Thanks to all the hunters for playing! It was a great time. Please go and give them a follow on UA-cam or Twitch! Gauthier - a composer who releases a lot of Hollow Knight inspired music, and Hollow Knight fan project music www.youtube.com/@pharloomsmusician-gauthier Skitter - one of the top 112% speedrunners and streams regularly on Twitch www.twitch.tv/skitter_hk daanolav - one of Hollow Knight's top trick and skip finders www.youtube.com/@daanolav Hardcore - made the amazing VocalKnight mod and regularly streams on Twitch as well www.youtube.com/@makeit_hardcore www.twitch.tv/makeit_hardcore Hunthussle - one of the first players to do Pantheon 5 hitless and Any Radiance, an O.G. challenge runner and is posting videos again www.youtube.com/@HuntHussle
With all these hunt videos I am still waiting for a video where you sit down with the hunters showing them your POV so we can hear all the "Wait, You went THAT way?!?"
they played the final fight so smart, cycling players one at a time. the dogpile strat would just lead to friendly fire, and when everyone is dead it gives fire time to fight the boss unhindered. great team of hunters, victory well earned = )
@@Freedmoon44 I agree, 2 or 3 at once seems like a good number so that you don't just have people waiting outside doing nothing but the boss room is also never empty
The hollow knight community when their mental health deteriorates to a point where we ought not call them human, for their desire for silksong be stronger than thee desire to live.
I love how you're leaving THK and they think you're playing some kind of 4D chess but you actually just needed to heal. "The only reason he could be leaving is he's trying to lure us out!" Incredible run. GG even though you lost.
So I was confused when he said game timescale because I had never heard of the term before. Were your moves and animations slowed down, or did you physically see things going 50% slower?
@@ripmyacc05since it's multiplayer, and fire was at normal speed, it was just their movement + most ability speeds that were reduced. fortunately they are playing within the limits of physics :) (lighthearted)
@@blastlightstar gotcha, thanks. I was thinking that too, but fireborn made a comment about them not being able to react fast enough which made me second guess myself
One of my new favorite Speedrunner vs Hunters videos! Felt like I had to keep a lot in since the entire match was really interesting throughout. Hope y'all enjoyed!
Best part was 17:07 the hunter saying "Omg he's amazing!!" after Fire jumped over two VS back to back! 🤯🤯🤯 was itching for more speedrunners vs hunters content, and this did NOT disappoint! 🙏🏾❤️
@@errhtube5rgtuu54erhn wow, you must be fun at parties 😝 but also at the time I made the original comment, this was the top comment that is displayed on movile the second you click on the video. You know, before you can physically look away? It still is at the time of the premiere, by the way.
Having seen a lot of these, the legitimate coordination and strategy is super impressive. The strategy for the THK fight specifically was so well done, not leaving fire time to heal or even focus on the boss, genuinely insane. It’s no wonder the hunters won this one. Great watch!
Love the fact these fellas can laugh at their own foolishness for being stacked up when you fireballed them both during that skip, and for the next few minutes working it out to make sure they don't do that anymore
Those were really competent hunters. Pretty much having 100% upkeep on Fireborn's location and not letting him roam free, setting up traps and strategies, the final fight was absolutely intense. I legit was rooting for the hunters to win here. Like they deserved the win.
It would have been cool, and kinda funny, if you made it so the dream nail would instantly kill the ghosts, like how it actually removes ghosts in Hollow Knight. It has a pretty long windup, so I don't think it would be too OP.
@@creeperYT9824 touche, though it feels like a bandaid solution for a sawblade injury. Maybe instead, dreamwielder can be used on a player in the death animation to get a free heal/large soul boost?
These hunter videos keep getting better every iteration! Especially like the ban system. Should make for some fun ways to mix up your strategies. Would love to see a true ending version
17:08 They're right; he is amazing. Those dodges were insane, and he even then finished them off; all without taking any damage from any hits. Not too long after the epic Fireball skip too. I love Fire's "It's time to be the hunter for a bit" moments. It's hilarious to see the hunters get so unlucky with their lifeline uses. So close. Fire was so close to finishing the fight. What a great video. I never get tired of these.
This was a really fun one! I like the use of sound effects and lifeline cool down. It's nicer when the hunters do know where you are most the time, but are also nerfed enough (with speed in this case) so it's evenly balanced. The hunters all made really good plays too, the tag teaming into the THK fight was a really good idea. Also HuntHussle?? Haven't seen them in a really long time, nice to see them back! :)
That hollow knight fight strategy is super amazing, and I love it when everyone came in when fire was at life 1. Fantastic run for both fire and hunters, GG!
Close one ! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Really like this set of rules. There was more skirmishes between you and the hunters in this one, which was very entertaining to watch.
I suggested the "speedrunner vs hunter HK edition" to my brother recently and now you got him hooked. thank you fire for giving me the ability to finally nerd out about you with someone I know in real life lmao
Just past the intro not even a minute in and I’m SO hyped for this. Idk how I haven’t seen this but so happy the algorithm is showing me more awesome god gamer videos! Love you Fireborn you’re awesome. I love all your content and you’re one or the main reasons I love HK as much as I do now. My experience with HK ignited a love for a genre I didn’t even know had a name, being that I grew up loving Metroid games. Thanks for doing what you do and all your hard work! Can’t wait to watch this now :)
@@epicness2632 the sole reason he has lost is due to the handicaps that are only increasing in severity everytime he releases a manhunt video. In a lot of the manhunts he won, there was a single trick keeping the run alive, which was swiftly neutralised in the next manhunt. This time, there were two tricks neutralised: his AoE charm builds, and juking skills. The only thing keeping the hunters from just ending the run at false knight was their slow movement speed. Had they been at 75% movement speed since the beginning, there wouldn't have been enough footage for a video.
Seeing speedrunner vs hunter in silksong would be so cool if it happens in the first few years when the speedrun skips/route are actively being discovered!
The more speed runner vrs Hunter I see, the better. This literally gives me pure happiness, even if I’m a bit late to the party. Anyway 10/10 content, absolutely bonkers
Alright, that's it! Your videos got recommended to me multiple times, I've also watched some of them before, I enjoyed it every time and always realized at some moments that you move so agile like a true speedrunner who knows the map better than the devs. I was always stunned by the footage that I forgot to like or subscribe but now, after all this time, you got my subscription. Thanks for the entertainment and keep it up guys!❤
This one was a treat to watch. Both sides were god gaming! When the hunters locked fire at Uumu and crystal heart room the tension was high! Fire pulled off some incredible dodges too. Came down to the end too
Very glad I found this channel, this was very entertaining. I started playing this game yesterday and I've been loving it so far, but after watching this I see just how much I need to learn XD
Uumuu is the bane of these runs when the hunters can fight you alongside the boss... having to wait for Quirrel to strike Uumuu becomes 10x as excruciating.
The funniest part is when the one of the Hunter was: Is there any chance he went to Deepnest (21:38) And another: Probably not, there's nothing there for him. And on our screen there's him in Deepnest.
this was really entertaining! i liked the ability balancing and rules in this run- everybody has to adapt to new strategies and charms, and it keeps the format interesting. in a future run, maybe you can have access to the hunters' voice chat in exchange for a debuff, or another buff for the hunters? or, similar to the lifelines, you can get a few seconds of secret voice chat access (once or twice, or on a longer cooldown). :3
Recommendation for speedrunners/hunters, in terms of getting game knowledge, randomizer is amazing at teaching you where various stuff is and what rooms can be navigated with different sets of movement abilities. Progression is a lot more varied so learning rooms and map layouts helps a lot more
they really did have unfortunate lifeline timing! i would love to see speedrunner vs hunters where the items are randomized (everyone would know where every major item is at least)
"This is my sixth loss in a row." The last one I watched was a W, so there's either a *bunch* that haven't been uploaded, or these get uploaded out of order. Either way, good on the hunters for getting the W on Steel Soul!
Fire: "Oh yeah, the Hunter's are slow, so getting Dashmaster will be really nice" My Reaction: NOOOOO THEY'RE ALREADY SNAILS It's really cool that the Hunters did so well in THK, I think some of the other videos had that be a lot harder to pull off due to their playstyles be more preventative than actually able to take down Fire. Also, I'm really curious how things like banning charms, spells, and other stuff will alter the run! Might be interesting in future VS Hunters to let the hunters take a charm or something, to make each one have a unique thing! (Obviously not including stuff that just damages in AOE, like Shroom charm or Thorns). One hunter having long nail, or another having Baldur's Shell would be wild
thank you so much. i got ditched by my friends this halloween, and couldn’t go out due to some really bad pain but this really helped me feel better and enjoy the spooky night! have a lovely day ❤️
S vs. H idea(tho it would most likely be a pain to implement): before the match, every hunter can give you 1/3 debuffs/handicaps (or themselves buffs), but for every single effect they give you or get themselves you also get to pick something. It could be anything from having faster resource refills, a certain mob type can't touch/hurt you, unlocked an ability at the start of the game, etc, etc, whatever you think would be fine and fun. There is one stipulation in that if an idea is too powerful, you can negotiate for that idea/effect to be worth 2 or 3 effects, or to have that idea rejected. An effect (1 effect) the hunters give you can be shared with all the hunters in exchange for three effect slots, or just the hunter that gave it for one.
Thanks to all the hunters for playing! It was a great time. Please go and give them a follow on UA-cam or Twitch!
Gauthier - a composer who releases a lot of Hollow Knight inspired music, and Hollow Knight fan project music www.youtube.com/@pharloomsmusician-gauthier
Skitter - one of the top 112% speedrunners and streams regularly on Twitch www.twitch.tv/skitter_hk
daanolav - one of Hollow Knight's top trick and skip finders www.youtube.com/@daanolav
Hardcore - made the amazing VocalKnight mod and regularly streams on Twitch as well www.youtube.com/@makeit_hardcore www.twitch.tv/makeit_hardcore
Hunthussle - one of the first players to do Pantheon 5 hitless and Any Radiance, an O.G. challenge runner and is posting videos again www.youtube.com/@HuntHussle
Yay I was wanting more manhunt! Your my favourite UA-camr!
With all these hunt videos I am still waiting for a video where you sit down with the hunters showing them your POV so we can hear all the "Wait, You went THAT way?!?"
What was the speed running music you used it sounds so good
Sorry manhunt
Wait this might be from a really niche game… soul hackers2
"I'm gunna hear him fighting Watchers"
[kills last Watcher just in time]
"He's not fighting Watchers"
That was beautiful.
35:34 for anyone curious
@@landsealionthx
@@landsealion Thank you good sir!
imagine being a pro hollow knight PVPer.
@@landsealionthank you sir
The way they trapped Fire at the Ummu fight! Strategy perfectly executed
even that was not enough though
I really want to see a Speedrunner vs Hunters where you go for True Ending. That would be sick!
truee
Seconded!
Thirded
Fourthed
Fifthed
they played the final fight so smart, cycling players one at a time. the dogpile strat would just lead to friendly fire, and when everyone is dead it gives fire time to fight the boss unhindered. great team of hunters, victory well earned = )
It was smart but it nearly got them the loss too, maybe 2 at once? The one by one is a strat i think would work better outside of the Ghost too
@@Freedmoon44 I agree, 2 or 3 at once seems like a good number so that you don't just have people waiting outside doing nothing but the boss room is also never empty
The hollow knight community when silksong doesn't come out:
the hollow knight community when they run out of jokes:
The hollow knight community when sanity becomes abstract:
@@daniezawesomeLike you're any better🤡
The hollow knight community when their mental health deteriorates to a point where we ought not call them human, for their desire for silksong be stronger than thee desire to live.
The hollow knight community where living is a choice but the want for silk song is so strong that sanity is also a choice now:
24:03
That scene is so hilarious, Fire just sells relics while a fireball ends before it can hit him
I love how you're leaving THK and they think you're playing some kind of 4D chess but you actually just needed to heal. "The only reason he could be leaving is he's trying to lure us out!"
Incredible run. GG even though you lost.
What a haunting experience! Thanks for the invite, this was incredibly fun
So I was confused when he said game timescale because I had never heard of the term before. Were your moves and animations slowed down, or did you physically see things going 50% slower?
@@ripmyacc05since it's multiplayer, and fire was at normal speed, it was just their movement + most ability speeds that were reduced. fortunately they are playing within the limits of physics :) (lighthearted)
@@blastlightstar gotcha, thanks. I was thinking that too, but fireborn made a comment about them not being able to react fast enough which made me second guess myself
@@ripmyacc05 He's right tho, it do be hard to react when it takes 6 business months to turn around.
Thanks fire for inviting us! That was a fun watch, great job editing it down
Love whenever you are in these, good to see you again!
That thk strategy was INSANE, whoever came up with that, absolute props to em man
One of my new favorite Speedrunner vs Hunters videos! Felt like I had to keep a lot in since the entire match was really interesting throughout. Hope y'all enjoyed!
Great job!
Best part was 17:07 the hunter saying "Omg he's amazing!!" after Fire jumped over two VS back to back! 🤯🤯🤯 was itching for more speedrunners vs hunters content, and this did NOT disappoint! 🙏🏾❤️
GG fire! It was a nice close game and I had a lot of fun playing! Thanks for inviting me ❤
Thank you for playing Skitter! You did amazing for your first time.
the video hasn't even premiered and there are already spoilers in the comments (/j)
@@paulinet68if you didn't want spoilers then why are you in the comments before watching
@@errhtube5rgtuu54erhn probably because no one else watched the vid
@@errhtube5rgtuu54erhn wow, you must be fun at parties 😝 but also at the time I made the original comment, this was the top comment that is displayed on movile the second you click on the video. You know, before you can physically look away? It still is at the time of the premiere, by the way.
Having seen a lot of these, the legitimate coordination and strategy is super impressive. The strategy for the THK fight specifically was so well done, not leaving fire time to heal or even focus on the boss, genuinely insane. It’s no wonder the hunters won this one. Great watch!
This starts with another medium as background music?? immediate banger
Love the fact these fellas can laugh at their own foolishness for being stacked up when you fireballed them both during that skip, and for the next few minutes working it out to make sure they don't do that anymore
Those were really competent hunters. Pretty much having 100% upkeep on Fireborn's location and not letting him roam free, setting up traps and strategies, the final fight was absolutely intense. I legit was rooting for the hunters to win here. Like they deserved the win.
It would have been cool, and kinda funny, if you made it so the dream nail would instantly kill the ghosts, like how it actually removes ghosts in Hollow Knight. It has a pretty long windup, so I don't think it would be too OP.
Dreamwielder says otherwise, but still a cool idea.
@@starplane1239 dream wielder would be banned
@@creeperYT9824 touche, though it feels like a bandaid solution for a sawblade injury. Maybe instead, dreamwielder can be used on a player in the death animation to get a free heal/large soul boost?
@@starplane1239 that wouldn't work too great, as often there are other ghosts. It probably should instead heal the vessel by 3 charges
These hunter videos keep getting better every iteration! Especially like the ban system. Should make for some fun ways to mix up your strategies. Would love to see a true ending version
17:08 They're right; he is amazing. Those dodges were insane, and he even then finished them off; all without taking any damage from any hits. Not too long after the epic Fireball skip too. I love Fire's "It's time to be the hunter for a bit" moments. It's hilarious to see the hunters get so unlucky with their lifeline uses.
So close. Fire was so close to finishing the fight. What a great video. I never get tired of these.
when he said five hunter ghosts i thought he said five hundred ghosts, and was like, cool.
five hundred ghouls
Five hundred cigarettes
This was a really fun one! I like the use of sound effects and lifeline cool down. It's nicer when the hunters do know where you are most the time, but are also nerfed enough (with speed in this case) so it's evenly balanced. The hunters all made really good plays too, the tag teaming into the THK fight was a really good idea. Also HuntHussle?? Haven't seen them in a really long time, nice to see them back! :)
This was probably one of my favourite runs in a long time, and seeing Hunt back on the field made me smile
finally a new speedrunner vs hunter, i missed this
oh my god he moves like a robot! There are moments where his movement is literally PERFECT
That was amazing! You were so close! Well done to the hunters, they made some good calls and the strategy during the HK fight was pretty inspired
The hunter's only flaw was their lifeline timing lol
The archives play from the hunters was amazing, great game from everyone
That hollow knight fight strategy is super amazing, and I love it when everyone came in when fire was at life 1. Fantastic run for both fire and hunters, GG!
Close one ! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Really like this set of rules. There was more skirmishes between you and the hunters in this one, which was very entertaining to watch.
I like hunter speed runners like you that clearly aren’t faking. You can tell because the prey doesn’t always win.
This was a blast to watch!
This is my favourite of the speedrunner vs hunter videos, the hunters were so coordinated and their teamwork was amazing!
I would love to see a True Ending speedrunnner vs Hunter. That would be wild with the amount of stuff you can do.
9:58 "He's going up top I'm going to catch him off" _or so was the plan_
I suggested the "speedrunner vs hunter HK edition" to my brother recently and now you got him hooked. thank you fire for giving me the ability to finally nerd out about you with someone I know in real life lmao
Just past the intro not even a minute in and I’m SO hyped for this. Idk how I haven’t seen this but so happy the algorithm is showing me more awesome god gamer videos! Love you Fireborn you’re awesome. I love all your content and you’re one or the main reasons I love HK as much as I do now. My experience with HK ignited a love for a genre I didn’t even know had a name, being that I grew up loving Metroid games. Thanks for doing what you do and all your hard work! Can’t wait to watch this now :)
That was such a fun ruleset, one of my favourite runner vs hunter please bring it back
Random idea, but maybe there could be an impostor among the hunters secretly helping you
Clearly he doesn't need the help 😅
@@iniiloi6636 like he mentioned at the end, he's lost the last 6 in a row and it could provide an interesting dynamic
@@epicness2632 the sole reason he has lost is due to the handicaps that are only increasing in severity everytime he releases a manhunt video.
In a lot of the manhunts he won, there was a single trick keeping the run alive, which was swiftly neutralised in the next manhunt.
This time, there were two tricks neutralised: his AoE charm builds, and juking skills. The only thing keeping the hunters from just ending the run at false knight was their slow movement speed. Had they been at 75% movement speed since the beginning, there wouldn't have been enough footage for a video.
@@godslayer9000 of course the rules would have to be tweaked. Maybe the hunters won't even need a speed limiter anymore.
Speedrunner vs Hunter is overused, but that video idea is WAY too overused. It would make it too boring.
Absolutely ace music selection! 🔥🔥🔥 always enjoy seeing these vids.
Bro I’m so jealous of my boy Hardcore, he’s a great friend of mine and totally deserved to play with you amazing people! Really cool vid! :)
Scrooge: *haunted by 3 ghosts*
Fireb0rn: Amamteur
Your videos inspired me to pick up the game again and I just managed to defeat Radiance with the help of your tactics ;D Keep up the good work!
Missed opportunity for the ghosts to be shades lol
Seeing speedrunner vs hunter in silksong would be so cool if it happens in the first few years when the speedrun skips/route are actively being discovered!
The more speed runner vrs Hunter I see, the better. This literally gives me pure happiness, even if I’m a bit late to the party.
Anyway 10/10 content, absolutely bonkers
I legit love the speedrunner vs hunter series. keep it up please
Alright, that's it! Your videos got recommended to me multiple times, I've also watched some of them before, I enjoyed it every time and always realized at some moments that you move so agile like a true speedrunner who knows the map better than the devs. I was always stunned by the footage that I forgot to like or subscribe but now, after all this time, you got my subscription. Thanks for the entertainment and keep it up guys!❤
These are always great! Especially with the single life, no healing from benches, and without the timer. Keeps the tension high the whole time
sometimes i will forget about this channel for a little bit then a new video randomly appears in my feed and i have new content to watch
bro thank you so much, ive been waiting for another one of these
This one was a treat to watch. Both sides were god gaming!
When the hunters locked fire at Uumu and crystal heart room the tension was high!
Fire pulled off some incredible dodges too. Came down to the end too
WHAT THIS IS CRAZY YOOOOOO SO EXCITED TO WATCH
Now this was a clever twist! This would be a nightmare If the ghosts were faster.
Omg the final part of chasing down the dreamer and the final fight was so intense all the way, what a thriller!
Very glad I found this channel, this was very entertaining. I started playing this game yesterday and I've been loving it so far, but after watching this I see just how much I need to learn XD
Uumuu is the bane of these runs when the hunters can fight you alongside the boss... having to wait for Quirrel to strike Uumuu becomes 10x as excruciating.
Yay Halloween vs! Speedrunner Vs. Hunter has been used ALOT, but you put alot of twist on it to keep it interesting.
Best ruleset so far. Everything else is great! Would love full vods of this on your second channel.
"Do you guys need more speed?"
*Gives them more speed*
Goes and grabs Dashmaster
lol gottem
i love these videos so much!!! im sick today, so i’m glad you posted today to cheer me up :)
God this is one of My favorite series you do, Keep it up!
Whatever song was playing during the Crystal Heart chase was really cool, had great energy! :D
Favorite one yet. The rules and settings are really getting optimised. 0.75 speed seemed perfect to prevent you getting swarmed too often
Watching him zoom through fungal with DM was so satisfying
The funniest part is when the one of the Hunter was: Is there any chance he went to Deepnest (21:38)
And another: Probably not, there's nothing there for him.
And on our screen there's him in Deepnest.
These hunter videos keep getting better and better!
28:03 me approaching the Black Egg Temple with an RPG-7:
Man, the fireball skip at 16:03 was the coolest thing!
this was really entertaining! i liked the ability balancing and rules in this run- everybody has to adapt to new strategies and charms, and it keeps the format interesting.
in a future run, maybe you can have access to the hunters' voice chat in exchange for a debuff, or another buff for the hunters? or, similar to the lifelines, you can get a few seconds of secret voice chat access (once or twice, or on a longer cooldown). :3
Recommendation for speedrunners/hunters, in terms of getting game knowledge, randomizer is amazing at teaching you where various stuff is and what rooms can be navigated with different sets of movement abilities. Progression is a lot more varied so learning rooms and map layouts helps a lot more
32:20
Fire: Turning off these crushers will make things easier later
Me: YOU CAN TURN THOSE OFF?!?!?!?!
This setup was super cool! I'm glad the Hunters upped their speed, because .5 was too slow. Can't wait for the next one.
This was so intense, I love this format for manhunt! GGs all
thank you for the spooky halloween hk content! top tier
I could imagine fire being able to hear the VC lol and absolutely dunking on them without the hunters realizing 😂
Hell yeah, we need a lot more content like this I love it from the bottom of my hearth❤
This looks like a lot of fun! I think it’s a good idea to take out the elevators in city of years since you have mantis claw anyways
For maybe the first time I was rooting for the hunters there. Good job, both teams!
they really did have unfortunate lifeline timing! i would love to see speedrunner vs hunters where the items are randomized (everyone would know where every major item is at least)
That was such good coordination by the hunters for the THK fight!
this man makes me fear for my life, the sound of dashing will be engraved in my head for years and years
Nooooooooo!!! Fire, you were so closed!!! You are amazing though, this was tough!
This was really fun to watch, in the end when you got lifeblood I thought you were going to get more than just 2 extra
Wow these videos are always so fun to watch! This was another good one!😄
16:05 nice XD
As a Sonic fan I love that you ya'll use that music in these videos. Great soundtracks.
I vant believe fire had such a terrifying halloween video showing grubs being freed... horrific
"This is my sixth loss in a row."
The last one I watched was a W, so there's either a *bunch* that haven't been uploaded, or these get uploaded out of order.
Either way, good on the hunters for getting the W on Steel Soul!
Wow, all of those hunters were really good at strategizing during Uumuu and the way they handled THK was actually really smart.
Fire: "Oh yeah, the Hunter's are slow, so getting Dashmaster will be really nice"
My Reaction: NOOOOO THEY'RE ALREADY SNAILS
It's really cool that the Hunters did so well in THK, I think some of the other videos had that be a lot harder to pull off due to their playstyles be more preventative than actually able to take down Fire.
Also, I'm really curious how things like banning charms, spells, and other stuff will alter the run! Might be interesting in future VS Hunters to let the hunters take a charm or something, to make each one have a unique thing! (Obviously not including stuff that just damages in AOE, like Shroom charm or Thorns). One hunter having long nail, or another having Baldur's Shell would be wild
0:22 I've heard "500 ghosts", and shit my arse
I love these videos! Nice one fire! This one was really close!
"He is amazing" jumps two shade souls in a row.
I think fire needs to be a hunter one time.
I am very happy this series continues, been months
40:20 yeah mabye you should, the speedrunner is more like ghost than the hunter 😅
They did it! They did it! Holy knight they did it! Well done, hunters
thank you so much.
i got ditched by my friends this halloween, and couldn’t go out due to some really bad pain but this really helped me feel better and enjoy the spooky night! have a lovely day ❤️
I already know it’s good 1 minute left
17.07 this entire sequence was so clean. i know hunters were half speed and all but like holy fuck-
I think the ghosts floating up from Abyss would've been more thematic, but awesome video either way!
S vs. H idea(tho it would most likely be a pain to implement): before the match, every hunter can give you 1/3 debuffs/handicaps (or themselves buffs), but for every single effect they give you or get themselves you also get to pick something. It could be anything from having faster resource refills, a certain mob type can't touch/hurt you, unlocked an ability at the start of the game, etc, etc, whatever you think would be fine and fun.
There is one stipulation in that if an idea is too powerful, you can negotiate for that idea/effect to be worth 2 or 3 effects, or to have that idea rejected.
An effect (1 effect) the hunters give you can be shared with all the hunters in exchange for three effect slots, or just the hunter that gave it for one.