Idaho: Hotbed of Christian nationalism

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • This week on "Ask an Atheist" FFRF's Ryan Dudley and Chris Line discuss Christian nationalism in the state of Idaho. They are joined by Josiah Mannion, a photographer and activist located in Idaho, who has been involved in combating Christian nationalism.
    Learn more about the Freedom From Religion Foundation at ffrf.org.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 399

  • @richardwilliams473
    @richardwilliams473 Рік тому +70

    Thank God for the Freedom From Religion Foundation. No pun intended

    • @kleenmaint
      @kleenmaint Рік тому +4

      😄for real

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому

      We need more outposts besides just Madison Wisconsin!

    • @The_Cali_Dude_88
      @The_Cali_Dude_88 Рік тому

      g0d has nothing to do with 'helping' them... quite contrary, his name helps us destroy cHristianity 🤩

    • @julzee111
      @julzee111 3 місяці тому

      Why do you have inalienable rights in America?

  • @josephcampisi5401
    @josephcampisi5401 Рік тому +83

    As a landscape photographer, l love VISITING ldaho, it’s very beautiful. As an atheist, I’d NEVER live there.

    • @trishareedy-wilkinson5077
      @trishareedy-wilkinson5077 Рік тому +12

      I live here in Idaho. I know what you mean. It’s getting kinda crazy here.

    • @trishareedy-wilkinson5077
      @trishareedy-wilkinson5077 Рік тому +2

      Born and raised.

    • @janinecarson8380
      @janinecarson8380 Рік тому +8

      I lived there for 35+ years. I left 5 years ago and haven't regretted it for a second. It's gotten even more extreme since then.

    • @dragondancer1814
      @dragondancer1814 Рік тому +7

      As a Wiccan, I definitely concur! There is a growing number of states where sadly even the idea of visiting is enough to give me the heebie-jo-jeebies, much less living there (Fuhgeddaboudit!), and after the slew of ultraconservative laws passed there of late Idaho definitely makes the list!

    • @RLDenham
      @RLDenham Рік тому

      Thats what is great about the USA you have a choice and people should have the ability to live with like minded people that was the entire point of the Europeans coming to the "new world "

  • @trishareedy-wilkinson5077
    @trishareedy-wilkinson5077 Рік тому +46

    Idahoan, born and raised. I see how crazy it’s getting here, and it concerns me. I want to do something about it, (besides make comments on Facebook) but I’m afraid of what could happen to my family and my home and my livelihood if I speak out in public.

    • @fkujakedmyname
      @fkujakedmyname Рік тому +5

      thats what they want

    • @Phoenix-J81
      @Phoenix-J81 Рік тому +6

      We live here too and feel the same way.

    • @jdarst100
      @jdarst100 Рік тому +7

      @@Phoenix-J81 I'm an Atheist and I live in Idaho and I have no problem with telling them so.

    • @Former_Pastor
      @Former_Pastor Рік тому +4

      ​@@jdarst100 same in NC

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому +6

      Start by joining the FFRF. They have many tools to allow you to push back against the crazies, anonymously.
      It's also good for your mental health to know that you're among others who feel the same way.

  • @sally8234
    @sally8234 Рік тому +60

    I used to work for a police department in a major tourist city in California and I don't know how many officers or command staff who could not wait to retire with their guns and move to Idaho - specifically Coeur d'Alene. That was their dream.

    • @DeathAndTaxesAbolitionist
      @DeathAndTaxesAbolitionist Рік тому

      With their generous California pensions of course. So the godless ones will be funding the 'self-reliant' Christian nation.

    • @dawndead9591
      @dawndead9591 Рік тому +26

      I don't imagine you're surprised by the notion that police
      work attracts too many bullies and social conservatives.
      I've often declared there should be much more deliberate
      screening and action to limit that. "Sensitivity training", indeed!

    • @TeresaElainePhoenixArizona
      @TeresaElainePhoenixArizona Рік тому +17

      Christian Dominionist Oppressor Punisher Inflictor Minority Rule needs to be Stomped Out with Federal Policy:.
      Abortion Availability Body Autonomy Rights, LGBT+ Rights, Books Availability, Diversity Inclusion Awareness in Schools, Secularism, Separation of State & Church, etc..
      Local Politics & Governance must receive attention because that's Where their Ruinous Cancer is taking root.

    • @lonniedobbins778
      @lonniedobbins778 Рік тому

      *The Great American Redoubt!*
      *White Nationalist Creating WHITE PEOPLE ONLY STATES, (areas in the country).*
      I KNOW SOMEONE HEARD OF IT!
      *THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RADIO STATIONS!*
      And a documentary.

    • @blueberry-ri7eb
      @blueberry-ri7eb Рік тому +11

      Exactly . My friend's son was a total white Supremacist and could not wait to move to Idaho

  • @MrBBOTP
    @MrBBOTP Рік тому +22

    Thanks again FFRF

  • @MsAmazon2u
    @MsAmazon2u Рік тому +36

    "Last time we mixed Religion and Government, People got burned at the stake". This is my new bumper sticker!!!!!!! I need a second that says something about how religion was used to justify slavery.

    • @zap...
      @zap... Рік тому +2

      How about, Exodus 21:20-21
      20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

    • @dragondancer1814
      @dragondancer1814 Рік тому +6

      I want one that reads “Science is flying us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings!”

    • @MsAmazon2u
      @MsAmazon2u Рік тому +2

      @@dragondancer1814 So TRUE!!!!!! Love it!

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому

      Actually the last time we mixed religion and government, we got Israel and nazi Germany.
      Luckily, one of the two was destroyed before they could aquire nuclear weapons.

  • @cdorst2286
    @cdorst2286 Рік тому +53

    I live in Idaho, just south of the city of Boise. I almost didn't move here from Spokane Washington because I was worried about the racism. It was prevelant in the Spokane area and of course in North Idaho. I have since learned that Idaho has historically been pretty liberal. We had one of the first Jewish governors. As an Atheist, I am not out. I don't tell people that I am an atheist. Many know that I love metal/alternative music and have collections of skulls but I can't tell them that I don't believe in god. It's so sad. I was not raised religious and also not in this area but from an early age I knew not to tell people. Like it's some crazy secret!

    • @hildy208
      @hildy208 Рік тому +15

      Moved here from Oregon for the inexpensive houses (at the time lol). I thought how different could it be from Oregon? Boy was I wrong.

    • @cdorst2286
      @cdorst2286 Рік тому +12

      @@hildy208 I just hope the Greater Idaho movement doesn't get any headway. The last thing we need is more people that are conservatives

    • @p.a.andrews7772
      @p.a.andrews7772 Рік тому

      You're using a word from a myth or Caucasians would still be caucasians if you weren't lying .

    • @Limosethe
      @Limosethe Рік тому +4

      Why can't you say that you don't believe in God?

    • @johnengland8619
      @johnengland8619 Рік тому +2

      Ha ha. Perhaps in the future you will have more moxie. Remember you are not crazy. You are not making wild claims.
      Ask them WHY they believe what they believe? I have a full head of hair. I believe it because it is true I am just having trouble demonstrating that to you

  • @adropofgoldensun27
    @adropofgoldensun27 Рік тому +64

    As per sign in video, I usually pray " Dear Lord save us from your followers" 😂

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 Рік тому +1

      The "Thinking Atheists" did a video about this recently.

    • @nancyf1342
      @nancyf1342 Рік тому +1

      🤣🤣

    • @cnault3244
      @cnault3244 Рік тому

      The people holding the sign obviously haven't read the Bible.
      Romans 13:1-4 & 1 Peter 2:13-14 Say to be subject to every human institution. All authorities (laws and governments) are from God. If the Bible is true, this means whoever is in power is the person god wants there.
      Christians don't have to bother voting, god has this.

    • @Former_Pastor
      @Former_Pastor Рік тому +1

      Or lord, help me be like you, lazy and uncaring

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 7 місяців тому

      @@cnault3244The Christians I have talked to have one thing in common---They don't read and study their Bible. I do and I'm an atheist. I was a born again Christian until I really studied the Bible.

  • @maryroberts9315
    @maryroberts9315 Рік тому +78

    One of my pet peeves is that Idaho has a smaller population than the city I live in, but they have two senators. I don't think this was the vision of the Founding Fathers. They imagined the U.S. would be made up of states of similar size and populations.

    • @letsomethingshine
      @letsomethingshine Рік тому +17

      The Senate was SPECIFICALLY placed to make sure each State was equal regardless of population differences, that way each Governor would think were was some sort of "equality" and the rural farms would join the Union instead of siding with King George. The Senate was also seen as an easy WEDGE for the rich to support the New National Constitution, since they could most cheaply and simplistically control the Senate. And certainly the rich in each state would make sure their favored pro-rich Mercantilist representatives became the Senators.

    • @tkraftable
      @tkraftable Рік тому +14

      "They imagined the U.S. would be made up of states of similar size and populations." That's ludicrous.

    • @duanebidoux6087
      @duanebidoux6087 Рік тому +11

      N. Dakota, S Dakota, Nebraska, and Kansas in total, have fewer people than my city and they have 8 Republican senators.

    • @tabo01
      @tabo01 Рік тому

      yes, it was.

    • @joeharris3878
      @joeharris3878 Рік тому +3

      If the states did not get equal representation
      in at least one of the two houses of congress,
      the constitution would not have been ratified.
      Each of the thirteen former English colonies
      were all independent countries then.

  • @FirstLast-di5sr
    @FirstLast-di5sr Рік тому +45

    The Founding Fathers knew all too well the perils of marriage of church and state (Church of England), and they wanted to ensure it wouldn't happen in the United States. ☮❤

    • @doneestoner9945
      @doneestoner9945 Рік тому +2

      Yes, indeed.

    • @letsomethingshine
      @letsomethingshine Рік тому

      They kept all the tax breaks though, now Judges are who decide what are "State-Accepted" religions to get unfair tax benefits/deductions.

    • @jasonhunt007
      @jasonhunt007 Рік тому +4

      The Founders also knew about the witch burnings in Massachusetts.

    • @dayolddoughnuts4031
      @dayolddoughnuts4031 Рік тому

      Founding fathers put in the constitution of only implying to prevent a single dominant religion. Having religious based views with laws is allowed. Sorry if you don’t like to hear what hutch and state separation really is but that is the meat and doesn’t mean what you wan it to.

    • @joeharris3878
      @joeharris3878 Рік тому

      The writers and ratifyers of the Constitution
      included the 10 amendments to constrain Congress,
      including the establishment of a national religion to
      protect different churches in different states. And note:
      the leaders ( the elite) were not believers, but mainly
      followers of the trend of the time, Deism.

  • @plinkfuture2557
    @plinkfuture2557 Рік тому +29

    The ‘christian’ taliban

    • @Justin.Martyr
      @Justin.Martyr Рік тому

      *PreFer TalIban to youFiLthyDegenerates, Like the ShirtlessOne!!!*

    • @petersanders2815
      @petersanders2815 Рік тому +1

      Certainly many of the them would love to be.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому +1

      Laugh if you wish, but it's becoming a reality.
      A small band of Muslim dissidents managed to take out three of the largest buildings in NYC, along with the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania - along with 4 large jet airliners and several thousand American lives.
      The event caused the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, added TSA security to airports, and locked cockpits along with "Sky Marshall's " on board many domestic flights.
      Politically motivated supporters of a man (who is the equivalent of an old, angry Taliban cleric) in the USA managed to get inside of the Capitol building and nearly into the chamber occupied our elected officials. I shudder to think about what might have happened to them if those angry dissidents had found their way inside the Senate.

  • @weston.weston
    @weston.weston Рік тому +8

    We appreciate you, FFRF!

  • @thudor1
    @thudor1 Рік тому +27

    The fact that Idaho is the second most Mormon state doesn't help matters at all.

    • @janinecarson8380
      @janinecarson8380 Рік тому +1

      The Mormons and the Evangelicals are not necessarily on the same page. Evangelicals often disparage Mormons as not "true" Christians and the Mormons are only in favor of government/church fusion when they are the ones in charge.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому +2

      It's also the second most "red" state, slightly behind Mississippi... But not for long at the rate people are moving there.

    • @thudor1
      @thudor1 Рік тому

      @@tvtothepoint, Marjorie Taylor-Greene doesn't want the Blue State newcomers to "bring their woke values" and wants a five-year moratorium on their suffrage.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 7 місяців тому +1

      Actually there are more Mormons in California than in Idaho and Mormons live in the eastern part of the state. Their numbers decrease rapidly in Boise and north to the Canadian border.

  • @SevenLlamas
    @SevenLlamas Рік тому +8

    Lived in so. central ID 12 yrs. We watched a town just over the river deteriorate under the influence of Free Staters moving in, getting onto school boards and local govt commissions, then blocking road repairs, schools improvements, health regulations for CAFOs, etc. My husband, who uses a motorized cart, experienced this new christianity persomally on our final 2 shopping trips to that town's Walmart: a handful of shoppers followed hom around, deliberately blocking both ends of an aisle so that he was repeatedly hemmed in. Fortunately, our town soon opened its own big box store and we never had to shop north of the river again.

    • @petersanders2815
      @petersanders2815 Рік тому

      Sorry l don’t understand what’s going on. I’m Australian and over here we have a few religious whackos but this Christian nationalist thing isn’t a problem. I don’t understand how not fixing roads and schools or basically abusing the disabled or not having health regulations is somehow “Christian”. What’s the logic there? How do they relate that to Jesus? How do they justify it as a Christian thing? It just seems bat shit level crazy. I mean, not fixing roads will actually kill people.

  • @RobertDMoore
    @RobertDMoore Рік тому +51

    Stay vigilant for secularism at local and public places where democracy rules

    • @benjamindavey4782
      @benjamindavey4782 Рік тому +10

      This is very concerning- we're luckier in the UK, but still, Christian nationalism does loom, at least a bit.

    • @milascave2
      @milascave2 Рік тому

      robert: That is why they are already defunding public libraries in some places in. the USA. They can not, legally, censor them as they can with public school libraries. So they are just strangling them by cutting off public funding.

    • @thegentlymad5769
      @thegentlymad5769 Рік тому

      Should not Christian nationalists have a place in a democracy? Democracy is for the people… right? Are we all supposed to just pretend that we want to live next door to each other, and accept other people’s lifestyles? If that is the case, then what is the point of FFRF? What, it’s okay for atheists to promote and defend their agenda, but it’s beyond the pale for Christians? It seems to me that there are bigots on both sides of the spectrum.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit Рік тому

      @@thegentlymad5769 We just don't want Christians using the force of government to give Christians rights that we can't have.

  • @proudhavenot
    @proudhavenot Рік тому +6

    Lived there for 30 yrs. Geographically beautiful and plenty of room to play. Culturally, it's really bad, one of the main reasons for leaving. I don't think I'll even feel comfortable visiting friends that still live there. It's that crazy.

  • @MM4PeaceOnEarth
    @MM4PeaceOnEarth Рік тому +10

    I lived in Idaho as an atheist for decades and I was attacked physically, violently and repeatedly. The people there are against human rights, public education and honest sincere conversations about ethics, morality and equality. Idaho is becoming more extreme with an influx of people from other states bringing hate filled agendas. The gentrification of the entire state is happening now and it is a real threat to this nation's democracy. If you believe in equality and justice for all do not turn your back on the extremism of a state with a small population because it has grown by 50% in the past few years and the people there are selling military surplus and advertising this on billboards. If you believe in the constitution and the first amendment then stand up now before the conservatives put that on the "used to be" list along with Roe v. Wade!

    • @eugenesant9015
      @eugenesant9015 Рік тому

      I'm atheist and nobody attacks me....
      You're most likely a POS.

    • @princequestly2218
      @princequestly2218 Рік тому +1

      Religion throughout history has always gone to the extreme and violence to hold their status quo. Baghdad in the Middle East was once the center for science and language in the world. now it’s one of the most suppressed and least forward thinking places in the world.

  • @dianahill5116
    @dianahill5116 Рік тому +20

    The FBI and the Polk County Sheriff's should investigate sexual misconduct within the catholic church.

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 Рік тому

      Maybe the United States of America can have a direct hot-line to report sexual misconduct within the catholic/religious organizations.

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 Рік тому +5

      @Methodius ☦️
      Keep separation of church and state.

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 Рік тому +2

      Thankfully it is not unconstitutional, unlawful, rude or unethical to not obey, enroll, teach, learn, support, promote, participate or fund a religion.
      Regardless of the religion.

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 Рік тому +1

      @Methodius ☦️
      The FBI and Polk County Sheriff's have a zero tolerance of sexual predators.

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 Рік тому +1

      @Methodius ☦️
      The word incest came about in the 13th centuary CE, rape in the 14th centuary CE, and pedophile in 1951.
      ____
      Only recently the United States government has acknowledged that spousal rape is a crime.

  • @Phoenix-J81
    @Phoenix-J81 Рік тому +10

    Unfortunately, I live here.
    My husband and I are desperate to leave, (we were born here) but we can't afford it.
    Didn't mind growing up in this state but it has definitely taken a dangerous turn in the last 10 years.

    • @eugenesant9015
      @eugenesant9015 Рік тому

      Please leave.

    • @Phoenix-J81
      @Phoenix-J81 Рік тому

      @@eugenesant9015 🖕🖕 okay, Cali.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit Рік тому

      I'm not a conservative and I don't have any trouble.

    • @Phoenix-J81
      @Phoenix-J81 Рік тому

      @@PatrickThreewit be patient.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 7 місяців тому

      I live in a region in Idaho where the super wackos don't seem to have come. I'm an old man, a widower, and an atheist who isn't afraid to speak out and no one causes me any trouble. There are people trying to move here, including people from North Idaho, but prices are too high. There are quite a few libertarians in our region so it is still possible to find peace. In my area there are no interstate highways and in general we have the best climate, warmest. And we have three very large rivers. I live 5 hours from the nearest interstate.

  • @margaretjohnson6259
    @margaretjohnson6259 Рік тому +4

    "Wherever they burn books, in the end will also burn human beings." - Heinrich Heine

  • @Crodmog83
    @Crodmog83 Рік тому +2

    Im really glad i stumbled acrossed this channel. Thank's for the work you guy's do.

  • @BobS-0727
    @BobS-0727 Рік тому +3

    The sh*t happening here is absolutely insane.
    My daughter cannot take it anymore and is leaving everything she loves to get out.

  • @sandygreenleaf6586
    @sandygreenleaf6586 Рік тому +9

    I recently purchased an e-book by Sarah Posner titled Unholy: How White Christian Nationalists Powered The Trump Presidency And The Devastating Legacy They Left Behind. I've only read a few pages--now I need to finish it. I'm an atheist in WA state and this is a dangerous movement imo and the fact that it's right next door geographically is upsetting.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 7 місяців тому +1

      It is in all states, not just iDAHO.

  • @jackthebassman1
    @jackthebassman1 Рік тому +9

    From across the pond: how on earth has a supposedly modern country allowed religion to strangle it?

    • @margaretjohnson6259
      @margaretjohnson6259 Рік тому +4

      it's more the red states, not all states. the west coast and hawaii are ok and so are the new england states. so far.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 7 місяців тому

      The white conservative Christian nationalist movement began in this country in 1789, and though most followers of it are the minority, they are very vocal and are the majority in the government. The plan, as laid out in Project 2025, the 900+-page blueprint for conservative action, will pretty well take us to a Christian theocracy, where all citizens will have equal rights----------as long as they are Christian and the right evangelical Christian.

  • @princequestly2218
    @princequestly2218 Рік тому +4

    Not surprising that the “don’t tread on me people” want to tread on everyone else. Funny how that works.

  • @tamiweir417
    @tamiweir417 Рік тому +5

    I no longer live in Idaho. I do love the mountains. But it's getting hard to even visit. They are in love with their guns.

    • @eugenesant9015
      @eugenesant9015 Рік тому

      Damn straight.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit Рік тому

      Because of the NRA and GOA and conservatives, rural folks all over this country, not just Idaho, are buying guns. They may not know how to used them, but they are buying.

  • @The_Cali_Dude_88
    @The_Cali_Dude_88 Рік тому +12

    I'm pleased the majority of the nation want NOTHING to do with them or cHristianity

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому +4

      Ignoring the problem will only make it worse.
      This is a danger which needs to be ended before our nation becomes more politically divided than it already is.

  • @mrmojo88888
    @mrmojo88888 Рік тому +4

    "This American Life" podcast [Episode 792, at 17:32] has a good discussion about how doctors and OB GYNs are leaving Idaho, and how it's nearly impossible to recruit new doctors.

  • @landan4924
    @landan4924 Рік тому +2

    Politics seems to be the One World Religion!..... And so many people have embraced it..

  • @42percenthealth
    @42percenthealth Рік тому +11

    The candy bar in the water analogy was better than the lady making it realized. Just like you wouldn't give your kid water with poop in it, you wouldn't give them a book with p0rn in it. But just like the water didn't *actually* contain poop, the books in question do not *actually* contain p0rn. The fact that a queer character is represented is like a candy bar in the water and this lady is pretending it's poop. Lol.

    • @dragondancer1814
      @dragondancer1814 Рік тому

      Thanks, now I have that swimming pool scene from “Caddyshack” stuck in my head!

  • @jermsbestfriend9296
    @jermsbestfriend9296 Рік тому +2

    I really love this channel now

  • @bradleyavi
    @bradleyavi Рік тому +3

    I really appreciate your insights. I left Idaho 30 years ago. Your information is very engaging. Thanks

  • @dawndead9591
    @dawndead9591 Рік тому +3

    I'm seriously considering counter-prayers against
    Douglas Wilson's positions - fighting fake fire with
    fakier fire.
    And recently was a little disturbed and disappointed
    to hear Anthony Magnabosco say he was moderating
    his thinking against open-carry. A slipperier slope for all.

  • @sugaree71
    @sugaree71 Рік тому +2

    I was so fearful to drive through Idaho as a Jewish woman, right after or during the Bundy standoff in Utah, that I drove straight from Seattle to Montana. Also been studying cults, including as a virtual participant-observer in/of the alt-right while listening to the Daily Shoah podcast from early 2015-8. Not the best for my mental health, but I learned so much I’d otherwise never known.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому +2

      It's not difficult drive straight through Idaho from Washington state to Montana without stopping - it's only about 68 miles across that section of the Panhandle, but I can sympathize with you on avoiding it if you don't feel safe.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 7 місяців тому

      Only the real conspiracy fans were into the Bundy standoff in Nevada and the one in Oregon.

  • @82spiders
    @82spiders Рік тому +3

    There was something seriously wrong with the vibe in Idaho 50 years ago. Bicycled through the state in early 1970s. Pennsylvania, same,

    • @pie0ful
      @pie0ful Рік тому

      No the majority of Pa is NOT that at all!!

  • @margaretjohnson6259
    @margaretjohnson6259 Рік тому +5

    "live and let live" as long as you are white, christian, straight and male. not for anyone else.

  • @PCBEaR65
    @PCBEaR65 Рік тому +2

    Candybar and poop analogy can be used with describing the Bible and its salacious bits. I love how easy this game is with people who have a spoon-fed, child's eye view of their holy text. They fight to protect it with a child's rage, lacking the adult understanding of context and temperence with that irrational mindset.

  • @bonnieclark8069
    @bonnieclark8069 Рік тому +2

    How can we help stop Christian Nationalism.

  • @weirdsciencetv4999
    @weirdsciencetv4999 Рік тому +5

    I like to troll religious right by pointing out how god fails to protect innocent people from dying

    • @jdarst100
      @jdarst100 Рік тому +1

      I just like to troll them all day long. And get them triggered is easy. Go Joe lock em up

  • @timgriffin3368
    @timgriffin3368 Рік тому +2

    This area is why I Always reside in cities, big cities. Hillbillies and ignorant people scare me to death.

  • @p.a.andrews7772
    @p.a.andrews7772 Рік тому +11

    Truthfully I'm sure Arkansas and some states around it especially Texas and Tennessee or even worse !

    • @rebeccadubois8270
      @rebeccadubois8270 Рік тому

      ​@Methodius ☦️ I don't.
      Christians are the biggest threat to U.S democracy right up next to tiktok.

    • @UlexiteTVStoneLexite
      @UlexiteTVStoneLexite Рік тому +4

      ​@Methodius ☦️ I think you are the problem

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch Рік тому

      @Methodius ☦️ People are waking up to the insidiousness of the fundamentalist christian cults that want impose their ideology on everyone through christian nationalism. These cults have plenty of useful idiots that try to downplay their deceptive tactics. Don't be one of their useful idiots.

    • @exceptionallyaverage3075
      @exceptionallyaverage3075 Рік тому +2

      ​@@rebeccadubois8270 Hell yes. Way more of a threat than islam could ever be.

  • @user-yv3wr9pr5t
    @user-yv3wr9pr5t Рік тому +4

    "Christian nationalism" is an oxymoron. Jesus did not preach nationalism to the people. He preached repentance and the Kingdom of God, not loyalty to a flag or a constitution. Nationalism can easily become idolatry and result in a legalistic theocracy.

  • @rodgerbane3825
    @rodgerbane3825 Рік тому +3

    Oh my, How I DO wish it was, their own Private Idaho and the rest of us need not be troubled by them.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому

      No way. I have to deal with these crazies on a daily basis. They're flocking here like flies on poop, which is what this beautiful area is fast becoming because they lack the bascis of civilized social skills, like picking up your own trash.

    • @eugenesant9015
      @eugenesant9015 Рік тому

      So do we.

  • @jimkonen1913
    @jimkonen1913 Рік тому +25

    Christian nationalism has nothing to do with Christianity. It's just a loophole for those who use their beliefs as an excuse for their bias and hatred toward others whom they judge to be not as perfect as them. They have apparently lost sight of the fact that Gawd is the one who does the judging, not mere mortals like them.

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch Рік тому +2

      Christianity has many oppressive fundamentalist forms. Christian scripture is full of horrible passages that can be interpreted as supporting an oppressive authoritarian culture.

    • @williamgreenfield9991
      @williamgreenfield9991 Рік тому +1

      The "No True Scotsman" argument in all it's glory. "Those people are not truly Christians". Sorry, yes, they are.

    • @TeresaElainePhoenixArizona
      @TeresaElainePhoenixArizona Рік тому +4

      There is No God.

    • @jdarst100
      @jdarst100 Рік тому +2

      There is no god. Now go have a nice day

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому

      They are the only ones doing the judging.

  • @deborahlincoln-strange622
    @deborahlincoln-strange622 Рік тому +7

    I believe in God. But I also think there should be separation of Church and State in this world because sadly many misuse religion.

  • @ComeCleanAmerica
    @ComeCleanAmerica Рік тому +3

    In reality, it is "Prey on America".

  • @GC21771
    @GC21771 Рік тому +2

    If "god" is put in place of laws, then it is only up to the "faithful" to discern what is right. Not entirely sure what to label this if not theocracy it is certainly lunacy ascribed arbitrarily by those " in the spirit "
    What of the rest of us that believe in the separation of church and state ?

  • @julzee111
    @julzee111 3 місяці тому

    Is it legal to carry? In Idaho

  • @marks340
    @marks340 Рік тому

    I like this dude. He seems like a genuinely good person. I commend u, sir.
    And your shirt's pretty cool

  • @PortmanRd
    @PortmanRd Рік тому +1

    How like a door the knowledge
    we attain ,
    Which door is on the bourne of
    inane;
    It opens and our nothingness is closed,----
    It closes and in darkness we remain.
    Al-Ma'rri

  • @charlottecampbell4327
    @charlottecampbell4327 Рік тому +1

    American Facists (2007) a must read.

  • @cmasseylynch
    @cmasseylynch Рік тому +2

    When the Evangelical leaders - ie paula white etc put their hands on Trump and Prayed - he played along - later he said to M Cohen "can you believe people believe that bullshit?" page 133 Cohen's book Disloyal

    • @petersanders2815
      @petersanders2815 Рік тому

      Yes, you could see the smirk on his face when this happened. It was if he was thinking “ wow, these guys are even bigger grifters than me”.

  • @erpthompsonqueen9130
    @erpthompsonqueen9130 Рік тому

    Curious if the guests have any insights into the extreme elements in Moscow/ Idaho / Northwest in respect to the murders there.

  • @lonelyp1
    @lonelyp1 Рік тому +2

    What can we do for America that is actually useful?

  • @PatrickThreewit
    @PatrickThreewit Рік тому +1

    Idaho is not just North Idaho. I live in Idaho and the people I talk to want nothing to do with North Idaho and I live in the Panhandle but farther south. However some of the Californians moving here tend to be Christian nationalist and arrogant.

    • @jdarst100
      @jdarst100 7 місяців тому

      I'm from Idaho and love it. Have seen some gatherings of some shady characters but nothing I don't see everywhere if you're looking, they're out there. Always has been, and always will be. No big deal.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 7 місяців тому

      @@jdarst100Are you in North Idaho or the Boise area and how long have you lived here and are you in favor of Christian nationalism?

  • @moniquedelaney7958
    @moniquedelaney7958 Рік тому +1

    Bon courage . What a job ahead !

  • @West3720
    @West3720 Рік тому

    FFRF,
    Can you share the full video of that meeting

  • @lisahuppert8585
    @lisahuppert8585 Рік тому +2

    I live in Moscow and Christ Church is a nightmare

  • @sharondavid-melly1498
    @sharondavid-melly1498 Рік тому +1

    People of faith can be very confident but if hypocrites it's in reality extremely shallow. I am a Christian and can tell you these people are toothless cowards because they don't accept reality.

  • @drumcircler
    @drumcircler Рік тому +1

    So sick of malicious religious fervor.

  • @milascave2
    @milascave2 Рік тому +3

    Idaho and Montana have indeed long been a center of white Christian nationalism for quite a while.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit Рік тому

      Only in northern counties--Kootenai, Bonner, and Boundary. But the book banning is a growing threat in other counties.

  • @jujudude4196
    @jujudude4196 Рік тому

    Does anyone know the title of the book Josiah mentioned

  • @Metonymy1979
    @Metonymy1979 Рік тому

    Keep up the good fight!

  • @chrysanthemum3065
    @chrysanthemum3065 Рік тому +2

    I'd rather die than live in Idaho.

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit Рік тому

      I'd rather live in Idaho than in the Bible Belt of the South.

  • @SunofYork
    @SunofYork Рік тому

    Why are FFRF subscriptions so high ? Same as the televangelists lol....Stops me from joining

  • @jntaylor63
    @jntaylor63 Рік тому +2

    I could do without potatoes if it ment closing this state off from the rest of the Union. We could set up a relocation programs for those who want to get the hell out of there.

    • @jntaylor63
      @jntaylor63 Рік тому

      @The-Skinn why? What would this country lose ? These same "freedom loving, constitution supporting followers of Christ" would love nothing more than do the exact opposite to anyone not straight, white or evangelical.

    • @montyjackson8156
      @montyjackson8156 Рік тому

      @@The-Skinn You need help to get out of your cult.

  • @donaldcarpenter5328
    @donaldcarpenter5328 Рік тому +1

    We lived in Sandpoint, Idaho and that was where we were living on 9-11-2001 and moved BACK to Western Washington (Seattle) a year later. Our 6 year sojourn in North Idaho in the 1990's was like a LONG vacation. We had 4 seasons. Rent and power were low, food was low PAY was LOW. I guess we lived there in a"ood" period.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому

      Yep, now those good things about living here are long gone, including the 4 seasons.
      (resistance to increased pay in order to meet rising costs is also still a thing)

  • @ShortBusScotty
    @ShortBusScotty Рік тому

    I keep praying but they are still here.

  • @Jake-zc3fk
    @Jake-zc3fk Рік тому +2

    Conversely, the Founding Father’s also recognized the individuals right to defend themselves from what ever form of oppression that might prevail. It is not just “Christian Fundamentalists” that oppose over reach of rule, it’s many others, and many of those others are flocking to Idaho simply for a “like minded” sense of freedom from oppression. Are the “religious nut jobs” a part of this view, most certainly, but they are not the totality of this view either.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому

      How does increased legislation lead to reduced harm from government?
      It takes money to fight Washington, and that money mainly comes via increased taxes, as does the modern infrastructure demanded by all these new transplants from gentrified places now flocking to Idaho.
      (flocking, like proverbial sheep)

  • @littlewingmyoho
    @littlewingmyoho Рік тому +1

    Its so crazy that the dream demon Charlton from Africa is touring the country... You can't make this sht up 😑

    • @littlewingmyoho
      @littlewingmyoho Рік тому +3

      I decided to read the Bible recently and its blowing my mind how people followed such myth.Its not even cohesive.

  • @Spillers72
    @Spillers72 Рік тому +1

    What is wokeness? Humanistic Nationalism. I'm not a nationalist period, I'm Christian and libertarian, live and let live what I think.

  • @erpthompsonqueen9130
    @erpthompsonqueen9130 Рік тому

    Would like to have his entire list of biblical examples.

  • @heathercors302
    @heathercors302 Рік тому +1

    Ottawa County Michigan needs help! And I am willing to do so!
    We have a group called Ottawa impait's so far they have canceled on the 1st day they were Seated, hour DEI office the only one in our county

  • @mikearchibald744
    @mikearchibald744 Рік тому +2

    This was interesting, I got a kick out of the title 'ask an atheist', as if thats somehow an expertise now:) "Ask a bald guy" would be next, but I'm joking.
    From what I've seen of other areas, religious dogmatism usually proliferates in areas of economic abandonment by capital investment. In North America thats rural places which are basically used for resources, then abandoned when the resources are gone. HIstorically the population is disposable, and brought in initially from other areas and not meant to put down roots,thats why you see ghost towns all over.
    Some stay, and essentially the religious extremism comes FROM the economic disenfranchisement, becaues you DONT see it so much in urban areas or rich areas.
    So the issue in america is whether such populations were well known to be created by policy planners and capitalists who simply abandon entire demographic and geographic areas as what they now call 'zones of sacrifice'. In other words, are these the predictable consequence of modern american capitalism? I don't know, but it 'seems' to be true, and if true it means that the danger is NOT 'them', its the makeup of the federalist system of corporatism which CREATES them, because if the modern economy teaches nothing else, its that human beings are becoming less and less necessary as producers in the economy, particularlyt he resource economy which is rurallly located. So the problem is only going to get much worse.

  • @pie_tor4116
    @pie_tor4116 Рік тому +1

    The/our federal government needs to cut off all federal funding of all state that have out lawed abortion. And I think a national divorce is a great idea.

  • @malissahyatt2425
    @malissahyatt2425 Рік тому +2

    Is potato.

  • @bobcourtier4674
    @bobcourtier4674 Рік тому

    Sharia law in Idaho?

  • @oliviawilliams6204
    @oliviawilliams6204 Рік тому

    Need to tell that woman about the book of Ezekiel, and Song of Solomon, she will want to ban the Bible too.

  • @westmax8491
    @westmax8491 Рік тому +1

    Idaho reminds me of far cry 5

  • @MrVader282
    @MrVader282 Рік тому

    Idaho is moving toward Germany 1930, they are blind the the destruction that will come as a result of this,

  • @spearsinspines
    @spearsinspines Рік тому

    Pray for their critical thinking skills (or utter lack thereof)

  • @darthskeptus9911
    @darthskeptus9911 Рік тому +1

    While I agree this crap needs to be stopped, it's not going to be stopped by a race-grifter like Mannion. The whole "everyone is racist but me" schtick backfires every time; all Mannion is doing is reinforcing their viewpoints, especially for the ones that aren't racist, and isn't convincing to those that may not be very far right, but open to more moderate ideologies.

  • @johnbillings5260
    @johnbillings5260 Рік тому

    How can he breathe? 🤣

  • @joeharris3878
    @joeharris3878 Рік тому +1

    Since there is a high proportion
    Mormon population in Idaho,
    I don't think a Christian influence
    on state politics is likely.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому +1

      You obviously don't live in Idaho, or you'd understand just how big a role religion plays in government here.

    • @joeharris3878
      @joeharris3878 Рік тому +1

      @@tvtothepoint No, I don't live
      in Idaho....hardly anyone does.
      My point is Mormonism
      isn't a part of Christianity.

    • @tvtothepoint
      @tvtothepoint Рік тому

      @@joeharris3878
      I wouldn't know. I'm not Mormon, and it's not as much a part of the state in the area where I live, but you began your statement with "in Idaho". If you don't live in Idaho, you don't really understand those demographics, despite what polls may say.
      What are you using for comparison? What are your merits for "high proportion"?
      Have you examined the Idaho state legislatiure in detail enough to understand that you're quite possibly very wrong with that statement?
      What is the percentage of Mormons in office in Boise, as compared with Christians in general?
      It's not such an easy thing to provide evidence for claims, but it's easy to make claims on social media, and idiots will simply nod and agree without fact checking you.

    • @joeharris3878
      @joeharris3878 Рік тому

      @@tvtothepoint of course Utah has the most Mormons,
      but Idaho is second behind in per cent of the population in the Mormon cult,
      and the third after Utah and Calif. in numbers....there are nearly a half million.
      I don't live in Idaho, just vacation and worked wildfire there. It is heavily
      Mormon when compared to the rest of the US.

    • @valroniclehre193
      @valroniclehre193 Рік тому +1

      Mormon ways of thinking and christian ways of thinking have enough overlap that the same problems can be reinforced by both. Mostly tribalism, like racism, blasphemy, antiscience, ect ect.

  • @jasonmuniz-contreras6630
    @jasonmuniz-contreras6630 Рік тому +1

    You mean Protestant Anglo American nationalism.

  • @angeladansie4378
    @angeladansie4378 Рік тому +1

    Christian Karens are terrifying

  • @ianandrewjack
    @ianandrewjack Рік тому

    It's all a bit Karl Lueger Idaho.

  • @your_being_led_by_your_nose
    @your_being_led_by_your_nose Рік тому +2

    look… An IQ of 100… (I mean all of them.)

  • @Jess-kz2wn
    @Jess-kz2wn Рік тому +2

    This is not Chrisianity.

  • @aservantofJEHOVAH7849
    @aservantofJEHOVAH7849 Рік тому

    Christian nationalism is an oxymoron.

  • @dayolddoughnuts4031
    @dayolddoughnuts4031 Рік тому

    Isn’t it awesome how separation of church and state doesn’t actually mean what you want it to? The reason stated is for prevention of a single dominant religion and that is the the “separation of church and state”….not what you like is it? 😁

  • @julzee111
    @julzee111 3 місяці тому

    Oh sorry, I had no idea you were gay

  • @2zarlin
    @2zarlin 6 місяців тому

    You guys are so so lost . I’ll pray for you .

  • @SS-ku3bm
    @SS-ku3bm Рік тому

    Lol!

  • @kalijasin
    @kalijasin Рік тому +2

    Shame on you Christians!

  • @i_like_the_number_7
    @i_like_the_number_7 Рік тому +1

    Looks like moving to Idaho has amazing perks

  • @josiahvonb3426
    @josiahvonb3426 Рік тому

    My name is josiah, why dose everyone ad a Z to the name, it is easy, three syllables JO-SI-AH, no z.

    • @kleenmaint
      @kleenmaint Рік тому

      Ignorance by any other name is still ignorance.

  • @timothye5936
    @timothye5936 Рік тому

    Thank god(s) I don’t live in a red state !

  • @brankobelfranin8815
    @brankobelfranin8815 Рік тому

    Lots of potatoe heads over there

  • @larry1824
    @larry1824 Рік тому

    I guess you have to let them measure your nose