I find it odd that China considers long hair feminine when culturally the Chinese kept their hair long for centuries before western influence. Edit: Yes I know long hair is feminine, but I'm referring to a time when it was considered typical for a man unlike now.
Power is the heroin of the small-minded man And force, force is the needle, the gun in his hand He lusts to control all the people and the land Complete, total destruction, his ultimate end
No matter where you go in the world, it seems like there's always this paradox; Tradition is strong enough to stand the test of time by itself but is fragile enough to constantly be threatened unless propped.
Or traditions have stood the test of time because people stood guard over them and took decisions with the interest in protecting those traditions(however they deemed best). Not being Chinese so I don’t know the culture but apparently they dislike effeminate men being a societal model they want men to follow. They see it as something they want to contain before it becomes engrained in their culture like how they see it in Japanese and Korean culture.
Tradition isn't beneficial in of itself. Historically, slavery, genocide, domestic violence, child brides, etc. have all been part of the tradition of many societies. Do you think that they serve the public good just because they existed for thousands of years of recorded history (and likely long before recorded history)? Or does it make sense to evaluate things on their own merits? How are other people, or society in general, harmed by some men being "effeminate?"
@@ENB90 - You think that that's an accurate assessment of Japanese and Korean cultures? Here's a hint: it isn't. Same deal when glam rock was popular in the U.S. in the 1970's, and when hair metal and New Wave were popular in the 80's. And the American right wing practically worship the "Founding Fathers," who wore wigs, frilly shirts, stockings, short pants to show off their calves, and makeup in some cases.
It's almost like their new Billionaire class that State capitalism created want a distraction from their crooked dealings, just like American billionaires do. One of the oldest tricks in the book: Give people an enemy so they don't see the enemy already lording over them.
@@alfonso8843 My body; my choice but from the natal male point of view. Resisting the draft/military is body autonomy as well as taking cross hormones. The emperor/President/leader wants what they want; and they need bodies to do it.
It's meant to make a certain subset of western society hate China and Chinese culture so that they will support future conflict. There is no other reason for this video.
@@PatrickWDunne it's ok if you keep it to yourself, but it's another thing to advertise it on media so it influence so many children who should have grown up normally without such influence
I don't accept the premise that supposedly effeminate men are not men. However, looking at Chinese demographics, it doesn't appear as though running out of men ought to be their main concern.
Or running out of desirable men. Population growth must maintain zero sum at minimum. One young person working won’t be able to support 3 old people on government medical for example.
In the face of modern challenges and the complexity of the modern world, much of the world is shifting hard to the right. "Tradition," simple "solutions" etc. are appealing to a lot of people, in addition to scapegoating and bigotry just to try to make oneself feel better. It's not good for any country, or for relations between countries. Countries controlled by "strongmen" will very likely continue to lead them into war and to attack their own people, to show how "strong" they are.
The funny thing is a large chuck of these women love "feminine". Just look at the media and content they produce, look at how they go gaga at idols etc. China is shooting themselves in the foot. If you think these woman are going to go from loving their femboys, to uber masculine men, then your crazy.
An additional factor about these "effeminate" men is that a lot of them, specifically the singers you see on TV, are directly influenced by Korean/Japanese pop culture. Chinese audiences watch these men because they are familiar in the sense that they are Chinese whilst emulating Korean/Japanese pop culture; an example is the show "Idol Producer". Banning them will mean that Chinese audiences will probably turn away from Chinese media and to foreign media such as Korean/Japanese for this sort of content. Considering China's relationship with Korea and Japan I don't know if that's what they want to do lmfao.
Or conversely, perhaps part of the motivation is fear that 'traditional' Chinese culture is being influenced too much? I can't help imagining the CCP leadership as a sort of Chinese-equivalent to the boomer stereotype, ranting about how much better everything was back in their day and trying to ban anything they find new and strange.
I would agree, but the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people only have access to what the CCP allows them to. So while some people will turn more away from CCP media, most won't. I think ultimately it will have the intended outcome of trying to further divide the Chinese people from their neighbors. Which the CCP obviously wants since part of its image as a world power is being aggressive towards it's neighbors.
Korea/Japan are occupied by the U.S., these people have deliberately been sissified to not challenge US hegemony in the region. CIA plot turned Japan, which was once a country of alpha male warriors, into sissy cartoon jerk offs. Sad but true.
I think what this short documentary completely fails to address is that there is no one traditional chinese masculinity, but rather more nuanced roles. Especially in imperial China there were a lot of good associations with idealised more feminine men, who tend to be better educated in the liberal arts such as poetry as opposed to typical military leader type men
Not all true. Warriors in ancient China who were well versed in poetry weren’t regarded as feminine. IT was seen as an attractive trait. “A man that is strong, able to provide for his family/people while also being good in a more subtle thing such as poetry?” Thats attractive
The problem is associating "fighting spirit" as an inately masculine quality. Inner strength is not masculine or feminine, it goes much deeper than that. "Strength" and bravery are not measured by a short haircut, big muscles or beard.
They do, however, certainly help. Look at how much the strongest woman in the world (whom has trained and lifted and built strength her whole life" can lift versus how much the strongest man can lift. It's a biological issue not an opinion or hopeful wishes issue.
But in one way, the sex difference is stark: Men are physically stronger than women, on average. A study in the Journal of Applied Physiology found that men had an average of 26 lbs. (12 kilograms) more skeletal muscle mass than women. Women also exhibited about 40 percent less upper-body strength and 33 percent less lower-body strength, on average, the study found. The researchers found that height and weight differences between men and women could explain only about half of the difference in strength. Researchers reporting in 1993 in the European Journal of Applied Physiology(opens in new tab) found that men's brawn could also be attributed to a larger cross-section in individual muscle fibers. [5 Myths About Women's Bodies] And a 2006 study in the same journal revealed that men had much stronger grips than women - the difference was so big that 90 percent of the women scored lower than 95 percent of the men. The team also looked at highly trained female athletes who excelled at sports requiring a strong grip, such as judo or handball. Though these women did have a stronger grip compared with other women, they still performed worse than 75 percent of the men on this task. In general, men are also faster than women. The fastest woman in the world, Florence Griffith Joyner, ran the 100-meter dash in just 10.49 seconds in 1988, and that record remains unbroken. Yet her fastest time wouldn't have even qualified her for the men's 2016 Olympic competition, which requires competitors to finish the 100-meter sprint in 10.16 seconds or less. www.livescience.com/52998-women-combat-gender-differences.html
The US regressing isn't as bad as China. Unlike China we have (50) States with the people having the right to vote and decide what we want for our people in specific areas. It may seem bad, but it's a whole lot better than a 1 child policy, under 1 rule, and censorship. We take for granted what others wish they have. In China's case their 1 child policy made too many men with no idea of what lie ahead.
@@le_nonexistent8528That's not called masculinity. Obsessing over others tell more about your insecurity. Being masculine means having testosterone. Not forcing people to behave in a certain way. With masculinity you need tolerance for others.
In Ancient China, everyone has long hair… as a sign of respect for their ancestor/parents, what’s the big deal making guys have short hair cuts? It’s just one way for the government to enforce control…
@TrippyStorm I don't agree with most of what China does, but this is a good thing for China and the world needs to follow. Go back to when effeminate men were very rare and same sex marriage was illegal 🙏🏾📖🙏🏻 Damn you Obama for legalizing same sex marriage ❗
@@Khabasalainganba 1. Its what girls want. The entire Idol culture revolves around the idea of the ideal wants of each gender. If a guys wants girls to be Tomboyish, it would revolve around that and vice versa for girls. 2. Standards of masculinity is so broad that saying that one thing is masculine or feminine is impossible. For instance: Pink was once used by men as a status symbol. Now its associated as a symbol for women. 3. Their standards of fashion of masculine basically equivalents to "Being a 50 year old dad from the 1950s"
Ironically, getting your hair cut was considered something disrespectful to your family back then in China, cause they believed that your body is your parents's property,even if you're grown up, and you can't just destroy your parents's property. And we can see how that tradition is portrayed in chinese series and donghuas, so why take a ideal of masculinity that is more related to a western tradition if it's the Western that needed to be fought?
The hairstyles you see of 'martial' historical Chinese men are distinct from a subset of modern hairstyles that would be labelled as 'not masculine'. But yes, overall, it is astounding and perhaps even appalling how much the entire world has assimilated to western culture as a result of western hegemony for the past 200 years.
Hence why my Chinese associates call them a Warlord Council or a Council of Warlords. "Is it really any better off to have the Chinese Communist Party if everyone in it behaves no differently than if we ruled over by these hedonistic Warlords of a century ago?" - Chinese Woman and Associate of mine who wishes to remain Anonymous.
Regarding the old man who appears @3:30 saying Korean men are sissies. He must think everyone looks and acts like BTS. In reality, all Korean men have to serve in the military. Sports and martial arts are huge. Korean Zombie, Choi Doo Ho, Chu Sung Hoon, Son Heung Min, and on and on. Also, the old man doesn't realize that his "we need more men" philosophy is probably at least part of the problem in China.... China already has too many dudes and not enough women. So dont be surprised when some of the dudes start acting like women. Also, funny how he thinks all American movies are blow em up shoot em up. Ever heard of Brokeback Mountain? It really is funny to compare this to the rhetoric of American social conservatives. They say the same thing the old man is saying, but about America.... Thought the one office worker guy had a good point about the law being to vague. Also reminds me of how vague "woke" is in the US....
I hate it too, but the ban isn’t that big tbh. If you check out any Chinese show right now, the actors are all wearing makeup and lip tints. It’s vague and the enforced in weird ways (dyed hair is banned, but guys still appear on national tv with dyed brown or blonde hair). On social media, there’s a biggg gay community, but people use slang and other words for hashtags sadly :(
They are not being themselves, these idol are industry plants and have to act according to the producer. There target audience are mostly teen girls so they have to maintain friendly, cute image. These artist off stage are pretty macho.
@@slowonNurburgring Not all of them are idols you wacko. Just boys who like cute stuff and wanna live. Nothing wrong with the idols either just doing their job
That's how life is - some men are tough and some are not. Its the same with women - some like wearing pretty frocks but others like wearing trousers and climbing trees. We should not interfere with nature.
@@Anonymous-yc9fl pretty sure they exist in nature therefore they’re “natural”. maybe look up the definition of a word before you use it to spread your bigotry? 🤷♂️
@Black King I don't understand the rigidity of that mindset. Look at an individuals psychology, skillset, work ethic, political compass, etc. It's all on a spectrum so why would sexuality be any different? Maybe you're just very close minded so you'll never see the intricacies of human beings clearly, or maybe you're smart enough and you'll ponder this comment
@Black King How is it wrong to have long hair or how does even suggest weakness ? same could be said about skirts or makeup. Lot of warriors wore something similar to skirts back in the day.
There's a profound irony to the comments in here by people with car/trucks/flowers, the same going "BUT MAH FREDOMZ" now saying "good work" at an authoritatian one-party state for banning yet another form of individual expression.
There's a profound irony in a comment by somebody talking about individual expression and freedom generalizing about everybody that make the same one word comment!
I don't agree with most of what China does, but this is a good thing for China and the world needs to follow. Go back to when effeminate men were very rare and same sex marriage was illegal 🙏🏾📖🙏🏻
And to think that he actually said that by being effeminate, men lose their "rebellious spirit". It seems to me that being an effeminate man in a world that hates gender non-conformity is one of the most rebellious things a man can do!
China has a subtle traditional philosophy of governance where leaders do not rigidly enforce every regulation without any room for flexibility. Instead, they leave some gray areas for people or matters that may not align perfectly with the mainstream values of the country to exist. While these regulations may be strict when initially released, they tend to relax significantly after a certain period of time.
Yes we call that authoritarianism. Hardly subtle or unique. Making everything illegal and then selectively prosecuting things to target specific groups and individuals at specific times
it is not intended to be loosely enforced but rather impossible to enforce. the vast geography of china leads to inevitable variation with local rulers often having more power than national leaders. this also leads to corruption as well.
@@2bad610 population growth at minimum must be zero just to maintain society. One young person working won’t be able to support 3 old people on government medical for example. The Japanese’s lead the world in automation because of this and they are literally dying.
That isn't necessarily masculine though. The 'Rebellious spirit' is actually not what you'd want if you need mindless workers. So in your paradigm they'd actually not want to push masculinity too far.
I am Chinese, and I would like to explain from another angle why Chinese people, especially traditional Chinese people, are worried about such things. China is a nation of history and we have great respect for history books. But according to Chinese history books, when men wear women's clothes and behave in an increasingly feminine way, it is a precursor to the imminent collapse of the dynasty. There are plenty of such accounts and arguments in the history books. ““末喜冠男子之冠，桀亡天下。”“男女之别，国之大节，故服物异等，赞币不同”，“遍身女衣者，尽是读书人”，“男穿女衣，亡国之兆”……”"When Muxi crowned a man's crown, Jie died in the world." "The difference between men and women, the country's great festival, so the clothes should be different "All gentelmen in academia are wearing women's clothes! cry !," "Men wearing women's clothes, the omen of the collapse of the country" ......I don't care if this argument is valid or not, but it does have a profound impact on the Chinese psyche. Chatting about it.
I remember about 30 years ago, when I first went to university and came to Beijing, one of the most open-minded city in China at that time, I saw a man dressed a bit like a woman. Several of my classmates from conservative rural provinces commented that if this man had turned up in our area, he would have been disabled by now because everyone would have beaten him up. I was feeling a bit shocked, and while I don't like males who dress like that either, it's not like I would beat them to disability. I mention this to illustrate two points, firstly, there is a fair degree of resistance to the feminisation of males in our nation, and secondly, after all, society is evolving, and now of course traditionalists will still be offended, but wherever they are, at least they won't be beaten up.
Honestly, for myself and most of the older Chinese around me, especially men, we have been complaining about this for a long time. We are afraid of it and we cannot do anything about it. When the CCP decided to take measures to control the situation, everyone was very supportive and said: this is long overdue!
Sounds like something right wing media would totally be on board with, instead of worrying about a small minority of people maybe they should live their own lifes and stop trying to control other peoples lives.
Yet the minority of people are trying to dictate other people’s children, hijack an entire language and demanding convenience at the expense of others, literally what a parasite would do.
But, they're still men. Feminine or not they're still men. I understand people feeling iffy about trans people, but feminine/masculine in any gender is a problem? Grow up. I'm surprised people are born this uncultured.
@@leifanderson3487 treaty of versailles started WWII Germany shouldve never been blamed for WWII and forced into economical ruins because of reparations
What morals though? When did effeminate men threaten a countries morals? The country must be based on very unstable foundation if effeminate men are a threat to its morals. And gay men nor trans ppl haven’t been allowed survive long enough to enrich a nations culture. Our nations are recessing backwards… next we will accept slavery.
"nothing wrong with" thats your subjective opinion. In islamic culture that is considered offense and often punished by death sentece (in saudi arabia for example)
“Easier times just make them more visible” that’s literally the problem. These people are privileged and lucky they don’t go through any hardships in their life. They’ve never had to utilize their ‘masculinity’ because they live in a world where nearly everything is given to them on a silver platter. They don’t hunt, they don’t work, they don’t live in neighborhoods where people will beat them to the curb for looking like that. These people take advantage of their privilege, thinking they have the right to be a degenerate. Was being ‘normal’ really too much to ask for these people? Despite having all this luxury? They are not only ungrateful, but they are also unwise.
Wouldn't have happened if these people didn't invade our privacy by using their social media in the first place. Wouldn't have happened if these people didn't try to expose our children to their sissy behavior.
@@Khabasalainganba lol, you’re the responsible party if you have children to ensure they watch acceptable content. I imagine this is when you’ll go into a litany of occurrences when in every facet of life sissy trans or drag queens came up to your family and shoved their views down you and your family throats, give me a break. You’re looking for a target and voila!
@@Khabasalainganba how are people invading YOUR privacy when they use THEIR social media? You’re responsible for the content you watch on there or if you’re on there at all. It’s amazing to see somebody go full throttle into total unabashed helpless victim hood
@@Lhwbakao I didn't search for their contents. They popped up. We can't control what pops up on our feed. So when our children use social media platforms for productive use they are also exposed to such degrading contents. Abnormalities should be treated as Abnormalities rather than trying to impose them upon us.
@@Khabasalainganba Or you don't let your kids have unrestricted access to the internet. That's much more likely to succeed than policing people's behavior, which has never worked in human history. Again the question comes up, why are you going on websites that will show you gay porn if that's so offensive to you? Mind your own business or people are going to be digging into the fact that you keep watching gay porn over and over again, as admitted by yourself.
And as a woman. Im paranoid right now there's recently a strong anti lgbtq movement in my country yet the community is significantly lower and patriachy is strong in Africa. I believe this sizzling anti lgbtq situation is only because they reminisce of the past where men had any and everything. Once they(may god forbid) oppress the lgbtq community even more, women are next in line. I hate watching this😑
@@A_T_E_R_R_Y You should probably be more concerned with China moving into Africa to use you in the next world war but hey, sissy men is what's important. 😂
Hasn't the concept of a man being feminine been deeply ingrained in Chinese culture? The Peking Opera (京劇 - Jingju) serves as a notable example with men often portraying female roles, kinda paradox.
@@iac92 correct. Ancient greek theatre also had female roles played by men yet being submissive or sissy as a man was more than enough to get you purged from society
It’s strange how he’s so concerned with masculinity being wiped out. The fact that some insecure men are so virulently resistant to the existence of more feminine men PROVES there’s so such thing of “masculine men being wiped out”.
He's talking about needing men to go to war, yet he was a professor of sexology. When I think of a masculine hardened soldier, yup professor of sexology is the first that comes to mind. I guess as a teacher he believe's people are taught to be who they are, meaning he also believe's he had no choice in how 'masculine' he is, because he was taught the traditional way to be a man.
@@JacobSnover Do you think 'sexually liberated' people somehow own the field of sexuality? Scholarship into one of the fundamental parts of the human psyche isn't 'effeminate,' its just knowledge for a purpose. Believe it or not the vast majority of the world is straight and is perfectly comfortable with their sexuality. And the guy's opinions are totally valid if you believe that each human is responsible to their society.
No it's to make sure humans continue to reproduce. Men turning into trans leads to what exactly? Nothing because to reproduce and have families, we need men and women not a bunch of sexless aliens.
20% of the world’s population, and they’re still scared that they’ll lose their culture? China is ancient and Chinese people have moved out to live around the world. Their languages and cultures are not threatened in the slightest.
@@johnsullivan8673 Yes it is. It’s threatened by a massive, crushing system of bribery and corruption and a horribly unjust dictatorship which destroys independent thought, and takes away the people’s hope for any kind of future.
China is patriarchal on the outside but pretty matriarchal inside. Men are raised to be provider and protector, but women often manage and control money of the household and boss husband around😂
@@slowonNurburgringThat’s how every traditional society is, the man leads on theory, but on a deeper level his every action is motivated by trying to appease or impress women
😂🤣 this is a regime with a track record of genocide across decades, a suppression of "gender expression" is just not an issue in comparison. But rather an sign of intensifying authoritarianism.
Btw you are not “banned” from being feminine, just not allowed to be a social media influencer sometimes. You will have stigma against you but it’s not illegal to cross dress or be gay
If we didn't have television, internet or social media, I'm pretty sure children to young adults, would not have a issues with their sex/gender.. food for thought
I agree with him. Even though extreme masculinity left world in wreck, extreme femininity will do the same. We need to accept our natural courses, I’m tired and pissed of seeing lost man degrading womanhood
For some strange reason, I agree with both of these 2 arguing points. I understand what the old man is saying...He obviously knows how to deal with life due to his big responsibilities as a male. Because in order for you to be in the military you have to be mentally strong and if you are too girly then you would probably not want to join the military. Basically, that would be another country taking their land and wiping them out as a whole. I totally get his point. The 2nd arguing point was a bit Generation Z LOL. I mean we are so free with ourselves that it's insane. I think that these people are finding themselves and we should support them. I've seen gay people join the military, but I do understand what old man is explaining. I feel like Generation X have so many traumas because I hear so many of them say "Life was tough" or "I wanted to be a better parent than my mom was" so which made this Generation how to express themselves with no apologies. We should accept people for who they are, I feel like there will be extra babies that will probably grow to be masculine.
The problem was never being masculine. Notice how you talked about the people who didn’t want to be like their parents. Clearly that means it was stuff the parents did not the traditional values like men be masculine or women be feminine. One thing I’ve learned in life is, often it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it. This works the same with what you do…
@@kingrobotnik6950 Lmao. I don't think their traumas came from that their parents weren't masculine/feminine. Likely masculine father in family beat their children so badly that children see masculine man stereotype with violence on those they 'love'. They want to oppose their parent's ideas because they don't see violence in people they love as option. Like, who in right mind as masculine man would say: "I want to grow and have a family and beat my child to bloody submission! I feel like a man!" If you want to be masculine / feminine, do it right lol.
I think it's only a matter of time b4 they start. It's already started in my country - Malaysia. They used to target men only but now they target women also
Society needs both insensitive an aggressive people to do some jobs, and sensitive and empathetic people to do other jobs. So every society has this split, that they call right and left. When a country is insecure, when they see enemies everywhere, then they will move to a war footing, which prioritises tough people (women too) and discourages sensitivity. Often politicians will move to a "tough guy" war footing even when there is no threat because it pulls the people behind them in a wave of nationalism. That way, they won't be kicked out of office for their mistakes and dodgy dealings. Rule of thumb: The dodgier the politician, the more likely there will be a push for a "warrior nation".
This is a clever strategy, these politicians did not directly ask boys to go to the army, to have muscles and strength. Because this is not in line with Chinese traditional values, Chinese tradition is that outstanding men may rely on high scores and then become officials. So the invasion of the United States and the invasion of Japanese and Korean culture became a suitable excuse.
@@peacefulmind1409 The law of averages says that some men will be quite feminine. They will have qualities useful to society too. Just not as warriors.
Im going to need that “Professor of sexology” to go back to school outside the PRC’s sanctioned core curriculum. Also, Taiwan will be become independent!!!
I think 'Effeminate' man has always been a part of Chinese culture. Traditionally, on one hand beauty standards towards men were in favor of man with a more 'neutral' look, but on the other hand, men like that were never idolized or admired. The public attitude towards men like that was ambivalent, they want to look like them, but they don't want to get all the sissy-man shaming. What's different nowadays is that with social media, technology, and western culture influence (gender identity, self-expression...), those small portion of people got disproportionate expose on social media and become role models of self-expression, progressiveness, and success (rich celebrity), and teenagers look up to them nowadays. I would like to see more debate on this topic as it touches on so many aspect of our society such as freedom of speech, gender expression, discrimination, social impact, etc...
It really doesn't matter if it was part of their culture hundreds of years ago. First thing, is that culture changes, but you don't like these changes, that's why you see this as bad. Secondly, China went through a program of extermination of their past culture, that ultimately failed to be completed but it did create a new cultural identity in the form of the CCRP. Chinese people nowadays do not care for their past that much, they come from communist revolutionaries, that's their core Identity right now
@@xiiir838 I do agree with the part that you said culture changes, and that's why the young generation in China are surprisingly open to gay culture for example.(though officially it's not legal for gay to get married). What I want to emphasize is the change brough by new ideas from the west and the impact of technology which gave minority disproportionate voices that ultimately lead to greater impact on the society. Something that has been part of the culture for centuries, suddenly got associated with gender identity and LGBT all that. The West hasn't figured it out yet. It's not surprising to see why China don't want this sub-culture become main stream when you saw all the nonsense happening in the West with woke culture. Secondly, it's undeniable that cultural revolution destroyed lots of historical buildings and families, but Chinese people till this day still celebrate the same festival, eat the same food, and share similar ideas as their ancestors. Claiming that they don't care for their past is just nonsense. A good (the thing itself is bad tho) example would be the unbalanced gender distribution in China because parents wanted boys not girls which it's bad but it was part of the tradition/culture. If their core identity were actually communist, none of that would've happened because gender equality was core to communism. Going back to your first point, culture does change and that's what's happening now, young parents don't follow the old generation and that's not because they are influenced by cultural revolution but rather modern ideas.
@@liangke4276 g4y is one thing. Tr4nnies is another. A g4y dude is still a dude. A lesb lass is still a lass. A tr4nny...change their gender ID. And china aint putting up with that.
I appreciate your knowledge of Chinese culture, but I also have to admit with embarrassment that in Chinese history, such people were actually objectified, a kind of tool for pleasure, and their status was very low. What scares Chinese conservatives (like me) nowadays is that young people don't see them that way, but instead idolise them and worship them with fervour. And that scares us.
Right and if you think of the media sphere as a whole. You could argue that Asia with Anime and K-dramas have more examples of “Effeminate” Men then in the west
@Black King Tell that to the soldiers in WW2 that wanted drag shows so much that there's literally an army manual on how to throw one. You follow a cherrypicked history. One might consider it more charitable to call it mythology.
I know people are going to get mad at this and try to argue with me about it, but Strangely enough this video is making me see a greater global connection hinting at things to come. The isolationist carving of National identities. The traditionalist/conservative enmeshing of countries are all images meant to prop the war effort in the future. It all strangely enough looks like this decades long foundation for a major military engagement. Maybe even a world war.
LMAO The west cannot fight any wars. Hasn't won one since WW2 save for when the entire world attacked iraq in the early 90s. . Feminism killed the west like it has so many civilizations. Female empathy runs the west and all rationality has gone out the window. Ask yourself this simple question: DO you think children should take puberty blockers? FIve years ago the answer would be HELL NO now you likely accept this as fact. Soon you will accept pedophilia. Empathy is what drives you towards this. Where is rationality? Men arent really expressing their views in the west. We are ran by girl brain. Men have completely checked out.
War isn't going anywhere. We aren't more civilized than our ancestors. If anything were the opposite and more hypocritical. Look at Pilosy going to Taiwan to talk about colonialism. Meanwhile the American Samoan islanders and Puerto Ricans still get taxed without representation. Also got drafted during WW2 and Vietnam. Hypocrisy and war hawing at it's finest
They noticed the problems in the drop of young men joining the military world wide since these gays and sissy boys have came out. If everyone loses masculinity who will protect and sacrifice for their loved ones?
I don't think it's how it will work. Someone dressing on opposite gender shouldn't stoke a world war. Wars were stoked mainly due religious indifferences and greed for land. It would be silly to say that war would break out because few pair of people are gay. Thanks to age of internet, alternative perspectives of history are helping people see hidden contexts of conflicts before it escalates. To state opinion and side with those that are being wronged.
The future needs people who contribute positively to society and crossdressing comes with various problems (although you might think they are trivial, they harm society so we should not have it)
@@Psychedelic-prepper crossdressing comes with various problems. although you might think they are trivial, they harm society, so we should not have it.
I find it odd that China considers long hair feminine when culturally the Chinese kept their hair long for centuries before western influence. Edit: Yes I know long hair is feminine, but I'm referring to a time when it was considered typical for a man unlike now.
@@gotsu7343 Which is?
@@gotsu7343 which is what???
Long hair is a western influence? I don't think so
Power is the heroin of the small-minded man
And force, force is the needle, the gun in his hand
He lusts to control all the people and the land
Complete, total destruction, his ultimate end
@@dhimankalita1690 I said the opposite, can you read?
No matter where you go in the world, it seems like there's always this paradox; Tradition is strong enough to stand the test of time by itself but is fragile enough to constantly be threatened unless propped.
Or traditions have stood the test of time because people stood guard over them and took decisions with the interest in protecting those traditions(however they deemed best). Not being Chinese so I don’t know the culture but apparently they dislike effeminate men being a societal model they want men to follow. They see it as something they want to contain before it becomes engrained in their culture like how they see it in Japanese and Korean culture.
Tradition isn't beneficial in of itself. Historically, slavery, genocide, domestic violence, child brides, etc. have all been part of the tradition of many societies. Do you think that they serve the public good just because they existed for thousands of years of recorded history (and likely long before recorded history)?
Or does it make sense to evaluate things on their own merits? How are other people, or society in general, harmed by some men being "effeminate?"
@@ENB90 - You think that that's an accurate assessment of Japanese and Korean cultures? Here's a hint: it isn't. Same deal when glam rock was popular in the U.S. in the 1970's, and when hair metal and New Wave were popular in the 80's. And the American right wing practically worship the "Founding Fathers," who wore wigs, frilly shirts, stockings, short pants to show off their calves, and makeup in some cases.
@@loki2240 💯
It's kinda rhymes with nazi rhetoric that "enemy is exceptionally strong and perpetually weak at the same time" 🤔
As soon as this video started I knew exactly what it was about. It’s about sending kids to war.
Sad reality. Peace allows people to explore new ways of being, war just forces them to survive.
It's almost like their new Billionaire class that State capitalism created want a distraction from their crooked dealings, just like American billionaires do.
One of the oldest tricks in the book: Give people an enemy so they don't see the enemy already lording over them.
@@alfonso8843 My body; my choice but from the natal male point of view. Resisting the draft/military is body autonomy as well as taking cross hormones. The emperor/President/leader wants what they want; and they need bodies to do it.
It's meant to make a certain subset of western society hate China and Chinese culture so that they will support future conflict. There is no other reason for this video.
Well China hasnt had a war in a very long time, unlike US and other countries.
"Care about people's approval, and you will always be their prisoner." - Lao Tzu
Off grid and Freedom based
@@fbyi2940yeah. Surrrrrre.😅
They looked at America and said "Oh hell no" 😂
exactly
Nothing wrong with effeminate men. It's all about freedom of expression
@@PatrickWDunne it's ok if you keep it to yourself, but it's another thing to advertise it on media so it influence so many children who should have grown up normally without such influence
The fact that the chinese call them sissy men is fkin hilarious😂😂how is this not a South Park episode😂
@@joey3291 my dude, he literally said 'expression'. Tf you mean keep it to yourself.
I don't accept the premise that supposedly effeminate men are not men. However, looking at Chinese demographics, it doesn't appear as though running out of men ought to be their main concern.
Or running out of desirable men. Population growth must maintain zero sum at minimum.
One young person working won’t be able to support 3 old people on government medical for example.
In the face of modern challenges and the complexity of the modern world, much of the world is shifting hard to the right. "Tradition," simple "solutions" etc. are appealing to a lot of people, in addition to scapegoating and bigotry just to try to make oneself feel better. It's not good for any country, or for relations between countries. Countries controlled by "strongmen" will very likely continue to lead them into war and to attack their own people, to show how "strong" they are.
Because apparently you're unaware of what social engineering is or what fourth generational warfare is
@@Anonymous-yc9fl oh go then, enlighten me.
The funny thing is a large chuck of these women love "feminine". Just look at the media and content they produce, look at how they go gaga at idols etc. China is shooting themselves in the foot. If you think these woman are going to go from loving their femboys, to uber masculine men, then your crazy.
An additional factor about these "effeminate" men is that a lot of them, specifically the singers you see on TV, are directly influenced by Korean/Japanese pop culture. Chinese audiences watch these men because they are familiar in the sense that they are Chinese whilst emulating Korean/Japanese pop culture; an example is the show "Idol Producer". Banning them will mean that Chinese audiences will probably turn away from Chinese media and to foreign media such as Korean/Japanese for this sort of content.
Considering China's relationship with Korea and Japan I don't know if that's what they want to do lmfao.
Or conversely, perhaps part of the motivation is fear that 'traditional' Chinese culture is being influenced too much? I can't help imagining the CCP leadership as a sort of Chinese-equivalent to the boomer stereotype, ranting about how much better everything was back in their day and trying to ban anything they find new and strange.
I would agree, but the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people only have access to what the CCP allows them to.
So while some people will turn more away from CCP media, most won't.
I think ultimately it will have the intended outcome of trying to further divide the Chinese people from their neighbors. Which the CCP obviously wants since part of its image as a world power is being aggressive towards it's neighbors.
@@lordlee6473 Oh gurl please: DO get over yourself....
They'll still patronize their own Chinese media.
Korea/Japan are occupied by the U.S., these people have deliberately been sissified to not challenge US hegemony in the region. CIA plot turned Japan, which was once a country of alpha male warriors, into sissy cartoon jerk offs. Sad but true.
I think what this short documentary completely fails to address is that there is no one traditional chinese masculinity, but rather more nuanced roles. Especially in imperial China there were a lot of good associations with idealised more feminine men, who tend to be better educated in the liberal arts such as poetry as opposed to typical military leader type men
That's curious. In the west poetry is not exactly associated with a feminine role.
Even the generals get romanticized with being poets and being generally "learned", even if they weren't in reality. Just a completely different view
it's the winners that write history...
Not all true. Warriors in ancient China who were well versed in poetry weren’t regarded as feminine. IT was seen as an attractive trait. “A man that is strong, able to provide for his family/people while also being good in a more subtle thing such as poetry?” Thats attractive
Does that mean Chinese men should be effeminated? no!!
The problem is associating "fighting spirit" as an inately masculine quality. Inner strength is not masculine or feminine, it goes much deeper than that. "Strength" and bravery are not measured by a short haircut, big muscles or beard.
It may be more so linked to how much soy sauce one consumes in a day.
They do, however, certainly help. Look at how much the strongest woman in the world (whom has trained and lifted and built strength her whole life" can lift versus how much the strongest man can lift. It's a biological issue not an opinion or hopeful wishes issue.
But in one way, the sex difference is stark: Men are physically stronger than women, on average. A study in the Journal of Applied Physiology found that men had an average of 26 lbs. (12 kilograms) more skeletal muscle mass than women. Women also exhibited about 40 percent less upper-body strength and 33 percent less lower-body strength, on average, the study found.
The researchers found that height and weight differences between men and women could explain only about half of the difference in strength. Researchers reporting in 1993 in the European Journal of Applied Physiology(opens in new tab) found that men's brawn could also be attributed to a larger cross-section in individual muscle fibers. [5 Myths About Women's Bodies]
And a 2006 study in the same journal revealed that men had much stronger grips than women - the difference was so big that 90 percent of the women scored lower than 95 percent of the men. The team also looked at highly trained female athletes who excelled at sports requiring a strong grip, such as judo or handball. Though these women did have a stronger grip compared with other women, they still performed worse than 75 percent of the men on this task.
In general, men are also faster than women. The fastest woman in the world, Florence Griffith Joyner, ran the 100-meter dash in just 10.49 seconds in 1988, and that record remains unbroken. Yet her fastest time wouldn't have even qualified her for the men's 2016 Olympic competition, which requires competitors to finish the 100-meter sprint in 10.16 seconds or less.
www.livescience.com/52998-women-combat-gender-differences.html
You must be weak. Only a weak person would say that. Or someone who is clearly delusional.
Nice idealistic rant. But reality paints a different picture
I swear both the US and china are regressing just in completely different ways...
Not really. Only China is going archaic
By getting rid of weak and useless men, China in your definition is regressing? This speaks a lot about your priorities lmao.
This is never about woman/man, it's about freedom in GOD's realm, not the religion one
They are not, they are moving forward your brain is left in the past.
The US regressing isn't as bad as China. Unlike China we have (50) States with the people having the right to vote and decide what we want for our people in specific areas. It may seem bad, but it's a whole lot better than a 1 child policy, under 1 rule, and censorship. We take for granted what others wish they have. In China's case their 1 child policy made too many men with no idea of what lie ahead.
This the result of the One Child Policy which became the One Son Policy.
Honestly seems very plausible. Crazy how the disastrous impact of the One Child Policy is still being felt to this day
No brides for that one son = national demographic death.
That part. Straight men in China have problems finding wives/girlfriends.
@@majestic._ yea there are literally 20 MILLION more men than women in China now. It’s pretty crazy.
30 million men will never have a woman in china.
The irony here is that nothing comes off as more gay than men who obsess over other men's manliness.
cope harder
I think that's called masculinity?
True
Nothing more pathetic than woman who forces men to be chad and masculine.
Men have a right to be no matter how he wants to be
@@le_nonexistent8528That's not called masculinity. Obsessing over others tell more about your insecurity. Being masculine means having testosterone. Not forcing people to behave in a certain way. With masculinity you need tolerance for others.
@@anonymous-3695happy pride,Diva! 💅 🏳️🌈
In Ancient China, everyone has long hair… as a sign of respect for their ancestor/parents, what’s the big deal making guys have short hair cuts? It’s just one way for the government to enforce control…
if you think xinpings regime genuinely cares about old china then youre mistaken lol
@TrippyStorm
I don't agree with most of what China does, but this is a good thing for China and the world needs to follow. Go back to when effeminate men were very rare and same sex marriage was illegal 🙏🏾📖🙏🏻
Damn you Obama for legalizing same sex marriage ❗
@@whateverwhatever4026 no but they didn't need to put on makeup and try to expose our children to their lunacy.
@@Khabasalainganba exactly
@@Khabasalainganba 1. Its what girls want. The entire Idol culture revolves around the idea of the ideal wants of each gender. If a guys wants girls to be Tomboyish, it would revolve around that and vice versa for girls.
2. Standards of masculinity is so broad that saying that one thing is masculine or feminine is impossible. For instance: Pink was once used by men as a status symbol. Now its associated as a symbol for women.
3. Their standards of fashion of masculine basically equivalents to "Being a 50 year old dad from the 1950s"
First, they came for the twinks 😔
😂
🤣🙄
Then, they came for the femboys 💔
They started with Uyghurs
So the Republican party, uh, I mean the Communist Chinese Party, that hates freedom, has outlawed men dressing like women. Hmmm...
Ironically, getting your hair cut was considered something disrespectful to your family back then in China, cause they believed that your body is your parents's property,even if you're grown up, and you can't just destroy your parents's property.
And we can see how that tradition is portrayed in chinese series and donghuas, so why take a ideal of masculinity that is more related to a western tradition if it's the Western that needed to be fought?
The hairstyles you see of 'martial' historical Chinese men are distinct from a subset of modern hairstyles that would be labelled as 'not masculine'. But yes, overall, it is astounding and perhaps even appalling how much the entire world has assimilated to western culture as a result of western hegemony for the past 200 years.
Because they want to be like the West as most everyone does
This isnt the china of back then.
They don't really care about tradition anymore, they're moulding their image.
Lol not true
the amount of comments from Americans who are supporting china banning freedoms is disturbing
That’s the right for you
they'll hate on it tomorrow don't worry
No, we're just sick and tired of seeing degenerates everywhere we go.
Toxic masculinity 💀
Youre right, we need more these are rookie numbers
literally this whole thing is nothing but a reverse pissing contest.
I know right? im like wtf right now. I thought they encouraged it.
I guess thats what it feels like to be in china....
WOW.
How Hebrew of you to say.
Like their vacuuming up the piss and competing with who can suck up the most?
This is never about woman/man, it's about freedom in GOD's realm, not the religion one
protecting your nation from the homosexual agenda isn't a pissing context you are ignorant or world politics and how USA users propaganda.
one thing about the Chinese government.. they really will do whatever they want
Hence why my Chinese associates call them a Warlord Council or a Council of Warlords.
"Is it really any better off to have the Chinese Communist Party if everyone in it behaves no differently than if we ruled over by these hedonistic Warlords of a century ago?" - Chinese Woman and Associate of mine who wishes to remain Anonymous.
True
like every major government in the world? 😂
no. but they COMMIT.
I think it is kind of loosing control of their people
Regarding the old man who appears @3:30 saying Korean men are sissies. He must think everyone looks and acts like BTS. In reality, all Korean men have to serve in the military. Sports and martial arts are huge. Korean Zombie, Choi Doo Ho, Chu Sung Hoon, Son Heung Min, and on and on. Also, the old man doesn't realize that his "we need more men" philosophy is probably at least part of the problem in China.... China already has too many dudes and not enough women. So dont be surprised when some of the dudes start acting like women.
Also, funny how he thinks all American movies are blow em up shoot em up. Ever heard of Brokeback Mountain?
It really is funny to compare this to the rhetoric of American social conservatives. They say the same thing the old man is saying, but about America....
Thought the one office worker guy had a good point about the law being to vague. Also reminds me of how vague "woke" is in the US....
@keyboardemperor1112 it is indeed. It also has gold, silver, and a bad ass eagle.
@keyboardemperor1112 thank you! Appreciate it.
你没有抓住问题的关键，问题是美国向未成年人宣传LGBT是好的东西。本来中国人没有歧视性少数群体，但是那些人好像自己是受害者一样，到处抨击异性恋，说同性恋才是真爱，好像想要全世界都知道他们是同性恋。真正的性少数群体只想好好过自己的生活。那些拿着彩虹旗到处游行的人，是真正搞乱这个国家。我们不是讨厌长相清秀的人，而是讨厌使用矫揉做作的腔调来博取大家眼球的人
Men being themselves and expressing their style is now banned. Fucking ridiculous
I hate it too, but the ban isn’t that big tbh. If you check out any Chinese show right now, the actors are all wearing makeup and lip tints. It’s vague and the enforced in weird ways (dyed hair is banned, but guys still appear on national tv with dyed brown or blonde hair). On social media, there’s a biggg gay community, but people use slang and other words for hashtags sadly :(
Yeah, it's just misandry, sexism toward men
They are not being themselves, these idol are industry plants and have to act according to the producer. There target audience are mostly teen girls so they have to maintain friendly, cute image. These artist off stage are pretty macho.
@@slowonNurburgring Not all of them are idols you wacko. Just boys who like cute stuff and wanna live. Nothing wrong with the idols either just doing their job
@@susuyay you believe everything you see on media, you r naive
That's how life is - some men are tough and some are not. Its the same with women - some like wearing pretty frocks but others like wearing trousers and climbing trees. We should not interfere with nature.
Their is nothing natural about their behavior your comment contradicts itself
@@Anonymous-yc9fl who are you to define natural, all culture is made and changed
by humans
@@Anonymous-yc9fl pretty sure they exist in nature therefore they’re “natural”. maybe look up the definition of a word before you use it to spread your bigotry? 🤷♂️
Being transexual is not natural
@Anonymous your ignorance and weird religious morals are actually unnatural bye
It's all fun and games until the fedora guy tells you to go back to the factory.
He needs to calm down and worry about himself.
@@colico14 he ain't lying to be honest
Truth is nobody actually wants to be Gay
To whoever makes the background music on Vices videos... great job. I always find myself liking it alot.
@Black King based on what? Your own speculation? A gun is gonna kill another soldier whether it's wielded by a bodybuilder or a "feminine man."
@Black King I don't understand the rigidity of that mindset. Look at an individuals psychology, skillset, work ethic, political compass, etc. It's all on a spectrum so why would sexuality be any different? Maybe you're just very close minded so you'll never see the intricacies of human beings clearly, or maybe you're smart enough and you'll ponder this comment
@Black King How is it wrong to have long hair or how does even suggest weakness ? same could be said about skirts or makeup. Lot of warriors wore something similar to skirts back in the day.
A shortage of woman in China may be a leading cause of this
Do we have a shortage of female in the west? Why we have more sissies here? Russia has more women than men too and Russian men ain’t become no sissies
There's a profound irony to the comments in here by people with car/trucks/flowers, the same going "BUT MAH FREDOMZ" now saying "good work" at an authoritatian one-party state for banning yet another form of individual expression.
There's a profound irony in a comment by somebody talking about individual expression and freedom generalizing about everybody that make the same one word comment!
exactly, the hypocrisy is astounding
@@SaneAsylum What, and who, are you defending here, exactly?
I don't agree with most of what China does, but this is a good thing for China and the world needs to follow. Go back to when effeminate men were very rare and same sex marriage was illegal 🙏🏾📖🙏🏻
@@Keepskatin freedom of religion also includes freedom from religion.
P.S. My God told me that you are wrong.
That dude with the hat ain’t having it with these “ sisssy men” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As he should
And to think that he actually said that by being effeminate, men lose their "rebellious spirit".
It seems to me that being an effeminate man in a world that hates gender non-conformity is one of the most rebellious things a man can do!
He’s concerned about having a strong military nothing else.
I do not blame him
He's had it up to here with it 😂
i have read this phrase somewhere in the past: "...masculinity is hard to earn, easy to loose..."
Shut up incel
Exactly
wait let me read a phrase I red somewhere. “” lemme find a Fck””
China has a subtle traditional philosophy of governance where leaders do not rigidly enforce every regulation without any room for flexibility. Instead, they leave some gray areas for people or matters that may not align perfectly with the mainstream values of the country to exist. While these regulations may be strict when initially released, they tend to relax significantly after a certain period of time.
Men must be strong and ready to fight for the country. Sissy men are wrong
That's what the founding fathers of USA intended, they wrote about it a bit. It obviously didn't go that direction.
Yes we call that authoritarianism. Hardly subtle or unique. Making everything illegal and then selectively prosecuting things to target specific groups and individuals at specific times
it is not intended to be loosely enforced but rather impossible to enforce. the vast geography of china leads to inevitable variation with local rulers often having more power than national leaders. this also leads to corruption as well.
china is already short and their eyes are kind of effeminate so having femboys on tv is only gonna make it worse
The best thing Peng can do for masculinity would be to stop worrying about what other guys are wearing. Sounds kinda sissy of Peng ngl
That's not how you solve problems in society.
@@basedblackbeard4456 you don't solve problems by creating ficticious ones that don't truly affect anything
@@2bad610 population growth at minimum must be zero just to maintain society. One young person working won’t be able to support 3 old people on government medical for example. The Japanese’s lead the world in automation because of this and they are literally dying.
@f3mcell no thanks
This is never about woman/man, it's about freedom in GOD's realm, not the religion one++++
"We have to preserve this unique Chinese culture"
-says wearing a fedora, a hat originating from france
France has won more battles and wars than any other country in history
Even France would disagree with his words
@@fbyi2940which france? The france or frankistan?
equality for men!!!
Yeah, men have always had it so rough 🤨😂
We didn't make you obsolete. You did it to yourselves.
@@Jessica-gy6kr terf?
@@Jessica-gy6kr They'll never learn
@@Jessica-gy6kr men are obsolete? Lol. Literally, men are so good we can pretend to be women and get more attention than you. Stfu.
These are not "effeminate men". These are men dressing as women.
tomato tomahto?
This is not a comment. This is a series of words made in response to your series of words.
Essentially… rules and regulations to ensure an endless supply of mindless soldiers and factory workers.
They already have that, they have 1.4 BILLION people. The US only has like 300 million people. If it's one thing China is not short on it's people.
Yup. That's their goal.
They want to be the only dominant power in the world. And they need a lot of bodies to do it
Yup and call it the “fighting spirit”!
That isn't necessarily masculine though. The 'Rebellious spirit' is actually not what you'd want if you need mindless workers. So in your paradigm they'd actually not want to push masculinity too far.
men should be men
Conservatives, masculinity, patriotism, and war. What a combo.
A communist fedora who says the sissy men is a product of the United States to control the world.😂
The combo that withstood the test of time 😅
@@ShitBagSPC The winning combo immemorial. Rome learned the hard way like we are about to
You just described Communism. Yeah, Cmmunist weren't modern Starbucks progressives
Only weak and effeminate men complain about those things
Great video, vice! I like the coverage of multiple perspectives in this video.
no way you gave creds to fkn vice
@@Coilzz it’s sooo cool to hate Vice but you’re here watching, commenting, absorbing knowledge and having options. Grow up.
Shame Vice can't do that on countless other topics they cover.
This whole policy is dystopian. Suppressing peoples' identities won't change them. It will just make them dysfunctional people.
@Black King ohh you just showed your third world mindset.
One can be feminine and still be strong, your mind is the weak one.
I am Chinese, and I would like to explain from another angle why Chinese people, especially traditional Chinese people, are worried about such things. China is a nation of history and we have great respect for history books. But according to Chinese history books, when men wear women's clothes and behave in an increasingly feminine way, it is a precursor to the imminent collapse of the dynasty. There are plenty of such accounts and arguments in the history books.
““末喜冠男子之冠，桀亡天下。”“男女之别，国之大节，故服物异等，赞币不同”，“遍身女衣者，尽是读书人”，“男穿女衣，亡国之兆”……”"When Muxi crowned a man's crown, Jie died in the world." "The difference between men and women, the country's great festival, so the clothes should be different "All gentelmen in academia are wearing women's clothes! cry !," "Men wearing women's clothes, the omen of the collapse of the country" ......I don't care if this argument is valid or not, but it does have a profound impact on the Chinese psyche. Chatting about it.
I remember about 30 years ago, when I first went to university and came to Beijing, one of the most open-minded city in China at that time, I saw a man dressed a bit like a woman. Several of my classmates from conservative rural provinces commented that if this man had turned up in our area, he would have been disabled by now because everyone would have beaten him up. I was feeling a bit shocked, and while I don't like males who dress like that either, it's not like I would beat them to disability. I mention this to illustrate two points, firstly, there is a fair degree of resistance to the feminisation of males in our nation, and secondly, after all, society is evolving, and now of course traditionalists will still be offended, but wherever they are, at least they won't be beaten up.
Honestly, for myself and most of the older Chinese around me, especially men, we have been complaining about this for a long time. We are afraid of it and we cannot do anything about it. When the CCP decided to take measures to control the situation, everyone was very supportive and said: this is long overdue!
Thank you Learned gentleman
This comment section makes me feel a mix of terror and hopelessness beyond my own comprehension
Ikr 😢
Sounds like something right wing media would totally be on board with, instead of worrying about a small minority of people maybe they should live their own lifes and stop trying to control other peoples lives.
You fruitcakes force your abominable habits upon us natural order folk, now it's too far and we want blood if it leads to it.
Yet the minority of people are trying to dictate other people’s children, hijack an entire language and demanding convenience at the expense of others, literally what a parasite would do.
Or have the guts to confront the people that are really the problem. That might require being manly tho
The professor is right on that Korean and Japanese pop culture is definitely more feminine than North American and European depictions of men
Except French and Dutch.
But, they're still men. Feminine or not they're still men. I understand people feeling iffy about trans people, but feminine/masculine in any gender is a problem?
Grow up. I'm surprised people are born this uncultured.
Good for China caring about the future of their country.
Respect to china for this, western countries are degrading fast. Emasculation of men is a true problem.
Easy times lead to weak men, weak men leads to hard times, hard times lead to hard men.
Pretty sure it was the "hard men" who started WWII.
@@leifanderson3487 treaty of versailles started WWII
Germany shouldve never been blamed for WWII and forced into economical ruins because of reparations
I'm all for the banning effeminate men. Too bad we don't do that here in America.
Quiet unmanly of you to care about another man closet
As a conservative, I completely agree with CCP with that move. Morals of a nation should be protected.
What morals though? When did effeminate men threaten a countries morals? The country must be based on very unstable foundation if effeminate men are a threat to its morals. And gay men nor trans ppl haven’t been allowed survive long enough to enrich a nations culture.
Our nations are recessing backwards… next we will accept slavery.
It's crazy because we can just replace "China" with "Repubicans" and the whole video still makes sense.
Really enjoying recent vice content but it all needs to be organized a bit better in playlists as series?
There has always been feminine men throughout societies, easier times just make them more visible nothing wrong with them leave them be.
"nothing wrong with" thats your subjective opinion. In islamic culture that is considered offense and often punished by death sentece (in saudi arabia for example)
But the Republican party, uh, I mean the Communist Chinese Party, that hates freedom, has outlawed men dressing like women. Hmmm...
@@trader2137 as it should be Saudi Arabia is such a W
@@filthycasual8074 why should they kill people for literally living how they like?
“Easier times just make them more visible” that’s literally the problem. These people are privileged and lucky they don’t go through any hardships in their life. They’ve never had to utilize their ‘masculinity’ because they live in a world where nearly everything is given to them on a silver platter. They don’t hunt, they don’t work, they don’t live in neighborhoods where people will beat them to the curb for looking like that. These people take advantage of their privilege, thinking they have the right to be a degenerate. Was being ‘normal’ really too much to ask for these people? Despite having all this luxury? They are not only ungrateful, but they are also unwise.
China knows what it needs to defend itself..
@@gabidobre5584 China has not been at war for the past 40 years. the United states, on the other hand....
@@joshzhang7041 United States have been in war with itself since establishment.
I like how all the movies the guy lists are 20+ years old lol
John wick, top gun maverick, avengers, mission impossible, avatar, Batman
@@chatter4427 avengers is pretty gay
Not in a homophobic way, it just is
They’re Asian, they’re all feminine
Cuz those are the famous ones lol, most Chinese people don't keep up with the latest American movies
Control, manipulation, and propaganda it all leads people to ignorance. And ignorance is easy to rule over and to ultimately control.
Like the woke left right?
Yeah just like mommy and daddy taught you
@@JohnJohn-bz1lq how is the “woke left” controlling you? Genuinely wondering
@zamboniclean nah just like normal people who are educated taught themselves.
This is never about woman/man, it's about freedom in GOD's realm, not the religion one.......
100% there will be endless unironic endorsement from people living in the West of this dystopian overreach into peoples lives.
Wouldn't have happened if these people didn't invade our privacy by using their social media in the first place. Wouldn't have happened if these people didn't try to expose our children to their sissy behavior.
@@Khabasalainganba lol, you’re the responsible party if you have children to ensure they watch acceptable content. I imagine this is when you’ll go into a litany of occurrences when in every facet of life sissy trans or drag queens came up to your family and shoved their views down you and your family throats, give me a break. You’re looking for a target and voila!
@@Khabasalainganba how are people invading YOUR privacy when they use THEIR social media? You’re responsible for the content you watch on there or if you’re on there at all. It’s amazing to see somebody go full throttle into total unabashed helpless victim hood
@@Lhwbakao I didn't search for their contents. They popped up. We can't control what pops up on our feed. So when our children use social media platforms for productive use they are also exposed to such degrading contents. Abnormalities should be treated as Abnormalities rather than trying to impose them upon us.
@@Khabasalainganba Or you don't let your kids have unrestricted access to the internet. That's much more likely to succeed than policing people's behavior, which has never worked in human history.
Again the question comes up, why are you going on websites that will show you gay porn if that's so offensive to you? Mind your own business or people are going to be digging into the fact that you keep watching gay porn over and over again, as admitted by yourself.
I support Chinese ban
so basically, it's about the military?
China took the I’ll Make a Man Out of You song too seriously
*@*Nate Reynolds** Too brilliant: i love it 😁💖💖...!!
A small subset of a society acts this way in society and all of society gets scared when it is brought to their attention. 😅
And as a woman. Im paranoid right now there's recently a strong anti lgbtq movement in my country yet the community is significantly lower and patriachy is strong in Africa. I believe this sizzling anti lgbtq situation is only because they reminisce of the past where men had any and everything. Once they(may god forbid) oppress the lgbtq community even more, women are next in line. I hate watching this😑
@@A_T_E_R_R_Y you're brainwashed
@@A_T_E_R_R_Y what part of Africa are you in?
Do you know how a virus spreads?
@@A_T_E_R_R_Y You should probably be more concerned with China moving into Africa to use you in the next world war but hey, sissy men is what's important. 😂
Hasn't the concept of a man being feminine been deeply ingrained in Chinese culture? The Peking Opera (京劇 - Jingju) serves as a notable example with men often portraying female roles, kinda paradox.
No, please don't conflate different behaviors. The female roles played by men do not prove that feminity in men is accepted
People who play nazis in movies mean nazism is accepted..
@@iac92 correct. Ancient greek theatre also had female roles played by men yet being submissive or sissy as a man was more than enough to get you purged from society
Lots of men are effeminate. And the ones who get all twisted about it are often the most effeminate.
4:17 Old dude dressed for golf has opinions on kids doing their thing.
It’s strange how he’s so concerned with masculinity being wiped out. The fact that some insecure men are so virulently resistant to the existence of more feminine men PROVES there’s so such thing of “masculine men being wiped out”.
He's talking about needing men to go to war, yet he was a professor of sexology. When I think of a masculine hardened soldier, yup professor of sexology is the first that comes to mind. I guess as a teacher he believe's people are taught to be who they are, meaning he also believe's he had no choice in how 'masculine' he is, because he was taught the traditional way to be a man.
@f3mcell is that supposed to be a dig?😭 cmon now out of all the insults you can say to us, THIS is what you have?😭💀
@@JacobSnover Do you think 'sexually liberated' people somehow own the field of sexuality? Scholarship into one of the fundamental parts of the human psyche isn't 'effeminate,' its just knowledge for a purpose. Believe it or not the vast majority of the world is straight and is perfectly comfortable with their sexuality. And the guy's opinions are totally valid if you believe that each human is responsible to their society.
@@OR1000N loser
With the way things have gone in the West lately, I don't think China's response is a complete overreaction.
Do you think what they’re doing in china will work? And do you think the west should also copy china and ban “effeminate” men?
“Gender studies expert”..
Translation: professor of insanity or honestly just a professional insane person.
strong men build strong nations
Strength is a psychological defense against the fear of the human condition: vulnerable, dependent and mortal.
@@Rnankn Human Condition aka the masses. Who will lead the herd against forceful threats? Not sissy men, I can tell you that.
You mean a country that is falling apart?.....
Ok the main objective is to subdue the emotions and expression in order to make good robot like humans for war.
No it's to make sure humans continue to reproduce. Men turning into trans leads to what exactly? Nothing because to reproduce and have families, we need men and women not a bunch of sexless aliens.
Yup
Wrong. That is part of it ill admit.
No that's not true. They simply do not want men with feminine energy and personalities fighting their wars.
@@loveisthemostpowerfulforce1397 "
Thats not true"
*Phrases it differently*
20% of the world’s population, and they’re still scared that they’ll lose their culture? China is ancient and Chinese people have moved out to live around the world. Their languages and cultures are not threatened in the slightest.
But their nation is threatened.
@@johnsullivan8673 Yes it is. It’s threatened by a massive, crushing system of bribery and corruption and a horribly unjust dictatorship which destroys independent thought, and takes away the people’s hope for any kind of future.
They feel threatened to men who dress as women.
They would be scared their nation would consist less than 55% of men. 🤣🤣🤣
Everybody once thought that American culture will survive.
But now look at the trans epidemic
Beware of toxic feminism.
If this is not foreshadowing, then I don't know what is.
Literally
So basically China is going through their redpill phase 😂
China is patriarchal on the outside but pretty matriarchal inside. Men are raised to be provider and protector, but women often manage and control money of the household and boss husband around😂
yes but is not helping them child birth rate is low
@@MarcosSantos-dj6lkWestoid try not to believe another china lies (impossible)
@@slowonNurburgring that's not true
@@slowonNurburgringThat’s how every traditional society is, the man leads on theory, but on a deeper level his every action is motivated by trying to appease or impress women
Meanwhile US kids confused with their gender 😂😂😂
😂🤣 this is a regime with a track record of genocide across decades, a suppression of "gender expression" is just not an issue in comparison. But rather an sign of intensifying authoritarianism.
what genocide?
Mao zedong
Well you can’t change your chromosomes, so I think it’s less of authoritarianism and more like pushing for a society of realists.
@@Asp47999it has nothing to do with chromosomes. “Realists” don’t suppress natural parts of their personality and expression. It’s just control.
Btw you are not “banned” from being feminine, just not allowed to be a social media influencer sometimes. You will have stigma against you but it’s not illegal to cross dress or be gay
you forgot the "yet"
@@moneyobsessedyeah this is China we’re talking about who basically legally enforced birth control on all its citizens.
Feels like a lot of red states aren't far off from this.
China is a left wing government!!😂😂😂😂
I wish
Hopefully we can get rid of the lgbt cultural cancer from the United States
"If it doesn't break my leg, if it doesn't pick my pocket, what is it to me?"
- Thomas Jefferson
If we didn't have television, internet or social media, I'm pretty sure children to young adults, would not have a issues with their sex/gender.. food for thought
agree
I don't agree. Chemicals in food and products in general are the main cause for gender dysphoria.
U probably havent read history
I agree with him. Even though extreme masculinity left world in wreck, extreme femininity will do the same. We need to accept our natural courses, I’m tired and pissed of seeing lost man degrading womanhood
Very good
For some strange reason, I agree with both of these 2 arguing points. I understand what the old man is saying...He obviously knows how to deal with life due to his big responsibilities as a male. Because in order for you to be in the military you have to be mentally strong and if you are too girly then you would probably not want to join the military. Basically, that would be another country taking their land and wiping them out as a whole. I totally get his point.
The 2nd arguing point was a bit Generation Z LOL. I mean we are so free with ourselves that it's insane. I think that these people are finding themselves and we should support them. I've seen gay people join the military, but I do understand what old man is explaining. I feel like Generation X have so many traumas because I hear so many of them say "Life was tough" or "I wanted to be a better parent than my mom was" so which made this Generation how to express themselves with no apologies. We should accept people for who they are, I feel like there will be extra babies that will probably grow to be masculine.
The problem was never being masculine. Notice how you talked about the people who didn’t want to be like their parents. Clearly that means it was stuff the parents did not the traditional values like men be masculine or women be feminine. One thing I’ve learned in life is, often it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it. This works the same with what you do…
@@kingrobotnik6950 Lmao. I don't think their traumas came from that their parents weren't masculine/feminine. Likely masculine father in family beat their children so badly that children see masculine man stereotype with violence on those they 'love'. They want to oppose their parent's ideas because they don't see violence in people they love as option.
Like, who in right mind as masculine man would say: "I want to grow and have a family and beat my child to bloody submission! I feel like a man!"
If you want to be masculine / feminine, do it right lol.
The Chinese dude must not be hip to what's really happening here in the US
Pretty sad that Republicans they think a commie policy is a good idea.
Ikr? Fucking saving private ryan?? 😮💨😮💨
@@coda-n6u Red Pill mentality is absolutely attacked here too, they were acting like rugged men are totally acceptable here 😂.
I was so confused when he said that our media doesn’t promote sissy men 😂
@@hoff9854 same here 😂. Clearly they have no clue what they are talking about. I'm sure the media there is lying to them also
Thank god someone is finally doing it.
Nah, it's always been banned in Arab countries so it's been done for centuries now and it's been working out fine in West Asia.
I totally agree with China. Let common sense return back to human life.
Why do they think feminism means being scared, having fears,being weak?
Duhh you think maybe because males are supposed to be masculine and have masculine traits?
I guess people can’t be themselves in this day and age.
Edit:👇 I guess the replies are triggered now by my comment.
be yourself and express at home. in public, stay unified and respectful of others
They can if they move away from China into the free world.
Then they'll complain about how the free should be more like China.
🤷
@@sharkl11 right, we don't want our children to be exposed to such abominations.
@sharkl11 and don't you dare smile or show any emotions!🤣🤣🤣🙄
its their culture and you should respect it. the Chinese dont tell western people not to wear blue hair, so you should not tell them how to live too.
Just curious...So do they also ban Tomboy/Manly girl influencers to be fair ?
No
I think it's only a matter of time b4 they start. It's already started in my country - Malaysia. They used to target men only but now they target women also
Society needs both insensitive an aggressive people to do some jobs, and sensitive and empathetic people to do other jobs. So every society has this split, that they call right and left. When a country is insecure, when they see enemies everywhere, then they will move to a war footing, which prioritises tough people (women too) and discourages sensitivity.
Often politicians will move to a "tough guy" war footing even when there is no threat because it pulls the people behind them in a wave of nationalism. That way, they won't be kicked out of office for their mistakes and dodgy dealings. Rule of thumb: The dodgier the politician, the more likely there will be a push for a "warrior nation".
This comment is underrated 💯
This is a clever strategy, these politicians did not directly ask boys to go to the army, to have muscles and strength. Because this is not in line with Chinese traditional values, Chinese tradition is that outstanding men may rely on high scores and then become officials. So the invasion of the United States and the invasion of Japanese and Korean culture became a suitable excuse.
That's the problem since none knows what's correct or wrong.
Being sensitive does not mean being effeminate, a real masculine men can also become sensitive when he needs to.
@@peacefulmind1409 The law of averages says that some men will be quite feminine. They will have qualities useful to society too. Just not as warriors.
Can't blame them.
Trust me when I say the people speaking loudest against them, would absolutely pipe a sissy.
We don't need no sissy in our armys it's a huge distraction
@@mauricelee2010 lol
Yknow, honestly if he has enough makeup on to be a female and acts that way, I'd get in the back
Tayt is clearly a bot
@@jaysonoweh2227 🦾🤖
Im going to need that “Professor of sexology” to go back to school outside the PRC’s sanctioned core curriculum. Also, Taiwan will be become independent!!!
Amen, amen, amen! Say it again, mate!
Ehh I think you mean Hong Kong
we are already independent my friend 😝Its just the international community aren't able to recognize that cuz of mainland china's influence
your argument is one form of indoctrination is better than another? i don't think they'll buy it. remember, it's a union-run country.
Taiwan is LGBT's HEAVEN😂😂😂😂😂
I think 'Effeminate' man has always been a part of Chinese culture. Traditionally, on one hand beauty standards towards men were in favor of man with a more 'neutral' look, but on the other hand, men like that were never idolized or admired. The public attitude towards men like that was ambivalent, they want to look like them, but they don't want to get all the sissy-man shaming. What's different nowadays is that with social media, technology, and western culture influence (gender identity, self-expression...), those small portion of people got disproportionate expose on social media and become role models of self-expression, progressiveness, and success (rich celebrity), and teenagers look up to them nowadays. I would like to see more debate on this topic as it touches on so many aspect of our society such as freedom of speech, gender expression, discrimination, social impact, etc...
It really doesn't matter if it was part of their culture hundreds of years ago.
First thing, is that culture changes, but you don't like these changes, that's why you see this as bad.
Secondly, China went through a program of extermination of their past culture, that ultimately failed to be completed but it did create a new cultural identity in the form of the CCRP. Chinese people nowadays do not care for their past that much, they come from communist revolutionaries, that's their core Identity right now
@@xiiir838 I do agree with the part that you said culture changes, and that's why the young generation in China are surprisingly open to gay culture for example.(though officially it's not legal for gay to get married). What I want to emphasize is the change brough by new ideas from the west and the impact of technology which gave minority disproportionate voices that ultimately lead to greater impact on the society. Something that has been part of the culture for centuries, suddenly got associated with gender identity and LGBT all that. The West hasn't figured it out yet. It's not surprising to see why China don't want this sub-culture become main stream when you saw all the nonsense happening in the West with woke culture.
Secondly, it's undeniable that cultural revolution destroyed lots of historical buildings and families, but Chinese people till this day still celebrate the same festival, eat the same food, and share similar ideas as their ancestors. Claiming that they don't care for their past is just nonsense. A good (the thing itself is bad tho) example would be the unbalanced gender distribution in China because parents wanted boys not girls which it's bad but it was part of the tradition/culture. If their core identity were actually communist, none of that would've happened because gender equality was core to communism. Going back to your first point, culture does change and that's what's happening now, young parents don't follow the old generation and that's not because they are influenced by cultural revolution but rather modern ideas.
@@liangke4276 g4y is one thing. Tr4nnies is another.
A g4y dude is still a dude.
A lesb lass is still a lass.
A tr4nny...change their gender ID.
And china aint putting up with that.
china is already short and their eyes are kind of effeminate so having femboys on tv is only gonna make it worse
I appreciate your knowledge of Chinese culture, but I also have to admit with embarrassment that in Chinese history, such people were actually objectified, a kind of tool for pleasure, and their status was very low.
What scares Chinese conservatives (like me) nowadays is that young people don't see them that way, but instead idolise them and worship them with fervour. And that scares us.
I personally support China on this policy, though I otherwise wouldn't.
That’s right decision , men should be like men, women should be like women.
How do you ban a personality trait?
Wait and see
You inject them with a tiny piece of lead that travels really fast
@@joifashion8355 wait for what? Tell us, little boy.
@@ocularpatdown Ban from the media so other kids don't imitate them just because they're popular
This is why China is healthier. We should learn.
Well done china!!!
Those had to be the most dated film refrences you could possibly make. The man @ 5:17 would be shocked if he saw what we put on for our country now. 😂
Forreal.
Gives big "All these movies from 1991 that we just got here yesterday are all about strong men!" vibes
Right and if you think of the media sphere as a whole. You could argue that Asia with Anime and K-dramas have more examples of “Effeminate” Men then in the west
@@jingbot1071 There's a reason I don't watch currently hollywood movies. 80s and 90s rocked. Especially the late 80s hong kong movies were best.
@Black King Tell that to the soldiers in WW2 that wanted drag shows so much that there's literally an army manual on how to throw one.
You follow a cherrypicked history. One might consider it more charitable to call it mythology.
@Black King Do you want the name of the US army manual? I can provide it for you. It's literally on the US government website, like all army manuals.
I know people are going to get mad at this and try to argue with me about it, but Strangely enough this video is making me see a greater global connection hinting at things to come. The isolationist carving of National identities. The traditionalist/conservative enmeshing of countries are all images meant to prop the war effort in the future. It all strangely enough looks like this decades long foundation for a major military engagement. Maybe even a world war.
LMAO The west cannot fight any wars. Hasn't won one since WW2 save for when the entire world attacked iraq in the early 90s. . Feminism killed the west like it has so many civilizations. Female empathy runs the west and all rationality has gone out the window.
Ask yourself this simple question: DO you think children should take puberty blockers?
FIve years ago the answer would be HELL NO now you likely accept this as fact. Soon you will accept pedophilia. Empathy is what drives you towards this. Where is rationality? Men arent really expressing their views in the west. We are ran by girl brain. Men have completely checked out.
War isn't going anywhere. We aren't more civilized than our ancestors.
If anything were the opposite and more hypocritical.
Look at Pilosy going to Taiwan to talk about colonialism.
Meanwhile the American Samoan islanders and Puerto Ricans still get taxed without representation. Also got drafted during WW2 and Vietnam.
Hypocrisy and war hawing at it's finest
They noticed the problems in the drop of young men joining the military world wide since these gays and sissy boys have came out. If everyone loses masculinity who will protect and sacrifice for their loved ones?
I don't think it's how it will work. Someone dressing on opposite gender shouldn't stoke a world war. Wars were stoked mainly due religious indifferences and greed for land. It would be silly to say that war would break out because few pair of people are gay.
Thanks to age of internet, alternative perspectives of history are helping people see hidden contexts of conflicts before it escalates. To state opinion and side with those that are being wronged.
At least China understands the importance of masculinity.
Absolutely disgusting...let people live their lifes please..
They won't let China decay like West. India will hopefully follow suit.
The future needs people who contribute positively to society and crossdressing comes with various problems (although you might think they are trivial, they harm society so we should not have it)
@@iac92 huh..????? What do you care if two people wanna be gay...as long they don't try to be gay with you mind your business..
@@Psychedelic-prepper crossdressing comes with various problems. although you might think they are trivial, they harm society, so we should not have it.
@@iac92 name the problems then???
a lot of groomers are saddened by this....
of course its the guy wearing a fedora 😏
M'lady 😂
I think he's in a basement too
Yeah the woke left made alot of striaght things gay. Even the rainbow. Happy Pride!
What is effeminate men? Even in kpop they also workout.
Respect to China 🇨🇳 and to their strong leaders. They made a good decision beforehand. 🙏
Weak men create a world host of problems.
Yeah. Every war has been started by weak men
Yep, and theres nothing weaker than government power dictating who can do, say and wear what they want bc it's on promoted culture sucks.