I don’t think it’s a failure, but I do believe it looks too much like Snowrunner currently. It may be because they haven’t gotten too far into it, which is understandable, but I would wait to drop a trailer until the game looks more unique
Probably like an alpha or beta thing, its better to perfect the functions of a game before making it look good. Same story with what people were saying about the September GTA 6 leaks.
@B0NES_YT Well, that was leaks and this is marketing material from developer. So you want to represent your product best as possible. I'm pretty sure that's how the game will look in the end. This is not new snowrunner game this is a spinoff in the series on the same game engine. Both games will be developed at the same time
Ngl, if they replaced 90% of the hauling missions with more stuff for scouts to do, I'd be pretty happy. Hauling is an interesting challenge and the backbone of the franchise, but it gets tedious pretty quickly.
If it's just going to be a snowrunner spin-off without cargo hauling or any improvements then I'm not sure, but if it will be an improved game with better game mechanics then I think it will be a success.
And what most people forget: game developers always have SEVERAL games in development at once. These games are just in a different stages. And if the studio sticks to an engine (Unity, Unreal, .....) the games look pretty much similar. We'll wait and see what happens with this new entry... 😎🤟
Looks like this game is going to push alot more strategy into how we complete our objectives. Resources and the trucks we use will be limited as we attempt these missions, and failure will come at a cost, not just a "recover to garage" anymore. Along with resources we load onto our trucks, being beneficial and helping our progress will also cut down on our profits. I think this is a great foundation to improve the next "Snowrunner" game, since this is just a spinoff at this time.
For someone that got into the runner series with Snowrunner, I'm looking forward to see what they add and improve to what we had in Snowrunner, many thing i really hope they improve is the physics and multi player connectivity
Here is how it feels like to me. The devs don’t care about the franchise and it’s origins. They have put out a visually impressive game with decreasingly reliable mechanic making gameplay more and more frustrating and nonsensical. The devs probably went on mod Io, looked at the most popular and downloaded types of addons (sadly, mostly powerful scouts and trail riding maps) and determined this is what the player base wanted. Might be what a majority of the new player base enjoys, but they are gonna lose all the OG players who fell in love with Spintire/Mudrunner caus this new game…..has nothing to do with the essence of this franchise.
I want more of a trail riding game, with an expanded multiplayer experience (much larger lobbies) and a mod browser that actually works lol 😅 if expeditions ends up being that then I'll like it better than snowrunner
So I have recently revisited mudrunner and noticed how the game used to feel more realistic. You are driving a gigantic machiene throu the wild, punching it throu gigant rivers and deep swamp. Snowrunner on the other hand is more arcade style and has a more modern way of marketing (paid DLCs). I see this as a downpoint for snowrunner and decides that both games have their own good and bad. For me they are about the same. So when I just heared that a new game is comming, I was really excited. However I see in the trailer that it could just be like a bigger dlc sold as a seperate game. Of course I hope it is not that, in fact we dont know much at all, but I am a bit worried that the whole game series is going down slowly, tourning an epic offroad experiance into a money maker that is full of skins and paid content. To be clear I have not lost all hope, but I might be debating buying the game it it means I only get 1/10 of the offerd content after paying 'full price' Also lets remember how snowrunner season 1 pass was marketed as "ALL upcomming content" but then they made smaller seperate dlcs and 2 more seasons Also please say the game focusing on scouting does not mean I have to buy a new dlc daily because after I scouted the area its pretty much done (I dont think its the case, but could be) Also I might be overthinking this, but what if snowrunner never got desert like regions just so the new game has a straight up selling point. Why ia there no desert map in snowrunner, would be the first dlc I would buy next!
I’m happy to have a split of hauling and exploration and the point about previous gen is a great one. I almost wasn’t able to afford a ps5 and I got lucky. I’ve still got friends on old gen and playing games with them is such a blast so I’d be happy to see expeditions on current and previous gen
I like the new oversized tires size for the lada niva & uaz buhanka, but i'm kinda curious about where they are pointing with this, i got to see the game first but i don't know how you can base your game only in expeditions, if that's what you do in every new map in snowrunner
I still run Snowrunner on my One X when my Halo Infinite Edition Series X is updating. The One X runs Snowrunner smooth as silk. However, I can truly see dropping OG One and PS4 support because they hardly even run games made in 2023 for cross platforms without noticeable issues. To make this easier to understand; I ran Halo Infinite on my 2013 Launch Team Edition Xbox One and I could tell a big difference in performance when I played it on my Halo Infinite Edition Series X a few hours later.
Ppl were saying snowrunner should have been a mudrunner dlc, then we actually got our hands on it an realized it was a truly new game, engine, physics ect, let's wait till we get more info about expeditions before breaking out the pitchforks an torches
The unique real deal between older and newer consoles is about graphics and not about gameplay, for this reason retrogammers can enjoy to play old games.
Hi TC, I'm one who has a ps4 and I can't afford a ps5, we are working on a budget, and things are tight. I love snowrunner and I play it almost every day.
Hey another person with a logical head on their shoulders. Yes I get that it's how many already months and almost a year into the PS5 lifespan but it is hard to afford a PS5 when you're on a budget. Bill's before entertainment. You also got to think of the younger children who don't have any money and only get a small allowance every month and get their console handed down from their older brother or sister.
They should drop the old gen consoles we’re three years in to the current gen consoles right now look I get there is still a lot of people on last gen but it’s time to drop the old consoles if you want to make your game as impressive as possible. I’m not blaming anyone who can’t afford, or doesn’t want to buy a next gen console but we who have bought current gen consoles need a way to justify the purchase and games come not looking visually impressive then the purchase is harder to justify By now we should be getting games that truly show wha the current gen of consoles is capable of but by keeping las gen in mind we can’t really get those games As for the game looking like a dlc for Snowrunner it’s a valid point, the trucks the show off outside of one are the same trucks as in Snowrunner, the addons are nothing we haven’t seen from from the moddin community. The scenery looks unchanged from last game all that doesn’t scream new game to me They couldn’t even be bothered to come up with new fantasy brands or get new licenses to real life vehicles? Come on that’s laziness it’s like they went “I’m tire of this so I’m just gonna port trucks from our last title, no one’ll notice” we we did
Надеюсь не забросят первоначальную идею игры с грузоперевозками, экспедиция это круто но не тянет на отдельную игру. Я фанат всей серии бегунов но то что я увидел в этом трейлере меня если честно озадачило.😮 I hope they will not abandon the original idea of the game with cargo transportation, the expedition is cool, but it does not pull for a separate game. I'm a fan of the entire series of runners, but what I saw in this trailer honestly puzzled me.😮
Listen i get it with the old gen argument … but honestly it’s really about time we get a full next gen games with using the next gen hardware to its potential we have yet to have next gen exclusives but a small few just because devs dont want to leave old gen behind …. Back in the day when a new game console came out and you wanted to play that new game . You had to upgrade lol …. When GTA3 came out for ps2 what did we all do if we wanted to play gta ??
For sure! Like I get people being upset about having to buy a new console but at the same time I feel like it’s worth the upgrade so you’ll get to enjoy better built games!
@@TC9700Gaming yeah its about that time LOL i mean we are already starting to hear about the next consoles coming out with pro models and so on . Anyways always enjoy your content keep up the good work been following since spintires , i found the game from you all those years ago !!!
So like I've been repeating to a few other people you're going to tell someone that got their console handed down to them to go out and buy a new console especially if it's a seven-year-old. Most people don't have $1,000 lying around.
@@hoodedfarmer new consoles arnt 1,000 bucks . And yea time to upgrade cant hold back technology for a few ppl that “cant afford it” And a 7 year old doesn’t even need to be playing on new tech give them a n64 and they will be happy lol. ppl that dont have a new the new consoles can play snow runner until they can upgrade very simple . What so are we supposed to stop all technological progress just because so may not be able to upgrade , nothing else in the world works like this
To me it’s not about what you are doing. Hauling/exploring is part of all the games. what it feels like is a step to the side not up. adding new features, trucks, UI. doesn’t make it a new game. It needs a graphics overall. i’ll say this till i’m blue in the face. haha. UE5 is what this game needs. Driving the most realistic trucks in a map that is real looking as starring out the window. 1. UE5 upgrade 2. ability to get out of your truck and walk around it, manually hook winches, get in another truck etc. 3. real world trucks made to scale, stats, weight, fuel, power and look. 4. upgrades shown in trailer 5. environment changes when competing tasks. not just a bridge/building. 6. ability to build garage anywhere
Heya TC. Long time since I commented on a video even though I watched them. But looking at the videos of this trailer is the Snorkels missing on these vehicles or is it me. Maybe I overlooked the snorkels on the videos? It looks like a good game otherwise.
I may be way off base, but I think a new game being made for PS4/XB1 and Switch tells us a lot about how limited the game will be compared to "what is possible". This game also looks right now to be a lot like Subnautica vs Subnautica Below Zero. But I hate to fully judge based on one under 2 min video.
Не буду слишком категоричным, но пока это похоже на модифицированный сноураннер в виде миссий с небольшими модификациями имеющихся машин, несколькими новыми механиками. Пока это не тянет на отдельную игру и тем более mudrunner с его физикой. ка DLC может быть. Разработчикам конечно виднее, но я бы начал с подобного режима в сноураннер, в каком-то отдельном сезоне, благо я не думаю что они сильно перепиливали игровой движок ради той игры, а значит вероятнее всего она могла бы быть частью сноураннера. Посмотрели бы на реакцию пользователей, посмотрели бы как это можно развить, а потом уже развивали как отдельную ветвь игры. Тем более что фантазия у разработчиков сноураннер весьма изчерпалась - каждый новый сезон по сути мало чем кроме локаций отличается от предыдущего - те же миссии, те же грузы, разве что вспашка полей что-то новое. И есть немалая вероятность что ту игру ожидает то же самое. Хотя, безусловно я бы в нее поиграл, это выглядит свежо и интересно.
I'm still on PS4 console wise because 1. When I could afford the 500$ for a PS5, I was more concerned about real life stuff and 2. Now that I feel like they've done enough bug fixes for me to buy a PS5, I can't afford one. Also, I've had more opportunities to open my gaming laptop, then my PlayStation. So in conclusion, yes I'm glad they're still giving old consoles a space.
Thank you someone with a logical head on their shoulders. I mean half the player base is younger kids who can't afford a $500 console and yes somewhere adults who can afford a $500 console but rather buy food etc for their families so they can survive. Myself in general understand that the developers want to move on but they know a lot of Young generation and of course into the older generation still have PS4 and can't like TC say afford it even with saving. I've been trying since release to save for PS5 but everytime I turn around I gotta pay bill or feed myself. 👍
Overall I like this game but it should be an extended DLC for SnowRunner. It shouldn't be a separate title when SnowRunner is neglected and underdeveloped by developers. And if anyone thinks that SABER does not extort money from us, he is simply naive. The SpinTires and MudRunner series will not be revived with their politics.
Ngl, a bit disappointed about it being released on last gen as well, but totally understandable that it is. I had gotten an Xbox Series X for Christmas last year in hopes that most if not all of the new racing/vehicle games coming out in the coming months/years would be making full use of the more powerful consoles, (also because I really wanted to be able to play NFS Unbound at the time). The games I'm looking to get as of now are the new Forza Motorsport, The Crew Motorfest, and now Expeditions (whenever it comes out). Even by the time all these games are out it would only mean that 2/4 games on my Series X are truly "Next-gen exclusive" (even though Unbound doesn't really feel like it 💀). But to be optimistic, at least this means that Expeditions should have a really good FPS rate on the Series X lol, my One S really struggles to run Snowrunner well at times 😆
Its been 3yrs since the new consoles released. The last gen needs to b dropped. If u cant save money in that time thats ur problem. If u choose to not upgrade to new consoles then accept consequences that youll b left behind
My personal opinion is that still is too early to be making deep conclusions about it, it’s time to continue enjoying snowrunner and give devs the time to sharpen this upcoming release, they’re well aware of what’s most players have been asking to be added or fixed on SR so they should have a point and they own the best software for off-road trucking and driving simulation. It’s my pov.
What I think the developers are trying to do is make this game for all GEN consoles and new GEN consuls because the thing is there still a lot of people that are playing Olejen but there’s also people that are playing on new GEN two but like I’m pretty sure the developers wants to like keep that flow going and like try to make everybody happy and like not make a big fuss about it and everything but like I don’t know
That's what I was thinking when TC talked about all this is most of these players are young kids who are getting their console handed down to them because they're older sibling has bought a new console or whatever new gaming device and then some of us are just poor and can't afford $500. I've been trying to save up since release on the PS5 for that console but every time I turn around I have to spend that money.
I loved scouts in MR, but hated them in SR. There is no purpose for them, every small truck (Kodiak, Fleetstar, TUZ) is better in every single way. That makes me hesitant to get excited. But we'll just have to wait and see!
I don’t see the game lasting long if it’s only about exploring and not having to do any actually towing. That’s what made snowrunner slower to progress through is towing heavy thinks through mud. I could complete this game quickly if it’s only exploring
I know I'm supposed to have my own opinion but I share the same opinion as diesel does which I just got done watching his video and he says a lot about the game that I totally agree with. I'm glad that they're bringing the game to PS4 because still to this day since release can't afford a PS5. I also got what the developers want to do and that is move on. Your last subject comment I have to slightly disagree with you on because right now even though we don't know much it seems like it's just should have been a DLC or as farming similar does premium edition of the game. But I will change my mind once I see more gameplay from you or other UA-camrs or even the developers themselves, if I think the game should be given a chance.
I don't want it to be a scout only game but maybe thats the focus on this particular region they are showing, and I'm totally cool with that. Just don't completely drop the heavy cargo. At least this time it doesn't look like they are so stupid as to only put it on Epic for the first year.
I don't think a game has to look different to play different. I think the general mechanics and direction of the game look different enough to warrant it being its own game. I could be wrong on that as we haven't really seen much, but honestly I don't think saying that the game looks like snowrunner is a valid criticism.
BUt this one is singleplayer game so i think this will be a spin off. It is nice to see a things like build and manage your base. But in description on steam its seem there will not be a hevy trucks.
Man this game will only be available in one year at best.. success or failure maybe a little hard to determine right now. Like always, some poeple will love it, some people will hate, some people won't care, and other like me will wait with patience and curiosity. My only concern will be the let down of heavy hauling and big trucks despite what you say (only trucks we see are small trucks).. But wait and see... peace ;) ✌
@@TC9700Gaming Yes I know what you mean, looks like the KRS Bandit, Il love this truck, it is so funny to drive, agile and fast... I can drive it almost anywhere I want in Snowrunner. So for me this truck is my big scout 😅. I would consider it like the bigger of small trucks :).. But hey it's me. So if it's the biggest truck in the game, I continue to think there will be no big trucks at all (like Zikz, Derryl, Western Star 47, Twinsteer, things like that you know.)
I don't think we've seen enough to make a great judgement. The trailer seemed to focus on scouts, which is a bit worrying for the ones that want heavy hauling. I don't know about this yet, too early to say. I like the anchor and drone though. Just a quick question about something else, when do you think, if at all, we'll see ETS2 on consoles? That'll trigger a few people 😂
Nah it just looks like a scout version of snow runner and it looks too futuristic so I’m not gonna buy it when we have snowrunner (but snowrunners wheel support done broke). As much as I like the idea of a new game but having the same game with more to explore is not a good move. No hate.
If we weren't all waiting for them to fix the issues with snowrunner then this may have been more palatable. seem like this could of been added to snowrunner feels like greed.
lame they made it compatible with last gen. Either this is a snow runner xpack or they really killed the potential of the game by making it light enough last gen consoles can run it. It is holding the game back. you cant squeeze blood from a turnip..
Now this is something I can agree on Even though I am stuck on PS4 until next year. I don't think anyone would complain on PS4 about this idea, let's hope.
Hauling is in the first two games and kinda the theme of the game. I’m personally looking forward to this a lot Also not all of us can afford a new console
tbh they should just fix this game rather thatn creating a whole new one because what if it ends up like how snowrunner is now and makes the community hate them? then what do they just release another one? this does not solve the problem.
So are you going to literally tell that to a real poor person and a young child to move on to the next gen when they can't even afford a bike or the next meal if there are an adult or child.
tbh im sided with the guys who want it only new gen, man old gen should died 3 years ago yall got lucky studios still make games for a console from 2013 literally 10 years of games JUST LET THE INDUSTRY GROW for god sake
Need for speed did a similar "different gameplay" between the Playstation series the Xbox series and the Nintendo wii for the prostreet game I was disappointed what there were more "tracks or races" for the Xbox series. I'm a Playstation person through and through I've never owned an Xbox
Yes I’m going to play the new game on my Nintendo switch why I like my tenant tendo switch why I don’t have any on expedition I get more money in expedition then in snow runner
Feels more like a expansion than a new game. It's everything snowrunner isn't! There's a reason snowrunner kept as many players as it has! And this game what they showed is completely different from snowrunner and that's not a good thing honestly! Should have just called it scoutfest! It's a bunch of the same old scouts rock crawling over a long distance just trying to find different things! No big trucks. No big hauls. The things that made snowrunner special! And this lacks it all!!! And by the way they should have dropped the xbox one and went full gen because the visuals !rnt that much better like it should be
I don’t think it’s a failure, but I do believe it looks too much like Snowrunner currently. It may be because they haven’t gotten too far into it, which is understandable, but I would wait to drop a trailer until the game looks more unique
Probably like an alpha or beta thing, its better to perfect the functions of a game before making it look good. Same story with what people were saying about the September GTA 6 leaks.
@B0NES_YT Well, that was leaks and this is marketing material from developer. So you want to represent your product best as possible. I'm pretty sure that's how the game will look in the end. This is not new snowrunner game this is a spinoff in the series on the same game engine. Both games will be developed at the same time
@@mafia7787 there’s also all of the Cities Skylines 2 trailers and dev videos
If they keep developing Snowrunner in tandem I'm ok with it. It looks like a good addition to the franchise.
Ngl, if they replaced 90% of the hauling missions with more stuff for scouts to do, I'd be pretty happy. Hauling is an interesting challenge and the backbone of the franchise, but it gets tedious pretty quickly.
Scouting is the necessary evil, hauling is the real deal. Imo.
If it's just going to be a snowrunner spin-off without cargo hauling or any improvements then I'm not sure, but if it will be an improved game with better game mechanics then I think it will be a success.
And what most people forget: game developers always have SEVERAL games in development at once. These games are just in a different stages. And if the studio sticks to an engine (Unity, Unreal, .....) the games look pretty much similar. We'll wait and see what happens with this new entry... 😎🤟
Agreed!
So true
This is the first video we've seen people need to chill until the dev or publisher says something
Looks like this game is going to push alot more strategy into how we complete our objectives. Resources and the trucks we use will be limited as we attempt these missions, and failure will come at a cost, not just a "recover to garage" anymore. Along with resources we load onto our trucks, being beneficial and helping our progress will also cut down on our profits. I think this is a great foundation to improve the next "Snowrunner" game, since this is just a spinoff at this time.
Since we will have bigger tires on most of the vehicles i hope we will be able to air them down as like a new feature.
For someone that got into the runner series with Snowrunner, I'm looking forward to see what they add and improve to what we had in Snowrunner, many thing i really hope they improve is the physics and multi player connectivity
Here is how it feels like to me. The devs don’t care about the franchise and it’s origins. They have put out a visually impressive game with decreasingly reliable mechanic making gameplay more and more frustrating and nonsensical.
The devs probably went on mod Io, looked at the most popular and downloaded types of addons (sadly, mostly powerful scouts and trail riding maps) and determined this is what the player base wanted. Might be what a majority of the new player base enjoys, but they are gonna lose all the OG players who fell in love with Spintire/Mudrunner caus this new game…..has nothing to do with the essence of this franchise.
I want more of a trail riding game, with an expanded multiplayer experience (much larger lobbies) and a mod browser that actually works lol 😅 if expeditions ends up being that then I'll like it better than snowrunner
So I have recently revisited mudrunner and noticed how the game used to feel more realistic. You are driving a gigantic machiene throu the wild, punching it throu gigant rivers and deep swamp. Snowrunner on the other hand is more arcade style and has a more modern way of marketing (paid DLCs). I see this as a downpoint for snowrunner and decides that both games have their own good and bad. For me they are about the same.
So when I just heared that a new game is comming, I was really excited. However I see in the trailer that it could just be like a bigger dlc sold as a seperate game. Of course I hope it is not that, in fact we dont know much at all, but I am a bit worried that the whole game series is going down slowly, tourning an epic offroad experiance into a money maker that is full of skins and paid content.
To be clear I have not lost all hope, but I might be debating buying the game it it means I only get 1/10 of the offerd content after paying 'full price'
Also lets remember how snowrunner season 1 pass was marketed as "ALL upcomming content" but then they made smaller seperate dlcs and 2 more seasons
Also please say the game focusing on scouting does not mean I have to buy a new dlc daily because after I scouted the area its pretty much done
(I dont think its the case, but could be)
Also I might be overthinking this, but what if snowrunner never got desert like regions just so the new game has a straight up selling point. Why ia there no desert map in snowrunner, would be the first dlc I would buy next!
I’m happy to have a split of hauling and exploration and the point about previous gen is a great one. I almost wasn’t able to afford a ps5 and I got lucky. I’ve still got friends on old gen and playing games with them is such a blast so I’d be happy to see expeditions on current and previous gen
One thing I am hoping is that the last two dlc's of snowrunner aren't rushed because they are focusing more effort on expedition's
As long as the roads aren't made of dishwashing soap ill be happy :)
Well, I'm a runner and this is definitely on my list!!
Let's. Get. Running!
It'll definitely be an interesting one!
I like the new oversized tires size for the lada niva & uaz buhanka, but i'm kinda curious about where they are pointing with this, i got to see the game first but i don't know how you can base your game only in expeditions, if that's what you do in every new map in snowrunner
I still run Snowrunner on my One X when my Halo Infinite Edition Series X is updating. The One X runs Snowrunner smooth as silk. However, I can truly see dropping OG One and PS4 support because they hardly even run games made in 2023 for cross platforms without noticeable issues. To make this easier to understand; I ran Halo Infinite on my 2013 Launch Team Edition Xbox One and I could tell a big difference in performance when I played it on my Halo Infinite Edition Series X a few hours later.
They need to add manual gearboxes!
Yessss!
That anchor is for when you don't have anywhere to attach your winch
Definitely looking forward to Expeditions looks a good evolution of the game.
Ppl were saying snowrunner should have been a mudrunner dlc, then we actually got our hands on it an realized it was a truly new game, engine, physics ect, let's wait till we get more info about expeditions before breaking out the pitchforks an torches
The unique real deal between older and newer consoles is about graphics and not about gameplay, for this reason retrogammers can enjoy to play old games.
I’d be ok with it being scout based, but I would hope for some new vehicles and not just a bunch carried over from snow runner.
Hi TC, I'm one who has a ps4 and I can't afford a ps5, we are working on a budget, and things are tight. I love snowrunner and I play it almost every day.
Hey another person with a logical head on their shoulders.
Yes I get that it's how many already months and almost a year into the PS5 lifespan but it is hard to afford a PS5 when you're on a budget.
Bill's before entertainment.
You also got to think of the younger children who don't have any money and only get a small allowance every month and get their console handed down from their older brother or sister.
I feel like we’re gonna be unsure at first, but then love it.
They should drop the old gen consoles we’re three years in to the current gen consoles right now look I get there is still a lot of people on last gen but it’s time to drop the old consoles if you want to make your game as impressive as possible. I’m not blaming anyone who can’t afford, or doesn’t want to buy a next gen console but we who have bought current gen consoles need a way to justify the purchase and games come not looking visually impressive then the purchase is harder to justify
By now we should be getting games that truly show wha the current gen of consoles is capable of but by keeping las gen in mind we can’t really get those games
As for the game looking like a dlc for Snowrunner it’s a valid point, the trucks the show off outside of one are the same trucks as in Snowrunner, the addons are nothing we haven’t seen from from the moddin community. The scenery looks unchanged from last game all that doesn’t scream new game to me
They couldn’t even be bothered to come up with new fantasy brands or get new licenses to real life vehicles? Come on that’s laziness it’s like they went “I’m tire of this so I’m just gonna port trucks from our last title, no one’ll notice” we we did
as long as keep doing both in tandem, cant wait i;m 71 and love snowrunner on my xbox one
Something I’ve always noticed that’s off with gravity physics because it looks more like driving on the moon. Way too much air time.
I wish it wouldn't be on PS4 / XBOX ONE... this will cripple this game... can we already forget the last gen and finally move on...
Надеюсь не забросят первоначальную идею игры с грузоперевозками, экспедиция это круто но не тянет на отдельную игру. Я фанат всей серии бегунов но то что я увидел в этом трейлере меня если честно озадачило.😮
I hope they will not abandon the original idea of the game with cargo transportation, the expedition is cool, but it does not pull for a separate game. I'm a fan of the entire series of runners, but what I saw in this trailer honestly puzzled me.😮
Put a mudrunner name doesn’t mean it stands to the mudrunner physics level
Listen i get it with the old gen argument … but honestly it’s really about time we get a full next gen games with using the next gen hardware to its potential we have yet to have next gen exclusives but a small few just because devs dont want to leave old gen behind …. Back in the day when a new game console came out and you wanted to play that new game . You had to upgrade lol …. When GTA3 came out for ps2 what did we all do if we wanted to play gta ??
For sure! Like I get people being upset about having to buy a new console but at the same time I feel like it’s worth the upgrade so you’ll get to enjoy better built games!
@@TC9700Gaming yeah its about that time LOL i mean we are already starting to hear about the next consoles coming out with pro models and so on . Anyways always enjoy your content keep up the good work been following since spintires , i found the game from you all those years ago !!!
So like I've been repeating to a few other people you're going to tell someone that got their console handed down to them to go out and buy a new console especially if it's a seven-year-old.
Most people don't have $1,000 lying around.
@@hoodedfarmer new consoles arnt 1,000 bucks . And yea time to upgrade cant hold back technology for a few ppl that “cant afford it” And a 7 year old doesn’t even need to be playing on new tech give them a n64 and they will be happy lol. ppl that dont have a new the new consoles can play snow runner until they can upgrade very simple . What so are we supposed to stop all technological progress just because so may not be able to upgrade , nothing else in the world works like this
Looks like that Anchor is nice feature for those spots we're you have nothing to winch too.
To me it’s not about what you are doing. Hauling/exploring is part of all the games. what it feels like is a step to the side not up. adding new features, trucks, UI. doesn’t make it a new game. It needs a graphics overall. i’ll say this till i’m blue in the face. haha. UE5 is what this game needs. Driving the most realistic trucks in a map that is real looking as starring out the window.
1. UE5 upgrade
2. ability to get out of your truck and walk around it, manually hook winches, get in another truck etc.
3. real world trucks made to scale, stats, weight, fuel, power and look.
4. upgrades shown in trailer
5. environment changes when competing tasks. not just a bridge/building.
6. ability to build garage anywhere
Heya TC. Long time since I commented on a video even though I watched them. But looking at the videos of this trailer is the Snorkels missing on these vehicles or is it me. Maybe I overlooked the snorkels on the videos? It looks like a good game otherwise.
I may be way off base, but I think a new game being made for PS4/XB1 and Switch tells us a lot about how limited the game will be compared to "what is possible".
This game also looks right now to be a lot like Subnautica vs Subnautica Below Zero. But I hate to fully judge based on one under 2 min video.
Yeah I'm gonna wait until we see more gameplay until I really formulate my thoughts about the game
Не буду слишком категоричным, но пока это похоже на модифицированный сноураннер в виде миссий с небольшими модификациями имеющихся машин, несколькими новыми механиками. Пока это не тянет на отдельную игру и тем более mudrunner с его физикой. ка DLC может быть. Разработчикам конечно виднее, но я бы начал с подобного режима в сноураннер, в каком-то отдельном сезоне, благо я не думаю что они сильно перепиливали игровой движок ради той игры, а значит вероятнее всего она могла бы быть частью сноураннера. Посмотрели бы на реакцию пользователей, посмотрели бы как это можно развить, а потом уже развивали как отдельную ветвь игры. Тем более что фантазия у разработчиков сноураннер весьма изчерпалась - каждый новый сезон по сути мало чем кроме локаций отличается от предыдущего - те же миссии, те же грузы, разве что вспашка полей что-то новое. И есть немалая вероятность что ту игру ожидает то же самое. Хотя, безусловно я бы в нее поиграл, это выглядит свежо и интересно.
I'm still on PS4 console wise because 1. When I could afford the 500$ for a PS5, I was more concerned about real life stuff and 2. Now that I feel like they've done enough bug fixes for me to buy a PS5, I can't afford one. Also, I've had more opportunities to open my gaming laptop, then my PlayStation. So in conclusion, yes I'm glad they're still giving old consoles a space.
Thank you someone with a logical head on their shoulders.
I mean half the player base is younger kids who can't afford a $500 console and yes somewhere adults who can afford a $500 console but rather buy food etc for their families so they can survive.
Myself in general understand that the developers want to move on but they know a lot of Young generation and of course into the older generation still have PS4 and can't like TC say afford it even with saving.
I've been trying since release to save for PS5 but everytime I turn around I gotta pay bill or feed myself. 👍
@@hoodedfarmer same boat my friend. It's hard enough to get by. Hmm .. pay rent or buy a PS5? Lol I think I'll pay rent!
"Success or Failure?"
Let the game release first.
when you said it was on PS4 I was so excited
Overall I like this game but it should be an extended DLC for SnowRunner. It shouldn't be a separate title when SnowRunner is neglected and underdeveloped by developers. And if anyone thinks that SABER does not extort money from us, he is simply naive. The SpinTires and MudRunner series will not be revived with their politics.
Ngl, a bit disappointed about it being released on last gen as well, but totally understandable that it is. I had gotten an Xbox Series X for Christmas last year in hopes that most if not all of the new racing/vehicle games coming out in the coming months/years would be making full use of the more powerful consoles, (also because I really wanted to be able to play NFS Unbound at the time). The games I'm looking to get as of now are the new Forza Motorsport, The Crew Motorfest, and now Expeditions (whenever it comes out). Even by the time all these games are out it would only mean that 2/4 games on my Series X are truly "Next-gen exclusive" (even though Unbound doesn't really feel like it 💀). But to be optimistic, at least this means that Expeditions should have a really good FPS rate on the Series X lol, my One S really struggles to run Snowrunner well at times 😆
Its been 3yrs since the new consoles released. The last gen needs to b dropped. If u cant save money in that time thats ur problem. If u choose to not upgrade to new consoles then accept consequences that youll b left behind
Snowrunner graphics are peak there is no need to change em. I ain’t trying to get blinded by a virtual sun.
😂 well if friends using Excalibur yeah you might be blinded by the visual sun that is excalibur's lights made by dieselsaddicti.
My personal opinion is that still is too early to be making deep conclusions about it, it’s time to continue enjoying snowrunner and give devs the time to sharpen this upcoming release, they’re well aware of what’s most players have been asking to be added or fixed on SR so they should have a point and they own the best software for off-road trucking and driving simulation. It’s my pov.
I'm quite excited for it
With the binoculars does that mean you can get out of vehicle
No it's most likely it's going to be through the drone that we're going to get.
Mods on this game will be interesting, I just hope the likes of John John, iceberg and Rng3r will make mods/import from snowrunner
What I think the developers are trying to do is make this game for all GEN consoles and new GEN consuls because the thing is there still a lot of people that are playing Olejen but there’s also people that are playing on new GEN two but like I’m pretty sure the developers wants to like keep that flow going and like try to make everybody happy and like not make a big fuss about it and everything but like I don’t know
That's what I was thinking when TC talked about all this is most of these players are young kids who are getting their console handed down to them because they're older sibling has bought a new console or whatever new gaming device and then some of us are just poor and can't afford $500.
I've been trying to save up since release on the PS5 for that console but every time I turn around I have to spend that money.
I loved scouts in MR, but hated them in SR. There is no purpose for them, every small truck (Kodiak, Fleetstar, TUZ) is better in every single way. That makes me hesitant to get excited. But we'll just have to wait and see!
This game is going to be a success
I never play Snowrunner so this looks fun to me, the gaming community just likes to be mad about any and everything fun left years ago for drama.
I don’t see the game lasting long if it’s only about exploring and not having to do any actually towing. That’s what made snowrunner slower to progress through is towing heavy thinks through mud. I could complete this game quickly if it’s only exploring
Man they should put a jeep comanche in the game
I have a feeling you will be able to port your current vehicles over to the new game by how it looks
I wonder if it will have the OG vehicles from mudrunner and also, I wonder if it will probably have season passes just like snowrunner
So glad this game is on Old gen consoles lol
If you actually look on the frame of the small truck to the left you can faintly see a fifth wheel
and i might get flamed but im excited that it will still be on an older console
If they put a mod browser kind of like snowrunner I would be so happy
Id buy it but only if it has mods do you know if it does?
I know I'm supposed to have my own opinion but I share the same opinion as diesel does which I just got done watching his video and he says a lot about the game that I totally agree with.
I'm glad that they're bringing the game to PS4 because still to this day since release can't afford a PS5.
I also got what the developers want to do and that is move on.
Your last subject comment I have to slightly disagree with you on because right now even though we don't know much it seems like it's just should have been a DLC or as farming similar does premium edition of the game.
But I will change my mind once I see more gameplay from you or other UA-camrs or even the developers themselves, if I think the game should be given a chance.
I'm curious how scouts and heavy duty trucks will work together in expeditions?
Me too!
What is the game being played while you talk?
I don't want it to be a scout only game but maybe thats the focus on this particular region they are showing, and I'm totally cool with that. Just don't completely drop the heavy cargo. At least this time it doesn't look like they are so stupid as to only put it on Epic for the first year.
I will wait for a real Snowrunner successor.
I don't think a game has to look different to play different. I think the general mechanics and direction of the game look different enough to warrant it being its own game. I could be wrong on that as we haven't really seen much, but honestly I don't think saying that the game looks like snowrunner is a valid criticism.
off topic: I still wish Forza Horizon would stop taking to 88 IROCZ and adding it back
BUt this one is singleplayer game so i think this will be a spin off. It is nice to see a things like build and manage your base. But in description on steam its seem there will not be a hevy trucks.
Good as a spinoff, terrible as sequel, if Saber decides to leave Snowrunner for Expeditions
It's a spinoff, both games will be developed at the same time
Man this game will only be available in one year at best.. success or failure maybe a little hard to determine right now. Like always, some poeple will love it, some people will hate, some people won't care, and other like me will wait with patience and curiosity.
My only concern will be the let down of heavy hauling and big trucks despite what you say (only trucks we see are small trucks).. But wait and see... peace ;) ✌
What about the 8x8 we see in the camp though? I would hardly call that a small truck ;)
@@TC9700Gaming Yes I know what you mean, looks like the KRS Bandit, Il love this truck, it is so funny to drive, agile and fast... I can drive it almost anywhere I want in Snowrunner. So for me this truck is my big scout 😅. I would consider it like the bigger of small trucks :).. But hey it's me.
So if it's the biggest truck in the game, I continue to think there will be no big trucks at all (like Zikz, Derryl, Western Star 47, Twinsteer, things like that you know.)
Is it gonna be available for consoles
I don't think we've seen enough to make a great judgement. The trailer seemed to focus on scouts, which is a bit worrying for the ones that want heavy hauling. I don't know about this yet, too early to say. I like the anchor and drone though. Just a quick question about something else, when do you think, if at all, we'll see ETS2 on consoles? That'll trigger a few people 😂
Game will be DoA if just scouts.
I think they should implement something like FH5s performance and quality mode in the settings
Nah it just looks like a scout version of snow runner and it looks too futuristic so I’m not gonna buy it when we have snowrunner (but snowrunners wheel support done broke). As much as I like the idea of a new game but having the same game with more to explore is not a good move. No hate.
You should do a live stream on snowrunner season 10
If it doesn’t have a Proper Clutch and Manual transmission…. Well
If we weren't all waiting for them to fix the issues with snowrunner then this may have been more palatable. seem like this could of been added to snowrunner feels like greed.
lame they made it compatible with last gen. Either this is a snow runner xpack or they really killed the potential of the game by making it light enough last gen consoles can run it. It is holding the game back. you cant squeeze blood from a turnip..
As far as the difference between the consoles they could bring out a texture dlc pack that give the new generation consoles the better graphics
Now this is something I can agree on Even though I am stuck on PS4 until next year.
I don't think anyone would complain on PS4 about this idea, let's hope.
i hope people realise how important TC is
Not sure how to rate it as a success or fail since it's not even a released game yet.
Hauling is in the first two games and kinda the theme of the game. I’m personally looking forward to this a lot
Also not all of us can afford a new console
the audacity some people said ps4 is pretty much shit. the one he said it. some people aren't rich. people who say that are just sad little men.
What a fail. Its just snowrunner XD
I'm reserving my thoughts on that until I actually play it. Crossing my fingers that it's more than just SR with a few new textures though.
tbh they should just fix this game rather thatn creating a whole new one because what if it ends up like how snowrunner is now and makes the community hate them? then what do they just release another one? this does not solve the problem.
Hope it's got Manuel transmission
Nah old gen console need to go. Push out the poor. So games can make that next jump
So are you going to literally tell that to a real poor person and a young child to move on to the next gen when they can't even afford a bike or the next meal if there are an adult or child.
Is the cat 770g git in
I don't find it as a spinoff. after all, mudrunner looks the exact same as snowrunner
No not really, and mudrunner was a way different game this one just looks like a slight update of snowrunner lol
tbh im sided with the guys who want it only new gen, man old gen should died 3 years ago yall got lucky studios still make games for a console from 2013 literally 10 years of games JUST LET THE INDUSTRY GROW for god sake
Need for speed did a similar "different gameplay" between the Playstation series the Xbox series and the Nintendo wii for the prostreet game I was disappointed what there were more "tracks or races" for the Xbox series. I'm a Playstation person through and through I've never owned an Xbox
Yes I’m going to play the new game on my Nintendo switch why I like my tenant tendo switch why I don’t have any on expedition I get more money in expedition then in snow runner
Feels more like a expansion than a new game. It's everything snowrunner isn't! There's a reason snowrunner kept as many players as it has! And this game what they showed is completely different from snowrunner and that's not a good thing honestly! Should have just called it scoutfest! It's a bunch of the same old scouts rock crawling over a long distance just trying to find different things! No big trucks. No big hauls. The things that made snowrunner special! And this lacks it all!!! And by the way they should have dropped the xbox one and went full gen because the visuals !rnt that much better like it should be
They truly need to run a newer enginr for this game but unfortunately it looks the same
What about snowrunner 2?
THERES A BREAKING BAD REFERENCE LMAOOOO!
YUP! XD
@@TC9700Gaming TC I AM THE ONE WHO LIFTS A TRUCK ON FORCES AND OFFROADS IT!
Hi, i like digesting
i have ptsd just luking at the mud, fuck this game... is sadomasoquism