psylocke ult gets countered from grouping up with your team, hilarious how every low elo lobby just completely scatters from it just from not understanding it
Darkchild is likely the single hardest ultimate to use in the game, but seeing people unironically saying it’s BAD is such a massive skill issue lmao. It’s a B/A tier ultimate which has the potential to wipe whole teams with massive mobility, pick potential, decent durability and also AOE. But yeah, if you ult in the middle of the fight with zero thought, you will die pretty fast.
@@RyanOstarineGarcia Okay first off buddy La said "DarkChild is likely the single hardest ultimate to use in the game" Where at all does that say characters? DarkChild is the name what is it doing being the hardest, the hardest what Ultimate. Did you not learn proper grammar? Now do me a favor buddy go to Marvel Rivals, then go to the character page and click on magic, then go to her abilities and what's that first abilities right there below her main attack. Here I'll save you some time it's her ultimate and oh wait what's it called DarkChild why? Bc she turns into DarkChild.. before running your mouth wouldn't it be wise to educate yourself first? I think you owe La an apology. And next time educate yourself beforehand.
@@yayz9442 is that you with the skill issue not even capable of having a proper debate with factual evidence just a guess from your low ranking gameplay? And your asking someone else about rank🤣🤣 please you ain't even gold yet buddy
I think you're sleeping on Namor ult. You don't need anyone else to set you up - it's a much bigger circle than MK ult with a stun and you only need to hit a squishy one more time to kill them. And it can easily burst through Luna Snow ult when you combo with your alt fire.
Might be a hot take but I find Peni's Ult is pretty solid for creating space, especially if it is connected to your nest. And the sheer number of mines she can deploy can score eliminations nicely too. Like if you really want to push a point or payload, Peni's ult can push the enemy away. If not get elims.
Those mines do good damage and your a lot quicker with ult form. You can definitely take out a good number of strategist and duelist. It is good for gaining space
Namor ult is at least B potentially A it catches ppl by surprise and can set up for multiple kills easily whereas moon knight is a much smaller range and still doesn’t guarantee a kill without being hit by multiple of the Kanshu claws or whatever they are
@@gregtuff4020 his ult his insane for pushes. I keep saying this but any ult can be "S Tier" if used right in the right situations. His ult is really good for stopping healers or backline DPS if you make sure to hit them once ult you can usually pick one or two but when they are on the ground it's easy headshots and fast kills. Also something iv been doing with his ult to deal with tanks but get a hit or two in push up while you use your ult and throw your octopuses in your ult then use your wrath of seven seas abilities making your octopuses hit harder. For faster kills. I've had a solo team wipe with Namor before just bc of his ult stunned tank and heals.
One time I got blinded by C&D, used my Thor dash to get out of the fight, and dashed directly into the squirrel girl’s ult.. which elimed me. Nearly uninstalled out of pure shame that day.
8:20 "She hard to kill in it." Imma need those replay files because every time I Darkchylde it's either hard cc, which is death, or hawkeye headshot, which is also death. Like I know she screams her name loud as F- but the speed at which some of the supports can whip their camera and hit a perfect tacking shot stun as I dash out from whatever weird hiding spot I transformed in is incredible.
@@LFanimes333 For sure, but I can't find anyone to learn from. Every video I watch it's like a 50-50 if the player gets value from Darkchylde. She's the same health as base but with a bigger hitbox and slower attacks, aka slower passive build. Not to mention losing the animation cancels. Even just an hour or so ago I watched a top 500 match and while his Ults were better than mine will ever be they still didn't seem that much more valuable than his base for play and he usually ended up dead for it.
@@hiurro The attack has a giant AOE and a massive hitbox, so building up the passive is pretty easy. The strategy is simple. You start the ult out of their sight and then dash and whack the squishy ones. Just never focus on tanks. This ultimate is genuinely not built for tank busting.
I main punisher so this may be a little biased. When doing his ultimate I can confirm that his defense is low and he can't get killed quickly but that's only sometimes. If you manage to get it off it's a team wipe. It's like. 75:25 ratio with the 75 being you team wiping.
She’s a squishy with an exclamation point over her head. Either shoot her or get behind cover. Her ult is only good if the opposing team is still learning the game.
@@yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
I play quick play and i would say 90% of the time she dies about 30% of the way through the charge time and i dont think her kit warrents how hard it is to get a good ult off.
@@101gaarafan yea but if she's played with magneto he can shield her and she can use her ult very aggressively without worry of dying. A lot of people don't realize how much this game encourages team ups and team plays. I do believe that's why one of the groups of achievements are mostly based around characters getting kills or assisting other characters that there are no team ups for.
9:08 - I beg to differ. Her ult, from my experience, is excellent at pushing enemies back and pushing your team forward. I tend to get at least 3 KOs per ult. Great for hunting strategists, and I always connect it to my spider nest. I see so many Peni players just busting her ult out without any strategy whatsoever, and yeah...then, it's awful.
@@yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
@@yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
As a mostly star lord main because of his ult, im having a hard time understanding how so many ults can be better. Its a team wipe almost every time. My biggest issue is running out of people to delete. By comparison, im shit scared popping Punishers ult. He dies so fast.
Cap ult being a third defense ult outside of Luna/Mantis is really bs id rank it in A for sure. I think Magneto ult is being underrated since they dont want to shoot at it and power up the ult your team can get really aggressive in the fight and not worry about getting killed usually. Id move that up to B. I'm a Magik player and darkchylde is really good the amount of cleave damage she gets to do with portal into primary is basically impossible to deal with without a defensive ult or one shotting her which is way harder since she can use portal ever 2.5 seconds. A tier ult for sure
I agree with most things, but i would probably put bucky a bit lower, it feels a lot like death blossom where you need to make sure the enemies have no CDs left or its just kinda usless (its more of a cleanup ult) I also think magnetos ult isn't that bad. You can fully counter a lot of ults like starlords and pretty consistently get 1 kill with the rock
@LFanimes333 i disagree, if your opponents know what theyre doing the only time youre gonna get multiple kills with the ult is at the end of a fight/in overtime when they are either uncoordinated and just running in on their own to recontest or have no resources left. Its not really a fight deciding ult like luna's or strange's, its more to consolidate when you're already in a good position
Peni ult is bad, but it can be so good, almost S tier if you know how to play her. With Peni ult, I always carry the win and save our team at the last moment deleting their team.
you can kill phyloc while shes ult she hits you on your back side and the person who was hit the least with the ult. just give some one that walks into on your team a back message and you kill her
I think list like this forget the fact that almost all these ults placements can be different depending on the player themselves bc in the right situations you can argue that every single ult is S teir just as well as you can argue in certain situations all these ults are D teir is just depends on the person using them the situation in which they're applied and lastly the knowledge of the ults and its pros and cons.
@yayz9442 I wouldn't say "consistently useful ults" but I would say more easily used ults. People would consider scarlet's ult a consistently useful ult that would only be bc of its simplicity and how even "bad" or "low rank" players can easily get kills with it. Lots of these S tier ults and consistent ults can be dodged by a lot of characters with certain abilities as long as you have the knowledge of that character's abilities. For example StarLord can dodge ironman, Jeff, Scarlet, magneto ect. If you watch a lot of these "tier" lists they will either represent the rank of the person making the list or they will just base it off of top players stats without knowing the top players thoughts. As I said I think it's just a situational thing. I think too many people have ow mindsets and this game is like it yes but meant to be played in a completely different way then overwatch as way as this game actually wants use of all it's characters not just a handful that are the best and are only played at those levels.( Not saying strictly that this is what ow did but stating that ow did play favorites with the characters board) This game supports anyone being as good as number 1 with any characters. This is also shown how almost everyone casual and competitive was calling hulk one of the worst tanks but then number 1 player in the game beats everyone with hulk. It just depends on the player, in what situation the characters are applied and the knowledge among it. The reason the same ults are at the top of most tier list is yes bc they are good but they are also some of the most easy to do/use ults which is why the are "consistently useful" as well as some being on just easier to play characters
@ no, scarlets ult is not consistently useful because it’s really hard to set up without getting immediately killed by good players when you pop it. Good ults are good ults because it’s easy to get value out of them and they do their job well. You’d never argue that black widows ult is as good as Luna snows ult in terms of being useful in their respective intents.
@yayz9442 It was an example and you're going to nit pick? And no it's not Scarlet's ult is very easy to get off. There's a difference between "bad" players "good" players "the best" players. If you had a decent knowledge of ult usage and character ability you'd know that 1 Scarlet is a relatively weak character compared to others but when she is used most of the time it's with a magneto ohh wait and what can he do give a shield that can't not be broken bc it's time based not DMG based. You say "Good ults are good ults because it's easy to get value out of them and they do their job well" 1. You literally reworded what I said 2. It's easy to get value bc they are easy to use ults. 3. No I wouldn't argue that black widow ult is better then Luna at their respective intents because their respective intents are vastly different. But if you want to put it that way; let's say you're in a ranked game your whole team dies it's just you now but you had just popped your ult and all the enemies are on point, Lunas ult is going to be 100% useless bc you're going to run in there and take more DMG then your ult can heal at a 1v6 but a black widow on the other hand would be able to use her ult from a safer distance stun lock all enemies on point tag from afar and the stalling makes sure your team can go back on the offensive instead of defensive bc they wouldn't be able to push up to spawn stall or get picks off spawn. As I said all ults can be considered S and D tier and in this scenario Lunas ult would also be D where black widow would always be S when on average or in most scenarios it would be the opposite.
Magik ult (DarkChylde) is so bad. U pop it, double your hitbox, get no extra hp, dive in, get CC'd, die. You can definitely get value out of it if all cc is on cooldown (unlikely with how prevalent mantis, and luna snow are) but the second u get hit with it, youre cooked. If it like halved her cooldowns or gave her some additional health it would be fine, but as is, its too difficult to get value from considering that ults r like a press to win button for most other heroes. All darkchylde does is make you sweat harder. Its amazing when it works but too many obstacles in its way.
Magik is NOT b tier. Her ult gives her ZERO extra survivability and infact makes her hitbox bigger which makes her easier to kill. She also can’t use any abilities going in or out of the ult which means she has no option to dodge attacks. She also shouts super fucking loud which gives everyone on the enemy team warning to focus you when you appear. Her ult literally makes her weaker Edit: oh and to anyone who wants to say “skill issue” just because you can do well with the ult when you’re super good DOES NOT make the ult good. Let’s put it this way. There are two jobs one job pays $100k a year and you just have to press a button every day. The other job can also pay $100k a year but only if you crawl through 10km of sewage every day. Which job is better? Just because both pay $100k does not mean they are equivalent and same with magic. If you need to put in 10x the effort for the same result as someone who just needs to press a single button ITS NOT A GOOD ULT
@Yayz9442 you wanna call me bad then say wow i got higher rank on console im even worsen i should try pc lobbies but bruh i play crossplay I do as good as i do on console on controller vs pc and mnk and you calling we trash for that? You can back anything you say and you refuse to play in a pc grandmaster lobbie with 4 pc grandmasters plus me and you. Just bc i havent grinded to max rank yet or domt play on pc doesnt mean im not good or a good player.
@Yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
I dont get how you shit on peni so much. This is like the third video ive seen where you shit on her. Her ult isnt the best by any means but i dont even know what black widows is from how bad she is. Even when i see a widow i guess she just doesnt use her ult or it has no impact.
The Magneto disrespect is crazy. The ult is very hard to use, but it can be absolutely fight winning.
psylocke ult gets countered from grouping up with your team, hilarious how every low elo lobby just completely scatters from it just from not understanding it
Darkchild is likely the single hardest ultimate to use in the game, but seeing people unironically saying it’s BAD is such a massive skill issue lmao.
It’s a B/A tier ultimate which has the potential to wipe whole teams with massive mobility, pick potential, decent durability and also AOE.
But yeah, if you ult in the middle of the fight with zero thought, you will die pretty fast.
bruh wtf u making up nicknames for characters. theres no one in the game named dark child
@@LFanimes333 what rank are you?
@@RyanOstarineGarcia Okay first off buddy La said "DarkChild is likely the single hardest ultimate to use in the game" Where at all does that say characters? DarkChild is the name what is it doing being the hardest, the hardest what Ultimate. Did you not learn proper grammar? Now do me a favor buddy go to Marvel Rivals, then go to the character page and click on magic, then go to her abilities and what's that first abilities right there below her main attack. Here I'll save you some time it's her ultimate and oh wait what's it called DarkChild why? Bc she turns into DarkChild.. before running your mouth wouldn't it be wise to educate yourself first? I think you owe La an apology. And next time educate yourself beforehand.
@@yayz9442 is that you with the skill issue not even capable of having a proper debate with factual evidence just a guess from your low ranking gameplay? And your asking someone else about rank🤣🤣 please you ain't even gold yet buddy
@@GolemOfMagic Do they spell it Darkchild in game? Im pretty sure its DarkChylde in the comics
I think you're sleeping on Namor ult. You don't need anyone else to set you up - it's a much bigger circle than MK ult with a stun and you only need to hit a squishy one more time to kill them. And it can easily burst through Luna Snow ult when you combo with your alt fire.
Combo with alt fire? What do you mean?
nobody can sleep on a bronze char pal, get gud
@@preferableyoutuber5481 namor is literally one of the best dps if u didn’t know now u do.
@@lcnewalker you're literally ranked in NEGATIVE mmr, if *you* didn't know that b4 now you do mr squid.
@@preferableyoutuber5481 u just said bronze char, also im platinum in ranked rn 💀
Might be a hot take but I find Peni's Ult is pretty solid for creating space, especially if it is connected to your nest. And the sheer number of mines she can deploy can score eliminations nicely too. Like if you really want to push a point or payload, Peni's ult can push the enemy away. If not get elims.
Those mines do good damage and your a lot quicker with ult form. You can definitely take out a good number of strategist and duelist. It is good for gaining space
Peni's ult is glorious for removing people from a zone
Namor ult is at least B potentially A it catches ppl by surprise and can set up for multiple kills easily whereas moon knight is a much smaller range and still doesn’t guarantee a kill without being hit by multiple of the Kanshu claws or whatever they are
no its f.
I actually get my best DPS games as him. His ult kinda sucks though.
@@gregtuff4020 his ult his insane for pushes. I keep saying this but any ult can be "S Tier" if used right in the right situations. His ult is really good for stopping healers or backline DPS if you make sure to hit them once ult you can usually pick one or two but when they are on the ground it's easy headshots and fast kills. Also something iv been doing with his ult to deal with tanks but get a hit or two in push up while you use your ult and throw your octopuses in your ult then use your wrath of seven seas abilities making your octopuses hit harder. For faster kills. I've had a solo team wipe with Namor before just bc of his ult stunned tank and heals.
One time I got blinded by C&D, used my Thor dash to get out of the fight, and dashed directly into the squirrel girl’s ult.. which elimed me. Nearly uninstalled out of pure shame that day.
8:20 "She hard to kill in it."
Imma need those replay files because every time I Darkchylde it's either hard cc, which is death, or hawkeye headshot, which is also death. Like I know she screams her name loud as F- but the speed at which some of the supports can whip their camera and hit a perfect tacking shot stun as I dash out from whatever weird hiding spot I transformed in is incredible.
Sorry to say, but that’s likely skill issue on your part lmao
@@LFanimes333 For sure, but I can't find anyone to learn from. Every video I watch it's like a 50-50 if the player gets value from Darkchylde. She's the same health as base but with a bigger hitbox and slower attacks, aka slower passive build. Not to mention losing the animation cancels. Even just an hour or so ago I watched a top 500 match and while his Ults were better than mine will ever be they still didn't seem that much more valuable than his base for play and he usually ended up dead for it.
@@hiurro
The attack has a giant AOE and a massive hitbox, so building up the passive is pretty easy.
The strategy is simple. You start the ult out of their sight and then dash and whack the squishy ones.
Just never focus on tanks. This ultimate is genuinely not built for tank busting.
Great format m8, really entertaining video
I main punisher so this may be a little biased. When doing his ultimate I can confirm that his defense is low and he can't get killed quickly but that's only sometimes. If you manage to get it off it's a team wipe. It's like. 75:25 ratio with the 75 being you team wiping.
i iron man ul1 his punishr ul, w2 bo1h di9d
@Cruelty1633 bro spelling is not that hard
1:06 benefit of having best animation 🥵
Scarlet Witch's Ultimate wreaks havoc on casual games. Even if you avoid it half the time it takes out 2-3 teammates.
casual? no, bad players
She’s a squishy with an exclamation point over her head. Either shoot her or get behind cover. Her ult is only good if the opposing team is still learning the game.
@@yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
I play quick play and i would say 90% of the time she dies about 30% of the way through the charge time and i dont think her kit warrents how hard it is to get a good ult off.
@@101gaarafan yea but if she's played with magneto he can shield her and she can use her ult very aggressively without worry of dying. A lot of people don't realize how much this game encourages team ups and team plays. I do believe that's why one of the groups of achievements are mostly based around characters getting kills or assisting other characters that there are no team ups for.
9:08 - I beg to differ. Her ult, from my experience, is excellent at pushing enemies back and pushing your team forward. I tend to get at least 3 KOs per ult. Great for hunting strategists, and I always connect it to my spider nest. I see so many Peni players just busting her ult out without any strategy whatsoever, and yeah...then, it's awful.
What rank are you?
@@yayz9442 ranked qp 😂
@@preferableyoutuber5481 lmao dude is playing bots
@@yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
@@yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
As a mostly star lord main because of his ult, im having a hard time understanding how so many ults can be better. Its a team wipe almost every time. My biggest issue is running out of people to delete. By comparison, im shit scared popping Punishers ult. He dies so fast.
Cap ult being a third defense ult outside of Luna/Mantis is really bs id rank it in A for sure.
I think Magneto ult is being underrated since they dont want to shoot at it and power up the ult your team can get really aggressive in the fight and not worry about getting killed usually. Id move that up to B.
I'm a Magik player and darkchylde is really good the amount of cleave damage she gets to do with portal into primary is basically impossible to deal with without a defensive ult or one shotting her which is way harder since she can use portal ever 2.5 seconds. A tier ult for sure
but with ranged DPS having tons of damage she can get deleted if enemy doesn't panic. Or just get 1shot by Hawkeye with that 400 HP headshot
Ived knocked Cap off the stage with a Thor dash during his ult lol
I agree with most things, but i would probably put bucky a bit lower, it feels a lot like death blossom where you need to make sure the enemies have no CDs left or its just kinda usless (its more of a cleanup ult) I also think magnetos ult isn't that bad. You can fully counter a lot of ults like starlords and pretty consistently get 1 kill with the rock
Again
Nah, “Again” is 100% amongst the 5 best ultimates and that’s not even a question.
@LFanimes333 i disagree, if your opponents know what theyre doing the only time youre gonna get multiple kills with the ult is at the end of a fight/in overtime when they are either uncoordinated and just running in on their own to recontest or have no resources left. Its not really a fight deciding ult like luna's or strange's, its more to consolidate when you're already in a good position
Peni ult is bad, but it can be so good, almost S tier if you know how to play her. With Peni ult, I always carry the win and save our team at the last moment deleting their team.
Ive aced so many times flanking with her ult
Cap's ult is God tier. Ive never seen a Cap die while ulting. Ever.
you can kill phyloc while shes ult she hits you on your back side and the person who was hit the least with the ult. just give some one that walks into on your team a back message and you kill her
I think list like this forget the fact that almost all these ults placements can be different depending on the player themselves bc in the right situations you can argue that every single ult is S teir just as well as you can argue in certain situations all these ults are D teir is just depends on the person using them the situation in which they're applied and lastly the knowledge of the ults and its pros and cons.
@@GolemOfMagic yeah and the most consistently useful ults get ranked highest, pretty simple concept
@yayz9442 I wouldn't say "consistently useful ults" but I would say more easily used ults. People would consider scarlet's ult a consistently useful ult that would only be bc of its simplicity and how even "bad" or "low rank" players can easily get kills with it. Lots of these S tier ults and consistent ults can be dodged by a lot of characters with certain abilities as long as you have the knowledge of that character's abilities. For example StarLord can dodge ironman, Jeff, Scarlet, magneto ect. If you watch a lot of these "tier" lists they will either represent the rank of the person making the list or they will just base it off of top players stats without knowing the top players thoughts. As I said I think it's just a situational thing. I think too many people have ow mindsets and this game is like it yes but meant to be played in a completely different way then overwatch as way as this game actually wants use of all it's characters not just a handful that are the best and are only played at those levels.( Not saying strictly that this is what ow did but stating that ow did play favorites with the characters board) This game supports anyone being as good as number 1 with any characters. This is also shown how almost everyone casual and competitive was calling hulk one of the worst tanks but then number 1 player in the game beats everyone with hulk. It just depends on the player, in what situation the characters are applied and the knowledge among it. The reason the same ults are at the top of most tier list is yes bc they are good but they are also some of the most easy to do/use ults which is why the are "consistently useful" as well as some being on just easier to play characters
@ no, scarlets ult is not consistently useful because it’s really hard to set up without getting immediately killed by good players when you pop it. Good ults are good ults because it’s easy to get value out of them and they do their job well. You’d never argue that black widows ult is as good as Luna snows ult in terms of being useful in their respective intents.
@yayz9442 It was an example and you're going to nit pick? And no it's not Scarlet's ult is very easy to get off. There's a difference between "bad" players "good" players "the best" players. If you had a decent knowledge of ult usage and character ability you'd know that 1 Scarlet is a relatively weak character compared to others but when she is used most of the time it's with a magneto ohh wait and what can he do give a shield that can't not be broken bc it's time based not DMG based. You say "Good ults are good ults because it's easy to get value out of them and they do their job well" 1. You literally reworded what I said 2. It's easy to get value bc they are easy to use ults. 3. No I wouldn't argue that black widow ult is better then Luna at their respective intents because their respective intents are vastly different. But if you want to put it that way; let's say you're in a ranked game your whole team dies it's just you now but you had just popped your ult and all the enemies are on point, Lunas ult is going to be 100% useless bc you're going to run in there and take more DMG then your ult can heal at a 1v6 but a black widow on the other hand would be able to use her ult from a safer distance stun lock all enemies on point tag from afar and the stalling makes sure your team can go back on the offensive instead of defensive bc they wouldn't be able to push up to spawn stall or get picks off spawn. As I said all ults can be considered S and D tier and in this scenario Lunas ult would also be D where black widow would always be S when on average or in most scenarios it would be the opposite.
@ dude, not all ults are created equal. And that’s okay. Some are better than others lol you have got to be bronze or something, this is insane
Loving the Melee theme
Magik ult (DarkChylde) is so bad. U pop it, double your hitbox, get no extra hp, dive in, get CC'd, die. You can definitely get value out of it if all cc is on cooldown (unlikely with how prevalent mantis, and luna snow are) but the second u get hit with it, youre cooked.
If it like halved her cooldowns or gave her some additional health it would be fine, but as is, its too difficult to get value from considering that ults r like a press to win button for most other heroes. All darkchylde does is make you sweat harder.
Its amazing when it works but too many obstacles in its way.
Magik is NOT b tier. Her ult gives her ZERO extra survivability and infact makes her hitbox bigger which makes her easier to kill. She also can’t use any abilities going in or out of the ult which means she has no option to dodge attacks. She also shouts super fucking loud which gives everyone on the enemy team warning to focus you when you appear. Her ult literally makes her weaker
Edit: oh and to anyone who wants to say “skill issue” just because you can do well with the ult when you’re super good DOES NOT make the ult good. Let’s put it this way. There are two jobs one job pays $100k a year and you just have to press a button every day. The other job can also pay $100k a year but only if you crawl through 10km of sewage every day. Which job is better? Just because both pay $100k does not mean they are equivalent and same with magic. If you need to put in 10x the effort for the same result as someone who just needs to press a single button ITS NOT A GOOD ULT
Ults my opponents use: S tier
Ults my team use: F tier
Disagree on Peni ult. Its a zoning ult. If connected with mines you cant just walk through it as a squishy. She can also get it pretty quick.
Me wiping the entire enemy team as storm ult isnt worth much a see
why is jeff so high
why is SCARLET so high even considering what you said
magneto can completely negate your A tier Iron Man ULT btw idk if you knew that...
Penni ult in C is diabolical.
Loki. All i need to say (might be biased)
winter soldier is S tier just because of AGAIN!!!!!
Cloak and dagger in b is crazy???
You’re so right, Thor ult is trash af
Tripping. Hawkeye ult is fuqn broken wtf
@Yayz9442 you wanna call me bad then say wow i got higher rank on console im even worsen i should try pc lobbies but bruh i play crossplay I do as good as i do on console on controller vs pc and mnk and you calling we trash for that? You can back anything you say and you refuse to play in a pc grandmaster lobbie with 4 pc grandmasters plus me and you. Just bc i havent grinded to max rank yet or domt play on pc doesnt mean im not good or a good player.
@Yayz9442 sure thing what you gotta say to make yourself feel better I mean you all talk but when it comes to actual proving it it's every reason and why you can't. I won't be hosting the ranked game it will be in cross play lobbies with 4 PC grandmaster and one of them will host the server will be in whatever your main server is I can play in them all and you can get character pick and role lead you'll get to call all the shots. All you have to do is join and play. If you do actively better than me and the 4 grandmasters as well as the enemy team says you're the better player I openly admit to it I'll apologize on every comment and reply and make a video admitting you are much better than me. But if I win then you'll have to admit how much better and smarter and just more superior I am compared to you in a way of my choosing.
Wolverines ultimate is so bad. It makes me angry. He's already difficult to use. I somehow got his trophy and peed my pants
I dont get how you shit on peni so much. This is like the third video ive seen where you shit on her. Her ult isnt the best by any means but i dont even know what black widows is from how bad she is. Even when i see a widow i guess she just doesnt use her ult or it has no impact.
Nah soldier bottom of S. Easy team wipes
I get what you mean about the floor of value where you miss tho, that’s a good point