Honestly, I would have went and had Pang Tong to be the strategist.... though That's more of a bias opinion cause he's my favorite and his personality is relatable..... but it was said that "having either the Sleeping Dragon or The Fledgling Phoenix will have the land under their rule." Imagine how things would have went if Pang Tong was the main strategist?
I think the reason Zhuge Liang has those 'lasers' is that they symbolise his yin element, so they're not so much lasers as they are light. This is in contrast to Sima Yi's darkness lasers that symbolise yang.
Nah zhuge liang was the only thing keeping shu (Han) alive. Liu bei died a depressed man losing everything including his honor and his sworn brothers. Zhong fei would have died the same way. And guan yu his child (the one he dropped on the head) was in a power struggle and ended up dead. Guan yu was executed even so I don’t see how it would change because zhuge liang would have died anyway. But let me know how you feel. And I don’t mean to hurt anyone I’m just saying my opinion.
What if… Liu Bei keeps Xu Shu at his payroll and Pang Tong survives. During the Battle of Fan Castle, Zhuge Liang deduces that Wu and Wei will attack Guan Yu at both fronts Zhuge Liang: Pang Tong, send a detachment of forces to aid General Yide (Zhang Fei) in the defense of Jingzhou against the treachery of Commander Ximing (Lu Meng). Xu Shu, march forth to Fan Castle and aid General Yunchang (Guan Yu) in the defense of the castle and hold off the Wei forces. After the joint Wei-Wu cheapshot is thwarted, Liu Bei and Sun Quan bury the hatchet and focus on defeating Wei. After seizing significant positions and land, the rejuvenated WuShu Alliance march forth to Xuchang and defeat Cao Cao in battle. Cao Cao dies a few days later and balance of the Three Kingdoms is maintained, albeit with Cao Pi as the ruler of the Wei
I'm curious could we see one on Jiang Wei especially when it seems like he's seen as incompetent and could be hated by the warriors community even though I liked the older rendition with his trident
The brilliant strategist of Shu... Zhuge Liang. So calm and calculating. Pang Tong was also brilliant, but fell to an ambush unit. Sima Yi said that Zhuge Liang was the only man worthy of being a great opponent to him. Everyone else were just mere fools. Or imbeciles.... Zhuge Liang was a major threat to both Wu and Wei. After his death at the Wu Zhang Plains... the fall of Shu was just beginning. Sad to say.
Zhuge liang was loyal to Liu Bei All along because Liu Bei saved Xu Province despite Cao cao's armies attacked it, which is where Zhuge Liang's whole family resides.
I heard that Jiang Wei wasn't even his successor it was another called Jiang Wan. Though he did end up being killed in a banquet with their own defectors, so them onwards where Jiang Wei had to take the responsibilities there after.
Hate to break this to you But if it's an event that happened in Romance of the Three Kingdoms popularized by Dynasty Warriors, then it's false. His inventions? False. Inventing the mantou/manjuu? False. Real life Zhuge Liang was a top tier civil admin however, though he and Chen Shou didn't have much good blood between each other. Zhuge Liang also had his own bias when chronicling the events of Shu himself, such as Pang Tong being ugly and Wei Yan's disloyalty. His fourth weapon's Asian name is named the "Zhuque/Suzaku Feather Fan". This is a nod to the Zhuque/Suzaku (lit. Vermilion Sparrow) being in the South, which references Shu's location being Southwest. His DW3 fifth weapon is named "Feng Dragon Feather Fan", referencing both Zhuge Liang's dragon motif and Pang Tong's Fenghuang/Hou'ou motif. His level 11 weapon is named after the Qinglong/Seiryuu (Azure Dragon) much like Guan Yu's iconic weapon. A double nod to DW Shu's dragon motif and Zhuge Liang's as well.
@@DrakeVagabond The wind magic thing was a carryover from the RoTK novel. He came up with the ruse so he could still be useful to Zhou Yu cause Zhou Yu wanted to kill off Zhuge Liang ASAP out of both envy and being a long-term threat to Wu. DW4's cutscene regarding the wind at Chibi/Red Wall is the most accurate to the novel. Zhuge Liang knew the wind they needed was going to blow on that day. Real life Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu were also barely involved with each other.
I don't blame you; a lot of stuff in RoTK was mainly propaganda due to the recent Jin kingdom being ravaged by both the War/Riot of the Eight Princes/Kings as well as the raid of the northern tribes gathering up in the south. And naturally, a lot of myths about Zhuge Liang like with Guan Yu's godhood, have been lionized in Chinese culture. People needed some shit to look to in a positive sense, so the original author of RoTK did just that for their sakes via lionizing the traits of Shu just so people can believe in some good in their lives back then. Real life Zhuge Liang however, was a bit of a not-as-modest guy as one would expect, but the notable positive qualities about him were his pure loyalty to Liu Bei, and that he managed to make sure in each of his Northern Campaigns, all of his armies withdrew with no major casualties. However, as he did things by the book, the rapidly changing environment of the battlefield caused his plans to often fail as he wasn't that good at adaptation. When it came to the main foundation of Shu, you have Fa Zheng to thank (as well as Fa Zheng being the main reason behind Liu Bei's only independent victory so far at Hanzhong). Real life Pang Tong was also the opposite of Zhuge Liang in a sense while he was crap at civil administration, he was a brilliant military strategist. It's not say that Zhuge Liang can't be a bad character though. It's just that to quote one infamous tumblr user, everyone sucks his dick way too much. Koei just puckers up to him too much like with Zhao Yun (is it any wonder why both of them are voiced in Japanese by Masaya Onosaka?) Of course, yes, a lot of stuff about Shu's figures were big myths, but once you get past all the bashing, it's easy to notice that Shu didn't have the quality historians back then that were on par with the ones about the Wei and Wu kingdom. And of course, Wu didn't get as much focus at all in RoTK.
i remember seeing this guy shooting laser back in dw4 and thinking YEP this is the guy for me...i then realized that his laser were AWFUL gameplaywise and never played him again until dw5 where his lasers were...LESS awesome but actually usuable...
Jiang wei did his best. Liu Shan was a suck ass emperor. He lacked any of the traits that made his father successful (maybe being thrown to the ground as an infant by said father has something to do it with) but has Liu Shan been Liu Bei 1.5 or even Liu Bei 2.0 Jiang Wei would have been successful.
That is great one but it will be better when you convince Lex Lang to voice his character in this video .You need to convince voice actor to voice their character in Warriors Analysis in future.
OK.I know it was too bad.But I wish your next Warriors Analysis have voice actors to voice their characters. You have to tried to convince others to do that.
Zhuge Liang probably is the most overhyped character of the books and consequently, the series. Most famous brilliant strategies were actually devised by Pang Tong or are believed to be just fantasy. Kongmin still was a brilliant administrator, but as a strategist, he was conservative and not open enough for council. His biggest weakness, perhaps, was his tendency towards nepotism. I would further argue that his three kingdoms strategy ultimately was a mistake because Zhuge Liang did not predict Wu allying with Wei to defeat Guan Yu. If Liu Bei had not declared himself emperor and if Shu gave Ling provide to Wu, they could have defeated Wei. Since Sun Quan had no ambition to become emperor, he probably could have been convinced to support Shu in exchange for being granted a big decree of autonomy. Also, the whole war against Wei lost its purpose when Liu Bei died because Liu Shan was not fit to rule and because Cao Pi died.
I'm Chinese 诸葛亮was not a warrior but a very smart political figure in 三国演义 he didn't do any fighting and 诸葛亮 didn't have to gain the brothers trust, the brothers were the one who begged him to be a political figure he didn't declare himself king 刘备 told 诸葛亮 if he wanted to he could kill his stubborn and dumb son to take the throne. He
It's odd to see Zhuge Liang get so much praise even though he fails horribly and hardly gains any land except for defeating a bunch of barbarians. Then you have Cao Zhen be rather sucessful at defending against the campaigns and get treated like an incompetent dumbass. I just don't get it
Ikr. The writer of ROTK was a huge Zhuge Liang fanboy, he made him looks like best strategist in that era. Infact he is just a good one not the best. Even in Shu, he was not the best, Pang Tong and Fa Zheng were far more better than him. Honestly the whole northern campaign was a bad choice when I play that part even I realised that's a ridiculous plan. And don't forget his favorism costed Shu big losses. Instead of trusting last good Shu general Wei Yan, he chose his lackeys.
nemesis3587 I agree with it all. But I don't blame the author. It was already a big part of his culture to think of Zhuge Liang as the best person ever. He was just making a combination of folklore. It's sad that he ended up causing many to think his work is the true history of the three kingdoms even though it wasn't he intention and it even says as such in the very prologue of the novel in the modern versions
ROTK Zhuge Liang would have reunited China in his lunch break. I can recall only one occasion where his plan did not work, a minor event with Sima Yi. Knows everything and has supernatural powers to match.
Busiao Zu oh yeah, Sima Yi is certainly overrated. I mean, RotK games give him 99 LDR. That's rediculous. But Zhuge Liang is certainly not much better. His greatest military accomplishments are when he's retreating. And the arrogant fool played favorites quite a bit and nearly completely ignored the skills of great officers. Plus, it should be noted that losing Jing shouldn't have caused such a disadvantage as he became allied again with the ones who took it. I should also mention is lack of ability to diversify his campaigns. All 5 of them had the same goal, and he failed all 5 without changing much of his plans. Zhuge Liang shouldn't have been leading these campaigns. I think he might've been better by 1) not punishing his officers the moment they mess up one thing and 2) putting someone else in charge so he can focus on the administration
Honestly, I would have went and had Pang Tong to be the strategist.... though That's more of a bias opinion cause he's my favorite and his personality is relatable..... but it was said that "having either the Sleeping Dragon or The Fledgling Phoenix will have the land under their rule."
Imagine how things would have went if Pang Tong was the main strategist?
You forgot to add that Zhuge Liang was married to Yue Ying.
YUE YING NEXTT THE WIFE OF THE DRAGON 💚💚💚
Sad ending for the sleeping dragon 😢
That last part left me in stitches.
"The ignorant fight to win" ohhhhhhhh damnnnn
Please do one for Wei Yan! Would love to hear about him. I find him to be the most badass and most mysterious character.
Awesome I been waiting for a zhuge liang Video for so long
Finally I wanted to see this now we wait for Zhang liao
I will say this right now; Zhang Liao ESPECIALLY in real life is what real life Lü Bu would've wanted to be.
That ending music has me in tears...
could you do either guan yu, lu meng, zhang fei, yukimura sanada, Yoshitsune Minamoto, Tadakatsu Honda, Musashi Miyamoto or sima yi?
I think the reason Zhuge Liang has those 'lasers' is that they symbolise his yin element, so they're not so much lasers as they are light. This is in contrast to Sima Yi's darkness lasers that symbolise yang.
I appreciate the enthusiasm but that was a quote from the devs
Sweet, that means I found more meaning behind it than they actually intended. That's the spirit of fandoms.
Andy Semple lasers are light
Andy Semple So Sima Yi is represented by femining energy
@@charlottewalnut3118 masculine
“This video will be merely one part of my larger overall strategy.”
Just as planned
If only liu bei hadn't flipped out against wu just imagine how far he would have gone.
Nah zhuge liang was the only thing keeping shu (Han) alive. Liu bei died a depressed man losing everything including his honor and his sworn brothers. Zhong fei would have died the same way. And guan yu his child (the one he dropped on the head) was in a power struggle and ended up dead. Guan yu was executed even so I don’t see how it would change because zhuge liang would have died anyway. But let me know how you feel. And I don’t mean to hurt anyone I’m just saying my opinion.
@@xxblueberryxx7311 well a lot of shu's military power was diminished do to the failed invasion of Wu. A invasion Zhuge liang was strongly against.
Well thanks for replying I want to hear everyone’s side
What if…
Liu Bei keeps Xu Shu at his payroll and Pang Tong survives. During the Battle of Fan Castle, Zhuge Liang deduces that Wu and Wei will attack Guan Yu at both fronts
Zhuge Liang: Pang Tong, send a detachment of forces to aid General Yide (Zhang Fei) in the defense of Jingzhou against the treachery of Commander Ximing (Lu Meng). Xu Shu, march forth to Fan Castle and aid General Yunchang (Guan Yu) in the defense of the castle and hold off the Wei forces.
After the joint Wei-Wu cheapshot is thwarted, Liu Bei and Sun Quan bury the hatchet and focus on defeating Wei. After seizing significant positions and land, the rejuvenated WuShu Alliance march forth to Xuchang and defeat Cao Cao in battle. Cao Cao dies a few days later and balance of the Three Kingdoms is maintained, albeit with Cao Pi as the ruler of the Wei
Liu Bei sleep with Zhuge Liang even in a room ? Woah, that's cool.
I'm curious could we see one on Jiang Wei especially when it seems like he's seen as incompetent and could be hated by the warriors community even though I liked the older rendition with his trident
The brilliant strategist of Shu... Zhuge Liang. So calm and calculating. Pang Tong was also brilliant, but fell to an ambush unit. Sima Yi said that Zhuge Liang was the only man worthy of being a great opponent to him. Everyone else were just mere fools. Or imbeciles....
Zhuge Liang was a major threat to both Wu and Wei. After his death at the Wu Zhang Plains... the fall of Shu was just beginning. Sad to say.
Zhuge liang was loyal to Liu Bei All along because Liu Bei saved Xu Province despite Cao cao's armies attacked it, which is where Zhuge Liang's whole family resides.
The great strategist of shu in the end he was able to pass down his believes and responsibilities to jiang wei great teacher and student
I heard that Jiang Wei wasn't even his successor it was another called Jiang Wan. Though he did end up being killed in a banquet with their own defectors, so them onwards where Jiang Wei had to take the responsibilities there after.
Zhuge Liang, Strategist of Shu
@DrakeVagabond You're taking notes from Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
Hate to break this to you
But if it's an event that happened in Romance of the Three Kingdoms popularized by Dynasty Warriors, then it's false.
His inventions? False. Inventing the mantou/manjuu? False.
Real life Zhuge Liang was a top tier civil admin however, though he and Chen Shou didn't have much good blood between each other.
Zhuge Liang also had his own bias when chronicling the events of Shu himself, such as Pang Tong being ugly and Wei Yan's disloyalty.
His fourth weapon's Asian name is named the "Zhuque/Suzaku Feather Fan". This is a nod to the Zhuque/Suzaku (lit. Vermilion Sparrow) being in the South, which references Shu's location being Southwest.
His DW3 fifth weapon is named "Feng Dragon Feather Fan", referencing both Zhuge Liang's dragon motif and Pang Tong's Fenghuang/Hou'ou motif.
His level 11 weapon is named after the Qinglong/Seiryuu (Azure Dragon) much like Guan Yu's iconic weapon. A double nod to DW Shu's dragon motif and Zhuge Liang's as well.
you mean he didn't change the wind with magic?
@@DrakeVagabond The wind magic thing was a carryover from the RoTK novel. He came up with the ruse so he could still be useful to Zhou Yu cause Zhou Yu wanted to kill off Zhuge Liang ASAP out of both envy and being a long-term threat to Wu.
DW4's cutscene regarding the wind at Chibi/Red Wall is the most accurate to the novel. Zhuge Liang knew the wind they needed was going to blow on that day.
Real life Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu were also barely involved with each other.
my whole life is a lie
I don't blame you; a lot of stuff in RoTK was mainly propaganda due to the recent Jin kingdom being ravaged by both the War/Riot of the Eight Princes/Kings as well as the raid of the northern tribes gathering up in the south. And naturally, a lot of myths about Zhuge Liang like with Guan Yu's godhood, have been lionized in Chinese culture.
People needed some shit to look to in a positive sense, so the original author of RoTK did just that for their sakes via lionizing the traits of Shu just so people can believe in some good in their lives back then.
Real life Zhuge Liang however, was a bit of a not-as-modest guy as one would expect, but the notable positive qualities about him were his pure loyalty to Liu Bei, and that he managed to make sure in each of his Northern Campaigns, all of his armies withdrew with no major casualties.
However, as he did things by the book, the rapidly changing environment of the battlefield caused his plans to often fail as he wasn't that good at adaptation.
When it came to the main foundation of Shu, you have Fa Zheng to thank (as well as Fa Zheng being the main reason behind Liu Bei's only independent victory so far at Hanzhong). Real life Pang Tong was also the opposite of Zhuge Liang in a sense while he was crap at civil administration, he was a brilliant military strategist.
It's not say that Zhuge Liang can't be a bad character though. It's just that to quote one infamous tumblr user, everyone sucks his dick way too much. Koei just puckers up to him too much like with Zhao Yun (is it any wonder why both of them are voiced in Japanese by Masaya Onosaka?)
Of course, yes, a lot of stuff about Shu's figures were big myths, but once you get past all the bashing, it's easy to notice that Shu didn't have the quality historians back then that were on par with the ones about the Wei and Wu kingdom.
And of course, Wu didn't get as much focus at all in RoTK.
I think he's fucking with you dude.
Master/manager of Eiko in Paripi Kongming
If there is any info about Zuo Ci , make a video for it . Unless you made one already.
i remember seeing this guy shooting laser back in dw4 and thinking YEP this is the guy for me...i then realized that his laser were AWFUL gameplaywise and never played him again until dw5 where his lasers were...LESS awesome but actually usuable...
Kenshin Uesugi or Sima Yi next?
Awesome Video! Can you do Sima Yi?
Can U do the God of War, Guan YU?
Jiang wei did his best. Liu Shan was a suck ass emperor. He lacked any of the traits that made his father successful (maybe being thrown to the ground as an infant by said father has something to do it with) but has Liu Shan been Liu Bei 1.5 or even Liu Bei 2.0 Jiang Wei would have been successful.
I wonder why did he leave Jiang Wei in charge i mean Sheryl Zhuge Liang could probably tell how inexperienced Jiang Wei was.
Zhuge Liang wasn’t exactly good at utilizing talents...or anything besides administrative affairs and power struggles.
Make one of Xu Shu
Ankui Senpai His history is very short, with his only prominence was taking assisting Liu Bei, it would be too short
@@fischure8480 In the Warriors Orochi 3 Zhuge Liang says that he is better than him because he mastered both strategy and combat.
Oh snap it’s Kongming. I hope my girl Yueying is next
Make one about Fa Zheng please
Hi Bless! I'm also a fan of Fa Zheng.
Li Dian?
When Zhuge Liang died Shu was screwed up
The most shilled guy in the series.
Zhuge Liang - warrior analysis ? 😅😑
Master Zhuge Liang is not a warrior, he is a strategist.. 😓😐
There is one character i shall await the analysis
Hanzo Hattori :)
Greatest warmonger of the Three Kingdoms period.
Nah that honor belongs to Cao Cao. The biggest tyrant of the Three Kingdoms period.
Did jiang Wei do a bad job
Nice video
That is great one but it will be better when you convince Lex Lang to voice his character in this video .You need to convince voice actor to voice their character in Warriors Analysis in future.
Lex doesn't respond to social media contacts and emails. SO no dice
OK.I know it was too bad.But I wish your next Warriors Analysis have voice actors to voice their characters. You have to tried to convince others to do that.
DrakeVagabond Lex had twitter.Here:twitter.com/LexLang
What's the name of the song that's playing?
That BGM is being sung in Japanese. Unfitting.
Its his character song btw.
Sima yi sima yi SIMA YI . Do sima yi next .
Hey dog love you channel big fan of dynasty warrior can you please do zhung liana wife yu ying please😇
Hmoody-TH sorry sorry I all was Spelling 😇 her name wrong Zhuge Liang wife please 😇
Zhuge Liang probably is the most overhyped character of the books and consequently, the series. Most famous brilliant strategies were actually devised by Pang Tong or are believed to be just fantasy. Kongmin still was a brilliant administrator, but as a strategist, he was conservative and not open enough for council. His biggest weakness, perhaps, was his tendency towards nepotism.
I would further argue that his three kingdoms strategy ultimately was a mistake because Zhuge Liang did not predict Wu allying with Wei to defeat Guan Yu. If Liu Bei had not declared himself emperor and if Shu gave Ling provide to Wu, they could have defeated Wei. Since Sun Quan had no ambition to become emperor, he probably could have been convinced to support Shu in exchange for being granted a big decree of autonomy. Also, the whole war against Wei lost its purpose when Liu Bei died because Liu Shan was not fit to rule and because Cao Pi died.
Albert Einstein's true rival😂
Please for the next Yukimura Sanada
ya boi waver
Is it wrong to ship liu bei x zhuge liang
Oh that's the tamest of the Zhuge Liang ships
lucarerys targaryen very
DrakeVagabond how bad could they really get
where is fate?
NICE
Lightning, not thunder....
I'm Chinese 诸葛亮was not a warrior but a very smart political figure in 三国演义 he didn't do any fighting
and 诸葛亮 didn't have to gain the brothers trust, the brothers were the one who begged him to be a political figure
he didn't declare himself king 刘备 told 诸葛亮 if he wanted to he could kill his stubborn and dumb son to take the
throne. He
It's derived from the game called Dynasty Warriors.
?
It's odd to see Zhuge Liang get so much praise even though he fails horribly and hardly gains any land except for defeating a bunch of barbarians. Then you have Cao Zhen be rather sucessful at defending against the campaigns and get treated like an incompetent dumbass. I just don't get it
Ikr. The writer of ROTK was a huge Zhuge Liang fanboy, he made him looks like best strategist in that era. Infact he is just a good one not the best. Even in Shu, he was not the best, Pang Tong and Fa Zheng were far more better than him. Honestly the whole northern campaign was a bad choice when I play that part even I realised that's a ridiculous plan. And don't forget his favorism costed Shu big losses. Instead of trusting last good Shu general Wei Yan, he chose his lackeys.
nemesis3587 I agree with it all. But I don't blame the author. It was already a big part of his culture to think of Zhuge Liang as the best person ever. He was just making a combination of folklore. It's sad that he ended up causing many to think his work is the true history of the three kingdoms even though it wasn't he intention and it even says as such in the very prologue of the novel in the modern versions
ROTK Zhuge Liang would have reunited China in his lunch break. I can recall only one occasion where his plan did not work, a minor event with Sima Yi. Knows everything and has supernatural powers to match.
Toreadorification oh dear. He was a Mary Sue wasn't he?
Busiao Zu oh yeah, Sima Yi is certainly overrated. I mean, RotK games give him 99 LDR. That's rediculous.
But Zhuge Liang is certainly not much better. His greatest military accomplishments are when he's retreating. And the arrogant fool played favorites quite a bit and nearly completely ignored the skills of great officers.
Plus, it should be noted that losing Jing shouldn't have caused such a disadvantage as he became allied again with the ones who took it.
I should also mention is lack of ability to diversify his campaigns. All 5 of them had the same goal, and he failed all 5 without changing much of his plans. Zhuge Liang shouldn't have been leading these campaigns. I think he might've been better by 1) not punishing his officers the moment they mess up one thing and 2) putting someone else in charge so he can focus on the administration
:)
Jiang wei is overrated
man the butchering of the names..