The game is mad diluted, too many people, and 300 sees it and taking advantage of it. Taking these kids using them for the waves they create and discarding them.
slime carter the entire point of the video was artists with talent being squandered. It has nothing to do w what you said, if anything it’s solely on artist career management
You have no idea how the music industry works. Distributors (including CD Baby and iTunes), publishers, producers, managers, etc ALL TAKE CUTS. Nobody gets the majority of shit if it's a real career. Not the artist OR the label. The only one who gets the most are the fans, cause y'all gonna steal the music illegally or stream it for pennies anyway.
Chuck Thugger oh stfu. When you’ve been working your ass off for years and are finally handed an opportunity you’re going to take it. If you were sitting in that board room I guarantee you’d do the same thing.
Every company is shady, as an independent artist with a possible deal on the table. Yeah do I want the advance money, fame and financial support? Of course! But I’m not a fucking dummy and a lot of artists need to have this mindset and gotta find a way to make it work and talk their way in the room. People think you gotta be all dressed up and what not. No you don’t. Just use your head and intellect and let these people know while you may or may not need them, you’re not a dummy and at the end of the day you’re the artist. Not the other way around
this is why more artists (despite it taking longer for things to click compared to signing to a label) need to go independent and own their own masters to avoid being slaves to the industry.
Times are shifting. It is the best way to go now but for decades you could not get your music out to the masses and go on nation/worldwide tours without a label. It takes time for artists to adjust to that. And some simply don’t wanna put in the hard work that comes with being independent. They just wanna show up to the studio, let the label handle everything and then complain about things years later that could have been avoided if they went indie or simply read their contracts.
Some of these music labels are pimps and the artist are prostitutes. As long as you making them money you're good but when the money stop coming in, then you're place on the back burner or sold to another pimp. Knowledge is Power. Learn the tricks & traps of the music industry. Start your own label & publishing company. Stop chasing labels who don't have your best interest at heart and start your own financial freedom.
This is why it’s better for artists to be independent a label will never understand the time, the struggle behind the scenes of writing music and going on to release it they’ll just use you
I actually agree with what Lior said to Young Thug at the beginning. I wish artists like him focused more on fleshing out their songs and utilizing their full potential instead of just choosing quantity over quality.
CreeWilly I won’t disagree but here’s my two cents. W other genres I might say take some time, however most rappers freestyle when they record. They purposely don’t take the time to write because it wouldn’t sound as good/take too long. Personally I feel like artists don’t have the luxury of waiting to finish/release music. If they wait (let’s say a year), the music could leak, the artist could start to think the music isn’t good and not want to release it, the artist could die, the artist could become irrelevant. To coincide w this, another reason most artists will release as much as possible is because you only have so much time to be famous. You could be hot one month and then after a few months your buzz is never the same again.
@@camquest1 Why do people say this as if 2Pac could've done no wrong... What you're saying is very obvious cause nobody has ever heard a 2Pac song that had good vocal mixing. Literally just proved Lyor correct with this shit.
When you have hundreds of "rappers" coming out sounding the same,it's easy to dispose of anyone who demands better because there's a hundred others who can do what he does,for less. Definitely looks like it could be the business model at 300
@I OFFER YOU THIS they delayed hightunes for way too long that he had to scrap his own debut album do a lil research in the history of thug. They blocked his blessings
Thug don’t really need guidance. Cohen knew that and tried to take advantage and derail thugs vision. Artists don’t know how much leverage and power they have over labels like this.
@@bikelifepov9617 big couple of songs all he needed . Hope he saved most of the money and didn't get cheated by 300. Trap queen , 678 or whatever " damn she fine , wonder when she'll be mine" will be bangers for ever
@@BlGRED619 I know him personally he's from my town of Paterson NJ. And yeah he's still rich as fuck. He doesn't care much about the music industry no more. Hes don other shit now in the community which nobody talks about. But once something bad happens Everybody talks about it smh.
lyor not wrong actually. He was saying some real shit, thug is a GOAT. but he has no structure. He could be way bigger if he took more time with his stuff.
That could be true in some situations but at that point thugger should’ve been backed in whatever he was doing because he was hot as fish grease and he did that himself but instead they leaked his music constantly
Exactly thug has skill, voice and influence... very little content . He has really heavy lines but no elaboration on em.... just a catchy hook to follow up.
@@Zakattack269 i was thinking them, but then I think of everyone after the Black Hippy group and wonder where they'll be in 5 years GOOD Music looked unstoppable in 2010 but now they're kinda fallen off
@@Zakattack269 they just dont drop mane. 2-3 years is the sweet spot for anticipation and tde juss say fuck that and now it's been YEARS for almost every artist to drop. Damn near half a decade for certain artists.
amir I feel u n I agree but the lack of education n being patient is why most of these artist take the multi million dollar deals. There’s pros n cons to everything but with the label shit they’ll pretty much will take care of all the business n u get instant money aka a loan lol. Pros for being independent u get freedom n all the royalties but u gotta handle all the business or deal with coming up as a artist n still struggle. 👌🏽
@Andre Ricardo Bryant Na. A lot of rappers have enough money to get their careers popping independently. Most rappers are just to lazy and not business savy enough to make the right moves with their money.
Facts. Thug could have made a ultra classic album if he just used the best songs from each slime season instead of just recording and putting them out.
You’re probably not an old school head like me but you should do one with Aftermath - the labels where everyone get signed but very few actually get to release an album. As they keep pushing it back.
@@steven-zj2rj that is true. But artists signed to label got better chance to blow up because label promotes them usually. They got a better chance to be on radio airplay and shit. But as you mentioned,artists have to try as well. Independent artists have to grind a bit more harder too.
Honestly I wouldn't even give them credit for Thug's current success. Thug's career took a major upswing when he got new management, which were the same people who manage The Weeknd (CashXo and Amir Esmailian). We saw the exact same thing when The Migos left 300 and was better micro-managed by QC. 300 ain't doing shit for their artists, you have to have a competent team/management doing all the work on your side to succeed under them.
In the beginning he was saying real shit, these artist are lazy and want to freestyle like Wayne and jay z but if they took time to write they would actually be way better
In the begging what he was saying was the dumbest shit and obviously showed his ignorance Thug is one of the most talented artists of all time he did his album with Chris brown in one day and it's all hits Thug has the talent to do that you are talkin about an average garbage rapper that doesn't apply to somebody as extremely talented as Thug
It plenty of people who write and they music still suck. Pen & paper not going to all of a sudden make your music sound better. That goes with freestylin to. It either u good at making catchy melodies or u not. It come down to what ever comfortable to u.
that was a deep intro, true and effective, thats trill, dont leave them like little orphans, a song is a hit when its polished, not just throwing so much out to flip mixtapes and flipping the product half done.
You know how I know I'm a fan of this page and the CULTURE of hip hop. You got me to watch a video about artist of none of which I listen to, all the way to 12:26
@@JReece3000 nah bro the spartans got bodied down to the last man, mlk at least left an impact behind all the 300 left behind was their women and children lol
@@S93-x1m What does Darius being black have to do with anything. He won the war but lost the battle. The 300 Spartans are etched in history as a symbol of tactical superiority and perseverance. Darius won due to over whelming numbers.
@@thepassingstatic6268 they see the advance and dont care. Theu think that happened to them but wont happen not me. Too MANY people have spoken against Liar cohen over the years for ppl to not know. Theu just dont care till later.
You said Rich The Kid made it through intact but that’s just not true. He’s been completely irrelevant for almost the past two years and that may relate to the label
Not really, he peaked at number four with his album last year and had a number one song. His album this year I agree didn’t do super hot since it peaked in the low 20s but still decent considering the lack of promotion. He’s got a loyal fan base and doesn’t have to rely on antics to stay relevant. We’ll have to see how his next album does to really see if he’s still relevant.
@@FABIOof119 Personally, I think I wouldn't Do That, Panorama City, Witch Doctor, Black Sheep and It's All Your Fault were good songs as well. Maybe not attuned to your tastes, but good nonetheless.
+ Master bully : For real. The dude went diamond with Trap Queen, and 679, Again and My Way going platinum along with the self-titled album going platinum. The dude shouldn't have fell off as quick as he did.
HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES SIMPLE IF U DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO UR BOSS TELL U HOW HE WANTS THINGS DONE THEN GET YOUR OWN MONEY (GOD BLESS THE CHILD WHO HAVE ITS OWN)
I see what you're talking about but maaan! You're narrating the hell out of this piece (episode)! Good writing, I don't even know whether you compile and write all this stuff post researchin or go off the top but damn! Keep on keeping on! Shout out to you! 👌
It's definitely the label that's been preventing Fetty from dropping King Zoo (his second album) because if that shit was to drop, he'd be back on top of the game in an instant
yo can we not make a dude (Raz Simone) who caused the death of two kids by giving away guns to random people carelessly. he's not an activist he's a clout chaser please do not give portray him in a positive light
That whole Seattle block was staged, Raz was paid millions to create that and the media lied to us all about what was really happening. People out here in Seattle literally made it into a tourist attraction.
Exactly. The man gave Young Thug great advice. Take your time with each song you release, so your songs can last longer on people's minds. That's working smarter and not harder. Most of these new rappers are making song in less then 20 minutes and these songs don't sound good after listening to it for 20 days. This means they have to make 20 songs a month just to stay relevant.
@@jimmyli4771 I just uploaded my songs on UA-cam and I haven't promoted them yet. Once I start promoting them, I will be a bigger superstar then Young Thug. Mark my words! You 2000's babies call everybody with a few decent songs goats and legends. Like you can't be serious. The real GOATS are Michael Jackson, Aaliyah, Chris Brown, Usher, T.I., Tupac, Jay-Z, and Beyonce. Young Thug will never even come close to winning a Grammy. NEVER!
I don't think the label's track record of handling exciting prospects is 'damning' at all. Look at Thug, even after his first few albums had abysmal first week sales despite all the internet hype surrounding him, Lyor and the label kept supporting him and putting money into promos, music vids, etc because they realized that Thug had a ton of potential and lo and behold it ultimately paid off. Plus, they got behind Thug when he wanted to start his own imprint (YSL Records) and because of that Gunna is now a hugely successful artist and Lil Keed is coming up as well. And despite what QC says, I think 300 did a solid job with the Migos as well: they released singles on a regular schedule without oversaturating the market until one became a hit (Bad and Boujee) and then capitalized on it to release a hugely successful album. Megan is also doing extremely well which, despite what you suggest, cannot be solely attributed to the 'internet latching onto' some of her music. Arguably their only serious failure was Fetty Wap, but even then I don't think you can totally blame that on label mismanagement. The problem with someone like Fetty is that because his first few songs blew up he never had a chance to really develop a dedicated fanbase that would be looking out for anything he dropped. So, he ended up with mostly 'fair weather' fans who liked his hits but weren't invested in him as an artist. It would be hard for anyone regardless of their label to have longevity in these circumstances unless they were able to put out hit after hit for years. And it's not like 300 didn't try: since his successful 2015 album they released roughly 17 singles by him (several with high profile features and music vids) and 3 mixtapes, but with the exceptions of "Jimmy Choo" and "Wake Up" the music just did not find mainstream success. The reality is that often when artists complain about labels like 300 "holding them hostage" or "refusing to release their music" they are overlooking the fact that their unreleased music is a product that the label has invested money into (think studio fees, engineering fees, mixing fees, producer fees, graphic designer fees, feature artist fees, etc). The label, like any other business, wants to maximize the profitability of this product and by extension the return on their investment. Hence, if a label has an artist with an album ready to go, they are of course not just going to let the artist drop it whenever they feel like it. Instead, they are going to sit on the album until the artist generates enough buzz with singles + other promo/controversy/etc to do solid first week numbers. Ironically, this is exactly what QC is doing with the Migos *right now*. Culture II came out in 2018 so a lot of people were expecting that Culture III would be released some time in 2020. So why wasn't it? Simple: Neither of the two high profile singles the Migos released to try and generate hype ("Give No Fucks" with Thug and Travis + "Need It" with NBA Youngboy) performed well enough to justify an album release in the eyes of Coach K and P.
yeah this whole thing is missing the point though. Lyor is basically saying that you need to mature as an artist so your music can have staying power. Not trendy approaches to music. Everybody that you've listed in this video does exactly the opposite of what Lyor was saying that the should do. This is not just a hustle. For a lot, its a get rich quick scheme so they make a lot and wait for the blow up. This is more an indictment on the "artists" than it is 300 imo.
Everything thug was told in the beginning is true, he took time and made so much fun and that albums amazing not to say that thug doesn’t have good albums but you could hear it in the music. Especially since thug himself said that he wanted 10 number one singles in a year and he got advice to help him do they
I really think the advice started taking form around "No My Name Is Jeffery" album. That project had so much going for it and you could tell he took his time with it and same said for "Beautiful Thugger Girls". Those albums where full of great work. So Much Fun was successful bc he learned to be more formulaic in his approach but you can tell the previous two where not on no bullshit. Greatly prefer both to SMF as well tbh. Matter fact Barter 6 sounded pretty cohesive too and has certified classics, it was just an awkwardly received by Thugs own fault for naming it what he did so no matter what he came out with based on name alone at the time you couldnt expect anyone to take it seriously especially those with respect for Wayne.
But he is correct artists pump out do many albums or mixtapes just to get quick hits and many of these songs have no replay value . Quality over quantity is a great plan Eg. Lauryn hill has one quality album she still tours with when she decides to actually show up . Not many people can do that cause most artists have 10 albums with about 2 quality songs in each album .
I don't know about him being a snake... but he's right about thug he needs to take time with his tracks and make a quality classic album. It would definitely help cement his name for years to come. IMO Quality > Quantity
Interview dude you need to get it together. You said Offset when it was P talking and Uzi album is named Eternal Atake' not A - Take. You have one job. One. 🤨
0:34 What the boss was saying was actually right no cap. To make his singles popular Thig needed to Pop stricture his music. Kinda like Drake using the Pop music effect but backwards or like hook verses. Thugga was having fun
The game is mad diluted, too many people, and 300 sees it and taking advantage of it. Taking these kids using them for the waves they create and discarding them.
Facts💯💯
Because fans are stupid we eat up anything now a days so they will keep pushing random shitty undeveloped artist they can make a couple pennys off of
slime carter the entire point of the video was artists with talent being squandered. It has nothing to do w what you said, if anything it’s solely on artist career management
D0omC0okie well kryshawn was a bad example of that
Isn't it partially there fault for riding the wave and not being original
don't forget bad boy entertainment, the og 300 entertainment!
Dream, Danity Kane and Da Band just to name a few.
RIP Craig Mack
Dylon Dylon and Dylon
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Yu tryna get some of this hott fiya?!?!
@@chuckjacobs3239 We can either make this song or not make this song.
Signing with 300 is basically giving them most of a pie that they never helped to bake
Cap. You Can get whatever deal you can negotiate from a label. These niggas didn’t know the game
You have no idea how the music industry works. Distributors (including CD Baby and iTunes), publishers, producers, managers, etc ALL TAKE CUTS. Nobody gets the majority of shit if it's a real career. Not the artist OR the label. The only one who gets the most are the fans, cause y'all gonna steal the music illegally or stream it for pennies anyway.
Chuck Thugger oh stfu. When you’ve been working your ass off for years and are finally handed an opportunity you’re going to take it. If you were sitting in that board room I guarantee you’d do the same thing.
@@LapisStone drake definitely gets the majority of his cut, you saying he doesnt have a real career? lol
Never helped to bake??? If you take their money, they are the whole damn oven..
"Industry rule number four-thousand-and-eighty. Record company people are shady."
Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest
LOVE Q-TIP VERY SMART GUY
Check the rhime 💪🏾
ATCQ-SHOW BUSINESS
Every company is shady, as an independent artist with a possible deal on the table. Yeah do I want the advance money, fame and financial support? Of course! But I’m not a fucking dummy and a lot of artists need to have this mindset and gotta find a way to make it work and talk their way in the room. People think you gotta be all dressed up and what not. No you don’t. Just use your head and intellect and let these people know while you may or may not need them, you’re not a dummy and at the end of the day you’re the artist. Not the other way around
this is why more artists (despite it taking longer for things to click compared to signing to a label) need to go independent and own their own masters to avoid being slaves to the industry.
Facts
Times are shifting. It is the best way to go now but for decades you could not get your music out to the masses and go on nation/worldwide tours without a label. It takes time for artists to adjust to that. And some simply don’t wanna put in the hard work that comes with being independent. They just wanna show up to the studio, let the label handle everything and then complain about things years later that could have been avoided if they went indie or simply read their contracts.
They also need to learn to market themselves and get the most out of concerts and festivals
@@johndavis9321 2014 had a horror movie called tusk lmfao
Mamny Kk huh???
OutKast was calling out the industry years ago, but no one listened.
So was A tribe called Quest
OutKast was calling out the industry years ago, but no one listened.
Outkast was calling out the industry years ago, but no one listened.
Some of these music labels are pimps and the artist are prostitutes. As long as you making them money you're good but when the money stop coming in, then you're place on the back burner or sold to another pimp. Knowledge is Power. Learn the tricks & traps of the music industry. Start your own label & publishing company. Stop chasing labels who don't have your best interest at heart and start your own financial freedom.
Outkast was calling out the industry years ago, but no one listened.
This is why it’s better for artists to be independent a label will never understand the time, the struggle behind the scenes of writing music and going on to release it they’ll just use you
K4MZ LDN
You’re not an artist you’re a business
You’re hardwork doesn’t mean shit to them
Most artist don't even write their own songs though. Not to mention the fact they don't produce them.
@@snapchatsnacks3154 nigga wtf are talking about yes they do
Lol they do. But the label's job is not to make art it's to make money.
300 ain’t ruin Thug , “So Much Fun” did a lot for Thug Musically and Mainstream . That Album Keeps him relevant as one of the Big Artists
Yea.... that was AFTER his convo with Lyor
Naw Fetty made 300 for what it is he came in there and gave them placs they never had and faster than they’re own artist
@@realnettieb nah that was long time ago
When So Much Fun came out it was terrible. The deluxe was good
Cole executively produced that
Offset looking a lil diffrent...
Lol completely different
Lol
It's p bruh where this nigga get offset from
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Iggy Ozark it’s not offset
I actually agree with what Lior said to Young Thug at the beginning. I wish artists like him focused more on fleshing out their songs and utilizing their full potential instead of just choosing quantity over quality.
Tell that to Tupac. Tupac would fire producers and engineers because they would take too long on songs.
camquest1 😂😂😂 I love 2 pac that was that Gemini energy coming out
CreeWilly I won’t disagree but here’s my two cents. W other genres I might say take some time, however most rappers freestyle when they record. They purposely don’t take the time to write because it wouldn’t sound as good/take too long. Personally I feel like artists don’t have the luxury of waiting to finish/release music. If they wait (let’s say a year), the music could leak, the artist could start to think the music isn’t good and not want to release it, the artist could die, the artist could become irrelevant. To coincide w this, another reason most artists will release as much as possible is because you only have so much time to be famous. You could be hot one month and then after a few months your buzz is never the same again.
camquest1 but it couldve been better if he gave each song 1 hour more of his time tho right? YES
@@camquest1 Why do people say this as if 2Pac could've done no wrong...
What you're saying is very obvious cause nobody has ever heard a 2Pac song that had good vocal mixing.
Literally just proved Lyor correct with this shit.
a local dmv artist (nosavage) just signed to them a few days ago. Damn rip to that mans carrer
Rip
Rip
He stupid asf
No who
😂😂😭😭😭 finna be a funeral soon
When you have hundreds of "rappers" coming out sounding the same,it's easy to dispose of anyone who demands better because there's a hundred others who can do what he does,for less.
Definitely looks like it could be the business model at 300
Right 💯‼️
Damn… great point
Exactly.
One of the best pieces of advice I ever got in terms of making music is so what you like the rest will follow
I been talkin bout this for years
Cap
You should of made a video.
Cap
Cap
Congrats.
They did not know how to guide thug
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@I OFFER YOU THIS they delayed hightunes for way too long that he had to scrap his own debut album do a lil research in the history of thug. They blocked his blessings
Thug don’t really need guidance. Cohen knew that and tried to take advantage and derail thugs vision. Artists don’t know how much leverage and power they have over labels like this.
That ain’t offset lol
It never was
Wait, when they were talking around the table?
300 could’ve had a Super Star with fetty but my God that shit fumbled way tooo hard
FACTS
Nah he was so 1 dimensional . Every song sounded the same
Fetty is a super star matter what
@@bikelifepov9617 big couple of songs all he needed . Hope he saved most of the money and didn't get cheated by 300. Trap queen , 678 or whatever " damn she fine , wonder when she'll be mine" will be bangers for ever
@@BlGRED619 I know him personally he's from my town of Paterson NJ. And yeah he's still rich as fuck. He doesn't care much about the music industry no more. Hes don other shit now in the community which nobody talks about. But once something bad happens Everybody talks about it smh.
This is legitimately sad to watch. Great video tho!
shut up
@@oo88slatt you shut up don't disrespect Patrick cc and drink your water 😡
@Patrick Cc: are you hydrated rn?
Agreed
Check my music out bro
300 still holding “MIGOTHUGGIN” hostage.
Man the snippets for that album where amazing SMH
lyor not wrong actually. He was saying some real shit, thug is a GOAT. but he has no structure. He could be way bigger if he took more time with his stuff.
He doesn’t need to tho
That could be true in some situations but at that point thugger should’ve been backed in whatever he was doing because he was hot as fish grease and he did that himself but instead they leaked his music constantly
Agreed 100 percent I was thinking the same shit thug is hit or miss with me I either love the song or play it once and never again
The phrase"GOAT" is really being misused these days
Listen to Beast by thugger and tell me he has no structure smh
Fatty wap should get a new label he will be hot again they didnt give him any hip at 300
Amen. 🙏
Facts💯 Fetty can comeback with a great label or alone with the right promotion
YLN kueda Namibian he got his own label/group now where he signed other artists as well
i thought we stopped listening to him because he was about to quit cuz he met his life goals like meeting gucci mane
Kombo Beatz nah. He was just too happy and shit. But he got sum mixtapes out
He was telling the truth with thug tho his next album was his most selling album cus he took his time 😂😂😂
And cause j cole co-signed with his production
kristopher bradshaw lol bro j cole had nothing to do with its success come on now
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Jack Bar didn’t his lead single feature j cole lmao
I mean cole a good producer K.R.I.T. told him he should start producing
300 had fetty, migos and young thug and dropped the ball smh
Famous dex too
Now they have Meg!
@@prodmillyyy but he was under rich the kids label, which is owned by 300 but they don’t really have a say towards Rex I think
Lyor is right. Classic song are remembered for having complete concepts.
Exactly thug has skill, voice and influence... very little content . He has really heavy lines but no elaboration on em.... just a catchy hook to follow up.
RealNettieB Yeah cuz u know all about making good music huh? Thug just need u for his career dont he?
New Zoo yea
300, Bad Boy, G-Unit, Shady, etc all horrible labels
Honestly I can't think of one label that continually puts out quality
Fred Leeland at lest use the word right bro
@@fredleeland2464 TDE?
@@Zakattack269 i was thinking them, but then I think of everyone after the Black Hippy group and wonder where they'll be in 5 years
GOOD Music looked unstoppable in 2010 but now they're kinda fallen off
@@Zakattack269 they just dont drop mane. 2-3 years is the sweet spot for anticipation and tde juss say fuck that and now it's been YEARS for almost every artist to drop. Damn near half a decade for certain artists.
In today's music environment labels are obsolete and really aren't needed
They still bank on the fact that you will need money to get on
amir I feel u n I agree but the lack of education n being patient is why most of these artist take the multi million dollar deals. There’s pros n cons to everything but with the label shit they’ll pretty much will take care of all the business n u get instant money aka a loan lol. Pros for being independent u get freedom n all the royalties but u gotta handle all the business or deal with coming up as a artist n still struggle. 👌🏽
@Andre Ricardo Bryant Na. A lot of rappers have enough money to get their careers popping independently. Most rappers are just to lazy and not business savy enough to make the right moves with their money.
Not exactly
Lior was actually completely right but it sounded disrespectful
Facts. Thug could have made a ultra classic album if he just used the best songs from each slime season instead of just recording and putting them out.
VirexZone but I also understand thugs Perspective more music is better for the core fans but to grow as an artist you need to focus on hits
VirexZone Slime Season 2 should’ve been put on streaming services that shit was a classic and the best one
@@fetty395 unfortunately that's the game you have to play if you want a #1 single
Chris Wallasch nah you can just buy the number one like 6ix9ine 😂
I still can’t believe that Fetty waps potential was just thrown away. I still rock with him tho I just wish he got the recognition
Facts hopefully he bounce back under a different label or sum
Tooo many CS checks to pay out
Facts his shit he release now still tuff asf
Y'all just wait for his sophomore album King Zoo. Then all your sleep asses gone wake tf up
Emzy 1738 bruh u actin like I’m sleep I’ve been awake since 2015
You’re probably not an old school head like me but you should do one with Aftermath - the labels where everyone get signed but very few actually get to release an album. As they keep pushing it back.
Shady Records...
That not shady record fault for not making the artist blow.
@@steven-zj2rj the label is supposed to promote the artists
@@no1u521 not when u sign to a rapper. You become independent. U have to do that on your own
@@steven-zj2rj that is true. But artists signed to label got better chance to blow up because label promotes them usually. They got a better chance to be on radio airplay and shit. But as you mentioned,artists have to try as well. Independent artists have to grind a bit more harder too.
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thug had survive flopping for years... 🐐
Big facts 💯
Honestly, I feel like Fetty Wap should sign to Quality Control.
The name of the Label is funny cause it doesn’t do what it’s called lol.
Been saying this and you got lil kids throwing their life away to get pimped and destroy their own society at the same time.
Look at Bobby Shmurda dancing for his new Jewish masters.🤣👇
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It's beginning to look like a graveyard for them outside of young thug ysl is looking like QC used to
Honestly I wouldn't even give them credit for Thug's current success. Thug's career took a major upswing when he got new management, which were the same people who manage The Weeknd (CashXo and Amir Esmailian). We saw the exact same thing when The Migos left 300 and was better micro-managed by QC. 300 ain't doing shit for their artists, you have to have a competent team/management doing all the work on your side to succeed under them.
Thug signed baby and gunna, he hasn't taken a penny off those lads he's helped them.
@@samuelcallaghan-doherty1155 baby is with QC , he not signed to thug
@@user-fo4vg2sm4h my mistake lad read he was with thug somewhere, if he's with QC he's the only one getting paid because I know migos are struggling
@@yonatanalem9343 LMAO AND QC FUCKED THEM OVER😹🤣😂
In the beginning he was saying real shit, these artist are lazy and want to freestyle like Wayne and jay z but if they took time to write they would actually be way better
In the begging what he was saying was the dumbest shit and obviously showed his ignorance Thug is one of the most talented artists of all time he did his album with Chris brown in one day and it's all hits Thug has the talent to do that you are talkin about an average garbage rapper that doesn't apply to somebody as extremely talented as Thug
@@jordanbaker1991 not with that high pitch voice. You over estimate thug. He ain't all that. He's alright
@@jordanbaker1991 I'm a thug fan, and that album had some hits but overall it was mediocre at best
Stfu
It plenty of people who write and they music still suck. Pen & paper not going to all of a sudden make your music sound better. That goes with freestylin to. It either u good at making catchy melodies or u not. It come down to what ever comfortable to u.
Thug somehow managed to make himself undesirable and get off while making a name
that was a deep intro, true and effective, thats trill, dont leave them like little orphans, a song is a hit when its polished, not just throwing so much out to flip mixtapes and flipping the product half done.
play this at 1.25x its better
He speaks slow af lmao
Time is 💲💲💲
@@hueyfreeman7010 Frfr
You know how I know I'm a fan of this page and the CULTURE of hip hop. You got me to watch a video about artist of none of which I listen to, all the way to 12:26
😂 i resemble that remark
do they not realize that the 300 Spartans all died lol....why name your label after ppl that lost lol....
because it's modern day rome and history repeats itself
That your logic that’s like saying “Why honor MLK? He died in the end.” 300 ent is trash but not because of what they named the label after lol
stryfetc1 to king Darius who was black came threw not playing
@@JReece3000 nah bro the spartans got bodied down to the last man, mlk at least left an impact behind all the 300 left behind was their women and children lol
@@S93-x1m What does Darius being black have to do with anything.
He won the war but lost the battle.
The 300 Spartans are etched in history as a symbol of tactical superiority and perseverance.
Darius won due to over whelming numbers.
But they still out here effin with Liar Cohen, and yes the spelling was intentional.
Probably because they either dont know any better or they just see an advance and think that's it
@@thepassingstatic6268 they see the advance and dont care. Theu think that happened to them but wont happen not me. Too MANY people have spoken against Liar cohen over the years for ppl to not know. Theu just dont care till later.
You said Rich The Kid made it through intact but that’s just not true. He’s been completely irrelevant for almost the past two years and that may relate to the label
Not really, he peaked at number four with his album last year and had a number one song. His album this year I agree didn’t do super hot since it peaked in the low 20s but still decent considering the lack of promotion. He’s got a loyal fan base and doesn’t have to rely on antics to stay relevant. We’ll have to see how his next album does to really see if he’s still relevant.
@@FABIOof119 No Shame was a good project I'd say.
@@FABIOof119 Personally, I think I wouldn't Do That, Panorama City, Witch Doctor, Black Sheep and It's All Your Fault were good songs as well. Maybe not attuned to your tastes, but good nonetheless.
2:57 I wouldn't trust a company that spelled independent "endependent"
Its ent for entertainment
QC leaving 300 was a smart ass move
Fetty wap's fall was kraazzzyyyy..
+ Master bully : For real. The dude went diamond with Trap Queen, and 679, Again and My Way going platinum along with the self-titled album going platinum. The dude shouldn't have fell off as quick as he did.
Had one good year
Fetty wap last album was dope tho
True Journey he had 3 good years 2014-2016, 2017 was when he went downhill
The title said where rap careers die 😭😭😭😂😭😂 I cant.......
Anyone else miss Boomboxes? When I see that dude sitting on a stoop with a double-cassette deck & CD player on top... brought back memories for real.
U ole aa niggah 😂
Seriously why doesn’t anyone want to be like master p or jay z anymore shit Griselda for that matter too .
Aye thanks for putting me on to surf shark I’ve been tryna watch HBO out here in the UK for years
Thug was to good to be held back by 300 nobody else’s tho his music n streams spoke for its self
Thug overrated
MJ Is the REAL GOAT for all the people he’s influenced and put on he’s definitely underrated your goofy to think otherwise
MJ Is the REAL GOAT u clearly don’t listen thug cus he is more underrated than overrated
@Suffian Kamara He transformed that into his own style. If you can't see that you slow af or on the lean too.
@@rttrtt1374 You can't start your career a clone and be taken serious after that. That's not how things work.
I love these videos ❤️
The fact that he believes the 300 movie (whose idea of Sparta was invented by literally Hitler) should tell you how they treat their artists
Record Labels do what they think its best for them
HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES SIMPLE IF U DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO UR BOSS TELL U HOW HE WANTS THINGS DONE THEN GET YOUR OWN MONEY (GOD BLESS THE CHILD WHO HAVE ITS OWN)
I see what you're talking about but maaan! You're narrating the hell out of this piece (episode)! Good writing, I don't even know whether you compile and write all this stuff post researchin or go off the top but damn! Keep on keeping on! Shout out to you! 👌
It's definitely the label that's been preventing Fetty from dropping King Zoo (his second album) because if that shit was to drop, he'd be back on top of the game in an instant
Fetty is that you?
@@AJSavoyy nah 😅
Emzy 1738 yeah it is
What’s holding him back from getting out of that contract?
Stay independent, its a hard road, but you have full control of what you do.
Dam he would say “indictment” when grizzly came up😂😂 that’s like his key word
Appreciate the knowledge Dawg! 💯
The Cleveland browns of music
I was thinking Cavs...definently Clevland tho.
this is why we need to own our own shit
yo can we not make a dude (Raz Simone) who caused the death of two kids by giving away guns to random people carelessly. he's not an activist he's a clout chaser please do not give portray him in a positive light
That whole Seattle block was staged, Raz was paid millions to create that and the media lied to us all about what was really happening. People out here in Seattle literally made it into a tourist attraction.
We really gonna glorify a fucking warlord
@@CashmereBlackLion staged?? How is it staged? I saw a bunch of hippies and wannabe commies take over, without any help.
2:04 thats not offset 😂 thats P
I guess us black people all and sound look alike 😂😂🤔😂😂
300 really good at cashing in at one hit wonders
I needed a dictionary to get through the first part of this video sheeshhh
Thought u was talking bout GBE at first
3:21 “I THINK THAT IM TOM CRUISE” 🤣
Wow they even failed Hopsin when he only had a distribution deal with them 😑
@@FABIOof119 nah hop is dope
@@FABIOof119 Hopsin definitely is not trash at all in my opinion but artists gain clout from bashing their record labels all the time so I get it
Hopsin is a fool tho. He had his own independent label and broke it up.
@@FABIOof119 okey dokie
Khalyle Edwards nah bro. After that sucky sucky song he’s garbage
Only a few people in the comments seem to get what Lior was trying to say to Thug, and that's worrisome in terms of where rap culture is headed
Exactly. The man gave Young Thug great advice. Take your time with each song you release, so your songs can last longer on people's minds. That's working smarter and not harder. Most of these new rappers are making song in less then 20 minutes and these songs don't sound good after listening to it for 20 days. This means they have to make 20 songs a month just to stay relevant.
@@zoneworldentertainment8962 you have 11 views on your song stfu. Thugger is goated already
@@jimmyli4771 I just uploaded my songs on UA-cam and I haven't promoted them yet. Once I start promoting them, I will be a bigger superstar then Young Thug. Mark my words! You 2000's babies call everybody with a few decent songs goats and legends. Like you can't be serious. The real GOATS are Michael Jackson, Aaliyah, Chris Brown, Usher, T.I., Tupac, Jay-Z, and Beyonce. Young Thug will never even come close to winning a Grammy. NEVER!
@@zoneworldentertainment8962 i was born in 92 lmao
@@zoneworldentertainment8962 hope you realize the grammy doesnt choose the best song... they choose the most politically correct song
Please put ads at the end or at the beginning of the video. It's annoying, and super disruptive
What ever happen to DP that track flight risk with $ha hef was AMAZING
I don't think the label's track record of handling exciting prospects is 'damning' at all. Look at Thug, even after his first few albums had abysmal first week sales despite all the internet hype surrounding him, Lyor and the label kept supporting him and putting money into promos, music vids, etc because they realized that Thug had a ton of potential and lo and behold it ultimately paid off. Plus, they got behind Thug when he wanted to start his own imprint (YSL Records) and because of that Gunna is now a hugely successful artist and Lil Keed is coming up as well. And despite what QC says, I think 300 did a solid job with the Migos as well: they released singles on a regular schedule without oversaturating the market until one became a hit (Bad and Boujee) and then capitalized on it to release a hugely successful album. Megan is also doing extremely well which, despite what you suggest, cannot be solely attributed to the 'internet latching onto' some of her music. Arguably their only serious failure was Fetty Wap, but even then I don't think you can totally blame that on label mismanagement. The problem with someone like Fetty is that because his first few songs blew up he never had a chance to really develop a dedicated fanbase that would be looking out for anything he dropped. So, he ended up with mostly 'fair weather' fans who liked his hits but weren't invested in him as an artist. It would be hard for anyone regardless of their label to have longevity in these circumstances unless they were able to put out hit after hit for years. And it's not like 300 didn't try: since his successful 2015 album they released roughly 17 singles by him (several with high profile features and music vids) and 3 mixtapes, but with the exceptions of "Jimmy Choo" and "Wake Up" the music just did not find mainstream success. The reality is that often when artists complain about labels like 300 "holding them hostage" or "refusing to release their music" they are overlooking the fact that their unreleased music is a product that the label has invested money into (think studio fees, engineering fees, mixing fees, producer fees, graphic designer fees, feature artist fees, etc). The label, like any other business, wants to maximize the profitability of this product and by extension the return on their investment. Hence, if a label has an artist with an album ready to go, they are of course not just going to let the artist drop it whenever they feel like it. Instead, they are going to sit on the album until the artist generates enough buzz with singles + other promo/controversy/etc to do solid first week numbers. Ironically, this is exactly what QC is doing with the Migos *right now*. Culture II came out in 2018 so a lot of people were expecting that Culture III would be released some time in 2020. So why wasn't it? Simple: Neither of the two high profile singles the Migos released to try and generate hype ("Give No Fucks" with Thug and Travis + "Need It" with NBA Youngboy) performed well enough to justify an album release in the eyes of Coach K and P.
To not fall off, it takes extreme focus. It’s like tightrope walking. A man with one eye tightrope walking, that ain’t gon last.
how u not fall off though
Idk why but I can see dex come back in a way not like the pick it up and Japan days but more like the ok dexter times.
Dex doing it, update my boi
Baltimore's Creek Boyz signed to 300 once their single started getting buzz. Once they signed the buzz died out.
Hey at least they got a quick paycheck
Leore was 💯% right in that first clip. I’ve always loved his style. But I still wonder why he doesn’t put more into his music
sad that record labels really treating their artists/producers of all people like that...
Fetty Wap a GOAT he slept on and super underrated nowadays smh
He's going broke to lol go help him out He got ten kids
Great video great information
Shy glizzy Lowkey was supposed to blow.....
Big time
Ass whipping and chain snatching finish, Him from fully Blowing up
Facts. That’s all I was listening to
Glitzy was so talented
A certain group of people just mad they can no longer get a piece of that pie.
yeah this whole thing is missing the point though. Lyor is basically saying that you need to mature as an artist so your music can have staying power. Not trendy approaches to music. Everybody that you've listed in this video does exactly the opposite of what Lyor was saying that the should do. This is not just a hustle. For a lot, its a get rich quick scheme so they make a lot and wait for the blow up. This is more an indictment on the "artists" than it is 300 imo.
“Everybody”? What about Tee Grizzly?
@@lilpineapple3489 you think tee grizzly carefully crafts his music, pushing the bounds of his artistry?
i'd say no
Bro. This is sad. Both parties don’t understand each other. Wow.
Highly Suspect, a great band imo, is stuck at this label too. Damn..
Don't they do that joint "I'm Only Human"? I like that one
Yeah “My Name is Human” dope song.
Had to put this on 1.25x speed. The narrator talks so damn slow it kills the video.
Everything thug was told in the beginning is true, he took time and made so much fun and that albums amazing not to say that thug doesn’t have good albums but you could hear it in the music. Especially since thug himself said that he wanted 10 number one singles in a year and he got advice to help him do they
I really think the advice started taking form around "No My Name Is Jeffery" album. That project had so much going for it and you could tell he took his time with it and same said for "Beautiful Thugger Girls". Those albums where full of great work. So Much Fun was successful bc he learned to be more formulaic in his approach but you can tell the previous two where not on no bullshit. Greatly prefer both to SMF as well tbh. Matter fact Barter 6 sounded pretty cohesive too and has certified classics, it was just an awkwardly received by Thugs own fault for naming it what he did so no matter what he came out with based on name alone at the time you couldnt expect anyone to take it seriously especially those with respect for Wayne.
Pretty. Sure he freestyle the whole thing that’s just how his mind work
Jeffery, Beautiful Thugger Girls, Barter 6 >>>>>> So Much Fun
He gave Thug his own label crazy
But he is correct artists pump out do many albums or mixtapes just to get quick hits and many of these songs have no replay value . Quality over quantity is a great plan
Eg. Lauryn hill has one quality album she still tours with when she decides to actually show up . Not many people can do that cause most artists have 10 albums with about 2 quality songs in each album .
This is what I think about NBA youngboy. He drops so much but I skip through most of the songs because they're garbage juice and cheese
300 got more fumbles than a NFL season
Lyor Cohen🤷🏽♀️the industry snake 🐍
And you're beautiful too
I don't know about him being a snake... but he's right about thug he needs to take time with his tracks and make a quality classic album. It would definitely help cement his name for years to come. IMO Quality > Quantity
Sipe Olusoga Lyor is a snake ask Damon dash...
playablue but didn’t he himself try and snake Jay z ?
This why WE need to run our own shit
They did my man Fetty Wap dirty!
how can you expect to compete with something as hyped up as eternal atake?
Interview dude you need to get it together. You said Offset when it was P talking and Uzi album is named Eternal Atake' not A - Take.
You have one job. One. 🤨
I'm glad I'm not the only one that notice that. He also called Rich The Kid a New York rapper when he's from Atlanta.
Brandon Bro 25 rich the kid is from New York
@@RichYungZbo he is but he spent most of his time in Georgia though
I like this guys content
Cohen was definitely right about what he said tho. You could see the results of thug following that advice on so much fun.
Highly suspect is on 300 too. I didn’t know Raz Simone had been on there, he’s so good
Lol Rich the Kid lost everything his new album sold nothing.
Dude it’s rich the kid🤣🤣🤣🤣 it wasn’t gonna do numbers anyways
0:34 What the boss was saying was actually right no cap. To make his singles popular Thig needed to Pop stricture his music. Kinda like Drake using the Pop music effect but backwards or like hook verses. Thugga was having fun
But Dame Dash been saying this
“Aye 300 I’m the one who bring them plaques in”