Locking Tuners for your Guitar - Do You Need Them? Let's Discuss the Pros & Cons...
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2023
- Installing locking tuners is one of the most requested modifications/upgrades that I see in the shop. There are many advantages to changing your tuners and very little downside, but I will highlight a few things over the course of the video. Of course, I will do a setup on this 2021 MIM Fender Telecaster at the same time. Enjoy the video!
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I wanted to buy a new guitar but figured out the one REAL difference was it had locking tuners… so I ordered some today! I’m very exited!
Did you notice the tuners were staggered and not mounted in the right order? @12:24 you need to swap 2&3 with 4&5.
Never mind, you corrected it @17:05
that means you were paying attention to the video! I got mixed up in my filming process and corrected it 😁
Lifesaver for string breakages during gigs or rehearsal. I can't really think of any downsides.
I put locking tuners on everything, it makes it so much easier, and faster to change strings. If they are Staggered like you mentioned, make sure you put the right one in the right holes. Usually there are 3 longer ones (that go in Low E - D) and 3 shorter ones (that got in the G - High E). I've made that mistake without catching it several times. No big deal, you just switch them around to be correct. Thanks for the Video! I REALLY like the Gotoh 510 Locking Tuners. Very Smooth operation.
I definitely prefer locking tuners. When I install new strings, it is so much easier.
I have the Hipshot non-staggered locking tuners with the UMP (Universal Mounting Plate), on my 2012 Squier Standard Stratocaster. With the UMP you don’t have to worry about the tuners locating pins. Plus you don’t have to make any permanent modifications to the guitar. If you one day want to sell your guitar, put the stock tuners back on and keep the Hipshots. My Squier Standard has 2 string trees. If you go with staggered tuners (Hipshot sells staggered and non-staggered) you should remove your string trees. If you don’t, (like in the video) you will have binding issues. Myself I went with the non-staggered tuners because I didn’t want 2 holes in my headstock. I think guitars with string trees already installed from the factory should get non-staggered tuners of any brand of locking tuners you decide to go with. And if you’re building a new parts guitar with no string trees get the staggered locking tuners. After I installed the Hipshots on my Squier I could tell a difference in weight. 6 ounces might not be much but when you add weight onto the very end of any guitar if feels like more. I don’t like the sharp cutoff ends on any tuners. I have a guitar with vintage style slots that you can hide the sharp string ends from poking your skin. I enjoy the videos that are posted.
You did not stagger them properly .... I've done it myself. I should wait till the video is over before commenting.
Fender is moving to all short shaft posts on a lot of their guitars lately ... Nice touch.
The weight has always been a concern. Thank you for showing that it really is a minimal amount.
It might be the case for different brands, but the Fender difference was negligible
I've got locking tuners on my SG - even without it would still have neck dive, due to the design. ;)
Necessary? By no means. But if you were already needing to upgrade your tuners (like maybe you got an old bad squire or something) it might not be a bad idea.
learning to properly string a guitar removes MOST use cases for the average home player though.
Would agree these would be convenient gigging
I’ve had locking tuners, but I much prefer the vintage style. They have their own way of locking, and if you need to remove the strings you’ll be able to put them back (not so with locking tuners). Also, unless you’re careful, it’s easy to break the high E during installation. Lastly, what is the advantage of “quick” string changes, really?
It comes in handy if you break a string at a gig, which has happened to me.... I can change a string & tune up in less than a minute....also a set of strings only lasts me 2 gigs, I play a lot of outdoor gigs in Florida so they don't last long, so a faster string change is really convenient to me
I replaced the stock tuners on my Tele clone with some Inexpensive Kluson 18:1 tuners. I don't believe that you need locking tuners on Tele's, unless you gig with the guitar, or need to change strings every two to three weeks.
I have the staggered fender locking tuners on my stratocaster. On my telecasters they came with vintage tuners so I didn't change them.
I actually prefer vintage style tuners - easy to string up just like bass tuners
@@ManotickGuitarTech yes Sir perfect design, no string poking out and easy to string
As you've got staggered tuners, have you tried removing the string tree(s) on your Strat to reduce friction? I did; break angle must be ok as I get no buzz on my Strat or Tele. :)
another pro and a con....I just replaced the stock tuners on a D'Angelico semi hollow. The tuners are stair step tuners. I replaced them with grover stair step locking tuners. They were drop ins, just like you showed with the tele. I wanted the locking tuner because the string winder would not fit on the tuning knobs. This will make it easier to change strings. The con is that during setup and intonation with locking tuners, I found that I constantly broke the high E string adjusting the bridge. I probably over tightened the locking clamp and metal fatigue gets to the thinnest string.
That is a problem with the first string
I've got locking tuners on 8 guitars, and have never had this problem. Cheap tuners often have burrs around the post holes that need to be filed/sanded smooth to avoid cutting through the unwound strings. Grover/Gotoh/Fender/PRS are all high quality.
Does the 18 grams make a difference regarding neck dive? Everything that was said at this moment was based on a difference of 1 gram, not 18.
Read the comments first to see if anyone else did NoTiCe ;)
I use Hipshot staggered locking tuners and it's only now I have noticed Fender staggered tuners come in 3 high and 3 low posts wheras my Hipshots have 2 high, 2 medium and 2 low posts. The Fenders look weird to me like a step is missing.
I have the Hipshot open back locking tuners on 2 of my guitars' when I unscrew the thumbwhell to change strings' the locking pin inside the tuner sticks.
Have you ever had that problem with your tuners?
@@BryanClark-gk6ie Mine are open back too. I'm not sure what you mean but I don't fully unscrew them for some reason. Might be what you're saying but I think it was more to do with the thumbwheel feeling too loose. Next string change I'll have to fully loosen the thumbwheel to remember what it was.
What if you want to tune down a whole step can you do it with locking tuners straight through or do you have to wrap?
I would probably wrap once around if you think you might be detuning
There are no cons (apart from being more expensive). I put them on all my guitars. I prefer the thumb screw type. I put staggered tuners on my Fenders, and remove the string trees - no buzz.
You don't need them but string changing is far quicker so all my gig guitars have them
"Locking Tuners - Do You Need Them?"
Nope !!!
Nor do I need a Floyd Rose Trim-Bridge,
Or the locking nut that accompanies one.