Arena: Tales of Rock 'N' Roll - Peggy Sue (1993)
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Arena Presents Tales of Rock 'N' Roll - Peggy Sue (1993)
The 1st part of BBC Arena's Tales of Rock 'N' Roll series that looks into Buddy Holly's 1957 recording Peggy Sue (amongst other things!)
Peggy Sue Gerron Rackham tells how Buddy Holly's songs Peggy Sue and Peggy Sue Got Married came to be written. She went to the same high school as Holly and married drummer Jerry Allison. Other people recall the era, including Donna Fox who inspired Ritchie Valens' song, Donna.
There are also insights into Peggy Sue's business venture where she runs a drain clearing company called Rapid Rooter in Sacramento California, the producers seem to take quite a bit of interest(?!) in this because they make a lot of referrals to this fact including capturing someone testing the flushing of their toilet!
NOTE: A fair bit of film is re-used in this programme from the 1985 Arena episode "The Real Buddy Holly Story" including the interviews and drumming demonstrations from Jerry Allison (he was never interviewed for this programme) but are of good relevance to the documentary concerned.
Originally broadcast on 17th April 1993 (BBC2)
THIS HAS NEVER HAD A REPEAT BROADCAST.
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Sonny Curtis is the only surviving member of the Crickets at 85yrs young, ... Joe B passed in 2015 & JI passed several wks ago ... RIP boys... I salute your talent 🙏👍
My mom took that graduation photo! To my mom it was just a portrait photographer gig, she didn't care about either rock & roll or celebrity status. She did like Peggy Sue as a person and Peggy Sue appreciated the fact that someone liked her for who she was, and not because she was a celebrity. They kept in touch for many years.
Thanks for sharing ,I love Peggy Sue ,I’m sad she’s gone 😰
I met Peggy Sue when I was on tour back in 1998. She could not have been sweeter!!
Boy JI s got an incredible sense of rhythm ,makes it look so easy !
HOY, FEBRERO 03 DE 2019 SE CONMEMORA LOS 60 AÑOS DEL ACCIDENTE QUE QUITÓ LA VIDA DE BUDDY, RITCHIE Y BIG. ES EL LLAMADO ''EL DÍA QUE MURIÓ EL ROCK AND ROLL. UN SENTIDO HOMENAJE A ESTOS MÚSICOS QUE DIERON SU VIDA ALEGRANDO A LA JUVENTUD DE ESA ÉPOCA. DESCANSEN EN PAZ Y GRACIAS POR ENTREGARNOS VUESTROS TALENTOS.-
RIP Peggy Sue.
Wow, that plane crash looks brutal. I cannot imagine the thoughts one would be thinking going down in that wreck..richi vallens was only 17 years old is tragic.
Love the story about these three great singers... my favorite ones from that time.
Eddie Cochrane can slot in for Big Bopper in my list, or even Jimmy Clanton. Bopper is a cool cat, but c'mon now.
i miss the 3 guys who died in the plane crash.i dont watch labamba any more it makes me very sad to think about theguys.i call counsin bruce on xm radio to request come on lets go by richie.i tell cousin bruce to play it for every body.every time i call cousin bruce that is what i wanted playd.i think of them as my own persenal family i got mutch love for there music.my name is kenneth addison from louisville,kentucky
La Bamba is not completely accurate. Richie was not scared to fly and I am sure they took other liberties maybe not big ones but some other liberties like times and things. However, It is still a good movie and yes very sad I feel so sad for Donna. Imagine had he lived they might be married with kids today, on the one hand, she has the song but on the other hand, all she has of the boy she once loved is a song. Depends on how you look at it or if you're a glass half empty or glass half full type of person.
In the 1970s I knew a bartender who claimed to be the real Peggy Sue but she sure wasn't this lady. Little did she know the internet would expose her lies 45 years later.
These girls have memories that are worth a treasure
Peggy Sue seems really nice and sophisticated
Same with Donna.
RIP Peggy Sue :(
Wow. Didn't know she passed away. 😔
Peggy sue has that girls name that represents the 50s to me because of this song.
@@annasloan2349 Originally the song was called Cindy Lou ;)
@@8-bitsteve500 lol cindy lou sounds like it would have worked as well.
I was sad to hear months ago that she died. Her family confirmed it.
It's interesting to know that Peggy Sue and Donna both settled and established themselves successfully in Sacramento, California.
I watched La Bamba and was curious about the real Donna.
such a loss that he died so young...
there should be over a million views
So there should, it may not be much but I used to love watching this when I was a kid in the 1990's. This was also the first documentary program I saw related to Buddy Holly and this was also the first program that includes archive film of him that I saw for the first time in my childhood. All of the mentioned reasons I have written applies to the next part of Arena's 4 parter - that is releated to the man who was crowned "The King" due to the untimely death of Buddy.
i agree great history
Esta muy bien el video pero megustaria que los pusieran sustitulados gracias saludos👍👏👏👏
I wish I could have met Peggy Sue before she passed. To the very end she always spoke very highly of Buddy Holly.
i was one when this doc came out
Man those actual videos of the crash site are so graphic it's hard to watch.. especially when u see colorized photos..and you see blood and the bright yellow coat Buddy was wearing.. it's hard to look at but I something makes it so I gotta look and I can't look away.... :(
Buddy married Maria Elena Santiago in August 15th she is Mexican his manager petty disapproved of the marriage and advised Buddy to keep it a secret to avoid upsetting his females fans
Nope . She is Puerto Rican.
She is puerto Rican
Octavia Lopez Puerto Rican but in those times it was the same difference.. was unacceptable
I look just like buddy holly.
No, Maria Elena Santiago is Puerto Rican. I had no idea his manager preferred him to keep quiet about his interracial marriage. I wonder if Norman Petty was a racist? He did Buddy wrong by holding his money I learned. And that's why Buddy was forced to go on that winter dance tour.
On a crappy, broken down, bus with no heat. Which forced him to call ahead that fateful day in Iowa in 1959 to rent a plane. To make matters worse, had Maria not been pregnant, she would have been there with him and he probably would have never thought about a plane.
So what happened to Maria and his kid? 🤔
@@onetwo6039 not sure what happened to maria but she miscarried their baby.
They don't really talk about Donna and Ritchie too much....
The real Donna Ludwig had shoulder length blonde hair unlike Dannielle Von Zernek whom had longer hair in the movie LaBamba.
Dona Ludwig wore ponytails too like the actress in the movie so it was hard to tell. Besides the movie captured the heart of the story. Yes, they did get some things wrong and take liberties. But overall they did it right I would be more picky about the fact that Richie Valens was not scared to fly then I would be of Donna's hair as long as they got the coin toss between Richie and Alsup right. Because that is a key fact that cannot be screwed up. Or the fact of BIG BOPPER having the flu or the drummer having frostbite. Because that was the reason a seat was available on Buddy's plane to start with his drummer got frostbite in his toe from the bus freezing. So not only was the frostbite crucial to JP (BOPPER) being on the plane. it wasalso a huge reason Buddy Holly even got the plane. so as long as they get those facts straight the tiny things don't matter to me as a viewer.
@@aprildannettegosa5381 thats how i feel also. I have loved music from the 50s since i was a kid in the 80s. Something about that rockabilly sound of buddy holly is my favorite style of rock and roll.
It bothers me when movies take liberties with peoples life story that are crucial to their lives..not hair colors and stuff like thwt but flipping a coin for a spot on a doomed plane, thats crucial. I jave heard recently dions story has changed about the coin flip and who was actually sick with the flu..that it was bopper not valens..if i could go back and look at certain moments in time i would want to peak in on that night and see what happened to place certains on the plane and certains on the bus.
Dion is the most important and underappreciated living legend of the very first wave of rockers still alive and well, and amazingly still making admittedly less-awesome but still decent music to this very day. I love Dion, I love his whole "I'm a fockin' teetotaling asshole from da Bronx and nobody fockin' appreciates my legendary status but ayyyy it's all good with Jesus but what the fock aw yoo fockin' peephole thinkin not worshippin me" vibe he's got goin on.
That said, he may have made all that shit up for extremely unclear reasons. Sometimes guys with the least need to feel insecure about themselves & their legacy, feel the most insecure about themselves and their legacy, and while that's what motivates them to greatness, it also plagues them and warps their judgement. Is that him? Dunno, possibly, I have a hard time believing those country dolts from Buddy's B-team even had the wherewithal and capacity to understand the temptation to be untruthful, so that means for me that they're probably not randomly lying, so does that mean Dion is bullshit? Idk. Maybe coins were flippin' & flyin' around all over the fuckin place shimmering spinning around in the air & smackin' the backs of rockabilly mitts, spelling all sorts of terrible doom & disaster v. legendary narrow escape for all sorts of A-side rockers, undercard talent, all the way on down to the trumpet player for all we know. Somehow, I doubt very seriously that that scenario occurred, and tend to think odds set with one coin toss having happened, and that means it's simply who you believe v. Who is fulla shit.
😮😮😮😮🇩🇰i didnt know buddy holly had a sister wow
immortalized in song but they can't visit the crash site.
Maybe because they were still wrapped up in all of the emotion that was involved at the time, when that happened probably everything in life just stopped for them both.
Although Peggy Sue married the drummer of The Crickets and Buddy Holly married Maria Elena I think she still had a huge soft spot for him, back then and at the time of filming of this program.
In the scene before the credits roll at the end you can see that she visits his grave where he is buried and puts flowers down there for him, and lovely scene where the sun is slowly setting in.
@@willtaylor7883 wow, wasn't until now that I always thought buddy and Peggy were a couple. Thanks for sharing.
@@onetwo6039 same here.
@@onetwo6039 That would of been the plan.
SUCH A SHAME THIS HAPPENED
This was just aired again on BBC Four yesterday (Feb 9, 2024).
The song Donna was not really inspired by her. The song was originally written for a girl called Mercy. It was written by Conrad "Nino" Jones, and one of the other boys of Ritchie's group The Sillouhettes. Conrad was said to be the one who had the idea of writing the song because he had a huge crush on that young lady Mercy who was said to be the sister of one of the group members. Donna wasn't attracted to Ritchie, many were interviewed and an author got their stories. Some of Ritchie's friends even said that she was using him. She started liking him when he got famous; when that song came out. There's so much more to tell. I was very disappointed when I learned the truth. La Bamba was way too dressed up. It was Hollywoodnized too much. Even Ritchie's aunt said the movie was 80% inaccurate. Donna came from a racist family, and it rubbed off on her too. I don't like her. At least all of these years later she admitted that she didn't love Ritchie, nor was she in love with him, and she said the actress who played her was nothing like how she is for real.
Really wow that's sad! How could she not be in love with Ritchie? She said that she never loved him? That's difficult to believe since he was so handsome and seemed like such a sweet kid! That song alone would make any girl fall in love! Too bad! He deserved a girl better than her then.
What...... For Realz. Thats crazy. But yeah no one ever really elaborated or spoke more on the scene where the dad was obviously rascist.
Where did you read all this? I’m been trying to read up on it. But I couldn’t find anything.
Not true ,Donna isn’t racist ,her father was and didn’t want her seeing him !not her fault ,what she says is she was very fond of him and thought he was such a nice guy and wished her father had gotten to know him and given him a chance , but at fifteen she was just a kid who didn’t know what love is .Her father all of a sudden became interested in RV after he died because Donna put his family on the map !! And talked her into recording a song as he thought it would bring in fame and $$$ ,it being offered to her post accident ,once the industry realized who she was ,they wanted to capitalize on her ! She detested this and was furious at her father ,and i don’t think they ever made up .She says right here his death REALLY affected her !! So get your facts straight .Richie wrote this to her to express his sadness over her father not letting her see him !!
Perhaps she liked bad boys and if she had encountered Bob, he would have knocked her like he did Rosie and then played it off to Ritchie like he didn't know, "wait a minute, did I just hone in on something between you and.... "
"Nevermind, you will never change!" retorts Ritchie.
It funny she refers to herself as Buddy Holly’s Peggy Sue when really she is Jerry Allison’s Peggy sue as song was originally Cindy Lou.
I think she means that as in song, but on the other hand she probably is referring to being his Peggy Sue as from what I gather (or believe even) is that her break-up and divorce from Jerry Allison was quite a bitter one.
He himself revealed in a much more recent documentary program on Buddy that he thought it should of stayed as it was intended and not changed from Cindy Lou.
@@WillTube1990 wow. Interesting.
@@WillTube1990 i think jerry prob said that out of bitterness but i would bet that jerry wanted the song to say peggy sue..i mean he went on to marry peggy sue so he clearly loved her at one point.
I think Donna likely had Valens friend-zoned, to use the parlance of recent years. She was only 15, and had every right to do as she wished with whomever she wished, maybe was not ready for all that Valens was looking for, which was a wife, in all probability.
Its possible Donna hardly even knew Ritchie by the the time he left us. There are many exploitative and awkward press photo spreads of a poorly-sullen-acting, unintentionally bored looking Donna Ludwig, cringily clutching various goofy items in the wake of Valens' death.
Perhaps it was her father's doing, maybe she enjoyed the attention, in fact I would bet it all that she damn well loved it quietly, and had embarrassing dreams of getting "discovered" from all those fake-sad press photos and articles about the "real Donna" from after the tragedy.
In any case, one gets the feeling she didnt know Valens nearly as much as has been believed from the way she talks like they were great friends, yet peculiarly barely can recite a single specific... anything...about the young man. "He was nice, he liked things, he liked guitar, tacos." Thats my impression of her response to what Ritchie was like. Yet imagine how awkward that would be if you were her, and you knew you hardly knew him, but now your weirdo dad is calling all the newspapers, pitching a story about the "real YOU" in an attempt to cash-in on this guy's brutal and horrific death, all while you secretly adore the attention and though protesting against your father, you quietly hope to god je will keep those press fellas showing up with flash bulbs & goofy awkward shit to clutch while looking bored and pouty-sad, and hope it makes you a movie star, while also trying to remember literally anything at all about a guy who had a big crush on you, but whom you barely knew beyond the basic plain details from the dozen short chats and second-base sessions shared as you realized he was going to be famous and swiftly moved to make em yours, only to realize you actually couldn't force yourself to like/love him, regardless of his rising status and yournown insatiable thirst for attention. Complex and difficult time for poor Doney.
Buddy Holly left a wife behind and was his widow. Why are you all ignoring Maria Elena and focusing on Peggy Sue?
My god talk about shallow women