@@Lurreable A normal cable can curl up over time and if it does, eventually get damaged from said curling - something a braided cable prevents. A good braided cable will not get easily scraped either. The one on my G502 that I've used for almost 5 years only has a little bit of damage. Which I can barely see anyway. Lastly, your dust argument doesn't make sense as dust will collect on any type of cable, even a regular one.
Gonna have to challenge you on this one. They might be Cherry branded and have a nice red color, they are NOT designed to feel like standard profile Cherry Red mechanical switches. Other than the color, there's very little parallel between the Low Profile Red / Rapidfire switches and their non-LP siblings when it comes to overall feel.
Regular Cherry MX keycaps fit the _switches_ ... but not the _stabilisers_ for the wider keys. The latter are different than standard Cherry MX stabilisers.
I've waited 7 months for this keyboard since last summer. I've been extremely excited and ready to buy this thing. After watching this, I'm actually pretty hesitant. I'm so accustomed to laptop keyboards and I game often, so I feel like it'd be a good purchase, but the lack of a mute button as well as the lack of feet on the bottom of the keyboard are major drawbacks for me.
We didn't include feet to save on cost and because the angle we have it at is actually perfect for keeping your wrists straight over the board. We hoped that some basic ergonomics would be more useful. As for the mute button, we actually hadn't included that on most of our keyboards, except for the MK750 which had dedicated media keys, and we had never heard any feedback about it until this video. We're working on finding a way to add that functionality.
@@CoolerMasterGaming yo, CM Gaming, indeed, I presumed the lack if adjustable feet would be a drawback, instead the keyboard is perfect and solved the aching fingers I had from a normal size one. All I can say is that I would have accepted a higher price for a USB passthrough. Another thing for the future, maybe raise the 3 LOCK indicators a bit, the tenkey buttons are obstructing the view if you are laid back.
Keyboard incline is anti-ergonomic and has no benefits whatsoever anyway. The only reason to really incline your keyboard forward is if you have to see the legends because you can't touch type, in which case, git gud. In fact, a negative incline in the other direction is better for ergonomics, but almost no keyboards allow that.
SK650 seems like a perfect keyboard for me. Full size, RGB, Low Profile with a Minimalism design. I wish other manufacturer make more of these. Simple and elegant design.
Sad they seem to have messed up a few things. I don't care about the angle adjustment but I hate that it looks like it has a fairly steep angle by default. Would be much better if it was flat and had feet to bring it up to an angle. I guess I'll wait another year for a good mechanical chiclet keyboard (been using a Deathstalker for around 6 years now)
It looks nice and sleek... but my cheaper Glorious Gaming GMMK TKL has more features and switch choices than the SK keyboard. Cooler master really dropped the ball on this; considering the design was really nice.
This is like the only keyboard in existence that has both Cherry MX low profile switches and chicklet keys. Apart from the price, this keyboard has everything I've been looking for a long time.
@@mmiikkee41 what about the Havit keyboards on Amazon, they also have low profile keycaps and kailh switches that feel smoother than most cherry switches.
$140 price point demands independent media/volume keys as mandatory. As for the missing clips to angle the keyboard, those clips are actually bad from an ergonomic stand point. That is, angled keyboards actually place more strain on wrists and the clips are actually in place for non-touchtypers to help see the keys better. If you are a touchtyper who rarely or never looks at the keyboard it is best to lay the keyboard flat. Most people don't realize this, but quick research will show its validity.
Thanks for your feedback. That's exactly why we have the angle of the SK630 set where we do. As for the price point, your opinion is fair, though a low profile keyboard costs significantly more to produce than the same keyboard with standard switches. It would have led to extra cost that we would have had to pass on to consumers.
@HardwareCanucks An epilepsy warning should have been in place for 6:05-6:14. For those with photosensitive epilepsy, skip this section. Head to 6:14. The skipped section demonstrates the speed at which the RGB effects can go, which is very high. For the missed audio due to the time skip, the current sentence at 6:14 is "The media playback buttons are integrated right above the arrow keys but, oddly enough, I think Cooler Master forgot to include a mute button."
What are you talking about? The USB-C cable is very much capable to be used for a pass-through USB port. You don't need a thicker cable for that either. I have a USB 3.0 hub that has an even thinner cable and works like a charm. Even if it was USB 2.0, a pass-through port would be very much appreciated for wireless mouse dongles etc.
@@online_cat He said the cable would need to be thicker if there had to be a USB-pass-trough port. But that's not necessary. And you don't need USB 3.0 for a pass-through because even USB 1.1 supports USB-hubs.
No brightness adjustment isn't really accurate. When you adjust the color in the software, you can adjust the saturation on the horizontal axis, and the brightness on the vertical axis. You just can adjust the brightness via keystrokes, but the adjustment in software takes a few seconds, so it's no problem, and not really a legitimate complaint, I think. (I have a CM Masterkeys Pro mechanical keyboard, and it works the same way.)
It's obvious they are trying hard to do for " the future" but.. I've heard... " I hope that they fix that on the next version" more time on that video than on my life.... :) think that for the price it needs little adjustment
I've been searching for a chiclet style low profile mechanical for a couple of months now and so this is really an exciting step in the right direction for me. I'd love to see a wristrest and height adjustment on the full size as well as working out some of the kinks you mention in the software. As for switches i'd be interested to see a comparison on this board between the mx low profile you show and the speeds. Really hoping cooler master take some of the good advice and add everything we want to see because they could be on to something great even if just for a slightly niche'r audience
I don't mind the short travel or actuation of the keys, neither miss angled lift adjustment nor a mute button. So I guess this keyboard is great for me!
I just got this keyboard. It will take some getting used to. I've been having a lot of typos so far. Because I was used to a mechanical keyboard with higher and curved keycaps. There's also a weird feel to it, like plastic rubbing against plastic when you're pressing keys which is absent on Gateron Blue and Brown switches (Cooler Master CK550).
I hope they will release it with different color switches too, because reds arent really my favorite. It would be a dream come true if they offered greens, but those dont seem particularly popular, sadly.
They do not have a mute button in the CK550. The button layout, lighting and software tools are the same. The only difference I see is how slim it is and the fact the keys are removable.
Hello Dwayne, yea, most of our boards dont have mute button... only boards with dedicated multimedia keys have it, but we're known more for our minimalistic boards. This is honestly the first feedback we've ever received about missing a mute button in like 8 years lol
To my knowledge, the raising feet of keyboard to not hold objective ergononmic benefits, they were designed to angle the keys towards the user to make them more readable, not useable, or more comfortable - hence I wouldn't worry about the lack of the option too much, hower personal (perceived) preferences may vary. Keyboard design is cool. RGB can go. My 17 year old self would certainly consider one of those, but now I already spent to much on my mechanical keyboards for home and work.
looks really nice to me, the less gaming look the better. I don't care about macro keys but I did really enjoy the metal barrel volume adjuster. I have bluetooth on my pc. Is it resistant to liquids? I killed my corsair keyboard by spilling tea on it one too many times. Silent YAY, I hate a noisy keyboard.
Clean set up means I do not need to have a special device to control sound and audio on my machine. When I play or code, i do appreciate the special buttons on the kaybord allowing me to skip to next music track, stop, play, mute, and adjust sound. Maybe not everyone is muci junkie like me, but I will never buy a keybord without these buttons [also, I do not care if its possible to macro two buttons to get the same functions - thats not accessible enough]
Im pretty sure you can adjust how bright it is within the red blue green keys. The more you press it the more visual it gets. At least thats how it works on my masterkeys pro s. Not sure if they took that approach or not
You're definitely right! And it adds more functionality of customizing colors too. While it's not a one button solution for brightness, it's unfortunate that they overlooked this feature.
Those are keys are adjust the foreground and background lighting effects. It really is confusing. Wish I could upload a picture from their manual to show you :(
I have a Cooler Master keyboard with a similar layout (MasterKeys MK750) Every lighting effect has two layers (the effect + solid background color) To edit them, you select the one you want to edit with FN+F6-7 (the one you have selected will flash white) FN+F2-3-4 control the brightness of each color (red-green-blue) To lower the brightness you have to lower each individual color By changing the value of only 1 or 2 of them you can change the overall color of the layer
@@karimessafi7439 FN + F1 Cycles through different preset color configurations without changing the effect FN + (PRT SC, SCR LK, PAUSE) are to do with macros (single loop, infinite loop, repeat) *I have never messed with macros I don't know what those mean. That is just what it said in the manual. FN + (Left, Right) change the direction of the LED Effect i.e.: rainbow wave going left, right, up, or down
@@_q9029 Yes, that's correct. All of our keyboards have brightness implemented for each individual RGB color (FN + F2, F3 and F4). That's also how you can mix and match red, green, and blue to customize and make other colors without the need to install software.
"lack of clips :(" -> don't use those clips, they put your hands in bad positions creating health issues in the long term. Whatever the price it : you won't have those clips in any ergonomic keyboard for this reason.
I love the keys being so close together, I have yet to buy a traditional mechanical keyboard as the spacing is just too far and I completely hate it. However this I like but the two main gripes of no wrist rest and no height adjustment is going to be a deal breaker for me.
I'm interested in this purely because of how big those key switches look. I have a Corsair Strafe keyboard and I absolutely hate it. The keys are just way too small and I mistype all the time.
You might be interested to know that the new k70 LP has Square keys that are wider then the older K series keyboards. I had an older k70 MK2 rapidfire regular sized keyboard next to my new K70 LP last week and realized the keys are different sizes. In the older versions(presumably yours) the keys are more of a vertical rectangle than a true square and closer together. They are thiner keys. The new cherry LP keys are absolutely square keys and it is much less cramped for me and my big fingers. It was one of the first things I noticed when doing head to head typing. It is the "low profile" keyboard but was less cramped for me. I think they did that on purpose to address your exact problem. I am a big guy and appreciate it as it is much more accurate.
@@mrhi46483 "learning how to type properly" lmao I can type at double the speed using the $10 keyboards at my college's public library because there the caps are larger and there is more spacing. I make far less mistypes using those than my MX Blue Strafe keyboard.
I really would like to try one of these since I'm still using my old logitech 10 bucks keyboard. It's amazing how long normally users stick to their gear... I do also like your style and voice in that video! Nicely done.
Have you tried putting o-rings in them? They may reduce the sounds to membrane kb levels. This will open up office-use opportunities for the switches itself.
I'm currently keyboard shopping. I'm looking for a keyboard for my new MacBook Pro. I want: Removable chord so I can replace whatever cord it comes with with a usb-c version. I want blue or brown cherry mx keys (tactile or click). I want confirmation from the manufacture/seller that it is OS ambiguous (not that all the software will run on macOS, only that the keyboard will keyboard). I don't think that's a very long list. This is sooooo close to perfect, but no tactile or clickey key options, just linear.
I have the TKL (bought it for less than 100) and it's a joy to use everyday! Gaming and working no issue and the keycaps, the travel of the LP reds and the subtle lighting is perfect.
I love the design, the low profile looks really clean. I don't care about the lack of USB pass through and tilt, but would like to have a wrist wrest that fits the keyboard and uses the same design language.
How did you mess this one up so bad? Some of your criticism is founded but here's what you missed: - It's not a "low profile keyboard" it's a "keyboard with low profile keycaps and shorter mx reds". Newegg even says "Cooler Master SK650 Mechanical Keyboard with Cherry MX Low Profile Switches in Brushed Aluminum Design" - Actuation = resistance. Why would you want to feel resistance in a speedy switch? - Why does it need feet? You should have noted that it's a triangular shape which raises the keys up so it doesn't need feet. Feet would have made it a vertical keyboard. CM decided to take away the option of flat lying because no one types flat and feet are prone to breaking off - A detachable, braided, usb c cord isn't good enough? Really? - usb c is a Standard. CM decided not to implement a pass through because they didn't want to. - This one is only partly your fault: there is a secondary mute button but CM didn't ship a backspace key that shows it. I was able to get one from them along with a "light mute" esc key. Kudos to CM for doing this. Check with the manufacturer before declaring "such a big oversight". - A wrist rest would be nice but then it's not as portable and not everyone includes wrist rests on their higher tier keyboards (logitech, Anne pro, Das keyboard, ducky, most razers, etc)
It looks nice and it seems like a good keyboard. Three things make it a dealbreaker for me though. 1. No dedicated media keys. Call me weird, but I like mine and use them all the time, especially in games when I have music in the background. 2. No height adjustment. This one is just... what? 3. Flat keys. Once I tried concave keys, I haven't been able to use anything else.
Hello Sabro, thanks for the feedback! We didn't include feet to not only save on cost but because the angle we have it at is actually perfect for keeping your wrists straight over the board. We hoped that some basic ergonomics would be useful. As for dedicated multimedia keys, most of our boards don't have them except for MK750. We're known for minimalistic boards without any button-clutter so this is something we try to deliver for our fans. The keys actually DO have a slight concave. Honestly, takes about a week to get used to it, but once you get used to it, you dont make anymore typos - message written using SK621!
@@CoolerMasterGaming Appreciate you taking the time to answer. I do believe you in regards to the angle of the keyboard. It does have "wedge" shape to it, but like he mentions in the video, i do prefer having more of an angle when i type. Otherwise, it feels like i have to bend my hands a bit down at the wrist. I'd like to test it, but it's still quite a lot to pay to test something when you're a student. I understand about the media keys, and with a lot of other boards, the media keys aren't well integrated. I have had some keyboards in the past, however, where the media keys were shaped like regular keys, and so didn't really stand out (only on full sized keyboards though, don't know if it's even possible on a TKL board). I've tried using the same type of media keys as you have and it just doesn't feel as smooth as dedicated ones. But like you mentioned, it's a design choice. Really? On the video, especially in the intro b roll footage, it looks like they're completely flat. Again, i can see it's a design choice, but it makes it so much easier to type fast and without looking when they are concave.
Nice looking! I love the business oriented looks. But why no wrist rest? This is still quite a thick keyboard. I really hope Cherry will make Brown low profile switch. Can we please get a comparison between the SK-line up vs the Drevo Joyeuse vs Tesoro Gram XS? Which one types the best? Which one is the most low profile? Etc Please consider this, HWC!
I got this keyboard while it was on special a couple weeks ago. I find the spacing on the keyboard alright personally. I do a few misclicks here and there but I haven't written much. The spacing on the keyboard isn't much smaller than my school laptop. The only problem is that I sometimes can't tell if I pressed a key or not.
They are ideal for using it with tablets, especially tablets that you can be drawn on. Digital keyboards are just horrible to use, if you are typing an email with your tablet, and laptops don't have screens that are good enough to directly draw on professionally. Having a wireless TKL keyboard makes it easier to carry around with a tablet, and a better quality keyboard than the standard wireless cheap keyboards. A tablet able to create professional graphics work, and a quality keyboard giving a better typing experience than a laptop combination.
The low profile switches sound pretty good to me, I do like the Clicky sound of blue, but the low profile have a nice sound as well. I like the look of the keyboard too. But overall I don’t think this keyboard is anywhere near worth the price.
Hello Herro, thanks for the support! We offer a wide selection of boards with different feature sets for different users. For example, the vast majority of our boards are very minimalistic without the mute key. And we've never once received any negative feedback on the lack of that one feature! We have boards with feet and boards without because people all have different preferences :)
I don't know. The gpro has more funtions and goes for good prices now. its a hard buy tbh. That said if they make a matte black version with the ability to use a dongle for wireless it would be a bit easier pill to swallow. Bluetooth is good but not great.
I hope the 65% will have an ISO layout. If not, I will just go for the Anne Pro 2. Same wireless/Bluetooth, Type-C, RGB, Cherry MX but for like half the price which I can spend on an aluminum GH60 case and some custom keycaps and a custom cable (maybe even a bigger battery).
Would u recommend low profile when u want to go from normal keyboard to mech keyboard? Are there a lot of benefits? Like ergonomics? And do you think cherry mx would make low profile brown switches? Thanks for your time
I thought gen 3 and 3.1 USB type C had enough pass through for a USB pass through as well, or would it be too limited in function/speed or bandwidth? I mean... a keyboard doesn't use that much bandwidth really...
honest review of the sk630 keyboard, white edition cherry mx red. It is the most dry feeling I've ever felt in a keyboard. I didn't find using the keyboard satisfying at all. The closest I can describe is a chalky feeling and creeking when you press the keys. and sadly for a keyboard designed like this, typing is harder as well. I tried to get used to it but couldn't at the end. You always end up pressing other keys accidentally. Another thing that doesn't help is the stiffness of the keys . If you lubed the keys to smooth out the keystrokes, and if you had lower profile key caps (since let's be honest, this isn't a true low profile keyboard, you can basically take a normal sized keycaps and stick them on this and it would work just as well) that had more defined dent in them to hug your fingers more, this would have been a much more pleasant experience.
I think a better alternative would be the hexgears x1, which actually is low profile mechanical, has rgb, Bluetooth, plus it is the size of a tkl but also includes the number pad. It is also around the same price. I personally own one and it works well, and even has the feet that's missing on the CM keyboard.
So basically to make this thing slightly lighter, it is now less feature complete than my cheapo Ducky One, which is like the entry keyboard for the entry brand?
What do you mean with it not being a big deal that you dont have USB passthrough? USB type c (3.1) can handle a huge ammount of data. Eliminating it due to wanting to use a thinner cable is BS. You dont loose very much using a proper sized cable. I get that they didnt include it, i dont like it, but the cable being the reason i dont buy what so ever.
Hi, First of all nothing congratulations for the great reviews :) I would also like to know something. Which keyboard do you recommend for around 100 €?
Would this keyboard be worth it for half price? Because it's only $60 on Amazon. I broke my TecWare Phantom L low profile mechanical Keyboard. I had got it on sale for $35 and let me tell you. I was very impressed with it. But now it costs $50 so I was wondering if the sk630 for $60 makes more sense then the Phantom L at $50.
I'd really love to see a comparison video between this, the Hexgears X1 and the Keychron K1 - all similar concepts but implemented differently and with different switches...
The reds are linear switches, so why exactly does Eber expect to feel an actuation point?
Braided cables are bad
Why is there no actuation point or mx reds?
Who the fuck is this guy
4:41 how the heck did you turn braided cable into a negative?
the braided cable came folded, so I found it impossible to make the cable straight.
@@adamchen200 lol yeah the braided cable is really durable which is great but it sucks when it's all folded and you need it to be straight :P
Braided cables get scraped over time and collect dust, a regular plastic cable holds up better.
@@Lurreable A normal cable can curl up over time and if it does, eventually get damaged from said curling - something a braided cable prevents. A good braided cable will not get easily scraped either. The one on my G502 that I've used for almost 5 years only has a little bit of damage. Which I can barely see anyway. Lastly, your dust argument doesn't make sense as dust will collect on any type of cable, even a regular one.
"it doesn't feel like a mechanical keyboard, you can't feel the actuation point" they're red switches ya dingus
Lmao
Gonna have to challenge you on this one. They might be Cherry branded and have a nice red color, they are NOT designed to feel like standard profile Cherry Red mechanical switches. Other than the color, there's very little parallel between the Low Profile Red / Rapidfire switches and their non-LP siblings when it comes to overall feel.
@@HardwareCanucks Please respond to me :)
@@HardwareCanucks The specs in the video outlined linear travel and no audio click though
@@HardwareCanucks isn't the reason its called reds because of similarity to red
9:07 sound tests
The hero we need
I'm liking it, a bit more thocky and fuller sounding than traditional cherry mx red's
Surprisingly I liked the nice muffled sound from the SK
9:21 keyboard name please
all noisy as hell, to the trash it goes
I wish they had more keycaps for low profile keyboards like these
Are there any available for the new Cherry low profile switches yet? I've tried looking but couldn't find any.
Don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to use DSA profile caps
Look up Havit keyboards on Amazon, best low profile keyboard I've used.
it is standard (if a new one) so they should exist in the somewhat near future
Regular Cherry MX keycaps fit the _switches_ ... but not the _stabilisers_ for the wider keys. The latter are different than standard Cherry MX stabilisers.
I've waited 7 months for this keyboard since last summer. I've been extremely excited and ready to buy this thing. After watching this, I'm actually pretty hesitant. I'm so accustomed to laptop keyboards and I game often, so I feel like it'd be a good purchase, but the lack of a mute button as well as the lack of feet on the bottom of the keyboard are major drawbacks for me.
We didn't include feet to save on cost and because the angle we have it at is actually perfect for keeping your wrists straight over the board. We hoped that some basic ergonomics would be more useful. As for the mute button, we actually hadn't included that on most of our keyboards, except for the MK750 which had dedicated media keys, and we had never heard any feedback about it until this video. We're working on finding a way to add that functionality.
@@CoolerMasterGaming yo, CM Gaming, indeed, I presumed the lack if adjustable feet would be a drawback, instead the keyboard is perfect and solved the aching fingers I had from a normal size one. All I can say is that I would have accepted a higher price for a USB passthrough. Another thing for the future, maybe raise the 3 LOCK indicators a bit, the tenkey buttons are obstructing the view if you are laid back.
Man this is a sexy keyboard but those missing features really hurt in my eyes and the lack of polish. Hopefully they knock it out the park next time.
I don't use a wrist rest. I don't use the feet to make the keyboard taller or angled. The SK630 will be perfect for me.
nice, kevin
and you never turn down, no need to mute.
Keyboard incline is anti-ergonomic and has no benefits whatsoever anyway. The only reason to really incline your keyboard forward is if you have to see the legends because you can't touch type, in which case, git gud.
In fact, a negative incline in the other direction is better for ergonomics, but almost no keyboards allow that.
its still cherry switches which are horrendous
@@delphicdescant lol no
SK650 seems like a perfect keyboard for me. Full size, RGB, Low Profile with a Minimalism design. I wish other manufacturer make more of these. Simple and elegant design.
Sad they seem to have messed up a few things. I don't care about the angle adjustment but I hate that it looks like it has a fairly steep angle by default. Would be much better if it was flat and had feet to bring it up to an angle. I guess I'll wait another year for a good mechanical chiclet keyboard (been using a Deathstalker for around 6 years now)
It looks nice and sleek... but my cheaper Glorious Gaming GMMK TKL has more features and switch choices than the SK keyboard. Cooler master really dropped the ball on this; considering the design was really nice.
Same!
This is like the only keyboard in existence that has both Cherry MX low profile switches and chicklet keys. Apart from the price, this keyboard has everything I've been looking for a long time.
@@mmiikkee41 what about the Havit keyboards on Amazon, they also have low profile keycaps and kailh switches that feel smoother than most cherry switches.
@@VEN0M415 I never knew of these, Thanks!
@@mmiikkee41 no problemo
$140 price point demands independent media/volume keys as mandatory. As for the missing clips to angle the keyboard, those clips are actually bad from an ergonomic stand point. That is, angled keyboards actually place more strain on wrists and the clips are actually in place for non-touchtypers to help see the keys better. If you are a touchtyper who rarely or never looks at the keyboard it is best to lay the keyboard flat. Most people don't realize this, but quick research will show its validity.
Thanks for your feedback. That's exactly why we have the angle of the SK630 set where we do. As for the price point, your opinion is fair, though a low profile keyboard costs significantly more to produce than the same keyboard with standard switches. It would have led to extra cost that we would have had to pass on to consumers.
@HardwareCanucks
An epilepsy warning should have been in place for 6:05-6:14.
For those with photosensitive epilepsy, skip this section. Head to 6:14. The skipped section demonstrates the speed at which the RGB effects can go, which is very high. For the missed audio due to the time skip, the current sentence at 6:14 is "The media playback buttons are integrated right above the arrow keys but, oddly enough, I think Cooler Master forgot to include a mute button."
What are you talking about? The USB-C cable is very much capable to be used for a pass-through USB port. You don't need a thicker cable for that either. I have a USB 3.0 hub that has an even thinner cable and works like a charm. Even if it was USB 2.0, a pass-through port would be very much appreciated for wireless mouse dongles etc.
Why are you talking about the size? And it does have to be usb3
@@online_cat He said the cable would need to be thicker if there had to be a USB-pass-trough port. But that's not necessary. And you don't need USB 3.0 for a pass-through because even USB 1.1 supports USB-hubs.
No brightness adjustment isn't really accurate. When you adjust the color in the software, you can adjust the saturation on the horizontal axis, and the brightness on the vertical axis. You just can adjust the brightness via keystrokes, but the adjustment in software takes a few seconds, so it's no problem, and not really a legitimate complaint, I think. (I have a CM Masterkeys Pro mechanical keyboard, and it works the same way.)
It's obvious they are trying hard to do for " the future" but.. I've heard... " I hope that they fix that on the next version" more time on that video than on my life.... :) think that for the price it needs little adjustment
so..... why don't you charge ur right-clicks when playing zen?
Lmao I thought the same thing
iirc there used to be a glitch where you'd shoot orbs faster with rmb rather than lmb
I've been searching for a chiclet style low profile mechanical for a couple of months now and so this is really an exciting step in the right direction for me. I'd love to see a wristrest and height adjustment on the full size as well as working out some of the kinks you mention in the software.
As for switches i'd be interested to see a comparison on this board between the mx low profile you show and the speeds.
Really hoping cooler master take some of the good advice and add everything we want to see because they could be on to something great even if just for a slightly niche'r audience
I don't mind the short travel or actuation of the keys, neither miss angled lift adjustment nor a mute button. So I guess this keyboard is great for me!
there is a mute key its function backspace and brightness adjust is function esc
I just got this keyboard. It will take some getting used to. I've been having a lot of typos so far. Because I was used to a mechanical keyboard with higher and curved keycaps. There's also a weird feel to it, like plastic rubbing against plastic when you're pressing keys which is absent on Gateron Blue and Brown switches (Cooler Master CK550).
I hope they will release it with different color switches too, because reds arent really my favorite. It would be a dream come true if they offered greens, but those dont seem particularly popular, sadly.
I'd really like to see this compared to the Ducky One 2 TKL RGB.
Me too idk what to buy im looking at anne pro 2 and ducky one 2 and there is just to many great keyboards
@@purelove7855 Don't get the anne pro, you need those FN keys bro
@@beatsalad1 what? anne pros still have a function key layer m8
E-X-O-Y duck one just looks nicer
I wanna see more Ducky videos in general. I LOVE mine but no one covers them, such a shame.
They do not have a mute button in the CK550. The button layout, lighting and software tools are the same. The only difference I see is how slim it is and the fact the keys are removable.
Hello Dwayne, yea, most of our boards dont have mute button... only boards with dedicated multimedia keys have it, but we're known more for our minimalistic boards. This is honestly the first feedback we've ever received about missing a mute button in like 8 years lol
To my knowledge, the raising feet of keyboard to not hold objective ergononmic benefits, they were designed to angle the keys towards the user to make them more readable, not useable, or more comfortable - hence I wouldn't worry about the lack of the option too much, hower personal (perceived) preferences may vary.
Keyboard design is cool. RGB can go. My 17 year old self would certainly consider one of those, but now I already spent to much on my mechanical keyboards for home and work.
been leaning forward to look at my RGB keyboard for ages. Just realised i can see it better by using the feet :)
@@Ross6041 =D
looks really nice to me, the less gaming look the better. I don't care about macro keys but I did really enjoy the metal barrel volume adjuster. I have bluetooth on my pc. Is it resistant to liquids? I killed my corsair keyboard by spilling tea on it one too many times. Silent YAY, I hate a noisy keyboard.
Clean set up means I do not need to have a special device to control sound and audio on my machine. When I play or code, i do appreciate the special buttons on the kaybord allowing me to skip to next music track, stop, play, mute, and adjust sound. Maybe not everyone is muci junkie like me, but I will never buy a keybord without these buttons [also, I do not care if its possible to macro two buttons to get the same functions - thats not accessible enough]
Im pretty sure you can adjust how bright it is within the red blue green keys. The more you press it the more visual it gets. At least thats how it works on my masterkeys pro s. Not sure if they took that approach or not
You're definitely right! And it adds more functionality of customizing colors too. While it's not a one button solution for brightness, it's unfortunate that they overlooked this feature.
omg. You guys reviewed it as soon as I got interested in it
What kind of monster could be comfortable gaming with a flask so close the left side of the keyboard and screen.
You say you couldn't find LED brightness adjustments 6:42, but what does fn-F6 and fn-F7 do at 7:00? Those look like brightness modifiers.
Looks like those keys just turn on & off the lighting
Those are keys are adjust the foreground and background lighting effects. It really is confusing. Wish I could upload a picture from their manual to show you :(
I have a Cooler Master keyboard with a similar layout (MasterKeys MK750)
Every lighting effect has two layers (the effect + solid background color)
To edit them, you select the one you want to edit with FN+F6-7 (the one you have selected will flash white)
FN+F2-3-4 control the brightness of each color (red-green-blue)
To lower the brightness you have to lower each individual color
By changing the value of only 1 or 2 of them you can change the overall color of the layer
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FN + F1 Cycles through different preset color configurations without changing the effect
FN + (PRT SC, SCR LK, PAUSE) are to do with macros (single loop, infinite loop, repeat)
*I have never messed with macros I don't know what those mean. That is just what it said in the manual.
FN + (Left, Right) change the direction of the LED Effect
i.e.: rainbow wave going left, right, up, or down
@@_q9029 Yes, that's correct. All of our keyboards have brightness implemented for each individual RGB color (FN + F2, F3 and F4). That's also how you can mix and match red, green, and blue to customize and make other colors without the need to install software.
Felt like you really nitpicked this keyboard. A lot of the objections were very trivial.
i would love to see a slim mech keyboard comparison with the hexgears x1
The Cherry low profile switches are thicker, so are the keyboards that use them. I really like my Hexgear X-1 btw.
I agree though I feel like the X1 kinda holds its own due to the numpad inclusion on a TKL form factor. Still would be an interesting comparison.
Note the narrow recess for the USB Type C plug. That would prevent many other type C cables from fitting, except for the supplied one.
CM keyboards don't have mute buttons, most media keys don't include that. just hold volume down?
0:07 That Zenyatta right click spam lmao
"lack of clips :(" -> don't use those clips, they put your hands in bad positions creating health issues in the long term. Whatever the price it : you won't have those clips in any ergonomic keyboard for this reason.
Aesthetic wise, this the most beautiful keyboard i've seen honestly. This Cooler Master line up looks good.
Why are you doing uncharged right clicks on Zenyatta?
Yeah, that was triggering me too... :P
I just realized the usb-c port is quite recessed. So some cables won't work with it unless you drill out some of the surrounding housing ):
I love the keys being so close together, I have yet to buy a traditional mechanical keyboard as the spacing is just too far and I completely hate it. However this I like but the two main gripes of no wrist rest and no height adjustment is going to be a deal breaker for me.
No LED brightness adjustment keys? What were the small sun symbols along the function keys I saw in the video? 🤔
Screen brightness mayby, or maybe to turn led off and on
I just got this one and it SICK
I'm interested in this purely because of how big those key switches look. I have a Corsair Strafe keyboard and I absolutely hate it. The keys are just way too small and I mistype all the time.
LinusMLGTips different key caps might solve that. Although, I haven’t seen any as flat as these.
You might be interested to know that the new k70 LP has Square keys that are wider then the older K series keyboards. I had an older k70 MK2 rapidfire regular sized keyboard next to my new K70 LP last week and realized the keys are different sizes.
In the older versions(presumably yours) the keys are more of a vertical rectangle than a true square and closer together. They are thiner keys. The new cherry LP keys are absolutely square keys and it is much less cramped for me and my big fingers. It was one of the first things I noticed when doing head to head typing. It is the "low profile" keyboard but was less cramped for me. I think they did that on purpose to address your exact problem. I am a big guy and appreciate it as it is much more accurate.
You may be interested in Cherry profile caps, or learning how to type properly
@@mrhi46483 damn
@@mrhi46483 "learning how to type properly" lmao I can type at double the speed using the $10 keyboards at my college's public library because there the caps are larger and there is more spacing. I make far less mistypes using those than my MX Blue Strafe keyboard.
0:07 did he even bind primary fire?
notice he does the same thing with his hands right after
I really would like to try one of these since I'm still using my old logitech 10 bucks keyboard.
It's amazing how long normally users stick to their gear...
I do also like your style and voice in that video! Nicely done.
Have you tried putting o-rings in them? They may reduce the sounds to membrane kb levels. This will open up office-use opportunities for the switches itself.
I'm currently keyboard shopping. I'm looking for a keyboard for my new MacBook Pro. I want: Removable chord so I can replace whatever cord it comes with with a usb-c version. I want blue or brown cherry mx keys (tactile or click). I want confirmation from the manufacture/seller that it is OS ambiguous (not that all the software will run on macOS, only that the keyboard will keyboard). I don't think that's a very long list. This is sooooo close to perfect, but no tactile or clickey key options, just linear.
I have the TKL (bought it for less than 100) and it's a joy to use everyday! Gaming and working no issue and the keycaps, the travel of the LP reds and the subtle lighting is perfect.
Hey Eber, I have the Masterkeys S and it also doesn't have a mute button
Very thorough review and general product overview. Thank you so much mate, you definitely had an impact on my purchase 👍🏼
Oh man I would of liked if the keycaps had an rgb outline just like in the software. Perhaps Cooler Master would offer varying styled keysets.
Its already crammed inside, its too compact for it.
I just reread your comment , and realized you said 'keycaps had an rgb outline'? What?
definitely nailed the look and im excited for the smaller one with bluetooth for the maximum clean look
The minimalist looks is very nice, is there a white version?
I love the design, the low profile looks really clean. I don't care about the lack of USB pass through and tilt, but would like to have a wrist wrest that fits the keyboard and uses the same design language.
Very good review. You covered every single detail of the product.
Great job!
How did you mess this one up so bad? Some of your criticism is founded but here's what you missed:
- It's not a "low profile keyboard" it's a "keyboard with low profile keycaps and shorter mx reds". Newegg even says "Cooler Master SK650 Mechanical Keyboard with Cherry MX Low Profile Switches in Brushed Aluminum Design"
- Actuation = resistance. Why would you want to feel resistance in a speedy switch?
- Why does it need feet? You should have noted that it's a triangular shape which raises the keys up so it doesn't need feet. Feet would have made it a vertical keyboard. CM decided to take away the option of flat lying because no one types flat and feet are prone to breaking off
- A detachable, braided, usb c cord isn't good enough? Really?
- usb c is a Standard. CM decided not to implement a pass through because they didn't want to.
- This one is only partly your fault: there is a secondary mute button but CM didn't ship a backspace key that shows it. I was able to get one from them along with a "light mute" esc key. Kudos to CM for doing this. Check with the manufacturer before declaring "such a big oversight".
- A wrist rest would be nice but then it's not as portable and not everyone includes wrist rests on their higher tier keyboards (logitech, Anne pro, Das keyboard, ducky, most razers, etc)
What does it look like and feel when you put on a set of custom cherry keycaps?
Didn't you make a mistake? The G PRO keyboard doesn't have RomerG Linear switches. It has the standard RomerG switches that are tactile..
It looks nice and it seems like a good keyboard. Three things make it a dealbreaker for me though. 1. No dedicated media keys. Call me weird, but I like mine and use them all the time, especially in games when I have music in the background. 2. No height adjustment. This one is just... what? 3. Flat keys. Once I tried concave keys, I haven't been able to use anything else.
Hello Sabro, thanks for the feedback! We didn't include feet to not only save on cost but because the angle we have it at is actually perfect for keeping your wrists straight over the board. We hoped that some basic ergonomics would be useful. As for dedicated multimedia keys, most of our boards don't have them except for MK750. We're known for minimalistic boards without any button-clutter so this is something we try to deliver for our fans. The keys actually DO have a slight concave. Honestly, takes about a week to get used to it, but once you get used to it, you dont make anymore typos - message written using SK621!
@@CoolerMasterGaming Appreciate you taking the time to answer.
I do believe you in regards to the angle of the keyboard. It does have "wedge" shape to it, but like he mentions in the video, i do prefer having more of an angle when i type. Otherwise, it feels like i have to bend my hands a bit down at the wrist. I'd like to test it, but it's still quite a lot to pay to test something when you're a student.
I understand about the media keys, and with a lot of other boards, the media keys aren't well integrated. I have had some keyboards in the past, however, where the media keys were shaped like regular keys, and so didn't really stand out (only on full sized keyboards though, don't know if it's even possible on a TKL board). I've tried using the same type of media keys as you have and it just doesn't feel as smooth as dedicated ones. But like you mentioned, it's a design choice.
Really? On the video, especially in the intro b roll footage, it looks like they're completely flat. Again, i can see it's a design choice, but it makes it so much easier to type fast and without looking when they are concave.
Nice looking! I love the business oriented looks. But why no wrist rest? This is still quite a thick keyboard. I really hope Cherry will make Brown low profile switch.
Can we please get a comparison between the SK-line up vs the Drevo Joyeuse vs Tesoro Gram XS? Which one types the best? Which one is the most low profile? Etc
Please consider this, HWC!
Maybe try holding right click on zen to charge the volley?
I got this keyboard while it was on special a couple weeks ago. I find the spacing on the keyboard alright personally. I do a few misclicks here and there but I haven't written much. The spacing on the keyboard isn't much smaller than my school laptop. The only problem is that I sometimes can't tell if I pressed a key or not.
I have to switch between Mac and PC a lot, so I’ve been anticipating a mechanical low profile keyboard.
I'll wait for the wireless version. Just hope it has arrow keys. If it doesn't, then I'll pass.
65% usually implies arrow keys
it have arrowkeys, i already saw it
Thanks a lot, I hope this will just be the beginning, and other keyboard brands like corsair, will make wireless TKL keyboards with arrow keys.
what is the point of a wireless keyboard
They are ideal for using it with tablets, especially tablets that you can be drawn on. Digital keyboards are just horrible to use, if you are typing an email with your tablet, and laptops don't have screens that are good enough to directly draw on professionally. Having a wireless TKL keyboard makes it easier to carry around with a tablet, and a better quality keyboard than the standard wireless cheap keyboards. A tablet able to create professional graphics work, and a quality keyboard giving a better typing experience than a laptop combination.
The low profile switches sound pretty good to me, I do like the Clicky sound of blue, but the low profile have a nice sound as well. I like the look of the keyboard too. But overall I don’t think this keyboard is anywhere near worth the price.
Nice choice on the BGM! It's City Night Lights by bad snacks if anyone was wondering (the first one).
Great review! Was hoping you guys would have it up soon! Also sucks they couldn’t pull it off well. I know Cooler Master will try harder next time!
Hello Herro, thanks for the support! We offer a wide selection of boards with different feature sets for different users. For example, the vast majority of our boards are very minimalistic without the mute key. And we've never once received any negative feedback on the lack of that one feature! We have boards with feet and boards without because people all have different preferences :)
I was considering buying the SK630. I got to the point of no angle configuration... And now I need to look elsewhere.
I don't know. The gpro has more funtions and goes for good prices now. its a hard buy tbh. That said if they make a matte black version with the ability to use a dongle for wireless it would be a bit easier pill to swallow. Bluetooth is good but not great.
What’s that backpack and where can I buy it?
Company is called Peak design
@@theycallmeeyou1Its $260?!! I'll probably wait for a sale on them. Thx for the info.
you can get it for $80 now in amazon. go check out.
Nice keyboard! Love CoolerMaster Quickfire keyboards, so I don't see this doing any less!
Thanks for the love
I hope the 65% will have an ISO layout. If not, I will just go for the Anne Pro 2. Same wireless/Bluetooth, Type-C, RGB, Cherry MX but for like half the price which I can spend on an aluminum GH60 case and some custom keycaps and a custom cable (maybe even a bigger battery).
Would u recommend low profile when u want to go from normal keyboard to mech keyboard?
Are there a lot of benefits? Like ergonomics?
And do you think cherry mx would make low profile brown switches?
Thanks for your time
What case is you current computer system housed in on your table behind you?
So it’s got low profile switches and USB-C. What makes it stand out?
what would your best alternative to this be?
I thought gen 3 and 3.1 USB type C had enough pass through for a USB pass through as well, or would it be too limited in function/speed or bandwidth? I mean... a keyboard doesn't use that much bandwidth really...
What is the supposed advantage of these low-profile keyboards?
honest review of the sk630 keyboard, white edition cherry mx red. It is the most dry feeling I've ever felt in a keyboard. I didn't find using the keyboard satisfying at all. The closest I can describe is a chalky feeling and creeking when you press the keys. and sadly for a keyboard designed like this, typing is harder as well. I tried to get used to it but couldn't at the end. You always end up pressing other keys accidentally. Another thing that doesn't help is the stiffness of the keys . If you lubed the keys to smooth out the keystrokes, and if you had lower profile key caps (since let's be honest, this isn't a true low profile keyboard, you can basically take a normal sized keycaps and stick them on this and it would work just as well) that had more defined dent in them to hug your fingers more, this would have been a much more pleasant experience.
I think a better alternative would be the hexgears x1, which actually is low profile mechanical, has rgb, Bluetooth, plus it is the size of a tkl but also includes the number pad. It is also around the same price. I personally own one and it works well, and even has the feet that's missing on the CM keyboard.
I REALLY Want this board! The TKL one specifically. It's beautiful!
There’s a bundle with the TKL one, MH650 headset, and MM 711 RGB for $110, down from $285.
Ugh! Why is everyone going full red with no tactile options now?
It should be no problem to have a passthrough tho, usb c can even handle video output
It would be interesting to get you thoughts on the this keyboard and the Hexgear X-1
So basically to make this thing slightly lighter, it is now less feature complete than my cheapo Ducky One, which is like the entry keyboard for the entry brand?
Thought about switching from my K95 Platinum..... still not sure though.
I was interested in this, but that price and the lack of features has really put me off it :/
Hey Ibra, question out of topic: what kinda watch are you using? Looks cool 👍
What do you mean with it not being a big deal that you dont have USB passthrough? USB type c (3.1) can handle a huge ammount of data. Eliminating it due to wanting to use a thinner cable is BS. You dont loose very much using a proper sized cable.
I get that they didnt include it, i dont like it, but the cable being the reason i dont buy what so ever.
I hope you review the WASD V3 keyboard. Great Videos!!!
Hi,
First of all nothing congratulations for the great reviews :) I would also like to know something. Which keyboard do you recommend for around 100 €?
Great review! Lack of height adjusters on the bottom is a deal-breaker for me.
looks awesome
Awesome review my dude, picking up one of these today :D
Is there a ISO Layout version of this? Not because of bad taste, but I'm more efficient with it.
Would this keyboard be worth it for half price? Because it's only $60 on Amazon. I broke my TecWare Phantom L low profile mechanical Keyboard. I had got it on sale for $35 and let me tell you. I was very impressed with it. But now it costs $50 so I was wondering if the sk630 for $60 makes more sense then the Phantom L at $50.
I'd really love to see a comparison video between this, the Hexgears X1 and the Keychron K1 - all similar concepts but implemented differently and with different switches...
can you press multiple keys without them conflict each other? I think normal keyboards has some server limitations.