I think Mantis is still S or A tier in low-elo. In higher ranks, she requires mechanical skill to play to her max potential, but in lower ranks she still can still get value because her kit is so easy to understand and full of value. I'm not mechanically gifted with Mantis, but she has easy heals, easy damage boosts, mobility, and easy to land CC. The easy heals and damage boosts get a lot of value in low-elo from my experience when I was there. i won games sometimes by just picking Mantis and spamming damage boosts on our team of 4 dps, or by throwing heals on our 4 dps who didn't know how to play around health packs. Also, I feel like Cloak & Dagger are lowkey A or B tier even in low-rank. Yes its true that people do not stand in her ult or healing bubbles (tbf, this still happens in diamond). But low elo players struggle to deal with Cloak's damage, to the point that C&D players claim that they can solo tanks. Her homing daggers make her a more reliable healer than Luna, who has to aim. The ultimate gets more use offensively, because while allies are too silly to stand in it, enemies freak out from the pressure of the tick damage. some of them may not even even realize that its coming from C&D's ultimate. As for Jeff, easy S tier, 100% agreed.
Mantis and Luna still S tier tbh. The healing is great and their Ultis and cc are still insane for winning fights. Jeff ulti is solved at this point and most of the time he just heals and gets beat up by divers because they go unpunished more in low elo
As someone who LOVES C&D, it’s true that low elo is frustrating because you’ll be playing out of your mind then teammates will ignore your bubble or they don’t know how your ult works. The experience is very up and down whereas simpler healers at that level typically thrive when they maybe shouldn’t.
Your aim doesn't need to be that good with Hela at all. I have terrible aim and I still wreck everyone because she's just insanely overpowered. Also I think putting Rocket in S is kind of an insane take. Even at low level he's the weakest support and a lot of people in low elo I've seen don't even do damage with him. Like I'm talking they finish the game with ~500 damage or less.
The real value of rocket is the free res mid combat. I’ve seen many team fights flip in our favor cuz they kill someone that should’ve ended the fight but they come right back lol
I’m telling you that playing MK in low elo makes me believe in losers queue. I swear my teammates never even look at the ankhs but opponents always make the a priority. It’s sick
I've been playing more rocket lately, and honestly his res is pretty insane in low Elon because of how many mistakes people make. Also, the enemy will sometimes over dive for you supports and if you trade their diver and your support gets free revived then you most of the time win the fight
Luna easy S wdym? Literally the best ult in the game that you can farm in less than a minute + highest healing output ontop of insane damage. Her carry potential is off the charts if you have any gamesense. I have like a 95% win rate on her purely because of how overtuned she is atm, all you need is to save right click for flankers or to try and freeze an out of position player. Use her shift when you run out of ammo to increase uptime, the beam I believe penetrates targets and does heavy healing plus damage, it also heals you when you use it, same with right click. Her ult is brain dead easy to use, bind it to mouse wheel and switch between modes as fast as possible, it borderline makes everyone in the radius unkillable without insane burst damage, and the damage boost is strong. Use her passive skates to reach high ground or run from opponents if your have the opportunity, it’s really strong Try to stay on high ground if possible and always be positioned so you can see your team and the enemy team while having cover to hide behind if need be. Abuse her insane healing output, I find you can easily climb the Lower ranks just by keeping your tanks alive as the dps will more often than not just mindlessly shoot the tanks, and wait for your opportunity to catch an opponent out of position with your shift ability to secure a kill. If your team has a lot of sustain or isn’t taking much damage, do more damage to built your ult and pressure them, Luna snows DPS is easily comparable to some of the damage heroes
Also her E ability is always good to have on your flankers like Black panther, spider man, etc as it will heal them while you heal the rest of your team
Honestly, I would put Iron Man at A tier. I am bronze 1 and I swear people do not ever target Iron Man at all. His aim is easy since he dfoes blast dmg and since Psylocke's shotgun blast is close range, I cant do any dmg to him while he can fully dmg me with low diff aim. Also Id put cloak and dagger and scarlet witch in A because both those characters dont require you to aim which is a HUGE advantage in low ELO since players here cant aim.
Imo star lord should be A. He can just farm ultimate charge off tanks and if they know to shoot the supports and dps during ulti, they will win the game.
This is surprisingly on point coming from a player thats not low elo. Ill disagree on the Hulk though. Ive been playing him a lot (although not one tricking) and hes made the climb up to plat very smooth. Not as easy as Strange but its not like you need to be genuinely good at him to do well in gold and plat.
Biggest disagreements are Psylock is at least A tier. Her ult takes no skill and swings games, she carries alot of low Elo games. Also no way rocket is better than Luna and mantis at low rank. They have free massive team ults, anti dive tools, burst healing, and mobility.
@@NickkMarshh He's implying that people are mostly left with trash spidermen in low elo because Spiderman has a high skill ceiling, your typical casual is rarely going to reach.
I’ve been seeing more storms in Diamond and above lately and she provides a lot of value when played correctly (I’m learning how to play her correctly so I’m not there yet but she does provide a lot of value)
I’m climbing with storm, it’s been super smooth because the dmg boost makes it so when my randoms hit their shots occasionally it’s more impactful and the speed boost helps getting my team into the fight and out of bad spots but the higher I climb the more value she provides
I’m perma stuck in gold, I’d say mk is a tier and Wanda’s are solid a tier. I don’t think half of people know how she works still and let her get away with dumb stuff
I always see Wanda getting bullied tbh, and rarely does her ult do anything. Half the time my mantis, luna or peni ccs her, she dies, or everyone just hides or gets behind strange shield. The only thing going for her is she can win duels against bad aim dps players which moonknight can also do but his damage is more consistent and his ulti at least does something
Can we please stop acting like psylocke is hard? The skill she takes is not 5 star. I have played her recently a lot and she does ridiculous damage and has tools for everything. I'd say she's more mid tier in difficulty. Same with star lord.
I play magik in bronze and I'm getting like 4-5 KDA 20-30 kills a game with only a few deaths and I still can't carry the Jeff who does nothing but charges ulti...
I think you’re looking at this wrong. Anyone watching your videos at least wants to be better and they probably are better than average. I think you need to rate them on how team dependent they are. Teamwork and game sense are the main things low elo is missing that can hold back an otherwise skilled gamer. And game sense actually changes as you climb. I love watching videos of GM gamers trying to smurf low elo on a character that is team dependent. It just doesn’t work a lot of the time. And I’d wager that when it does work, the team would have won even with a potato instead of the GM.
you can just call it difficulty tierlist if thats how you are gonna rate them, do you expect people to play strange in bronze if they want to carry the game
@@HeyHiHowdy6969 You are probably lucky to get decent teammates so it's a lot easier to carry if you're that good. Yesterday i soloq 8 matches in gold and I lost 7 of them while having insane stats, getting svp every single time and trying my best, but I couldn't make up for the randoms. Today I played in a stack and climbed to plat with 100% winrate because everyone knows what they are doing, it's lightyears difference.
I think Mantis is still S or A tier in low-elo. In higher ranks, she requires mechanical skill to play to her max potential, but in lower ranks she still can still get value because her kit is so easy to understand and full of value.
I'm not mechanically gifted with Mantis, but she has easy heals, easy damage boosts, mobility, and easy to land CC. The easy heals and damage boosts get a lot of value in low-elo from my experience when I was there. i won games sometimes by just picking Mantis and spamming damage boosts on our team of 4 dps, or by throwing heals on our 4 dps who didn't know how to play around health packs.
Also, I feel like Cloak & Dagger are lowkey A or B tier even in low-rank. Yes its true that people do not stand in her ult or healing bubbles (tbf, this still happens in diamond). But low elo players struggle to deal with Cloak's damage, to the point that C&D players claim that they can solo tanks. Her homing daggers make her a more reliable healer than Luna, who has to aim. The ultimate gets more use offensively, because while allies are too silly to stand in it, enemies freak out from the pressure of the tick damage. some of them may not even even realize that its coming from C&D's ultimate.
As for Jeff, easy S tier, 100% agreed.
Mantis and Luna still S tier tbh. The healing is great and their Ultis and cc are still insane for winning fights. Jeff ulti is solved at this point and most of the time he just heals and gets beat up by divers because they go unpunished more in low elo
As someone who LOVES C&D, it’s true that low elo is frustrating because you’ll be playing out of your mind then teammates will ignore your bubble or they don’t know how your ult works. The experience is very up and down whereas simpler healers at that level typically thrive when they maybe shouldn’t.
Your aim doesn't need to be that good with Hela at all. I have terrible aim and I still wreck everyone because she's just insanely overpowered.
Also I think putting Rocket in S is kind of an insane take. Even at low level he's the weakest support and a lot of people in low elo I've seen don't even do damage with him. Like I'm talking they finish the game with ~500 damage or less.
The real value of rocket is the free res mid combat. I’ve seen many team fights flip in our favor cuz they kill someone that should’ve ended the fight but they come right back lol
Hela projectile size is insane, sometimes the shot seems to be completely off and still hits
I would love to see this. I also have terrible aim and get smoked.
I’m telling you that playing MK in low elo makes me believe in losers queue. I swear my teammates never even look at the ankhs but opponents always make the a priority. It’s sick
I've been playing more rocket lately, and honestly his res is pretty insane in low Elon because of how many mistakes people make. Also, the enemy will sometimes over dive for you supports and if you trade their diver and your support gets free revived then you most of the time win the fight
i love that you made one for low elo. please always do this
Luna easy S wdym? Literally the best ult in the game that you can farm in less than a minute + highest healing output ontop of insane damage. Her carry potential is off the charts if you have any gamesense.
I have like a 95% win rate on her purely because of how overtuned she is atm, all you need is to save right click for flankers or to try and freeze an out of position player.
Use her shift when you run out of ammo to increase uptime, the beam I believe penetrates targets and does heavy healing plus damage, it also heals you when you use it, same with right click.
Her ult is brain dead easy to use, bind it to mouse wheel and switch between modes as fast as possible, it borderline makes everyone in the radius unkillable without insane burst damage, and the damage boost is strong.
Use her passive skates to reach high ground or run from opponents if your have the opportunity, it’s really strong
Try to stay on high ground if possible and always be positioned so you can see your team and the enemy team while having cover to hide behind if need be. Abuse her insane healing output, I find you can easily climb the Lower ranks just by keeping your tanks alive as the dps will more often than not just mindlessly shoot the tanks, and wait for your opportunity to catch an opponent out of position with your shift ability to secure a kill. If your team has a lot of sustain or isn’t taking much damage, do more damage to built your ult and pressure them, Luna snows DPS is easily comparable to some of the damage heroes
Also her E ability is always good to have on your flankers like Black panther, spider man, etc as it will heal them while you heal the rest of your team
Honestly, I would put Iron Man at A tier. I am bronze 1 and I swear people do not ever target Iron Man at all. His aim is easy since he dfoes blast dmg and since Psylocke's shotgun blast is close range, I cant do any dmg to him while he can fully dmg me with low diff aim. Also Id put cloak and dagger and scarlet witch in A because both those characters dont require you to aim which is a HUGE advantage in low ELO since players here cant aim.
Imo star lord should be A. He can just farm ultimate charge off tanks and if they know to shoot the supports and dps during ulti, they will win the game.
This is surprisingly on point coming from a player thats not low elo.
Ill disagree on the Hulk though. Ive been playing him a lot (although not one tricking) and hes made the climb up to plat very smooth. Not as easy as Strange but its not like you need to be genuinely good at him to do well in gold and plat.
I played Thor a bunch in scrims so when I finally switched to rank, I literally bully lol
Ps. Big fan Mills!
Biggest disagreements are Psylock is at least A tier. Her ult takes no skill and swings games, she carries alot of low Elo games. Also no way rocket is better than Luna and mantis at low rank. They have free massive team ults, anti dive tools, burst healing, and mobility.
A spiderman player is basically an instant loss as a teamate and if we dont lose its because the other team is running a 6 dps no skill lineup
Cap. U just play with trash Spider-Men lmao
@@NickkMarshh He's implying that people are mostly left with trash spidermen in low elo because Spiderman has a high skill ceiling, your typical casual is rarely going to reach.
I’ve been seeing more storms in Diamond and above lately and she provides a lot of value when played correctly (I’m learning how to play her correctly so I’m not there yet but she does provide a lot of value)
The real S tier is just playing whoever you are good at
Low Elo Hela is OP. Expecially for the convoy. Can just sit in one spot no aim and hold shoot. Easy 2 kills from some punisher or Luna pushing to much
I’m climbing with storm, it’s been super smooth because the dmg boost makes it so when my randoms hit their shots occasionally it’s more impactful and the speed boost helps getting my team into the fight and out of bad spots but the higher I climb the more value she provides
this is giving me brain damage even knowing its a low elo one
I’m perma stuck in gold, I’d say mk is a tier and Wanda’s are solid a tier. I don’t think half of people know how she works still and let her get away with dumb stuff
I always see Wanda getting bullied tbh, and rarely does her ult do anything. Half the time my mantis, luna or peni ccs her, she dies, or everyone just hides or gets behind strange shield. The only thing going for her is she can win duels against bad aim dps players which moonknight can also do but his damage is more consistent and his ulti at least does something
sayin "perma" like da game hasn't been out for only 3 weeks
Can we please stop acting like psylocke is hard? The skill she takes is not 5 star. I have played her recently a lot and she does ridiculous damage and has tools for everything. I'd say she's more mid tier in difficulty. Same with star lord.
In low ranks, anything you practice is S tier. This list is pointless.
I play magik in bronze and I'm getting like 4-5 KDA 20-30 kills a game with only a few deaths and I still can't carry the Jeff who does nothing but charges ulti...
i think scarlet needs a rework
I think you’re looking at this wrong. Anyone watching your videos at least wants to be better and they probably are better than average. I think you need to rate them on how team dependent they are. Teamwork and game sense are the main things low elo is missing that can hold back an otherwise skilled gamer. And game sense actually changes as you climb. I love watching videos of GM gamers trying to smurf low elo on a character that is team dependent. It just doesn’t work a lot of the time. And I’d wager that when it does work, the team would have won even with a potato instead of the GM.
you can just call it difficulty tierlist if thats how you are gonna rate them, do you expect people to play strange in bronze if they want to carry the game
namor is strong in high elo aswell just depends on map/comp...
Thor S tier bruh so easy and stomps
Is this a low elo video? Couldnt remember you only said it like 100 times.
Peeps kept on joining in the stream and freaking out thinking it was a normal tier list lol
The disrespect low Elo players get lol they are that low because of their teammates cmon now
No they aren’t lol If you can’t climb to Plat solo you suck.
@ naw man they trickle in one at a time and play all dps one support it’s a nightmare
@@cody_tyraI climbed to diamond with a 75% winrate. Do you think I’m lucky or just consistently good enough to climb?
@@HeyHiHowdy6969 You are probably lucky to get decent teammates so it's a lot easier to carry if you're that good. Yesterday i soloq 8 matches in gold and I lost 7 of them while having insane stats, getting svp every single time and trying my best, but I couldn't make up for the randoms.
Today I played in a stack and climbed to plat with 100% winrate because everyone knows what they are doing, it's lightyears difference.
@ I would say you played with someone or 2 people and climbed is what I would say