LD4 Tier List 2024 Where to Use These Units?! - Summoners War

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  • @Seiishizo
    @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому +32

    Missing units:
    Isillen (dark elf ranger) Decent unit in siege off, 4th tier.

    • @Arthrexx
      @Arthrexx 3 місяці тому +1

      Isillen is actually pretty good counter to Dark Asura. Pair her with the rat and Triana and just see dots fly everywhere. Basically hard counters one of the more common nat 4* bases. You don't hit those, so I can see why the placement :D Light Dryad is also a good counter for Dark Tomoe. Max skilled her shield completely negates the damage. Dark Poison guy is also really strong. Seen Aftermath players use him regularly in Siege.

    • @arturpotalov6022
      @arturpotalov6022 3 місяці тому +5

      Didn't you miss gladiatrix?

    • @Kyduk
      @Kyduk 3 місяці тому +1

      TBH you should really look into the Light Dokkaebi Princess. She's basically a similar Molly, but a bit more useful and stronger (although you lose the potential to strip on S1)

    • @Eiszahn
      @Eiszahn 2 місяці тому

      Interesting list, with me playing an LD only account i cant fully agree with your list but i gues that just comes from me not beeing able to use the other 3 elements.

    • @exctn
      @exctn 2 місяці тому

      @@Kyduk Not even close, glancing passive is really strong it can even screw up Nephthys' passive.
      I would only look twice when cleaving with my tiana/nephthys combo IF the defense have Molly/Nyx.

  • @TheDupeDavec
    @TheDupeDavec 3 місяці тому +7

    My guy doing gods work here and in general! Love your videos mate, keep em coming!

  • @nivikoseven
    @nivikoseven 3 місяці тому +2

    Great point of reference for all the ones I've summoned so far!

  • @DarkMewtwo94
    @DarkMewtwo94 2 місяці тому +6

    this tier list was SO helpful and needed with the 10 year anniversary scrolls! thank you sir and very well done and great job! keep up the amazing work seii!!

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 3 місяці тому +4

    I love Dusky. He is fun to use randomly when people don't remember what he does and he also hits pretty hard.

  • @victordominguez9297
    @victordominguez9297 3 місяці тому +3

    Light blacksmith is actually great, if you have her you should try some Odin or Federica teams, I like to use Laima and her together, nice tier and thanks for the vid!

  • @tangostacker4745
    @tangostacker4745 3 місяці тому +1

    i thought this has an hoh tierlist for a second and got soooo happy when i saw icarus thought i missed the most insane hoh

  • @LieyLiey
    @LieyLiey 3 місяці тому +10

    Light robo is basically an ld4 poseidon for arena offense, good dmg and counters nemesis, he lets u build alicia/pungbaek on full dmg for tiana/galleon

    • @LieyLiey
      @LieyLiey 3 місяці тому +3

      Also the self destruct animations looks really cool

    • @iiShqdow
      @iiShqdow 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah and its irresistible which is amazing

    • @firentialombardi906
      @firentialombardi906 2 місяці тому

      He's so fun to use too lol. Die, revive, Cooldown Reset, Die again.

  • @eddy796
    @eddy796 2 місяці тому +1

    There is also a weird chamie build of high Speed/Hp and stacking additional damage artifacts to use its stacks. A fun build but definitely outclassed

  • @Steven-jj4oo
    @Steven-jj4oo 3 місяці тому

    I have lots of ld archers but never used lol good to see this coz i keep using my 3 martinas every siege

  • @dahhl777
    @dahhl777 3 місяці тому +10

    I think felleria is super underrated. Free win vs debuff heavy siege def. And she's great for early game r5 she can solo cleanse one team

    • @GFRetroSenpaix
      @GFRetroSenpaix 3 місяці тому

      U get it

    • @tanpham7411
      @tanpham7411 3 місяці тому

      I use her in RTA as well against heavy cc units like Rica or Fire Druid.

    • @sammclaughlin6748
      @sammclaughlin6748 2 місяці тому +1

      It's actually wild how useful she is, and how many people just ignore her. She's been underrated for *years*, and without any of the nonsensical buffs/nerfs the rest of the ld4 roster has gotten

    • @mehirrahmansumon6870
      @mehirrahmansumon6870 Місяць тому

      Which one is felleria?

    • @mehirrahmansumon6870
      @mehirrahmansumon6870 Місяць тому

      ​@sammclaughlihelp bron6748

  • @jan-g5269
    @jan-g5269 3 місяці тому

    thank you so much for the video :3

  • @Russianstundard
    @Russianstundard 2 місяці тому

    thanks for making this!

  • @durant8006
    @durant8006 3 місяці тому +44

    They keep nerfing ld4 and buffing ld5 to the point it's not that excited to pull for ld4 unless it's dark string master

    • @potatomatop9326
      @potatomatop9326 2 місяці тому

      martina and deborah are even better than other ld5s bro

    • @skipaxsmiley222
      @skipaxsmiley222 Місяць тому

      Is she good?just got her recently

    • @durant8006
      @durant8006 Місяць тому

      @@skipaxsmiley222 she is now easily the best ld4 right now

    • @skipaxsmiley222
      @skipaxsmiley222 Місяць тому

      @@durant8006 damm lucky me

    • @durant8006
      @durant8006 Місяць тому

      @@potatomatop9326 Deborah only good for ppl who have alot of crystal to farm dungeon and Martina can be replaced with other units

  • @jackjunior5000
    @jackjunior5000 3 місяці тому +1

    YOOO this dude doesnt missss lmao props to ur Vid bruh

  • @Thepokedek
    @Thepokedek 21 день тому

    I made a comment back in 15/16 when i got illiana (she was my first l&d 4 star that was outside of a HOH) that she wasn't anything special and Chloe was kinda better in the buffs she provided or the very least more useful than a 4* light monster in Illiana. That comment to this day is the top voted comment in her discussion and you guessed it, almost 9 years later she hasn't been buffed.

  • @creeeamy7133
    @creeeamy7133 Місяць тому

    Eva is a really funny unit and I really want to use her in 4* Special league when I can. Along side Konamia and any kind of defense breaker she's done well for me in guild content, but I haven't found anything setup where I can use her in RTA even in the lower tiers.

  • @charalacuchara9765
    @charalacuchara9765 2 місяці тому

    Glad to see Cris and Bethony cuz I spam the hell out of those 2. Easily my fav units in the game

  • @v3rsatile_V3
    @v3rsatile_V3 3 місяці тому +3

    after looking at the light dokkaebi princess I think she might have some uses her passive heals everyone for 30% on her turn than another 30% if they have a beneficial effect, if I had her I could say if she is actually good but I think she is usable

  • @codythatcher735
    @codythatcher735 2 місяці тому

    I love all of my LD4's being in either Not commonly used, but probably bad, or BAD/Meme 😭

  • @lennartstockl5826
    @lennartstockl5826 Місяць тому

    On my new account I used Halphas to get through the 70s stages in toa hard. (Dark yeti and Jultan stages.)
    It was sefinetely a new low in my life.

  • @Ryosare
    @Ryosare 2 місяці тому

    What do you think about the new Carmella (Fire Cyborg) + Tiana combo, which grants you irresistible strip into irresistible defbreak?
    I feel like you could cook up something with this, no? Would love your opinion on that.
    EDIT: after testing her out myself a few times now, even tho her text in german says irresistible, it still may miss as i noticed. So glancing is the issue here, no? So... don't mind me, no new hidden OP combo xD
    Great Videos, thanks for the effort!

  • @moin-123
    @moin-123 3 місяці тому

    18:35 I see MST still pretty often in the Backline of g3 Sieges.

  • @dergutename
    @dergutename 3 місяці тому +2

    if you dont wanna use aka in gbah u can use ereadas (white sylph thing) aka is better but if you want to be different

    • @RiftyLuca
      @RiftyLuca 3 місяці тому

      quad hit into giants tho

  • @darrelld8578
    @darrelld8578 3 місяці тому +1

    Frigate is very underrated. He’s the single biggest attack bar booster in the game. Good for speed arena teams

    • @dramatique5624
      @dramatique5624 3 місяці тому

      there’s a 3* that does the same tho

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 3 місяці тому

      And the 3 star is faster​@@dramatique5624

    • @pierrelapierre7108
      @pierrelapierre7108 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@dramatique5624But Purian base spd is trash . Frigate easier to rune since he has higher base spd.

  • @jonyongkkkl5119
    @jonyongkkkl5119 2 місяці тому +1

    When 90% of the LD4 are more useful than 50% of the LD5, that speaks volume. Also people are not very familiar with LD4 skillset so that can bring an element of surprise to the opponent.

  • @suleymanylmaz15
    @suleymanylmaz15 25 днів тому

    thanks

  • @diaolener8703
    @diaolener8703 3 місяці тому +1

    nice one :D

  • @martinlutherkingsize
    @martinlutherkingsize 3 місяці тому

    light robot is quite good in specifique teams

  • @user-uv2mb7pc9j
    @user-uv2mb7pc9j 2 місяці тому

    great video

  • @Herrinm.
    @Herrinm. 3 місяці тому +2

    what's some Chris offences and what do you use them into

  • @Zeledon3
    @Zeledon3 Місяць тому

    Dang, I just finished building my dragunov, but at least I know to pull my dark string out from storage😅

    • @pimenta2541
      @pimenta2541 Місяць тому

      don't care to him, build what you think is good, this is the fun of the game

  • @lenlilam8199
    @lenlilam8199 3 місяці тому

    Trasar is pretty insane in g2 siege and below

  • @Lp0tr33
    @Lp0tr33 2 місяці тому

    I got Lucia the light cyborg. Haven't tried her yet, not sure if she should be a super tank, or some hybrid like the dragon knights.

  • @ChoperJoJo
    @ChoperJoJo 2 місяці тому

    and to think years ago i wished for a dark samurai and got it in 2020 i think. Gave him all my devilmons lmao... the regrets now

  • @the.reel.mccoy.
    @the.reel.mccoy. 2 місяці тому

    The only one that I slightly disagree is Sige, He actually has a lot of turn control on Vio

  • @mateusbp2
    @mateusbp2 3 місяці тому +1

    I have Leah but I don't have any setup for her, only Galleon, I don't have Tiana or Adriana, and for me, she doesn't do more damage than Lushen because I can't make her very fast.

    • @MohaASeck
      @MohaASeck 3 місяці тому +1

      You don't need her to have more than +120 and you can replace Adrianna by eshir or fire blade dancer or the premium Craig.
      So chiwu/Gemini - Fire blade - Galleon and Leah

  • @MohaASeck
    @MohaASeck 3 місяці тому

    Waiting for Seii to make Chris offenses because yeah her placing is kinda sus

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  2 місяці тому

      check the arena hits of guts the berserk. he uses her quite some.

  • @hirstygaming4752
    @hirstygaming4752 Місяць тому

    Thoughts on this tier list on an LD only account?

  • @lukildsz
    @lukildsz 3 місяці тому +4

    Gg man, tnx, link for the list?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому

      edited it in the description

  • @lolc4108
    @lolc4108 2 місяці тому

    Yeah..l wait my first mirinae,kinki,dova,dark archer,leah and martina 😢

  • @Francorocco
    @Francorocco 3 місяці тому +1

    how do you build the light cookie for subjugation? with hp or just ignore the hp scaling and focus on atk? i got one but have no clue how to rune for that content

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому +1

      mainly just dmg. 100 cr some speed. bit tanky. use some leftover fatal blades that you probably have from farming giants. all of my cookies for subjugation are fatal something. ua-cam.com/video/eP6Y3tPpHeo/v-deo.html

    • @Francorocco
      @Francorocco 3 місяці тому

      @@Seiishizo but like, his skills have an ho scaling, should i ignore this and just put atk anyway?

    • @MegaKenny9
      @MegaKenny9 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Francoroccohe doesn’t have any hp scaling. It’s only if his hp drops under 50% that his s2 shuts off. So atk is the way to go

    • @Francorocco
      @Francorocco 3 місяці тому

      @@MegaKenny9 ty

  • @Mystery-2nite
    @Mystery-2nite 2 місяці тому

    sad light neostone agent isnt all that good, it looked strong to me

  • @moacyrnogueiraluz1196
    @moacyrnogueiraluz1196 27 днів тому +1

    Which string master for Toa hell? Light or wind or use both? Kinda confused

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  27 днів тому

      Light, then wind, then fire in that order.

  • @dracyra
    @dracyra 2 місяці тому

    is there will be ld5 tier list?

  • @Queendom-jd9ln
    @Queendom-jd9ln 2 місяці тому +1

    I got Leah & Icares but no nat 5 this many scroll event. I mean there are 200+ more scrolls available but after 250 scrolls I havent got nat 5. Leah & Icares are the only great ld i got. Time to delete the account & make new.

  • @farhanqqq5358
    @farhanqqq5358 2 місяці тому

    Where we can use deborah ?

  • @user-ed8iw9cx3k
    @user-ed8iw9cx3k 3 місяці тому +1

    Any suggestion of chris in siege offence?? Chilling Chris @??

    • @justinwilder8571
      @justinwilder8571 3 місяці тому

      Yeah I'm not really understanding how to make Chris work at all

    • @pierrelapierre7108
      @pierrelapierre7108 3 місяці тому

      Probably use a gemini ?

    • @treeck3724
      @treeck3724 3 місяці тому

      It'd likely be chilling Chris miyang, same idea as miyang adriana sonia, fast base spd spd buffer and big nuke in Chris/sonia with miyang for spd lead and extra dmg/2nd 1 shot on squishy stuff

    • @justinwilder8571
      @justinwilder8571 3 місяці тому

      @@treeck3724 Thank you I will test this out
      EDIT: Tested it, she is not a big nuke at all. I looked through all the defenses of my guild and saw 0 places where I would be able to pick her. And you would never build her over something like a Khali or Shren. I think Seii made a mistake.

  • @loganadam4108
    @loganadam4108 3 місяці тому

    Rating units on how useful they are in summoners war but only if they should be built for siege! Thanks

  • @MohaASeck
    @MohaASeck 3 місяці тому

    Damn the disrespect on Korona is insane even Lanett (actual trash unit) is higher

    • @carlhaight3827
      @carlhaight3827 Місяць тому

      I agree, actually! I use him to help prevent people cutting my terribly speed tuned units. And if Arena units don't have buffs? great, toss out the crit/atk buffs.

  • @YanlucasxD
    @YanlucasxD 3 місяці тому +3

    Hard disagree on Tosi, I used to use him in AO before I pulled Leah
    He's basically Leah with ~30% less dmg, but still enough damage to cleave those Karnal defenses

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому

      I think many units can do more dmg than him, i wouldn't use tosi for it if i didn't have leah.

  • @hmmmmmyes8062
    @hmmmmmyes8062 3 місяці тому

    no dark sniper? i just got him but seems kinda me

  • @ShiekSw
    @ShiekSw 3 місяці тому +1

    Skogul trasar in siege is pretty strong

    • @durant8006
      @durant8006 3 місяці тому

      Arnold beat this easy

    • @ShiekSw
      @ShiekSw 3 місяці тому +1

      @@durant8006 as a offense haha

    • @durant8006
      @durant8006 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ShiekSw oh my bad

  • @NicoLuna95
    @NicoLuna95 3 місяці тому +2

    Wait doesn't Lucas get 30 Crit rate by default from passive? Even if shield is down I mean

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому

      Apparently he doesn't need it no.

    • @rohan5564
      @rohan5564 3 місяці тому

      Yes, he gets free 30% CR and damage boost in proportion to the shield thickness (not only his own shield but any shield applied to him)

  • @chibbster1691
    @chibbster1691 3 місяці тому

    why do u only need 53 acc on bomber?

  • @ramirosantana2648
    @ramirosantana2648 2 місяці тому

    Cant believe the place of the samurais...even the light pirate among them???!!!...nop. Inacceptable...

  • @gabrielblox_br1395
    @gabrielblox_br1395 2 місяці тому +1

    Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

  • @philippemuniz4203
    @philippemuniz4203 2 місяці тому

    Dark Taoist

  • @Ant-Honey568
    @Ant-Honey568 2 місяці тому

    Magnus Carlsen for summoners war

  • @ronlanders7354
    @ronlanders7354 3 місяці тому +2

    I agree korana is pretty bad in rl and in game.😂

  • @galleonspeedrunner8655
    @galleonspeedrunner8655 3 місяці тому

    26:35...doesnt the new fire cyborg become the most consistent def break unit in the game rn after nepthys?? if fire cyborg has high enough atk she will always land aoe def break without res check

    • @trugam3r402
      @trugam3r402 3 місяці тому

      Yep. He wasn’t aware of that tho, vid was before new monster

  • @nathanchen2824
    @nathanchen2824 3 місяці тому

    Man this is really weird to see because I have both light and dark magic archer but was told dark is ok but requires too much setup and that light was just decent. I also have 2 dovas and 1 dark string master that are both unbuilt (because my swift runes are garbage) but I never knew they were considered so strong

  • @diluc1611
    @diluc1611 3 місяці тому +2

    Tbh I see more mollys than bettas and I’m more scared of Molly 😂

  • @wagon3855
    @wagon3855 3 місяці тому +3

    specifical is not a word but great video otherwise

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому +2

      www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/specifical#:~:text=Definition%20of%20'specifical'&text=1.,a%20specified%20or%20particular%20thing okay

    • @moin-123
      @moin-123 3 місяці тому +1

      😂

    • @lordvectra7821
      @lordvectra7821 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Seiishizo LOL GOTTEM

  • @mehirrahmansumon6870
    @mehirrahmansumon6870 Місяць тому

    Someone pls comment the heroes mentioned in the vid lol

  • @donwebster9292
    @donwebster9292 3 місяці тому +1

    Doesnt do enough damage and just makes me mad. Lol.

  • @shadowlegends8433
    @shadowlegends8433 2 дні тому

    Eva?

  • @eyelesstriangle
    @eyelesstriangle 3 місяці тому +2

    (Prepare yourself, it's a whole novella below)
    I have many non-hoh ld 4's, so I could say a thing or *two* about them.
    Chris. Have two, the last time I used them was around 2 years ago, didn't think she is that good. Maybe I should google some offs with her.
    Molly. Two as well. I use one from time to time, but the second one is still not skilled up as she is almost never used. I think they should return her 15% of glancing to herself.
    Martina. Yes, two. Again. Full dmg build with as much spd as possible. Rarely do I use the second mst, nonetheless dmg build is the only one that is actually good for an offence. Tanky mst are usually demolished by procs.
    Grego. Choose you number. Was it 2? You are right! Six-starred the second one to get some energy thanks to the endless number of 1-3* scrolls. Did use him as a dark tank, but he isn't very good for it since he receives only 50% of healing. And now with 5 hoh dark knights, I doubt I will use him any time soon.
    Isllen. There are 4 units above, which is twice as more as my number of Isllens. I like using him, but too bad there aren't many defs that he is good against. Prefer on a spd build (desp will 20k hp 170 spd), but it seems like most people just use very tanky and slow build, so maybe I'll try it the next time.
    Icares. You already know the number, don't you? I just give her my karnal's runes when I use her (vio destroy, 41k hp, 106 spd). Of course she gets less hp, but it still works very good. If only she was hp or even support type... still, very good sniper, though I don't use the second one often.
    Dark ezio. The collab one looks more handsome than the sw one, no one can convince me otherwise. And, of course, I have both of them, i.e 2 in total of them lying around in my storage. Uselessly.
    -Wow, It's already very long.-
    Double shenanigans are over as I have no more double 4*. Sadge. [Sad Orion Emoji Here]
    I still have Leah, Dark robo, Betta and Vritra though, and I would most certainly build more If I had more, especially Leah.
    Leah does such an immense amount of dmg, that nowadays I use only two cleave teams just with her (typical Chiwu, Galleon, Eshir and Adriana, Tiana, Luer), which made my other teams (including those with Isis) pretty useless. Moreover, even when galleon or luer mess up (often...) and don't land a def break or two, I still end up winning in many cases thanks to her dmg.
    And with Gimini becoming f2p once again and doing a lot of work by himself (unlike a certain ld nat 5 in my possession), I can try to build Gemini Adriana Leah Isis team. To be honest, I'm scared to even think about speed tuning 4 units with spd buff only, when one of them has 96 base and the other one has 120... But it might end up being a good team, so it's worth to try.
    -Now it's even longer and there is one thing more I want to say...-
    I disagree with light yennefer being above Madeleine (light Deborah). I have both and Madeleine unironically pairs very well with Odin. So at least she got one niche she is good in.
    Light yen on the other hand... She does nothing. Her passive is pretty mediocre, since there aren't many units or even defs that have enough of stripps and buffs for her to be used, and what even worse, in order to work she needs a unit that provides buffs next to her! But what does she do on herself? The only real thing she does is putting oblivion with her s2... No dmg, no heal/cleanse, no buffs, no setup, no control. She's got 10.380 hp, 615 def and 103 base spd, so she's not even fast or tanky!
    Now, lets look at Delphoi.
    Delphoi has oblivion in her s2 as well (with decreasing cooldown time), but she also provides cleanse, healing and immunity, and her base stats are 10.875 hp, 703 def and 96 spd... Delphoi does 4 more things, while being completely f2p and, moreover, having fusionable skill ups! There is no place for light yennefer, not with this kit at least.
    I think the best buff for light yen would be switching her s2 with dark yen (whose kit made of shield and CC doesn't make a lot of sense, especially for an ld5). With shield on s2, she will be somewhat useable.
    All of the above is my opinion, of course.
    Wow! It's over... Goodness, I'm such a blabbermouth. Thanks to all who read it 'till the end, I appreciate it.

  • @laxusanime2504
    @laxusanime2504 2 місяці тому

    Is this video glitched

  • @Queendom-jd9ln
    @Queendom-jd9ln 2 місяці тому +2

    I came here because I got Aurelia(light Gladiatrix) & u didn't even include her💀💀🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

    • @Dnice_
      @Dnice_ Місяць тому

      I pulled her as well and omg she never lands anything! Granted she's not skilled up but still.

    • @carlhaight3827
      @carlhaight3827 Місяць тому

      Is included. mentioned in passing. Meme level. Aure/Kass.

  • @summonersummoner9536
    @summonersummoner9536 8 днів тому +1

    Green should be the best units and red the worse

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  7 днів тому

      Guess you have never seen a tier list from tier list maker :P i just copied their "standard"

    • @summonersummoner9536
      @summonersummoner9536 6 днів тому

      @@Seiishizo yeah I know they all do the same, green should be great and red bad... :S

  • @landersaiz44
    @landersaiz44 3 місяці тому +2

    Where is isillen? Dark elf

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому +1

      good point that one is missing i'll write it in the comments

  • @mdnght0095
    @mdnght0095 2 місяці тому

    Are u dutch ?

  • @Caioboladim_
    @Caioboladim_ 3 місяці тому

    forgot about isillen

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  3 місяці тому +1

      added him in comments, thanks :)

    • @Caioboladim_
      @Caioboladim_ 3 місяці тому

      @@Seiishizo love your content

  • @ShiekSw
    @ShiekSw 3 місяці тому +1

    Comment

  • @gabrielblox_br1395
    @gabrielblox_br1395 2 місяці тому

    Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

  • @gabrielblox_br1395
    @gabrielblox_br1395 2 місяці тому

    Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...