How to Make and Use Hide Glue

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    Making using hide glue is just as easy as making it. Just add water and heat. the more water you add the more fluid it becomes. I use a wax heater rather than a double boiler as it is a bit faster and easier to control.
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  • @philaandrew100
    @philaandrew100 2 роки тому +9

    Love Hot Hide Glue. My Mentor introduced me to it more years ago than I care to remember. His trick was to make a batch up and let it sit for two days before using it. It does make a difference to the way it flows and the open time. During winter I like to warm up the timber to around 30 deg Celcius under a heat lamp before glue up. This help the glue to penetrate the timber and avoid the dreaded 'glue freeze' that is frustrating and often disheartening for people new to HHG.

  • @woodsmokemirrors703
    @woodsmokemirrors703 2 роки тому +2

    About the gram strength:
    Next is a quotation from The Sawdust- newsletter, volume 17, issue 5.
    " The grade number is the amount of weight in grams to push a ½” plunger into a jar of glue chilled to 50 F for 17 hours, 4 mm.
    -That indicates molecular weight. The higher the weight the more complex the compound. Denser.
    -The number then correlates to set time, etc."
    So it is an unholy alliance of metric and imperial measurements.
    That newsletter is worth reading by the way, it has plenty of information on hide glue.
    Thank you James for your efforts in sharing glue knowledge!

  • @BarryIrwin
    @BarryIrwin 6 років тому +2

    Great overview James, thanks.

  • @MrMNRichardWright
    @MrMNRichardWright 6 років тому +2

    Very interesting , looking forward to the head to head test results

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +1

      you and me both Richard. it will be interesting!

  • @emilyj8967
    @emilyj8967 2 роки тому +1

    I was pretty thrilled to find this video -- thanks so much for running through all that. Detailed enough for me to feel comfortable getting started, but not so much as to be overwhelming. Appreciate it! (PS -- the link to that warmer needs an update) :)

  • @FredMcIntyre
    @FredMcIntyre 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the info James! 👍👊

  • @thomasarussellsr
    @thomasarussellsr 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for this. Helpful information for sure.

  • @ScottCurtis
    @ScottCurtis 6 років тому +4

    Very interesting. I've been thinking about going down the hide glue route for my furniture projects and this has convinced me. I like the ancient natural feel to the whole process.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      It is more enjoyable, but I am a bit twisted. LOL

    • @snlescaille
      @snlescaille 4 роки тому

      Wood By Wright Is it strong enough for furniture?

    • @nurgle11
      @nurgle11 3 роки тому +1

      @@snlescaille Was used in most furniture making (e.g. cabinets, tables, chairs) before the advent of PVA type glues, so plenty strong and lasts for a fair number of decades (maybe centuries depending on the environment).

    • @snlescaille
      @snlescaille 3 роки тому

      @@nurgle11 Huh, that's pretty cool

  • @redmasqu
    @redmasqu 6 років тому +2

    Wow, you just really made hide glue less scary to try. I will be a lot more agreeable with trying it now. Thanks.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      Sweet! you really can't mess it up, and it is a lot of fun!

  • @steveherring1430
    @steveherring1430 5 років тому +1

    Thank you Sir ,very informative

  • @Thom4123
    @Thom4123 6 років тому +1

    Awesome idea for heating up your hide glue. I use Titebond hide glue on any glue up that’s going to be difficult or time consuming. And everyday glue is Titebond lll you get that tack up feeling with Titebond lll that you refer to with hide glue but I always use clamps.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      Nice. I only use TB III for exterior projects, but it will be fun to see in the upcoming glue test.

  • @fakiirification
    @fakiirification 6 років тому +2

    great overview. Looking forward to the strength testing. It would be interesting to make several "boils" from your rawhide pieces and see if it gives similar results to the various gram strengths of commercial glues. The only time i have ever made my own hide glue from scratch was for a sinew-backed bow project years ago, and that bow is still in great shape, so i guess i did something right! But i generally use the packaged commercial granules so i can know what sort of bond to expect. You are inspiring me to do some experimentation of my own. =)

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      thanks man. It will be interesting for sure!

  • @FabiansTinyWorkshop
    @FabiansTinyWorkshop 6 років тому +1

    Great video! By the way a Baby Food Warmer works great for hide glue.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      thnaks! interesting. I did not think it would get that hot. glad I am past that stage though.

    • @W1ldt1m
      @W1ldt1m 6 років тому +1

      Thanks, I've seen them for next to nothing at garage sales, and was wondering if I could use one. A double boiler always seemed like a pain to deal with.

  • @52memor
    @52memor 4 роки тому +1

    Great vid so I've subscribed thanks

  • @sinaTonewood
    @sinaTonewood 7 місяців тому +1

    wax heat is excellent, it avoid troubles of double boiler that are time wasting, glue wasting, and too much dirt adhere to tools,

  • @jpkalishek4586
    @jpkalishek4586 6 років тому +1

    I made a bow from oak, used unflavored gelatin as a hide glue, and rawhide to cover the limbs. Isn't a very strong bow, being about 35lbs pull, but it is still together and was built in 2005.
    Supposedly the best is fish glue made from the swim bladders of fish. The highly regarded horse bows of the Mongols, Koreans, and others use this traditionally with horn and sinew. Just don't get it wet.
    But that is another advantage of hide glues, one can apply steam or sometimes just a bit of heat and remove the parts, veneer, etc for repair or what have you.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      Very true. Another common one in Europe is bone glue and brain glue. Such versital stuff.

  • @mikescncshop
    @mikescncshop 6 років тому +1

    The wax warmer is a great idea, cheap and easy to find. Purpose made glue pots are just too expensive.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      so true. I could buy 4 of these for the price of one glue pot.

    • @almishti
      @almishti 3 роки тому

      @@WoodByWright what about using a tin can inside a bit larger tin can with some water in it, put on like a camping stove? Think that would work just as well? A thought I had to compensate for not having any actual dedicated work space.

  • @drmkiwi
    @drmkiwi 6 років тому +1

    Good stuff. You may have mentioned, but I missed is another really valuable property of hide glue is you can undo it. Just apply heat and it gives. And, you may be doing some people a disservice by not mentioning how your workshop will fill with a not unpleasant aroma when you warm up your glue pot! Cheers and thanks, David.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +1

      LOL yup. there are a lot of other good reasons.

    • @drmkiwi
      @drmkiwi 6 років тому

      Maybe we could make two comments for Pros and cons of Hide Glue? Cheers, David

  • @sinaTonewood
    @sinaTonewood 7 місяців тому +1

    hide glue is one of the best known glues for luthiery and carpenternary

  • @AncientGranules
    @AncientGranules 7 місяців тому +2

    I know video is old but, still useful - I prefer a glue like Hide Glue.
    Thank you, just what I needed to know! Got a 50 years old Brazilian Classical Guitar... long story short, neck started to 'crack' - i.e. possibly gluing off the body... I guess it probably was a water based glue, as guitar was mistakenly left in a room where ... (I know!) we dry clothing with a heat-dryer, so you get a 2 hours damp, then all dry up (the air too). I believe that is what happened, so I thought to add that glue - in the same room when damp - then position clamps to straighten it a bit and also forcing it to glue in that point. Hopefully works as the neck is not really bent - very slightly - it is the neck just coming off a bit from the body and I did not wish to actually detach it and re-glue - am I silly in doing this? I cannot afford a Luther, but I am a good DIYer - I fixed so many things and still working fine, having done a lot of different work in decades, but never done this one.

    • @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246
      @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246 7 місяців тому

      If your guitar is of good quality it will have a dado joint at that point.
      best to work it loose and clean it out before re-glue. Use a hot pot to heat the water to boiling and a good quality artist brush to feed the water into the joint.

  • @JakeMcNaughton
    @JakeMcNaughton 6 років тому +6

    I've always used unflavored gelatin from the grocery store. I figure it's the same stuff and easier to get my hands on. I never gave thought to what strength level it is though. I'll have to buy some glue that's been graded for strength and compare.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +1

      It is a bit weeker but not by much. A great cheap glue.

    • @Ebvardh
      @Ebvardh 2 роки тому

      Did you do it? If so what’s the result?

  • @tropifiori
    @tropifiori 6 років тому +1

    I use a dedicated small crock pot. It is great for veneer work. If the piece is left in a damp place the joints can loosen up.With the titebond product do not use it after the expiration date.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      that would be a great one. wish I thought of that one.

  • @adolforosado
    @adolforosado 9 місяців тому +1

    I found, that a simple desktop coffee mug warmer holds 130 degrees Fahrenheit. Ta Da thank you!

  • @michaelalfonso1070
    @michaelalfonso1070 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks that was interesting and extremely informative! I am re-gluing a guitar back, (vintage 1960’s), it has hide glue on it. Can the Titebond Hide glue be heated (steamed) later and taken apart? Can the hide glue you made be heated up later and taken apart? Or is it better to use 315 which I assume is real Hide glue and can be removed later. Thanks again!

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  3 роки тому

      Yes. All three of those will do the exact same thing The only difference is the strength of the bond when they're cured. But all three are reversible in the same way.

  • @flol4570
    @flol4570 6 років тому +1

    a warmer for baby milk bottles works great to keep it warm

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      interesting. I did not think it would get that hot. glad I am past that stage though.

  • @Guillaurent
    @Guillaurent 6 років тому +1

    Hi
    Have you been working with fish glue (colle poisson in French)? Is it the same kind of applications?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      yup. you can make glue from most any part of a body. they are all different types of protein glues each a little different making it a lot of fun. bone, brain, fish slime.

  • @christkandosii3337
    @christkandosii3337 5 років тому +1

    How to purify hide glue? Do I have to keep it boiling hot the whole time I’m using it? Can I just keep it really wet, or can I just pour some boiling water over some granules with some sinew, mix it fast then apply sticky sinew to project fast? I don’t have a hot plate and shouldn’t melt glue in the kitchen. Is the Titebond liquid hide glue comparable in strength to any of the three solids? Does it have urea and is it weaker?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  5 років тому +1

      there is no need to purify it further.
      you need to keep the heat up. the pot I use is a Wax melting pot. It costs about $25 on amazon. the heat keeps it malleable. if you let it cool it turns into a gel.
      the Titebond liquid glue is a slight bit weaker but not enough to matter. it has urea in in and I still heat that up for use to. that makes it easier to flow. just a hot mug of water is enough for that.

  • @stuartansell9461
    @stuartansell9461 10 місяців тому +1

    👌

  • @Scottrod4u
    @Scottrod4u 2 місяці тому

    Are you able to glue chip glass with the titebond glue??

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  2 місяці тому +1

      that would not work well o glass. for that I would go with an epoxy

  • @macmcatee611
    @macmcatee611 6 років тому +1

    If you can get your hands on it, get a small, say 2 oz. eyedropper bottle of Carbolic Acid. In the amount of glue that you are making two drops put in the glue when it is ready to use and it will preserve the remainder for months on end. It just sits there waiting for you to heat up again, add a little water and you are good to go. I have kept glue for six months in my glue pot with no deterioration at all. I bought my Carbolic Acid from a pharmacy in the early 1970's and I still have plenty left till I end up in th glue pot. If you were to add a little more glue and water to make up a larger batch just add a drop or two of Carbolic and keep on keeping on.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      interesting. I might have to give that a try.

    • @macmcatee611
      @macmcatee611 6 років тому

      This is something that comes from violin repair. You make small quantities of glue, say a tablespoon or so to repair an instrument. You end up with enough glue left over to use for the next instrument. Saves throwing out a lot of glue. It won't grow white hair, black hair or sour between uses. Carbolic acid has its own unusual smell, it's kind of medicine smelling. But it disburses once you apply it to something and the odor fades. Every time you top up your glue pot add a drop or two of Carbolic before you turn the heat off and you'll be amazed at how long you can keep the glue quite usable.

    • @macmcatee611
      @macmcatee611 6 років тому

      Here is a link to a source: www.naturalpigments.com/phenol.html

    • @rhpsoregon
      @rhpsoregon 6 років тому

      That makes a lot of sense. Phenol (aka carbolic acid) is a strong antibacterial and antifungal. It was used back in the old days before antibiotics to keep wounds from getting infected and speeding healing. You can still get carbolic salve from Watkins. The salve is also good for helping wood slivers work themselves out.

  • @420drwilldo
    @420drwilldo 4 роки тому +1

    My great grandfather was a cabinet maker and boat maker in New Orleans in the 30's and 40's they said he use to make his own glue that was better then what you could by in the store and the only ingredient my grandfather can remember is saw dust,,,is this it with saw dust added or any help would be awesome

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  4 роки тому

      interesting. I do not know what glue saw dust would help. if there is a void to fill then it has a great use.

  • @gregorymosher5008
    @gregorymosher5008 4 роки тому +1

    Hi James, I was out in my shop (detached, lovely cold concrete floor) with my son and he was helping me apply hide glue once it was ready to a bunch of mortise and tenons etc for the work bench we're building.
    My shop (16x26) is "well ventilated" aka need to finish some blocking, spray foam etc so doesn't keep heat perfectly well but makes it warm enough that if we're using hand tools (99% of the time) we're plenty warm, however when we applied the glue, within 1-2 minutes it was solidifying and we could scrape it off. the air is probably cool, and we live in eastern Canada, and the bloom strength of the pearl hide glue from Lee Valley was probably, 156 Gram strength I believe.
    Is the bond of glue any good if it solidified that quickly? The tenons are pegged, and pegs are glued as well so may be hard to test it. but if it cools that quickly, do you know if it ruins the bond?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  4 роки тому

      That is perfectly normal. It is one of the downsides to a heated hide glue. If the wood is cool it will chill the glue quickly and lessen the working time. But it will hold just as strong. Usually I try to make sure my shop is above 19° c. But that's just to make sure I have enough working time to get it in place. Even then you only have a few minutes of working time before it starts to harden.

    • @felixshaw1380
      @felixshaw1380 3 роки тому

      You could maybe warm the joint with a hair dryer before applying the glue?

  • @joshr8967
    @joshr8967 6 років тому +1

    Have you considered trying to work with pine pitch? I'd love to see you try your hand at it

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +1

      that is on the list. there are a ton of old homebrew glues I want to play with.

    • @gregorymosher5008
      @gregorymosher5008 4 роки тому

      @@WoodByWright I'd love to see this too! My 7 year old son is becoming addicted to the woods and axes, which I'm steering into green woodworking. If he could make some sort of his own glue out of all the pines and saps from conifers he would lose his mind!

  • @nadialynsaraza7142
    @nadialynsaraza7142 2 роки тому +1

    Hello. I don't have a wax melting pot. Is there any alternative aside from using the liquid titebond? Thank you so much!

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  2 роки тому

      A lot of people will use a teacup heater. You can even get those with the USB plug in. Or if you have a double boiler those work very well.

  • @joelzuieback7598
    @joelzuieback7598 4 роки тому +1

    I have used hide glue to hammer Pao Ferro veneer very successfully. I understand that either salt or urea can be added to 192 gram weight to increase the working time. If so, what is the "spec" for urea or salt and how much would be used for each gram of hide glue. thx.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  4 роки тому

      yup. historically you would use pee to mix the glue rather than water that small amount of urea in there would do the trick. as to how much to use i am not sure. i have never had the need to do it. sorry.

  • @drmkiwi
    @drmkiwi 6 років тому +1

    Pros of Hide glue:
    Low cost
    dries quickly
    fills gaps
    sands easily
    does not affect wood for stain (as compared with PVA)
    it is a natural product
    able to be undone (with heat)

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +2

      you forgot Smells good. Easy cleanup, fun to use, lasts forever in the dry state, and all natural food safe.

  • @sandiegodan
    @sandiegodan 8 місяців тому

    So if I'm understanding, if I'm re-gluing a guitar pick guard, 192 would be fine but if I'm putting on a guitar bridge I'll want the 315. I was unclear how the strength of the liquid glues relates back to the granular grades. Are they for low, med, or high strength applications? Thank you! Great information.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  8 місяців тому

      exactly. it is a strength of the glue.

  • @devinholland2189
    @devinholland2189 2 роки тому +1

    Cameo from the SV Seeker mug.

  • @fisherman070707
    @fisherman070707 4 роки тому

    Just wondering where you got wax warmer as I could not find it and who is your hyde glue supplier

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  4 роки тому

      here you go. Wax Melting Pot - amzn.to/2tp9I6S
      Titebond - amzn.to/2DmcABn
      Old Brown Glue - amzn.to/2FI1OKW
      192 Hide glue - amzn.to/2Hs0toU
      251 hide glue - amzn.to/2FzM2P2
      315 Hide Glue - amzn.to/2FCoPM4

  • @MrNickdino
    @MrNickdino 5 років тому +1

    Do you have experience with (5%) acetic acid or formaldehyde or aluminium sulfate to make the glue stronger or harder or more moist resistant?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  5 років тому

      I have used a few of them. But I have not actually tested them to see if the claims hold up.

  • @nabrup3
    @nabrup3 7 місяців тому +1

    How dose this hide glue compare to typical wood glue? strength, color, etc.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  7 місяців тому +1

      You should check out "the great glue test" to compare strengths. But as to color it is far more transparent and it absorbs finish better.

  • @curtiseverett1671
    @curtiseverett1671 2 роки тому +1

    Thx for great video. Question: how do you clean the remaining glue out of the pot when you are done? Thx

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  2 роки тому +2

      I generally don't. I just put the next batch in and go to town. But if you wait until it's to the rubbery stage you can actually just peel it out of the pot. Then set the puck aside to be used another time.

    • @curtiseverett1671
      @curtiseverett1671 2 роки тому +1

      @@WoodByWright Thanks!

    • @JMLRecording
      @JMLRecording 2 роки тому

      @@WoodByWright Thanks for being here in the trenches help us brother, very kind of you

  • @johnkovacharpsbydavyc3505
    @johnkovacharpsbydavyc3505 Рік тому +1

    How strong is Titebond Hide glue compared to the 300+ bags of beads?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  Рік тому

      It's right about the same I have a series of videos testing glues and I've done several comparisons to hide glues and several others.

  • @Iamtoookool
    @Iamtoookool 6 років тому +1

    When working with hide glue you should avoid brushes with Metall. It can cause staining of the wood.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +1

      that is true with steel and other ferrous metals but these are aluminum. like the pot.

    • @Iamtoookool
      @Iamtoookool 6 років тому +2

      I did not know that aluminum works, thanks for the tip. :)

  • @1960fusion
    @1960fusion 2 роки тому +1

    great information, does the wax heater get hot enough to melt the hide glue in a jar? i like to heat and keep the glue in a sealed jam jar and this heater looks like a jar would fit perfectly in it. thanks for the video!

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  2 роки тому

      Yes. That's actually a way that I often do it. I'll fill it up with water and then put the glue bottle in that and it'll melt it down in the bottle.

    • @1960fusion
      @1960fusion 2 роки тому

      @@WoodByWright thanks for the quick response, i will order one since they are so inexpensive compared to purpose built glue heaters.

  • @alphakoala8787
    @alphakoala8787 6 років тому +3

    in germany we have bone glue as the cheapest an most common natural glue. it becomes hard as glas (or hard as a bone, as this is what it is made of). General hide glue being more flexible when dried out is only used where that flexibility is needed. and there is more special stuff like hare glue an even glue made out of fish and or parts of fish. in english an american videos it is allwayd all about hide glue. is there realy no glue made of bones or other stuff available?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      all a lot of fun. I am wanting to do future testing on them. they are all a type of protein glue but different protein mixes give deferent adhesions and flexibility making it fun to come up with different uses.

    • @Andyjpro
      @Andyjpro 6 років тому

      For the record, bones don't melt. Any glue made from bones is still hide glue. It's just sourcing the collagen from a different source.

  • @conoromeara8974
    @conoromeara8974 Рік тому

    You said it goes bad if you leave it out, so what happens to your glued joint over time!?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  Рік тому

      If you leave it out and wet it will get moldy. But if you dry it out then it's perfectly fine.

  • @ryananthony4840
    @ryananthony4840 Рік тому +1

    Can u warm up the Titebond if u want to thin it or would that ruin it?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  Рік тому +1

      sure you can warm it up. just do not go over about 150f as the proteins start to break down.

    • @ryananthony4840
      @ryananthony4840 Рік тому +1

      @@WoodByWright thanks, wasn't sure since it can be used cold I thought maybe there was other ingredients in it that might be affected

  • @UncleSamsDeplorable
    @UncleSamsDeplorable 5 років тому +1

    So a 192 for violins since they get opened for repair?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  5 років тому

      yes. that is also better doe sound vibration.

  • @carbonitegamorrean8368
    @carbonitegamorrean8368 6 років тому +1

    Was hiding till ya posted a vid

  • @RayVRoberts
    @RayVRoberts 6 років тому +1

    so which "gram strength" do you think Old Brown glue and the the Titebond are made from?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +2

      I do not know. I am guessing OBG is around 250, but who knows. it will be fun to see on the upcoming test.

    • @RayVRoberts
      @RayVRoberts 6 років тому

      Yes, if that actually ever gets posted (cough...)

    • @RayVRoberts
      @RayVRoberts 6 років тому

      Titebond claims their hide glue is almost the same bonding strength as Titebond II... that's pretty impressive for a hide glue

  • @johnresciniti4290
    @johnresciniti4290 3 роки тому

    Using

  • @maililistaalterego
    @maililistaalterego 6 років тому +1

    James, have you tried making liquid hide glue at home by adding salt or urea to your hide glue mixture?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      I have not put any additives in mine. It gives them a longer working time but can weaken the glue a bit.

    • @maililistaalterego
      @maililistaalterego 6 років тому +1

      Wood By Wright yes, that's right.
      I'm asking because I'm running out of Old Brown Glue and getting it shipped to my corner of the world is too expensive. So I would like to try making a similar liquid glue.
      It's strong enough for my purposes, the long open time is great and it even works in my cold shop.
      I found a few recipes online that I intend to test.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      yup. then Urea is the way to go. the old method is to hydrate the glue chips with pee. but that would smell fun when warming it up.

    • @maililistaalterego
      @maililistaalterego 6 років тому

      Wood By Wright I think I will use pure urea from the gardening store instead of peeing in my glue pot.
      Table salt should work too.
      I've never tried either, I would have liked to hear some experiences.
      Here's someone's blog with a few entries about liquid hide glue: www.workbenchdiary.com/2013/06/its-easy-to-make-your-own-liquid-hide.html?m=1

  • @ejtakach
    @ejtakach 6 років тому +1

    What's clamping in the background?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      a bunch of plaques for a local camp. I might make a video of it, but we will see.

  • @dudeman6210
    @dudeman6210 3 роки тому +1

    glue

  • @rick91443
    @rick91443 6 років тому +1

    Great James...Will have to see if we can buy it in France and if the "bone" glue Peter mentioned exists here. Someone once told me that they used to make the glue out of chicken bones...AND now the glue wasn't as strong because the chickens were factory/battery hens...Heard that many years ago...cheers...rr in Normandy

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      yup. you can make glue from most any part of a body. they are all different types of protein glues each a little different making it a lot of fun.

  • @reforzar
    @reforzar 6 років тому +1

    You can make glue out of any body part.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +1

      that you can. just come on over! I will show you.

  • @MadMulberry
    @MadMulberry 6 років тому +1

    James, James, James! You're letting the side down. I've no problem with you using hide glue, but an electric doodad to heat it with is sacrilege. You should have installed a wood burning stove in the corner.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      LOL I actualt am planning to do that in the new shop, but that is a wile down the likst!

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    Why don't you show its incredible shear /tensile strength ---try to pull glued blocks apart ?--(I' made my own -used it 60 yrs --NOT WATERPROOF --But very strong ! hopeless for parquet flooring-(rain )wet shoes etc

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  7 місяців тому

      here you go. ua-cam.com/video/JFEPTPTtFsw/v-deo.html

  • @wolin289
    @wolin289 2 роки тому +1

    Is this hide glue also called "pearl glue?"

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  2 роки тому

      I've never heard it called Pearl glue before but it does go by a lot of different names.

    • @timbo389
      @timbo389 2 роки тому

      Pearl glue is based on its appearance. what James has was the flakes, but pearl glue looks like little pearl pellets. I’ve actually been warned not to use pearl hide glue for my application.

  • @felixshaw1380
    @felixshaw1380 3 роки тому +1

    You didn't mention it's main benefit, which is you can undo the joint with hot water.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  3 роки тому

      Oddly enough you can actually undo PVA glue as well with hot water. Both of them are about the same difficulty to reverse. With hot water.

    • @felixshaw1380
      @felixshaw1380 3 роки тому

      @@WoodByWright Really? I did not know that. I always use hide glue for gluing guitar fronts and backs to the sides, as it often doesn't stick first time, and you have to go back and reglue bits.

  • @Hannobaum83
    @Hannobaum83 6 років тому +1

    Interesting. Thats different in Germany. We don't have grades for the glue - we just make a difference beween the kind of glue. So we have bone glue, cow skin glue, boar glue, rabbit glue, fish glue and for the pros "salianski fish glue", a glue made out of the swim bladder of beluga sturgeons (is sticky down to a concentration of about 1% and is used to consolidate paintings and so on) ... fish glue normally comes in liquid and doesn't need to be headed. Its great to glue complicate things like chairs. The downside of it is, that is treated with conditioners to make it last longer in the liquid form. the boar glue is used mainly for leatherworks and is traded in a kind of paste. All the other glues are traded in pellets or pearls or so.
    Any of this glues could be thined with water to a concentration of about 5%... some even lower without getting low functional. They just don't fill gaps that much.
    for veneers for example I use 1:1 cow and rabbit in a concentration about 20%. Than you could rubb it on with a hammer - we have a special hammer with a wide fin.
    I heat up my glue in a cheap heater for baby milk... it has all you need. Water bath, temperature control... you get them for some bugs on a flea market. I use an old glas for the glue witch you could put into the fridge with a lid overnight or for a longer therm.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      so true. glue can come from almost any part of any animal and they all have fantastic different properties!

    • @Hannobaum83
      @Hannobaum83 6 років тому +1

      Wood By Wright if you like some samples of tze different glues, let me know. I would send you some. But shipping might take some time... :D

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      sounds like fun. I can add them to the next glue test list.

    • @Hannobaum83
      @Hannobaum83 6 років тому

      So an idea should get real - but there are some difficulties as I prepare the shipping. the salianski glue is regulated by CITES and wouldn't pass the border control. the liquid fish glue, I'm unsure about it. All the others are traded by Kremer Pigments in the US, so ist might be easier, cheaper and faster to order there and send it to you... I will make up my mind about it.

  • @davidwilliams6016
    @davidwilliams6016 6 років тому +1

    SV Seeker- shameless,but subtle .

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      LOL I had a fun time helping him. hoping to go back there sometime soon.

  • @TheOlsonOutfit
    @TheOlsonOutfit 6 років тому +1

    Anyone out there use fish glue? It's supposed to have an even longer open time. I haven't tried it yet.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      yup. you can make glue from most any part of a body. they are all different types of protein glues each a little different making it a lot of fun. bone, brain, fish slime. but sorry I have never used that particular one.

    • @Hannobaum83
      @Hannobaum83 6 років тому

      In Germany they trade a liquid fish glue. It has a quite long open time and is good to glue for example chairs. Its ready for use. But it isn't cheap. 18-20€ per liter.

    • @fakiirification
      @fakiirification 6 років тому +1

      fish glue has similar bond strength to hide, but much longer open time. some joints requiring days of clamp time as opposed to hours or minutes with hide glue. Good for really complex glue-ups where alot of parts need to line up before closing the joint.

  • @alans1816
    @alans1816 6 років тому +1

    My impression was that the big difference between glues of various gram strength was speed of setting more than strength after cure. I like your videos, but it's not helpful that your intentional misspellings lead people not familiar with hide glue to think it's actually "Hyde" glue. Maybe include the Mr.?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      thanks Alan. all 3 cool at the same speed and setup about the same.

  • @RayVRoberts
    @RayVRoberts 6 років тому +2

    disappointed that you aren't using some type of solar heater for the "hyde" glue... (solatube up through the house shining down on the pot...def more your style...)

    • @RayVRoberts
      @RayVRoberts 6 років тому +1

      hey, someone has to mess with you...

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +2

      Lol I thought of starting a fire in the basement. But my wife did not like the idea.

    • @RayVRoberts
      @RayVRoberts 6 років тому +1

      Fire is reserved for spiders...

    • @TaltosVT
      @TaltosVT 6 років тому

      More than you'll probably ever want to know about unplugged glue pots: mshepherdpiano.com/antique-piano-tools/glue-pots/

  • @jrlejeune
    @jrlejeune 6 років тому +1

    Hi James, title has "Useing" Hide Glue" instead of "Using hide Glue." Oh well. . .

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому +4

      Welcome to the inside group. I missspell or make something off in that card every time. it is a fun game to play with the audience.
      it also has Hyde not Hide. I am just having a lot of fun with this one! LOL

  • @nickdryad
    @nickdryad 3 роки тому +1

    Can a vegetarian use hide glue?

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  3 роки тому

      I guess it depends on what type of vegetarian you are.

    • @felixshaw1380
      @felixshaw1380 3 роки тому

      As long as you don't eat it!

  • @mickleblade
    @mickleblade 6 років тому +1

    could you use a microwave? seriously. Foodies insist on melting chocolate with a double boiler yet a microwave works better. Not for the manufacture of glue, but the warming and prepping

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      You could but you want to keep it close to the work. The moment it cools it starts to set, also, you would want to do it in sperts so as not to boil any one part. That will break down the protein.

    • @mickleblade
      @mickleblade 6 років тому

      ah! can you tell I've never used the stuff?

  • @jeffkerr4249
    @jeffkerr4249 6 років тому +1

    Sticky Subject.

    • @WoodByWright
      @WoodByWright  6 років тому

      Oh I should use that for the glue test video intro.

  • @harrymason1053
    @harrymason1053 8 місяців тому

    What absolutely mystifies me is when someone is showing something to you/me, they shake it, wave it around, or point with hand blocking the view. Look, if you want me to see it, cradle in your hands, present a clear view, and stop moving it at least for a few seconds. Gheesh! Give us a break. You know what you're showing us. We don't. Learn to pause and quiet yourself briefly.