Thank you for using up all the available luck in the entire skydiving community! Now there is nothing left for future generations of skydivers ^^ Glad everybody is
Agree mostly, but we also dont know their level of experience. If you jump, you know door open till exit is a stressful time for inexperienced people. Easy to get super focused on your own checks, movements, yadda yadda. If theyre very experienced, what the actual fuck. But of its a bunch of sub 100 jump people, not as surprising.
Aaanndd just watched it again, might need to shut my mouth. Instead of grabbing their arm gripper, he threw the fuckin Dbag out the door. What the fuck!?? Lucky
Not sure if anything has change since the 90's but back then, once your container enters the slipstream you're going outdoors. I'll refer to an incident that happened many years ago where the same type incident led to the right side of the fuselage of Cessna was ripped out. As it's been many years I don't remember the exact specifics but you can probably find it with a simple Google search.
This week on, “Skydivers with low self-esteem”: “Hey ... uhhh ... Amy, your pilot chute was hanging out, so I threw it out of the plane.” “OK, ttttttthhhhhhhhaaaaannnnnkssssss!!!!”
It is easy for us to criticize him, but I agree with you. We all need to watch the jumper ahead of us while in the plane and as they exit. It's our lives too.
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but they left the scene with an epic tale to tell. Well played to all involved but should anyone feel an urgent need to become too judgmental regarding the actions of the skydiver who dealt with the bag, do remember that we get the view from where the guys camera is pointed, but that isn't necessarily where their gaze is directed or where their attention is focused. Sure, it's cool to play what part you can in ensuring the safety of the guys ahead of you but a C182 can take a while to get there, it's a little cramped, gear gets rubbed and bodies get stiff. it's also worth remembering that there's no fucker behind you to keep an eye on your back. If I was in his spot I'd likely be paying attention to my own gear to some extent. We'd all like to think that we would spot it sooner, but human attention is a strange thing indeed.
This reminds me of so many situations I have seen when Skydiving. When someone is climbing out of the plane and their Dbag falls onto the floor as in this situation, you only have a second or two to decide what to do. Bringing someone back in off the step can lead to so many potential problems. So throwing the bag out and downwards could be the best option. I have heard instructors say, once they are out they are not coming back in. This rule is ok for low jump students as they can’t process a reset as quick as an experienced jumper can and they will only be a liability trying to get them back in? I was jump master on a demo and we were jumping out of a Cessna 182 with a step like this one and at an allotted time. We knew there were 2 stunt aircraft doing a demo before us and we arrived at the event exactly on time. This was a local carnival with no ground to air radio, so timing was important. .We did our WIDI pass at the agreed time, then climbed to our exit altitude and opened the door. I spotted and gave my mate George the ok to get out. I started to follow him with 2 more jumpers behind me. Something then caught my eye and I looked down. To my amazement I saw 2 Pitts Special stunt aircraft with smoke on right underneath us? These 2 were well over half an hour late but decided to carry on regardless. I looked at George and pointed down and you should have seen his eyes light up. The other 2 jumpers saw them too and we all climbed back in ok and watched their routine from above. We then got out when they were well clear of us. A few more seconds either way for us or the stunt aircraft and we would have definitely made the evening news? A big big lesson I learnt if things go wrong and you want people to stay in the plane or to even get back in the plane is DO NOT shout NO! Because with all the noise of climbing out and everyone’s adrenaline pumping like crazy they will only hear the word GO! And they will GO. Shout STOP! because the word Stop, only sounds like STOP! Blue Skies. Burb.T
Good narrative, thanks for your comment. If I could add this has made me think of something I use in my actual job. We use the command 'Still' in my orgabisation I work in. We use it as an emergency order and is a command to everyolbody and can be yelled by anyone so to make safe a situation. It does however only command people to remain absolutely still and not default people into a plane or out of a plane which may be a more desirable outcome. Ignoring of course its really hard to hear.
@@jumpmasterjmthrowing it out like it's some sort of a bomb seems like the most idiotic thing to do especially since there have been skydivers that got hung up on the tail section of a plane before. It wasn't like he was fully out at the time..
@Boozy The Clown I'm both, but look close at the beginning of this clip and you'll see why I made this comment. It's not my intention to call this pilot out personally, but I do think this video is an excellent example of the importance of wearing a bailout rig on every flight as a jump pilot.
10 years in the sport, this is def top 3 scariest videos ive seen. And almost happened to me. My first AFF, i scraped my rig on the pilot seat and opened the container. Neither me or my instructor who was out on the step saw. Other 2 jumpers behind us grabbed me and dove on my D bag as i climbed out. These guys are so lucky that pilot chute went under the tail instead of over.
what was the camera guy thinking?!. In stead of noticing that the bag was out wich is a hughe deal, (don't know how he missed it). he tossed the bag outside risking the parashute getting tangled in the tail and putting everyone on board in danger
@@this_is_a_tiny_town Thrasher Gnar is being literal. The camera flyer was indeed the first one that stepped out. Yes, others had cameras... we all know what was meant by the original comment. I honestly do not understand myself why the D Bag was seen on the floor and then tossed out the door for one of the most unbelievable close calls I have ever seen!
@@sydneyweston3819 It's okay I completely understood the theme of both their comments, but I admit I'm petty AF too lol. But yeah I'm also struggling to understand the actions of the person who threw the bag out, I mean I don't believe there was any thought of malice or whatever, just it was a bizarre decision to make. Just shows that every load should include at least one experienced jumpmaster who can be trusted to take appropriate action when on the rare occasion it's needed it's critically important.
@@this_is_a_tiny_town omg... YES! 🙌 I know this video will be used to teach what NOT to do! As we all know, lots of (possible) dangers in skydiving. That's why what you mentioned is so important. Maybe not just a jumpmaster, but training all skydivers in the importance of safety not just outside the plane, but inside as well. I dunno... all I know is you said it very well. :)
Damn, I would have been mad at the person behind me for not pulling me back in! Should have done a last minute gear check too. I would have been mad at myself for that!
Yea I don’t know how the dude in the plane missed that, as for the student though, she could have done a handle check and pilot chute could have still been in the pouch ay..
@@bobsinclear9046 It looked like the jumper behind the jumper with the container out was trying to get their attention so they could deal with it instead of taking control of the situation themselves.....
Wow!!! That could’ve ended very bad for everyone. Several years ago this same thing happened at my DZ in a Dehavilland Beaver. I wasn’t on the plane but was told by my buddy who was. He said that it actually ripped off one side of the stab. The pilot immediately told everyone to get out now!!! He was out of his seat and at the door ready to jump and ditch the plane but he got back in the seat and was surprised after doing some test that he still had control. He was able to land safely and everyone on the load was told to keep their mouths shut. Lol.
@@Aran2323 Makes me wonder, in that case what happens? They just send the plane down to crash wherever or are pilots required to at least try to guide the plane to "safe" area? I am sure there are situations where there is literally nothing you can do and hope for the best.
@@HelmutGranda not to say that bailing out isn't an option, but it should never be your first instinct. FLY THE PLANE is primary thing that every pilot should be concentrating on
95/100 times this scenario results in minimum 1 fatality. What happens if the guy at the door, by throwing the D bang out the plane, causes her to impact the wing and she dies?
Definitely should have attempted to get him back in the plane. It would have only been the lines in the wind and looks like he had ample time to deal with it.
That was hairy! And talking about hairy jumps: on one of my early jumps on a pig rig back in 1978 I borrowed Gene Ballard's blue rig and put Merle McCoy's Stratocloud in it. Norm Ross flew Perry Stevens' 182 and I dived last from the door on a four-way. No sooner had I left the plane in a head down dive, the reserve deployed at about 10,000 feet agl. Gene had rigged the reserve with one of those Air Force jetblast handles' before people learned how dangerous they could be. Turned out the cable was a little short and when I stretched the rig in a dive, it popped. On the ground, they thought I might have opened in the plane and been extracted. Robert "Norton" Thomas and pilot Gene Koonz grabbed another jump plane and came up. Norton was CCS #001 and he intended to hook up with my round canopy and guide me down if I was hurt or unconscious. They started circling me at about 7000 feet and I started doing "the Freddy" to show them I was okay. I waved Norton off and he rode the plane down. I looked behind me and saw myself drifting toward the big powerlines alongside the Antioch freeway. I mentally visualized tomorrows newspapers: "Skydiver Fries In Powerlines." I honked down on the front risers and thought I would end up hitting somebody's house but managed to slip it to a standup landing in a small triangular piece of ground adjacent to the freeway offramp. A little old couple who had hair and skin as white as snow and looked to be about 90 years old pulled up alongside me in a vintage black Model T Ford and asked cheerfully, "Ya fall out of an airplane, sonny?" I said, "Yeah, can I get a ride to the airport?" They said okay but just then Merle McCoy pulled up in his car. Since I had his parachute, he'd chased me to where I landed. Then, Perry Stevens (who had followed Merle) pulled up as well. Grinning broadly I said, "Hey Perry, I did a standup!" And he said, "Yeah? Well you better get out of here because the police don't like people landing in parachutes in places they're not supposed to be." So I stuffed the rig and jumpsuit into Merle's trunk and just as we pulled out a Highway Patrol car pulled up. We kept going and he didn't follow so went back to Antioch DZ. I've always wondered about those two old folks in the Model T, though. Guardian angels? Sky Gods? Who knows? True story. BLUE SKY! ;-)
I just saw this happen to someone in Southern California. Pilot chute was on deck after he opened door (hop and pop) and before anyone could even do anything it went out the plane. He was sucked out faster than a speeding bullet.. Gotta check those handles multiple times… Two seconds it was over. No time to even push him out.
I was on a 4-way training load from an Otter and saw this happen to our camera guy just before he climbed out. I grabbed him and we contained his d-bag and we slammed the door shut before anything made it out. We rode down on the plane as a team. He bought the beer.
Did that, too, on my first self-opening. All through the course, we were taught to ‘throw’ ourselves from the strut, as hard as we could! So, that’s what I did, while doing my 5 second count. At 5, I was upside down, and figured my rotation speed would have me stomach down in another second, so I’d deploy then! They said it was a sweet back loop, but then explained it was like telling a 5 year old how to brush their teeth. “Go as hard as you can!” To only get a little bit of effort. When I’d done it previously, the drogue already opening arrested my rotation, so nobody really noticed until then... 😉
Lol oh look! the bag and all her lines are just spilling out inside the plane.... how embarrassing! I'll just pretend I didn't see it and give her a shoulder slap when she gets out. The face the first guy out makes though.... lmfao
I would have held onto the bag in the door of the plane until they left the step, then let it go. Also tell the pilot "Right Rudder" to get the plane's horizontal stabilizer out of the way. I've dealt with similar situations when when jumpmastering static line students.
I was taught: if pilot chute or dbag are out of the rig but IN the plane, smother with body and pull the guy back. If pilot chute or dbag are out if the rig and have left the plane, push the guy out. Whoever was behind in the plane nearest the door fucked up badly.
@@calcifer3674 Since you're obviously not a skydiver I'll withhold the appropriate "lol" and just tell you: 1. Jumpers zero their altimeters on the ground before each jump, so that any changes in barometric pressure from the last reset will be accounted for. 2. Any skydiving altimeter with a margin of error of 500 feet would be VERY defective, would not be sold, and should be taken out of service the first time it's noticed.
@@calcifer3674 do you really beleive what you just said ? Can you actually imagine what a 500ft "margin of error" (more a of maeltstron than a margin) would do to airplaines and jumpers everyday ? A plane also uses a "portable altimeter" gps is not in every plane. lol. And for jumpers, it's litterally death or grave injury for anyone pulling after 900ft if your version of reality was the one we lived in. Thank god, you're just saying words, cause skydiving would not be a thing with such ridiculous "margins".
@@Dizzyswoops the main chute was cut away from at a very high altitude. The wind drift however small. Could have carried the main chute hundreds of meters away from the drop zone.
@@chrisconkright9259 true story. As a facilitator for a gap year program. We would go with the students and do a few static line jumps, in Grahamstown South Africa. And every year, there would be students. Who would cut away from their main. And pull their reserve, as they panicked when they saw that they had line twists. The student couldn’t care about tracking where there main chute landed. They just wanted to get back to Mother Earth. Yet the instructors on the ground, would scramble in the direction in which the chute fell. And when the chute landed, it wasn’t visible to us spectators on the ground. Thankfully an instructor had a 50cc Yamaha dt. With a pillion on the back. And they missioned off into the bush to hunt for they chute. So hence me saying, it must have been an epic treasure hunt.
Seems to also have ripped open the fabric of space and time, as you can see the temporal distortion along the side of the plane where you usually would see words like SkyDiveHere! or the like.
That almost happened to me. I wasn’t sure if I was supposed to let go of the strut yet, but the look on the jumpmaster’s face (and his empty hand where my drogue should have been) when I double-checked told me, “Yeah. Yeah, NOW is probably the time to let go!” He’d thought I was letting go when I flexed my fingers and had thrown it when he realized I was still holding on. He was getting over the shock and said his next step would be a jumping tackle to get me away from the elevators! 😄
Thank you for sharing this one, your lucky stars were shining brightly. It's trick in a wee Cessna, to not bump or rub against bits that may dislodge one of your pins. But whether it's a C150, C130 or C17, if we are not paying attention and remembering our back is requiring an extra clearance space to compensate for the Rig. We live our whole life knowing how much personal space we need in a tight squeeze, when you have your Rig on, remember to give it space as well. Happy landings
The fact that the third man not only ses the dbag drop out of the container, but he actually picks it up inside the plane and then tosses it out!!! Are you fucking kidding me? ! That man should be banned for life from skydiving.
Not a skydiver yet but am wondering how that could happen if he didn’t pull the rip chord? I am a pilot tho and that dude and his pilot are so lucky he didn’t hit the tail. Can’t imagine how things would’ve gone had that dude hit his neck or head on the horizontal stabilizer!
Well, ripcords haven't been a thing for decades to begin with. Modern parachutes are generally deployed by a pilot chute that you manually pull out of a pocket on the bottom of the rig and throw away. That pilot chute can get removed from the pocket unintentionally if you get caught on something in the plane for instance. In this case though, what most likely happened is that the pin that hold the bag (inside which is the main canopy), which is what the pilot chute pulls to open the container and pull the main parachute, got dislodged because the jumper scraped the back of the rig against something. The whole bag is clearly outside of the container, lying on the floor of the plane.
I've imagined myself to be on Jeopardy! when the "answer" is "It's what a skydiver pulls to deploy his parachute" and I buzz in and say "pilot chute" and they say it's wrong and another guy says "Ripcord!" and they give him the points so I storm off and wreck the green room.
@@КонстантинБирюков-к9я Согласен! Со-стороны то всё по-другому воспринимается. Но, ситуация очень чрезвычайная и опасная была! Хорошо, что Так закончилась. Да и парень не из простых оказался! Запаску моментом отработал, молодец!
*HOW in the HELL is this even POSSIBLE?* PLEASE explain it to me, someone, anyone? That absolutely shouldn't be possible unless someone pulled his cord on accident or maliciously..
Damn.. both him and more importantly the pilot are *seriously lucky* that this didn't go south. He could have died hitting the control surface, and also disabled that surface and thus the whole plane. Good thing these pilots usually carry a chute ..usually, but far from always. Far from a majority would be my bet.
My thoughts exactly. He had so much time to see the blatantly obvious wide open flapping container and D-bag on the ground. No excuses at all for that. I'm scanning everything around me right until its time to jump- no excuses at all especially being right smack dab behind her. WIld
Im wondering if the other guy way seeing what is happing and was trying to push him out with his handsignals. Or he was just not patient enough and trying to stress the other with his hand signals (I hate that)
Jesus! Get a gear check. Plus always be vigilant of any fabric or gear laying on the floor of the plane! This person could have been pulled aside and not even exited if folks were watching out! Also, the airplane could have been damaged from this, even tail ripped off. Stay safe everyone!
A few inches higher or the plane angle being a few degrees off neutral and it was the recipe for a man cut in half and 4 others dead in a blazing crash.
The person that threw the D bag at :28 needs to lose their license!!!! They could've easily grabbed it and kept it in the plane to worn the jumper, waited until they jumped to throw it or grabbed it and jumped with them to ensure it was AWAY from the plane! But ALSO, what happened to GEAR CHECKS?!?!?!?
If the jumper behind her pulled her back in and the plane went down then he would have been the scapegoat. Everything ended well so he did exactly what needed to be done.
Never jumped nor had any training. That being said, my first instinct would be to keep the stuff inside and drag him back in and prevent him from jumping with malfunctioning gear in the first place. But after reading the video description and some comments I'm no longer sure what would I do in such case. Terrifying.
Full Fuck-up! I am glad everyone is alright. We have many safety rules before, during and after the flight, and all these are rule #1, no room for rule #2. Keep your eyes open up there, this could have be 100% prevented if a ping check was a normal practice.
Thank you for using up all the available luck in the entire skydiving community! Now there is nothing left for future generations of skydivers ^^
Glad everybody is
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Dude who watched the guy climb out the plane with his dbag on the floor should lose his license .
100% agreed
Yeah, seems pretty negligent, but to be fair, even though his camera was fixated on it, his eyes may have been focused elsewhere
@@LucidUnderworld that’s fair, tunnel vision when about to exit is pretty bad for me too
Agree mostly, but we also dont know their level of experience. If you jump, you know door open till exit is a stressful time for inexperienced people. Easy to get super focused on your own checks, movements, yadda yadda. If theyre very experienced, what the actual fuck. But of its a bunch of sub 100 jump people, not as surprising.
Aaanndd just watched it again, might need to shut my mouth. Instead of grabbing their arm gripper, he threw the fuckin Dbag out the door. What the fuck!?? Lucky
Gotta call out their buddies in the plane. How could they let him out the door with the bag on the floor?
Stupidity at its best! 🤦🏻♂️
And after the mistake already happened, I think they should have definitely held the bag and throw that after the jumper.
Yeah. I dont know what they thought. It would be funny to see whats happend?
Not sure if anything has change since the 90's but back then, once your container enters the slipstream you're going outdoors. I'll refer to an incident that happened many years ago where the same type incident led to the right side of the fuselage of Cessna was ripped out.
As it's been many years I don't remember the exact specifics but you can probably find it with a simple Google search.
@@vilhokivihalme9878 If you look closely at about 28 seconds, it looks like they threw out the bag on purpose
Well, on a positive note, he had plenty of time and altitude to deal with the malfunction.
@Boozy The Clown Didn't you see that the right hand end cell had been ripped off?
@@jockmarshall7601 at least the reserve was solid, kinda don't blame him for launching it right away, nice long flight to the ground :)
@@zu438 more time to think about life mistakes and how to pay for a new main.
So why did the other guy threw it, instead of stopping him? Hmmm..🤔
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The look on dude hanging on the wing strut's face and how wide his eyes got @ 2:05 when he saw what happened...........
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was my face too.
It would be very shocking. From that angle it doesn’t look like he’d have any clue what’s about to happen until it does.
This week on, “Skydivers with low self-esteem”:
“Hey ... uhhh ... Amy, your pilot chute was hanging out, so I threw it out of the plane.”
“OK, ttttttthhhhhhhhaaaaannnnnkssssss!!!!”
I KNOW! I was like, DAMN.
What's this D bag doing on the floor? Better yeet it outside the plane.
She might as well go Static Line 😜😜😜 Boom!!! D-Bag thrown out of the plane ✈ 🤪 🤪 🤪
Lesson learned from these videos. NEVER EVER jump on a Friday! 😁
What was the guy in the plane doing.? Not paying attention, that's for sure...
It is easy for us to criticize him, but I agree with you. We all need to watch the jumper ahead of us while in the plane and as they exit. It's our lives too.
@@stewartstewartstewart In diving I stay away from everyone.
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but they left the scene with an epic tale to tell. Well played to all involved but should anyone feel an urgent need to become too judgmental regarding the actions of the skydiver who dealt with the bag, do remember that we get the view from where the guys camera is pointed, but that isn't necessarily where their gaze is directed or where their attention is focused.
Sure, it's cool to play what part you can in ensuring the safety of the guys ahead of you but a C182 can take a while to get there, it's a little cramped, gear gets rubbed and bodies get stiff. it's also worth remembering that there's no fucker behind you to keep an eye on your back.
If I was in his spot I'd likely be paying attention to my own gear to some extent. We'd all like to think that we would spot it sooner, but human attention is a strange thing indeed.
Definitely not aware. Could’ve simply grabbed the whole d bag.
Yea wtf. Bad.
This reminds me of so many situations I have seen when Skydiving. When someone is climbing out of the plane and their Dbag falls onto the floor as in this situation, you only have a second or two to decide what to do. Bringing someone back in off the step can lead to so many potential problems. So throwing the bag out and downwards could be the best option. I have heard instructors say, once they are out they are not coming back in. This rule is ok for low jump students as they can’t process a reset as quick as an experienced jumper can and they will only be a liability trying to get them back in? I was jump master on a demo and we were jumping out of a Cessna 182 with a step like this one and at an allotted time. We knew there were 2 stunt aircraft doing a demo before us and we arrived at the event exactly on time. This was a local carnival with no ground to air radio, so timing was important. .We did our WIDI pass at the agreed time, then climbed to our exit altitude and opened the door. I spotted and gave my mate George the ok to get out. I started to follow him with 2 more jumpers behind me. Something then caught my eye and I looked down. To my amazement I saw 2 Pitts Special stunt aircraft with smoke on right underneath us? These 2 were well over half an hour late but decided to carry on regardless. I looked at George and pointed down and you should have seen his eyes light up. The other 2 jumpers saw them too and we all climbed back in ok and watched their routine from above. We then got out when they were well clear of us. A few more seconds either way for us or the stunt aircraft and we would have definitely made the evening news?
A big big lesson I learnt if things go wrong and you want people to stay in the plane or to even get back in the plane is DO NOT shout NO! Because with all the noise of climbing out and everyone’s adrenaline pumping like crazy they will only hear the word GO! And they will GO. Shout STOP! because the word Stop, only sounds like STOP! Blue Skies. Burb.T
Good narrative, thanks for your comment. If I could add this has made me think of something I use in my actual job.
We use the command 'Still' in my orgabisation I work in.
We use it as an emergency order and is a command to everyolbody and can be yelled by anyone so to make safe a situation.
It does however only command people to remain absolutely still and not default people into a plane or out of a plane which may be a more desirable outcome.
Ignoring of course its really hard to hear.
Or "Drop"
I would have held the bag in the plane until the guy left the step, then throw it
@@jumpmasterjmthrowing it out like it's some sort of a bomb seems like the most idiotic thing to do especially since there have been skydivers that got hung up on the tail section of a plane before. It wasn't like he was fully out at the time..
That jumpsuit will never smell the same again
I bet this pilot had no idea how close they would come to having the tail ripped off their airplane that day. Jump pilots, wear your parachute!!!
@Boozy The Clown I'm both, but look close at the beginning of this clip and you'll see why I made this comment. It's not my intention to call this pilot out personally, but I do think this video is an excellent example of the importance of wearing a bailout rig on every flight as a jump pilot.
Chutes on jump pilots is a requirement in the US.
2:05 Expression on old mates face ...... Priceless
10 years in the sport, this is def top 3 scariest videos ive seen. And almost happened to me. My first AFF, i scraped my rig on the pilot seat and opened the container. Neither me or my instructor who was out on the step saw. Other 2 jumpers behind us grabbed me and dove on my D bag as i climbed out. These guys are so lucky that pilot chute went under the tail instead of over.
Lesson learned - never trust the guy who let him step out of the plane with his pack flopped open on the floor of the plane!
He's still lucky that he didn't cut his body in half by hitting the tail. That's freaking second's from his demised.
...and taking everyone else with him...
@@ChrisLee-yr7tz If a plane full of skydivers with parachutes kills all its passengers in a crash it was meant to be.
what was the camera guy thinking?!. In stead of noticing that the bag was out wich is a hughe deal, (don't know how he missed it). he tossed the bag outside risking the parashute getting tangled in the tail and putting everyone on board in danger
The only thing the camera guy did was climb outside and hang on the front of the strut and film the action.
@@ThrasherGnar You know there was more than one 'camera guy' yeah?
@@this_is_a_tiny_town Thrasher Gnar is being literal. The camera flyer was indeed the first one that stepped out. Yes, others had cameras... we all know what was meant by the original comment. I honestly do not understand myself why the D Bag was seen on the floor and then tossed out the door for one of the most unbelievable close calls I have ever seen!
@@sydneyweston3819 It's okay I completely understood the theme of both their comments, but I admit I'm petty AF too lol.
But yeah I'm also struggling to understand the actions of the person who threw the bag out, I mean I don't believe there was any thought of malice or whatever, just it was a bizarre decision to make. Just shows that every load should include at least one experienced jumpmaster who can be trusted to take appropriate action when on the rare occasion it's needed it's critically important.
@@this_is_a_tiny_town omg... YES! 🙌 I know this video will be used to teach what NOT to do! As we all know, lots of (possible) dangers in skydiving. That's why what you mentioned is so important. Maybe not just a jumpmaster, but training all skydivers in the importance of safety not just outside the plane, but inside as well.
I dunno... all I know is you said it very well. :)
Finally a good freakout the last couple of weeks were bad
When he got on the ground, he played the lottery and won.
More like never play the lottery again after using a lifetimes luck in a matter of seconds...
Damn, I would have been mad at the person behind me for not pulling me back in! Should have done a last minute gear check too. I would have been mad at myself for that!
Did you see the size of that heifer?
Or at the very least not spearing you off the plane ... like if you see the bag leave the door get them tf away from the plane
that jumper should have cancelled that jump. thats not cool that the jumper behind didnt stop him/her from leaving the plane. judging eyes @ 2:05
Yea I don’t know how the dude in the plane missed that, as for the student though, she could have done a handle check and pilot chute could have still been in the pouch ay..
@@bobsinclear9046 It looked like the jumper behind the jumper with the container out was trying to get their attention so they could deal with it instead of taking control of the situation themselves.....
Probably a very awkward discussion back on earth. How do you see that and let him/her step out?
how did no one notice that as he was leaving the plane. Though no one on the plane was looking out for him, someone in heaven certainly was.
Quickest downsize ever
I’m glad that the geniuses inside the plane aren’t air traffic controllers.
Wow. They've really got your back on this flight.
Wow!!! That could’ve ended very bad for everyone. Several years ago this same thing happened at my DZ in a Dehavilland Beaver. I wasn’t on the plane but was told by my buddy who was. He said that it actually ripped off one side of the stab. The pilot immediately told everyone to get out now!!! He was out of his seat and at the door ready to jump and ditch the plane but he got back in the seat and was surprised after doing some test that he still had control. He was able to land safely and everyone on the load was told to keep their mouths shut. Lol.
A pilot whose first reaction is to get out of his seat before he has even tried to continue to fly the plane is not a pilot I'd want to fly with...
@@Aran2323 Makes me wonder, in that case what happens? They just send the plane down to crash wherever or are pilots required to at least try to guide the plane to "safe" area? I am sure there are situations where there is literally nothing you can do and hope for the best.
@@HelmutGranda not to say that bailing out isn't an option, but it should never be your first instinct. FLY THE PLANE is primary thing that every pilot should be concentrating on
@@Aran2323it can be impossible to bail out of an out-of-control plane… It’s not as if it’s a fighter jet with ejector seats.
95/100 times this scenario results in minimum 1 fatality. What happens if the guy at the door, by throwing the D bang out the plane, causes her to impact the wing and she dies?
Definitely should have attempted to get him back in the plane. It would have only been the lines in the wind and looks like he had ample time to deal with it.
The look on the guys face in front of him was priceless.
That was hairy! And talking about hairy jumps: on one of my early jumps on a pig rig back in 1978 I borrowed Gene Ballard's blue rig and put Merle McCoy's Stratocloud in it. Norm Ross flew Perry Stevens' 182 and I dived last from the door on a four-way. No sooner had I left the plane in a head down dive, the reserve deployed at about 10,000 feet agl. Gene had rigged the reserve with one of those Air Force jetblast handles' before people learned how dangerous they could be. Turned out the cable was a little short and when I stretched the rig in a dive, it popped. On the ground, they thought I might have opened in the plane and been extracted. Robert "Norton" Thomas and pilot Gene Koonz grabbed another jump plane and came up. Norton was CCS #001 and he intended to hook up with my round canopy and guide me down if I was hurt or unconscious. They started circling me at about 7000 feet and I started doing "the Freddy" to show them I was okay. I waved Norton off and he rode the plane down. I looked behind me and saw myself drifting toward the big powerlines alongside the Antioch freeway. I mentally visualized tomorrows newspapers: "Skydiver Fries In Powerlines." I honked down on the front risers and thought I would end up hitting somebody's house but managed to slip it to a standup landing in a small triangular piece of ground adjacent to the freeway offramp. A little old couple who had hair and skin as white as snow and looked to be about 90 years old pulled up alongside me in a vintage black Model T Ford and asked cheerfully, "Ya fall out of an airplane, sonny?" I said, "Yeah, can I get a ride to the airport?" They said okay but just then Merle McCoy pulled up in his car. Since I had his parachute, he'd chased me to where I landed. Then, Perry Stevens (who had followed Merle) pulled up as well. Grinning broadly I said, "Hey Perry, I did a standup!" And he said, "Yeah? Well you better get out of here because the police don't like people landing in parachutes in places they're not supposed to be." So I stuffed the rig and jumpsuit into Merle's trunk and just as we pulled out a Highway Patrol car pulled up. We kept going and he didn't follow so went back to Antioch DZ. I've always wondered about those two old folks in the Model T, though. Guardian angels? Sky Gods? Who knows? True story. BLUE SKY! ;-)
The guy threw the jumpers D bag out the door instead of pulling the jumper back in. I would ban him from the DZ.
I just saw this happen to someone in Southern California. Pilot chute was on deck after he opened door (hop and pop) and before anyone could even do anything it went out the plane. He was sucked out faster than a speeding bullet.. Gotta check those handles multiple times… Two seconds it was over. No time to even push him out.
I was on a 4-way training load from an Otter and saw this happen to our camera guy just before he climbed out. I grabbed him and we contained his d-bag and we slammed the door shut before anything made it out. We rode down on the plane as a team. He bought the beer.
My god his chute went through the tail of the plane like a ghost , bloody miracle
That's probably the 1st time in history that anyone that's ever went skydiving had their parachute open above the plane they jumped out of!!
That was the best sub terminal backflip I have ever seen.
Did that, too, on my first self-opening. All through the course, we were taught to ‘throw’ ourselves from the strut, as hard as we could! So, that’s what I did, while doing my 5 second count. At 5, I was upside down, and figured my rotation speed would have me stomach down in another second, so I’d deploy then! They said it was a sweet back loop, but then explained it was like telling a 5 year old how to brush their teeth. “Go as hard as you can!” To only get a little bit of effort. When I’d done it previously, the drogue already opening arrested my rotation, so nobody really noticed until then... 😉
HOLY! That was close!
Lol oh look! the bag and all her lines are just spilling out inside the plane.... how embarrassing! I'll just pretend I didn't see it and give her a shoulder slap when she gets out. The face the first guy out makes though.... lmfao
LOL
It worse! If you look closely he throws the bag out himself!!
I would have held onto the bag in the door of the plane until they left the step, then let it go. Also tell the pilot "Right Rudder" to get the plane's horizontal stabilizer out of the way. I've dealt with similar situations when when jumpmastering static line students.
I was taught: if pilot chute or dbag are out of the rig but IN the plane, smother with body and pull the guy back. If pilot chute or dbag are out if the rig and have left the plane, push the guy out. Whoever was behind in the plane nearest the door fucked up badly.
First thing I noticed is that the pilot cheated the jumpers out of 500 feet. 0:10
This actually depends on the wheather / outside temp. at this height there is a high error margin on portable altimeters.
@@calcifer3674 Since you're obviously not a skydiver I'll withhold the appropriate "lol" and just tell you:
1. Jumpers zero their altimeters on the ground before each jump, so that any changes in barometric pressure from the last reset will be accounted for.
2. Any skydiving altimeter with a margin of error of 500 feet would be VERY defective, would not be sold, and should be taken out of service the first time it's noticed.
@@calcifer3674 do you really beleive what you just said ? Can you actually imagine what a 500ft "margin of error" (more a of maeltstron than a margin) would do to airplaines and jumpers everyday ? A plane also uses a "portable altimeter" gps is not in every plane. lol.
And for jumpers, it's litterally death or grave injury for anyone pulling after 900ft if your version of reality was the one we lived in.
Thank god, you're just saying words, cause skydiving would not be a thing with such ridiculous "margins".
@@sirzebra well he said “at that height”. Cuz you know at 12,000 feet or at 501 feet off the ground it doesn’t matter if you alt is off by 500 feet
Finding that main chute must have been an epic treasure hunt.
Why? Or, right, the lineset..
@@Dizzyswoops the main chute was cut away from at a very high altitude. The wind drift however small. Could have carried the main chute hundreds of meters away from the drop zone.
@@rainhart458 From under his reserve the jumper would just follow the main and land next to it or at least mark where it landed. No problem.
@@chrisconkright9259 true story. As a facilitator for a gap year program. We would go with the students and do a few static line jumps, in Grahamstown South Africa. And every year, there would be students. Who would cut away from their main. And pull their reserve, as they panicked when they saw that they had line twists. The student couldn’t care about tracking where there main chute landed. They just wanted to get back to Mother Earth. Yet the instructors on the ground, would scramble in the direction in which the chute fell. And when the chute landed, it wasn’t visible to us spectators on the ground. Thankfully an instructor had a 50cc Yamaha dt. With a pillion on the back. And they missioned off into the bush to hunt for they chute. So hence me saying, it must have been an epic treasure hunt.
Jumper #3 is NOT a buddy I would want with me anymore....
Seems to also have ripped open the fabric of space and time, as you can see the temporal distortion along the side of the plane where you usually would see words like SkyDiveHere! or the like.
Nobody paying attention as he moved forward with chute open?? Wouldn’t jump with them anymore !
Yikes! 😬 One of the most messed up FF vids I've seen. The wide eyes on the guy hanging from the strut say it all.
i am amazed, you can see the guy behind him throw his dbag out of the plane!!!
that's a f*cking nightmare
Human error versus legalistic law of gravity…….a lethal combination.
great work to whoever did the gear checks, how the fuck could you miss that
At least the dude doesn't have to bother to go look for his main. The dude inside must have been asleep. I would have given that guy the boot.
How could he not have noticed the canopy was broken when he packed it?
Or was it a packer with the attitude "you get what you give me"...
;-)
That almost happened to me. I wasn’t sure if I was supposed to let go of the strut yet, but the look on the jumpmaster’s face (and his empty hand where my drogue should have been) when I double-checked told me, “Yeah. Yeah, NOW is probably the time to let go!” He’d thought I was letting go when I flexed my fingers and had thrown it when he realized I was still holding on. He was getting over the shock and said his next step would be a jumping tackle to get me away from the elevators! 😄
Thank you for sharing this one, your lucky stars were shining brightly.
It's trick in a wee Cessna, to not bump or rub against bits that may dislodge one of your pins.
But whether it's a C150, C130 or C17, if we are not paying attention and remembering our back is requiring an extra clearance space to compensate for the Rig.
We live our whole life knowing how much personal space we need in a tight squeeze, when you have your Rig on, remember to give it space as well.
Happy landings
The fact that the third man not only ses the dbag drop out of the container, but he actually picks it up inside the plane and then tosses it out!!! Are you fucking kidding me? ! That man should be banned for life from skydiving.
The face of that guy opposite of him says it all...
Almost got decrapitated
2:05 mark. Dudes face looks like the baby who did his first bottle flip
Man not joining that club 🤪
The guy behind him filming was looking right at the risers on the floor of the plane and did nothing.
Great friend in the plane, always will cover your back :D :D :D
And the pilot had no bail out rig !!!!!!
If I got this thing right. The third guy saw the canopy out of the bag and he didn't try to stop the second guy to go out of the plane???
What was the dude hanging from the strut waiting on??
"Sara almost just got killed so I guess we will just do a 3 way instead of 4 way"???
I hope he brought a book to read on the way down.
Not a skydiver yet but am wondering how that could happen if he didn’t pull the rip chord? I am a pilot tho and that dude and his pilot are so lucky he didn’t hit the tail. Can’t imagine how things would’ve gone had that dude hit his neck or head on the horizontal stabilizer!
Well, ripcords haven't been a thing for decades to begin with. Modern parachutes are generally deployed by a pilot chute that you manually pull out of a pocket on the bottom of the rig and throw away. That pilot chute can get removed from the pocket unintentionally if you get caught on something in the plane for instance.
In this case though, what most likely happened is that the pin that hold the bag (inside which is the main canopy), which is what the pilot chute pulls to open the container and pull the main parachute, got dislodged because the jumper scraped the back of the rig against something.
The whole bag is clearly outside of the container, lying on the floor of the plane.
I've imagined myself to be on Jeopardy! when the "answer" is "It's what a skydiver pulls to deploy his parachute" and I buzz in and say "pilot chute" and they say it's wrong and another guy says "Ripcord!" and they give him the points so I storm off and wreck the green room.
@@DavidFerree54 "What is a pilot chute"
@@austinwessels Basically a smaller parachute that you throw that pulls out bag containing the main canopy.
@@xTRNT I think he was referring to how people answer in jeopardy. He most likely already knows what a pilot chute is
The zoom in at 1:55 🤣🤣🤣
That's why I insist you get on your knees prior exit and check your equipment.
He looks for ages at the open container, lol
Story goes that they're still looking for that main...
Handled well. With speed changes hard to say, but seemed to cutaway quick.
hope he enjoyed the view!
And the long canopy ride.
Is that the special education skydrive class?
Did I just see the guy inside THROWING THE BAG OUT???
That was one EXPENSIVE jump!!
Can he retrieve his main after cut away that high ?
Retrieve the main for what? its literally in pieces....
The Leroy Jenkins of skydiving.
не понимаю, почему его сразу не оттолкнули от выхода
Выпускающий лоханулся... Мешок у него под ногами был!
Хватай за стропы и назад в самолет втаскивай. Ему очень крупно повезло. Стропой ничего не оторвало да головой/спиной о хвост не приложило.
@@СемёнНавзараки возможно просто произошла внештатная ситуация, к которой человек был не готов, но как минимум можно было за ранец одернуть
@@КонстантинБирюков-к9я Согласен! Со-стороны то всё по-другому воспринимается. Но, ситуация очень чрезвычайная и опасная была! Хорошо, что Так закончилась. Да и парень не из простых оказался! Запаску моментом отработал, молодец!
*HOW in the HELL is this even POSSIBLE?* PLEASE explain it to me, someone, anyone?
That absolutely shouldn't be possible unless someone pulled his cord on accident or maliciously..
Damn.. both him and more importantly the pilot are *seriously lucky* that this didn't go south.
He could have died hitting the control surface, and also disabled that surface and thus the whole plane.
Good thing these pilots usually carry a chute ..usually, but far from always. Far from a majority would be my bet.
How did that guy inside not see the D Bag fall on the floor!!
third man out should never be allowed to don a parachute again and all should refuse to jump with him
My thoughts exactly. He had so much time to see the blatantly obvious wide open flapping container and D-bag on the ground. No excuses at all for that. I'm scanning everything around me right until its time to jump- no excuses at all especially being right smack dab behind her. WIld
Im wondering if the other guy way seeing what is happing and was trying to push him out with his handsignals. Or he was just not patient enough and trying to stress the other with his hand signals (I hate that)
Jesus! Get a gear check. Plus always be vigilant of any fabric or gear laying on the floor of the plane! This person could have been pulled aside and not even exited if folks were watching out! Also, the airplane could have been damaged from this, even tail ripped off. Stay safe everyone!
A few inches higher or the plane angle being a few degrees off neutral and it was the recipe for a man cut in half and 4 others dead in a blazing crash.
How did the guys in the plane miss that??
ไปตามเก็บร่มที่คัตทิ้งยังไงครับ?
Lots of loose closing loops out there. If you struggle to set your pin, you’re right.
PLS THE OTHER GUYS FACE WHILE WATCHING THAT HAPPEN
The person that threw the D bag at :28 needs to lose their license!!!! They could've easily grabbed it and kept it in the plane to worn the jumper, waited until they jumped to throw it or grabbed it and jumped with them to ensure it was AWAY from the plane!
But ALSO, what happened to GEAR CHECKS?!?!?!?
If the main had got wrapped on the tail of the plane, the pilot would be a dead man. No emergency chute.
The look on old mates face os priceless 😂
If the jumper behind her pulled her back in and the plane went down then he would have been the scapegoat. Everything ended well so he did exactly what needed to be done.
ahem...did I just watch an assasination attempt?
you don't need enemies with friends like that
1:53 и че, он типа не заметил что у него камера выпала? о_О
Такой себе друг
Та кореш его просто подумал что он на пилотирование собрался)
@@HannaMontana203 ага, купольное)
Ну как не заметил? На 32 секунде он ему ещё и удружил, своими руками камеру выкинул за борт.
Чувак который висел на колесе больше всех офигел)😂😃
I wonder with country he landed in.
How tf do you NOT see that parachute open? And you let that person climb out there
Never jumped nor had any training. That being said, my first instinct would be to keep the stuff inside and drag him back in and prevent him from jumping with malfunctioning gear in the first place. But after reading the video description and some comments I'm no longer sure what would I do in such case. Terrifying.
Full Fuck-up! I am glad everyone is alright. We have many safety rules before, during and after the flight, and all these are rule #1, no room for rule #2. Keep your eyes open up there, this could have be 100% prevented if a ping check was a normal practice.
GEES! His jar of luck was certainly overflowing that day!!! So glad he is OK! 😨 😨 😨
he and the whole plane with others divers.
Why did noone jump on the bag!
Why would they let him jump?