What Really Happened Between Abu Usamah At-Thahabi & The Brothers at Salafi Center of Manchester?
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
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By Allah, we do not want to waste your time with this, but it seems many were asking & confused there we want to clarify the haqq once and for all.
May Allah unite the Salafis and guide us all upon the haqq! Ameen
I am Ahlul hadees (salafi) Alhamdulillah
May Allah keep firm the Muslims who are not Salafi by association. Salafia is an understanding of the deen not a gang which it now resembles, how can those brothers go around telling another brother to leave the masjid in an ill mannered way and claim that their upon the haqq.... By Allah I have seen more Muslims leave islam and turn away from practicing islam through those sp salafi's than any other methodology.
following the way and understanding of the salafi is the correct way no doubt but these so called salafis are NOTHING like the salaf far from them rather these sp salafi's character and manners brings more harm to islam than benefit.
SubhanAllah. Amazing how the stories on both side are so different. May Allah guide us all to the haqq. May He protect us from misguidance. Allahul musta'aan.
ameen
ameen
ameen. I been going to Masjed of. Salafi. im still learning from them Islam n what type of behavior should I see. I had a bad experience in some n good in some. so i figured we differe t types of people with different personality. i left other masjed bcoz theyre now mixing with Sufis n Shiaas. May Allah protect us muslims from Deviation. May Allah guide us to straight path. Ameen. Hazaakallahu khayir bro. its nice to listen to ur concer s a d Kutbah n other lecture. Fatima Sajdah. Asalaam Ailikum Waramatullahi Wabarakatuhu. have a blessed day.
Jazaakallhu Khayir bro
Deplorable LowD9mil Allah is the Greatest, don't disrespect Allah because islam is not your religion of choice.
I love you my dear brother Shiekh Usamah, may Allah SWT protect you ameen!
May Allah guide them, Indeed extremism in religion forbidden
ameen
Who is alla! I only know Jesus Christ as my Lord and saver!
@@jennywitzke8220 May God guide you in approve your condition
Prophet muhammad ( pbuh ) never even told a even a mushrikeen on his face and never told them to leave masjid or any place. Even though prophet muhammad ( pbuh ) knew who were mushrikeen he never spoke a single bad word to them . Subhanallah. And today muslim sects call each other kafirs or non-believer so easily
May Allah protect this ummah from the fitnah and protect my brother Abu usamah ameen
ameen
Abu Usamah is not a scholar. Look at the views of the scholars on him. If you do not believe me, search "Abu Usamah salafi" or "Abu Usamah refuted". Look at ehat senior scholars have to say about him and the likes of Yasir Qadhi. The Salafis are not divided. People like him are not actual Salafis. A salafi is one that clings to the Sunnah and the predecessors. Abu Usamah posts pics and videos of himself. How can he be a scholar or even worse, a shaykh?
so a mubtadi shouldnt be made to leave masjid? well according to shaykh uthaymeen, Shaykh Uthaymeen in his explanation of Imaam Nawawee’s 40 Hadith said: “If the one that eats, garlic and onions is prevented from entering the masjid, how about the one that corrupts the people’s religion? Is he not more deserving of being prevented from entering? Indeed [he is], by Allah! But many people are unaware!”
this imam said this this imam said that :-( we don't want to hear any of this we want to know what the prophet pbuh him said and he's sufficient for us as an example
+Unknown Unknown Abu Dawood
(3641) narrated that Abu’d-Darda’ said: I heard the
Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “…The
scholars are the heirs of the Prophets. The Prophets did not leave behind
dinars or dirhams, rather they left behind a heritage
of knowledge, and the one who acquires it acquires an abundant portion.”
Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.Abu Dawood
(3641) narrated that Abu’d-Darda’ said: I heard the
Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “…The
scholars are the heirs of the Prophets. The Prophets did not leave behind
dinars or dirhams, rather they left behind a heritage
of knowledge, and the one who acquires it acquires an abundant portion.”
Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. so for matters of this deen we go to the scholars, those who dedicated their lives to studying the quraan and sunnah, an who are able to come to correct conclusions. how ever we dont go the extreme of blindly following the scholars, when we know their view is opposing the statements of Allah and his messenger salla allahu alayhi wa sallama . and we dont go to the other extreme, which is to reject scholarship all together and think we as layman muslims can come to what is correct all by ourselves,even though we are not familiar with certain principles in order to come at what is correct, an many who do not even know arabic for that matter,relying on a translation. It was narrated that ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas
said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon
him) say: “Allah will not take away knowledge by snatching it away from the
people, rather He will take away knowledge by taking away the scholars
until, when there is no scholar left, people will turn to ignorant leaders
who will be asked questions and will issue fatwas without knowledge. They
will go astray and lead others astray.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (100) and
Muslim (2673) so what we see from this hadeeth is that the death of scholars are a real calamity for this ummah. we also see that it is not blameworthy to seek fatwas from actual scholars. what is going astray is when people start giving fatwas without knowledge. they lead their selves astray,an they lead others astray. may Allah guide both you and i to what he loves and is pleased with.ameen
ameen :-)
wasn't the point here that he been called that name without actually falling into it etc
Did u make your own Qiyas? Be careful so u dont lead yourself and others astray! When have u seen the scholars of Islam kick out innovators from their lessons? Im pretty sure innovators come everyday and listen to the speeches of the scholars. Give me one example of a scholar kickin an innovator out that just came to pray and benefit.
It was not your fault Sheikh sorry for that embarrassment. The brother who invited you to Manchester are the one to blame they did not give you the right direction.
Abu Usamah, if you read this: We love you for the sake of Allaah and we ask Allaah to protect you from those people who think Islam is all about memorizing and mentioning names.
Don't pay much attention to these people. May Allaah guide them:)
I don't get why people from the opposite of this conversation are acting like children in the comment section. Is this a playground or a platform for dawah. He just made a vid clarifying a matter based on his own words. Take it or leave it bt allow being keyboard warriors. It's degrading, not as Muslim's but as human beings
For years salafis have been calling everyone else innovator... now they call each other innovator. Allah has broken their sect.
A very well explained story that you told us sheikh usamah and you are exactly right about these SPUBs. Jazakallah Khair for this talk
What's spubs
Bang on fam!
Part of the reason I’m not Salafi. It’s a cult.
Salafī simply means to be upon the Manhaj (methodology) of the Prophet, his Sahābah and their successors. However, some brothers have gone to an extreme and have made it a cult. No one denies to be upon the Manhaj of As-Salaf As-Sālih, whether he calls himself a Muslim, from Ahlus Sunnah, Atharī, Salafī, Ahlul Hadīth and various affirmed names.
The prophet s.a.w.s. his family his companions and the 3 generation after them. Where the salafis naam.
After that their will be no more.
We call ourselves salaf to separate ourselves from the evil sects.
No gang, no fighting only spreading the message of our Lord. Ameen. May Allah protect you and your family from the shaytan Ameen may Allah rectified your affairs as well as mine Ameen
first 3 generations so 2 more after the sahaba not 3 more
These people whoever did this to u sheikh, they’re very ignorant and have no shame... you done right brother allhamdulillah
Didn't you say you were gonna crack their head?May Allah protect us from this evil.
Might've smacked some sense into
The brothers at salafi publications are upon Khair and are guiding people to the truth may Allah bless their dawah
Nah I don't think so brother
Indeed the brothers upon haq are the brothers from maktabah salafiyyah such as Abū Khadījah, Abu Hakeem Bilal Davis, Abdulillah Lahmami, Abu Iyaad and others. Once you understand the issues with al halabi and what the ulema have stated about that individual, you will understand why we shouldn’t support or take knowledge from those that support him such as this brother speaking. I’d strongly advise those who are sincere and seeking knowledge to attend the classes or visit learnaboutislam.co.uk
Milk shake (shaikh) does drinking milk induce drunken delusions ? You and your friends should fear Allah repent !! Humble yourselves before you are humbled... Those men you mentioned aren't credible leaders who are indeed self appointed you people who raise them and praise give them importance, simple formula stay with the scholars and bypass these clowns
sunnite 1000 Thank you for being so respectful akhī. I do fear Allāh and what I see from the brothers at spubs is nothing but goodness. They do stick to the scholars and they are credible because they’ve been recommended by many scholars. You’ve obviously come to an assumption where you perhaps felt that I blindly follow them and somehow I have no humility or fear. Only Allāh knows what’s in my heart akhī and He knows my sincerity. I’d advise you to not be so hasty next time when you advise a brother because I wouldn’t advise you in such a way. We are brothers and not enemies, so if you believe that you are truthful then present your evidence. There’s no harm in that. I am not a blind follower, I follow what I believe to be the truth based on evidence. So if tomorrow there was evidence brought against the brothers at spubs, then I would have no issue in leaving them to follow the truth. But until now, all accusations that I have come across are weak and baatil. I can only pray that Allāh guides is all to the truth wherever it is and keep our intentions sincere. Allāh bless you.
@@meatbeast7163 more than 10 years ago a kibar made Jarh on them and more of kibaar now warn against them. And we ask Allah to guide them or expose them more to scholars and to people
THAT'S WHAT HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE FOLLOW THE HAWA(PRIDE) FEAR ALLAH!!! TAHIYATI TO SHEIKH OUSSAMA WICH I KNOW FOR YEARS ( HE ALWAYS HAD TOP MANNERS MASHA ALLAH)
MashAllah. I'm glad you held your head! Continue to teach, and Ahkee you are appreciated.
Ģreen,lliñ,màsjid
akhee a cult is what they are. may Allah bless you. hope you can visit us in the US soon
its sad how we muslim nagging with each other. We all should follow the salaf way. But speack to each other with hikma if we dont get along. May Allah guide us
Subhaan Allaah, it's unbelieve, this fitnah! The salaf we are claiming follow made such a big achievements, whereas we are fighting between ourselves..
That's because they understood Islam and implemented it in their lives to the deepest. As for us, we don't further than what fulaan said about fulaan. May Allaah guide us.
Does this Shaykh ever speak to the thousands of African American muslims or make dawah to African American non-Muslims?
He's based in UK.
Mashallah Allahu Akbar. May Allah Almighty bless you more Ameen
I may not sure who was telling the truth but ill go to shayk abu usamah because no one has the right to kick out some of those ummah outside of the masjid if the prayer was still going on.
goldie and abu k should have a charity cage fight for syria, ill pay £100 to see it
As Salam Alakium. I just recently listened to the lecture called Goldie by Abu Uwais May Allah have Subtle Mercy Upon him and grant him Jenna. It was very very good and gave me clarity on this brother and why I should not take from him. I was listening to a lot of his lectures due to ignorance on my behalf. May Allah Guide us All Upon The Correct Path Ameen
Abu Usamah allhamdulilah u understood that the muslims must love eachother that what Allah said in the Quran and the Prophet (saw) teached us muslims.This fitnah of dividing the Ummah more than its already is with wars and poverty widespread in muslim countries, instead of spreading love between muslims these groups endorse hatred against muslims.I have never seen it in the Quran or the Prophet say hate ur muslim brothers.
Allahu musta3aan, you are lying about the methology of the salaf. If you really was to know what the salafi manhadj or the straight path means than you have cooperated with the brothers from salafi publications. I also don't consider the brothers from the salafi masdjid are lying because they don't sit with people where the scholars of ahlu sunnah have warned against.
Abu Usamah decided to only leave comments that suit him, all else has been deleted! Lol
If your muslim concern ureself with your deen and not with matters that dont really concern you.
^^
how ikhwaanee of you
why is this sheikh always in controversy.. curating people and being critiqued himself ALL THE TIME!! please shaykh your always causing unessesery fitnah.. look at your age
Asif Goldmine no one was surrounded by more controversy than our prophet. And your point is?
bro Abi Usamah...was there any need to explain the incident...Allah saw and knows what happened. ..was their need for you to explain to public. .isnt sometimes keeping quiet better under the circumstances?
Speak the truth
Me myself follow the way of salaf but dobt call myself salafi . And the once who call themself salafi Always are quick to make takfir on everybody as soon u dont have same opinion as them u are kafir . Sheikh albani is kafir . Ibn baz is kafir. All ulamahs are koffar acording to them. But Anwar awlaki is who they follow and anybody who Only speak about jihad. If u dont suport Isis then yr a kafir and they dont want anything to do with u .. really khawarij... The Sheikh has right in all he say
They wasting there life and time isn't here in madinah with brothers on there minhaj
This brother is way better then me. I wouldn't explain nothing 2 nobody. I rather the backbitting n gossip go back n forth. So i can get there good deeds. Anytime my name get caught up n some he said she said. All im thinking about is $$$$ cha ching. God is Great 4 giving me the opportunity 4 some free ibadah........✌🤣
Why does fitnah always follow you?
Didnt fitna also follow the profit and his companions? That doesn't really prove or disprove anything
This sheikh talks about other sheikh and no Islam
these najdi mubthadi are always causin dramas! esp amonsgt themselves
May Allah guide you and us all. I ask ALLAH to grant us beneficial knowledge Ameeen
Abu Usamah At-Thahabi Official ok mubtadi, Ameeen
+Abu Usamah At-Thahabi I love brother Usamah
Ajeeb, how fickle minded people can be!
The brothers at spubs need to stop this tit for tat behaviour and starting benefiting the community in general
Yup. playground behaviour
Beware of Abu Usamah!!! You have been warned.
Call2Tawheed Warn to you salafi brother, Fear Allaah subhanu watala, on the day of judgment will you be able to prove that this brother was upon wrong.
Yea. He's a strong boxer
May Allah grant you tawfiq shayk
You said at the beginning, do not involve common muslims into what between us.unfortuiatly you couldn't keep up to your values. Then you went on attacks.
Ahlul hadeeth vs ahlus sunnah, ahlus sunnah wins
brother u have allot of beef second video I seen where you seem to get caught up warfare
You must not know of Umar ibn Khattab RA
Alhumduillah for the shaykh Abu usamah. May Allah continue to preserve him.
ameen
may allah preserve you sheilk usama one time i went masjid that almadakhila or jamiya control all i heard was insulting and backbiting the scholars who dont agree with them i said my self those are listening where youth tomorrow those youth they will start having that bad character
That's kinda how the first Khawarij started too. Thinking they knew more than the companions and what not
المداخلة قوم عندهم غلو والتعصب يسبون العلماء الذين لايوافقون اراءهم هم اهل الهواء
Im jus curious but y do they call sheikh, goldie?
lol it is they call him that and thats how much of joke he his
zahra suleiman This man is doing Dawah in the UK and its going great. What are you doing?
Saalim Rashiyd I'm trying to follow the qoran and sunah
And take from those who are upon correct haq
What are YOU doing taking from this man that's is been warn against ?
Check yourself you don't know what you talking about
Hes also supported by many scholars till this day. Saying someone has been warned against doesnt make it waajib to abandon someone. Gohead with that foolishness
Saalim Rashiyd why you so emotional for ? You don't like the truth ?
But the truth wil set you free
This man is been warn against by the real scholar's of ahlul sunah wa jaama'ah
The one's who are supporting him are ahlul bidah
Get ittt
الله يهديك الى الحق
Madkhali 🦠
bro stop droppin names u lot r funny cmon sheikh stop talkin about dis sheikh dat sheikh ali hasan halabi blah blah this whole video is a waste of time 7abib yallah teach some deen sheikh this isn't deen
Who are you to tell sheikh to stop! are you out of your senses?? where were you brought up from
سلفی یا اہلِ حدیث اعتدال کے راستے پر نہیں ہیں ۔ جیسے بریلوی مسلک کے لوگ انتہا پسند ہیں ایسے ہی سلفی یا اہلِ حدیث بھی انتہا پسند ہیں ۔ بریلوی بدعات اور شرکیہ رسومات کی گندگی میں لتھڑے ہوئے ہیں ۔ ایسے ہی سلفی یا اہلِ حدیث توحیدِ باری تعالیٰ اور سنت رسول اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی پیروی کی آڑ میں بہت سے جائز اور معقول کاموں کو بدعت کہہ کر رد کر دیتے ہیں ۔ جو سلفی یا اہلِ حدیث حضرات یورپ اور امریکہ میں اسلام کی تبلیغ کا کام کرتے ہیں ان میں علم کی کمی اور وسیع مطالعہ کا فقدان محسوس ہوتا ہے ۔صرف شیخ عثمان جو امریکہ میں اسٹریٹ دعوہ کا عظیم کام کر رہے ہیں ایک معتدل مزاج ، باقاعدہ پڑھے لکھے اور صاحب علم و فضل اسلامک اسکالر دکھائی دیتے ہیں ۔ جتنے بھی سلفی یا اہلِ حدیث حضرات سے مجھے ملنے کا اتفاق ہوا ہے نناوے فیصد کو میں نے ظاہر پرست ، شدت پسند اور تنگ نظر ہی پایا ہے ۔ اسی وجہ سے پوری دنیا میں موجود مسلمانوں کے اندر سلفیوں اور اہلِ حدیث حضرات کی تعداد آٹے میں نمک کے برابر بھی نہیں ہے ۔ میرے مطالعے کے مطابق پوری دنیا کے نوے فیصد سے زائد مسلمان چاروں فقہی اماموں میں سے کسی ایک پیروی کرتے ہیں ۔ ہر قسم کی بدعات و شرکیہ عقائد ونظریات اور رسومات سے بچتے ہوئے کسی ایک اہل سنت والجماعت فقہ مثلاً فقہ حنفی ، فقہ شافعی ، فقہ مالکی کی پیروی کرتے ہوئے زندگی گذارنا ہی بہترین عمل ہے اور یہی صراط مستقیم یا راہِ اعتدال ہے
Please stay away from this shiekh, visit your local ulema
Ali Hassan alhalabi is a people of innovation