I am so excited I found your channel. I have so much to learn, I was overwhelmed. During Covid lockdown I ordered the Wondermill and my childhood best friend bought the Nutrimill Harvest. We had fun buying things together over the phone. Well... she got sick and passed away so rapidly during Covid. I couldn't bring myself to using my mill. Her husband ended up giving me hers as well (still unopened box). I just recently set them both up and decided with joy that I was going to master our goal which was to make all our own breads. So thank you in advance for all your videos that I will be watching !
Just wanted to say THANK YOU. I just ordered my mill, mixer, and grains using your links. I truly appreciate your honesty. It made it easier to understand. Also, you are so beautiful!! Thanks again.
Now that I’ve had a manual mill for about a year and realize how much faster I would like to have freshly milled flour on hand, I’ve decided on the electric Wondermill because this video made it clear to me that that’s the best one for me. Thanks for the video!!
When I saw that yours had a separate hopper for flour, I was beginning to second guess what I purchased, but after watching your videos (your WM Harvest review and this in particular) I’m so glad I settled on what I did!
Found an older video with a manual grain mill. I was so very happy to find that one because, if I'm buying one, I want it to be manually driven as I can't afford both. Thanks for this review too, Blessings to you and all your wonderful subscribers 😊
Just remember, whatever mill gets you milling NOW is the best one for you. If you find a manual mill is too much work, you'll stop eating freshly milled grains. So make sure you get the mill that works for you so you can enjoy home-milled grains for a long time to come.
Thank you for answering my question about using my Vitamix! I Really didn't want to buy a mill right now, and since we are a small family, I don't need a lot of grain at a time. I am now confident to try my Vitamix (I have a dry container) for my sprouted Einkorn berries.
I ground wheat a few times in my Vitamix and the temp was always in excess of 120 degrees and the flour a bit grainy. It "works" but an actual mill especially a stone mill is so much better
I also have this type of grain mill. Started out doing by hand but tired of that quickly and got the motor. My problem is the flour comes out rather coarse, even though I turn it to the tightest setting. Do u have this issue with the Country Living mill?
Great video. I look forward to having a grain mill. I use my Vitamix and I do 2 cups at a time but I freeze the 2 cups of grain first then never more than 90 seconds in the Vitamix
We just purchased a hand mill Victoria. The grain we purchased has not arrived yet so we do not know how we will like it but we ground some sun flowers and they seemed fine enough. We like the fact that we will also get exercise when we grind the flour. Basically we plan to make Ezekiel bread. Occasionally we might make pancakes or even muffins. We are only two people so we will probably make two loaves a week. We also plan to start grinding our own coffee. Eva
I LOVE grinding my own coffee and have been doing that for years. I've even roasted my own before, but it's hard to get the right flavor. Mine tends to be kinda smokey.
I bought a Nutrimill harvest because it's so pretty. However, now I'm baking freshly milled bread to sell and I need speed! It takes 40 minutes to mill all the flour I need for a bake day.
Thank you so much for all this wonderful information! I’m learning a lot from you, but I do have one question. Can you recommend which machine would make the least amount of dust mess from milling wheatberries? I have a situation where I can’t have a lot of dust.
Definitely the best video to help know what aspects to consider. It would be helpful if you also mentioned loudness of the different types too :)thanks very much
If the stone grinder either (Nutrimill or Mockmill) were not to produce the fineness desired. Is it possible to put the flour through the machine again to acquire the fineness needed?
This was so helpful! I wish I had this video to help me a few years ago but now I'll be using this to send to friends who ask about mills. Love your channel! 🌾😍
Mockmill also has a kitchen aid attachment….supposedly grinds wheat berries finer than the kitchen aid brand. I think it goes for around $225 as opposed to $150 for the kitchen aid brand
What do you think about these types of mills? YaeMarine 150g Grain Mill Grinder High Speed Electric Stainless Steel Grinder Spice Herb Cereals Corn Flour Powder Machine (Capacity, 150g)
I only back 2 loaves a week as it is only my husband and myself. I have been using my vitamin to grind my flour. I AM A TOTAL NEWBIE to baking in general. It appears my flour is ground fine with my vitamix but what do I know. Is it Ok to continue or am I really missing out of better milled flour?
Hi I just saw your video. I have done kombucha for years but idk I stopped doing it. I’m really short on space. Now im back to learn on milling grains for cooking.
@@GrainsandGrit hi thank your help watching your videos. I’m researching the grinder, I checking the top 3 grains to get. To start with. Mylar bags n 5 gallon bucket’s.
We currently use the Kitchenaid standmixer grain mill attachment and IT IS SO LOUD AND SLOW MILLING! My poor family! They get to wake up every morning with that thing singing! Lol, well, we eat great bread though
lol all grain mills are loud when milling grain except the manual ones! I do know the KA ones are much slower though. If I plan on making muffins or pancakes or whatever first thing in the morning, I actually mill the wheat the night before and place in the fridge or freezer to maintain as much of the nutrients as possible :-)
Have you tried to crack grains with your mills? I am looking for one that would make flour and crack grains to cook them easier. Do you think a coarse setting will make this happen? I am afraid that it is going to mill grains coarsely instead of cracking them. Thank you!
After watching your videos (which I find extremely useful), I purchased a bosh universal plus mixer. I also have a wondermill i purchased a few years ago but never got the hang of making soft bread and gave up a few times. Now I again am getting courage watching your videos but I did make some bread last few days and they all turn out dense. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Is it possible to make soft fluffy bread using whole wheat hard red grains? Sorry I am nowhere near an expert on this. But would love to know how to make soft fluffy whole wheat bread. Thanks for making these interesting videos!
Hi, Felicia! I recently purchased a Nutrimill Classic and was wondering what setting is the best to get fine flour for bread making? I have tried 9/11, 9/1, and 12/12 and the flour is still too grainy. HELP!!! 😫
Thank you for posting! I’m so glad I found your channel. I believe I’ve made up my mind to go with the NutriMill. Have you done a video for beginners? If so, I would love to see. I don’t know what berries to buy or how they should look when I would grind them.
I’m glad this video helped! That’s a great idea for a video. I have done a video about what grains do what and what I recommend to start with. You can check that out here: ua-cam.com/video/5xwJXgWvH10/v-deo.html As far as what the flour should look like, it is SLIGHTLY more coarse than all purpose flour. It’s still a fine flour but with the bran and germ added it it’s usually speckled.
Do you feel that the Nutrimill's stone grinder finest setting is finer than the Wondermill's pastry setting? I'd like to get both but being as pricey as they are, one at a time :) Thank you - your videos are extremely helpful and very informative.
@@SaraWindi I bought mine from Grand Teton Ancient Grains. I studied mills for about a year before I bought. I belive the 200 Professional is the best portable mill made.. I did have to wait for mine and I have only had it a few months so they are probably still in stock. They are gaurenteed for 12 years in a household. Mine costed $798.00
@@SaraWindi I ordered it from Grand Teton Ancient Grains after I studied mills for about a year I found this one to be the best portable on the market. They cost $798.00. They order them every so often, when they are out they are out. I waited about 2 months for mine.
I am new to your Chanel, I will like your advised on which one of these grinder will you recommend to grind Cacao beans to powder. Thank you in advance for your help.
Need this information year ago. I bought a handmill and you couldn't feed one person with it. Pitiful. Now just praying for money to own one that will be sufficient for a large family.
Ok girl. I'm fixing to buy my first mill. I found a MockMill a girl will sell me for $200. She doesn't like it because it don't grind fine enough. I will be making bread 1-2 times per week and making cream of wheat mostly. What do you think? I know I can get an Impact mill for $175-200. I need your advice!!
I have both the wondermill and the mockmill 100. The mockmill allows re-grinding if your flour is not fine enough on the first pass. My mockmill 100 cost $349.00 I received it for Christmas from my husband. The wondermill makes the flour hotter than the mockmill. I only purchased the wondermill because at the time it was the only one I could get. The wondermill will grind popcorn and the mockmill will not. The mockmill is quieter than the wondermill. The spout on some of the stone mills are a little lower to the table top that I would like them to be forcing you to use a shallow bowl to catch the flour. If I had the money I would buy a more expensive mill then either of the 2 I already have, but I have a small household and don't bake enough to justify the extra expense.
@@francesramos779 Francis, the Komo mills are the only mills currently on the market produce fine flour. I sent the Mock mill back to the company for a refund. I kept the Wondermill because I had it too long to return it and because it can grind popcorn, but I doubt it can. The Komo Mio I have always done a good job.
@@kathygarner419 thank you! I have a Mockmill 100 and have been thinking about getting a komo classic to get finer flour. I’ll have to look into the komo mio. Thank you.
I guess you didn’t understand my question I can only use einkorn. I have a wheat/gluten allergy. I just found out this fall that I can tolerate einkorn. I’ve been learning how to work with this flour and I was interested in knowing what grain mill you thought was best for einkorn. Thank you 😊
In your experience does the Nutrimill Harvest get infested with bugs in holes within the stone and produce buggy flour? Sue Becker mentioned it. Wondering if anyone else experienced it before making the decision. Thank you!
I have a 40 year old impact mill called Magic Mill classic (I think Blendtex bought the company from Magic Mill?) but, I recently upgraded to the Komo Classic. I love it so much. It throws off a little flour dust cloud but it’s nothing what I expected and definitely not as much as the Magic Mill does. I chose the Komo for the design and ease of the adjustment setting (spin hopper to match the size dot you want). The one you have you have to adjust from inside the hopper and it didn’t look as easy by the reviews I watched before purchasing mine.
I completely agree about the Komo Classic, I purchased mine in 2017 and enjoy the ease of use when choosing a grind. The flour dust when grinding is usually minimal compared to how much I normally knock out of the bowl.
I have to agree with you about the knob on the inside. It’s the one thing I don’t like as much because I can’t adjust the stones by sight. I just turn until it’s to the right adjustment. Glad you love your Komo mill! I’ve heard great things about it. I’ve never heard of Magic Mill though.
I have a Blendtec and plan to use it for awhile before investing in an electric mill. Do you have any tips? (I get my grain this Friday!) Should I mill just a small amount at a time? Like a cup?
No no no no and a big huge no. Don’t put anything that can be “wet” in a typical grain mill. It will gum it up. If you have some sort of mill that has STEEL stones they handle wet stuff like nuts, coffee, etc. If you’re just looking at doing herbs I believe there are little blenders or something that can do that for herbs. Not sure though but it sounds familiar lol
for the price nothing beats a Mockmill 200. It grinds super fine flour even if you just dump room temp grain in and grind at finest settings first pass, the temp is 99 degrees and even the bran is super fine. If you really want to overachieve you can take the grain grind it very course on first pass then take that cracked wheat and put in freezer for 30 mins and then grind at finest setting and its like 70 degree ultra fine whole wheat with all its bran. It will grind two mounded cups of wheat berries in about 90 seconds. I got mine from Mockmill "reburbished" for $300 with same warranty as brand new, and really it is a brand new mill but $125 less. The only other mill i would say is as good would be the Komo but its more expensive.
Thanks so much for the explanation. As I prefer to rinse the grains with water and dry before grinding, just want to know which kind of mill is better when there is some moisture remains in the grains to be grinder.
Thank you for your videos🌹 I’ve been looking up info on the different mills and I am trying to figure out if there is an electric one out there that has interchangeable burrs so that I can do wet/ oily seeds etc? Or do I have to buy a manual mill to grind these. Peanut butter, flax oil etc would be great to have in pantry. 🌹
Have you ever tried grinding artisan grains, like curly dock seed? I used my Wonder Mill Jr. (stone grinder) to do it, but the seed and chaff are so light, I had to 'plunge' them the entire time. They would not feed in easily and the dust was tremendous. I'm wondering if the the normal Wonder Mill could handle it, but now I'm wondering if the "impact" mill could even grind this small groats.
Hi I am new to this. I was looking at the Wonder Mill what 3 top grains do you recommend for pizza dough, pie crust, bread/rolls. Also do you have recipes to follow I haven’t seen any yet? I’m very excited to start something new and healthy. Thank you for your help 👍💕
I also received my Mockmill 100 (not yet out of the box! lol) and picked up my first order of berries from Azure Standard and also an order from Bread Beckers. While I've found all the youTube channels I have listened to are fantastic and so so helpful, I just joined here and I think I'm going to make this my home base. (I actually relate to your story about starting my cooking from literally...scratch.) I also dove head first and bought the Virtuoso Plus bread machine. This weekend will be my first loaf of bread, ever! The one hiccup I have is the storage. The wheat came in bags and I'm not sure how long I have before bugs get in and what are the best containers. Containers are scarce right now. I'm thinking this is going to be one of the best endeavors I've started in a very long time.
store your wheat berries in 1 gallon mylar bags with a 400grm oxygen absorber in it, if kept below 70 degrees will last 20 to 30 years and without oxygen it kills all the bugs
A while back bought an electric mill.... not happy dust all over the place made in China and just not too happy with the quality. I decided a few days ago I decided I needed a hand cranked on just in case. I purchased from Plesant Hill a hand cranked Wonder Junior Deluxe. I might soon sell my electric one and buy a Nutri Mill. I figure if I have invested in the grains might as well.
A good mill makes a huge difference! I have had my eye on the Wondermill Junior! I like how it also includes the auger for masa harina, coffee beans, etc that you can't throw in to a regular grain mill :-)
How much is the cost of wheat berries I grow HRW wheat on my farm then I sell for $10.00 / hundred lbs. Would I save much out of the truck? I am thinking I could store in a 50 lb plastic sealed container.
@@GrainsandGrit I need over a million dollars of grain sales to break even. The Co Op I sell to ships wheat by the unit train of 100 cars to export. My truck is 1,000 bu at a time...Just the driver needs $50/hr to make wages. When I buy fertilizer I buy a 25 ton semi at a time. Retail is where most all the cost of a wheat product is.
I have been recently prepping and know my adult children and their familes are not so preparing to have enough food for everyone. I have stocked up on flour but want long term prep for bread making. I am new to bread making but will master this soon as well as pasta making. I am going to stock up on wheat berries but will need a mill. I am on a budget. So would a manual mill suffice? (Until budget allows electric mill) i have a kitchenaid but it came from Walmart and is most likely low wattage so not sure if the mill attachment would work. I am concerned about our future for food so preparing to be more self sufficient as much as i can. Any advise on real econimical mills to get me started?
If you have the time to manually grind, then sure, it'll do. But just know it's a LOT slower with a manual. By the way, good for you for prepping for all your loved ones!! Have you gone through my prepping with grains course yet? grainsandgrit.com/prepwithgrains
@@GrainsandGrit about to review your prepping with grains now. I have the correct food buckets, mylar bags, and been putting up rice, sugar, flour, Cornmeal and beans. Might just have to spend extra $ on mill. Thx for replying
After every milling I always brush off the flour that accumulates in the flour container. Periodically you will need to clean out the container that holds the super fine flour as well. Otherwise, not too much maintenance :-)
Oh man. I am totally confused and bummed. Maybe you can shed some light… I just convinced my husband to buy me a mock mill after three years - I read that the stone mill grinds and keeps the grain cooler causing less oxidation. Then I hear that the stones are aluminum oxide!!! It’s true. Is it the same aluminum that causes mental health issues???
How about mill maintenance 🤔 Do stones ever have to be replaced? If so, how often? Is the impact mill stainless steel instead of stone? Thank you for the video!
Impact mill is stainless steel, if I remember right. Stones do periodically need to be cleaned. You just take them out and brush them off and then mill white rice through it (and discard that) :-)
stones are made from basically sapphire so they are just shy of diamond hardness and should last many many years. Even if something happens and you need to replace them, in the case of a Mockmill each stone is just $20 and you need 2.
I neeeeed to buy a mill. I have my first berries arriving this week. Also cuz they are getting hard to find. Out of stock all over. I want stone ground. I won’t be doing volume or selling. Just for our family of 3. I saw a post online on an azure customer page I think. Discussing favorites. The two most mentioned were the Mockmill in the nutrimill. I love the look of the wood one from neutral but in reading a lot of reviews online at different websites that sell it the most common complaint is that it doesn’t get fined enough and I definitely want it super fine especially for doing pastry flour. So then that leads me to the Mockmill but I don’t like plastic stuff however the wood one is not in my budget and so I’m just curious because in the long run looks don’t really matter. I want something that’s going to consistently grind really really fine and I’m just curious since you’ve tried them both and owned both do you think the Mockmill Greines fine or consistently than the Neutra mill or do you find if they’re set properly they’re both fine or should I check into a different brand?
Yeah, I don't know why people say that about the Nutrimill stone mill. I LOVE my Harvest by Nutrimill. I use it to make consistently FINE flour all the time for biscuits, cookies, etc. Hope you can get your dream mill soon!
Be careful about any research done by the companies themselves. Also, you said the company said it did not kill off any nutrients. This was there claim. But enzymes are in the plants that we eat that we need to digest. They didn't say whether it would hurt the enzymes in the plant. If I remember correctly, I believe the research varies that enzymes can only withstand anywhere from 98 degrees to 106 degrees. We need the enzymes in order to be able to digest the food without them becoming harmful to us. It really is important that we can find independent studies on this if there is any.
Help!!! I am new to the milling thing and I have come across something that I cannot figure out. So purchased the Mockmill and some organic hard white and hard red wheat berries. I made a loaf with the red first and I noticed it was a little gritty. It was not bad but it was every so often when I would take a bite of bread it was like there was grit in it and I don’t mean grainy but gritty like dirt. Then I noticed a couple specks of tiny tiny gold flakes. So tiny you can only see it if the light hits it just right. I thought maybe it had something to do with the red berries so I made a loaf using the white berries and I have noticed the same thing…. Strange thing is I can’t see any gold/copper looking flakes in the flour when it grind it. I can only see it on the bread once baked. Not sure if this flake and the grit are one in the same or what…. Has anyone else had this experience? Any suggestions?
@@sheilahamilton9088 Ok I've never purchased grains from them. I honestly don't know what that could be. I know with stone grind mills, they usually tell you to first grind white rice in them to clear out any sort of debri before using. Did you do that?
@@GrainsandGrit yes I did the rice thing a few times. I called and spoke with someone at Mockmill and he said the sand/grit could be minerals coming from the stones and it should go away…so I guess we shall see. Said it was harmless. Lord I hope so. 🙏🏻 Btw, where do you order your wheat berries from?
@@sheilahamilton9088 ok well time will tell! Mockmill does have a warranty so if it keeps happening contact them back. I get my wheat berries from Azure Standard. The link is in the description box above 😄
I thought you will like to know that on this video at about 1:50 in, there is an alarming car screeching noise! I thought at first there was a car screeching to a halt out front of the house here where I am. Very alarming!
I am super torn between the nutrimill harvest and the nutrimill classic. My biggest concerns are the heat killing the good stuff in the flour and the harvest being too complicated for a first time user. Is it worth the price difference to get the harvest?
I have no experience with the Harvest, but have had my Nutrimill Classic for over 3 years and I love it. It does heat the flour , but not that much. It just feels a little warm, does not effect the nutritional value of the flour
Both the Nutrimill Harvest and the Nutrimill Classic make it clear in their description that neither one of them heats the grains to where it's cooking nutrients out. I haven't compared the Nutrimill Harvest to the Nutrimill Classic, but I do a have a Wondermill which is an impact mill like the Classic and I can't really tell a difference when touching the flour if it's hotter or not. If there is a difference it is minuscule but neither is so much it heats the flour too much. As far as the price difference, as stated in the video it all depends on what you want to use it for. The biggest difference is the Harvest allows you to adjust it from cracked grains to fine flour. The Classic is only fine flour. The Classic mills faster than the Harvest. I think those are the two factors to consider when choosing :-)
Don't buy a Mockmill. We purchased one about 6 months ago and it locks up continuously. We've tried all the unlocking tricks online and it still malfunctions. We wish we had purchased another brand.
I have a Wondermill Jr, and I'm building a treadle powered stand (actually a freewheel, not a treadle) so my 9yo can help too. He won't eat it, but he still thinks its cool.
You're right, their quality has been suffering lately. But they remain the cheapest. But for those looking for consistent quality and outstanding customer service, I recommend Pleasant Hill Grain: bit.ly/3sRN0zB
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I am so excited I found your channel. I have so much to learn, I was overwhelmed. During Covid lockdown I ordered the Wondermill and my childhood best friend bought the Nutrimill Harvest. We had fun buying things together over the phone. Well... she got sick and passed away so rapidly during Covid. I couldn't bring myself to using my mill. Her husband ended up giving me hers as well (still unopened box). I just recently set them both up and decided with joy that I was going to master our goal which was to make all our own breads. So thank you in advance for all your videos that I will be watching !
Sorry for your loss. I know this grain journey will be extra special for you with the memory of your friend.
Sorry to hear about your friend.
You were lucky for the time you had together.
Sad, yet sweet, story. Sorry for your loss!
I'm so sorry about the loss of your friend. I'm sure she's with you in spirit and smiling down watching you make flour.
Just wanted to say THANK YOU. I just ordered my mill, mixer, and grains using your links. I truly appreciate your honesty. It made it easier to understand. Also, you are so beautiful!! Thanks again.
Now that I’ve had a manual mill for about a year and realize how much faster I would like to have freshly milled flour on hand, I’ve decided on the electric Wondermill because this video made it clear to me that that’s the best one for me. Thanks for the video!!
When I saw that yours had a separate hopper for flour, I was beginning to second guess what I purchased, but after watching your videos (your WM Harvest review and this in particular) I’m so glad I settled on what I did!
I never have to adjust my mock mill. I got an impact mill for my sister it’s a great mill too just decision of stone mill or impact. Great mills
Thank you for your thorough explanation. I am just starting and I was lost. You are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you
My pleasure :-)
Found an older video with a manual grain mill. I was so very happy to find that one because, if I'm buying one, I want it to be manually driven as I can't afford both. Thanks for this review too, Blessings to you and all your wonderful subscribers 😊
Just remember, whatever mill gets you milling NOW is the best one for you. If you find a manual mill is too much work, you'll stop eating freshly milled grains. So make sure you get the mill that works for you so you can enjoy home-milled grains for a long time to come.
Thank you for answering my question about using my Vitamix! I Really didn't want to buy a mill right now, and since we are a small family, I don't need a lot of grain at a time. I am now confident to try my Vitamix (I have a dry container) for my sprouted Einkorn berries.
I ground wheat a few times in my Vitamix and the temp was always in excess of 120 degrees and the flour a bit grainy.
It "works" but an actual mill especially a stone mill is so much better
Thank you. I have thought about getting a flour mill, and now I know about the issues i should consider.
Bought a country living mill 7 months ago and it works fantastic. I am a millwright and it will be motorized when I get tired of grinding by hand.
I also have this type of grain mill. Started out doing by hand but tired of that quickly and got the motor. My problem is the flour comes out rather coarse, even though I turn it to the tightest setting. Do u have this issue with the Country Living mill?
Not at all. Chack that you do not have something course caught in the burrs that is keeping you from tightening it for fine grind.@@ceepark114
Clueless husband here. Looking for gift for wife who is in the market for a mill. This was extremely helpful! Thanks!
Happy to help!!
Great video. I look forward to having a grain mill. I use my Vitamix and I do 2 cups at a time but I freeze the 2 cups of grain first then never more than 90 seconds in the Vitamix
Your grain wheat in the vitamix?
We just purchased a hand mill Victoria. The grain we purchased has not arrived yet so we do not know how we will like it but we ground some sun flowers and they seemed fine enough. We like the fact that we will also get exercise when we grind the flour. Basically we plan to make Ezekiel bread. Occasionally we might make pancakes or even muffins. We are only two people so we will probably make two loaves a week. We also plan to start grinding our own coffee. Eva
I LOVE grinding my own coffee and have been doing that for years. I've even roasted my own before, but it's hard to get the right flavor. Mine tends to be kinda smokey.
I bought a Nutrimill harvest because it's so pretty. However, now I'm baking freshly milled bread to sell and I need speed! It takes 40 minutes to mill all the flour I need for a bake day.
Wow, that's a lot of flour. You're selling that much freshly milled bread?? AWESOME!!!
Found it!!! Thanks for sharing this crucial info!! It’s helped me narrow down my selection. I’ll let you know what I end up getting when I get one :)
Yay!!! I know this comment was almost a week ago, did you decide which one?
Thank you so much for all this wonderful information! I’m learning a lot from you, but I do have one question. Can you recommend which machine would make the least amount of dust mess from milling wheatberries? I have a situation where I can’t have a lot of dust.
Probably the harvest.
Definitely the best video to help know what aspects to consider. It would be helpful if you also mentioned loudness of the different types too :)thanks very much
If the stone grinder either (Nutrimill or Mockmill) were not to produce the fineness desired. Is it possible to put the flour through the machine again to acquire the fineness needed?
This was so helpful! I wish I had this video to help me a few years ago but now I'll be using this to send to friends who ask about mills. Love your channel! 🌾😍
So glad you found me!
Excellent review! I’m just getting started on this journey and this was so helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Mockmill also has a kitchen aid attachment….supposedly grinds wheat berries finer than the kitchen aid brand. I think it goes for around $225 as opposed to $150 for the kitchen aid brand
What do you think about these types of mills? YaeMarine 150g Grain Mill Grinder High Speed Electric Stainless Steel Grinder Spice Herb Cereals Corn Flour Powder Machine (Capacity, 150g)
It was very helpful video. How much do you charge for the bread that you sell, and what the wait of the bread. Thanks
You mean at the local market? It's just first come first serve.
I only back 2 loaves a week as it is only my husband and myself. I have been using my vitamin to grind my flour. I AM A TOTAL NEWBIE to baking in general. It appears my flour is ground fine with my vitamix but what do I know. Is it Ok to continue or am I really missing out of better milled flour?
Oh, a Vitamix will work in small batches. But if you want to go to the next level, a dedicated mill is an incredibly handy tool.
Which mill is less dusty?
Hi I just saw your video. I have done kombucha for years but idk I stopped doing it. I’m really short on space. Now im back to learn on milling grains for cooking.
You can do it!
@@GrainsandGrit hi thank your help watching your videos. I’m researching the grinder, I checking the top 3 grains to get. To start with. Mylar bags n 5 gallon bucket’s.
We currently use the Kitchenaid standmixer grain mill attachment and IT IS SO LOUD AND SLOW MILLING! My poor family! They get to wake up every morning with that thing singing! Lol, well, we eat great bread though
lol all grain mills are loud when milling grain except the manual ones! I do know the KA ones are much slower though.
If I plan on making muffins or pancakes or whatever first thing in the morning, I actually mill the wheat the night before and place in the fridge or freezer to maintain as much of the nutrients as possible :-)
Have you tried to crack grains with your mills? I am looking for one that would make flour and crack grains to cook them easier. Do you think a coarse setting will make this happen? I am afraid that it is going to mill grains coarsely instead of cracking them. Thank you!
Yep, a stone mill can crack grains on the course setting. But not impact mills.
@@GrainsandGrit Thank you!
Finally I might get answers!!
Which is better... The Komo mill or the Nutri mill? I need one for my grains. I am new and never done this before. Thank you❤
Hey, sounds like you could really benefit from my new FREE Guide for Newbies: bit.ly/3XgUWrD
After watching your videos (which I find extremely useful), I purchased a bosh universal plus mixer. I also have a wondermill i purchased a few years ago but never got the hang of making soft bread and gave up a few times. Now I again am getting courage watching your videos but I did make some bread last few days and they all turn out dense. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Is it possible to make soft fluffy bread using whole wheat hard red grains? Sorry I am nowhere near an expert on this. But would love to know how to make soft fluffy whole wheat bread. Thanks for making these interesting videos!
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Hi, Felicia! I recently purchased a Nutrimill Classic and was wondering what setting is the best to get fine flour for bread making? I have tried 9/11, 9/1, and 12/12 and the flour is still too grainy. HELP!!! 😫
I use the finest setting, and it works perfect for me.
Thank you for posting! I’m so glad I found your channel. I believe I’ve made up my mind to go with the NutriMill. Have you done a video for beginners? If so, I would love to see. I don’t know what berries to buy or how they should look when I would grind them.
I’m glad this video helped! That’s a great idea for a video. I have done a video about what grains do what and what I recommend to start with. You can check that out here: ua-cam.com/video/5xwJXgWvH10/v-deo.html
As far as what the flour should look like, it is SLIGHTLY more coarse than all purpose flour. It’s still a fine flour but with the bran and germ added it it’s usually speckled.
I have a Nutrimill but not sure what my best setting is for the finest flour. I don’t have a book.
Do you feel that the Nutrimill's stone grinder finest setting is finer than the Wondermill's pastry setting? I'd like to get both but being as pricey as they are, one at a time :) Thank you - your videos are extremely helpful and very informative.
I bought the Mockmill Professional
Where did you buy it from? How much does the professional cost? Is there a wait period for shipping in the US?
@@SaraWindi I bought mine from Grand Teton Ancient Grains. I studied mills for about a year before I bought. I belive the 200 Professional is the best portable mill made.. I did have to wait for mine and I have only had it a few months so they are probably still in stock. They are gaurenteed for 12 years in a household. Mine costed $798.00
@@SaraWindi I ordered it from Grand Teton Ancient Grains after I studied mills for about a year I found this one to be the best portable on the market. They cost $798.00. They order them every so often, when they are out they are out. I waited about 2 months for mine.
@@oldgeezer3324 thank you so much! I will get the same one.
I am new to your Chanel, I will like your advised on which one of these grinder will you recommend to grind Cacao beans to powder.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Any of them will do the job.
Need this information year ago. I bought a handmill and you couldn't feed one person with it. Pitiful. Now just praying for money to own one that will be sufficient for a large family.
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Ok girl. I'm fixing to buy my first mill. I found a MockMill a girl will sell me for $200. She doesn't like it because it don't grind fine enough. I will be making bread 1-2 times per week and making cream of wheat mostly. What do you think? I know I can get an Impact mill for $175-200. I need your advice!!
Why would the temperature of the milled grain be an issue if it’s going to be baked anyway?
I know, right? That never made much sense to me, either.
Best video I've seen on selecting an electric grain mill. Thanks for explaining in detail.
My pleasure!
So glad I found your channel! Thank you so much for all the helpful information!
With kitchen aid mixers, you have to have the 600w. The 325 will NOT work and this includes the Artisen series.
Thanks for the info!
Does the nutri mill harvest grind as fine as like store bought flour?
Absolutely
Which is louder? Stone or Impact mill?
Impact
Do you know anything about pelletizing/granulating?
Which grain mill produces the least "flour mill dust"? Thank you for you video :)
I have both the wondermill and the mockmill 100. The mockmill allows re-grinding if your flour is not fine enough on the first pass. My mockmill 100 cost $349.00 I received it for Christmas from my husband. The wondermill makes the flour hotter than the mockmill. I only purchased the wondermill because at the time it was the only one I could get. The wondermill will grind popcorn and the mockmill will not. The mockmill is quieter than the wondermill. The spout on some of the stone mills are a little lower to the table top that I would like them to be forcing you to use a shallow bowl to catch the flour. If I had the money I would buy a more expensive mill then either of the 2 I already have, but I have a small household and don't bake enough to justify the extra expense.
Which mill gives you finer flour?
@@francesramos779 Francis, the Komo mills are the only mills currently on the market
produce fine flour. I sent the Mock mill back to the company for a refund. I kept the Wondermill because I had it too long to return it and because it can grind popcorn, but I doubt it can. The Komo Mio I have always done a good job.
@@kathygarner419 thank you! I have a Mockmill 100 and have been thinking about getting a komo classic to get finer flour. I’ll have to look into the komo mio. Thank you.
I'm looking for a grain mill to grind Indian atta flour( super fine flour basically). which is the best mill for that?
@priyacse2009 did you buy one? Please share I am also looking at which mill and which berries to use for atta.
I am using einkorn for my flour. If that is the only wheat that I use which grain mill would be best to use?
You can use all kinds of wheats and grains!
I guess you didn’t understand my question I can only use einkorn. I have a wheat/gluten allergy. I just found out this fall that I can tolerate einkorn. I’ve been learning how to work with this flour and I was interested in knowing what grain mill you thought was best for einkorn. Thank you 😊
In your experience does the Nutrimill Harvest get infested with bugs in holes within the stone and produce buggy flour? Sue Becker mentioned it. Wondering if anyone else experienced it before making the decision. Thank you!
Hmm, I've never had a problem with that myself.
You are wonderful and very clear in your info. I would really get more out of your videos if you had visuals. Just an idea, 😊
Thanks for the tip!
I have a 40 year old impact mill called Magic Mill classic (I think Blendtex bought the company from Magic Mill?) but, I recently upgraded to the Komo Classic. I love it so much. It throws off a little flour dust cloud but it’s nothing what I expected and definitely not as much as the Magic Mill does. I chose the Komo for the design and ease of the adjustment setting (spin hopper to match the size dot you want). The one you have you have to adjust from inside the hopper and it didn’t look as easy by the reviews I watched before purchasing mine.
I completely agree about the Komo Classic, I purchased mine in 2017 and enjoy the ease of use when choosing a grind. The flour dust when grinding is usually minimal compared to how much I normally knock out of the bowl.
I have to agree with you about the knob on the inside. It’s the one thing I don’t like as much because I can’t adjust the stones by sight. I just turn until it’s to the right adjustment.
Glad you love your Komo mill! I’ve heard great things about it. I’ve never heard of Magic Mill though.
I use a Blendtec blender to grind grains. It works just as good.
I have a Blendtec and plan to use it for awhile before investing in an electric mill. Do you have any tips? (I get my grain this Friday!) Should I mill just a small amount at a time? Like a cup?
Thanks, quite helpful.
Thanks for the video. Just want to know which type of mill gives more fine flour?
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Hi Felicia, I am looking to turn my abundance of lemongrass into paste. Would a stone mill be the way to go for this endeavour?.
No no no no and a big huge no. Don’t put anything that can be “wet” in a typical grain mill. It will gum it up. If you have some sort of mill that has STEEL stones they handle wet stuff like nuts, coffee, etc.
If you’re just looking at doing herbs I believe there are little blenders or something that can do that for herbs. Not sure though but it sounds familiar lol
Glad I found your videos, interesting.
Welcome aboard!
what about Samap F100?
for the price nothing beats a Mockmill 200.
It grinds super fine flour even if you just dump room temp grain in and grind at finest settings first pass, the temp is 99 degrees and even the bran is super fine.
If you really want to overachieve you can take the grain grind it very course on first pass then take that cracked wheat and put in freezer for 30 mins and then grind at finest setting and its like 70 degree ultra fine whole wheat with all its bran.
It will grind two mounded cups of wheat berries in about 90 seconds.
I got mine from Mockmill "reburbished" for $300 with same warranty as brand new, and really it is a brand new mill but $125 less.
The only other mill i would say is as good would be the Komo but its more expensive.
Thanks so much for the explanation. As I prefer to rinse the grains with water and dry before grinding, just want to know which kind of mill is better when there is some moisture remains in the grains to be grinder.
The only mill you can place wet grains in is the Wonder Junior Deluxe manual mill.
Curious, why do you wash the grains? It’s not needed.
Thank you for your videos🌹 I’ve been looking up info on the different mills and I am trying to figure out if there is an electric one out there that has interchangeable burrs so that I can do wet/ oily seeds etc? Or do I have to buy a manual mill to grind these. Peanut butter, flax oil etc would be great to have in pantry. 🌹
I have never seen an electric mill that allows that. I only know of manual mills like the Wondermill Jr Deluxe that allows the changeable burrs!
Can all do soft wheat berries and very dry sprouted wheat berries?
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@@GrainsandGrit I’ve heard some say you can’t mill soft wheat berries in certain mills because it’ll clog or glaze…
Have you ever tried grinding artisan grains, like curly dock seed? I used my Wonder Mill Jr. (stone grinder) to do it, but the seed and chaff are so light, I had to 'plunge' them the entire time. They would not feed in easily and the dust was tremendous. I'm wondering if the the normal Wonder Mill could handle it, but now I'm wondering if the "impact" mill could even grind this small groats.
I actually am not familiar with curly dock seed at all. It is possible a typical impact mill could handle it better but I am not sure.
Hi I am new to this. I was looking at the Wonder Mill what 3 top grains do you recommend for pizza dough, pie crust, bread/rolls. Also do you have recipes to follow I haven’t seen any yet? I’m very excited to start something new and healthy. Thank you for your help 👍💕
Sure, check out all my recipes here: grainsandgrit.com/recipes/
I also received my Mockmill 100 (not yet out of the box! lol) and picked up my first order of berries from Azure Standard and also an order from Bread Beckers. While I've found all the youTube channels I have listened to are fantastic and so so helpful, I just joined here and I think I'm going to make this my home base. (I actually relate to your story about starting my cooking from literally...scratch.) I also dove head first and bought the Virtuoso Plus bread machine. This weekend will be my first loaf of bread, ever! The one hiccup I have is the storage. The wheat came in bags and I'm not sure how long I have before bugs get in and what are the best containers. Containers are scarce right now. I'm thinking this is going to be one of the best endeavors I've started in a very long time.
Did you tried make a black bean flour?
store your wheat berries in 1 gallon mylar bags with a 400grm oxygen absorber in it, if kept below 70 degrees will last 20 to 30 years and without oxygen it kills all the bugs
A while back bought an electric mill.... not happy dust all over the place made in China and just not too happy with the quality. I decided a few days ago I decided I needed a hand cranked on just in case. I purchased from Plesant Hill a hand cranked Wonder Junior Deluxe. I might soon sell my electric one and buy a Nutri Mill. I figure if I have invested in the grains might as well.
A good mill makes a huge difference! I have had my eye on the Wondermill Junior! I like how it also includes the auger for masa harina, coffee beans, etc that you can't throw in to a regular grain mill :-)
TY! So helpful
How much is the cost of wheat berries I grow HRW wheat on my farm then I sell for $10.00 / hundred lbs. Would I save much out of the truck? I am thinking I could store in a 50 lb plastic sealed container.
You sell wheat for $10/100 lbs?? Where can I buy?
@@GrainsandGrit I need over a million dollars of grain sales to break even. The Co Op I sell to ships wheat by the unit train of 100 cars to export. My truck is 1,000 bu at a time...Just the driver needs $50/hr to make wages. When I buy fertilizer I buy a 25 ton semi at a time. Retail is where most all the cost of a wheat product is.
Mockmill grain mill that fits kitchen aid mixer - ( made in Germany with stones
How do I buy a grain mill where I can choose the extraction ratio?
Extraction of what?
I have been recently prepping and know my adult children and their familes are not so preparing to have enough food for everyone. I have stocked up on flour but want long term prep for bread making. I am new to bread making but will master this soon as well as pasta making. I am going to stock up on wheat berries but will need a mill. I am on a budget. So would a manual mill suffice? (Until budget allows electric mill) i have a kitchenaid but it came from Walmart and is most likely low wattage so not sure if the mill attachment would work. I am concerned about our future for food so preparing to be more self sufficient as much as i can. Any advise on real econimical mills to get me started?
If you have the time to manually grind, then sure, it'll do. But just know it's a LOT slower with a manual. By the way, good for you for prepping for all your loved ones!! Have you gone through my prepping with grains course yet? grainsandgrit.com/prepwithgrains
@@GrainsandGrit about to review your prepping with grains now. I have the correct food buckets, mylar bags, and been putting up rice, sugar, flour, Cornmeal and beans. Might just have to spend extra $ on mill. Thx for replying
Your brain is on...listening to your children's joy filled moments
Is there anything special that you need to do to clean or for maintenance on the impact mills? Thank you for your videos!
After every milling I always brush off the flour that accumulates in the flour container. Periodically you will need to clean out the container that holds the super fine flour as well. Otherwise, not too much maintenance :-)
Oh man. I am totally confused and bummed. Maybe you can shed some light…
I just convinced my husband to buy me a mock mill after three years - I read that the stone mill grinds and keeps the grain cooler causing less oxidation. Then I hear that the stones are aluminum oxide!!! It’s true. Is it the same aluminum that causes mental health issues???
Have you ever seen a Manuel grain mill? I would like to have one that is a decent size.
Yep, I review manual mills in other videos.
@@GrainsandGrit I looked and found it thank you!
I got a lided bowl from Amazon that fits under my mockmill it is a two quart cambro there’s a six qt one I use for rinsed dough too love these things
How about mill maintenance 🤔 Do stones ever have to be replaced? If so, how often? Is the impact mill stainless steel instead of stone? Thank you for the video!
Impact mill is stainless steel, if I remember right. Stones do periodically need to be cleaned. You just take them out and brush them off and then mill white rice through it (and discard that) :-)
stones are made from basically sapphire so they are just shy of diamond hardness and should last many many years.
Even if something happens and you need to replace them, in the case of a Mockmill each stone is just $20 and you need 2.
Mock mill makes an attachment for Kitchenaid
I neeeeed to buy a mill. I have my first berries arriving this week. Also cuz they are getting hard to find. Out of stock all over. I want stone ground. I won’t be doing volume or selling. Just for our family of 3. I saw a post online on an azure customer page I think. Discussing favorites. The two most mentioned were the Mockmill in the nutrimill. I love the look of the wood one from neutral but in reading a lot of reviews online at different websites that sell it the most common complaint is that it doesn’t get fined enough and I definitely want it super fine especially for doing pastry flour. So then that leads me to the Mockmill but I don’t like plastic stuff however the wood one is not in my budget and so I’m just curious because in the long run looks don’t really matter. I want something that’s going to consistently grind really really fine and I’m just curious since you’ve tried them both and owned both do you think the Mockmill Greines fine or consistently than the Neutra mill or do you find if they’re set properly they’re both fine or should I check into a different brand?
Yeah, I don't know why people say that about the Nutrimill stone mill. I LOVE my Harvest by Nutrimill. I use it to make consistently FINE flour all the time for biscuits, cookies, etc. Hope you can get your dream mill soon!
Be careful about any research done by the companies themselves. Also, you said the company said it did not kill off any nutrients. This was there claim. But enzymes are in the plants that we eat that we need to digest. They didn't say whether it would hurt the enzymes in the plant. If I remember correctly, I believe the research varies that enzymes can only withstand anywhere from 98 degrees to 106 degrees. We need the enzymes in order to be able to digest the food without them becoming harmful to us. It really is important that we can find independent studies on this if there is any.
Not all the mockmills are that expensive. Just bought a Mockmill 100 for $ 310. Just waiting for delivery.
Please. Where at? It still is expensive to me.
I bought Kitchen Aid and Mockmill attachment.
Should have just got a Mockmill as I never use the Kitchen Aid for anything else 🤷♂️
KoMo Jumbo is $3K, KoMo XL $740 as of 2/24. Prices going up.
Help!!! I am new to the milling thing and I have come across something that I cannot figure out. So purchased the Mockmill and some organic hard white and hard red wheat berries. I made a loaf with the red first and I noticed it was a little gritty. It was not bad but it was every so often when I would take a bite of bread it was like there was grit in it and I don’t mean grainy but gritty like dirt. Then I noticed a couple specks of tiny tiny gold flakes. So tiny you can only see it if the light hits it just right.
I thought maybe it had something to do with the red berries so I made a loaf using the white berries and I have noticed the same thing….
Strange thing is I can’t see any gold/copper looking flakes in the flour when it grind it. I can only see it on the bread once baked. Not sure if this flake and the grit are one in the same or what…. Has anyone else had this experience? Any suggestions?
It sounds like some may not be grinding fine enough, but I don't think wheat germ shines like that. Where did you purchase your wheat berries?
@@GrainsandGrit I purchased online from mockmill.
@@sheilahamilton9088 Ok I've never purchased grains from them. I honestly don't know what that could be. I know with stone grind mills, they usually tell you to first grind white rice in them to clear out any sort of debri before using. Did you do that?
@@GrainsandGrit yes I did the rice thing a few times. I called and spoke with someone at Mockmill and he said the sand/grit could be minerals coming from the stones and it should go away…so I guess we shall see. Said it was harmless. Lord I hope so. 🙏🏻
Btw, where do you order your wheat berries from?
@@sheilahamilton9088 ok well time will tell! Mockmill does have a warranty so if it keeps happening contact them back. I get my wheat berries from Azure Standard. The link is in the description box above 😄
My Wondermill has more than one setting for flour.
Yeah I think the new ones do. But I don’t think they are too big of a difference.
Random question- What is the diameter of your Bosch mixing bowl?
Ok just measured it with a ruler and it's 9.5'' on the inside and about 11'' on the outside. Give or take a 1/4'' or so :-)
I thought you will like to know that on this video at about 1:50 in, there is an alarming car screeching noise! I thought at first there was a car screeching to a halt out front of the house here where I am. Very alarming!
Haha, just a sound effect I used. Sorry for the alarm.
I am super torn between the nutrimill harvest and the nutrimill classic. My biggest concerns are the heat killing the good stuff in the flour and the harvest being too complicated for a first time user. Is it worth the price difference to get the harvest?
I have no experience with the Harvest, but have had my Nutrimill Classic for over 3 years and I love it. It does heat the flour , but not that much. It just feels a little warm, does not effect the nutritional value of the flour
Both the Nutrimill Harvest and the Nutrimill Classic make it clear in their description that neither one of them heats the grains to where it's cooking nutrients out.
I haven't compared the Nutrimill Harvest to the Nutrimill Classic, but I do a have a Wondermill which is an impact mill like the Classic and I can't really tell a difference when touching the flour if it's hotter or not. If there is a difference it is minuscule but neither is so much it heats the flour too much.
As far as the price difference, as stated in the video it all depends on what you want to use it for. The biggest difference is the Harvest allows you to adjust it from cracked grains to fine flour. The Classic is only fine flour. The Classic mills faster than the Harvest. I think those are the two factors to consider when choosing :-)
Can you just use a blender?
To blend, yes. To mill, no.
She’s at the Bug Out house 😂
I have a Marathon Uni-Mill electric. I have looked for a hand crank without success.
Say about STONE of this mill. Ifit is emry stone. It is very harm full to consume its flour. Because EMRY Stone is having led.
Mockmill stones.
Don't buy a Mockmill. We purchased one about 6 months ago and it locks up continuously. We've tried all the unlocking tricks online and it still malfunctions. We wish we had purchased another brand.
Oh goodness, that's not cool. Is it still under warranty? I would contact the company!
Get one that isn't electric. They sell them at Lehman's. Because it will do you zero good when the power is out.
True. But for the 99.99% of the time when the power IS on, you probably won't make bread very often because it's so much work.
@@GrainsandGrit I make bread twice a week every week. I also make corn bread, tortillas,and biscuits weekly as well. Got to have taco Tuesday.
How much effort and time does it take to grind by hand? And which mill are you using?
I have a Wondermill Jr, and I'm building a treadle powered stand (actually a freewheel, not a treadle) so my 9yo can help too. He won't eat it, but he still thinks its cool.
Personally I don't like to buy from Asure standard, because lots of stuff is from china. Also some items re very low quality,,, Like buckwheat and etc
You're right, their quality has been suffering lately. But they remain the cheapest. But for those looking for consistent quality and outstanding customer service, I recommend Pleasant Hill Grain: bit.ly/3sRN0zB
most important - in impact Mills you ONLY produce / eat floor and NOT floor with STONES in it !
where can you buy impact mill ?
@@decathlete2000 Google it plz
Enjoyed your video but sound was not consistent….
Oh weird, in what way?
They will burn your kitchen aid mixer up❤