Aiki-age Training for Jiu-jitsu
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In this video I attempt to demystify some of the training seen in Aikido, Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu, and other aiki arts. We look at some basic aiki-age training by grasping the wrists. The wrong approach is to use muscle against the force of your opponent’s pressure, but we still use muscle to move our skeletal structure. This principle is found throughout judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and many other arts where the objective focuses on not opposing force with force. We learn to move our structure in a way that effects our opponent’s structure with minimal effort.
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YES. These kinds of useful and valuable techniques exist all over internal arts like Aikido, Taiji and Daito Ryu. People get too dismissive, without feeling it for themselves before making up their mind. Too bad. I love seeing people cut through the trolling, and instead evaluating things for themselves.
Thanks for the comment 🙏
Outstanding teacher.
I've been teaching these mechanics since the 90s and I've seen others teach but your calm, clear, concise, presentation without a lot of loquaciousness is very impressive.
Great teachers can make the complex seem simple and you're a great teacher sir.
The Daito Ryu lineage I cross trained in had jujitsu, aiki, aiki age and aiki sage but did not have the aiki no jutsu, such as shadow locks, that I've seen in one lineage of Daito Ryu.
Peace be with you brother.
Thank you for the kind words.
There seems to be like 15 different ways to do aiki-age. But the basic principle of changing the angle in some way is always the same, as you demonsrated.
How do you e plaina when a People recdive aili and be completelu imobilizade even without a touch
Fake. There is only a perception of what is potentially happening where a student reacts to their teacher. A strong shout/kiai will definitely create an off balancing effect, as well as a feigned blow to a vital area, but there is no physical force applied that moves the student.
can you do this without putting stress on the opponent elbows such as locking them? or transfer this skill to the whole body? thank you.
I’m not sure if I understand your question. Yes, the whole body is affected already when the opponent realizes they are falling.
@@Aiki_and_Jiu sorry, i worded the question wrong, what i meant is could the principle be effective or applicable in say for example a bjj or judo or even wrestling context? Like when the opponent doesn't have an upright structure?
@@mgtowishfever8321 100%👍🏼. Anytime an opponent grips you, they are at risk of having their structure disrupted. Many times I use my opponent’s grip on my lapel together with my grip on their wrist and cause them to lose balance. Same for passing guard when someone grabs my wrist or sleeve, I use it to spin them on their axis.
@@Aiki_and_Jiu thanks, i also noticed that you have in aikijutsu or any of the old jujutsu styles something akin to openning and closing or extending of joints that exists in chinese internal martial arts(oppening the shoulder joint to free it from blockage and use the next stronger joint in this case the hip joint).sorry for the long ramble but thank you for answering.
hello , I love your channel , great stuff , somehow I have missed this video and want to humbly comment on it , the big problem I see here is that this is not really Aiki-age in true sense, it's jiu-jutsu clever joint manipulation done mostly by your ams , aiki is a bit different , and in your example uke somehow cooperates with the nage to make it work, don't get me wrong , I can clearly see that you put each other arm pressure even body weight, but human body is more complicated than that as u surely know, and the problem is neither you (when you act as uke) nor your uke make any attempts at regaining your balance when the technique starts you just keep maintaining the power vector the same, except at one point at 4.11 , whn u stopped performing passive pressure and wih a tiny movement regained your balance started changing your attack vector and the result is clearly failure on part of of your partner but your explanation of her pulling her arms resulting too much in her failure is not true, u just stopped appliying passive pressure and did what an average human will do u just adjusted your center and changed your attack vector and continued your attack like any normal will do , try this with an average joe who has absolutely no martial art training, and you will realise as soon as you pull your arms back they will shit their weight vector and will push you to make your arms impossible to move and disrupt your balance, and it is also very apparent both of you as experienced martial artists can still freely move your bodies as the techinique is applied, this is not aiki in any sense, its still jiu-jitsu and can work on some situations , but aiki involves using your center (hara or tanden whatvever u like to call) not your arms to lock the ukes center so uke can't adjust his balance to or use power because he lost its balance point and cant adjust you no more and is dependent on you just to keep balance , so with due respect your version is still a bit fake but this is very understandable aiki is a bitch to learn and it's so counterintuitive and real aiki must look fake cause its not an arm movemet it involves the whole body to use , and boy it is sooooo hard to do properly. but this example altrhough looks similar is not aiki-age wil not work against most of the people cause just hollding strong is just part of the game normal people unconcouisly will move shift their wieght vector and regain their balance as soon as they feel something fishy is going on like you pulling your arms in , and the rest is not gonna happen , aiki is not magic or voodoo but its also not very basic physics , i it requires a skill to completely control your mind and body in pursuit of total control of your own body , unift and separate parts of your body at will and once u achive that u, are not really doing any technique other than to yourself , and the uke will be so unbalanced and unresponsive in pursuit to regain his balance it will become stiff and the rest will be as easy as moving any object, so what u do here is skilfull jiujutsu but there is zero aiki involved, and we should not try to rationalize things we dont really understand to please other peoples prejudices, if aiki was easy , there will be million people doing it, but theres maybe 1000 people who can do aiki and theres only 100s who can do it high level, just my to cents, and absolutely no disrespect to you and thanks for the content and great channel. cheers and all the best.
Thanks for the comment and observation. I agree this is jujutsu, properly applied. Aiki is still a mystery but one that I am constantly pursuing.
@@Aiki_and_Jiu welcome to the club man , I have been doing aiki related arts since 25 years and I can do 2 % percent aiki stuff and can do parlor tricks to make my friends laugh , but got stuck there , than I started pursuing it like crazy and found out the rabbit hole is so deep its unbelievable, for example when I asked the late Saito sensei why he doesn't have aiki although his jujitsu is otherworldly he replied , I have no need for it , but I could see the bitterness and sadness in his eyes , then I found out he was a bit angry because as a life long caretaker, uchideshi and retainer of O'sensei he was not able to perform aiki but Hirosawa sensei who became a student of Ueshiba much much later and was only a part time uchideshi can make you fall or freeze u without touching as long as he can look in to your eyes directly even if for a tiny second , then when I asked about him How can u learn this, he replied, You can't learn true aiki by any means, it is gifted to you when u become pure at heart ( a baby heart was his exact wording ) and said as long as u have a warriors mind u will not be gifted with aiki, if u read musashis (who havent lost a duel in his life) book of five rings , he clearly states he never winned a battle because he knew The way of strategy , which is his way of labeling aiki, he says he reached the secret in his later years when he completely abandoned all desire of fighting and winning, so I now I reached the conclusion that true aiki is not a martial skill its a kind of enlightement or a state of mind and I will never reach it by pursuing martial arts, and historically when u look at it , koryu kenjutsu schools dont ever try to reach this kind of things because as they are completely designed for warfare , the presence of a sword or deadly weapon and the idea of certain death was enough for your opponent to become stiff and schocked which creates a aiki like effect on ukes mind and body . sorry for the ramble man but I just wanted to point out that aiki is a very misunderstood concept , and trying to prove that it is not voodoo or magic is a waste of time , cause we completely lack the understanding and as u probably know even masters of budo arts disagree on the topic what aiki is and what not, so it is a mystery as u say, and I'm pretty sure that it will become as such forever, respect and keep up the good work.