Kudos to Jim Hines! Both he and Jesse Owens were two of the greatest sprinters of all time. It's such a shame that the doors of opportunity were not open to Hines, following his track-and-field and NFL careers.
the one thing that encourages me about the video and more so the comment section below is that these runners are not forgotten and that there are many of us who revel in their great running ability...may that quest never end.
James Hines was my only inspiration for running 100 and 200 when I was in high school in 1969. I' d really like to meet him. One of the greatest athletes of the 20th century. You had to see him in action to appreciate how powerful, from head to toe, a 100m sprinter could be. Great form as well. Bob Hayes was spectacular, of course, but I think that Mr. Hines was tougher & better. He knew his race inside and out. It's interesting to hear him say how hard the Mexico City atmosphere was on him.
It is regrettable the athlete that pioneered the first sub-10 second 100m sprint performance in history and who also helped Team USA regain Olympic dominance in the relay after our team was DQ'd in 1960 (1964, 1968, 1972 were all gold medal and record setting victories) was unable to capitalize on his accomplishments in the lucrative manner of today's Olympic standouts.
I agree I think Jim Hines is the most underrated sprinter of all time. If you look at time comparisons between Bob Hayes and Jim Hines you'll notice that his times are actually faster, for example Hayes ran no faster than 10.05 secs.legally on a cinder track. Hines ran 10.03 on a cinder track in Sacramento (hand timed at 9.9).Hayes ran 8.6 relay leg in Tokyo albeit on a cinder track. Hines ran 8.2 secs in Mexico ( see Olympiadi Di Citta Messico 1968 4x100 Italia in Finale video
@@BreuckelensFinest Hines is no doubt one of the best sprinter of all-time. He may have a faster time than Bullet Bob but 4 years apart from 1964, training equipment, tracks, and shoes improved. Let's not forget that Bullet Bob only trained for 2 years in T&F and he never lost a race. The 1964 Olympic 400 relay required Bullet Bob to run catchup and we all know what he did when being pushed. Bob Hayes remains the greatest sprinter so far. The sprinters since PED Carl don't count anymore, they are all on something. Just check out their body-builder physiques, they don't look normal.
@@benthekeeshond545 Except 4 Usain Bolt and Andre Degrasse, Richard Thompson, very slender and lanky with natural flowing strides, as opposed to others that look like football running backs.
Sir: It may well be true that MOST of today's world class sprinters are somewhat larger and more heavily muscled than most of the world class sprinters of the 1960's. The fact remains, however, that very few 21st century sprinters are more heavily muscled than Robert ["Bob"] Hayes was in his prime - some 50 years ago. Mr Hayes, who is still considered by SOME sprint pundits and experts to have been the most naturally gifted 100 metres sprinter of all time, produced a couple of performances at the Tokyo Olympic Games [1964] which were truly phenomenal. In the final of the individual 100 metres sprint, he won the race by a proverbial street..... and, in the process, set a new World Record of 10.06 seconds - a lightning fast time on an old-fashioned cinder track. What is more, in the 4 x 100m relay final, the burly speedster from Florida finished well ahead of the second placed athlete - despite the fact that he was AT LEAST 3 metres behind the sprinter in question when he received the baton.
@@TheEctomorph Jim Hines wasn't a better football player than Bob Hayes but he was faster with a 9.95 on rubber surface & 10.03 on cinder dirt track to Bob Hayes 10.06 cinder time. Those are the facts.
The body type is exactly the same for the best sprinters. It's just the UHD 4K and super slo mo cameras show every sinew and twitch of muscle, they just look way bigger. When you meet these sprinters in real life though, wearing a t-shirt and shorts, they look incredibly skinny. It's the complete lack of body fat, if you don't have any it makes you look 20lbs heavier than you actually are.
Thanks NLS for responding. I guess there will always be speculation as to the accuracy of both Bob Hayes and Jim Hines respective relay legs times, quite frankly because to this day no one knows who actually recorded those times, however,it is because Hines was on a Tartan/synthetic track in high altitude having already set the world record and overcoming a 3-7 meter deficit in 5th or 6th place that IMO the time is accurate. Both relay legs were extraordinary performances.
race at 2:11 is 1966 aau 100 1st greene 2nd hines greene lost following years 100 when hines got a 'flyer' and won a disputed decision in a photo finish
Is it possible to reload the 1960 and 1964 segments. I receive a message that those two have been blocked in response to the International Olympic Committee. Tony
I wonder if Jim actually did run 9.89s there. They just didn't trust the electronic timing at that point and probably rounded up massively to something more believable combined with their hand times.
Great series. I'm fascinated. Is there any chance you could re-upload the 1968 Jim Hines episode of The fastest men on earth series? From 5mins 34secs to the end the film is locked! Best wishes and thanks.
Armin Hary of Germany ran a 10.00 in the 100m on Cinder dirt, in the 1960 Olympics to win a Gold Medal! This is the fastest time ever on a Cinder dirt track! I'm the only one who talks about him.
Jim Hines complains about the oxygen level but come on. It's not like they were at Everest. At sea level the oxygen is about 4.6% more (20.9%) than at 2245m (16.3%). Not that big of a deal unless you are in really bad health. And this an anaerobic event not the marathon. The reason the altitude helps has to do with the density of the air. The air pressure lessens with more altitude and thus the density decreases. At 2245m the air pressure is about 25% less. So all credit to Hines for his efforts but IT DID HELP!
Veridicus maximus, I live in africa, where sprinters run at sea level and at altitude. They run a lot faster at altitude, at least .1 , at times .2 of second faster. I have seen this many times, over many yrs. Look at other Sprint events , eg bob beamon in long jump. He flew! So, Hines was one great sprinter, one of the best, but if anyone thinks he did not get help from altitude, well, then they don't understand track and altitude sprinting.
Correct, it definitely helped. And there is also the fact that the gravity is a tiny, tiny bit less at altitude (sorry, I don't have the figures, but it's definitely a tiny bit less). So Hines, bless him, was talking rubbish.
The 9.89 was an unofficial hand time recorded by the television crew. It was just a rough approximation of the official time of 9.95, which was recorded with an automatic timing device.
Kudos to Jim Hines! Both he and Jesse Owens were two of the greatest sprinters of all time. It's such a shame that the doors of opportunity were not open to Hines, following his track-and-field and NFL careers.
the one thing that encourages me about the video and more so the comment section below is that these runners are not forgotten and that there are many of us who revel in their great running ability...may that quest never end.
James Hines was my only inspiration for running 100 and 200 when I was in high school in 1969. I' d really like to meet him. One of the greatest athletes of the 20th century. You had to see him in action to appreciate how powerful, from head to toe, a 100m sprinter could be. Great form as well. Bob Hayes was spectacular, of course, but I think that Mr. Hines was tougher & better. He knew his race inside and out. It's interesting to hear him say how hard the Mexico City atmosphere was on him.
It is regrettable the athlete that pioneered the first sub-10 second 100m sprint performance in history and who also helped Team USA regain Olympic dominance in the relay after our team was DQ'd in 1960 (1964, 1968, 1972 were all gold medal and record setting victories) was unable to capitalize on his accomplishments in the lucrative manner of today's Olympic standouts.
Underrated greatness
I agree I think Jim Hines is the most underrated sprinter of all time. If you look at time comparisons between Bob Hayes and Jim Hines you'll notice that his times are actually faster, for example Hayes ran no faster than 10.05 secs.legally on a cinder track. Hines ran 10.03 on a cinder track in Sacramento (hand timed at 9.9).Hayes ran 8.6 relay leg in Tokyo albeit on a cinder track. Hines ran 8.2 secs in Mexico ( see Olympiadi Di Citta Messico 1968 4x100 Italia in Finale video
Hines was in fact faster than Hayes. For some reason Hayes is more loved & respected. Hines is the Rodney Dangerfield of track & field!
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Hines is no doubt one of the best sprinter of all-time. He may have a faster time than Bullet Bob but 4 years apart from 1964, training equipment, tracks, and shoes improved. Let's not forget that Bullet Bob only trained for 2 years in T&F and he never lost a race. The 1964 Olympic 400 relay required Bullet Bob to run catchup and we all know what he did when being pushed. Bob Hayes remains the greatest sprinter so far. The sprinters since PED Carl don't count anymore, they are all on something. Just check out their body-builder physiques, they don't look normal.
@@benthekeeshond545 🤔 Carl Lewis Bodybuilder physique? And what about Calvin Smith? You can't say he was on PED.
@@benthekeeshond545 and he retired at 21 years old Bob Hayes Legend fastest man that ever lived!!!
@@benthekeeshond545 Except 4 Usain Bolt and Andre Degrasse, Richard Thompson, very slender and lanky with natural flowing strides, as opposed to others that look like football running backs.
Bob Hayes...inspirational to see him run...Charlie Green and Jim Hines...ok
The sprinters of that era are so lean. Not heavily muscled like now a days. Just a lot of pure fast twitch fibers.
Sir: It may well be true that MOST of today's world class sprinters are somewhat larger and more heavily muscled than most of the world class sprinters of the 1960's. The fact remains, however, that very few 21st century sprinters are more heavily muscled than Robert ["Bob"] Hayes was in his prime - some 50 years ago. Mr Hayes, who is still considered by SOME sprint pundits and experts to have been the most naturally gifted 100 metres sprinter of all time, produced a couple of performances at the Tokyo Olympic Games [1964] which were truly phenomenal. In the final of the individual 100 metres sprint, he won the race by a proverbial street..... and, in the process, set a new World Record of 10.06 seconds - a lightning fast time on an old-fashioned cinder track. What is more, in the 4 x 100m relay final, the burly speedster from Florida finished well ahead of the second placed athlete - despite the fact that he was AT LEAST 3 metres behind the sprinter in question when he received the baton.
@@TheEctomorph Jim Hines wasn't a better football player than Bob Hayes but he was faster with a 9.95 on rubber surface & 10.03 on cinder dirt track to Bob Hayes 10.06 cinder time. Those are the facts.
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The body type is exactly the same for the best sprinters. It's just the UHD 4K and super slo mo cameras show every sinew and twitch of muscle, they just look way bigger. When you meet these sprinters in real life though, wearing a t-shirt and shorts, they look incredibly skinny. It's the complete lack of body fat, if you don't have any it makes you look 20lbs heavier than you actually are.
Thanks NLS for responding. I guess there will always be speculation as to the accuracy of both Bob Hayes and Jim Hines respective relay legs times, quite frankly because to this day no one knows who actually recorded those times, however,it is because Hines was on a Tartan/synthetic track in high altitude having already set the world record and overcoming a 3-7 meter deficit in 5th or 6th place that IMO the time is accurate. Both relay legs were extraordinary performances.
why and how was the 9.89 rounded up to 9.95 secs.? That's a big difference
Perhaps by choice or a decision for what reasons, I still don't know bc I've never found any information as to why.
Anche Tommy Smith nei 200
The reason his wife refused him was because his coach had asked her not to tire him out!
race at 2:11 is 1966 aau 100 1st greene 2nd hines greene lost following years 100 when hines got a 'flyer' and won a disputed decision in a photo finish
Is it possible to reload the 1960 and 1964 segments.
I receive a message that those two have been blocked in response to the International Olympic Committee.
Tony
I wonder if Jim actually did run 9.89s there. They just didn't trust the electronic timing at that point and probably rounded up massively to something more believable combined with their hand times.
Interesting point
The electronic timing was very unreliable back then and consistently gave the athletes faster times at those games. The photo gave the time at 9.95
Great series. I'm fascinated. Is there any chance you could re-upload the 1968 Jim Hines episode of The fastest men on earth series? From 5mins 34secs to the end the film is locked! Best wishes and thanks.
Awesome
Where Is Mennea?
He's a 200m runner who was competed at his best more than a decade later
Armin Hary of Germany ran a 10.00 in the 100m on Cinder dirt, in the 1960 Olympics to win a Gold Medal! This is the fastest time ever on a Cinder dirt track! I'm the only one who talks about him.
Hary ran 10.1 in Rome (but had run 10.0 elsewhere). Hayes ran 10 flat in Tokyo in a torn up Lane 1.
@@trackandfieldarchive Tha't wrong...
Electric Time is 10"25...
Jim Hines complains about the oxygen level but come on. It's not like they were at Everest. At sea level the oxygen is about 4.6% more (20.9%) than at 2245m (16.3%). Not that big of a deal unless you are in really bad health. And this an anaerobic event not the marathon. The reason the altitude helps has to do with the density of the air. The air pressure lessens with more altitude and thus the density decreases. At 2245m the air pressure is about 25% less. So all credit to Hines for his efforts but IT DID HELP!
Veridicus maximus, I live in africa, where sprinters run at sea level and at altitude. They run a lot faster at altitude, at least .1 , at times .2 of second faster. I have seen this many times, over many yrs. Look at other Sprint events , eg bob beamon in long jump. He flew! So, Hines was one great sprinter, one of the best, but if anyone thinks he did not get help from altitude, well, then they don't understand track and altitude sprinting.
Correct, it definitely helped. And there is also the fact that the gravity is a tiny, tiny bit less at altitude (sorry, I don't have the figures, but it's definitely a tiny bit less). So Hines, bless him, was talking rubbish.
How can 9.89 be rounded off to 9.95 it should be 9 .90 shouldn't it.
I’ve never gotten a straight answer as to why it was changed from 9.89 to 9.95
The 9.89 was an unofficial hand time recorded by the television crew. It was just a rough approximation of the official time of 9.95, which was recorded with an automatic timing device.
First run under 10 , 00 sec.? Without High tech spikes.
No, the fastest man on Earth is somewhere in Africa trying to out run a hungry lion
Why wasn't he given a chance to join the coaching ranks with his knowledge of sprinting!!!!!!
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