Strange audio sync issue aside, that was a nice little comparison piece. I feel like there was a trend through the late 00's where PSU manufacturers were including better and better cables with their units. That all seemed to die out when extensions started to get popular and they all figured that they could make more money by selling their own cable kits separately. About the best you can hope for now are flat black cables, sleeved if you're lucky. I can't help but think that this is also the reason that we still don't have a standard for the PSU-side connectors, they all want you to buy their own 1st-party cable kits... Just like I did with my Corsair cable kit. If I had a do-over I'd go for a custom kit from CableMod, get just the cables I need in the lengths I need them and the colour I want.
I’ve got cable extensions and nine fans, which each have a 3 foot power and rgb cable. Between the 54 feet of fan cables and extension junk, I’ve decided the back of my case is just going to have to be a birds nest
In the video, you mentioned the stock cables pigtailing into two not being an issue. On my 6900xt and SF750 PSU, I ran into an issue with the power supply tripping at stock GPU settings. Switching to one cable per 8 pin, rather than pigtailing off fixed the issue. I'm not trying to cast shade, just thought you'd find it interesting. I think it's always better to run individual power cables to each GPU port the PSU has the outputs for it.
yea from my understanding it mostly because of cable gauge or the output of the specific rails that people suggest running 2 separate cables both reasons make sense to me so when i can i run 2 cables.
It's only a function of wire gauge. Somehow your car's 12V battery (incidentally what EPS and PEG carries) can do 1000A over a single wire (unless you're American and never had a diesel car ;)) The MINIMUM rating for an 8-pin EPS is 384W aka 32A (you don't need to plug anything in the 4-pin; Jeff knows this, but the video is about looks, so it had to be plugged). GPUs are allowed exactly 12.5A per 8-pin PEG (which has 3 wires for power for whatever reason). Whole GPU is theoretically limited to 2 8-pins (2*12.5A = 25A, 300W) + PCIe slot power (75W). Think about it: the EPS 8-pin does 384W per the standard, and most mid-range motherboards install a 500-something rated socket instead of a cheap 384W one. Each and every PSU has to have wires capable of the standard 8A/wire (and it's actually the law). A GPU is limited to pulling 300W from 2*8-pin PEG. Again, 8-pin PEG is 3 wires for power, so even if you feed a single GPU with a split cable, that's 100W per wire, aka... 8.3A. Again: actual law requires wire gauge for the PSU cables to handle 8A for EPS cables. It's cheaper to use the same wire gauge for EPS and PEG. PEG needs 4A normally, but 8,3A per wire if you use a single cable splitting into 2*8 at the end. Unless you buy your PSU cables from AliExpress, you're getting AT LEAST 18 AWG wire, nominal 10A per wire. Unless your PSU is also from AliExpress, with this wire gauge it will handle a 3090 on a single split cable and still be within spec.
ive used several different brands of kits. currently, im running a pair of CableMod Pro extension kits in brown, they match my 18 noctua fans nicely. i got 2x 24 pin, 2x 4 pin eps, 2x 8 pin eps, and 4x 8 pin pcie for my dual full atx tower (corsair 900D heavily modded). shipped, it was a tad under 300 US dollars in early 2021, and they were custom made for me, because very few people order the brown. my case has a giant basement, even with 2 850W seasonic psus in it, so the management is clean and simple.
I've been a big fan of your videos from racks to servers to desktops. Got a lot of great ideas, this video just solved my problem for power supply cables, my friend sent me an EVGA 1200W power supply but it didn't have cables, going with the Cablemod cables. I'm doing a Lian Li DK-05 desk build with dual MSI Godlike, 5950 and 3090. To compliment it, I bought a Netshelter CX 24u more or less with what you've had in videos for your network.
While i applaud the effort, I am completely opposite when I build, I prefer a closed case with no clear window and no rgb, and preferably as low noise as can be :)
Exactly. Does it boot? Are temps good? Good enough. Only reason I ended up getting CableMod cables are when I went ITX. I needed some shorter cables than even SFX units come with.
Love the content but this is the third craft computing video I've watched that was released recently, within the last two weeks, where the audio has drifted out of sync with Jeff's lips. Starts out great but within the first couple minutes it's at least 1 second drift. Anyone else noticing this?
Personally, I like the look of a solid steel case. For the price of that RGB and spiffy cable set, I'd rather bump up the performance a notch or two. The only thing you can see of my PC is the front.
I’ve used cablemod extensions for a few years now. I never had any issues until recently. I started getting annoying black screens while the GPU was under heavy load. I was worried about the GPU or PSU being bad, but after eliminating what I could, I tried to remove my cablemod extensions. Turns out that fixed the issue. I’m gonna try the set made for my PSU instead and hopefully we don’t have issues.
If I remember correctly from Jayz video what they brought up is the power that an PSU can deliver per rail. So an pigtail cable will not be able to provide as much power as two different cables from different rails. And the gpu that Jay used has a much lower power draw than an 6900xt.
I went with custom CableMod extensions with the Alluminum combs and bridged PCIe cables (each combs bridges the 8 and 6 pin cables (2070s)) super clean look.
i might be alone here, but the cable combs bug me. they look like a necessary guiding like when the look would be so much cleaner, without them. but when it comes to these kinds of cables, the problem is, that both side or the row, have the same length. this makes them even, when the whole cable is straight, but inside the pc, the cable with have a 90 degree or 180 degree bend, making them squish into each other
"Back in my days" we used to sleeve cables ourselves. It's interesting to see that buying these pre sleeved kits is still nothing more than a shortcut and always comes with downsides.
Man, I still own a Molex connector and some other power supply plug remover tool. I can't believe how much time I used to put into stuff like this before it was cool.
A critique suggest for future editing of a similarly styled video. Instead of filming your up-close shots and showing them all in a row, and then doing your desk comparison, interweave the two. This might be difficult for editing. And I understand that you would film it in the style because it's easier. However, it makes it easier to follow and to show the benefits and the drawbacks of each cable.
Regarding using same rail for both GPU power connections - it costed me a fried PSU and motherboard at the beginning of this year. I think it is better to be safe than sorry and use two cables instead. PSU was Seasonic Gold 750W + and GPU was freshly bought Gigabyte 3080 OC Vision. Luckily I was reimbursed for PSU and motherboard was repaired at the end, but overall it was not fun experience.
I've used CableMod cables once (EVGA 1000 P2) and some Chinese Amazon extensions twice. TBH, if one desires custom looking cables, the Chinese extensions are a freaking bargain at roughly 1/4 the price of CableMod and included combs as I recall. I've always said GPU makers should allow for the 7th and 8th pins to "plug in" (actually just sort of rest) in a blank spot on cards that use just a six-pin so they don't have to be left hanging out in space. With a set of custom cables or extensions it's much less of a thing. In truth, my next build (assuming there are ever parts at reasonable prices again) will be in a case with no window.
I don't know about the OP, however I have had massive,1-2V voltage drop from extensions, full sets or nothing for me too, voltage drop means resistance, resistance means potential for excess heat, if I let it get too bad could have been a possible fire... Not a risk I'm willing to take with a pc that's nice enough to warrant custom cables
@@PolntBlank just extensions. Just random blue screens, under different loads, different times, different settings from undervolt, overclock, stock settings, ram, motherboards (5 in total) an upgrade to a 3800x, cpu coolers, thermal paste. nothing made sense. i had an intel system before with the same PSU and extensions. never any issues, i was able to OC my 6700k to 4.9Ghz with them, and OC my gpu. was thinking about it the other day and almost slapped myself for not noticing before that it had happened when i switched from intel to AMD that it started. figured it would hurt to pull the extensions. been 3 weeks with all my best hardware reassembled just with the stock psu cables installed without crashing..... TLDR; i am dumb, dont be me. sometimes its the obvious things. make sure when you go back to "stock" you pull the extensions. a $30 amazon kit cost me a couple grand chasing
@@Sharky5421 I didn't use a multimeter either, had a high end sabertooth board that displayed my voltages in the bios and software, as soon as I removed the extensions the v-drop was gone all voltages were perfect
I'm amazed by all this. I've never had a computer case with see-through panels or lights in there so hadn't even considered the asthetics of the cable management. I certainly wouldn't want to spend a great deal to do anything other than get the right power to the right places. And my computers tend to be kept in cupboards out of sight. But it was interesting to see a different approach.
I got the cable mod pro cables in black for the same case. They worked well bar the 24 pin as I have an X570 aorus extreme and that has a side mounted cable. I will get the dremel out at some point to make it better.
i have cablemod extensions on order :) I chose extensions because I need them for example for my eps connections I cant connect or disconnect them when the cpu cooler is in and this way I dont have to I can just unplug it on the back and take the Board out or what ever
Here's my two cents, if you have a case with a exposed psu nothing beats the look of custom cables however most cases now a days have a basement hiding the psu so at that point it doesn't matter what you use. I personally prefer the exposed psu look with each wire in a custom cable ziptied in groups of four wires neatly routing to the back of the motherboard tray.
The only time I have ever used any sort of individually sleaved cable extenders was during a build where I needed a longer EPS cable and 24 pin cable to reach the top of the system and I was not able to buy just a plain extender locally and had to spend extra money on a stupid individually sleeved set. I have built hundreds of systems in my life and I have always thought see-thru or tempered glass side panels are a waste of money. They make the case heavier and easier to break and reduce the possible airflow. These days it's far more likely that the case is going to be squirreled away under a desk or behind a monitor where no one is going to see it. If only the PC parts makers would go to straight 12V PSUs and have a single power connector with 6 or 8 AWG cables and a few signal wires to supply power to the mainboard and peripherals and eliminate all the cables and multi-voltage rails running everywhere.
I bought cable extensions, for price more than anything else. I will say the power supply area is a bit messy, but it does look great in the front with my build.
I am thinking about cable extensions. I have plenty of room in the basement to hide the extra and I just can’t bring myself to pay $100 or more on custom cables. Would rather put the extra into performance at this point.
You didn't mention that with CableMod cables you can get a SINGLE 8+4 EPS cable and a SINGLE 8+6, 8+8, 8+8+8 PCIe cables which are technically not a single cable but are multiple cables that share a single cable comb that make it look like one cable and also make the cables look significantly cleaner since if you have multiple cables next to each other the cable combs are not lined up properly and it hurts some people's OCD and the cables can be too far or too close to each other
Two things to note - don't run a single cable to a 2 connector GPU - stock cables are 18 AWG and you will be running close to their rated capacity on anything top end. Also - you don't need to use the extra 4 pin EPS with a standard consumer CPU unless you're overclocking on LN2 with insane levels of current - 8 pin EPS provides 240 odd watts, so anything non HEDT is more than fine with the 8 pin.
Wait wdym about the gpu cable thing? I just bought 2 pcie cablemod cables for my 3070 with the intent of plugging both single cables into my psu then into the gpu
I probably would just buy black flexible cable tubes and run all wires through that all black and sleek looking and way way cheaper makes routing the cables much easier too
Not having to deal with extensions is not a convenience... is a matter of not introducing longer length of cable between psu and device plus point of contact and those two negatively reflect on the quality of power delivery.
When I redid my build I was thinking about Cable Mod, but chose to man up and order all the parts to make my own. Three days later and a lot of cursing I turned out some awesome cables that I was very proud of and came in several dollars under Cable Mod's price. I can live with that. 😎
I did this *once* - ordered the sleeving in two colors, the combs, crimper, connectors, and a spool, had my trusty multimeter ready for action. Honestly, it was an exciting project, at least throughout the planning and purchasing phases. By about the 8th out of 24 atx power cables, I realized that the only reason I was going to complete this was sheer stubborn cheapskatedness on my part - I'd already purchased everything I'd needed for it, and wasnt going to let it go to waste. So, I settled in for hours of tedium to follow, until they were finally finished. I felt no sense of satisfaction, even though to this day it's the best looking overall system I'd ever put together. If one can afford them, I'd instead just recommend going cable-mod - your time gaming is worth more than the $80-100 you'll save between the two. If they're outside your price range though? Or if you just dont have any other projects going on (who has no other projects!?) and love doing them? Go for it.
I got enuff RGB that i could care less about my cables. I have a white set of Corsair stock cables in my white Phanteks Eclipse P 360 A and im mostly happy with how they look except for the PCIe cables. Other than that im happy with my overall build aesthetic.
Extensions arent fun, they add sooo much more cable mess to deal with. The other two sets you got are direct replacement cables for the ones that came with your PSU. EVGA cables are just too thin for me, I have a set and while they can look good they are not great.
So in short, yes, they're worth it, but it depends on your budget and what your individual system requires. Because the back panel of my case is solid metal, extenders all the way for both looks and value. If you have a tempered or acrylic glass back panel, maybe full replacements are more up your alley, but get ready to spend more too.
Can you use a hairdryer to warm the cables before you train them? Just push them to say 40°c (hot bath temp) to 60°c (discomfort for 1sec touch without gloves) to make them temporarily more bendy.
The one thing I hate about cable mod cables is if I need just $20 worth of cables say like two or three cables that are fully sleeved non-extension cables, I have to order $100 worth of stuff or I can't get my order in, because of the flat rate shipping stuff they do, and I'm not a very good person to ask how that works because I have no clue I just know that because of where I live I have to at minimum purchase like $120 worth of cables and other variable amounts of stuff... **Edit** I know that particular tidbit after finding that I need extra cables because my power supply cables that came with my power supply were the wrong type of cables... How you can buy a brand new motherboard these days, and then go to Best buy or online or anywhere and buy a standard power supply only to find that it has a 4 + 4 pin connector that is designed to form an eight pin when combined, but will not fit inside an eight pin connector on the motherboard, well, it's something that I just don't understand... And yet, if I get something like an 8 + 4 plug then the eight pin fits just fine usually...
I've recently installed cablemod extensions in my pc and I've felt it in my hands for days... I commend you for doing this multiple times like this! On the other hand... are you mad!? 😂
The mistake I made was going with a black/red theme initially with Cable Mod and then wanting to change to just black. Purchased a second set and now have one that I won’t use again.
First of all, Jeff, thank you for the immense amount of time investment and cable routing hell that you put into this video. I've never purchased cable extensions or a different set of cables for any power supply. If I did, it would be extensions, as I can't justify spending nearly the same amount on cabling as I did on the supply in the first place.
Another option which is "affordable" is to hand sleeve each cable. There are several guides on youtube. The only tools you need are a pin removal tool, a bic lighter, shrink wrap, and the polyethylene sleeving. I will never do it again.
Keep in mind cablemod doesn't make kits for every power supply! I wanted to get shorter cables for my ITX build but couldn't :( Also it's pretty easy to bundle PSU cables in the 'basement'. You should invest in some velcro cable ties.
I used the black Micro Connectors Premium Sleeved PSU Cable Extension Kit. I had to use extensions in my Define 7 XL case. They were decent for $30 from Microcenter.
I only buy them when they have a sale going on or if I get an ASUS motherboard since ALL ASUS motherboards come with CableMod vouchers since they are partner ed with each other and I currently have 2 spare ones one of which I will use when I can get a new RTX GPU when I can finally get my hands on one. (CableMod vouchers that come with ASUS MOBO's have no expiry date as far as I am aware and I got one with a motherboard I RMA'd a couple months ago when I built my current PC and kept the voucher when I sent the MOBO back to Amazon and the 2nd one I got with my current MOBO (I already had a voucher that I used for the custom cables on my build which I got for free because around a year and half ago when I used to work in a charity shop some dude donated a crappy MOBO with a CPU inside it worth like $5 but he donated it in a high end ASUS MOBO box as a joke that was for a MOBO worth like $300+ and it had all the accessories and paperwork that came with the box (me and a friend who also worked there who are PC gamers both thought we got some high end MOBO that we may keep or split the cash on since a lot of stuff people donated we end up not selling due to laws and rules and regulations since the item may be missing safety stickers and sometimes for electrical items it can be that it is damaged or untestable using the testing equipment at the store and therefore either too expensive to test since the payback would be little or it would be illegal to sell. I even got a decent comfortable computer chair for free and a Bluetooth Keyboard and I got an Xbox One controller and a pair of brand new Philips brand wall lights all of which were worth a fair bit of money
Hint on colors for extensions: if you get a Molex minfit Jr. Pin removal tool you can extract the pins from the cable and reorder. Only use the official Molex tool, which is a little pricey, as the others are made from inferior materials.
After the "does it work" feature, appearance is a long way down the list, and I am not willing to pay much at all for appearance. I also prefer solid cases without RGB.
I have always used the stock cables that come with the power supply. It is usually not a perfect experience, but a folks I've built machines for don't want to pay the extra money for the good cables.
Theres basically no difference between any of them, even the extensions (as long as the connection is solid). I'd tested them out of curiosity the first time I purchased cable-mod's stuff to replace seasonic stock ones, after trying a set of extensions. Theres just not enough length there at the awg the cables are to allow for much resistance change, and the copper used seems to be of similar quality even if differently stranded.
With my case, at least 1 extention was necessary for cable management, my 8 pin was a good 6 inches to short to route it behind the motherboard, and the only option was to stretch it over the motherboard.
I use cable extensions.. I got mine from Formula Modz for about 30-40 dollars.. and they are very nice.. I can't justify $100 plus for cables or extensions... the price to quality/ performance just does not add up to me..
I have a generic set of extensions, but have been thinking of a custom set. You have kinda nudged me closer to that as I now have the Cablemod PRO set for my PSU in my Amazon cart.
Before checking out, if it is not too late, go to cable mods site. You might get a better deal ordering directly, and you can fully customize it, colors and lengths. It will ship from Bahrain, so be patient.
I got a rog Thor 1200W from Facebook market place and I’ve been regretting it sadly it didn’t come with the power cord it’s missing the motherboard cable my question is can I replace cables and is there any info I should know about if I can replace cables
I have made my own cables for a few builds. I suggest cablemod. It's worth the savings in time. Yes, it cost money, but unless you are very skilled, it is less than minimum wage for your own time. Edit: cablemod allows you to customize length too, if you really want to spend the big money. So worth it for show builds.
I have a question and really late question but would these cable be Compatible with strimmer plus v2 or am I out of luck? My psu is evea supernova G6 gold
Extensions are designed for all power supplies. You only need to pay attention to brand/model if doing a full replacement of your modular cables. Make sense?
I HATE PIG TAILS. I have a 1080 ti hooked to my Corsair rm750x psu. And I kept getting random blue even when I undervolt my system and ran it stock. I tried tons of different things and nothing worked until I ran two separate pcie cables to my gpu and I never got a blue screen again.
When I used a single PCIe cable for my 3070 with the double pigtail I got stupidly loud coil whine even on idle. Installing the two dedicated cables and it was completely gone.
I'm all about the money. Over $100 for a kit of cables that already come with the power supply is not something I really care about. I guess when you make tons of money you have money to burn.
I have built many systems, but have never really considered custom cables. $100 is often enough to increase SSD size, or add more ram, or or even step up to a nicer CPU/GPU. I really struggle to see the desire of these kinds of cables for anything but show builds or builds with absolutely no budget. Additionally, with Gamer's Nexus findings of power delivery failures of PCI-e risers from reputable brands: I would never consider buying extension cables from a no-name Amazon brand. Especially as modern GPUs begin to push power demands on these cables, cheap cables do not have the same validations as those included with the PSU.
Good points on power extensions and the risks. However, realistically, extending a minfit Jr. Connection is almost always going to be fine, provided the wires are 18 AWG and the pins are Molex brand. The areas of risk are extending sata power cables, in my experience (I hate sata power connectors!).
Is it just me or is the video not in sync with the audio in this one?
Like, real bad, a second or so maybe
I thought it was my connection haha 😂
This isn’t the only video either
It only happens AFTER he sponsored segment too
Oh good...I thought I was having a stoke. lol
I thought I'm alone
Nope, definitely not synched.
Strange audio sync issue aside, that was a nice little comparison piece.
I feel like there was a trend through the late 00's where PSU manufacturers were including better and better cables with their units. That all seemed to die out when extensions started to get popular and they all figured that they could make more money by selling their own cable kits separately. About the best you can hope for now are flat black cables, sleeved if you're lucky.
I can't help but think that this is also the reason that we still don't have a standard for the PSU-side connectors, they all want you to buy their own 1st-party cable kits... Just like I did with my Corsair cable kit. If I had a do-over I'd go for a custom kit from CableMod, get just the cables I need in the lengths I need them and the colour I want.
"I bought these... No money changing hands"
My man struck a *deal* on some cables lol
I’ve got cable extensions and nine fans, which each have a 3 foot power and rgb cable. Between the 54 feet of fan cables and extension junk, I’ve decided the back of my case is just going to have to be a birds nest
In the video, you mentioned the stock cables pigtailing into two not being an issue. On my 6900xt and SF750 PSU, I ran into an issue with the power supply tripping at stock GPU settings. Switching to one cable per 8 pin, rather than pigtailing off fixed the issue. I'm not trying to cast shade, just thought you'd find it interesting.
I think it's always better to run individual power cables to each GPU port the PSU has the outputs for it.
yea from my understanding it mostly because of cable gauge or the output of the specific rails that people suggest running 2 separate cables both reasons make sense to me so when i can i run 2 cables.
It's only a function of wire gauge. Somehow your car's 12V battery (incidentally what EPS and PEG carries) can do 1000A over a single wire (unless you're American and never had a diesel car ;))
The MINIMUM rating for an 8-pin EPS is 384W aka 32A (you don't need to plug anything in the 4-pin; Jeff knows this, but the video is about looks, so it had to be plugged).
GPUs are allowed exactly 12.5A per 8-pin PEG (which has 3 wires for power for whatever reason). Whole GPU is theoretically limited to 2 8-pins (2*12.5A = 25A, 300W) + PCIe slot power (75W).
Think about it: the EPS 8-pin does 384W per the standard, and most mid-range motherboards install a 500-something rated socket instead of a cheap 384W one. Each and every PSU has to have wires capable of the standard 8A/wire (and it's actually the law). A GPU is limited to pulling 300W from 2*8-pin PEG. Again, 8-pin PEG is 3 wires for power, so even if you feed a single GPU with a split cable, that's 100W per wire, aka... 8.3A.
Again: actual law requires wire gauge for the PSU cables to handle 8A for EPS cables. It's cheaper to use the same wire gauge for EPS and PEG. PEG needs 4A normally, but 8,3A per wire if you use a single cable splitting into 2*8 at the end.
Unless you buy your PSU cables from AliExpress, you're getting AT LEAST 18 AWG wire, nominal 10A per wire. Unless your PSU is also from AliExpress, with this wire gauge it will handle a 3090 on a single split cable and still be within spec.
ive used several different brands of kits. currently, im running a pair of CableMod Pro extension kits in brown, they match my 18 noctua fans nicely. i got 2x 24 pin, 2x 4 pin eps, 2x 8 pin eps, and 4x 8 pin pcie for my dual full atx tower (corsair 900D heavily modded). shipped, it was a tad under 300 US dollars in early 2021, and they were custom made for me, because very few people order the brown. my case has a giant basement, even with 2 850W seasonic psus in it, so the management is clean and simple.
Corsiar 900D LOL. What a freaking monster.
I love ketchup and mustard, no money left for cablemod...
I've been a big fan of your videos from racks to servers to desktops. Got a lot of great ideas, this video just solved my problem for power supply cables, my friend sent me an EVGA 1200W power supply but it didn't have cables, going with the Cablemod cables. I'm doing a Lian Li DK-05 desk build with dual MSI Godlike, 5950 and 3090. To compliment it, I bought a Netshelter CX 24u more or less with what you've had in videos for your network.
What a coincidence...I'm currently looking for some cables. Perfect timing :-)
While i applaud the effort, I am completely opposite when I build, I prefer a closed case with no clear window and no rgb, and preferably as low noise as can be :)
Like my first build. Really my next one needs to be back to the basics again..
Low noise no bells n whistles and just perform.
Exactly. Does it boot? Are temps good? Good enough. Only reason I ended up getting CableMod cables are when I went ITX. I needed some shorter cables than even SFX units come with.
I like clean builds woth no rgb like if evetything goes together is just doesnt need rgb to look good
Love the content but this is the third craft computing video I've watched that was released recently, within the last two weeks, where the audio has drifted out of sync with Jeff's lips. Starts out great but within the first couple minutes it's at least 1 second drift. Anyone else noticing this?
YT has been screwing them up after a couple days. Trust me....I've noticed, and am escalating this as far as I can to get it fixed.
@@CraftComputing Glad to hear, sorry it's happening. Looking forward to seeing more content from you. Keep it up.
i just upgraded my original cables too cable mods ones, was an easy installation. they feel like quality..now i finally can call my build complete ;p
Personally, I like the look of a solid steel case. For the price of that RGB and spiffy cable set, I'd rather bump up the performance a notch or two. The only thing you can see of my PC is the front.
I’ve used cablemod extensions for a few years now. I never had any issues until recently. I started getting annoying black screens while the GPU was under heavy load. I was worried about the GPU or PSU being bad, but after eliminating what I could, I tried to remove my cablemod extensions. Turns out that fixed the issue. I’m gonna try the set made for my PSU instead and hopefully we don’t have issues.
If I remember correctly from Jayz video what they brought up is the power that an PSU can deliver per rail. So an pigtail cable will not be able to provide as much power as two different cables from different rails.
And the gpu that Jay used has a much lower power draw than an 6900xt.
I went with custom CableMod extensions with the Alluminum combs and bridged PCIe cables (each combs bridges the 8 and 6 pin cables (2070s)) super clean look.
i might be alone here, but the cable combs bug me. they look like a necessary guiding like when the look would be so much cleaner, without them. but when it comes to these kinds of cables, the problem is, that both side or the row, have the same length. this makes them even, when the whole cable is straight, but inside the pc, the cable with have a 90 degree or 180 degree bend, making them squish into each other
Audio is not synced, can't watch it like that, too disturbing...
No you're gonna watch it. I'm gonna make you.
I'm just disappointed there's not a link to buy the shirt you're wearing
LMAOOOO
I feel like I am watching one of those voice over thingies that you watch at 4 in the morning.
"Back in my days" we used to sleeve cables ourselves. It's interesting to see that buying these pre sleeved kits is still nothing more than a shortcut and always comes with downsides.
Man, I still own a Molex connector and some other power supply plug remover tool. I can't believe how much time I used to put into stuff like this before it was cool.
A critique suggest for future editing of a similarly styled video. Instead of filming your up-close shots and showing them all in a row, and then doing your desk comparison, interweave the two. This might be difficult for editing. And I understand that you would film it in the style because it's easier. However, it makes it easier to follow and to show the benefits and the drawbacks of each cable.
Regarding using same rail for both GPU power connections - it costed me a fried PSU and motherboard at the beginning of this year. I think it is better to be safe than sorry and use two cables instead.
PSU was Seasonic Gold 750W + and GPU was freshly bought Gigabyte 3080 OC Vision.
Luckily I was reimbursed for PSU and motherboard was repaired at the end, but overall it was not fun experience.
EVGA sponsored the video but reco is for Cablemod... so full cred on the content.
Red and silver build is sick
I've used CableMod cables once (EVGA 1000 P2) and some Chinese Amazon extensions twice. TBH, if one desires custom looking cables, the Chinese extensions are a freaking bargain at roughly 1/4 the price of CableMod and included combs as I recall. I've always said GPU makers should allow for the 7th and 8th pins to "plug in" (actually just sort of rest) in a blank spot on cards that use just a six-pin so they don't have to be left hanging out in space. With a set of custom cables or extensions it's much less of a thing.
In truth, my next build (assuming there are ever parts at reasonable prices again) will be in a case with no window.
Your showcase saved a LOT of nerves for me, thanks!
Microcnter has open box ones for like $20-$30 for a more basic kit. I got it since it does make my build look a lot nicer
I recently fixed a long time stability issue by removing my extensions. So I've personally sworn them off.
Full or just extensions? And what went wrong
I don't know about the OP, however I have had massive,1-2V voltage drop from extensions, full sets or nothing for me too, voltage drop means resistance, resistance means potential for excess heat, if I let it get too bad could have been a possible fire... Not a risk I'm willing to take with a pc that's nice enough to warrant custom cables
@@PolntBlank just extensions. Just random blue screens, under different loads, different times, different settings from undervolt, overclock, stock settings, ram, motherboards (5 in total) an upgrade to a 3800x, cpu coolers, thermal paste. nothing made sense. i had an intel system before with the same PSU and extensions. never any issues, i was able to OC my 6700k to 4.9Ghz with them, and OC my gpu. was thinking about it the other day and almost slapped myself for not noticing before that it had happened when i switched from intel to AMD that it started. figured it would hurt to pull the extensions. been 3 weeks with all my best hardware reassembled just with the stock psu cables installed without crashing.....
TLDR; i am dumb, dont be me. sometimes its the obvious things. make sure when you go back to "stock" you pull the extensions. a $30 amazon kit cost me a couple grand chasing
@@rimzul9466i wish id had the sense to use a multimeter, wouldnt have been hard either.
@@Sharky5421 I didn't use a multimeter either, had a high end sabertooth board that displayed my voltages in the bios and software, as soon as I removed the extensions the v-drop was gone all voltages were perfect
Nice video. I'm not OCD enough to care about custom cables. Then again I like the nactua fan colors and have 7 of them in my case.
I'm amazed by all this. I've never had a computer case with see-through panels or lights in there so hadn't even considered the asthetics of the cable management. I certainly wouldn't want to spend a great deal to do anything other than get the right power to the right places. And my computers tend to be kept in cupboards out of sight. But it was interesting to see a different approach.
13:12 First thought would be to probably try 3D printing a custom cover for that hole
...and printing replacement cable combs for the set that was loose and breaking.
@@davidg5898 Actually an excellent point, definitely could do that and have a colour that normally wouldn't be available
Great video, thanks for the info. Beer and cable review, can't ask for more!
I find that the worst part of building a computer is paying the credit card bill.
I got the cable mod pro cables in black for the same case. They worked well bar the 24 pin as I have an X570 aorus extreme and that has a side mounted cable. I will get the dremel out at some point to make it better.
i have cablemod extensions on order :) I chose extensions because I need them for example for my eps connections I cant connect or disconnect them when the cpu cooler is in and this way I dont have to I can just unplug it on the back and take the Board out or what ever
Here's my two cents, if you have a case with a exposed psu nothing beats the look of custom cables however most cases now a days have a basement hiding the psu so at that point it doesn't matter what you use. I personally prefer the exposed psu look with each wire in a custom cable ziptied in groups of four wires neatly routing to the back of the motherboard tray.
Tks for your works.
I have a SFF build, and I feel like i need to custom length cables to allow more air flow.
The only time I have ever used any sort of individually sleaved cable extenders was during a build where I needed a longer EPS cable and 24 pin cable to reach the top of the system and I was not able to buy just a plain extender locally and had to spend extra money on a stupid individually sleeved set. I have built hundreds of systems in my life and I have always thought see-thru or tempered glass side panels are a waste of money. They make the case heavier and easier to break and reduce the possible airflow. These days it's far more likely that the case is going to be squirreled away under a desk or behind a monitor where no one is going to see it. If only the PC parts makers would go to straight 12V PSUs and have a single power connector with 6 or 8 AWG cables and a few signal wires to supply power to the mainboard and peripherals and eliminate all the cables and multi-voltage rails running everywhere.
audio way out of sync ...
i use the cable mod full set for my evga 750 psu works an looks great plenty of cables an have extra if i choose to expand my system
Also with cablemod you can choose the length so if you have a tiny ITX case, you can just choose the smaller length
I bought cable extensions, for price more than anything else. I will say the power supply area is a bit messy, but it does look great in the front with my build.
I am thinking about cable extensions. I have plenty of room in the basement to hide the extra and I just can’t bring myself to pay $100 or more on custom cables. Would rather put the extra into performance at this point.
You didn't mention that with CableMod cables you can get a SINGLE 8+4 EPS cable and a SINGLE 8+6, 8+8, 8+8+8 PCIe cables which are technically not a single cable but are multiple cables that share a single cable comb that make it look like one cable and also make the cables look significantly cleaner since if you have multiple cables next to each other the cable combs are not lined up properly and it hurts some people's OCD and the cables can be too far or too close to each other
Cablemod has way to do custom lengths. I've actually done that for my computer.
Two things to note - don't run a single cable to a 2 connector GPU - stock cables are 18 AWG and you will be running close to their rated capacity on anything top end. Also - you don't need to use the extra 4 pin EPS with a standard consumer CPU unless you're overclocking on LN2 with insane levels of current - 8 pin EPS provides 240 odd watts, so anything non HEDT is more than fine with the 8 pin.
Wait wdym about the gpu cable thing? I just bought 2 pcie cablemod cables for my 3070 with the intent of plugging both single cables into my psu then into the gpu
@@j.m4a1 then you’re fine - what I was talking about was a single 8 pin on the PSU side which goes to two 8 pins on the GPU side, often as a pigtail.
@@PhilJohn1980 oh my gpu is currently plugged in exactly like that using the pigtail
I probably would just buy black flexible cable tubes and run all wires through that all black and sleek looking and way way cheaper makes routing the cables much easier too
Not having to deal with extensions is not a convenience... is a matter of not introducing longer length of cable between psu and device plus point of contact and those two negatively reflect on the quality of power delivery.
When I redid my build I was thinking about Cable Mod, but chose to man up and order all the parts to make my own. Three days later and a lot of cursing I turned out some awesome cables that I was very proud of and came in several dollars under Cable Mod's price. I can live with that. 😎
I did this *once* - ordered the sleeving in two colors, the combs, crimper, connectors, and a spool, had my trusty multimeter ready for action. Honestly, it was an exciting project, at least throughout the planning and purchasing phases.
By about the 8th out of 24 atx power cables, I realized that the only reason I was going to complete this was sheer stubborn cheapskatedness on my part - I'd already purchased everything I'd needed for it, and wasnt going to let it go to waste. So, I settled in for hours of tedium to follow, until they were finally finished. I felt no sense of satisfaction, even though to this day it's the best looking overall system I'd ever put together.
If one can afford them, I'd instead just recommend going cable-mod - your time gaming is worth more than the $80-100 you'll save between the two. If they're outside your price range though? Or if you just dont have any other projects going on (who has no other projects!?) and love doing them? Go for it.
I got enuff RGB that i could care less about my cables. I have a white set of Corsair stock cables in my white Phanteks Eclipse P 360 A and im mostly happy with how they look except for the PCIe cables. Other than that im happy with my overall build aesthetic.
Extensions arent fun, they add sooo much more cable mess to deal with. The other two sets you got are direct replacement cables for the ones that came with your PSU. EVGA cables are just too thin for me, I have a set and while they can look good they are not great.
Jeff, try LINK UP cable extensions. It is darn good for a cheap price.
So in short, yes, they're worth it, but it depends on your budget and what your individual system requires. Because the back panel of my case is solid metal, extenders all the way for both looks and value. If you have a tempered or acrylic glass back panel, maybe full replacements are more up your alley, but get ready to spend more too.
Am I the only one that experienced audio desync through this entire video?
Can you use a hairdryer to warm the cables before you train them? Just push them to say 40°c (hot bath temp) to 60°c (discomfort for 1sec touch without gloves) to make them temporarily more bendy.
The one thing I hate about cable mod cables is if I need just $20 worth of cables say like two or three cables that are fully sleeved non-extension cables, I have to order $100 worth of stuff or I can't get my order in, because of the flat rate shipping stuff they do, and I'm not a very good person to ask how that works because I have no clue I just know that because of where I live I have to at minimum purchase like $120 worth of cables and other variable amounts of stuff...
**Edit** I know that particular tidbit after finding that I need extra cables because my power supply cables that came with my power supply were the wrong type of cables...
How you can buy a brand new motherboard these days, and then go to Best buy or online or anywhere and buy a standard power supply only to find that it has a 4 + 4 pin connector that is designed to form an eight pin when combined, but will not fit inside an eight pin connector on the motherboard, well, it's something that I just don't understand... And yet, if I get something like an 8 + 4 plug then the eight pin fits just fine usually...
Always thought that custom meant "custom length" with color being just a choice 😂
So sound problems we see you have that day!
Nasty audio sync issues.
I've recently installed cablemod extensions in my pc and I've felt it in my hands for days... I commend you for doing this multiple times like this! On the other hand... are you mad!? 😂
The mistake I made was going with a black/red theme initially with Cable Mod and then wanting to change to just black. Purchased a second set and now have one that I won’t use again.
What PSU are they for?
Seasonic Prime Ultra 1000w
I had a good experience with my EnSourced cable extension set.
I do not know about anyone else but the uneven cable combs flared up my OCD
Thank you for this, just what I needed.
you can always buy some cable combs, and get custom colors like red, yellow, blue, green, purple, etc.
Jeff does the hard work so we don't have to!
will extension cables affect TDP output?
Thank you for more great content. I am sorry for your hands.
First of all, Jeff, thank you for the immense amount of time investment and cable routing hell that you put into this video. I've never purchased cable extensions or a different set of cables for any power supply. If I did, it would be extensions, as I can't justify spending nearly the same amount on cabling as I did on the supply in the first place.
Another option which is "affordable" is to hand sleeve each cable. There are several guides on youtube. The only tools you need are a pin removal tool, a bic lighter, shrink wrap, and the polyethylene sleeving.
I will never do it again.
the audio kills it for me. i was going to sub
Blame YT for the audio, and refusing to allow me to replace the file. My source was 100% fine.
Keep in mind cablemod doesn't make kits for every power supply! I wanted to get shorter cables for my ITX build but couldn't :(
Also it's pretty easy to bundle PSU cables in the 'basement'. You should invest in some velcro cable ties.
Which brand is your psu?
Was someone listening to music in another room while you were filming the conclusion? I keep hearing a bass line during it.
its his background music
I used the black Micro Connectors Premium Sleeved PSU Cable Extension Kit. I had to use extensions in my Define 7 XL case. They were decent for $30 from Microcenter.
I only buy them when they have a sale going on or if I get an ASUS motherboard since ALL ASUS motherboards come with CableMod vouchers since they are partner ed with each other and I currently have 2 spare ones one of which I will use when I can get a new RTX GPU when I can finally get my hands on one. (CableMod vouchers that come with ASUS MOBO's have no expiry date as far as I am aware and I got one with a motherboard I RMA'd a couple months ago when I built my current PC and kept the voucher when I sent the MOBO back to Amazon and the 2nd one I got with my current MOBO (I already had a voucher that I used for the custom cables on my build which I got for free because around a year and half ago when I used to work in a charity shop some dude donated a crappy MOBO with a CPU inside it worth like $5 but he donated it in a high end ASUS MOBO box as a joke that was for a MOBO worth like $300+ and it had all the accessories and paperwork that came with the box (me and a friend who also worked there who are PC gamers both thought we got some high end MOBO that we may keep or split the cash on since a lot of stuff people donated we end up not selling due to laws and rules and regulations since the item may be missing safety stickers and sometimes for electrical items it can be that it is damaged or untestable using the testing equipment at the store and therefore either too expensive to test since the payback would be little or it would be illegal to sell. I even got a decent comfortable computer chair for free and a Bluetooth Keyboard and I got an Xbox One controller and a pair of brand new Philips brand wall lights all of which were worth a fair bit of money
Are those really the blood read on the cablemods? The ones in your link look darker.
Hint on colors for extensions: if you get a Molex minfit Jr. Pin removal tool you can extract the pins from the cable and reorder. Only use the official Molex tool, which is a little pricey, as the others are made from inferior materials.
What about Asia Horse ?
Buy these over CableMod if you have room to hide the extra cable length. There’s no need to spend the extra money.
After the "does it work" feature, appearance is a long way down the list, and I am not willing to pay much at all for appearance.
I also prefer solid cases without RGB.
If you can find a cable builder in your region they cost the same as cablemod but will give you a more custom fitment
As long as you get a good one. I have half a set in my system, the guy was recommended... but wouldn't be by me.
I have always used the stock cables that come with the power supply. It is usually not a perfect experience, but a folks I've built machines for don't want to pay the extra money for the good cables.
It would be interesting to see the resistance on the cables, not that it matter. Just interesting🤔
Theres basically no difference between any of them, even the extensions (as long as the connection is solid). I'd tested them out of curiosity the first time I purchased cable-mod's stuff to replace seasonic stock ones, after trying a set of extensions. Theres just not enough length there at the awg the cables are to allow for much resistance change, and the copper used seems to be of similar quality even if differently stranded.
With my case, at least 1 extention was necessary for cable management, my 8 pin was a good 6 inches to short to route it behind the motherboard, and the only option was to stretch it over the motherboard.
Got a used cablemod rt pro set for 23+tax hoping I like it :D
I use cable extensions.. I got mine from Formula Modz for about 30-40 dollars.. and they are very nice.. I can't justify $100 plus for cables or extensions... the price to quality/ performance just does not add up to me..
I have a generic set of extensions, but have been thinking of a custom set. You have kinda nudged me closer to that as I now have the Cablemod PRO set for my PSU in my Amazon cart.
Before checking out, if it is not too late, go to cable mods site. You might get a better deal ordering directly, and you can fully customize it, colors and lengths. It will ship from Bahrain, so be patient.
I got a rog Thor 1200W from Facebook market place and I’ve been regretting it sadly it didn’t come with the power cord it’s missing the motherboard cable my question is can I replace cables and is there any info I should know about if I can replace cables
I have made my own cables for a few builds. I suggest cablemod. It's worth the savings in time. Yes, it cost money, but unless you are very skilled, it is less than minimum wage for your own time. Edit: cablemod allows you to customize length too, if you really want to spend the big money. So worth it for show builds.
I have a question and really late question but would these cable be Compatible with strimmer plus v2 or am I out of luck?
My psu is evea supernova G6 gold
Having audio sync issues...am trying different resolutions, but still get audio sync issues.
Tried everyting from auto up to 1080p, and audio sync issues (Can't go higher, 'cause 1080p is the highest I can go).
If I use cablemod extension, do I need certain ones (like for my GPU brand / model) or can I use just any cable extensions without risk?
Extensions are designed for all power supplies. You only need to pay attention to brand/model if doing a full replacement of your modular cables.
Make sense?
@@CraftComputing Yes, thanks a lot!
I HATE PIG TAILS. I have a 1080 ti hooked to my Corsair rm750x psu. And I kept getting random blue even when I undervolt my system and ran it stock. I tried tons of different things and nothing worked until I ran two separate pcie cables to my gpu and I never got a blue screen again.
When I used a single PCIe cable for my 3070 with the double pigtail I got stupidly loud coil whine even on idle. Installing the two dedicated cables and it was completely gone.
The popped out eyeballs on YT thumbnails phenomenon strikes again.
What color what are the cablemod cables
I'm all about the money. Over $100 for a kit of cables that already come with the power supply is not something I really care about. I guess when you make tons of money you have money to burn.
Personally I got cablemod pro modmesh they are very nice.
The evga elite thing isn't free, you already have to have bought evga in the past year.
I have built many systems, but have never really considered custom cables. $100 is often enough to increase SSD size, or add more ram, or or even step up to a nicer CPU/GPU. I really struggle to see the desire of these kinds of cables for anything but show builds or builds with absolutely no budget.
Additionally, with Gamer's Nexus findings of power delivery failures of PCI-e risers from reputable brands: I would never consider buying extension cables from a no-name Amazon brand. Especially as modern GPUs begin to push power demands on these cables, cheap cables do not have the same validations as those included with the PSU.
Good points on power extensions and the risks. However, realistically, extending a minfit Jr. Connection is almost always going to be fine, provided the wires are 18 AWG and the pins are Molex brand. The areas of risk are extending sata power cables, in my experience (I hate sata power connectors!).