ve been homeschooling for nine years, always used an eclectic approach. This year, with my oldest going into 8th and my youngest in 4th, we’re transitioning to classical: I’m super excited! My oldest wants to be an engineer and I truly feel the Latin, problem solving and just critical thinking and writing will really help him fulfill this goal. Wish us luck!
Thanks, ToriAnn. This is a fun book to read and be inspired by- a jumping off place- but I was much more relaxed in my style.
I was not prepped for college myself, so I had to take it easy.
Thank you for sharing candidly. The con you mentioned about feeling like you're cramming facts in at the Foundations level is why I chose to go with the Charlotte Mason method. Now that my oldest is 15 years old, I'm considering Challenge. I'm having a hard time finding a review of just the Challenge level. Many bloggers on UA-cam have students in Foundations.
Thank you, a really helpful video! As a Waldorf homeschooler - a pro I can see in this system - is in transitioning from myth to recorded history. A "dreamy" student can have a better chance to grasp dates and events with them clearly taught. I also like the sheer amount of writing practice in this style. That said - I've just bought a couple of resources from Memoria Press so haven't yet tried them in person. You could argue that Charlotte Mason style education is also more grounded... but we are quite taken by the explicit approach to history. As you said - it' s about learning to choose which bits of a style of homeschool and which bits of curriculum will work for a particular student.... and then revising as we learn together!
Thank you, ToriAnn.
This is a public service.
love this lady!!
Thank you for sharing this perspective!
Thanks for the video. I love the idea of a classical idea. But my kids would definitely resist at home. We are moving to another state where there are several charter schools that follow the Core Knowledge Sequence and a classical method. I would consider sending my younger two to a charter like that.
love this
Thank you for sharing.
What kids need is an understanding of liberty. If we don't have good government than we have nothing. Teaching kids so that they can participate in a republican form of government and have virtue is the most important thing we can do. They need to know Greek, Roman and British history as it pertains to liberty. This will require memorization. No child wants to learn. You must instill why they must learn.
The Well Trained Mind was the thing back in the early 90's. I got the first edition and tried to jump right it. Yikes, her recommendation for writing was a complete and utter bust- I forget the name of the curriculum, but the first assignment involved describing your thumb or something of that nature. So incredibly uninspiring. It may have improved drastically since then but initial my experience with it led me to seek help elsewhere.
I remember something similar. I had to find fourteen words to describe one of my hairs. It was exasperating and my Mom never made me use that book again. I am so glad she was open to trying a lot of approaches and curriculums. If we had stuck with that book it could have made for a lot of miserable experiences.
I happen to have an interesting thumb, actually. Flat at the tip, from too much sucking. Lol
I sometimes wonder what would happen if combining a classical education with the memory tools from memory competitions. So the rote learning becomes faster more fun and creative.
Thank you for the video. We have been combining different approaches since we have been officially homeschooling past 6 months. Now I am looking at Latin for my 10 year old and possibly 5 year old, I happen to look deeper into Memoria Press and thinking about switching entirely except math and Language art. My 5 year old is on Classical Conversations at the moment and I am not liking all the facts we are doing without much of the supporting knowledge. When I look at MP, the program looks quite dry for 5 year old. So I think you pointed out well about its cons. Now I came across wondering, what do you think of combining CM with Classical education during the elementary year. Do they conflict by any chance or supplement each other well? Also what are other programs teaches classical education other than MP and CC? Thank you!
I think a lot of people do that. I am planning to do some kind of a combination. I started with gentle and classical press. I noticed that you wrote this 6 months ago - but if you’d like to have more of a conversation and hear what I’m doing let me know.
@@adelleb2671 Are you back on your UA-cam channel? Im glad to see you are back! Hope to see more videos!
Thanks for the video~
What's your take on the Sudbury schooling?
I've never heard of Sudbury school....
Can you give me some suggestions on secular classical homeschool curriculum? I’m looking for my 7th grader. We do not want religion to be part of it and I’m having a hard time finding the proper curriculum for him (classical).
You can always create your own. Take from varies curriculum.
I do believe that CM es stupid
Your cons unfortunately come from the lack of knowledge in education which led you look for information in one of the worst book in Classical Education. I suggest you to read more about how the brain works and then you will be able to identify real books about classical education. Good luck!
I was so hopeful when I read the first sentence of your comment. I was hoping you were going to suggest a book that would be a "real book" about classical education, but you just wanted to say "you're wrong" and then run away. Bummer. :(
@@elizabethshearer8390 Yes, there are few different branches of classical education out there. Well-Trained mind is just one of them. Also, most people I know actually mesh classical and Charlotte Mason because there is so much overlap between the two already, but this also seems to be not well known by many people who have an aversion to classical for whatever reason. I think what is interesting in the homeschool community is that so many homeschool moms rave about "Teaching From Rest" and don't realize that that author actually works for (or at least has incredibly close ties to) a different classical education company - Classical Academic Press. I think if one were to look solely at WTM and their method, one wouldn't get the bigger picture of classical education in general, but just that particular take on it. (Having said that, the Well-Trained Mind was the first classical book I read, I loved it and actually have it loaned out to a friend right now. It's not exactly how we do things, but I think it's a good resource.)
@@elizabethshearer8390 Hi Elizabeth, the work of E.D. Hirsch would fit the "how the brain works" comment (ua-cam.com/video/vAoGJfyyIK8/v-deo.html)... and a better (though less compendious) source for classical education specifically might be "A Thomas Jefferson Education" by Oliver Van DeMille
Yeah this is kind of how I felt as well listening to her talk it's basically the same problem my mom originally had when she started me with fifth grade back in the late 90s. She tried to do too much and we ended up being in the school room for hours and hours on end. Once we got more comfortable with what we were doing, it worked out really well and we weren't in school for more than 4 hours 5 hours a day and I did learn Latin at 10 and 12 years old and that type of education absolutely shows even now. I am planning to start homeschooling my own son this year and we will be using a classical education model.
00:21 "no one speaks latin anymore"???? 🤦 Catholic clergy still speak it. Get educated lady.
Scientists use it all the time, too. So do people who forage and make homemade, natural medicines and such. An HSLDA representative tried VERY hard to dissuade me from teaching my children Latin. She would not listen to reason. It was quite a disappointing experience, to say the least.
Edit: autocorrect must have taken the day off lol