GM Gen 5 LT vs Ford Coyote. Which one is better and why.

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  • @AutoGuild
    @AutoGuild  3 місяці тому +1

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  • @chrisdaigle5410
    @chrisdaigle5410 3 роки тому +526

    Before (big block) gasoline engines go away, I wish Ford would make a 7 liter version of the Coyote engine. Use the same bore and stroke as the 427 FE. Yes, it would be bigger and longer than the current engine, but at roughly 780hp and still driveable, it would be the meanest naturally aspirated crate engine ever.

    • @Honda1k
      @Honda1k 3 роки тому +128

      Gas motors aren't going anywhere

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 3 роки тому +35

      The 6.2 can be taken to 7.0. and while still sohc, it has massive semi-hemi valve angles, and dual spark plugs allowing for a shit load of fuel and air to be burned..

    • @lobehold2263
      @lobehold2263 3 роки тому +70

      Or buy the 7.3L godzilla engine they have now. Not a oversized coyote but they share ford's modular whatever thingy.

    • @169abr
      @169abr 3 роки тому +23

      One last Hoo-Rah, the return of “The Cammer”

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 3 роки тому +50

      Ford did make the 427 SOHC Cammer V8 and let me tell you its the most baddest engine on the planet.

  • @bryanrussell6679
    @bryanrussell6679 3 роки тому +546

    Both are great engines. They just use different philosophies. I love the "do more with less cubes" from the ford. I also love how responsive the LS & LT engines are from very few mods. Whichever side your heart aligns with, you should be thankful for the competition always upping the ante. Because we ultimately benefit from that with a big grin every time you mash that go pedal.

    • @MrRangersfan123
      @MrRangersfan123 2 роки тому +30

      Wish more people had this mindset. I own a mustang but love the LS/LT platform and one of my dream projects is an LS Swapped 77/78 trans am and my dream car is a C7 Z06 Corvette.

    • @travelinman482
      @travelinman482 2 роки тому +5

      @@MrRangersfan123
      It’s sacrilegious to put a Chevy engine into a Pontiac. Why not a Pontiac 455 big block?

    • @rexmilanista
      @rexmilanista 2 роки тому +27

      @@travelinman482 because a modern LS/LT is smaller then a big block chev/Pontiac, more efficient, can make more power and has far greater transmission options to boot. You get the best of both worlds when doing a swap like that in a hot rod.
      This all coming from a die hard Ford Guy. I'm toying with the idea of actually doing a 7.3 swap in my Fairlane as the aftermarket grows for that engine.

    • @travelinman482
      @travelinman482 2 роки тому +6

      @@rexmilanista
      Liked your comments. Now, are you talking about more [stock] transmission options? Cause there’s several companies that make aftermarket transmissions for engine swaps, etc. Also, you can make any BB engine build some serious horsepower and most importantly, torque. Dr. Olds used to build some bad ass 455ci engines in his heyday! There’s already a 7.3L Godzilla engine on UA-cam that’s pushing over 1,000 hp.

    • @travelinman482
      @travelinman482 2 роки тому

      @J Jones
      Blue 400…? Ford powertrain?

  • @tristanoliva
    @tristanoliva Рік тому +56

    I’m not a Ford guy by any stretch however it’s impossible to ignore how good the coyotes are! Those 10r80’s are nuts too

    • @xxtriss-lt6
      @xxtriss-lt6 7 місяців тому +4

      u can thank GM for the 10spd transmission but stock still 12.6s -13.6s not so impressive and that engine comes with 4 cams so is way more expensive to mod than the LT or LS

    • @jimmillet1442
      @jimmillet1442 7 місяців тому +16

      ​@@xxtriss-lt6Thank GM for what? The 10 speed is all Fords design.Its the 9 speed that came from that joint venture that was used in GM vehicles.

    • @xxtriss-lt6
      @xxtriss-lt6 7 місяців тому

      @@jimmillet1442 k

    • @eliteghost0001
      @eliteghost0001 5 місяців тому +5

      @@xxtriss-lt6 the mustang is by far the most cheap vehicle to mod. what are you even saying. It has by far the most aftermarket support too. Hate if you want but dont lie man.

    • @xxtriss-lt6
      @xxtriss-lt6 5 місяців тому

      @@eliteghost0001 tell me u don’t know shit about cars without telling me

  • @Yaboidavey
    @Yaboidavey Рік тому +53

    I've driven both.
    The 6.2 pushrod v8 Chevy makes is great for low rpm grunt work, endless torque on demand to where you'll find yourself doing hillclimbs without dropping a gear.
    The Ford 5.0L is great to play with at mid to high rpms and never feels short of breath.
    Both have positives and negatives. But at the end of the day, you won't be disappointed to own either of them

    • @d.e.b.b5788
      @d.e.b.b5788 Рік тому +3

      It's the joy of getting to drive all maker's designs that makes it so much fun to switch manufacturers every few years when a new version comes out. Getting old ain't bad, since I can now afford a new car every few years. That house I bought in 1977 for $40K and sold for $625K turned out to be a good investment, when I moved to a retirement home that only cost us $50K.

    • @Yaboidavey
      @Yaboidavey Рік тому +3

      @D.E.B. B must've been nice buying houses in that kind of market. I bought my first place at $325k in 2017, bought a second in 2019 for $488k, and a third last year for $460k.
      If I were building my investment in your market, I would probably be over a dozen houses in the same length of time.
      But that was a different time, back before our government destroyed our way of life.

    • @calebniederhofer6529
      @calebniederhofer6529 Рік тому

      It really does not though. In fact, It does not reach peak torque till about 5krpm. It is the opposite actually. It will still tow, and make a lot of power, but it can’t compare in power to the 3.5 EB, or a diesel in low end torque.

    • @d.e.b.b5788
      @d.e.b.b5788 Рік тому

      @@calebniederhofer6529 It's not the size of the block which determines when the torque comes on the cam.

  • @michaelakers8698
    @michaelakers8698 2 роки тому +47

    This is the most genuine unbiased comparison of the two motors I think I've ever heard both have their advantages and disadvantages but in stock form they do the job they were designed for good job I learned a lot thanks

  • @cynic777
    @cynic777 3 роки тому +189

    Good video with good details. The real answer is “it depends”.

  • @aubreysmccollams1079
    @aubreysmccollams1079 Рік тому +17

    The gen 3 coyote is an absolute masterpiece.

    • @petrospago3515
      @petrospago3515 3 місяці тому

      there is a combo of parts between all 3 gens called the 3 2 1 combo and it makes a beast engine

  • @vxer1000
    @vxer1000 2 роки тому +43

    The Voodoo engine is probably the greatest engine made to date by an American manufacturer. Powerful, high revving and an intoxicating exhaust note. It left it's mark on every auto manufacturer, both domestic and import. The GT350R is one of the quickest naturally aspirated cars on the Nurburgring ever.

    • @jamesbottger5894
      @jamesbottger5894 2 роки тому +9

      Nah, the LS and LT engines are better...

    • @cvzanikos1
      @cvzanikos1 2 роки тому

      Yup

    • @smokepeddler
      @smokepeddler 2 роки тому +9

      When I see a voodoo or coyote with 300k miles and still runs strong we'll talk.
      Until then I'll go with an LS.

    • @banette36
      @banette36 2 роки тому +3

      @@smokepeddler I have both Ford and Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 , Ford F-150 FX4 5.4 . every time I have to work on that Ford . absolutely kick myself in the ass .. everytime I get to work on my Silverado ! I'm like hell yes more power what can I do today ! the only thing I will do to that F-150 is a tune .
      my 97 Z28 LT1 was actually easier to work on then this ford... I'm with you , but even if my Chevy doesn't make 300,000 miles I can still rebuild it easier !
      And have fun doing it..

    • @smokepeddler
      @smokepeddler 2 роки тому +2

      @@banette36 Agreed. my 99 1500 Silverado is so Easy to work on. Everything is accessible and easy to reach. I had a 97 f150 and you had to remove 10 things to replace anything. Both good trucks though.

  • @stephenhodge6441
    @stephenhodge6441 3 роки тому +239

    Really great video. I own all three engines LS, LT, and coyote. All 3 are great but I just love the simplicity of the LS. Glad to see you are an engine guy with an open mind and not just a fan boy. That is hard to find these days.

    • @derqatarzan4207
      @derqatarzan4207 3 роки тому +6

      100% was the best comparison I've seen yet! They all make great motors these days that's for sure.

    • @andresmarquez5241
      @andresmarquez5241 3 роки тому +4

      Since u own all three i wanted ro ask, how much diffrent feeling is the low end torque in the coyote compared to ls?

    • @MegaMma4life
      @MegaMma4life 2 роки тому +4

      Coyote is a better motor

    • @stephenhodge6441
      @stephenhodge6441 2 роки тому +4

      @@MegaMma4life would you like to enlighten the rest of us with facts?

    • @MegaMma4life
      @MegaMma4life 2 роки тому +4

      @@stephenhodge6441 its a smaller displacements motor that pushes more hp per cubic inch. It revs higher and has a broader power ban. While both motors perform well the coyote is a better motor. Doesn't need 6 liters to produce 1xxx hp. I also personally think the ls motors are superior to the lt tech. I know some of the ls heads flow way better. Now each motor has its short comings but I would chose the coyote everyday over a lt and a ls. The modular motor lineup of Ford even there 5.4 dohc 5.2 dohc 5.8 dohc motors you can push 800 plus wheel with a pd blower and have power from idle to redlibe. Yes you can fo the dame with a lt. Comes down to power per cub fords motors are superior

  • @honda116969
    @honda116969 3 роки тому +193

    Damn dude you have a complete understanding of these motors & you're good at explaining it 💯%👍👍

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 3 роки тому

      Niether one, what is there dfi 2 stroke v8 option for 2022?

    • @tnaccountability7455
      @tnaccountability7455 2 роки тому +1

      Lol. This is like elementary 😆 WOW you are easily amused. This is common knowledge bro

    • @tnaccountability7455
      @tnaccountability7455 2 роки тому

      @Brian Stafford cause the 2 piece plugs. Im a Ford guy and the 5.4 of that yr is junk

    • @tnaccountability7455
      @tnaccountability7455 2 роки тому

      @Brian Stafford the 5.4 isnt half the engine a mod 302 for that matter.

    • @tnaccountability7455
      @tnaccountability7455 2 роки тому

      😆 this comment wreaks of clueless

  • @Marco-fi6gv
    @Marco-fi6gv 2 роки тому +5

    I'm definitely a V8 fan, without a doubt. Had a fastback Torino Gt with a 390 4spd sold it when I bought first house. Got rid of my '89 Gt 5.0 fox body a couple years later when we had kids and needed a family car. Been regretting this ever since, but I do still have a V8 truck 🤷🏻‍♂️. We also had a 5.3 LS in our 2002 Tahoe, but my son wrecked it🙄😡. I am old school, but I do love these new engines too. I've been wanting a new mustang for a while and if I had my choice it would be the GT 350 with the voodoo, even though the gt500 has the most horses. My neighbor just picked up one of the new Camaros and it's sweet too. You can't go wrong with either. I'm just glad we still have all these options. Hopefully we will have them for years to come, as long as the government doesn't ruin things 🙄. Thanks for the awesome video!!!

  • @Airman..
    @Airman.. 3 роки тому +202

    Gotta appreciate the engineering went into making the Voodoo engine.. LS guy

    • @Black_Star_Racer
      @Black_Star_Racer 3 роки тому +50

      Gotta appreciate the how GM got the pushrod down to a science.......... Coyote guy

    • @ctcdarkness
      @ctcdarkness 3 роки тому +21

      Can’t forget the forced induced version of the voodoo, the predator. Pretty damn amazing for the size of it…. LS guy as well.

    • @koncha0422
      @koncha0422 2 роки тому +20

      This comment section makes me happy.

    • @rickgehring7507
      @rickgehring7507 2 роки тому +15

      with out a doubt it's one of the best thought out engine platforms ever to be produced .........Hemi Guy

    • @tnaccountability7455
      @tnaccountability7455 2 роки тому +5

      People cant grasp that GM has copied ford for a while now. They are doing so to try to catch up to the fords hp per ci since ford has always our powered GM engines per ci

  • @powderriver2424
    @powderriver2424 3 роки тому +58

    It’s funny the Coyote is a good engine for a half ton truck and does have decent torque for “reasonable” towing, however guys buy it and expect it to pull over its capacity and say the engine is no good it doesn’t make any torque.
    I wish people, even mechanically educated people, would use common sense.

    • @karlschauff7989
      @karlschauff7989 3 роки тому +14

      The guys that most often say that are the guys that swear by the Ecoboost engines.

    • @powderriver2424
      @powderriver2424 3 роки тому +5

      @@karlschauff7989 Could be I suppose, the eco really cranks out the power, but the only thing it can’t pass is a gas station…Lol

    • @fordmud
      @fordmud 3 роки тому +3

      @@powderriver2424 I love towing with my 5.0l, now that being said I wouldn't say it's a good engine for towing. It's doesn't make alot of bottom end grunt especially on regular fuel.
      The coyote loves premium, empty most won't notice a difference in power except I get a 1.3mpg average better fuel mileage. Now towing, especially on a hot day, premium really helps the mid range power. But unlike the Chevy v8s the coyote pulls strong all the way till the transmissions shifts, making the gears have a longer usable power band. A stock Chevy V8 truck engine seems to run strong up to 3800 rpm and then kinda falls flat, its still pulling strong, it just doesn't gain much after that.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 3 роки тому

      Mostly are EcoBoost owners that bashes on the Coyote V8 and calls it 5.Slow Slowoyote.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 3 роки тому +10

      I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 140,000 miles and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust. For me I prefer the Coyote V8 over the EcoBoost V6 anyday of the week because I don't deal with turbos breaking because its NA and it sounds wayyyyyyy better as well.

  • @fobbitoperator3620
    @fobbitoperator3620 2 роки тому +11

    You have truly mastered the art of making high quality YT videos my friend. Never been much for spec talk, but you made this LT versus Coyote/Voodoo topic quite interesting!

  • @Wooley689
    @Wooley689 2 роки тому +2

    This was a spectacular video. Trying to learn all I can about my 2011 Coyote and soaking this stuff up like a sponge. Many thanks.

  • @heavenhelpus479
    @heavenhelpus479 3 роки тому +48

    I've had the pleasure of owning cars with both the LS and LT, as well as the latest gen Coyote and the Voodoo 5.2L in my GT350R. I must say this is the best explanation of these motors that the common enthusiast can understand without being an mech. engineer. Well done. New sub.

    • @Hey_Blinkin
      @Hey_Blinkin 3 роки тому +5

      @rross27 we all know the answer... LS

    • @ssj2camaro21
      @ssj2camaro21 3 роки тому +1

      All he did was take all the stats, that you, honestly could have read yourself and made a video.

    • @Hey_Blinkin
      @Hey_Blinkin 3 роки тому +3

      @rross27 those are all some really cool builds you have had. Personally, I've had both the new LT1 in a 17 Camaro SS. And currently have a 19 Z06 with the LT4. Love both in their own way. The LT1 was a manual with 455/455 in it and she would rip and loved to be "beat" on. LT4 is the same, but you have to be careful as the car is super expensive and the engine is ridiculously more powerful than anything I have ever had. Probably going to get another ZL1 or Z28 in 26 for the last year of the gen 6, Vette will be paid for by then and more of a "show" car. Keeping her stock. Hope you can get your hands on either one in the near future, you will not be disappointed!

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 3 роки тому +3

      @@Hey_Blinkin the coyote is a different monster, it doesn't slap you in the face as much, but it's just insane how it just keeps pulling, and pulling, and pulling, yanno the LS motor might make peak around 4500-6k, meanwhile we're revving to 9 and making more power the whole way there. Completely different, but I prefer the coyote, and fyi if you want a really torquey coyote you can put a cam ground for torque in, like off the f150, and all of a sudden I can't tell much of a difference, but it's much easier to put aggressive cams stock in a DOHC motor so that's why the performance version get such aggressive cams from stock.

    • @Jpilgrim30
      @Jpilgrim30 3 роки тому +1

      @rross27 I had a ‘96 Z28 and the old LT1 got a bad rap due to people using junk optisparks but it was a hell of an engine in its day. It held its ground until the LS1 showed up to take over. It didn’t take much work to get some great results with it.

  • @uptownsamcv
    @uptownsamcv 3 роки тому +153

    I prefer the higher displacement, compact design, and simplicity of the LT. GM has done wonders with the pushrod design.

    • @errorsofmodernism9715
      @errorsofmodernism9715 3 роки тому +10

      lol

    • @jostrander71
      @jostrander71 3 роки тому +11

      LT4 and LT5 are the best motors on the planet

    • @jostrander71
      @jostrander71 3 роки тому +11

      @Frank Bonazza III If you can find a LT4 or LT5 in a junkyard grab it.

    • @redtesta
      @redtesta 3 роки тому +3

      @Frank Bonazza III you gotta be a ford fan .

    • @karlschauff7989
      @karlschauff7989 3 роки тому +10

      @Frank Bonazza III Naw, junkyard trolls love all the Coyote blocks with warped cylinders and grenaded oil pumps.

  • @kiwihame
    @kiwihame 2 роки тому +1

    First time I've come across your channel and I have to say this video was just superb. There was nothing you missed, apart from the sound of the engines. I'm a massive Voodoo fan boy.

  • @dream-_weaver4769
    @dream-_weaver4769 2 роки тому +1

    I don't comment on many videos but this was well done and extremely accurate.
    Great job!

  • @larid1069
    @larid1069 3 роки тому +56

    love the sound of a flat plane crank w/ header's

    • @rapidsqualor5367
      @rapidsqualor5367 3 роки тому +5

      Coyote Mustang drives past my house daily, sounds fantastic. I had a 02 LS1 w/ headers that sounded like a boat. A fast boat.

    • @wickedmainah950
      @wickedmainah950 2 роки тому +1

      I'm a chevy guy but a Ford v8 sounds so much better. Had a few old school 5.0 ho fox bodies, shorty headers, h pipe and Flowmasters sounded amazing . The coyote sounds fantastic as well. I do prefer the low-end grunt of the ls

    • @johnnyturbo8460
      @johnnyturbo8460 Рік тому

      Yeah when they come apart at 8k rpms on the race track it sounds WILD! the bad part is how long it takes to clean up the mess... dang voodoos

  • @tysoncrandell9726
    @tysoncrandell9726 3 роки тому +30

    Great video!! Keep them coming. Best info with the least bias I’ve ever seen

  • @JOHN-ej2wp
    @JOHN-ej2wp 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent review. I appreciate all of the work you put into this.

  • @joemarchinski7798
    @joemarchinski7798 2 роки тому

    Found this video by accident...very well laid out excellent narration...had to subscribe... keep up the good work...

  • @tankedjackish7592
    @tankedjackish7592 3 роки тому +14

    Love the detailed information on these engines

  • @fopeezy3097
    @fopeezy3097 3 роки тому +8

    LOVE this content, just found the channel 30 minutes ago.

  • @djgordon3584
    @djgordon3584 2 роки тому +5

    Lets all agree ford guys and chevy that both of these engines are iconic

  • @fryloc359
    @fryloc359 2 роки тому +3

    I grew up in the dismal low hp era of the 80's. I absolutely love seeing these high tech, high hp, high economy engines coming from the factories. I wish I was a young kid now, because it's so easy to make big power.

  • @JROC734
    @JROC734 3 роки тому +14

    6L LS uses a 4" bore. 6.2L LS and LT uses a 4.065" bore. (6.6L LT as well)

  • @808G8GT
    @808G8GT 3 роки тому +20

    Bang for you buck...LTX wins. Easier to work on, more mods available, more common parts.
    You can build BIG power on both platforms though.

    • @fasteddie617
      @fasteddie617 2 місяці тому

      Bang for your buck, exactly. You can get into Fords 5.2's and 5.4 liters. That's more of a fair fight against GM's LSX.

  • @sgt_loeram1933
    @sgt_loeram1933 Рік тому +3

    Made me fall in love with my Gen 3 Coyote engine all over again 😎

    • @sgt_loeram1933
      @sgt_loeram1933 Рік тому +1

      FWIW, I also have a Gen 1 5.3L LT in my 2000 GMC Sierra, it’s also a FANTASTIC engine! 211k miles and still purrs like a kitty!

  • @harveyrj6502
    @harveyrj6502 Рік тому

    Surprisingly unbiased. Very well done and informative.

  • @BIGEDSIK28
    @BIGEDSIK28 3 роки тому +32

    I am almost done with my degree to be a powertrain development tech and have gotten to take a few coyote motors apart and the older DOHC cobra motors and as much as I have gained respect for them I still don't want to deal with 4 cams and all that timing and the heads can be really tedious if you do not have the skills or experience on these types of motors. I think for simplicity and for someone looking to learn easily on a motor and make really good power without spending gobs of money you have to go with the LS or LT. The voodoo is absolutely ridiculous and is definitely not something to put down. Not too many people really realize just how different these powertrains are. Love the video! will be watching more

    • @Lupine.
      @Lupine. 3 роки тому

      The LT motors are a ticking time-bomb.

    • @BIGEDSIK28
      @BIGEDSIK28 3 роки тому +2

      @@Lupine. its all preference. with the 4 coyotes I've rebuilt at school I could say the same for them lol.

    • @Lupine.
      @Lupine. 3 роки тому

      @@BIGEDSIK28 The LTs are throwing rods and having constant injector issues within 30-40k miles.

    • @taylorc2542
      @taylorc2542 3 роки тому +2

      Retaining the bore spacing from the 91 mod motor has been Ford's original sin. It's the handicap that keeps on handicapping.

    • @Lupine.
      @Lupine. 3 роки тому

      @@taylorc2542 "slappy is sloppy when the service comes due" is what an old hotrod guy told me as a kid.

  • @houseofno
    @houseofno 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this very honest and very fair comparison. Just one small detail - the manual transmission company name is Getrag, with just one 'R' not two in the name. On that topic, before I get criticized for nitpicking, here's one for you: would you want someone to mispronounce YOUR name?
    Overall, great video. Thanks for treating both brands fairly and factually. I am a classic Ford V8 guy who definitely agrees with this unbiased comparison.
    Fresh sub here for a great video.

  • @jamesbowman7963
    @jamesbowman7963 2 роки тому +19

    I was getting 26MPG out of a TPI 89 Firebird with a T56 behind it @ 75MPH mind you. I verified this on 1600 mile round trip. This car was making about 430HP and over 500ftlbs of torque. Of course that year Firebird was very aerodynamic and I had taken about 300lbs out as well as smog pumps. Not saying the new motors are not impressive but.... I think I could build one today maybe get another MPG or two and maybe another 40HP with modern electronics.

    • @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
      @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman Рік тому +3

      I've had an '83 Firebird, '85 Bandit II & an '87 GTA, all great cars

    • @Bloodbain88
      @Bloodbain88 Рік тому +3

      I had a Chevy K30 dually truck with the 350 in it. 3spd auto and 4.10 gears. It got about 7-8mpg. Once I swapped a 12 valve Cummins and a 5 spd in it, I had 230hp, 605ft lbs of torque and get 25 MPG. And that truck has the aerodynamics of a giant brick spinning 6 tires and 2 axles.

  • @livemusic8248
    @livemusic8248 2 роки тому +1

    That was really informative.
    You really did your homework, nice job

  • @blainedahlseide780
    @blainedahlseide780 3 роки тому +3

    I myself have a 2011 f-150 5.0L with 319,000 km on her with a 13L per 100 km fuel average.. I do my maintenance well before fords recommendation, and this truck has never let me down..

  • @leodubray1827
    @leodubray1827 3 роки тому +11

    Both engines are fantastic

  • @jmc2567
    @jmc2567 2 роки тому

    Awesome vid,you covered everything,and excellently explained,both awesome engines,but it,s the flat plane one for me,really enjoyed this vid,first class,you guys rock,thankyou,best wishes,from,Auckland,New Zealand,

  • @harleygrit5358
    @harleygrit5358 2 роки тому +1

    Dude, you've got it goin' with this video! Great Job!

  • @youngestson65
    @youngestson65 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent video. Would love to see many more of these videos.

  • @stephenzerfas5307
    @stephenzerfas5307 3 роки тому +30

    Impressive comparison. Rare to see this level of unbiased review. Great level of explanation. I have owned an LS and now have a Coyote. Both are great engines. I am really impressed with the power, refinement and efficiency of the Coyote. 5.0L and right there with all the other larger displacement engines. I tow with mine so I appreciate the power. Keep up the great work. I also agree the Voodoo engine is an amazing piece of engineering.

  • @AllenCompton-jw8cl
    @AllenCompton-jw8cl Рік тому +4

    Great video, I like both platforms and have done swaps on both. I think it would be great to see some videos of the durability issues that the two engines have. Camshaft issues with the LS/LT engines and the oil pressure issues with the coyote.

  • @jamesperry1944
    @jamesperry1944 2 роки тому

    Awesome video. No matter the motor platform, you win. Such great options.

  • @riverzee1
    @riverzee1 3 роки тому +49

    Great video! My buddy has a corvette and I have a Mustang GT. I feel the LS has low end torque but the coyote just keeps pulling towards the end. In my opinion, maybe the coyote is better for manual transmissions cause you can play with it more. There both great just different.

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 Рік тому

      Clown cars and I'll have a few things to do with my Big SEXY HEMI pal.

    • @ruthlessreid9172
      @ruthlessreid9172 Рік тому +1

      Agreed I have both LS and coyote.

  • @johngregory4801
    @johngregory4801 3 роки тому +13

    The Coyote also went from 302 cid to 307 cid with the Gen 3 updates.

    • @jpogigtxcr1778
      @jpogigtxcr1778 Рік тому

      On the new gen 4, they went back to 302. They had to make a thicker plasma sprayed lining, making a smaller bore,
      for durability.

  • @nickg3235
    @nickg3235 2 роки тому

    Such a great video and channel. Keep ‘em coming!

  • @brucechick2937
    @brucechick2937 Рік тому

    Best comparison to date, great job!

  • @cmac0695
    @cmac0695 3 роки тому +13

    I too am a GM guy, but best comment ever about the Voodoo engine. It sounds like an exotic.

    • @grantdavidson3539
      @grantdavidson3539 3 роки тому

      Gm junk period wait

    • @eastonnida8213
      @eastonnida8213 2 роки тому

      Because exotics have flat cams. It’s better for racing and performance idk why people say the corvette is trying to copy the voodoo engine when if anything it’s copying all European cars

  • @cobracharmer6178
    @cobracharmer6178 3 роки тому +12

    It's amazing how the LT block looks like a modern day version of the 1954 Ford Y-Block.

    • @almodequindre8601
      @almodequindre8601 3 роки тому +9

      Exactly. It looks like the Y block but they also took cues from the Ford Windsor with 10 bolts on the heads and no longer using siamese exhaust ports as the SBC did. The LS looks like the combination of two Ford designs put together. I like both the Coyote and the LS. Go USA.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 3 роки тому +5

      @@almodequindre8601 Amen to that brother.

    • @almodequindre8601
      @almodequindre8601 3 роки тому +4

      @John Stone Yes it did. There are a lot of similarities with the Ford Windsor and with a little machining you can make an LS head fit on a Windsor block. They all take ideas from each other.

    • @almodequindre8601
      @almodequindre8601 3 роки тому +4

      @John Stone Well copy and paste into your YT search and enjoy
      . 351LS Part 6

    • @jaybird4756
      @jaybird4756 3 роки тому

      Lol, having a similar head spacing is not taking something from Ford. Ugh, that was debunked 23 years ago.

  • @andrewipp426
    @andrewipp426 2 роки тому

    Really informative video, interesting when you contemplating engine swaps thank you

  • @psycho6542
    @psycho6542 9 місяців тому

    You are extremely fair with this video, that can be tough when talking about ford vs gm, thanks, keep up the good work

  • @nicholasborrelli7544
    @nicholasborrelli7544 3 роки тому +9

    As a mechanical engineer I approve of and appreciate this video

    • @nobiden3134
      @nobiden3134 2 роки тому

      You shouldn't approve.. the FORD GODZILLA 2 valve pushrod is far more appropriate comparison.. AND Ford will get the cube advantage FOR ONCE..

    • @saltydog7988
      @saltydog7988 Рік тому

      @@onyxphantom6762
      Not even close to most expensive

    • @saltydog7988
      @saltydog7988 Рік тому

      Most expensive to date yes

  • @rollydoucet8909
    @rollydoucet8909 3 роки тому +20

    The performance records of the LS platform speaks for itself.

    • @TheWolfMatt
      @TheWolfMatt 3 роки тому +4

      @NATHAN ENLOE It would probably be another 300 lbs if it were that big. 😅

    • @sharodbell
      @sharodbell 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheWolfMatt Exactly, so the argument is pointless.

    • @bryancaballero8113
      @bryancaballero8113 3 роки тому +5

      Plus the coyote parts are more expensive good motor tho

    • @TheWolfMatt
      @TheWolfMatt 3 роки тому +2

      @@bryancaballero8113 It's been the one good engine that Ford has put together in more than a few years. Took them long enough.

    • @larrypruitt3919
      @larrypruitt3919 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheWolfMatt too bad gm had to copy a Ford design to make a good engine.

  • @ghostman3344
    @ghostman3344 Рік тому

    One of the most interesting videos I've had the pleasure of watching

  • @z06doc86
    @z06doc86 Рік тому

    Excellent review and comparison of the 2 engine platforms.

  • @grizzlycanman4261
    @grizzlycanman4261 3 роки тому +38

    11:45 the LT dynamic fuel management was a nightmare with cylinder deactivation literally killing motors faster than without it. Definitely no a contribution to reliability...

    • @anthonycosta1776
      @anthonycosta1776 2 роки тому +8

      Got that tuned out the minute I drove it off the lot. Not a big issue if addressed.

    • @LangeLS4
      @LangeLS4 2 роки тому +1

      I am gm fanboy, but like mentioned in the video, I am fairly unbiased as I respect all American car manufacturers. Imo GM and Chrysler didn't wanna do a cylinder deactivation system.. let's rewind to 2005-6 when the epa was cracking down on big honking displacement engines. Ford went in the way with downsized turbo 4/6 bangers to please the epa. However GM and Chrysler wanted to keep giving the people what they want, the people still wanted ohv V8 engines but the epa wouldn't have it, so D.O.D later changed to AFM for gm and Chryslers MDS systems was designed to please epa standards, that's why gm and Chryslers included these systems in their cars and trucks. Even though it's a terrible system for reliability, they still made it extremely easy to do a physical delete, since they can't do it from the factory floor, they can sell you the parts and information to be able to do so

    • @stringsattached67
      @stringsattached67 2 роки тому +1

      Eh simple tune out and it's lifter's which is another easy change.

    • @Hamillie_
      @Hamillie_ 2 роки тому

      @@anthonycosta1776 How big of an impact does tuning it out make? I got a '20 SS manual so it doesnt have it from factory but from what ive read on different pages, getting it tuned out or having the manual doesnt really save you from the lifters failing.

    • @mdubz101
      @mdubz101 2 роки тому

      @@Hamillie_ the lifters seem like you could change em in the driveway 🤷.. They make a dod delete kit for your SS as well.

  • @cammacgregor9354
    @cammacgregor9354 3 роки тому +5

    Incredible presentation--!!!

  • @LEGEND04131
    @LEGEND04131 2 роки тому

    Why and the hell people dislike this vid. I think it's an amazing explanation. 👏

  • @jimmbbo
    @jimmbbo 2 роки тому +8

    Enjoyed this video as I own both an '11 Mustang GT with the first gen 412 hp Coyote 6 speed manual and a '19 C7 LT engine Stingray 7 speed manual, and your analysis is spot on...
    When I drive the 'vette I really enjoy the low end torque and acceleration. The Mustang pulls well, but over a longer period and not as viscerally. Both engines are masterpieces of engineering...
    The Coyote gets about 24-25 mpg on the highway and the 'vette will do 30 mpg if I activate the AFM and keep my foot out of it... It's satisfying to get a 500 mile range on an 18 gallon tank :D
    On the occasional track day, the Mustang struggles as its suspension and brakes aren't really intended for the track, it has like a 60/40 weight distribution, making turns more challenging, while the 'vette was designed from the jump for handling with a 50/50 weight split. Both cars do really well on 11+ hour road trips as well.

  • @gian-lucbrasseur207
    @gian-lucbrasseur207 3 роки тому +3

    Great video I love my 3rd gen coyote in the mustang but I certainly respect the LT from my buddies 2020 SS.

  • @reptar5.048
    @reptar5.048 2 роки тому +7

    The 2021 Mach 1 actually has a tremec 6 speed option, making it the first factory paired coyote/tremec.

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. Рік тому +1

    LT1 & Done. That said. Both are phenomenal. Plenty of trouble lurks under both gas pedals 😁

  • @TheShiftKnob
    @TheShiftKnob Рік тому

    You did a great job here. Excellent.

  • @jamesflames9930
    @jamesflames9930 2 роки тому +11

    Both good, i like how GM uses the old pushrod design still with modern tech. Nice low end power with the pushrod.

    • @RollinTwentySix
      @RollinTwentySix 2 роки тому +2

      OHC engines are technically older tech than pushrod. Don't perpetuate the myth.

  • @gaddy8964
    @gaddy8964 3 роки тому +3

    Maaaan this video is f'n awesome....! Thanks for sharing this...!

  • @DanielOrtegoUSA
    @DanielOrtegoUSA 2 роки тому +5

    Great video, so thanks for sharing. I have a planned engine swap from my LS3 to a larger displacement LS-style build. There's no way I could use the Coyote in my build for many reasons. However, I would love to split the difference and pick up the Mercury SB7 but unfortunately, those heads wouldn't fit in my vehicle.

  • @ChrisRobato
    @ChrisRobato Рік тому +1

    Very good video. Nicely explained and concise.

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin 3 роки тому +9

    Awesome video brother I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 140,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK.

  • @EATxDAxPUPU
    @EATxDAxPUPU 3 роки тому +81

    Guys/gals,
    We must all consider the fact that we are living in a time where these phenomenal engines are being choked away by the government. Let’s all take a second to enjoy them and to make as much god damn noise with them as we possibly can. Cheers 🍻

    • @mikeymike4329
      @mikeymike4329 3 роки тому +8

      Kudos brother! I cant stand all shit talk these electric car geeks talk about how good for the enviorment they are. Well in 50 years provided we havent whipped ourselves out with something! Id love to se them trying to rid the enviorment of batteries and acid & other crap in them ect,ect! Bye,bye water supply! Hello poisoned food. Hail to the combustion engines💪✌

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 3 роки тому +2

      @@mikeymike4329 honestly this, alternative fuels made using nuclear power are the real right track, put our motors on propane/CNG, alcoholic fuels, hydrogen, etc. We can still have them and make amazing power with them, but at the same time be FAR cleaner, and then there's hydrogen fuel cell cars, you can rebuild their parts when they eventually crap out at quite low cost, they have a very small battery, and they put out water, great for you everyday Joe who only goes a to b, meanwhile when a tesla goes out of warranty they all but force you to junk it for a new one, can't crush them though because then you let all the nasty battery stuff out and ruin equipment and possibly kill people. But no we gotta support Chinese lithium production that probably creates more pollution in a year than all the cars made from 1990-2000 that are still on the road have in the last 3, including those with removed emissions equipment.

    • @AutoGuild
      @AutoGuild  3 роки тому +5

      I dont know there is something to be said for an electric car and going 0-60 in 2 seconds, thats gotta be fun even if it is mostly silent. You can ALWAYS be the first one off the light no matter what pulls up next to you!

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 3 роки тому +5

      @@AutoGuild *laughs in big tire*

    • @edmurdock4967
      @edmurdock4967 3 роки тому +2

      The most significant post on here✌️

  • @cardo1111
    @cardo1111 11 місяців тому

    Excellent channel, some really insightful and well-presented info 👍🏽

  • @slawdawg23
    @slawdawg23 10 місяців тому

    Greatest video on comparing the engines. Take my sub.

  • @WillGreenZilla
    @WillGreenZilla 3 роки тому +3

    Great video! Love the LT4 in my ZL1 :D

  • @davidlee3812
    @davidlee3812 3 роки тому +24

    An honest chevy boy? Definitely rare! Subscribed.

  • @jyharris
    @jyharris 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome video! I have owned a few Coyote engines, all manuals. Love the reving and the sound!
    My dad retired from GM and I retired from Ford and live in the Motor City, born and raised. It's in my blood!
    Love your videos!

    • @fasteddie617
      @fasteddie617 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you sir for making awesome built American power. Please thank your Dad for me too?

  • @boblund8444
    @boblund8444 2 роки тому +5

    The gen 6 zl1 lt4 also has a dry sump oil system, not just the vette.

  • @JamesWilliams-dj2bp
    @JamesWilliams-dj2bp 3 роки тому +4

    The Boss 302 "red key" tune is an unknown entity.

  • @shedred1967
    @shedred1967 3 роки тому +28

    I'm a big three fan and foreign engine fanboy too. That flat plane crank, may I have it in billet please?

  • @ethanv3653
    @ethanv3653 10 місяців тому

    Huh yeah, great video, Loads of cool info. Nice timelining and specs throughout

  • @carsonhayes1514
    @carsonhayes1514 2 роки тому

    Awesome video, I know this isn’t your thing but could a video about diesels be possible? Cummins, Powerstroke and Duramax? Keep up the great work!

  • @skylerallens
    @skylerallens 3 роки тому +25

    Loving my 6.2L LT2 V8 in my C8 Corvette! Sounds phenomenal with an aftermarket exhaust (Corsa).

    • @elchido3517
      @elchido3517 3 роки тому +1

      My lambo sounds the same with corsa exhaust. 😏

    • @BlackPanther1SS
      @BlackPanther1SS 3 роки тому

      @@elchido3517 let me borrow the lambo this weekend

  • @nordic5490
    @nordic5490 3 роки тому +79

    As soon as you turbo, at eg 20psi, and there are serious airflow demands, the Coyote demolishes the LS due to the 4v vs 2v design.

    • @jamesgeorge4874
      @jamesgeorge4874 3 роки тому +29

      Bullshit. The LT head flows *better* than the Coyote, with less than half the overall mass, and parts. You really fail to grasp the fundamentals of turbochargers if you think an S480 is going to make more power on a 5 litre engine, than it is on a 6.2 litre engine. Especially when the LT head flows *better* than the Coyote, and sports 60-80 more cubic inches of displacement. You need to binge a little of Richard Holdners channel, you could learn a thing or two...

    • @ospremier8581
      @ospremier8581 3 роки тому +23

      @@jamesgeorge4874 you sound like you havent seen how well the coyote performs lol

    • @dariondonte8386
      @dariondonte8386 3 роки тому +10

      @@jamesgeorge4874 8:43 disproves your agrument.

    • @mikekorpi4554
      @mikekorpi4554 3 роки тому +3

      Nothing flows better than the coyote heads

    • @nordic5490
      @nordic5490 3 роки тому +5

      @@jamesgeorge4874 Richart Holner has just demonstrated that a 4v i6 Atlas engine demolishes the 2v when the turbo boost is turned up.
      Physics mate, 4v = more flow. This is why all supercars have an engine design like the Coyote, ie, 4V DOHC VVT

  • @scottpriest2897
    @scottpriest2897 2 роки тому

    Love your detail, brudda!!

  • @digimon916
    @digimon916 2 роки тому

    Very cool/informative/and quite technical channel. Grew up on imports but dont know as much about american engines.

  • @joetheman357
    @joetheman357 3 роки тому +15

    I love coyotes owned a 5.0 mistang and now a 17 f150 im building. Its hard to beat the affordability of the LS, but coyotes are just as fun and make great power

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 3 роки тому +2

      The other great thing about the 18+ coyote is that you actually have double the fuel system after a retune, so you can supercharge/turbo them to a higher level without worrying about fuel.

  • @marcsarfati3291
    @marcsarfati3291 3 роки тому +11

    LT has the nicer plastic cover over the engine. That counts ally.

  • @Travis_LTE
    @Travis_LTE 2 роки тому

    Fanatic video! Thanks!

  • @doctube2020
    @doctube2020 2 роки тому

    Well Done! You've done a lot of research.
    New subscriber.

  • @I_like_turtles_67
    @I_like_turtles_67 3 роки тому +36

    I have a 67 mustang.
    I am staying 351w 5 spd.
    Love the new Ford motors. But I see no reason at this time. To cut out my shock towers, Making room for a coyote engine. Motor already puts down 500 to the tires. NA

    • @Mr.Robert1
      @Mr.Robert1 3 роки тому +9

      Stay with the 351. 😀

    • @dogsense3773
      @dogsense3773 2 роки тому +2

      I have this set up in my 67 cougar thanks

    • @lloydlehr3473
      @lloydlehr3473 2 роки тому

      I love a Windsor. They are my favorite engines. But as far as new engine swaps go. It might eventually be more ideal to do a 7.3 swap over a coyote. You at least wouldn't have to cut out your shock towers.

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 2 роки тому

      @@lloydlehr3473 a 427 us 7 litters:)

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 2 роки тому

      @@lloydlehr3473 a 427 us 7 litters:)

  • @aaronmueller4976
    @aaronmueller4976 3 роки тому +7

    Went through the engine build experience for my ZR1. After assembly they weigh the engine, as they fill the oil by weight not by volume - 590 lbs for the LT5.
    Prior to owning the ZR1, I was driving the GT350 - and you right. The engine is absolutely amazing. I enjoyed driving it even after I picked up the ZR1. It is something completely different and great in it's own way.
    You really have to rev that engine out. It doesn't lack low end torque, but it is noticeably less then the LT5 even before it gets into boost, and honestly it makes it more fun to drive on the street in a lot of cases as you won't kick the back end out at lower rpms with more generous throttle input. It blows people away the first time in it when you just hold it in gear forever.
    The LT5 is just amazing torque and power everywhere. There is not wrong gear or too low of an RPM - if you floor it, it will send you back.

  • @GooglePixelGoogle
    @GooglePixelGoogle 10 місяців тому +3

    The Coyote being shorter front to back than many V8s actually suprised me. I'm in the process of replacing my Gen 1 Coyote short block with a Gen 3 short block. I was able to pull the engine out of my 2012 GT without removing the radiator or fan. I also had enough room at the firewall to get to the bell housing bolts very easily. The only hickup I had was having to detach the steering shaft so that I could pull the engine with the exhaust manifolds attached. The coyote is really not that complicated to work on either. I think the DOHC setup seems to make people think that it's just a huge ordeal to work on. It's not. The Timing chains and sprockets are marked, so you know exactly what goes where, it's pretty hard to mess up.

  • @matthew55793
    @matthew55793 2 роки тому

    I love these videos! Is there somewhere you post all of your charts you made for the videos? I'm addicted to charts and graphs like these and would love to be able to easily save the images.

  • @steiner3626
    @steiner3626 2 роки тому +4

    Hey can you do a thorough video about the GM Northstar engine?

  • @jimsvo4486
    @jimsvo4486 3 роки тому +4

    In your chart for the LS 6.2, the top HP should be 436 due the the NPP exhaust in the Vette.

  • @chrisoconnor3119
    @chrisoconnor3119 Рік тому

    Great video!
    I subbed because you are great

  • @javier73ugz
    @javier73ugz 2 роки тому

    Can you make a video on 6.4 Hemi vs coyote and LT?
    Just found your channel love the amount of information. Great video. 👍

  • @jsteganius6969
    @jsteganius6969 3 роки тому +4

    Like how you presented this. Very nicely done. Keep up the good work!!!!! They are both badass!!!!!!!!

  • @papillon1232
    @papillon1232 3 роки тому +4

    not gonna lie ur videos are byfar the best ones to watch. I am baffled at the idea that u only have 25k subs

    • @rickmassey1272
      @rickmassey1272 3 роки тому

      Because he's posting bullshit specs and car guys recognize it.

  • @levidaniels585
    @levidaniels585 2 роки тому +23

    Im a ford guy and that coyote engine is an absolute jewel! However, i still hold the LS in that #1 spot for engines. Just so much diversity and aftermarket support to make crazy power in an engine thats pretty damn small in size, not displacement since almost all of them are over 5L. Sick video, love learning about stuff like this, keep it up!

    • @frankcrawford416
      @frankcrawford416 2 роки тому

      Well said!

    • @saltydog7988
      @saltydog7988 Рік тому +2

      Nice to finally see a Ford guy understand what this whole argument is about. The coyote is a great engine but the LS just makes more sense for everyday guys on a budget,not to mention size constraints.

    • @raionshishi8290
      @raionshishi8290 10 місяців тому +2

      @@saltydog7988 Tho the budget and size constraints are heavily exaggerated by some Chevy guys to prove the LS is better for builds. Mod for mod the Ford actually beats the Chevy most of the time in power increase especially boost. It's a little more complicated in size and budget yes, but in the end it will be closer than people like to admit since the Ford doesn't require new parts or to completely build the engine, the OEM parts take massive abuse so you end up not spending money on those at all.

    • @saltydog7988
      @saltydog7988 10 місяців тому

      @@raionshishi8290
      I hate to disagree,but it’s not the Chevy guys propagating this story. Tell me how many Chevy guys are swapping in a Ford engine vs Ford guys swapping in a Chevy motor? Not too many is my guess.
      As to the “Chevy just copied Ford” camp…do you really not think if Ford engineers knew what they had designed would they would not have developed it? And if so,what does that say about their engineers?
      Simple fact is GM engineers unconstrained run circles around Ford engineers. BTW…the magnetorheological shocks that let your Mustangs halfway keep up with Camaro’s? Thank GM for those. Y’all whine incessantly about displacement…5.0 vs 5.3/6.0/6.2. Two different schools of thought…but when GM decides to go for the added complexity of DOHC they’ll wipe the floor with your vaunted “Cowdoodie”. BTW…what’s with Ford and these stupid nicknames? Juvenile. You should be happy GM has stayed with cam in block. Gives you at least SOME room to crow. Dollar for dollar your engine still doesn’t compete with an LS,much less an LT engine. When’s the last time ANY Ford won a racing championship? The sixties or seventies? NHRA…nope. Indy car…nope. Daytona…nope. NASCAR…maybe once in the last 20 years. Shows me what OHC is good for. But do tell me how superior Ford is. The only real claim Ford has is when a goofy Texan named Shelby hot rodded their pathetic product did they stood out. Other than that…nada. And had the powers that presided over GM at the time not reigned Zora Arkus Duntov in…you would not even have LeMans in your pocket.
      So please do tell me how Ford is God when it comes to engines.

    • @Swerzuh
      @Swerzuh 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@saltydog7988 Maybe don't be broke? This isn't about what engine is better for those who are poor its about which one is better period, and the Coyote is better. Far more potential, far more efficient. They love boost and revs. Not sure what there isn't to like about the coyote.

  • @savage5128
    @savage5128 2 роки тому +18

    Damn good analysis brother! And I do agree that they are overly complicated but that is what gives them their charm. I'm still sticking with my 351W.