Moving Coal from Train to River Barge
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- See the coal being dumped from train cars, then follow how the coal
gets to the barge loader and see some river tug boats moving loaded
coal barges. Then we will take a tour via Google Earth of our river
coal loading facility and our La Belle trans loading facility where they
load CSX and NS trains.
Our train has 38 cars in it. Each car holds 115 tons. We load 3 different size
barges here. Standards hold 800 to 900 tons. Stumbos hold 1100 to 1200 tons.
Jumbos hold 1400 to 1500 tons. So you can now figure out how many train cars
it would take to fill each different size barge.
See the video on how coal is loaded into barges:
• Loading Coal Barges on...
Check out: Unloading Coal Hopper Cars:
• Bottom Discharge Hoppe...
Check out the Cooling Towers at Hatfield Power Station being blown up:
• Cooling Towers get Blo...
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Disclaimer: I am an employee of Iron Senergy at Cumberland
Mine. My job is railroad track maintenance. I am very fortunate to
have this job and everyone at the mine is very fortunate to have
Iron Senergy as it's current owner. Our past owners had every
intention of shutting this mine down, but Iron Senergy took
over and have kept this mine alive.
Please understand: I am NOT in any way an official or unofficial
spokes person for Iron Senergy or Cumberland Mine. Any viewpoints,
opinions or anything that I show in the videos, or write in the video
descriptions or any answer to any comment, should NEVER be
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any kind of official or unofficial statement from Iron Senergy,
Iron Cumberland, Cumberland Mine, any of the mine's management,
any of the contractors that may be shown in any video, nor of
any of my fellow co-workers.
Any viewpoints or opinions I may make in the videos, in the
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Iron Synergy or any one at Iron Senergy or Cumberland Mine
necessarily has or makes.
Again, we are very fortunate to have Iron Senergy as our current
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Cumberland Mine, my fellow coworkers and also any contractors
that may be shown. Thank You, Dave
#rivercoalloading#coalbarges#coaltraincars
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Tampa electric is converting to natural gas.
Oh darn, I gotta check out your other channel too woo hoo!!!
@@bennetts-revenge_2 👍😊
Every coal haul model railroader will love this video. A lot model the mine, some a power plant, but this gets it into a river barge. Thanks!!
So we can expect to see this being modeled at the Society Dave?
That would be cool and your just the man to do it. Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
When you mentioned a rotary dumper I figured I would tell you about a CN coal train. The train was over 25,300 tons. It had 5 locomotives. Coal trains typically went through Fort Frances then on to Thunder Bay and then the loads get transferred to lake boats there. Someone in CN worked out a deal to haul coal directly to Burns Harbour instead of transferring the coal to a lake boat. The train made it to Burns Harbour fine, but the cars couldn't be unloaded there because they were 6 or 8 inches too long and wouldn't fit in the rotary dumper. The train had to circle back and go up Proctor Hill by Duluth which probably required two more locomotives, then cross back into Canada at Fort Frances then head to Thunder Bay to get unloaded so the coal could be transferred to a boat. So not all rotary coal care the same length. One can only imagine how much that mistake cost CN.
Ouch! Betya somebody got yelled at for that one. 😁
Geezus!
That means some cars look almost exactly the same but can vary by just 8” in length. Were they proprietary rail cars or leased?
If you look at the specs on coal hoppers, most of them are listed as 53’1” over pulling face
of couplers, or less. I’ve been told that was because that was
the largest that would fit in most rotary dumpers in the US.
I know some of your Canadian
built cars could be as long as
57 or 58 feet long. They must
have some large rotary dumpers in Canada. I’ve seen
a lot of former coal gons and
hoppers in scrap steel service.
The hopper of choice, in modern coal service, seems to be the rapid discharge variety.
The bathtub cars are technically gons. The dumper
this guy was referring to must have been built a tad too small
or the cars were Canadian built
to their specs. I have an interesting tidbit to tell about
rotary dumpers as well. When I
worked for the railroad, we had
one power plant that we served.
Occasionally, they couldn’t receive any trains because they
were having to dig a car out of
the rotary dumper. Evidently, if
they aren’t hooked up right, the
cars can fall down into the pit as they’re being rolled over!
Thanks again for your videos!
A lapse on my part, sorry. Those specs
apply to coal gons as well as hoppers.
As far as I know, some plants rotary
dump the rapid discharge hoppers, as
well, if they are equipped with rotary
couplers. The equipment unloaded at
the power plant I referenced were all
regular bottom dump hoppers equipped with rotary couplers. It was
all railroad owned cars, as well. The
plant was served by C&NW, but we
had access to it through the interchange track at one of our C&NW
connections. They received some coal
from the C&NW. There was Colorado
coal in Santa Fe and Rio Grande hoppers, BN hoppers from Montana,
and L&N (later SBD family mix) hoppers from Kentucky. There was a
sprinkling of small cuts of IC hoppers
from Southern Illinois in less than
trainload cuts; picked up by our local
and taken to the main yard, that was
close to the plant. Enough rambling,
I guess! lol!
@@Bassotronics At one point in time a lot of coal cars and even locomotives were owned by Hydro Ontario and leased to CP or CN. Then I think the railways bought them all from Hydro Ontario. The coal from western Canada was transferred to boats in Thunder Bay, and Vancouver, so there was no reason for them to cross into the US because the cars were captive on unit trains. I could have some facts wrong, but I am not aware of any unit coal trains going to the US before the one that I saw which turned out to be a failure.
Thank you for this tour of your barge load-out and of nearby ex-coal-mines and the La Belle barge unloading facility. I especially appreciate your large-font captions and that you pause the video long enough for us to read them. They add value to your already interesting videos. You are a good guy and if I lived in your area I would want you to be my neighbour.
Like Mr. Rogers sang, won't you please be my neighbor.Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Harold. That does mean a lot to me your saying about those captions. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
40 years ago I use to work a little with similar types of railroad cars, and we use to carry a long heavy metal bar to open and close the hopper doors - was not fun at all. Is good to see the opening and closing of the doors is now air-driven apparently. Trying to close those heavy hopper doors on railroad cars manually with a long heavy metal bar was difficult and physical to put it politely.
You are right about that Bob, that is some pretty tough work.
Our old ballast car had to use bars to open and close doors.
At least we've never had coal cars like that. We really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thank you. Enjoyed the second part of the barge tour...
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed Dale. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Cool beans, I often wondered how the cars were unloaded and the barges loaded, tyvm.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed Russell. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Cool! I'm a UP van driver. I sometimes take crews to or from a coal loading facility near Cora,, IL. near the Mississippi River. I also help assist train crews getting coal trains to Gateway Coal mine near Coulterville, IL. It's nice there because once they get the cars in and weighed/scanned I can just sit by the loader and watch the cars get loaded till either a replacement crew comes and I take my crew home, or I assist them in getting the train to the Cora, IL, facility.
Wow that sounds like a cool job Jeff. I know the river boat van
drivers are always in demand to take crews to the boats. NS
around here doesn't usually change out crews close. Good for
you, get to talk railroading all the time with those guys
and watch trains being loaded. Neat.
I finally looked at your track and coal transfer on google earth. Really impressive from above. I watched your past video on when you traveled along the length of the track. From above the track looks REALLY curvy! Thanks for this video always enjoy your enthusiasm.
We have 70 curves in 16.8 miles of track Gary, and your right, that's a really curvy track! Thank you so much for watching tonight and may you have a very good day my friend.
I worked at a zinc refinery in Tennessee. My normal job was in the refinery; but when I could get away I'd go down to the barge point. Loved it! Was on the Cumberland River.
Wow I've never been around a zinc refinery, would love to check
that out and see how things are done there Jack. Sounds really
interesting. Thank you for taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I'll send some information whenever I get a chance. Interesting.
@ccrx6700 I'll give a very brief description. Refinery is an electrolytic refinery. The concentrated ore is delivered by barge, truck, or rail (RJ Corman). The ore is zinc sulfide. Looks like dirt. It is crushed and concentrated at the mines. Ore is usually concentrated in pockets of limestone. Once at the refinery the ore (zinc sulfide) is roasted to remove the sulfur. The sulfur is converted to sulfuric acid as a byproduct. The zinc oxide is dissolved in sulfuric and impurities removed. The solution is pumped through electrolytic cell. The plates onto aluminum cathodes from which the zinc metal is removed. That's overly simplified, but that will explain the basics. The internet has articles on it.
@jackgreen412 wow awesome thanks so much for sharing that with me Jack 👍😊💯
@ccrx6700 At one time, they had an open house for the refinery employees in the mine at Go Gordonsville, TN. It was nothing like I expected. It was solid limestone rock, not remembering how deep. The pockets of ore were compared to like raisins in raisin bread. They had to move and crush a lot of rock to get the ore.
Great tour Dave, thank you!
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed1208 Bug. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Love the video Dave my uncle worked on the barges for J&L Steel on the Southside of Pittsburgh and love seeing the boats and barges on the Mon.
J&L used to shove barges past us here Mike, but that was way
back. This used to be a really busy river back in the day, it's nothing now like it used to be. Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks for the informative video Dave! A lot of the barges way up the Mississippi river in Wisconsin here are Ingram as well. The amount of barges pushed are usually 3-wide by 5 or 6 long (15 or 18 barges). There are a lot less barges these days as they are closing all of the coal-fired power plants along the river up here. It used to be coal upriver and grain back down, but I don't know what is coming up river these days 🤔 Last year I typed-in Cumberland mine on Google earth and followed the track from the mine to the harbor. Very interesting seeing it from the air like that!
Got a track geometry report that is in GE, it's pretty cool and will show you that someday Mojo. All across the US coal traffic is down, all the railroads and barges, demand is just not there right
now. Ingram is huge, they are the largest barge transportation
company in the US. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Many thanks Dave!
Your certainly welcome and glad you enjoyed Robert. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Very cool tour from Google earth. Glad you got to show us the loading of barges. Nice they let you make a video of their operation. Thank you.
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed Beverly. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
What a great little history lesson Dave ... Much appreciated... Thx
Thank you and glad you enjoyed Eddy. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thank you, thank you; thank you for spilling the beans on how you spill all of those black beans onto the barges.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Earl.
You are certainly welcome. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Another very cool video Dave! i watched the previous barge video and that was also excellent. If anyone complains about coal, simply remind them that it is responsible for recharging their electric vehicle!😀
Thank you David and glad you liked the show tonight. You are right, coal is responsible for feeding a whole lot of electric vehicles. Appreciate very much your visiting with us tonight and
may you have a very good day my friend.
I guess you never heard of hydroelectric dams, nuclear power, solar power, or wind power. They're all cheaper than coal.
EV FUEL good one Dave!
@@MottyGlix How many EVs can be built using just solar and wind power? Zero. You can't smelt steel or aluminum or create any of the components needed to make an EV relying solely on those sources. Hydroelectric is geographically limited and the Eco-screamers are in the process of getting the existing dams torn down and will not allow new ones to be built in order to save the spotted warbler trout that was last spotted in a dry tributary in 1832. Any new nuclear plants are at least 20 years in the future if they can stand up to frivolous court challenges that make them economically questionable. Alternative energy is a nice dream and a small part of the overall package but fossil fuels, including coal, still carry the burden of our society.
Thanks for sharing Dave very interesting operation. It would be neat to see how they unload the barges. Have a Great Day
Most plants use a bucket unloader Anthony, I will most likely
never get to video that. When I was at Hatfield Power Plant we
had a bucket unloader and I can run one. At La Belle they have
a huge Sonnebogen clam, it is so fast you wouldn't believe it.
In both cases it takes about the same time to load a barge as
it does unload one. We really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Cannot believe how fast the hopper is unloaded
Yes it is amazing how fast the car unloads doesn't take much
longer to load them either.
Thank you sir. I'm from West Elizabeth. And my wife was from Boston. We moved to NC after we were married in 1971.I spent hours on the river when I was younger trapping in the winter.Boy was that the good old days and I loved every minute.I'm 77 yrs now and do I miss the river.Thanks again for the memory.
Trapping is almost a thing of the past around here now, hardly
anyone ever does it. Then everyone wonders why we are over run with raccoons. Thank you for taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks for sharing Dave. Enjoyed the tour.
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed Brian. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
What an excellent tour! Being an old sailor the barge / tug side of it was pretty cool. Thank you Dave.
I spent 20 months as an Engineman on tug boats in Subic Bay Philippines. 1967-1969 then to Vietnam on Swift Boats. Never went to sea. Discharged as an E-5 honorably in December 1970.
Go Navy!
@@donniee1934 Hey donniee, I was a boatswain mate / coxswain in the CG for 8 yrs 71-79 Got out as an E-5 & got my ab papers then sailed with sealift command for a few years then on to become a mate on seismic survey boats in the gulf of mex then to tugs & ferry boats here om the new england area.. good times!!
@@jonwatt678 Thanks for your service, Mate
Thank you and glad you enjoyed Jon. Bet those boats did
excite you then. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Great video Dave. Enjoyed the offload and the barges. Awhile back you asked about the barges down here. We have alot of fuel refineries so most of the barges haul chemicals for them. We have a rock and sand quarry nearby. Those barges get really long. They have bow thruster tugs. Being on the Intercostal waterway witch is really narrow they are only allowed two wide. Thank you for the video be safe and have a great day.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed John. WE used to see a lot more
fuel barges but they are getting scarcer and scarcer here now. they were always painted green. We really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Hello From Dallas Texas, I watch every show
Always a pleasure to hear from you Donnie. Thanks so much for
all your great support and may you have a very good day my friend.
Howdy neighbor, grand prairie here!
Thank you for this video!
Good to see the barges again headed out with loads of coal.
The Google Maps session was enlightening: the reason Iron Senergy hasn’t linked up with NS or CSX is that their tracks are on the opposite side of the river. Otherwise extending a siding or two could have done the trick.
NS also has tracks on this side of the river Robin, there is a
siding at Poland Mines. That Loveridge Secondary across river
crosses over the river above Grays Landing Lock and Dam and
goes into Poland Mines, then down south to West Virginia. However to build a spur track to Poland Mines would be quite
a feat, it's very rugged territory to get there from our harbor.
Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Taking us where no youtuber has gone before...😊 So interesting! I bet that was a great job, watching the barges and tugs on the river. Loved to see how all that works. Thank you!
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Jennifer.
Yes it was a good job loading barges, but I got off cause I had
to work half my shifts for 12 hours on midnight. If I was a steady
day shift barge loader I would probably still be doing that. It's
busy, but out of the weather, cool in summer and warm in winter.
As you can imagine being on the barges in winter can be treacherous at times. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 oh yup, split shifts at night are miserable! Another wish of mine is to ride on the tug as it pushes barges down the river...that would be so neat!! Did they ever let you go for a ride on one (not while you were on the clock 😄)?
@@jenniferbutcher8393 nope not down river, lots rides on harbor boat tho
Dave just got back from a lower Mississippi River cruise, lived in Western Pennsylvania all my life. Saw the largest barge/tow lash ups I have ever seen. Some were seven long and six wide, and all jumbos. Talk about tonnage. Was funny to see ocean going ships, running right up and down the river with the tow boats.
And those are some pretty big tugboats on the Mississippi, they
have huge HP and can handle those big tows. I would love to
be on one someday Thomas. 42 Jumbo barges that's 63,000 tons of coal! Wow! Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Hiya Dave
Happy Sunday
Good to see ya my friend
Have a safe week ahead. God bless
Great video
Thank you and glad you enjoyed Clark. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
A good deal of infrastructure for handling all the coal and getting it out for delivery! These are the aspects of the coal mine that I don't think of. A key source of coal for the various industries indeed :)
Thank you for the nice comment Brian and you are right there
are a lot of aspects to this operation no one ever thinks about. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Good show learned lots 🙋
Thank you and glad you enjoyed Alan. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
I appreciate your commitment to your employer. You don't hear of that kind of dedication any more.
Thank you for the nice comment M Sr. Sadly you are right, dedication seems to be a dying thing. Really appreciate your
taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good
day my friend.
Great stuff Dave. I love watching!
Thank you and great to hear you loved watching this. We do
appreciate very much your visiting with us tonight and may you
have a very good day my friend.
38 cars X 115 short tons =4370 short tons. Every barge 1500 short tons.
One train is 2,91 barges!👍👍
You are right about that Nicolayu. Pretty cool stuff isn't it. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Good show! I was amazed how fast the car emptied.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Keen1957. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks, Mr. Dave, quite interesting operation, thanks for posting.
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed Rev.Harry. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
You have the coolest job ever
Thank you for the nice comment Frank, I like this job, lot's of
variety and get to be involved in a lot of cool stuff. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Great video. Thanks for posting. As soon as I heard your voice I knew you were from back home. The western PA dialect is unmistakable. I was born and raised in California, PA. My grandad was a coal miner and my dad was a steelworker. I have seen lots of coal trains and lots of coal barges. This tour was great for seeing this part of the process in more detail. I never had the opportunity to see it. Thanks for posting. Keep up the good work.
Your certainly welcome and glad you enjoyed George. California is only bout 20 or so minutes from here. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 You too.
The EV fuel crack had me rollin' Dave. 😂
Glad you enjoyed it Cory. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
First off, 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Great job Dave 👏!!!
You had Great weather to make this video 📹.
Baby bobcat 👶 even liked it 😮😅.
Have fun and stay safe my friend.
Have wooden D&H caboose to move ,check cellphone 📱 for pictures 📷.
Yes we did Richard and no matter what, we have to keep Baby Bobcat happy. That has become the central preoccupation on
my life now, so very pleased that he is a happy little Bobcat now.
Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700
Hi Dave 👋.
Check your cell phone.
Pictures of the Delaware and Hudson caboose project.
Getting it out of the woods will be a challenge 💪 😎.
@@richardbause2453 👍😊
Google Earth really helps to put things into perspective! Thanks.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it Joe. Really appreciate your
taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good
day my friend.
This is so great to see the other side of the operation at the mine. Another awesome video! Thanks again Dave and have a great day.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Rick. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Nice to see someone who enjoys his (very interesting) job so much! Good on ya’! from Geoff Andrew, Manchester, England. ( retired railway signalman/ truck driver
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Geoff.
Check out my friend's channel at Cedarcam, he also retired from UK railroad and has a lot of cool trains and stuff. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks for the tour! Enjoyed watching! Happy rails Dave! 😀👍❤️🚂💨💨💨💨💨🚙
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Train Chasers at Work. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
I really enjoy your videos we wold never know how much work goes into moving coal.
Thank you Dave, and your company.
Thank you for the nice comment Phil and glad to hear you are
enjoying the home movies. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Very much well worth the wait, Dave. I just watched both of your barge loading videos and I enjoyed them a lot. I was one of those who requested a look at the river operations there at the Cumberland Mine. I love watching the coal flowing into the barges and the tow boats maneuvering the barges. Good stuff! 🤠👍
Thank you and glad you enjoyed them Scotty, Someday I will
make a longer video of the barge loading and how they hook
up barges and move them. We really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Nice job
Thank you Daniel
I enjoyed today's video. Now I feel like I know the rest of the story on the mine operations. Every so often I travel around using Google maps just to see places I haven't been. Have a great day.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Lewis. There is a lot of stuff that has to happen to get coal down the
river as you know by now. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Very cool stuff
Thank you and glad you enjoyed Daniel. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Fantastic Dave thank you, great to see how the black diamonds are shipped away to the customers
Glad you found this interesting Ian. We do have a pretty cool
operation here. Thanks so much my friend for watching and may you have a very good day.
Much faster than a rotary dump .. thanks for the great info, Dave, and another great vid.
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed Kenneth. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Fantastic video and thank you very much once again for sharing with us dave. Enjoyed watching and have a wonderful rest of your evengin.(Steve)
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Steve. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 you're very welcome Dave and thank you very much also.
Cool video, Dave. It looks like natural gas has replaced a lot of that coal for generating electricity. Here on the Gulf Coast of Louisiana they are building massive liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminals to ship the stuff all over the world. One company signed a contract to sell it to China for 20 years! So there must be a LOT of gas in that rock. That shows what the new technology of horizontal drilling, combined with fracking can do to get oil & gas out of shale. I can remember when the plan was to have the USA import massive amounts of natural gas and oil, as ours was running out. But that fracking, combined with sand injection, have made the USA the world's largest oil and gas producer. That technology changed the world and saved millions of people from starvation caused by an energy shortage, combined with sky high energy prices. We can thank Texan, George P. Mitchell, known as, 'the father of fracking', who spent decades perfecting the process. He, and another American, Norman Borlaug, who began the 'green revolution' by developing high yield crops, saved tens of millions of lives, and eliminated large scale famines in India & China.
They should both have statues in front of the UN Building in New York City, since they changed the world for the better, more than any politician or diplomat.
You are so right about that Bill. Fracking has changed the industry in ways most people don't have a clue, then they got these
certain people who want to do away with it, saying it's hurting
the environment. Gas has around 40 some percent of the fuel for producing electricity now. Natural gas is cheap because of
fracking and has been kicking coal.s butt for a lot of years. coal can't compete with natural gas. You would not believe the number of well in our country alone, it's mind boggling. All the well sites and transmission lines here in the past 10 years. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks Dave ! Very enjoyable ! I hope you are having a good day my friend !
Your very welcome and glad you enjoyed RNP. Thanks so much
my friend for watching.
It's was so cool to see
Great to hear you enjoyed Jay. We do appreciate your taking the
time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thank you Dave, for this awesome coverage of the belt to the silo and the barges being moved, an up close view is what I needed for a future model I have in the works.. and we all love your narration and your stories, good stuff !!!
Thank you for the nice comment Pappy. Anything you need to
help with the modeling, let me know. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 really appreciate that Dave.
Dave, Very interesting video. Always enjoy seeing the coal discharged from the hoppers and the Google map segment was excellent...
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Steve. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Just one more VERY enjoyable, educational, and interesting video from you, Dave. THANK YOU!!!!
To paraphrase something someone has been known to say before, "I LOVE THIS STUFF!"
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Trainman2k. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Someone is sending coal there my town here in the Mojave desert 🏜 yesterday day the cars are a little bit shorter than these ,or at least they look shorter , and they were filled above the sides of the hopper cars sides thanks BigAl California
The Trona RR is in the Mojave Desert Al, they interchange with
Union Pacific and yes they do have some coal, but don't know
why. Thank you for taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
This brings back memories of working up in the coal bunker in the boiler house. Gosh I miss firing coal. :( thanks for a another great video. :)
Glad you enjoyed S and it brought back some good memories for you. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks Dave 😊
Your welcome Frank. We really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Professor Dave rocks it again! Great video!
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Dale. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Hey Dave !!! Great & Thanks again !!👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed KB. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Great video, great info, thanks Dave
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Great video, Dave, Thank you. James.
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Thanks so much Dave. Another great video.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Donnie. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I really enjoy your explanation of the process.
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Great tour! THanks!!!
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Another fine video, Dave! With a new administration as a viable prospect, the hopes must be high for increased demand for your "all-natural" fuel! Best from Venice, FL!🚂
Thank you for the nice comment Paul and yes we shall see
what transpires in November. Really appreciate your
taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good
day my friend.
Very cool thanks Dave.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed this one Thomas. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks for sharing this really awesome video with us Dave. This is so much fun seeing how all of this works. You have a really awesome job. They sure are lucky to have you.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed William. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thank you Dave, this video was wonderful. I'm still planning to model a coal mine based on the Cumberland Mine on my N Scale T-Track modules and I really needed the information on how the harbor works. This was simply perfect!!! :-)
That's great to hear Gale, let me know if there is anything I can
help you with on doing that. Glad you enjoyed this one. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
First, Hi Dave, love that you love your work.
Thank you Dave, yes I do love this job. Really appreciate your
jumping right on the video and checking it out tonight! May
you have a very good day my friend.
Very interesting video, thank you Dave, and a big. Thank you for the company you work for.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Steve. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Hey Dave, great video. I was typing out a question about combustible dusts and you answered it while I was typing! Thanks again
See Matthew, great minds do think alike! Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
neat over head shots, so neat seeing items but so often distorted, or shadow distracted having
a huge shadow coming off of the buildings and items from above. great video, great learning
more about your organization operations. mundane things for employees, but very unique
for us outsiders that do not have access to see the operations. take care Dave!
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VERY cool Dave! Awesome! 😎👍
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Idk why, but somehow, I missed some of your videos! Loved this tour as well as the goo-goo air views. Ty for bringing this.
Thank you and glad you loved the tour Trena. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Imagine modeling this railroad. Dave would provide you with plenty of photo and video assistance. Excellent as always Dave!!
I am just starting modelling a line based on this thanks to Dave who has inspired me with all the info and detail views. It will be a while before I get it all built. I am starting at the mine end.
@@cedarcam That is awesome!! Good luck with this layout.
@@darnoldie Thank you. Dave has a 1:87 scale No 1 loco and a tamper built from a kit, it was after seeing these it got me thinking. I found both these and got some coal hoppers. I have already had some help from Dave and many screen shots saved.
There are several who are modeling it or a part of it darnoldie.
Hope they will send me videos and I can share them, Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Hi Dave & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks Dave & Friends Randy
Thank you Randy and glad you enjoyed. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Such a great vide, thanks Dave.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed Dave. We really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks for a very interesting video! There used to be a railroad called the Monongahela, but I think it eventually became part of Conrail (via Penn Central) and then part of Norfolk Southern (the split-up of Conrail). Anyway, I''ve never really been convince of the economics of barge transport. Take, for instance, your coal going from your mine to some eastern power station via La Belle. You mine the coal, load it onto a train, move it to the Monongahela River and transload it to barges. Tugs push or tow the loaded barges downriver (a very winding river) to La Belle (thankfully no locks), where the coal is unloaded and then loaded on to another train (NS or CSX) for delivery to the end user. That is quite a number of handling operations, together with very slow rail-to-barge, river travel and barge -to-rail operations. This must add considerably to the ex-mine cost of the coal and to the delivery time from mine to customer?
Your a right Paul at first glance it does seem very inefficient.
However we at Cumberland Mine RR do not interchange with
another RR so taking it to La Belle is our only current option to
get the coal on a Class 1 RR. Moving coal by barge is slow like
you say, but it is cheap. Barge companies don't have to pay
for river or lock maintenance, you and I pay for that via taxes. Railroad pay for their own track maintenance so that adds
significantly to the cost of transportation. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Great video, thanks for sharing this…. Stay safe and hydrated 😊😊😊
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Very interesting and informative video presentation Dave, I love it! Thanks!
Thank you Dave and glad you enjoyed . Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Another great video. I was watching another one from Lake superior where they were loading 'taconite' (the iron ore pellets) where they have a shuttle that pulls car up to a 'tipping' style dumper (sort of like rotary but not exactly) to tip them one at a time into a Great Lake frieghter. Then it's pushed on through to a sort of 'kick back' track with a switch to send the empties to another track. Another cool way to move bulk load from railroad car to waterway.
I've seen a video of them loading like that Mike, I sure would love
to see it in person sometime tho, it's a pretty neat process. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Wonderful, thank you for your constant efforts! Very educational. Keep well.and I look forward to more!
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Great informative video again! Thanks!
Appreciate the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Brian.Thanks so much for taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Cool video. Thanks 👍
Your certainly welcome and glad you enjoyed Don. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
I’m curious enough that I looked up the Cumberland Mine Railroad. Pennsylvania has a Department of Transportation map showing major highways and the various railroad lines. Once I figured out where the CM railroad was, I looked it up on Google Earth. I followed the RR from the mine all the way to the river. Very interesting for someone who spent his childhood and adolescence in a small Southwestern Utah town, elevation ~2,500 ft., at the intersection of the Mohave Desert, Colorado Plateau, and Great Basin. Closest RR was a Union Pacific spur running into Cedar City, Utah, some 50+ miles away and ~5,700 elevation. I mostly saw trains at Cajun Pass during the occasional trips to visit paternal grandparents in San Diego. Quite exciting for a small-town boy!
Pretty interesting view from GE of the track Lee. I have a track geometry report in GE and some time will show it. It's really
cool. Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Hi Dave great show thank you, I went on Google earth a few weeks ago, and followed your track from the prep plant to the harbour. And about half way along I could see you out on your tamper
Oh wow how cool is that Matthew! That would have been me for
sure, no one else here knows how to run the tamper. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
This reminds me of the old coal plant that I worked on back in the eighties wagons tipping coal and air blowing it up to the boiler house,fantastic job Dave sorry I’m late but things are a bit hectic here my regards to you and your wife as always my friend.
Hope things settle down, but hectic is better than laying 6 feet
under looking up wishing things were hectic again. Yep power
plants blow the coal into the boilers. Thanks so much for checking out the coal show my friend.
Hi Dave. Great video! My step daughter works at the Lock and Dam at Maxwell. I’ve seen your harbor from across the river.
Hopefully the river will get back to its necessary level.
A lot of American rivers are below levels.
Have a great day!
How cool is that Johnathan, wonder if she could give me a tour
of Maxwell sometime. I understand government regs may forbid
that tho, so not that big of a deal. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Another great 🎥 big boy 👍
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Wow so Happy For You Dave, Your Growing with over 75k subscribers. If anyone Deserves it, You Definitely Do. As I Said Before thee BEST Railway channel on UA-cam. Thanks again
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Awesome video!! I dump coal from NS at a duke facility in nc, it cool to put a picture with the location names on the paperwork. Glad I found your channel!
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Does the Coast Guard give the barge loaders a daily report on how heavy they can load the barges?
Great video as always, Dave. You are educating everyone on stuff people would never get to learn unless they worked it.
We have a special person here whose job it it to coordinate
barge traffic Will. The Coast Guard is in contact with her and then
she relays info on how heavy or lite to load the barges to the
harbor foreman who relays that info to the barge loader. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
I enjoy all your videos. They are very informative
That's really great to hear Paul. We need more folks like you.... :-)
Another very interesting video!
Thank you and glad you enjoyed. We really appreciate your taking
the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day.
Thank you Dave! It was very interesting seeing how things are laid out around your railroad and the barge loading docks, thank you for another interesting video!
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Went to PA in 04 for the honeymoon, Scotrun area.Now that I am divorced, would love to see more of the state. NEAT stuff! Thank you!
If your over this way SW Pa. then let me know Bill. This is a nice
part of the state to visit although tourism isn't much of a big
thing here, just lots of hills. Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.