Great Mudlarking Finds! Ancient Gold + Silver + RARE GEMS In The Sand!

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  • @michimelody4036
    @michimelody4036 2 роки тому +27

    Being chronically ill and my body not able to do these things(even though I REALLY want to), I get to live vicariously through you ladies with your videos. Thank you for taking me on another adventure from my bed 💙 you have no idea how much I appreciate it and the other mudlarkers too. It's like a non stop adventure when I'm in pain it really helps take my mind off things.

    • @sticklebacksummer
      @sticklebacksummer 2 роки тому +4

      Wishing you all the best, please look after yourself.

    • @kenzieconnolly777
      @kenzieconnolly777 2 роки тому +3

      Me too!

    • @michimelody4036
      @michimelody4036 2 роки тому +4

      @@kenzieconnolly777 I hope you remember to build your ladder (if you don't know what that is go watch Simon and Martina's build a ladder video it helped me so much) focus on what you got accomplished and even if you only went from your bed to the bathroom to the kitchen and back today, you did that and that's awesome! Keep your chin up darling, we are making the best of a bum body lottery but we are still here.*gentle hugs*

    • @vivsalittlebitcrafty4854
      @vivsalittlebitcrafty4854 2 роки тому +4

      I'm the same, Michi Melody. It's great being able to still get 'out and about' through others isn't it? 🥰

    • @tuahiwi39
      @tuahiwi39 8 місяців тому +1

      You have explained exactly how I feel. Thank you❤. Fibromyalgia is very debilitating, and these Lovely Ladies allow me to travel on amazing adventures. I can’t really put into words the welcome freedom their joyful discoverings bring me.
      My love to the many who are in the same position. Pain will not keep us locked inside our mind when beautiful people make videos like this.
      Thank you Fleur and Kate ❤

  • @charlesperez9976
    @charlesperez9976 2 роки тому +2

    You live in a world,such a world,ages old,and,I live in the new world.
    I happily envy this old world,where you discover things that I can only dream about.
    All of you,over there across an ocean,your waters,they give such lovely gifts!❤️

  • @FrisianLunatic
    @FrisianLunatic 2 роки тому +59

    This channel really makes me feel at home even though i've never met you two. Thank you both ❤️

  • @charlesperez9976
    @charlesperez9976 2 роки тому +1

    The beads,this is a language that I speak.
    Purchased,not found,unfortunately.
    But I have thousands,and they speak to me,telling stories of trade and desire,and the seeking of a beautiful bauble,in exchange for another thing,equally beautiful.
    This is the language of beadfolk.
    You speak it,too.

  • @jennisharp4761
    @jennisharp4761 2 роки тому +3

    Maybe you could fashion a rocking horse for the dolls nursery using the horse head?

  • @mareeholt7622
    @mareeholt7622 2 роки тому +2

    Australian Federation Medal
    Your little bowl would be a cute fishbowl!

  • @wendyharper2154
    @wendyharper2154 2 роки тому +3

    Hi All let’s see if we can get the number of subscribers up to 25,000. The ladies deserve more subscribers and viewers for their very entertaining and interesting channel. I certainly learn heaps each week.

  • @janiebennett5645
    @janiebennett5645 2 роки тому +2

    WOW!!, WOW!!, WOW!!!! What a day, you two had and it's only just begun for us watchers!! So many terrific finds!! I was waiting patiently for you to mention the buckle you found, Kate....but alas, you didn't mention it. Is it from a shoe??...a belt?? I wonder who wore it and where they were going? The history of each item you bring alive, takes us back to a time, multitudes have forgotten, or dismissed. Thank you for waking up that part of history for so many. I appreciate you taking us along on your fabulous journey! I know how difficult it is to video, edit and script it, then put it all together. The hours you dedicate to teaching us about so many different and epic times of the world. Thank you again. xx ❤
    PS. Fleur, your hands are so beautiful, do you have a special cream you use? Thanks!
    Smoochies and hugs to Mr. Sunny Cat.... and a big "Hello" to Oscar!

  • @meloniemurillo2885
    @meloniemurillo2885 2 роки тому +4

    The little glass bowl looks like a miniature fish bowl.

  • @kathrynsymonds9455
    @kathrynsymonds9455 2 роки тому +2

    I make Bedfordshire lace with bobbins like your beautiful collection

  • @denisepiekarski4159
    @denisepiekarski4159 2 роки тому +2

    The glass pot would make a nice goldfish bowl.

  • @mleshoestar777
    @mleshoestar777 2 роки тому +4

    The way you said "the tides coming in" was so ominous...saddest words spoken by a mudlark I guess 🙁 looks like you had a good day anyway ☺

  • @kentuckylady2990
    @kentuckylady2990 2 роки тому +4

    Maybe you could make a toy rocking horse for the dolls house. The nursery also needs full doll size rocking horse with a dump doll astride.

  • @tlady422
    @tlady422 2 роки тому +3

    The little green glass ball could be used for a green apple in the doll hous

  • @kathryndeloria1834
    @kathryndeloria1834 2 роки тому +3

    Regarding that coin with the square hole,they used to make sewing baskets and hang a couple of those coins and a tassel on them .

  • @phylliswilliamstn
    @phylliswilliamstn 2 роки тому +7

    Maybe ask Richard Hemery about reporting your find? It’s incredible…all the meaning behind it and the occasion for which it was presented…who owned it…mind blowing

  • @laurafayolle7774
    @laurafayolle7774 2 роки тому +3

    That "thing" that looks like part of a bobbin, it also looks like a tip of a parasol (those tips the umbrellas and parasol have all around)

  • @amandasworld3085
    @amandasworld3085 2 роки тому +2

    That crab is stalking you 😮

  • @tonywild1963
    @tonywild1963 2 роки тому +21

    Wow, those finds were unbelievable and to have such a history to. That coin really did bring you both luck, and to find a complete lead soldier with the red paint showing. If this is the start, I can't imagine what else you found.
    Thank you and enjoy your week

  • @MillieOsborne
    @MillieOsborne 2 роки тому +2

    Who else loves gobbies? ❤️🇨🇦❤️

  • @iamshotty
    @iamshotty 2 роки тому +2

    I LOVE the detail in that dress your Great Great Grandmother is wearing! So clever how they used to make lace back then. Fabulous finds as always my lovelies, thank you xx Teresa 🇦🇺❤

  • @rockreader4298
    @rockreader4298 2 роки тому +2

    Wow! A great day and unique treasures! Congrats to you Kate, on that spectacular metal! The small, plump jar you found Fleur, would be the perfect candidate to copper foil and use as a kitchen pot in one of the doll houses, eh? Kate, when you picked up that bead at twenty one: fifty three on the timeclock, I was surprised and sad that you missed that perfect rectangle-shaped piece of yellow glass, knowing it is one of your favorite colors, but spotting that sweet lace bobbin and family story made up for it. Perhaps you two could use your broken beads to make mosaics for the doll houses, such as a flowerpot or plate for the wall, decorate a dresser, headboard or anything really. Mosaics have been used for eons, so could be used for any era, and they're fun. Loved the lead (mini clock, perfect to make a mold of and mosaic around it?) The horse heads will be very handy and of course, Fleur's standing soldier, completely complete, as you said, even original paint remained. ( :

  • @Merylstreep1949
    @Merylstreep1949 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you to my two ♥️ favorite mudlarking ladies
    Ad an American in the midwest USA I find your voices wonderful and even a bit intoxicating! Keep making these wonderful videos. Funny to think before I discovered you I didn't even know about mudlarking.
    Much love to you ❤️ 💛 💙

  • @MeganM616
    @MeganM616 2 роки тому +1

    The green glass blob would be a beautiful perfume bottle for the dolls house. ❤

  • @mellomelo119
    @mellomelo119 2 роки тому

    Oh what lovely finds. I'm sure you must be so excited. I'm excited for you. Lovely finds for lovely ladies !! !! !!

  • @amandabell8827
    @amandabell8827 2 роки тому +4

    Omg! I would definitely take the gold/silver coin and the Chinese coin to the FLO and find out for sure what they are. If you do, please give us an update, how exciting! Love the family history, great video Ladies 😃💗 x

  • @Julianne955
    @Julianne955 2 роки тому +3

    As soon as you put up the picture of your ancestor, there was no doubt she was yours Fleur! You have a striking resemblemce to her. Ladies, this was one amazing hunt, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the finds! Wow! Have a wonderful week Kate and Fleur!

  • @MermaidGunner
    @MermaidGunner Рік тому

    Thank you soooooo much for not using clickbait thumbnails! Too many channels do that and it instantly makes me not watch the video lol

  • @JonFrumTheFirst
    @JonFrumTheFirst 2 роки тому +9

    Yea! The pleasure of commonplace finds is entirely understandable, but it's nice to hit the proverbial jackpot occasionally.
    And thank you for teaching us about Butlins - new to this American. Exactly the kind of thing that every Brit probably takes for granted, but extremely few Americans would know about. While both think they know all about each other from watching television.

  • @crhaydenify
    @crhaydenify 2 роки тому +2

    You should make a collage of all the broken doll faces you've found and picture frame it. Now that would be cool.🥰

  • @kristidavis9945
    @kristidavis9945 2 роки тому +5

    I always say what fabulous finds you find. But you two really out did yourselves with this trip that for sure. I mean come on a over 400 year old coin, an over 300 year old medal of silver and gold, a cap badge with all the enamel still on , the tiny miniature clock face I mean I can’t even wrap my head around just these finds and you say there’s a lot more to come. It’s a good thing your splitting it all up or I might not be able to take it all in. Lol congratulations on sure a wonderful day for the two of you!

  • @wmarian5027
    @wmarian5027 2 роки тому +2

    i think it should be reported, a triumphant find! Most old treasures are probably broken in some ways. This was a lovely day of unique finds, thank you for sharing.

  • @buttonupimstitching
    @buttonupimstitching 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for another great video. Just a possibility, but the Australian and Kiwi soldiers who served at Gallipoli had an A for ANZAC on their uniform, when serving in the next theatre of the WWI. Love the lace tatting stuff.

  • @amysoozette
    @amysoozette 2 роки тому +3

    I think that the 'lace bobbin' could also be a tip on an umbrella edge.

    • @nickandlaurihyde
      @nickandlaurihyde 2 роки тому

      THAT’S IT!!!! I KNEW I recognized that shape before! So it’s not a bobbin bit. Oh well. Think of the historical family research we would have missed out on had Kate not fallen down the wrong rabbit hole!
      There are NO MISTAKES. Only experience.

  • @r.vancil129
    @r.vancil129 2 роки тому +7

    Wow, what special finds! That soldier and that shield would be perfect for the study. I will have a difficult time waiting for the next episode!

  • @heidiavera5071
    @heidiavera5071 2 роки тому +2

    That clear container would look great with a clear glass lid

  • @Parsley96
    @Parsley96 2 роки тому +7

    I’ve never clicked on a new video notification so quickly!!❤❤❤❤❤

  • @aliciakreisler3246
    @aliciakreisler3246 2 роки тому +1

    It’s raining here in Maine on a chilly Tuesday morning and to my great joy I’m able to watch two of my favorite ppl on UA-cam ❣️ Thanks for bringing sunshine to my day😊

  • @LynneWright
    @LynneWright 2 роки тому +1

    You will find Chinese coins with Peking glass beads decorating Victorian round sewing boxes. They usually are not super rare, but maybe you have a treasure.

  • @peteraffinass
    @peteraffinass 2 роки тому +5

    14:46 for those beads, you could carry a needle and thread with you, so you won't loose them

    • @moladhdodhia164
      @moladhdodhia164 2 роки тому

      Well that's a great idea, never would have thought of that, I was thinking scotch tape.

    • @jennisharp4761
      @jennisharp4761 2 роки тому +2

      Or a safety pin maybe

    • @moladhdodhia164
      @moladhdodhia164 2 роки тому +1

      @@jennisharp4761, Even better idea !!

    • @peteraffinass
      @peteraffinass 2 роки тому +1

      @@jennisharp4761 that also possible 👍 but if you find too many beads... 🙈

  • @kerrykuss642
    @kerrykuss642 2 роки тому +2

    Glorious treasures! What an amazing day of mud larking. I think about how you find those treasures and save them for how many more hundreds of years? It is so much better to have the actual piece than just a picture of it. People used to throw them away when they had no more use for them. What are we throwing away that people a hundred years from now are going to be thrilled to find? Maybe the hoarders have the right idea. Hah!

  • @catherinelange5109
    @catherinelange5109 2 роки тому +1

    That medal definitely classes as treasure - well done! The FLOs never mind if you contact them to check things if you aren’t sure - just drop an email over with clear photos. A great selection of finds.

  • @clairbaker3566
    @clairbaker3566 2 роки тому +2

    Oooh so many beautiful little things! That first horses head that fleur found is screaming to be made into a minature hobby horse 🐎! Amazing video again ladies, thank you xxx

  • @doloresandruchow9502
    @doloresandruchow9502 2 роки тому +2

    Wow the sea gods are smiling on you two lovelies hugs

  • @cdmikie
    @cdmikie 2 роки тому +1

    Your lucky coin certainly lived up to its name! For the gold piece, I would shoot off an email and see what comes of it, at least then you are covering your bases. Have a good week!

  • @heidiavera5071
    @heidiavera5071 2 роки тому +2

    My great grandmother was born in 1901 and yours was beautiful

    • @juneyshu6197
      @juneyshu6197 2 роки тому +1

      My Daddy was born in 1910, haha.

    • @nickandlaurihyde
      @nickandlaurihyde 2 роки тому

      @@juneyshu6197 So was mine! And my mom in 1916. I’m 64, and when I was growing up, people thought they were my grandparents.

  • @josephinegray5141
    @josephinegray5141 2 роки тому

    I REALLY LIKE THE WAY YOU EACH SHOWS YOUR FINDS AS YOU FIND THEM AND TELL US WHAT IT IS THEN WHEN YOU GET IT CLEANED WE CAN SEE SO MUCH BETTER WHAT IT IS.I LOVE THE WAY YOU TWO DO YOUR VIDEOS IT MAKES US FEEL SO MUCH CLOSER TO YOU TWO, AND I LOVE YOUR ACCENTS.

  • @tlady422
    @tlady422 2 роки тому +5

    I got so excited when this popped
    I have been going backwards and watching all your videos
    Just love them
    Same with Northern Mudlarks (watching their videos is how I discovered yours)

  • @shepherd4406
    @shepherd4406 2 роки тому +2

    Good evening ladies. Hope you are enjoying the beautiful Fall season.

  • @raebaggen2099
    @raebaggen2099 7 місяців тому

    Your tiny horse head would make a fun stick horse for your miniature doll house.

  • @vickyroy1877
    @vickyroy1877 2 роки тому +1

    Thankyou for cheering me up ❤ I’m poorly in bed this week but your video has really made me smile xxx

  • @fairyacorn4854
    @fairyacorn4854 2 роки тому +9

    OOOooooo can't wait for the next video in this three. What interesting things you came home with. The half medal is wonderful and just think how old it is. You are both very clever girls to find such wonderful things. Stay safe and keep crafting.💗

  • @pennyhoward3438
    @pennyhoward3438 2 роки тому +12

    Thank you Ladies for sharing your wonderful finds! I enjoy your channel so much.

  • @derekodriscoll7178
    @derekodriscoll7178 2 роки тому +1

    My Job involves me getting on my knees inspecting vehicles, you can purchase decent knee pads for a few £'s in budget shops (such as Poundland etc) would make beach foraging way more comfortable 🧐

  • @salishseaquest7952
    @salishseaquest7952 2 роки тому +27

    Yes, better to be safe -- contact your FLO! What a great first installment of this mudlarking adventure.

    • @amyjensen7917
      @amyjensen7917 2 роки тому +2

      Please, what is the FLO?

    • @salishseaquest7952
      @salishseaquest7952 2 роки тому +2

      @@amyjensen7917 Finds Liaison Officer from the Museum.

    • @janvafa9959
      @janvafa9959 2 роки тому +1

      Agree! Better to be safe and sure than have something happen later that puts you in trouble!

  • @catepearce2138
    @catepearce2138 2 роки тому +6

    Great day out, wow. I think you both have x-ray eyes. Well done on all the exciting finds, its difficult to chooses a favourite - and there is more to come!!! Looking forward to your future videos, have a great weekxx

  • @sapphonymph8204
    @sapphonymph8204 2 роки тому +3

    I believe it's real! WOOHOO!

  • @Kate-tq7kb
    @Kate-tq7kb 2 роки тому +1

    I need to thank you, so very much, for your incredible videos. Each time I view them, I am amazed at their beauty and the opportunities to learn something new. I find them relaxing and exciting at the same time. When the video reaches its end, I feel as if I have been on a little vacation. You bring joy and inspiration to my life. Thank you!

  • @missmerrily4830
    @missmerrily4830 2 роки тому

    Although I'm an avid viewer of your channel I don't usually comment but felt compelled to do so after you discovered the fastener at 21:30. As you showed it I thought "wow, you've found part of a tiny dolls house fire grate". Obviously not, but I think it would make a very nice one!

  • @martinclemesha4794
    @martinclemesha4794 2 роки тому +2

    Hi, Just to cover yourselves, why not just e-mail a pic of your broken find to your local flo ? Their reply may give more guidance on similar finds in the future. All the best.

  • @tiaking2002
    @tiaking2002 2 роки тому +2

    The hole isn’t close enough to the end for it to be a lace bobbin. As others have suggested, it looks more like part of a parasol.

  • @joanware6473
    @joanware6473 2 роки тому +1

    Wow what lovely finds.

  • @moladhdodhia164
    @moladhdodhia164 2 роки тому +3

    Gary Drayton from Oak Island on the History channel started out Mudlarking beaches, now he's a millionaire.

  • @shepherd4406
    @shepherd4406 2 роки тому +2

    As to the half coin, I think it is always better to be safe than sorry. Oh this was very interesting. Looking forward to next installments.

    • @helenamirian908
      @helenamirian908 2 роки тому

      My local museum has had half artifacts in it before! :) They were pre-Columbian gold, but still.

  • @kerrindrawdy2017
    @kerrindrawdy2017 2 роки тому +2

    AWESOME finds! I wonder if Mrs. Fleur's tiny glass pot could become a fishbowl for one of the dollhouses since it's clear? I'm not certain of the "invention date" of the household fishbowl . . . 🤔 Happy larking to you this week! 😊❤️

    • @nickandlaurihyde
      @nickandlaurihyde 2 роки тому

      Great idea for a fishbowl!! Now to find a miniature fish!

  • @AmandaSnow-di6mp
    @AmandaSnow-di6mp Рік тому

    wow, GOLD. ... A medal and so beautiful. love you two, love your videos, so interesting and so much to learn. xx

  • @AnnaAnna-uc2ff
    @AnnaAnna-uc2ff 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you.

  • @beckyjo8745
    @beckyjo8745 2 роки тому +3

    GREAT FINDS!!! I would still report that half a badge just to be safe. The dynasty coin looks very real to me!! Amazing finds!!

  • @babyrazor6887
    @babyrazor6887 2 роки тому +7

    Nice finds! I'd be metal detecting that spot for sure.

  • @kathryndeloria1834
    @kathryndeloria1834 2 роки тому +1

    Love the larks when we see all the bits on the ground.

  • @debrabrooks6138
    @debrabrooks6138 2 роки тому +1

    Such wonderful finds and such a great History! amazing how things can last so long ! I also noticed a lot of common opal all about , the glass amber stones well there are many colors of Common opal I see there and chert! Awesome area to hunt!

  • @debbieseidler4733
    @debbieseidler4733 2 роки тому +1

    Wow so many treasures. I also like the whole tin soldier and the little clock. Look forward to see more from your fab day.

  • @sisD
    @sisD 2 роки тому +4

    Such great finds! How exciting and rich with History. The complete lead toy, coins and gold medal! 🥳. Thanks for sharing your adventure. 🌹

  • @sheilastewart5662
    @sheilastewart5662 2 роки тому +1

    that little ball end thing looks more like an end cap for a bolo tie

  • @teresahamilton7801
    @teresahamilton7801 2 роки тому

    amazing how little broken bits tell such big stories from our past thanx for sharing.

  • @cherylswanson275
    @cherylswanson275 2 роки тому +5

    I think it would be so neat for you to repaint some of those lead figures especially the horse that you just found

  • @moladhdodhia164
    @moladhdodhia164 2 роки тому +2

    How does a tooth end up on a beach, and amazing that you even came across it.

  • @ChristopherCirillo
    @ChristopherCirillo 2 роки тому +8

    What a magnificent bunch of finds! I am intrigued and can hardly wait to see what’s coming next from this remarkable day of discovery. Thank you for taking us all with you!

  • @buttons3232
    @buttons3232 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic! 💖🇺🇸😁

  • @cathymora9106
    @cathymora9106 2 роки тому +2

    You're my favorite mudlarkers. Love your videos and definitely love the dolls houses.

  • @piligarcia4771
    @piligarcia4771 Рік тому

    That piece of glass with leaf veins could be used to make the leaf marks on clay leaves, I have one for when I make porcelain flowers, sometimes I even use rose leaves to produce the same effect.

  • @guadalupeknippen528
    @guadalupeknippen528 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic treassures. 🌻🐕🥰🇺🇸

  • @StarSystemAndromeda
    @StarSystemAndromeda 2 роки тому +2

    Ladies, my heart is pumping fast at your exciting finds!! I am so unbelievably delighted for you!! I cannot wait for the next two video installments!! AND you must go back to that beach and find more treasure!! Thank you so much for sharing your adventures! 💝💝

  • @juneyshu6197
    @juneyshu6197 2 роки тому +1

    Blessings, Ladies. You do have the most marvelous camera work.

  • @sticklebacksummer
    @sticklebacksummer 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing finds, great episode. Your lead soldiers reminded me of my mum she would paint lead soldiers and we would try and help, it was a way of earning a little money when things were tight,they had to be perfect or they were rejected.

  • @mollyswan-sheeran2670
    @mollyswan-sheeran2670 2 роки тому +7

    Continuing to be fabulous! Can't wait for the further adventures. XOXO

  • @denisew3917
    @denisew3917 2 роки тому +1

    Epic finds, and brilliant history. Appreciate all the hard work in making your videos. The glass jar would make a cute fish bowl for the doll’s house if it’s small enough.

  • @noelani240
    @noelani240 2 роки тому +1

    The I Ching or feng shui coin is good luck !! They also use the coins for divination

  • @christineingram55
    @christineingram55 2 роки тому +1

    Wow what exciting finds this time.The old Chinese coin brought you some good luck this time.The gold on Silver part medal is a fabulous find.All that time in the sea and sand,and it’s still looking good.Will you let us know what they say when you report the find ?..Keep up the great work ,and thank you for taking us along..Love n Light 🥰

  • @kimberlymolitor354
    @kimberlymolitor354 2 роки тому +8

    What terrific finds!!! Love the family history connection to the lace bobbin.Great way of making history more real and accessible. 🥰🥰🥰

  • @ciaramccotter6306
    @ciaramccotter6306 Рік тому

    Love your Videos what a brilliant find I would call the Museum just to be on the safe side and your Relationship is so cute Love you guys ❤

  • @marshacrom6206
    @marshacrom6206 2 роки тому

    Amazing. Every time I watch you two finding all those great things, I want to go too.

  • @melaniefisher8823
    @melaniefisher8823 2 роки тому +1

    Exxxxxxciting to the upcoming videos!!! Eeeeeks, I can't wait!!

  • @Erintube360
    @Erintube360 2 роки тому +9

    Congratulations on such an epic Lark! I loved all your finds and the stories behind them. Really looking forward to seeing what other treasures you two discovered!

  • @tinynina76
    @tinynina76 2 роки тому

    What gorgeous finds! It is fun to hear about your research, too. Bless you both for providing us with this rich content!

  • @LancashireLarks
    @LancashireLarks 2 роки тому +1

    Really nice medal. Great find. Love the name lead army too 👍

  • @denisepiekarski4159
    @denisepiekarski4159 2 роки тому +1

    Such exciting finds! Kate, your manicure in the roundup was exquisite.

  • @yomama8873
    @yomama8873 2 роки тому +1

    Great finds thank you 🤩🤩🤩💖💖💖💖

  • @cherrypi_b
    @cherrypi_b 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome finds, esp. the medal and the Chinese coin! Maybe you can ask a collector about their age and worth. I'd love to know the websites where you do your research on stuff like this. Do you have some go-to web addresses for this? Also, I'd love a behind the scenes video how you clean all your finds. Where do you soak the coins in for example?

  • @margaretlynch1494
    @margaretlynch1494 2 роки тому +2

    🙋‍♀️❤ There's a chance that the silver/ gold Luther piece may have been halved, and used as currency in casual transaction...in the spirit of pieces of 8.