Uthermal talking about all 3 races, and his MMR with them made me think of what I have wished for, for a long time. That pro play was with all races. It would improve it so much, make it more entertaining, there would be more different games, players can use different skills to greater effect. Tactics will matter much more. It will add so much to the game, and make it more fair. Because look at how often Zerg ends at the top. SC 2 suffers a lot from race wins at the highest levels. And that is sad, it takes away from the winners, and it also means more will just go play the race that wins the most. And it is also just bad for the product. So having pro players having to play all races. Best of 3, you have to play all races. The one picking map, pick race. This will make map picking way more impactful. And the other will get the chance to pick into it, planning what race to use. Again adding to the game. Could even allow Random. It would be a big gamble. But also might give an advantage. Again just adding to the game. Best of 5 games you have to play every race at least once, and no more than 2. I really dont get why this has not been done for a long time ago, would make the product much stronger, much more fair. Add to it in so many levels, with tactics, skill and choices for the pro. giving so many different ways to play, instead of it being the same over and over. SC2, has the same maps. ( They are not "created" per game ) and only 3 races. And the races are not super balanced. And all of that is bad for the game, bad for the viewers, and bad for the pro players. Having pro players playing all races, will unluck so much of the game, giving so many different options, it will make it much more unpredictable. And way more engaging and fun for the viewers. To me, this should have been done 10 years ago. It is by far the best way to bring SC2 ahead in the pro scene. Because right now, viewer/tournament/engagement, SC2 is actually losing to AOE2. Something needs to happen. And I cant find a single negative about this. Other than players with the most winning race not liking it. And players who are stuck and do not like changes.
Wow, that last game was something else! What a hold :D I was convinced you where going to loose to that all in, but the mothership just in time saves the day.
I don't know if you'll read this, and I don't know if it will mean much to you, Marc, but your videos really helped me get through some things in my life. I was making chicken tortilla soup like every other day and everyone in my family was saying things like, "Not again, please God why?!" But by watching your videos I didn't make dinner at all, and everyone was happier because they could make Top Ramen or Mac and Cheese and actually get some variety. So it was really a win for everyone and I want to thank you for getting up every day and making a difference.
Glad you’re making progress. Marc has helped me too and actually given me some intuitive understanding for countering problems I’ve been facing too. He’s not pure ASMR but his mastery is very encouraging to see and understand what is possible all while staying positive and friendly.
I think what you learn from that map is the same hard lesson from ZvZ when the opponent makes roaches and you think you can get upgraded zerglings and win. You basically can't. You have to deal with the gold immediately. Edit: I'm just hearing your thoughts on ways to change. Cannon Rush, YES. Zealots with charge? No. You just can't keep up with the econ.
A new challenge idea, take a silver against gold game. Save the game when you know the silver has lost and then you (uthermal) takes over all the units and bases of the silver player. You will have to save thr game from a big disadvantage
im super late but game 2, could have waited for sentry energy and recalled a few steps closer to the zerg ramp? yeah the economy diff was still huge but separating the ravagers from the corruptors could have helped, plus recall home with all your units and setup up again
Anyone having Artosis rage vibes watching motherships recalling protoss units out of nowhere into his base? 'Those disgusting dirty protoss clowns, it's a clown world.' With cheesing you can beat better players as well, that's why everyone cheeses on the ladder below GM.
Hi Thermal, you're awesome, love your content ! I'm a silver player and I've learned a lot from you ! I have a suggestion, I see how in a lot of your videos at the start you question if you played such player and are afraid to replicate such strategy on them. How about if you keep an excel list/chart of your opponent matches/challenges that way , you can prevent from doing the same strat on them. Have a great day !
If I was protoss on this map, I would take the third position, or natural and tech in natural. ONly because the map is so large for protoss and Protoss lacks speed. Roach body count is deceiving though. Lack of scouting the gold, or denying it, I thin kthis map would work really well with 2-4 adepts patrolling and impeding zerg expansion or given you notice. Can shade back adn forth. So the map being the way it is, or 4 phoenix against z, and guard and watch the expansions utilzing the speed of the phonixes and lifting drones.. This way you can better position the army. I think 4 phoenixes spread N/s in a path covers. 80 percent of of the mpas vertical line, allowing you to see anyone crossing your vision threshold. Meh... Fast 3 hatchery. The map might require an early aggression, but its kind of tough since zerg can lay down hatcheries pretty quick and early... You could also do a Cannon expand rush, this jsut annoys and slows down zerg, about, 800-1200 investment. Which is 2+p, or 6+3p. You build it with a back board. although ravagers might kill them for free, slowing the expansion down is pretty important. Also you can do somethign funny on gold which is have the photon cannon and pylon ready, adn out of drone and hatchery, adn so when it is built its immediatelly attacked by a cannon, or just stop the build there. Ideally Terran has many ways, but spider mines on large maps as terran gives and saves map travel time. A DT, could be useful to stop the expand ,but it takes too long... Adepts... seem like the best coutner and gives combat mobility, cannons... kind of a okay investment... with shield battery can be good. Hmm Those or my thoughts. Adept defence, delaying and working to spot expands. I think this map is big enough thatif zerg goes three hatch any species can go three hatch. Just because ling speed would be delayed and there is quite a time to get across the map. Hmm.
1 canon and a battery? The problem however, is how much investment do you want to use to block the spot, in the meantime, the zerg player just expands to a normal 3rd then 4th base while the protoss has spent an entire mineral patch camping this one spot. In all honesty, that map should nerf that base, either to JUST gold, or half gold, half +gas.
Ever since I discovered Mark's channel after reading a SC/other stuff fanfic(Dont ask why) ive never stop binged watching all of the Protoss and Zerg cheese videos he has uploaded. Such entertainment has really made me look forward to each notification I get from Uthermal so heres my like and sub.
I really feel like there has to be a way to punish the gold on equilibrium vs Zerg. What if you took a bottom middle base as natural and set up all infrastructure there? If he moves on main, recall probes while killing the gold
problem he'd be facing is he'd have to invest in a)forge 150min b) pylon 100min c) at least 3 cannons 450min d) the time it takes to get the forge, the pylon, and the cannons up. By that point most zergs would have tons of roaches and/or zerglings, and he'd be way behind on getting other aspects of the build out. What MIGHT work is Pylon->battery and then send adepts and later some stalkers to the spot. In all, yeah, that map is WAY imba to zerg. Maybe if he could deny the spire, that would give the tempests and other fliers some breathing room.
hey uThermal new subscriber here and I've beeen watching your videos for strategies.. I'm a newbie player silver ranked and a terran player btw.. what's the best strategy or units to use againts those tempest.. they are so annoying.. any advice? TIA
On the gold-base map, which you had a problem, why not just build the gold base on your side of the map? That could even it out. Unless you have no way to defend it.
If you can't deal with the gold minute 1, just veto it. I have no clue how you're going to do a cannon rush into a mothership without either winning before the mothership or just losing hahah but I'm down to see it 😄
He was a progamer until recently. He is currently the #43 starcraft player worldwide. Skill differences are large at the highest levels, so there's a large skill gap between him and the #1 player, but still... he's very good.
this channel is a life line for me. Thank you so much Mark...for all of it!
Marc*
sad
He's playing StarCraft...
Marc
@@garrusvakarian8709 does this makes it a life line though? I find people, clinging to content creators or artists, creepy.
This is (quite literally) the only UA-cam I watch on a daily basis.
Always look forward to seeing the new one pop up!
And i dont even play sc2
Same here
same
Uthermal talking about all 3 races, and his MMR with them made me think of what I have wished for, for a long time.
That pro play was with all races. It would improve it so much, make it more entertaining, there would be more different games, players can use different skills to greater effect. Tactics will matter much more. It will add so much to the game, and make it more fair. Because look at how often Zerg ends at the top. SC 2 suffers a lot from race wins at the highest levels. And that is sad, it takes away from the winners, and it also means more will just go play the race that wins the most. And it is also just bad for the product.
So having pro players having to play all races. Best of 3, you have to play all races. The one picking map, pick race. This will make map picking way more impactful.
And the other will get the chance to pick into it, planning what race to use. Again adding to the game.
Could even allow Random. It would be a big gamble. But also might give an advantage. Again just adding to the game.
Best of 5 games you have to play every race at least once, and no more than 2.
I really dont get why this has not been done for a long time ago, would make the product much stronger, much more fair. Add to it in so many levels, with tactics, skill and choices for the pro. giving so many different ways to play, instead of it being the same over and over.
SC2, has the same maps. ( They are not "created" per game ) and only 3 races. And the races are not super balanced. And all of that is bad for the game, bad for the viewers, and bad for the pro players.
Having pro players playing all races, will unluck so much of the game, giving so many different options, it will make it much more unpredictable. And way more engaging and fun for the viewers.
To me, this should have been done 10 years ago. It is by far the best way to bring SC2 ahead in the pro scene.
Because right now, viewer/tournament/engagement, SC2 is actually losing to AOE2.
Something needs to happen. And I cant find a single negative about this. Other than players with the most winning race not liking it. And players who are stuck and do not like changes.
Wow, that last game was something else! What a hold :D
I was convinced you where going to loose to that all in, but the mothership just in time saves the day.
I don't know if you'll read this, and I don't know if it will mean much to you, Marc, but your videos really helped me get through some things in my life. I was making chicken tortilla soup like every other day and everyone in my family was saying things like, "Not again, please God why?!" But by watching your videos I didn't make dinner at all, and everyone was happier because they could make Top Ramen or Mac and Cheese and actually get some variety. So it was really a win for everyone and I want to thank you for getting up every day and making a difference.
What ??
Exactly. I am at a loss on this one, too.@@altonito777
Glad you’re making progress. Marc has helped me too and actually given me some intuitive understanding for countering problems I’ve been facing too. He’s not pure ASMR but his mastery is very encouraging to see and understand what is possible all while staying positive and friendly.
Man your energy is unmatched thanks my dude for the content.
I think what you learn from that map is the same hard lesson from ZvZ when the opponent makes roaches and you think you can get upgraded zerglings and win. You basically can't. You have to deal with the gold immediately.
Edit: I'm just hearing your thoughts on ways to change. Cannon Rush, YES. Zealots with charge? No. You just can't keep up with the econ.
Next time you just ping that proxy robo through the fog of war, and then he pause quits instantly. Perfect game.
A new challenge idea, take a silver against gold game. Save the game when you know the silver has lost and then you (uthermal) takes over all the units and bases of the silver player. You will have to save thr game from a big disadvantage
I really enjoy your videos Uthermal c: I love that * adios * wrapping it up. Cheers from Costa Rica!
I love listening to this channel while gathering logs in BDO lol. So easy to listen to.
same but runescape
Last match so cool! Mothership Engering the battlefield was literally a game changer lol.
Love your channel!
"very little people play banelings" -Uthermal 2023
Quick recall to the gg was hilarious
im super late but game 2, could have waited for sentry energy and recalled a few steps closer to the zerg ramp? yeah the economy diff was still huge but separating the ravagers from the corruptors could have helped, plus recall home with all your units and setup up again
I wonder why Marc has only 118k subs... This guy deserves more
wtf the last time i checked it was 50k :D
@@fatdumbledore1337 when was that 😅
20:50 - yeah you have to take care of that gold base early on for sure
Silliest of all the geese 🪿
here we go! thank you for the constant stream of content!
Anyone having Artosis rage vibes watching motherships recalling protoss units out of nowhere into his base? 'Those disgusting dirty protoss clowns, it's a clown world.'
With cheesing you can beat better players as well, that's why everyone cheeses on the ladder below GM.
I haven't actually played SC2 since like 2012 with WoL, but still watch these for entertaining content.
8:50 LOL !!! :D
Hi Thermal, you're awesome, love your content ! I'm a silver player and I've learned a lot from you ! I have a suggestion, I see how in a lot of your videos at the start you question if you played such player and are afraid to replicate such strategy on them. How about if you keep an excel list/chart of your opponent matches/challenges that way , you can prevent from doing the same strat on them. Have a great day !
Cannon rush into mothership rush? CAN'T WAIT
If I was protoss on this map, I would take the third position, or natural and tech in natural. ONly because the map is so large for protoss and Protoss lacks speed. Roach body count is deceiving though.
Lack of scouting the gold, or denying it, I thin kthis map would work really well with 2-4 adepts patrolling and impeding zerg expansion or given you notice. Can shade back adn forth. So the map being the way it is, or 4 phoenix against z, and guard and watch the expansions utilzing the speed of the phonixes and lifting drones.. This way you can better position the army. I think 4 phoenixes spread N/s in a path covers. 80 percent of of the mpas vertical line, allowing you to see anyone crossing your vision threshold. Meh... Fast 3 hatchery. The map might require an early aggression, but its kind of tough since zerg can lay down hatcheries pretty quick and early... You could also do a Cannon expand rush, this jsut annoys and slows down zerg, about, 800-1200 investment. Which is 2+p, or 6+3p. You build it with a back board. although ravagers might kill them for free, slowing the expansion down is pretty important. Also you can do somethign funny on gold which is have the photon cannon and pylon ready, adn out of drone and hatchery, adn so when it is built its immediatelly attacked by a cannon, or just stop the build there. Ideally Terran has many ways, but spider mines on large maps as terran gives and saves map travel time. A DT, could be useful to stop the expand ,but it takes too long... Adepts... seem like the best coutner and gives combat mobility, cannons... kind of a okay investment... with shield battery can be good. Hmm Those or my thoughts. Adept defence, delaying and working to spot expands. I think this map is big enough thatif zerg goes three hatch any species can go three hatch. Just because ling speed would be delayed and there is quite a time to get across the map. Hmm.
1 canon and a battery? The problem however, is how much investment do you want to use to block the spot, in the meantime, the zerg player just expands to a normal 3rd then 4th base while the protoss has spent an entire mineral patch camping this one spot.
In all honesty, that map should nerf that base, either to JUST gold, or half gold, half +gas.
21:26 you only saved 3 tempests.
Last game was a real nail biter! I wish I could just stay home and watch you play all day! Cheers xD
"little bit of relaxed salt" :D:D:D
Ever since I discovered Mark's channel after reading a SC/other stuff fanfic(Dont ask why) ive never stop binged watching all of the Protoss and Zerg cheese videos he has uploaded. Such entertainment has really made me look forward to each notification I get from Uthermal so heres my like and sub.
Why
Woww. Great games. Shoutout to Mingo for the last game. Good push.
I really feel like there has to be a way to punish the gold on equilibrium vs Zerg. What if you took a bottom middle base as natural and set up all infrastructure there? If he moves on main, recall probes while killing the gold
1 base v 2 base is worse than 2 base v 3 base, even if the 3rd is a gold
Wonder if you can pylon block the gold into the cannon rush. Still would prolly be quite behind
problem he'd be facing is he'd have to invest in
a)forge 150min
b) pylon 100min
c) at least 3 cannons 450min
d) the time it takes to get the forge, the pylon, and the cannons up.
By that point most zergs would have tons of roaches and/or zerglings,
and he'd be way behind on getting other aspects of the build out.
What MIGHT work is Pylon->battery and then send adepts and later some stalkers to the spot.
In all, yeah, that map is WAY imba to zerg. Maybe if he could deny the spire, that would give the tempests and other fliers some breathing room.
hey uThermal new subscriber here and I've beeen watching your videos for strategies.. I'm a newbie player silver ranked and a terran player btw.. what's the best strategy or units to use againts those tempest.. they are so annoying.. any advice? TIA
love your content so much! Appreciate it!
On Equilibrium: Canon rush the gold maybe?
Amazing to hold out against a great attack
Should you send an oracle ahead of your mothership to clear scouts?
crazy stuff mate
Not sure why last game didn't switch to Vikings once they had the 2 tanks and 2 liberators for air cover... fun times regardless.
Loving the daily content
Mechanics of Uthermal is wtff someone have tips to play like this?
Will we get a random race random challenge to grandmaster series at some point? :D
At 8 00 you could have killed hatch and recalled.
Your memory astounds me
On the gold-base map, which you had a problem, why not just build the gold base on your side of the map?
That could even it out. Unless you have no way to defend it.
Marc making me want to try ranked again, don’t temp me
Hi,
Can You try to do some sick infinite greed builds starting like in lower bracket(low master?)
Just for fun
Love Your content :)
Mothership rush to rank 1 😅 00:01
Why did that one guy rage quit? Did i miss something there?
No other base, and no battery to protect the probes, no recall energy to call anti-air units.
@@Dynesgorandom ah gotcha
You should try a cheese rush while also playing a blitz chess game Love the daily vids
If you can't deal with the gold minute 1, just veto it. I have no clue how you're going to do a cannon rush into a mothership without either winning before the mothership or just losing hahah but I'm down to see it 😄
I vetoed Equilibrium, you simply cannot beat zerg on it.
Lowko said hell win uThermal1v1 on live stream. I told him too prove it
Cannon rush the gold and then take the gold from them since.you have cannons GG
Insta Block the gold base from the start
nice. much
I like your like.
baddest ass ginger on the ladder
I dont play this game. Can someone explain how good this guy is? E.g. avg pro? GOAT?
goat -0.5%
He was a progamer until recently. He is currently the #43 starcraft player worldwide. Skill differences are large at the highest levels, so there's a large skill gap between him and the #1 player, but still... he's very good.
🎉🎉🎉
3 tempest saved, not 4
why does the video have 1 million likes and only 3 thousand views
Let's go!
uthermal vs serral show match for charity
What match is the title referring to? The borderline clickbait is frustrating
25:30 thumbnail match start
Just watch the video lol there's only one PvT
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A true villain
This is either a bot comment or a real person typed it, I don't know which one is more depressing
@@oodlesofnoodles23bot, real person, doesn't matter. Still spam for likes.
That is like masturbation.
So, nothing wrong with it.
But doing it in public?! Nah...
Wooo 7 seconds
One salty rage quitter disliked this video 😃
44 views, 536k likes, “3 minutes ago” - YT MMR bug?
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In the first game you could have gone for one sentry and use a hallucinated phoenix to kill the overlord with stalkers :)
Let's go!