F1 Brands Hatch Grand Prix of Europe 1983 'Turbo' V 'Aspirated' cars
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- Опубліковано 21 січ 2015
- Action from the Grand Prix of Europe Meeting at Brands Hatch 1983 (Plus a little footage of the test days)
Featuring all the top cars and Drivers of the time including Nigel Mansell Lotus94T Nelson Piquet Brabham BT2B Alain Prost Renault RE40 Dereck Warwick, Andrea De Cesaris, Riccardo Patrese, Eddie Cheever, Manfred Winklehock, Rene Arnoux, Patrick Tambay, Michelle Alboreto, Danny Sullivan. A battle between the 'Turbo' Cars and the 'Normally Aspirated' cars which the turbo's ultimately won.The turbo era really began here producing some of the most powerful F1 cars ever. - Авто та транспорт
blimey this take me back to my first ever Grand Prix as a 17 year old (I live about 20 mins from Brands) . I still think how lucky I was to see GP racing through what I consider to be it's golden years 👍
I was there. The cosworths were so loud compared to the turbo cars. Hurt my ears when they passed by.
Almost walked straight into Murray Walker, James Hunt and Niki Lauda all together walking towards me. Outside the paddock, all three just walking through the crowd nobody bothering them. I was awestruck by that.
It doesn’t really get better than this Barry, it’s like being there! Amazing.
This was late September and still red hot if memory serves.Nelson’s race winning Brabham is beautiful ❤
I was there Barry, man I just think this video is amazing !
Pretty special stuff mate, it brings so many memories back to me.
I was a young man back then and thought that one day I would drive in F1. LOL!!
A magical sound!! Really, many thanks for this mate.
Barry, this footage captures perfectly the raw, explosive power of the turbocharged engines of the time. Heard through a Bose system, the audio is intoxicating.
Cheers Aaron, the Turbo cars were just 'Awesome' pure power.The were very quick and spectacular to watch......regards Barry
The aspirated cars sound so much better...this is thew last year they were competitive, but despite the crazy HP of the turbos I always thought they sounded bad, 1989 was so awesome when they made a full comeback.
I'm a geezer Yank who saw Rindt win his first GP at Watkins Glen 5 October 1969. (Took a nice pic of Tex Hopkins mid-leap dropping the chequered flag.) How I'd have loved seeing F1 at Brands. Circulating alone, somewhat "casually" as here, the engines' brute power really comes through; the cars are more visceral, uninsulated by the race's procession. Also helps that you're right beside the track! Great footage.
This is the drivers list in order of appearance.
1) Elio De Angelis (Lotus Renault),
2) Michele Alboreto (Tyrrell Ford Cosworth),
3) Nelson Piquet (Brabham BMW),
4) Alboreto again,
5) Eddie Cheever on number 15 Prost's car maybe his spare car (Renault),
6) Piquet and Alboreto,
7) This is a hard one. Completely white car. I strongly suspect judging by the helmet that this is Marc Surer with his Arrows Ford Cosworth without any ads painted.
8) Patrick Tambay (Ferrari),
9) Piquet again,
10) Tambay,
11) Alboreto,
12) This is a tricky one. At a first sight it seems to be the Williams Ford Cosworth numer 2 of Jacques Laffite. But judging by the helmet it doesn't seem to be the regular complete black helmet of the frenchman. And considering that this is Jonathan Palmer's debut race (there were 3 Williams on this race) I suspect this is Palmer driving Lafitte's spare car for this session. This is probably Thursday or Friday morning session.
13) Jean-Pierre Jarier (Ligier Ford Cosworth),
14) Alain Prost (Renault),
15) Cheever (seems he was on the same car Prost was driving before and it is the car number 15 maybe Prost's spare car and this is also the car number 15 on the appearance believe it or not !),
16) White car. Impossible to say. Followed by Alboreto.
17) Tambay,
18) Jarier,
19) Keke Rosberg (Williams Ford Cosworth) followed by Prost,
20) Cheever again using Prost's spare car I suspect. Amazingly you can see the red number 15 but when the car is taking the corner you can see on the other side of the car the blue number 16 !! So that Renault had two different numbers on it !!! This is on 2:40 of this footage.
21) Laffite
22) Rosberg
23) Tambay
24) Laffite
25) Rosberg
26) Andrea De Cesaris (Alfa Romeo)
27) Rosberg
28) Cheever
29) De Angelis
30) Jarier
31) Rosberg
32) De Angelis
33) Bruno Giacomelli (Toleman Hart)
34) Danny Sullivan (Tyrrell Ford Cosworth)
35) An Arrows followed by John Watson (McLaren TAG Porsche)
36) Rene Arnoux (Ferrari) followed by Prost
37) Nigel Mansell (Lotus Renault)
38) Rosberg
39) Manfred Winkelhock (ATS BMW)
40) Cheever
41) Jarier
42) Roberto Guerrero (Theodore Ford Cosworth)
43) Niki Lauda (McLaren TAG Porsche)
44) Jonathan Palmer (Williams Ford Cosworth number 42)
45) Raul Boesel (Ligier Ford Cosworth)
46) De Cesaris
47) Riccardo Patrese (Brabham BMW)
48) Cheever followed by Sullivan
49) Tambay followed by Teo Fabi's younger brother Corrado Fabi (Osella Alfa Romeo)
50) Guerrero
51) De Cesaris
52) Thierry Boutsen (Arrows Ford Cosworth) followed by Patrese
53) Winkelhock
54) Cheever on his number 16 Renault
55) Corrado Fabi
56) Guerrero
57) Arnoux
58) De Angelis followed by Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella Alfa Romeo), Patrese and Boutsen
59) Cheever followed by Watson
60) Palmer and Winkelhock passes by on his right
61) Piquet
62) Arnoux
63) Fabi
64) Giacomelli
65) Winkelhock
66) Piquet
67) Palmer
68) Jarier
69) An Arrows passes by followed by a McLaren and the white car number 17 from North Irishman Kenny Acheson (RAM March Ford Cosworth) while Sullivan passes by on his left.
70) Prost surpassing the car number 40 of Stefan Johansson (Spirit Honda)
71) Boutsen
Then boxes footage starts
72) Watson
73) Alboreto
74) Boesel entering the pits
75) Watson
76) Laffite
77) Laffite again
78) Sullivan
79) Boesel
80) Sullivan
81) Fabi followed by Arnoux both entering the pits
82) Johansson
83) Sullivan
84) Boesel
85) Derek Warwick (Toleman Hart) folowed by Guerrero
86) Laffite followed by Johansson
87) Sullivan
88) Winkelhock
89) Tambay
90) Sullivan followed by Piquet
91) A McLaren and a few seconds before Tambay passes by
92) Laffite
93) Sullivan
94) Piquet
95) Prost followed by Winkelhock
96) Marc Surer (Arrows Ford Cosworth)
97) Laffite
98) A Williams followed by Piquet
99) Alboreto
100) Cheever
101) Boutsen
102) Surer slowing down and Sullivan passes by on his left
103) Guerrero
104) Cheever
105) Guerrero and ahead of him was Johansson
106) Alboreto
107) Mansell
108) Prost
109) Watson
110) Jarier followed by PatreseUnfortnately there is no sights from the following drivers: Warwick and Ghinzani (barely shown) and Mauro Baldi (Alfa Romeo number 23)
I liked that white car
Fantastic footage Barry. I watched the race from Paddock with my Dad (£12.50 entry!). Brought back lovely memories.
Barry this is going to be a very big UA-cam hit my friend! I've put some old vids on here a few months back which my dad recorded and they are getting lots of hits. This era is gold dust!
I make you right Niki....its was a 'Golden Era' of Formula 1 and I am glad I was able to watch and video some of it.....some Awesome cars and for me some of the best F1 drivers around to drive them...........Men's cars driven By Men!.....I loved it and its nice to share it too........Regards Barry
Brabham BMW BT52 Turbo and Nelson Piquet, best duet in F1 history!
Mágico mesmo, apesar que Senna com a MP4/4 foi o mais dominante da história, só não dominou totalmente, porque tinha um tal de Allan Prost de companheiro !
Those were the days!!!
This was before I was even born; thanks for posting. Wish i was there to hear and feel it. These cars seemed to have more character and soul based on sound and behavior
Simply stunning! Thank you.
Awesome footage Barry!
I was there that weekend, an 8yo, my first and only Grand Prix. I still have the entry ticket : £3. I remember there was a saloon-car race for members of parliament (...), and the GP drivers did a parade lap in vintage cars. I would've been within spitting distance of you on the Saturday during qualifying, watching from track side as the cars took Paddock and then up past us to the entry for Druids.
Great footage!!! thank you very much
RESPECTFULLY, I LOVE YOU FOR THIS. PLEASE MORE, RESPECTIVELY. REAL F1
I still have plenty of F1 footage to post from the 'Turbo' era I will upload it as I transfer the footage from my Betamax Tapes............Regards Barry
THANK YOU SIR
Thanks for sharing all your fantastic f1 footage. Really love watching these.😎
Cool Les Paul....glad you like some of the old stuff..........cheers Barry
+Barry Price thanks I'm all about old School tones😎
Great footage, especially in the garage area. Where you see teams fix the cars and drivers walking around. It's unbelievable how close to the action you got to see.
F1 cars really got gnarly in this era
Brands - the true home of the British GP. Superb footage! Thanks for posting.
marsvltor2 Thank you marvltor2.........be great to see a Britsh Grand Prix at Brands again...........it was a great track for F1 Cars.
That`s the Sound, I miss so much !!!
Thanks Thomas.......great sounds of the Cosworth, and Turbo cars........glad you enjoyed the footage.....cheers Barry
Such a great noise of the raw power of those engines. Also great, but sad to see the drivers that we have lost over the years. Very good camera work as well.
Feels like an actual race... not some corporate bore fest that F1 is now... also no 16 year olds racing.
Couldn't agree more!
Michele Alboreto in the green Tyrrell with naturally aspirated Cosworth V8 and Keke Rosberg/Jacques Laffite in the Williams best sound. Also Johansson with the Ligier.
+sargatanas88 Thanks Sargatanas88 yes some great sounds from these 'Classic' F1 cars........regards Barry
Johansson drove a Spirit in 83 he did not drive for Ligier until 88
That's Danny Sullivan in the Tyrell. The Spirit/Honda was there! There's thousands at the track watching too!
sargatanas88 whatever the #33 car is. That’s the best sounding Cosworth out there
AWESOME... THANKS....
Beautiful. Pretty handy camera work also.
+PeterPaoPao Thanks Peter........Regards Barry
Was this the last time the Grand Prix show visited Brands Hatch proper - I remember this as a kid watching with my Dad the Cosworth screams out of clear ways corner I still remember......
Ben green 1986 British Grand Prix was the last at Brands. Track deemed too tight after Lafitte accident.
Another great video Barry....from the real peoples perspective!
Great stuff!
+Keegan Thanks Keegan........Regards Barry
Sweet dreams playing at the paddock
Como eram bonitos os carros da F1 !
o man this is epic
Thanks XyDtE K........amazing cars and sounds from F1 cars in 1983..........Regards Barry
Queria muito ter visto essas máquinas de perto !
that Tyrell looks so nimble and around druids i think was the quickest car there. obviously they didn't have the power in the fast sections and maybe with turbo power comes extra weight and slower slow corners
01:15 the Ferrari 126C3 looks like a scrunched up Ford Ford 1800 with wings. Unusual design by Postletwaite but it took the Constructors that year, so looks aren't everything
Hi Mark, Yes early days of development for the Turbo cars and they all looked very different to each other, Brabham, Renault, Lotus and Ferrari.........the turbo cars needed one thing 'Horspower', a big learning curve for everyone that year..........Regards Barry
The days when Britain had a real circuit. At least the final Brands race had a British winner...
"Normally aspirated" to be pedantic. Great vid though!
Number 4 Tyrell?
Hi Peter, yes #4 is the Tyrrell driven by American Driver Danny Sullivan........regards Barry
@@BarryPrice1959 yes it is, plenty of Cheever, I do not see Danny. I was @ Zandvoort 1983. Loved seeing Nikki in the TAG Porsche and Eddie in the Renault. Danny crashed out there.
Where's my downforce? Who took me skirts?
7:13. 🤌