[LIVE] Presidential Forum with candidates Ng Kok Song, Tharman Shanmugaratnam, Tan Kin Lian
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Presidential candidates Ng Kok Song, Tharman Shanmugaratnam and Tan Kin Lian answered questions on CNA's Singapore Presidential Forum on Monday (Aug 28), the only live televised forum of the 2023 Presidential Election.
00:00 Introduction
00:32 The role of the elected President
02:31 What experience and expertise do you possess, that make you the most qualified candidate to be the President?
09:03 Beyond what the Government tells you, what factors would you consider, before using the second key to the Past Reserves?
13:56 How can you convince voters you are not politicising the Election and will exercise your powers without fear or favour?
18:37 What unique traits do you possess that will help you represent Singapore on the global stage?
26:10 What role would you play as President to build a more inclusive and compassionate society?
30:54 How do you plan to connect with young Singaporeans and involve them in writing the next chapter of the Singapore story?
35:15 Beyond your ceremonial and community roles, how do you intend to be a unifying figure for the nation?
40:05 What major challenges will Singapore face and how will you, within the powers of the President, help Singaporeans to cope?
44:52 Closing remarks: What do you want to tell voters before they go to the polls on Sep 1?
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NKS really did well in answering those questions! I am impressed by the level of intellect he has despite his age!
Before that, I know nothing about Mr. Ng K. S.. After hearing him, I'm impressed. He is very intelligent. He has very clear mind and objectives on what he would do, and I'm convinced he's capable to deliver them. I'm deciding between Mr Ng and Mr Tharman. Everybody knows Tharman, his personality, his intelligence and his pass records. I think his strengths will help lift Singapore higher in international ground. Helping Singapore to build relationships with other countries is very important and I think Tharman can do better in this compare to the others.
Tharman wont be able to make significant changes. Having been in political and policy maker with PAP for more than 2 decades, I have not seen him helping to speak for the people. He is certainly one of those who approve the GST increase to 9%. Think hard, not just the surface of things.
Sure. Enjoy eating more bugs, insects .... 🤣 to save the earth.
@@naramoon2745 maybe the moon is a better place for you to live. you can meet Chang Er. pinhead
One is overqualified. One is sincere, likeable and capable. one cannot make it la.. vote wisely
Mr Ng it goes to show how serious and sincere your true desires are in this election. The last lines from you moved me. You also showed the most effort and capability and gave most sacrifices in this election. Initially I judged you and your background, even your fiancée. But I forgot if Tharman was an “independent” too, he would receive criticism. Truth is nobody is independent here, but you are the least attached to affiliations politically. You have my vote, Chief Volunteer
Timestamps for #pe2023 Forums
3:41- Begin
4:26- Presidential Role 101 📖
For the sake of convenience, the names are short formed for convenience. NKS stands for Ng Kok Song, TS stands for Tharman, and TKL stands for Tan Kin Lian, respectively.
Question 1 - experience and expertise to deserve presidency 🗄
6:19- NKS ✋
8:31- TS🍍
10:42- TKL 🌐
Question 2- second key factors 🔑
12:44- TS 🍍
14:43- TKL 🌐
16:10- NKS ✋
Question 3- Convincing without political influence 🙊
18:01- TKL 🌐
19:34- NKS ✋
20:49- TS 🍍
Question 4- Unique Traits representation 💎
22:38- NKS ✋
24:10- TS 🍍
25:44- TKL 🌐
Question 5- Role of Inclusion and Compassion ❣
30:07- TS 🍍
31:38- TKL 🌐
33:08- NKS ✋
Question 6- Future Connection 📥 (not the #Pokemon song by ЯeaL)
34:54- TKL 🌐
36:08- NKS ✋
37:43- TS 🍍
Question 7- Unification figure ⛓
39:13- NKS ✋
40:45- TS 🍍
42:18- TKL 🌐
Question 8- Challenges Ahead ⛰
44:06- TS 🍍
45:42- TKL 🌐
47:03- NKS ✋
Question 9- Closing Remarks 🔚
48:53- TKL 🌐 (50:55- some corrections)
51:27- NKS ✋
53:17- TS 🍍
Thank you!! 🎉❤
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Appreciate the time stamps!
Effort appreciated
Love the emojis
Clear and concise, politically neutral - Ng Kok Song for the win 🦾 Why is Tharman even running for presidency? He should continue serving as a minister instead.
Tharman is overqualified while Ng Kok Song fits the bill as President. Voting in Mr Ng leaves Tharman with still the opportunity to serve in the international arena and thereby still fly Singapore's flag. While I respect and wish Tharman all the best, Ng Kok Song has won my vote. This way Singapore will have a win-win outcome.
You have left out another candidate 😁
But Mr Tharnman said he will not leave Singapore.
So let make Tharman as President Mentor😂
Think carefully.. Vote for someone who does not hold international positions outside the country. The President must be impartial and neutral to think clearly. Do not vote for someone who does not listen or care about you... Did he really remove streaming in schools or it is now called by other names or have gone worse? Do not be deceived..be wise and vote with your eyes open wide
@@tingguoyu4671 I take the election seriously. Thus I consider only the serious candidates. While largely ceremonial, the EP is nevertheless the Head of State. Seriousness here is defined as being up to the task and not just the candidates seriousness of intent. There is of course an interrelationship a candidate who is serious would inform himself of the Constituitional guidelines for the EP and also have conducted himself with the decorum worthy of the office. That should be the minimum.
I like how CNA right at the start, listed out the 3 job descriptions of our President. I think that while each candidate do engage us emotionally, at the end of the day, we need to objectively measure and weigh each candidate's experience and training and traits against that list and vote wisely. This is to protect Singapore and also the voted in President because I believe all three gentlemen want to do their best for Singapore. Majulah Singapura.
and yet needing to pofma one candidate later on lol... either intellectually lacking or illiteracy
Yes, especially for the Protective Function under Custodial Role. The independence from the ruling party is definitely a valid consideration for voting
@@joyseng This is what the opposition aims to drill into people to gain votes. Because that is the direct opposite of how EP was intended. This is no secret, LKY when first spoke about the EP in 1984 NDR, he says the EP, should ideally be a former finance minister, so he knows the in and out of how financial system functions and has the diplomacy skills to executive the presidential duties. In singapore context, any good intent were polarised by the opposition to turn it sour and sounding cynical for their political agenda, for what? If ill-intent ever existed, this ruling party would have long changed the constitution to their advantage, and turn sgp into dictatorship country without election. Logically, you dont put an engineer to be the CFO. The independence opposition narrowly defines is to create opposing force and they see that as checks. people like Tan Jee Say, Tan Cheng Bock, Tan Kin Lian are not neutral at all, but a strong sense of opposing. Singaporeans should judge base on merit and on-going performance of the gov rather than listening to manipulative politically motivated politicians.
@@joyseng no one can really tell whether he is non partisan or not. Many Singaporeans do not join any political groups but within us, we do have our own closet partisan inclinations. So we cannot merely depend on what anyone claims but to see their actions. Past ex PAP presidents, have they acted in a partisan manner?
@@fishphage2762Yes, we do have political inclinations among us. But to have a PAP MP quitting his party just to run for the Presidential Election and to be endorsed by the Prime Minister means a lot. None of our past elected presidents have evoked the Protective Function under the Custodial Role, probably except for Ong Teng Cheong. Is there really no issue of valid concern in their term, or are they just acting in a partisan manner to support the PAP prime minister?
Just my own feels NKS speaks from his heart. Tharman gives me too many "Standard Answers", he will make a good PM. :(
Agree, Mr NKS sounds more sincere.
Dont forget how much training Tharman has as a politician and speaker in big international forums and all his advisory positions, he is always politically correct from years of experience. He doesn't need a script. He has not only natural flair and eloquence with that brilliant mind, his giftedness is his profound intelligence and natural public speaking skills, his track record as a politician helped a lot along the way. I do think it's a natural script, but no less with heart. That said, the stars always align for him his whole life he is born and bred with a silver spoon and grown up through life with good opportunities as a blue eyed boy, from ACS right to the PAP and IMF on the world stage. His talents really should be better placed on this world stage to do better for humanity. He had his chance within the PAP to effect better policies and be that advisor and advocate for good change, but did he manage to, really? If no, then the President role is just going to be another cushy and stifling job for such a brilliant man. That's why he is best placed as our PM (economically) and not head of state (custodial or ceremonially). I think we really need more of an independent father figure as President.
Very well explained. Agree with you. Wonder why he didn't get to be.
TS - some fluff, but answers the qs
NKS - straight to the point
TKL - hehe :)
TKL as always tickle me with his speech.😂
What is hehe 🤣
Go for the person with the heart
Hee hee TKL = 💪🦾💪🦾💪
@@snugstudybug6402 In love and interpersonal relations, heart matters. Not wen the job requires depth of worldly thinking and steady nerves.
I'm persuaded by the argument that it's important we truly pay attention to truly building in our institutional & constitutional safeguards in the office of the President. Simply because our past Presidents have been in one way or another affiliated with political parties does not mean that was necessarily the best course of action. Mr Tharman has been a great minister and would be a great pick for President, but I think longer term and institutional considerations in terms of building in the independence that befits the Presidential Office are my priority -- and Mr Ng Kok Song, I think, has convinced me sufficiently he is someone who can set the precedent for being a non-partisan President.
Dear Kok Song, you've earned one more vote from me ❤
Sorry. No " Ownself Check Ownself President. TKL is the President. !!! 💙💙💙
@@user-gd1mb2dm8l TKL is a sohai
Kosong lost me when he stirred strife by fuming about opposition members supporting TKL. Acc to Kosong, just because one is in the opposition party, he loses his individuality to support a candidate?
This clearly proves Kosong is the establishment guy created to split votes of other candidates
NKS’ got my vote as a young Singaporean.
kudos to you, not a bad judgement. I would vote or ong lai Tharman. He just has a clear edge of diplomacy experience and could deliver this presidential roles smoothly. NKS has deep knowledge of finances and reserves and equivalently capable in defending any wrongful requests to draw down hypothetically if it happens. Diplomacy for NKS wouldn't be too much of a learning curve. TKL don't even need to consider at all lol
The establishment against TKL? The most independent, sincere, lovable candidate 😊
@@trevorscores28 no establishment against TKL. He himself made majority against him.
@Jack-hy2ki
What did he do?
Apart from the pretty face story amplification.
@@trevorscores28if I could vote(20 this year… so close to voting age) I would vote TKL as he is truly independent compared to the others related to the public service and PAP. As much as Tharman is talented and good, we can’t deny the fact that he would most likely be a puppet president like Halimah Yacob. As for NKS, he is also related to the government and probably would not go against them if there are any issues that affect citizen. From what I know about TKL, he lives a humble lifestyle and goes around to help people ever since he was NTUC Income CEO to help the less fortunate and struggling
NKS really impressive and I can actually see him as the president just by the way he speak!
Mr Ng, u have my vote. Fighting!!
No way . Its tharman in every terms. Infact he should be pm than president
Mr Tharman should be the PM. He is far more capable than the rest of the PAP ministers. Him, being the President is no different than what Mdm Halimah can do.
Mr ng kok song really impressive tbh..
I like the smile from Mr Ng Kok Song
Mr. Ng Kok Song fit perfectly the characters of The President of Singapore 🇸🇬. 🇸🇬 ❤️ 🇸🇬.
Mr. NKS expressed his desire to serve Singapore after observing that the younger generation is losing trust in the government. Mr. T attempted to avoid this issue during the forum. Mr. TKL is aware of the challenges that young and low-income Singaporeans are facing, and he believes that the solution is to change existing government policies as an elected president.
TS - trained statesman, smooth and eloquent but expected
NKS - held his own very well, articulate, clear, concise
TKL - still don’t understand he’s not running for MP. Still don’t understand scope of presidency
Tkl- I blame his incompetent hr for writing his script. 😂
TKL should be vote to be President of General Insurance Agent of Singapore🎉
You don’t understand not he don’t understand. President is not employee…
Nks is so stable and composed. One word: Wisdom
Appears to have wisdom but in reality full of hubris - the wayangs are aplenty. imagining himself as Pope by kowtowing, channeling LKY to comic effect when he pulls his face to act fierce & convicted. Having zero track record on ground, unlike TS and the list goes on.
He did his meditation before coming to the forum.
😂😂😂
Tharman outwits him actually
I actually thought this forum was a candid one, until TKL pulled his script out. Then I found myself on edge at his every word, almost nervous he might misread what was written. His pronunciation most definitely didn’t help. Frankly, I would be immensely embarrassed for the next 6 years as a Singaporean if TKL won. My lord!
I truly admire Mr. Ng Kok Song's exemplary qualities, which encompass integrity, intelligence, emotional intelligence, and his graceful demeanor when responding to comments and sarcasm directed at other candidates in various interviews as well. He has such poise and composure when he speaks. Out of the three candidates, he has the most charisma.
He's the only presidential candidate whose taken great efforts to connect with the youths and understand our uncertainties in his campaign. Not only does he take the time to understand the challenges of the youth, he is also a strong champion for inter-racial support and inclusivity, and for marginalized communities such as our hardworking migrant workers. ❤❤❤
He serves as a shining example of racial harmony, embodying the values we cherish. He started out from a humble background and worked hard to get where he is in life. As a potential president, he would undoubtedly represent our nation with grace and a deeply compassionate heart. His work on the international stage is remarkable and illustrious as well. The French government conferred on him the awards Chevalier de la Légion d’Honneur in 2003 and Officier de l’Ordre national du Mérite in 2011, for his contributions as a member of the Agence France Trésor's strategic committee from 2001-2014.
Our nation deserves a President who authentically prioritize the well-being of the people and set a compelling example for others to follow. In his speech in the presidential forum, Mr Ng shares his strong altruistic desire to serve the people of Singapore. Not for fame, power, or financial gains. We should support leaders driven by genuine compassion rather than those primarily motivated by financial gain or a thirst for power. He is a strong contender and is definitely as competent and qualified as the other candidates. In recognition of his outstanding contributions to Singapore, the Singapore Government also awarded him the Public Administration Medal (Gold) in 1996, and the prestigious Meritorious Service Medal in 2012.
i agree. KS seems to dig buying likes. even after being exposed, the team continues unabated - how can 1 joker pop out of nowhere & get 10+k followers in a single day even before campaigning started 🤷♂️
ps to all the haters, im not a bot, yall haters are just deluluuuu. no likes being bought here
im just an overzealous stan
i dont wanna get doxxed, hence a new account
I liike him too. Main job is to dilute ts voted
pretty sure this person is part of his paid marketing campaign.
@@Calvin-oh4tb u wish. you dont pass the vibe check, stop bullying me
TS was a PAP member not so long ago . I think we have more than enough of PAP influences in Singapore ! No comments forcTKL. So I will vote for NKS !
Mr Ng Kok Song has my vote. Gravitas, clear and sincere.
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Listening intently , Mr Ng kok Song a person of substance.
TKL may not sung the best hit song today among the 3, but he is the One who hit the right Notes and give me the goose-bump ... Bravo for TKL !
LOL you mean the majesty King Donald Tan ah 🤣 kopitiam uncle represent sgp to meet dignitaries ah? Please la don't
Of course! He is or else he won’t be handling our billions of dollars investment. But there is no prize for 2nd.
His boss is?
@@nickgoh8947 💪💪 Yes, only our last chance.
NKS seems to be the perfect balance for what this role needs. Wealth of experience, well spoken, and independent.
Unfortunately Mr Tharman's affiliation to his previous party might be his biggest disadvantage for someone who is very well recieved.
TKL sounds more suitable to be fighting for GE as most things he wants to address might be a bit more achievable through that route.
Tharman is obviously most strategic and most eloquent of the 3. Only worry is that common folks may not be able to relate to him because some may find him too scripted but I personally think he is at a level way beyond most people can relate to. Kok Song can probably relate best to the common folks amongst Singaporeans. I must applaud the earnest efforts made by Mr Tan trying to keep pace with Tharman & Kok Song.
Best comment 💪💪💪👏👏👏
Ng speaks more toward connecting with the people like individuals to care about their personality and improve themselves. This is very important to live in a society full of challenges. And he is also fluent like tharman. But I got the feeling he speaks more passionately like he meant it but not tharman. He knows what he is speaking, poised, calm demeanour and with consistent good composure. And he looked into various angles before speaking. Yes, I know they already trained this but his is very natural, with good points listed clearly. And he made me want to listen to what he is saying. He can represent our ctry.
For Tharman..hmmm he is alrdy in PAP for years so he is highly trained to be a politician. So, I can feel there is a mask. Not for the people kind of candidate. Yes...he is fluent but the points he shared are typical politics, and the typical talk only but will not be practical for the people. And again the tone he uses is a NOPE for me. The arrogance. There is a difference between acting confidence and being arrogant. Also his association as a board of trustee with that one organisation really made me don't have trust on whatever he said.The way he speaks, that tone is the same as those ppl in that same org. And this organisation has quite a bad reputation recently in relation to not being humane, depopulation, using climate change as an excuse for their agendas (I had hiccuped right when he mentioned climate change in his answer. I was like hah!there you are), creating viruses and etc.
As for Tan, hmmm this shows that those who get to be Chairman/CEOs of companies doesn't mean they are a smart thinker and knows what they are saying or doing, and/or have good communication skills. Reminds me of an ex-colleague who likes to boast "I have more than 20yrs experiences" but when work wise, cannot do. To be fair, I would like to say he might be a nice person but also those social media posts revealed on his status, I don't think he is suitable to represent or be the face of our ctry.
Ms. Otelli Edwards did well on hosting this event
Any bias?
@@user-gd1mb2dm8l What bias? She's just reading the teleprompter from start to the end. The only words she say on her own accord are the words "thank you" so and so after every answer provided by the candidates
maybe she too preety for TKl...
She tutored TKL
She tuition TKL? Bias?😢
Wah... was kind of undecided at first, but Ng Kok Song really won me over. I have no doubt that Mr. Tharman would be an excellent choice for president too, but Mr. Ng's words really resonated with me, and his closing statement felt sincere.
really? his body lang & what he says 'humbly ask' dont tally. full of himself & hubris.
KS is just another KFC
ROFL ah huat coffee mascot@@RT-ny9on
I think an outsider like NKS will do good for the country. Furthermore he has ALOT of experience
@@cetmjc6407 eh don’t insult ah Huat leh
NKS gets my vote, well spoken, clear, confident and very impartial can tell he will hear both the pap and opposition views in the future
He is busy with his Barbie doll. Got time for you?
Lee Kuan Yew found in NKS a meditation buddy. For LKY to choose NKS for such a personal and intimate activity in his last years prove the trust LKY had in NKS. Therefore, we can give NKS our vote. TS is still younger. He can take over after NKS
Ask him teach mediations in all the temples? Do we need him as President?
I don’t know what’s his motive for mentioning that but LKY learning mediatating from him and whether he can be a President are 2 different matters. Btw, I used to go to a friend’s house a lot, just because he had a sega and playstation. His academics were bad though
@@user-gd1mb2dm8lhe mentioned "meditation" because of mental health wellness. Not like he randomly out of the blue, mentioned about teaching LKY about meditation.
Part of me wishes Tharman would run as PM Mentor. With Ng Kok Song being President.
Both Mr Ng and Mr Tharman answered the questions that were asked of them. Mr Tan KL didn’t answer the address the questions asked of him on so many occasions. He kept talking about issues that is outside the jurisdiction of the Presidency. It tells me that if Mr Tan were to be asked important questions if elected Singapore’s President, he may be confused and act or say things wrongly. That’s scary!! Especially on the world stage. Tharman gets my vote. I want a qualified candidate with experience both domestically and internationally. Tharman understands that as Singapore’s President, his independence of mind is very crucial His past relationships with his ex-colleagues in the ruling party must have no bearing on his decisions an Sg’s President.
Whoever it ends up being, I hope the new Head of State has an immense knowledge not only about our country, but also the rest of the world, so that he can carry on meaningful and intelligent conversations with other Heads of State. Not forgetting the First Lady as well.
I think Mr Tan has joined the wrong election. He should join the general elections as he is so passionate in resolving issues regarding about cost of living, housing etc. Instead of answering to the question in how he can be the unifying figure, he talked about his main thrust to solve key issues before creating a unifying society. He kept forgetting the role of president hence the host had to remind him what president cannot do after his ending statement. 😅
Without a "Good Head", there won't be a "Good Body" - TKL is the Good Head, and watch for the next Good Body to form, in GE2025
He is just an opposition pawn 😂
His head and body will be buried before the next GE la 🤣
Don’t forget elected President is a back up for “rogue” government.
@@nickgoh8947 Please enlighten me in what way he has 'a good head'. I was neutral at first until I watched his fb videos during which he made some proposals that do not make sense to me. He has since deleted some of the contents. Secondly, he does not seem to understand the role of the President. He is campaigning the wrong way n is a divisive figure. It is either he really doesn't understand the role because of his command of the English language or he chooses to be disrespectful n says what some people like to hear. I personally feel that it is dangerous to have a such a person as our President who is supposed to play a unifying role.
Ng Kok Song has a very smooth delivery. His voice is like butter. He could become a radio DJ if he doesn’t get elected. I like his choice of words and his composure. Tharman seems a little nervous. His speech also sounds overly PR. 😐😐 Tan Kin Lian’s voice is like nail to chalkboard. He also can’t speak off the cuff. His pronunciation is subpar.
Different Folks, different strokes -- TKL's stroke is fine with me, thank you
Tharman better, can go nat geo if not elected
The ploblem of today society is that many people face many many ploblem and these ploblem they face will become tml ploblem if these ploblems aren't solve in this presidential term
People see the problems, know the problems, talk about the problems but most don't how to solve the problems on their own. When presented to them a way to solve the problems, they shun away. They keep relying the government to solve all the problems for them, to give them money but the government has to be fair to everyone so the monetary amount each received will be just this much and these people will keep complaining money not enough.
Choose someone who cares for others, not for position and power... Meditate over it
Wow. NKS spoke with great conviction and confidence. Very well articulated!
Wow....TKL is the only President who is not the Ownself Check Ownself President leh.
From the initial start, Mr Ng Kok Song had marked the first change by initiated go green Presidential Campaign through social media. Mr Tharman and Mr Tan KL, both had wasted resources on raw materials, manpower, $$$ from donations or ....... (taxpayer $ ???) for their campaign with big posters and flyers.
In this Presidential Forum, Mr Ng Kok Song has earned my vote. I 'm truly impressed by his competency and exemplary qualities. Mr Tharman went around the bush with no clear objective, he spoke about past events but nothing much about what he can deliver for the people in our near future. Mr Tan KL is going for "Presidency Power" but he seems lost and not clear of the boundary.
Tharman remind me a bit of salesman, like he is trying to sell a product(himself) for himself by convincing you that he is the best, but actually not. Some people know how to talk, a way to make themselves better than they actually are.
Respectfully ranking the candidates’ performance based on their answers:
1st place: NKS
Clear and deliberate pauses to not only think through his answers, but also allows viewers and listeners to understand his speech. Answers every single question succinctly and on point and offers summary of his answers. Great grasp on the time limit of each questions.
2nd place: TS
Clearly the most experienced candidate for public speaking but fell short on answering some questions like how are you reaching out to youths. Has the most sound answers to questions regarding reserves, own experiences etc. Giving quite a bit of filler examples to the last and most important question that deviates viewers from his most impactful first line. Asking voters to vote for him! Had to be stopped for one of his answers as time limit was up.
3rd place: TKL
Too many filler words throughout his entire presentation. Bringing up processes or ideas he would like to implement that are beyond the jurisdiction of SG president. Overall, his performance puts his credibility in question.
He pause cuz too old to think fast la
1 opinion 1 vote. My 1 opinion is TKL won easily
Beg to differ respectfully. NKS' answers are not profound, just run-of-the-mill (succinct yes) and btw his first answer also exceeded the time limit. TKL obviously CMI. TS ranks best to me - esp. cos of his *proven track record* intl and domestically. He has not only the intl repute that will help SG punch above her weight + on-the-ground track record of helping the disadvantaged (eg. Taman Jurong residents) that regularly impresses even the opposition, easily surpassing even LHL with ~75% approval during GEs. KS, all talk shifty eye body lang with hubris - even georgie boy did charity. KS prob just spent past yrs accumulating $$$ & suddenly POPS out of nowhere to contest for P - seems a lot to me like one last hurrah, for the prestige - & just look at the sob story he keeps on going on and on with - about his mother, akin to flogging a dead horse to win sympathy votes!!
But NKS can’t even reply a Chinese reporter’s question in mandarin despite being a Chinese.. not getting my vote
Actually I was expecting that with this debate nks would address the controversy over how he cannot be independent because he started and still runs the fund Avanda that has at least usd4 billion of GIC Temasek and SLF monies. Would he dare to piss off his biggest clients? he would be beholden to them. Why does he keep stressing his independence ? 😢
KOK SONG FOR PRESIDENT.
As impressive of a campaign NKS delivered, I still think he fall short compared to TS. Objectively, the strongest argument for NKS is his non-partisan status, which arguably can be matched closely with TS’s track record in parliament, always bringing independent thoughts and ideas. I think where TS edged this competition is his track record on community building which I haven’t seen any from NKS. TS gets my vote.
Tharman can better serve singapore by being a post minister advisor. Being president he cannot say or do many things. He is over qualify and not suitable. TKL doesn't answer well and needs paper as reference when these qns r very simple. NKS is the most suitable.
well, if only USA presidential candidates could behave and speak so respectfully. Majulah Singapura, your little country is on the right track.
Yes our President must have spine against all odds ⚖️✊✅🙏 ! GOD BLESS Singapore 🇸🇬& Singaporeans ❤⭐️! AMEN 🙌🙏🌈😇
Ng kok song's performance was really outstanding. Ill be voting for you.
respectfully nah. KS is all talk & full of hubris - zilch track record in helping people on-the-ground, unlike TS who regularly surpasses even Pinkie in getting ~75% during GEs for helping the disadvantaged in his constituency + getting even the opposition's admiration. Even Georgie boy did charity, KS prob spend past years amassing tons of $$$ and this is his last hurrah. How can we trust KS to unite Sgporeans?
@@cetmjc6407 I think Tharman's high vote share is mainly due to weak opposition (Red Dot United?? Singfirst???) if PSP or WP contested would he even get that high a vote share?
@@heotak3408 cos the Oppo fears him. Dare not field strong teams. WP too knws they stand no chance. Given their limited strength, they got to! ie. pick their battles.
@@heotak3408 You think they allow WP members? PAPPY members allowed right?
@@cetmjc6407 💯
Whatever is the outcome, I am grateful that this PE is not a walkover. This is obviously a hard fought battle among the candidates, and the winner can hold his head up high if elected as President.
Yes, agreed. At least it's not a walkover.
Nevertheless, it's sad that George Goh is not been qualified. I felt he should be a highly qualified candidate.
The selection criteria is too rigid, and unfair to some who are really good, keen and capable in doing the job. It should be reviewed and improved.
All veryvery goods wonderful excellent👍👍👍👍👍👍
tbh, with his experience and ability TS would be a better fit for deputy PM ( since lawrence is next) / PM, NKS for president which has comparably lesser power
Tharman’s eyelids blinks at supersonic speed when he was answering the question of partisanship. He’s either embarrassed or has something to hide. Blinking is a type of body language.
Yes but it can also be due to the aircon being turned up really high thus drying his eyes.
Instead of being armchair detective, professionals looks for clusters of signs happening in close succession and do not use a single sign to make a deduction if someone is being truthful or not.
@@laylaminrir what a coincidence the 👁️ drying only happened to him and at that precise moment of question.
@@happymeowmeowmeow they are seated at different angles it is possible. you can criticize his policies/values and thats fair game but to discredit him just because of how he appeared is pretty low. Its the same with how people just judge NKS unfairly and made many remarks about him but during his speech he held out pretty well.
@@laylaminrir He displayed in total 3 characteristics in public media that indicate his mendacity. It’s “cluster” enough for me.
Tharman is still the same gov/politician guy until now.@@laylaminrir
Body language, facial expression, how he answer, choice of words - mentality in entirety is one of politician.
Give you 1 clue - choice of using "profound uncertainties", "World is getting ...", it's all fear-inducing phrases typical of what you think?
Sara's right, was he blinking before his turn?
Ng kok song! Tharman is good but seems like every words are prepared. Ng is genuine and wise.
Tharman is truly sincere and genuine, speaking from his heart, unfortunately, he give an impression to people who does not know him well, appeared to be like PR and seems prepared. I have the same impression as you at first when I heard his speech, until the day my friends in Taman Jurong know him well in person, told me to listen to his interviews way back to 2020, then I realised he has been working towards what he spoke about all the topics in this presidency election, was been working on it since 2020, or even much earlier which I didn't notice it. Then finally I understand why people on the ground and international who know him, respect and love him, there are many Singaporean on the ground endorsed him, he believe in deepen respect lead to harmony, speaking from true experience, put his years of action into words, that why sound to people who does not know him well, like PR or prepared.
Don't mistake eloquence for lack of authenticity. Tharman's answers sound prepared because they are well thought out and he knows what the job takes.
@@hazelalmeida2939 And he know issues and problems the world are facing, working hard to protect our Home!
Polished and seasoned cannot be seen as prepared la lol... He is old bird and the EP under him would run sooth like my backside skin... Ong lai
Really?
Tidak ada seorang pun yang berbicara tentang penyelesaian masalah roti dan mentega kecuali TKL, yang menyebutkan kenaikan biaya hidup dan persaingan untuk mendapatkan pekerjaan sebagai kekhawatiran utama dan sangat nyata bagi sebagian besar masyarakat Singapura yang berpendapatan rendah dan menengah. Bagaimana pula dengan rakyat Singapura yang bahagia dan sihat selepas bersara dalam persekitaran yang terbaik tanpa mereka mempunyai alternatif iaitu mampan kepada umur panjang dan menjadi teladan yang dihormati oleh yang lebih muda atau dengan kata lain tidak pernah tua dan seperti dimanjakan oleh alkoholik kelas atas, dadah (tiruan,) muzik dll. negatif peribadi.
Halimah: heng ah! I siam all this sh*t before i was "selected" for this position.
Puppet president
As a president ,u don't need to be a fast speaking chasing the time .Be clear ,independent mind and unite the people.
All senior Singaporean are well educated. Many are inventors and achievers. The middle-age Singaporean - need to be given challenges and not just followers.
The word is exposure
why isn't TS not ever considered for PM, esp in 2010s?
why isn't both DPM ever considered? why is the 2 DPM there?
I'd like to have Tharman to be PM for GE2016, GE2020, and next GE. He has such a good runway for 12years as PM. he's a policy guy from head to toe - economics, finance are his forte - yet he went for president?
so did cna share the questions with any of the candidates beforehand?
So what? TkL still screwed up 🤣
Haiz...i prefer Mr Tharman to be our PM instead of President.
Sad hor.. he rejected the opportunity
It is Confirned that our next PM is Mr Lawrence Wong!
@@helenlee0911 ya.. he’s great but he don’t have the ASMR voice leh.. like listening to nat Geo, very calming and soothing voice.
@@user-ed3yy8gy2l This is the real him which endorsed by the ground Singaporean who know him, the world are having too much negative voice, and easily gets explode, he is a genuine goalkeeper for Singapore soothing the world.
Think carefully... Did he really remove streaming in school or the name has changed? Think of the tired young Singaporeans full of fear and who listens to them? Who is the one who will give up positions and power for you? Who insists on holding on to glory, position and power even after winning the vote? Can that person be neutral and represent you?
It would be good if there is more than 1 forum with each participants posing questions rather than a host asking questions.
NKS wants to be Chief Volunteer. Can he tell us his track record - whether he has been an active volunteer in any charitable organisations or advocate in certain social causes?
He was the Chairman of the Lien Palliative Centre. He has been quietly providing free meditation sessions for cancer patients for years. His fiancée Sybil Lau is on the board of enable sg, a charity which helps the disabled.
@@rachelburt2729 Many thanks for the info
Can we have another forum with people online asking questions?
i second to this and i love those people with their problems rather than those love questioning for nothing or selective and political. SMiLE 😀
My concern is whether more and more people eligible to vote in the future will let their dissatisfaction with the status quo dominate their choice of candidates. At least those three candidates are still safe, but what about the future election after this time if the dissatisfaction remains unresolved.
Emotionality will build up with dissatisfaction for reality life so this trend could be very dangerous for society. Even it may lead to more slits that are difficult to fit in a short period of time. I don't want to witness the future becoming more unpredictable.
This election not yet over, you already yapping about future ones.
Why worry about future when you dun even know whether you can make it through today?
Mr.T did not provide relevant/straight forward answer to most questions. 🧐. As compare to TKL and NKS their objective to stand for this election is well deliver in this forum.
What a waste for tharman for president role...he is much more capable..
I do not want someone who insists on holding on to international positions and not being neutral even after being elected and if he won the position of President. Did he really remove streaming in school or has the name changed? Who is listening to the tired young Singaporeans in our midst? Choose wisely
I'm more sure of my decision after this. Thanks.
I wanted Tan or NKS. It’s definitely one of the 2 at the end of the day. This gives me a clearer picture now. I feel bad for the other one of the 2 genuinely. Sorry..
NKS did well, but honestly, Tharman is the only one out of the 3 that I can be proud of to represent us internationally.
He's also been on the ground for years, helping people from every background, especially the disadvantaged, the differently abled, the single moms, and ex-inmates; and like he mentioned, no minister/PM, current or future, can fool him into using the reserves inappropriately.
Voters' dissatisfaction with the ruling party can easily be projected onto candidates who are close to the ruling party. This is unavoidable. We cannot ignore the fact that some voters will vote because of irrational thoughts that are difficult to control. Namely, emotions.
@@qing-xiyan183 I on the contrary, think that voting against the establishment figure IS the most rational thought loh.
NKS is the clear winner of this forum outshining other 2
😂 During a crisis, he will ask if the government can go make more money to pay the bill instead of touching the reserve. If the govt is not confident of generating more returns in future, does he mean no no cannot touch ? KNS. I am not impressed. He is too preoccupied with what he was doing in the past. Despite talking about the role of the president repeatedly over the past many weeks, he is still looking at the reserve from the investment perspective.
NKS CAPTURED MY ❤️ !. MEDITATING PRESIDENT Ng Kok Song 🎵 💖 ❤️ 😍 💓 💕 🎵 💖 ❤️ 😍 💓 💕 🎵 💖 ❤️ 😍 💓 💕 🎵 💖 ❤️ 😍 💓 💕 🎵 💖 ❤️ 😍 💓 💕 🎵 💖 ❤️ 😍 💓 💕 🎵 💖 ❤️ 😍 💓 💕 🎵
Brilliant and excellent hosting!
Government: We can we World Cup Champion.
Tan Kin Lian: let’s get the basics right first…
Do not dilute the votes with TKL, give NKS a chance.
Respectfully though, I think Tharman fits the role as our PM.
Indeed
Who choose someone who does not listen to you and insists on holding on to international positions even after becoming President? How can he fight for you if he is biased? Think carefully
if nks is of any substance, it wont matter.. but he isnt obviously. rather vote tkl instead.
Sorry our minds have been up not for NKS. Its for TKL 💙💙
do not dilute tkl votes also
Tharman has been sacrificed, talent wasted for him to take up the presidency position, he should be retained in the government office. NKS is clear and concise in his speech and his wisdom and experience came through. TKL is very grassroots level… 😅
Singaporean should vote NKS, from the outside looking in(Canada) he is my choice based on the 2 debates I watched.
You like Barbie Doll? LoL
Mr Tharman’s breadth and depth of experience in diverse fields put him way ahead of the other two hopefuls who offer at best the best of technical expertise. It is time we have a President of real substance.
That, my friend is useful as minister in government. Global views are a dime a dozen in the ranks of our competent government and civil service.
The nation, needs a president that is for the people. We are not in a republican presidential model.
@@kennethyeung7087 Indeed, Tharman stands to unify people, rather than deceiving his people with fake promises dying for this job. From the start he has been humble even knowing his odd if based on ability. If singaporeans think like you, it is shaming singapore to the world. It is very odd when he was in cabinet didnt hear sour grapes like you say he is good and respectable and when he runs for president a sudden change in stance to say he is over qualified lol... pure losers sensing the threat to your idol ah lol
If ever Tharman could never be PM, even if in the next GE202x,
he should and must be a MM.
20Years + 20 Years. From head to toe, he's a ECONOMICS+FINANCE specialist.
Just look at his CV/resume, to be selected by academics (university/studies time) and international people, it says a lot.
Tharman will shine as a Prime Minister. It’s a waste of a talent to run for President. I hope he rejoins politics and run for Prime Minister since Singaporeans are welcoming of a non Chinese PM
Ask yourself why PAP is willing to "waste" such a talent? Voting for Tharman is similar to giving both keys to our reserves to PAP. How could he be independent after being in PAP all his life. Why keep rising the bar till only a handful of people qualify. Why try so hard?
Haha. Tharman where is your spine to stand when you were the nation’s favourite for PM? Why you didn’t stand and fight for the nation’s favourite😀😊🤩
Is good he did not want to be PM. There is a good reason known to him and others.
yes. i vote for independent
30:18 NKS as Chief Volunteer (◕‿◕)❤
TKL is the most trustworthy to be the president
Based on the first question, NKS ‘s answers were well-planned. Gathered all the comments from social media (good or bad, mainly bad ones), summed them up, turned them into the correct views(according to Singaporean’s voice), and then fed them to the audience. I do not find him sincere.
Someone who listens to you is better than one who does not and insists they are always right even when they are wrong
nks 🎉🎉
Since when do we have 5 races in singapore??? Can someone enlighten me
All has good demerit points but a few things which is still scepticals..n hope it has a good balances...vote is a secret but hope those pointers will come in handy to the elected president as most if the pointers is actually good n need put to good use too..all the best to all..
Tharman talks big of his experience, fact is president is a figurehead. We dont need to know your ministerial past, you've been a long time politician, we know it already. He's giving career politician vibes, go do something else in the private sector. Kok Song on the other hand comes across as a genuine figurehead, a capable statesman and someone who is bang on neutral in the center. Tharman will clearly turn the presidency into a partisan tool to prop up and counsel a post-Loong Singapore. No thanks. That's not what the presidency is for.
If 3 candidates come to your office to interview for the post of CEO, whom do you think will be successful for this position?
NKS
Wrong job. CEO position is held by the Prime minister of Singapore. The post should be non-executive Chairman. A job that is still significant but is non-executive, meaning he or she does not lead or manage the company.
Like how the moderator reminded viewers about the role of president after TKL’s closing speech. 47:08
Bc govt worried that he speaks out for us. Hence u can see everything against him.
I ❤ Republic !
The best can be chosen as people are literate & educated to follow the print to progress as 1st world countries.
Did TKL say we need to reduce business costs such as WAGES in order to remain globally competitive? No pls.
this is my personal thoughts. Mr Ng's reply to the first question is a fund manager reply not a custodian reply. Based on CNA's list of what a president cannot do, what he is bringing to the Presidential table is what a president cannot do. Also Mr Ng's second point was that he is a responsible citizen. Aren't so many of our pioneer generation equally responsible as Mr Ng during those difficult times? So if I discount his superb fund manager skills and his tremendous sense of responsibility, there is really nothing he can bring to the Presidential seat. Of course, he definitely has more appealing qualities, but he didn't posture them in his reply to the first question.
Wat time start?
Is there 1 with mandarin subtitles? Really hope there's different subtitles to reach out different communities.
NKS is an old school gentleman with good business acumen. He wants to be known as the meditation president. Tharman is in-tuned n knowledgeable abt world affairs and served time working the grounds.
1 appeals to the sentiments, especially female voters, the other is a connected worldly politician.
In these churning and turbulent times, SG needs precious value-added representative in the presidency for home and internationally.
I am smwat conflicted by NKS old school values n religious beliefs with his co-habitation with sybil n for high office. Age is not on his side with the busy local n overseas schedule of the 6 yr term of presidency. I am for TS.
Ask NKS to serve the temples in Spore?...MAny waiting for mediations training.
@@user-gd1mb2dm8l He cld work the ground as chief volunteer for meditation. I read dats his other objective - chief volunteer.
He already planned marriage with Sybil but one of Sybil’s parent passed. Following the tradition, She is waiting a three years period to mourn the loss. That is why they aren’t legally married. Can’t understand why this is also held against Ng.
@@happymeowmeowmeow Traditional beliefs and personal integrity are 2 different principles. Co-habitation before marriage is a personal choice of values. For high office, ethics and morality are especially pertinent. If tradition is to be adhered, co-habitation is a taboo.
NKS and TS shines during this debate. So likely i will vote one of them in.
Tharman is truly sincere and genuine, speaking from his heart, unfortunately, he give an impression to people who does not know him well, appeared to be like PR and seems prepared. I have the same impression at first when I heard his speech, until the day my friends in Taman Jurong know him well in person, told me to listen to his interviews way back to 2020, then I realised he has been working towards what he spoke about all the topics in this presidency election, has been working on it since 2020, or even much earlier which I didn't notice it. Then finally I understand why people on the ground and international who know him, respect and love him, there are many Singaporean on the ground endorsed him, he believe in deepen respect lead to harmony, speaking from true experience, put his years of action into words, that why sound to people who does not know him well, like PR or prepared.
It looks like a speech prepped and memorised as if he already knows the questions long before hand... Gives it an unfair competitive edge.. Think carefully.. Did he really remove streaming in the school... It has gotten worse... Why Singaporeans are blinded? Vote carefully... For the sake of the next generation
@@snugstudybug6402 Urm NKS and TKL also has a script each. Or many2 scripts looking at the number of papers
Tharman sweet talk a lot though, most ppl are coyed by his smooth talking. He is opposition mindset but joined PAP and get neutralised.
@@markfish1113 Are you saying those people on the ground who have chances reached out to him, and get help from him, all are coyed? Wow... then that's amazing, not a few of them, it is a very big pool of ground citizen, hmmm....
@@helenlee0911 He has easy resources to help people due to being in PAP machinery and grassroots but still a very good sweet talker and packaging. Think about it he was leftist opposition activist in UK and his OSA offence caused him to be charged and fined in Singapore yet indebted as his career was saved and pulled by some very top people in PAP. He has left wing mindset but did not raise it to his bosses whom practice right wing policies and avoid to challenge PM post due to being indebted. From this history he is partisan and don't talk his true intention. Nothing against Tharman as he will win anyway, just highlight this point. He is 2-sided person through sweet talk, if left wing just say want welfare for Singaporeans and not flip to criticise European tax system because his paymasters preach right wing. For me Kok Song won the TV debate as he talked from the heart.
The historical context of Mr Ong’s presidency is crucial as we consider Tharman’s potential candidacy.
Since Mr Ong’s tenure, PAP has amended the constitution in 1996 to necessitate presidential consultation with the Council of Presidential Advisers (CPA) on matters concerning past reserves and key public appointments. If the president’s decision diverges from the CPA’s advice, Parliament can override it with a two-thirds majority vote.
Mr Ong is very committed to his duties.