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For anyone interested in culinary arts DO NOT GO TO CULINARY SCHOOL. I've worked at two of the best restaurants in the country (multiple Michelin stars and James Beard awards, not just an opinion) with zero prior experience. You learn way more working at a high-end restaurant than you will learn at culinary school and you will make money doing it. Going to culinary school almost guarantees that you will go into debt that you are very unlikely to get out of. You're unlikely to be able to even start paying down your debt for at least ten years after culinary school.
@Cameron Thurtle Less so for a vocational school probably, but you're probably still better off getting experience and learning while being paid than paying to learn without really getting real world experience.
The only benefit I can see to culinary arts is that the degree(at least at my old college) did give you certification in kitchen sanitation/safety along with some classes in inventory management. So I could see the slight benefit if you're looking to open a restaurant, but it still seems like a better idea to get a business degree in that case. Plus I'd be willing to bet you'll learn a lot more about that stuff from simply working in a kitchen like you said.
Why bother going to these expansive art schools when you can get better by going to udemy or one year art program for a certificate, or become a chef by going to real restaurants and learning there.
"Useless art degrees". Redundant! My A.A. was in Fine Arts. Decided "screw this", took some extra math and physics classes, and transferred into a Computer Science B.S. program. If anyone really wants to be an art major, Fine Arts is still a bad choice because you'll likely just be trained by your Dadaist drawing professor to Macgyver together some trash you rummaged from the school dumpster, tack on some ""deep"" intellectual meaning to it, and debate your peers on whether it's art or not. Seriously.
Same here, wanted to be artist, saw bad condition of art collages in my country, got into computer science, got interested in industrial design, and now trying to shift into it.
"Man I really wanna learn how to bake! Let me spend $100k for a piece of paper that says I can bake instead of spending $0 on UA-cam videos on how to bake"
I technically majored in Art, took graphic design courses with the intention of getting into web design. It ended up working out, but I had already decided to put more emphasis on working in dev by the time I landed full time work. It pays better and there's more opportunity for creative problem solving if you can code too. Turns out being a developer with a knack for graphics is a pretty in demand niche. I should also note that during my first job I completed a master's in IT, which made me stand out to employers even more. Still had to learn a lot on my own though, and this definitely wasn't the only route into the field. Probably not the most efficient route either!
It depends why you go to school as an Art Major. I work for myself but wanted to learn how to be consistent in it and wanted to build my portfolio and learn new skills. I gained all this and more. :-D
It's LIKE YOU READ my MIND. lol I finally settled on just becoming an Art teacher and possibly if I ever stray from the path then I'll create a portfolio and statements to get into being an Art Director. I have some skills that are unrelated but very helpful from having previous super unrelated jobs that I hated (But there's always something to learn or take away from them so always keep your eyes and ears open.... Sales and customer service man. Hated it [mostly sales] most times but the things I took away were valuable... Like marketting myself or an item or service etc. and how to deal with a wide variety of people). I realized that I suppose I could still utilize what I have learned along the way with my Psych major and I'll be graduating soon... I want to work up to become a professor and with the downtime I may or may not have I plan on having a seperate stream(s?) of income in a related field as well.
I went to junior college, got my AA degree and transferred to a four year institution. And I am majoring in art lol I’m a senior now. The difference in my situation is that I received a full ride academic merit scholarship. Basically everything is paid off. No debt and No loans were taken out. I would say that I learned a lot more of the basic art fundamentals from UA-cam, skill-share and other online learning platforms. The art they teach you at university is not very practical and a waste of time (in my honest opinion). Although it really depends on the program offerings at each university. I will be graduating next spring and I’m glad I’m not in debt. But tbh, most college degrees are becoming useless now a days. My cousin earned a business degree and he is still working at the local Starbucks. (No shame to him or others who do). It all ties back to networking and connections and people learning to market themselves. (Which I think college takes a lot of time off)
As someone who studied drawing at home for years, then studied drawing among other things for 2 years Fine Art Practice at technical college I can say that the idea that you improve the same way and at the same rate at home to be a myth. I don't learn well online due to the massive distractions, and an inability to self motivate to that degree. I'd only have stuck to what is safe and comfortable, as I think many people would. If I'd stayed at home I'd have wasted way more time doing it the wrong way and I made sure to use equipment that I didnt and couldnt have at home. That said I wouldn't go to study art in the US for a full 3 years at a big expensive traditional university. I've also seen those students who spent their time tying balloons to strings or putting crusty panties on the wall, aka modern artists. They didnt get that the value of an art degree is what skills you learn from it , not the piece of paper at the end. They made it useless through their own choices. Then when I asked why they're doing the 3rd year they didn't know - just that its the thing to be done. Which is crazy to me. You're supposed to learn what you need to learn and get out. The 3rd year was mostly about essays anyway not even art making.
I remember wanting to major in something art related SO heavy and then I realized every point made and was like “But why teach me how to paint in college when I already had painting classes in high school and already knew how to paint?” Lmao
I landed on a job as an illustrator amd digital artist. Although I realized that I sjould also improve my english grammar, communication skills and problem solving. If you excell with those skills, it can boost your talent as well. Flexibility will save the day.
I just graduate with Pastry & Baking Arts Degree you just gotta be smart where you get your education. I didn't spend 4 years of college or go to La Corden Bleu, instead, I went to a trade school and spend 2 years, lived with my parents and I don't have any student loans lmao. I got a job working at Disney as a pastry chef! It depends where you wanna go and to have a safety net. You don't need to go to school as a culinarist unlike Pastry and baking
If it's culinary arts you want, a lot of high schools have started culinary arts programs as part of specialized/vocational career schools. There are two such specialized high schools near me for two different public school districts. I'm guessing if you're really interested in that, you'd have already been enrolled in such a school, studied it for four years for free, and be completely prepared for the workforce without every needing to go to college.
Yeah, I'm an Artist and have been selling art for 27 years now,, not the expensive art, my range is from 150 to 300 bucks a piece, so I decide to start college to get a bachelor's in fine arts, COOL! How fun would this be! Yet, in the middle of the 2nd semester, I dropped the course and took up a business major. No Not gen! Realizing that I didn't have a issue with selling my art, MY issue was HOW to sell my art.. Best decision EVER!!! Still painting and selling art, just with more sense.
You know, when I was a kid, I always wanted to go to an art school and major in art. Lmfao thank god reality railed me in the head. Good content as always, Shane! 1,000 likes!
Shane, in Canada I did a one year certificate in Culinary Arts and the following year a one year certificate in Baking and Pastry. Even if I enjoy cooking and baking, my of the students in my class including me did not find jobs in culinary and baking and pastry business. I volunteered once in a restaurant and it was not exactly pleasant because the chefs make people work like dogs for many hours and get nothing to eat. I did my field placement in baking and it was all about speed, precision, and equality. The bakers would get up at 2:00 a.m in the morning and work there for 12 hours or more. I loved the Baking and Pastry program, but I hated the Culinary Arts program because the chef instructors were not particularly very nice to me. I was not treated fairly and they marked me far lower than what I deserved. I was very poor at presentation and cleaning meat and fish and chopping vegetables evenly. What I look for for food in restaurants is taste more than presentation. I still bake and decorate cakes, cookies, pies, and cupcakes, but I do it as a hobby and I bake for my family, neighbors, and my church especially the homeless women. The reason that I continued baking as a hobby because my baking instructors and the people in my field placement gave me more confidence and said that I was improving unlike the Culinary arts program. People are also paid very little for the amount of hard work which they do in restaurants and bakeries.
Hearing that majoring in computer animation is bad is making me go "OH SHIIIII". Well the real reason why i ended up in "Art School" is because the one I'm in promises to help me find a job and doesn't just kick me out to the curb. My teachers do care a lot and i also hate to see other people that can barely draw good attending the school. Im in it for the experience to see what schools are telling everyone, see the competition and i am studying something that didn't know anything about before going in it. turns out 3d modeling is easy as shit.
I am going to school for interactive media i know the things i am going to learn i can learn outside of that but i need the structure of a schedule so I'm paying for that
I love your videos. I sent some of them to a friend, and they told me that your videos saved their life(they're planning on going into a good industry but was going to choose a bad degree.) Thank you Shane Hummus!
Your channel is fire. Not only you educate young people help them not tk make the most common mistake in life, which can make their life pretty hard later on, but also manage to make people laugh their ass off.😂😂😂 And one question: what do you think about math education degree? I plan to get a masters on financial and business math or statistics, not sure. But what do you think? (I'm from Croatia.) And keep going. Your fans (including me ofc) love you!😁💕
As a Digital Artist/Interactive Designer for over 10 years , I would say yeah I didn't need a degree to learn the things that I do...... but the degree does help, especially during interviews, some employers do ask what school you go to or if you went to a decent school they would say Ahh I know that school..... and I heard that some HR workers sometime skip over no degree applicants before they even get to your portfolio.. Also some jobs require a degree even in the digital art field particularly if you're going for a position where you manage other artist like art director or creative director .. I even seen one company asking for a masters degree , but this was rare ,, most ask for a BFA... But over all the majority just care about your Experience and Portfolio which is the final say in if you get hired not the degree.. but having one does helps than not. Also Computer Science is another degree where you can learn everything online ..... but why is it still ranked so high? even if you make good money, the degree it self shouldn't be so high. on your stem list... there are plenty of people here on youtube who learned everything about computer science and programming online.
lol haha I went to an Art school in primary school, my childhood dream was to be a painter or animator (painting cartoons or films)... it's funny watching this but I realized early on that I didn't know what to do with painting so I moved on to learning languages at school instead and ended up doing a Communications, PR and Media degree... I get jobs in marketing, advertising and web design after...
Wow surprised that you only kept this to a top 10 list. In all seriousness though I actually have an art degree but as you pointed out I’m a trust fund baby. After college I got a graduate degree in my dad’s field and he got me a high paying job with a phone call. But at least college was a fun four years and I got to explore my passion lol.
Hello Shane I need your opinion. I’m a teenager and I want to get a job. Would I be better working for Target where they have a minimum wage of about $15 and an employee discount, or working as a waiter where I can have a potential for tips and a food discount? I’m wondering which would possibly be better in the long run?
I got a fine art certificate it didn’t took me years, it only took me six to nine months, teacher told me that best way to improved your ability artistic level is only practice and read books. No need degree. Any art degree is a waste of time, just go to Udemy or skillshare. Edit: practice art if you have a passion. If you like Computer then go for it.
So flunked out of my first university then went to community college and I'm only 4 weeks in and I'm already failing my classes. I tried to sign up for the airforce but I don't meet the health requirements. It's pretty obvious I'm not meant for college and my back up is out the window. So what am I supposed to do?
@@Jana0526 At my first university I was doing psychology, I didn't even get the chance to take classes for my major because I failed all the GEs. At Community College I'm doing natural science and I'm still taking mostly GEs but I'm barely holding onto a 2.0
personally, can't any degrees with math cus math is hard, and I don't want anyone's life in my hands when I'm so clumsy and forgetful. totally forgot about business degrees until recently. just don't know what I'd do with a business degree. I settled on Graphic design and hopefully UX design as a middle ground between money and my comfort zone. sure I could learn some of it online but I think I would benefit more going for a degree since I'd like to explore other things too while in college and I have a hard time finding either right resources or keeping up with it after it starts getting hard. plus it just looks better to get a degree, if I don't end up in it I was going to go into HR which doesn't really care which degree you have as long as you have one. might even wrap right back around into graphic design that route if I presented something while working HR
Hey Shane I was wondering if you could go more in depth into the architect career path. From what I seen the architecture degree has mix feeling and reviews from people and wanted to hear your opinion on it.
I see what you mean, but don’t you think that this student loan debt crisis is particular to the United States??? I’d like to hear from someone getting these art degrees, but not having any student loan debt , like for example, if they went to school in Europe where college is free if you’re a European citizen. Also, you didn’t mention the dance degree- why not?
I think like you've noted in other video's, if art is your passion, do something that will pay the bills and in your free time pursue art, get better at it, and maybe even get to the point that you can make it a full time living. Oh, and the blurb about "allowance" cracked me up!!!
Peach fuzz stubble. I almost got an art degree. But ended up changing to finance degree. Absolutely don’t regret it. Absolutely agree. Not in the market for art degrees
I know I’m late to the conversation, but I just discovered this video today and boy, do I have stuff to say regarding art degrees. Art has always been my passion so when I was 18 and fresh out of high school (READ: naive as hell lol), I went to college to get an Associate of Arts degree. I had no idea what I wanted to do for a living, all I knew was that I wanted an art career. I’m surprised Associate of Arts wasn’t on this list because talk about useless. I couldn’t do anything with that degree, so I eventually went back to school to major in K-12 Art Education. Big mistake. After graduating, I couldn’t find a job locally so I ended up taking a completely unrelated job that only required a high school diploma, just because I needed something to pay the bills. So I agree about Art Education being a useless degree. Then I went back to school a third time, this time to get a Commercial Art Technology certification so that I could do graphic design. Not a degree necessarily, but still useless. So after many years of wasting my time and money, I’m now in my 40s and planning to go to school for a more practical, in demand job because I’m not a trust fund baby and I don’t want to be self employed. Sorry for the long winded comment, I just had a lot to say.
Our student loans here are nowhere near as evil as yours. There is 3% interest (roundabouts) You only pay back your loan if you make £25k plus which I think is a bit over $30k dollars If you become disabled, permanently sick or die the loan is written off. After 30 years, the loan is written off if you haven't paid. If you are unemployed or have a job that pays less than $30k you don't pay back at all.
ibrahim abdullah It’s almost the same here in Australia. However it’s $45K for each taxable income year and below that amount we don’t pay back either. We don’t have interest, just every June/July, we have an inflation rate (1-2%) added to the total amount of debt the student has collected. The limit is 100K of student debt for all students except for those doing Medicine, Aviation, Pharmaceutical degrees etc, it’s 150K. The student debt only gets written off if you pass away, we don’t have that 30 years loan write off thing you guys have.
I'm a senior in high school and I am passionate about wildlife conservation, but I have chosen to go with statistics because you convinced me to make a good decision when choosing a degree. So far my favorite classes in my senior year are AP Statistics and AP Research. My top choices for college are BYU and UT Austin. I can still do my passion in my free time (animals and wildlife), while still having a good degree.
@Mark Serrano Stats major here. The cool thing about stats is you can apply it to any field you’re interested in! If you’re into wildlife conservation, you can use your stats major to work in the numbers side of a conservation center or something. That way you still work on what you love and it’s easier to find a job.
I really want to know your thoughts a bout graphic design careers? I’m a student at university and I’m studying graphic design as my undergraduate degree and after watching your video I must admit that i’m sacred about my future
Same here I’m studying Visual effects, I’m trying to make a transition into UI/UX design. Since you are studying graphic design, it would be a lot more easier to transition.
Please make a video on becoming a pharmacist, I’m a senior this year and have always loved medicine and helping people out. I would love to know the pros and cons.
Employer: I see you have have a degree in fine art, so you know Photoshop and Illustrator? Me: Well, no, but I have a keen eye for design, and I can paint and draw extremely well. Employer: (Looking at me like I just stepped out of a time machine) You mean, like, with real paint?
Loans here are crazy. Im from Brazil. We have loans there. But when you sign the contract, the interest rate is set and it doesnt change. Yeah, you pay interest. But it doesnt build up like it does here.
Crazy thing is I majored in media arts but I'm not taking art classes I've takin mass communication,announced radio and television , writing for electronic media how useful are those
I noticed that in many of your videos you talk about how some degrees rank compared to others (for example, you mentioned that Media Arts ranks at position 673). If you don't mind, could you share the link to the complete list? I'm curious to see it.
They should spend the money on phone or computer which makes sense. If you love art then go for certificate of fine arts or culinary arts, six or nine months.
Im about to take fine arts. Im taking graphics design as my specialization and animation and cgi as my elective course. I just felt like taking a computer engineering course to become an animator is just stupid. Would like your insight in this matter. Thank you!
Since a lot of people watching this video have some knowledge of art. Im 18 and i get my associates degree in Graphic Arts Technology in just a few months. I have barely paid anything because of scholarships. Did i waste my time on the degree? I dont plan on getting a 4 year in a straight up design or art degree
It depends on the country you want to work tbh graphic design is in high demand in some countries, a dead field in others. It's important to build a good portfolio regardless
One of my Friends wants to do a Degree in Digital Arts specialising in Game design and Animation, i told him rather take a Computer science course cause coding is more valued but he seems Committed, is a degree like that good and Reliable enough for him?
Lol me being 16 and going partying, getting drunk with my parents and buying wine at a grape harvest (idk how it’s called in English) fair in Slovakia😹
At least in California, the degree you recieve doesn't necessarily matter for k-12 education, it's what subjects are listed on your teaching credential. A lot of programs will do combined degree/credential, but you can recieve it independently, as well.
Loved the video Shane, thank you for your sacrifice in researching these degrees. If you haven’t already, I think doing a video on the trades (welding, carpentry, etc.) would be cool.
Personally I'd suggest if people want to pursue art as a career they should start by working some other job that can fund your art creation and then do it on the side until you gain recognition for it organically then you can start making money from that.
If I want to become a game artist or a game designer, should I go get a degree? Or is this something that I can teach myself and not have any problems when I’m looking for a job at some game company?
can you please review Hotel and Tourism management, all of my close friends that are girls switched their majors to it and i don’t even know what it is.
Thank you for your awesome videos there very helpful . I'm 15 yrs old and all the degrees that I thought I wanted was the worst ones u listed 😂 now I have an insight on on how NOT to be in debt. Because that's like on of my biggest fears. So thank you so much.
So, this reminds me of the defunct art institute colleges. And the scammy overpriced Le Cordon Blue cooking schools. And ITT Tech. Do a video on For Profit schools and how to tell the scammy ones from the good ones. There are a few for profit schools out there that do care about the quality of education their students are getting but it's hard for most people to tell the difference. Also-make a point to mention that 90% of the time, if you have your heart set on working in say culinary arts or cosmetology- the local trade school/community college will provide you a far better bang ($$$ and education wise) than say Le Gordon Blue or private run beauty school.
Would you say an animation degree is worth it? Asking for my sis, she ultimately wants to work for herself on social media but it's always good to have a backup plan
funny it even enough my oldest cousin she pick fine arts and she pretty richest of all my cousins including me and got a high paying job and her job is not even relate to arts
Ehh, after all these years, (now I'm 30), I see that I'm better off, that I have no art degree, but woaa...a few people I've seen, & a few I know, or met, have more debt than I do. I have to pay back a real small college loan. I thought, (at age 18, & 21), that having an Illustration Design, or Graphic Design degree was a wise thing to have..cause some others were striving for those degrees. But, being in soo much debt, is kinda not worth it. Ciao.
The best art universities: -UA-cam University -Skillshare -Udemy -Domestika -Local Art (Ran by Businessmen and Women) -Community School (go useful than useless degrees) If you cannot think of buying courses in Udemy, Skillshare, Domestika Stick with UA-cam!! 😎
I have been watching your videos nonstop recently! I decided to switch my major and I’ve decided on Information Technology, can you give me some feedback on whether IT is a good degree to get my four years in?
HAHAHAHAHAHA dude this was FUCKING HILARIOUS. Seriously I needed this video man I laughed so hard alone in my kitchen waiting for the Chinese food to heat up in the microwave man oh jeez u have no idea, my cheeks are in pain from laughing so hard. Love your vids no homo man it really is good content and probably the most relevant down to earth channel that has realistic value for people in our generation
Drop and get a job at a high-end restaurant. You'll learn more in a shorter period of time and get paid to do it. Culinary arts degrees usually involve going into debt that you have almost no hope of paying off.
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Can you do a video on the geologist career/geology degree? Or just tell me what you think about it, thanks :)
Is LLB a good option ?
For anyone interested in culinary arts DO NOT GO TO CULINARY SCHOOL. I've worked at two of the best restaurants in the country (multiple Michelin stars and James Beard awards, not just an opinion) with zero prior experience. You learn way more working at a high-end restaurant than you will learn at culinary school and you will make money doing it. Going to culinary school almost guarantees that you will go into debt that you are very unlikely to get out of. You're unlikely to be able to even start paying down your debt for at least ten years after culinary school.
Thanks for leaving a fair comment
@Cameron Thurtle Less so for a vocational school probably, but you're probably still better off getting experience and learning while being paid than paying to learn without really getting real world experience.
The only benefit I can see to culinary arts is that the degree(at least at my old college) did give you certification in kitchen sanitation/safety along with some classes in inventory management. So I could see the slight benefit if you're looking to open a restaurant, but it still seems like a better idea to get a business degree in that case.
Plus I'd be willing to bet you'll learn a lot more about that stuff from simply working in a kitchen like you said.
Why bother going to these expansive art schools when you can get better by going to udemy or one year art program for a certificate, or become a chef by going to real restaurants and learning there.
Some even became a registered nurse before they become a chef and got their own established dream restaurant.
Me watching people doing “painting ” as a major:
*are you going to paint houses and buildings right?*
😂😂😂
Better idea than fine arts I guess!
grafitti far better
For almost all of the degrees you listed I didn’t know whether I should laugh or cry lol.
haha you have to do both for the sake of art
I think I skipped a beat when he said Fine Arts 😂
You skipped a beat major in music to improve your rhythm 😂
Laugh at the degree, cry for the students.
Augusta Mwila the one that got me was painting but it also made me sad because some people out there passionate about it.
"Useless art degrees". Redundant!
My A.A. was in Fine Arts. Decided "screw this", took some extra math and physics classes, and transferred into a Computer Science B.S. program.
If anyone really wants to be an art major, Fine Arts is still a bad choice because you'll likely just be trained by your Dadaist drawing professor to Macgyver together some trash you rummaged from the school dumpster, tack on some ""deep"" intellectual meaning to it, and debate your peers on whether it's art or not. Seriously.
😂
Lmao screw this. You’re one determined smart person
Same here, wanted to be artist, saw bad condition of art collages in my country, got into computer science, got interested in industrial design, and now trying to shift into it.
"Man I really wanna learn how to bake! Let me spend $100k for a piece of paper that says I can bake instead of spending $0 on UA-cam videos on how to bake"
Exactly the point
If you want to learn how to bake go to culinary school 💀
I technically majored in Art, took graphic design courses with the intention of getting into web design. It ended up working out, but I had already decided to put more emphasis on working in dev by the time I landed full time work. It pays better and there's more opportunity for creative problem solving if you can code too. Turns out being a developer with a knack for graphics is a pretty in demand niche.
I should also note that during my first job I completed a master's in IT, which made me stand out to employers even more. Still had to learn a lot on my own though, and this definitely wasn't the only route into the field. Probably not the most efficient route either!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Cheers!
It depends why you go to school as an Art Major. I work for myself but wanted to learn how to be consistent in it and wanted to build my portfolio and learn new skills. I gained all this and more. :-D
For these degrees, learn good skills for free at UA-cam University!
Haha right
Robert A i second this
You may as well it's cheaper than Zoom University
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It's LIKE YOU READ my MIND. lol I finally settled on just becoming an Art teacher and possibly if I ever stray from the path then I'll create a portfolio and statements to get into being an Art Director. I have some skills that are unrelated but very helpful from having previous super unrelated jobs that I hated (But there's always something to learn or take away from them so always keep your eyes and ears open.... Sales and customer service man. Hated it [mostly sales] most times but the things I took away were valuable... Like marketting myself or an item or service etc. and how to deal with a wide variety of people). I realized that I suppose I could still utilize what I have learned along the way with my Psych major and I'll be graduating soon... I want to work up to become a professor and with the downtime I may or may not have I plan on having a seperate stream(s?) of income in a related field as well.
Thanks for sharing that Julisa. I wish you good luck in your career
I went to junior college, got my AA degree and transferred to a four year institution. And I am majoring in art lol I’m a senior now. The difference in my situation is that I received a full ride academic merit scholarship. Basically everything is paid off. No debt and No loans were taken out. I would say that I learned a lot more of the basic art fundamentals from UA-cam, skill-share and other online learning platforms. The art they teach you at university is not very practical and a waste of time (in my honest opinion). Although it really depends on the program offerings at each university. I will be graduating next spring and I’m glad I’m not in debt. But tbh, most college degrees are becoming useless now a days. My cousin earned a business degree and he is still working at the local Starbucks. (No shame to him or others who do). It all ties back to networking and connections and people learning to market themselves. (Which I think college takes a lot of time off)
Thanks for sharing that Victoria
As someone who studied drawing at home for years, then studied drawing among other things for 2 years Fine Art Practice at technical college I can say that the idea that you improve the same way and at the same rate at home to be a myth. I don't learn well online due to the massive distractions, and an inability to self motivate to that degree. I'd only have stuck to what is safe and comfortable, as I think many people would. If I'd stayed at home I'd have wasted way more time doing it the wrong way and I made sure to use equipment that I didnt and couldnt have at home. That said I wouldn't go to study art in the US for a full 3 years at a big expensive traditional university. I've also seen those students who spent their time tying balloons to strings or putting crusty panties on the wall, aka modern artists. They didnt get that the value of an art degree is what skills you learn from it , not the piece of paper at the end. They made it useless through their own choices. Then when I asked why they're doing the 3rd year they didn't know - just that its the thing to be done. Which is crazy to me. You're supposed to learn what you need to learn and get out. The 3rd year was mostly about essays anyway not even art making.
I remember wanting to major in something art related SO heavy and then I realized every point made and was like “But why teach me how to paint in college when I already had painting classes in high school and already knew how to paint?” Lmao
Exactly Aleila
I landed on a job as an illustrator amd digital artist. Although I realized that I sjould also improve my english grammar, communication skills and problem solving. If you excell with those skills, it can boost your talent as well. Flexibility will save the day.
Baking and Pastry Engineering
haha Right
Baking and Pastry Technological Science Studies
I can't believe that people pay for these degrees.
Right.. And suffer debts for it lol
I just graduate with Pastry & Baking Arts Degree you just gotta be smart where you get your education. I didn't spend 4 years of college or go to La Corden Bleu, instead, I went to a trade school and spend 2 years, lived with my parents and I don't have any student loans lmao. I got a job working at Disney as a pastry chef! It depends where you wanna go and to have a safety net. You don't need to go to school as a culinarist unlike Pastry and baking
If it's culinary arts you want, a lot of high schools have started culinary arts programs as part of specialized/vocational career schools. There are two such specialized high schools near me for two different public school districts. I'm guessing if you're really interested in that, you'd have already been enrolled in such a school, studied it for four years for free, and be completely prepared for the workforce without every needing to go to college.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this
Yeah, I'm an Artist and have been selling art for 27 years now,, not the expensive art, my range is from 150 to 300 bucks a piece, so I decide to start college to get a bachelor's in fine arts, COOL! How fun would this be! Yet, in the middle of the 2nd semester, I dropped the course and took up a business major. No Not gen! Realizing that I didn't have a issue with selling my art, MY issue was HOW to sell my art.. Best decision EVER!!! Still painting and selling art, just with more sense.
^This
You know, when I was a kid, I always wanted to go to an art school and major in art. Lmfao thank god reality railed me in the head. Good content as always, Shane! 1,000 likes!
Thanks for your feedback Trish
Shane, in Canada I did a one year certificate in Culinary Arts and the following year a one year certificate in Baking and Pastry. Even if I enjoy cooking and baking, my of the students in my class including me did not find jobs in culinary and baking and pastry business. I volunteered once in a restaurant and it was not exactly pleasant because the chefs make people work like dogs for many hours and get nothing to eat. I did my field placement in baking and it was all about speed, precision, and equality. The bakers would get up at 2:00 a.m in the morning and work there for 12 hours or more. I loved the Baking and Pastry program, but I hated the Culinary Arts program because the chef instructors were not particularly very nice to me. I was not treated fairly and they marked me far lower than what I deserved. I was very poor at presentation and cleaning meat and fish and chopping vegetables evenly. What I look for for food in restaurants is taste more than presentation. I still bake and decorate cakes, cookies, pies, and cupcakes, but I do it as a hobby and I bake for my family, neighbors, and my church especially the homeless women. The reason that I continued baking as a hobby because my baking instructors and the people in my field placement gave me more confidence and said that I was improving unlike the Culinary arts program. People are also paid very little for the amount of hard work which they do in restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks for sharing that Silvia
I feel bad for you 😭💔😔
Hearing that majoring in computer animation is bad is making me go "OH SHIIIII". Well the real reason why i ended up in "Art School" is because the one I'm in promises to help me find a job and doesn't just kick me out to the curb. My teachers do care a lot and i also hate to see other people that can barely draw good attending the school. Im in it for the experience to see what schools are telling everyone, see the competition and i am studying something that didn't know anything about before going in it. turns out 3d modeling is easy as shit.
I am going to school for interactive media i know the things i am going to learn i can learn outside of that but i need the structure of a schedule so I'm paying for that
What about fashion buying and merchandising please xx
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still remember when you were 20k subs. Its crazy how your channel has grown
True.. Well thanks for sticking out
I love your videos. I sent some of them to a friend, and they told me that your videos saved their life(they're planning on going into a good industry but was going to choose a bad degree.) Thank you Shane Hummus!
You rock!
Have you done a video on art therapy, music therapy, recreational therapy, and dance/movement therapy?
Your channel is fire. Not only you educate young people help them not tk make the most common mistake in life, which can make their life pretty hard later on, but also manage to make people laugh their ass off.😂😂😂 And one question: what do you think about math education degree? I plan to get a masters on financial and business math or statistics, not sure. But what do you think? (I'm from Croatia.) And keep going. Your fans (including me ofc) love you!😁💕
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This guy is my career and financial advisor!!🙂🙂🙂
Wow
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS Please keep doing what you are doing and great content!! Your helping people significantly..keep it up!😀😀👍👍👍
As a Digital Artist/Interactive Designer for over 10 years , I would say yeah I didn't need a degree to learn the things that I do...... but the degree does help, especially during interviews, some employers do ask what school you go to or if you went to a decent school they would say Ahh I know that school..... and I heard that some HR workers sometime skip over no degree applicants before they even get to your portfolio.. Also some jobs require a degree even in the digital art field particularly if you're going for a position where you manage other artist like art director or creative director .. I even seen one company asking for a masters degree , but this was rare ,, most ask for a BFA... But over all the majority just care about your Experience and Portfolio which is the final say in if you get hired not the degree.. but having one does helps than not. Also Computer Science is another degree where you can learn everything online ..... but why is it still ranked so high? even if you make good money, the degree it self shouldn't be so high. on your stem list... there are plenty of people here on youtube who learned everything about computer science and programming online.
Thanks for sharing that, Cheers!
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS no problem , you should look into reranking computer science degree
Really computer science damn and I heard that you don't need knowledge in coding
Learning computer science is really very hard .
@@Brandonhayhew it is very hard
Can you please make a video on the most flexible degrees.
Which ones do you want me to cover?
lol haha I went to an Art school in primary school, my childhood dream was to be a painter or animator (painting cartoons or films)... it's funny watching this but I realized early on that I didn't know what to do with painting so I moved on to learning languages at school instead and ended up doing a Communications, PR and Media degree... I get jobs in marketing, advertising and web design after...
Wow surprised that you only kept this to a top 10 list. In all seriousness though I actually have an art degree but as you pointed out I’m a trust fund baby. After college I got a graduate degree in my dad’s field and he got me a high paying job with a phone call. But at least college was a fun four years and I got to explore my passion lol.
Haha right.. feel free to add more 😂
Lucky you! 😀
Hello Shane I need your opinion. I’m a teenager and I want to get a job. Would I be better working for Target where they have a minimum wage of about $15 and an employee discount, or working as a waiter where I can have a potential for tips and a food discount? I’m wondering which would possibly be better in the long run?
Hey Evan! I might make a video for you. Just stay tuned
I got a fine art certificate it didn’t took me years, it only took me six to nine months, teacher told me that best way to improved your ability artistic level is only practice and read books. No need degree. Any art degree is a waste of time, just go to Udemy or skillshare.
Edit: practice art if you have a passion. If you like Computer then go for it.
But office worker artist do requires degree tho
What does office artist requires them to do, can there be alternatives then art degree.
Agreed!
@@ShaneHummus expect for animations degree, because it requires a lot of working
So flunked out of my first university then went to community college and I'm only 4 weeks in and I'm already failing my classes. I tried to sign up for the airforce but I don't meet the health requirements. It's pretty obvious I'm not meant for college and my back up is out the window. So what am I supposed to do?
What were you trying to go to school for? Maybe try going for something else or go to trade school.
@@Jana0526 At my first university I was doing psychology, I didn't even get the chance to take classes for my major because I failed all the GEs. At Community College I'm doing natural science and I'm still taking mostly GEs but I'm barely holding onto a 2.0
What do you intend to be in the future?
Could you do a video on best/worst humanities?
Noted. Which ones do you want me to cover?
personally, can't any degrees with math cus math is hard, and I don't want anyone's life in my hands when I'm so clumsy and forgetful. totally forgot about business degrees until recently. just don't know what I'd do with a business degree. I settled on Graphic design and hopefully UX design as a middle ground between money and my comfort zone. sure I could learn some of it online but I think I would benefit more going for a degree since I'd like to explore other things too while in college and I have a hard time finding either right resources or keeping up with it after it starts getting hard. plus it just looks better to get a degree, if I don't end up in it I was going to go into HR which doesn't really care which degree you have as long as you have one. might even wrap right back around into graphic design that route if I presented something while working HR
Hey Shane I was wondering if you could go more in depth into the architect career path. From what I seen the architecture degree has mix feeling and reviews from people and wanted to hear your opinion on it.
Noted Martin. stay tuned for that
Great video, I'm currently going to college and getting a degree in JPPL.
I see what you mean, but don’t you think that this student loan debt crisis is particular to the United States??? I’d like to hear from someone getting these art degrees, but not having any student loan debt , like for example, if they went to school in Europe where college is free if you’re a European citizen.
Also, you didn’t mention the dance degree- why not?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I respect that
I think like you've noted in other video's, if art is your passion, do something that will pay the bills and in your free time pursue art, get better at it, and maybe even get to the point that you can make it a full time living.
Oh, and the blurb about "allowance" cracked me up!!!
Thanks for watching Chas
Peach fuzz stubble. I almost got an art degree. But ended up changing to finance degree. Absolutely don’t regret it. Absolutely agree. Not in the market for art degrees
Hey Raul! Nice to see you here again.. Cheers!
I know I’m late to the conversation, but I just discovered this video today and boy, do I have stuff to say regarding art degrees. Art has always been my passion so when I was 18 and fresh out of high school (READ: naive as hell lol), I went to college to get an Associate of Arts degree. I had no idea what I wanted to do for a living, all I knew was that I wanted an art career. I’m surprised Associate of Arts wasn’t on this list because talk about useless. I couldn’t do anything with that degree, so I eventually went back to school to major in K-12 Art Education. Big mistake. After graduating, I couldn’t find a job locally so I ended up taking a completely unrelated job that only required a high school diploma, just because I needed something to pay the bills. So I agree about Art Education being a useless degree. Then I went back to school a third time, this time to get a Commercial Art Technology certification so that I could do graphic design. Not a degree necessarily, but still useless. So after many years of wasting my time and money, I’m now in my 40s and planning to go to school for a more practical, in demand job because I’m not a trust fund baby and I don’t want to be self employed. Sorry for the long winded comment, I just had a lot to say.
It's never too late to try new things. You got this!
Our student loans here are nowhere near as evil as yours.
There is 3% interest (roundabouts)
You only pay back your loan if you make £25k plus which I think is a bit over $30k dollars
If you become disabled, permanently sick or die the loan is written off.
After 30 years, the loan is written off if you haven't paid.
If you are unemployed or have a job that pays less than $30k you don't pay back at all.
What country is this?
Pasquale Rossi the UK
ibrahim abdullah It’s almost the same here in Australia. However it’s $45K for each taxable income year and below that amount we don’t pay back either. We don’t have interest, just every June/July, we have an inflation rate (1-2%) added to the total amount of debt the student has collected.
The limit is 100K of student debt for all students except for those doing Medicine, Aviation, Pharmaceutical degrees etc, it’s 150K. The student debt only gets written off if you pass away, we don’t have that 30 years loan write off thing you guys have.
Sadly
Hey Shane! Could you please do a social science tier list?
I might consider that. Which ones do you want me to cover?
Yo, thank you for dropping this video. I really appreciate all the cool effects. I'm sure this video took hours just to edit!!
That's true Luis. Looooooong hours spent here
I'm a senior in high school and I am passionate about wildlife conservation, but I have chosen to go with statistics because you convinced me to make a good decision when choosing a degree. So far my favorite classes in my senior year are AP Statistics and AP Research. My top choices for college are BYU and UT Austin. I can still do my passion in my free time (animals and wildlife), while still having a good degree.
Thanks for sharing that Mark. Good luck!
@Mark Serrano Stats major here. The cool thing about stats is you can apply it to any field you’re interested in! If you’re into wildlife conservation, you can use your stats major to work in the numbers side of a conservation center or something. That way you still work on what you love and it’s easier to find a job.
Elijah it's right, besides you can always get a minor in your passion, also you can go back to the u once you get a stable job
I really want to know your thoughts a bout graphic design careers? I’m a student at university and I’m studying graphic design as my undergraduate degree and after watching your video I must admit that i’m sacred about my future
Same here I’m studying Visual effects, I’m trying to make a transition into UI/UX design. Since you are studying graphic design, it would be a lot more easier to transition.
Please make a video on becoming a pharmacist, I’m a senior this year and have always loved medicine and helping people out. I would love to know the pros and cons.
Maybe in the future Khyree
Is graphic design and architecture worth going to college for?
Love the video bro! very practical and accurate. Not to mention, entertaining.
Appreciate it!
This video was so funny, thanks again for all these uploads!
Glad you like them!
Baking and Pastry Arts was 829/835, the worst on the list, .... What were the bottom 6?
Employer: I see you have have a degree in fine art, so you know Photoshop and Illustrator?
Me: Well, no, but I have a keen eye for design, and I can paint and draw extremely well.
Employer: (Looking at me like I just stepped out of a time machine) You mean, like, with real paint?
haha
Now you said it, a list of design degrees would be interesting.
Good thing. I'm good in photoshop. 😅
@@mikasauchiha6785 I only use GIMP and Inkscape, just to be rebellious.
Loans here are crazy. Im from Brazil. We have loans there. But when you sign the contract, the interest rate is set and it doesnt change. Yeah, you pay interest. But it doesnt build up like it does here.
Thanks for sharing that Veronica
Crazy thing is I majored in media arts but I'm not taking art classes I've takin mass communication,announced radio and television , writing for electronic media how useful are those
Good luck David
@@ShaneHummus I ask how useful are those skills u didn't answer my question
I noticed that in many of your videos you talk about how some degrees rank compared to others (for example, you mentioned that Media Arts ranks at position 673). If you don't mind, could you share the link to the complete list? I'm curious to see it.
It's on the description
@@ShaneHummus Found it! Thanks!
Back in India culinary arts has really good placements the colleges make sure you get a job.
Thanks for sharing that
I love studio art and getting feedback on my artwork but I also love the sciences so I’m going to double major in chemistry and art to have a balance
Good luck Michelle
I don't think people with art degrees have the money to afford a computer or phone and internet service to watch this video.
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They should spend the money on phone or computer which makes sense. If you love art then go for certificate of fine arts or culinary arts, six or nine months.
Im about to take fine arts. Im taking graphics design as my specialization and animation and cgi as my elective course. I just felt like taking a computer engineering course to become an animator is just stupid. Would like your insight in this matter. Thank you!
Welcome
Since a lot of people watching this video have some knowledge of art. Im 18 and i get my associates degree in Graphic Arts Technology in just a few months. I have barely paid anything because of scholarships. Did i waste my time on the degree? I dont plan on getting a 4 year in a straight up design or art degree
Thanks for sharing that. Best of luck!
It depends on the country you want to work tbh graphic design is in high demand in some countries, a dead field in others. It's important to build a good portfolio regardless
New to the channel. Not sure if this has been done yet but maybe a video with best degree pairings would be pretty cool.
Noted
One of my Friends wants to do a Degree in Digital Arts specialising in Game design and Animation, i told him rather take a Computer science course cause coding is more valued but he seems Committed, is a degree like that good and Reliable enough for him?
Same situation
That could work
how about painting art history studies engineering
what do u think is better,getting a architectural engineering degree or a dentistry degree ?
Dentistry
Haphazard suit on, I’m ready!
(Btw the legal age to buy alcohol and go clubbing is 18 here in the UK).
Wow! Young party animals haha
@@ShaneHummus the actual legal age to drink is much, much lower
Lol me being 16 and going partying, getting drunk with my parents and buying wine at a grape harvest (idk how it’s called in English) fair in Slovakia😹
At least in California, the degree you recieve doesn't necessarily matter for k-12 education, it's what subjects are listed on your teaching credential. A lot of programs will do combined degree/credential, but you can recieve it independently, as well.
Thanks for sharing your insights Austin
Loved the video Shane, thank you for your sacrifice in researching these degrees. If you haven’t already, I think doing a video on the trades (welding, carpentry, etc.) would be cool.
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Personally I'd suggest if people want to pursue art as a career they should start by working some other job that can fund your art creation and then do it on the side until you gain recognition for it organically then you can start making money from that.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Do a tier list or just a video that tells us the best degree from each industry or field.
Noted
Great video Shane! Very informative and entertaining. Keep it up!
Glad you enjoyed it!
If I want to become a game artist or a game designer, should I go get a degree? Or is this something that I can teach myself and not have any problems when I’m looking for a job at some game company?
Stay tuned for that
Can you make a video on law school?
For a future content Tonya
@@ShaneHummus Ok Daddy. I'll wait
What's the site that you used that lists the majors from high level to low level?
Check description
My prediction was so close! I didn’t think there was anyway there was a worse art major than Art Teacher Education.
haha you almost nailed it
What do you think about getting a master's or phd in physics?
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What do you plan to do?
@@infamouscrusader3363 I'm not quite sure. I am in high school and an trying to figure if I want to major in computer science or physics.
@@elitegaming5892 Consider Computer Science. They usually involve Physics and has a higher R.O.I.
@@infamouscrusader3363 In what way does computer science involve physics? In a job or do you mean I'll take physics classes in college?
Hey do you have a video discussing social work LOL I need your wisdom
Stay tuned
Really great video. I love you , keep going . You deserve more subscribers.
Thank you so much!
Loved the video! As always informative and helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Hello! This question is a bit off topic, but what do you think about bioinformatics degree? Is it a good option?
Anything biotechish, mathematish, csish is good. I think it's a good major in my opinion.
I might sum it up in a video. Stay tuned
can you please review Hotel and Tourism management, all of my close friends that are girls switched their majors to it and i don’t even know what it is.
Maybe in the future Garrett
Thank you for your awesome videos there very helpful . I'm 15 yrs old and all the degrees that I thought I wanted was the worst ones u listed 😂 now I have an insight on on how NOT to be in debt. Because that's like on of my biggest fears. So thank you so much.
You got this!
I'm glad that I went for computer science as a priority and made art/music as my hobby instead of the other way around lol BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!
They best way to go about it. Never major in something that people are not willing to pay you for. CS for thw win.. Cheers!
Omg same!
So, this reminds me of the defunct art institute colleges. And the scammy overpriced Le Cordon Blue cooking schools. And ITT Tech. Do a video on For Profit schools and how to tell the scammy ones from the good ones. There are a few for profit schools out there that do care about the quality of education their students are getting but it's hard for most people to tell the difference. Also-make a point to mention that 90% of the time, if you have your heart set on working in say culinary arts or cosmetology- the local trade school/community college will provide you a far better bang ($$$ and education wise) than say Le Gordon Blue or private run beauty school.
Good idea 👍
I'm working/studying to become a graphic designer, - what's your take on that,
Anonymous said it right
I just died watching this. I knew it was going to be a good one 🤣
haha thanks for watching
Would you say an animation degree is worth it? Asking for my sis, she ultimately wants to work for herself on social media but it's always good to have a backup plan
If your sister is planning to be self employed, then there is no need to get a degree
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funny it even enough my oldest cousin she pick fine arts and she pretty richest of all my cousins including me and got a high paying job and her job is not even relate to arts
But University qualification is still important when we try to find a job isn’t it?
Have you done one for IT careers? Awesome video btw man.
Not yet! Maybe soon
Shane please make a video on Is being a lawyer worth it?
Noted
Ehh, after all these years, (now I'm 30), I see that I'm better off, that I have no art degree, but woaa...a few people I've seen, & a few I know, or met, have more debt than I do. I have to pay back a real small college loan. I thought, (at age 18, & 21), that having an Illustration Design, or Graphic Design degree was a wise thing to have..cause some others were striving for those degrees. But, being in soo much debt, is kinda not worth it. Ciao.
I thought baking was a learn as you go type of set up, or apprenticeships get under someone was the other option. Or culinary school.
Damn it my dream was to go get a degree cause I love painting should I still do it or no 🥺😔
Plan it well. You know you dont really need a degree for that
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS ok I understand
The best art universities:
-UA-cam University
-Skillshare
-Udemy
-Domestika
-Local Art (Ran by Businessmen and Women)
-Community School (go useful than useless degrees)
If you cannot think of buying courses in Udemy, Skillshare, Domestika
Stick with UA-cam!! 😎
I have been watching your videos nonstop recently! I decided to switch my major and I’ve decided on Information Technology, can you give me some feedback on whether IT is a good degree to get my four years in?
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HAHAHAHAHAHA dude this was FUCKING HILARIOUS. Seriously I needed this video man I laughed so hard alone in my kitchen waiting for the Chinese food to heat up in the microwave man oh jeez u have no idea, my cheeks are in pain from laughing so hard. Love your vids no homo man it really is good content and probably the most relevant down to earth channel that has realistic value for people in our generation
Glad you were entertained 😂
What about martial arts working in a dojo?
Hmm I might cover that in the future
I’m taking a culinary arts diploma (2 years) would it be a better idea to drop out or continue the education
Plan it out well Sophia. Good luck!
Drop and get a job at a high-end restaurant. You'll learn more in a shorter period of time and get paid to do it. Culinary arts degrees usually involve going into debt that you have almost no hope of paying off.
@@ahorowitz15 I'll consider it.