Destiny 2 Lore - The History of the Hunter Vanguards. Crow, Cayde & Caliban's similar Story...

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  • Destiny 2's Lore tells us about the History and repeating story of the Hunter Vanguard position. How the position is often filled upon the death of the one in office & how Crow's Story will be similar to both Cayde's and to that of the Second Hunter Vanguard Caliban, who fell into the role because of duty and decided to serve the City and the Guardians anyway. This is the lore of the Caliban's Hand Exotic armour for Hunters.
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  • @MynameisByf
    @MynameisByf  2 роки тому +40

    Catch me live on twitch with Barb after the video goes live!: www.twitch.tv/barbaricham

  • @slicksilver2961
    @slicksilver2961 2 роки тому +338

    Zavala: I wonder why Hunters have such short lives...
    Ikora: It makes so little sense. They always seem so lively.
    Markus Ren: hehe sparrow/ship go vroooom.
    Crow: I’m going to harass Petra today.
    Cayde: No elevators? I’ll make my own.
    Andal Brask: Cayde, lets make a responsible bet.

    • @da_riceboy161
      @da_riceboy161 2 роки тому +16

      I imagine them (the Hunter Vanguards) as the Chad characters asking each other that. Lol

    • @thefantasticalien6192
      @thefantasticalien6192 2 роки тому +13

      This is literally the 4 versions of my hunter.

    • @aceundead4750
      @aceundead4750 Рік тому +12

      The first Hunter vanguard (idk how to begin to spell the name): let's play high stakes poker with a WISH dragon

    • @Blueroflmao
      @Blueroflmao Рік тому

      Crow: lets sneak up on Amanda while she, a lightless person, is fighting a large group with a chaperone.
      Head gone.

    • @Adam-hs9ft
      @Adam-hs9ft 10 місяців тому +2

      As a hunter main I can confirm we are all like this

  • @Forcer69
    @Forcer69 2 роки тому +752

    The Hunter Vanguards are going for the high score of class with the most leaders

    • @warmachine4535
      @warmachine4535 2 роки тому +31

      Well technically they don’t have a leader, they’re all dead

    • @SSpider41
      @SSpider41 2 роки тому +28

      @@warmachine4535 they didn't all die. Some just left with no word.

    • @blvckreaper462
      @blvckreaper462 2 роки тому +4

      Zavala, Saladin, Saint-14, Shaxx?

    • @Spahki
      @Spahki 2 роки тому +36

      @@blvckreaper462 Byf said 6 known Hunter Vanguards so far. Titans are the guys who sit on the walls. Hunters are the ones who go out into the wilds and get bullied

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 2 роки тому +33

      @@blvckreaper462 Saladin and Shaxx weren't ever Vanguard

  • @isaacsalume6287
    @isaacsalume6287 2 роки тому +163

    I could have sworn I once heard Asher Mir speak a rare idle voice line talking about the Hunter Vanguard after Forsaken released. It was something along the lines of, "Is this the first loss of a Hunter Vanguard for you? This would be my fifth- no, sixth! And they didn't all die, either."

  • @SentinelStudios1
    @SentinelStudios1 2 роки тому +419

    A few things for you, Byf:
    1. Aparajita-4 was one you missed. That was the one before Kauko Swiftriver
    2. The lore tab on the Bombardiers might have fit in well here, given it's the first Vanguard Dare. The one given to Tallulah Fairwind by the Speaker.
    3. You might not remember this since it was in D2 vanilla, but during the missions to reclaim our lost subclasses (I think this was specifically the nightstalker one), a woman was speaking and you weren't entirely sure who it was. Unless that speaker has been otherwise identified, I believe that was Tallulah Fairwind. Let me know what you think

    • @LadyZechie
      @LadyZechie 2 роки тому +73

      On point 3, it was the nightstalker one. I like the idea of that lady being Tallulah since she says a few of the famous Hunter lines, like "hunters, we belong in the wilds", which I'm pretty sure Cayde quoted at some point.
      Also it just makes sense for me since she was a bow user during the Great Hunt, and bows were not a common weapon among Guardians. The only real instance of bow use was... with Nightstalker. So if she was a Nightstalker, it'd just fit together really well

    • @zephyrfield7322
      @zephyrfield7322 2 роки тому +37

      @Patrick Roell. The Hunter speaking on that mission could also be Quantis Rhee, a Nightstalker sighted on the Orpheus Rigs exotic

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 2 роки тому +37

      Just for reference to point 1: Aparajita-4 is mentioned as being Hunter Vanguard in the Peregrine Greaves lore tab

    • @SentinelStudios1
      @SentinelStudios1 2 роки тому +4

      @@zephyrfield7322 That's possible too!

    • @pw3ninja
      @pw3ninja 2 роки тому +2

      pretty sure it was fairwind. iirc she says something about not turning down a dare. same thing on bombas

  • @HammerdWalrus
    @HammerdWalrus 2 роки тому +99

    The list of (known) Hunter Vanguards is:
    Tallulah Fairwind - 1st, enjoyed by Ahamkara
    Caliban-8 - 2nd, unknown status
    Aparajita-4 - Former Vanguard, unknown status (3rd?) (Only mentioned in Peregrine Grieves Lore Tab [of all places])
    Kauko Swiftriver - Former Vanguard, missing declared dead (4th?)
    Andal Brask - 5th, Killed by Taniks.
    Cayde-6 - 6th, Killed by Uldren and Co.
    I never caught that Cayde was the 6th Vanguard, definitely not a coincidence, but probably no lore reason.

    • @Notdaedalus-nc1qv
      @Notdaedalus-nc1qv 2 роки тому +11

      “Enjoyed by Ahamkara” AHAHAHAA
      also thanks for the list 🙏

    • @NitroNinja324
      @NitroNinja324 2 роки тому +1

      So Crow's 7? Hmm.....Bungie does favor 7....

  • @riskrunner4532
    @riskrunner4532 2 роки тому +163

    I kinda wish we got more lore on the hunter vanguards previous members, cause we really don't know that much about all of them while we know tons upon tons on the titan and warlock vanguard.
    Although they did have less than hunters so maybe that's why

    • @Thelocalfriend93
      @Thelocalfriend93 2 роки тому +5

      Well, hello there

    • @walrideralp6275
      @walrideralp6275 2 роки тому +4

      i think the lore tab on "Assassin's Cowl" might help answer why we know so little about the past Hunters

  • @spreddable
    @spreddable 2 роки тому +61

    Hunter Dares totally have wish magic imbued in them. It would explain how Crow (Uldren) was conveniently able to take up Cayde's position, and it would be DOPE AS HELL. Imagine you will basically is required to come true.

    • @aceundead4750
      @aceundead4750 Рік тому +4

      Basically the Hunter vanguard position is forced to be filled even without the Speaker. Does that mean if even there is no vanguard technically there will still be a Hunter vanguard?

  • @gumbo821
    @gumbo821 2 роки тому +65

    Speaking of taniks, i hope he gets brought back again. Just for the memes. Either as a scorn or, even funnier, as an eliksni guardian.

    • @DaReaIJesus
      @DaReaIJesus 2 роки тому +12

      The memes 👀

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 2 роки тому +10

      @@DaReaIJesus the dna of the soul!

    • @magic_cfw
      @magic_cfw 2 роки тому +25

      nanomachines mithrax, they harden in response to gjallarhorn rockets

    • @Spahki
      @Spahki 2 роки тому +7

      Get him a Ghost and just chain him up and let the Hunters use him for target practice

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 2 роки тому

      @@magic_cfw god imagine one day someone in pvp survived a gjallahorn shot

  • @bandarsalh1338
    @bandarsalh1338 2 роки тому +46

    I want to see Shiro-4 back in the story
    I want to see his reaction to the growth of crow

    • @riskrunner4532
      @riskrunner4532 2 роки тому +6

      They should've made Shiro his mentor tbh. Shiro has a hard time forgiving the past (which is really evident look at how he's dressed) and Crow had a hard time accepting who he was and what he did. Both could work out these issues in a cool arc. But Crow instead saw his nightmare 2 times and now accepts everything cause Therapy I guess
      The Power of Friendship

    • @s5umm3rr
      @s5umm3rr 2 роки тому +7

      I would love to Shiro back, he is one of my favourite characters. Cayde being his mentor is a cool relationship between them. They shoulda had him as the vanguard scout in the new light campaign, not Shaw Han.
      (being honest, nobody likes Shaw Han)
      But the place of the hunter vanguard will not be for him as somewhere I have seen that he does not want the place as he doesn’t wanna be locked up in that position. His two best friends died as vanguard and he doesn’t wanna end up like that.

  • @ra1nb0wdash7
    @ra1nb0wdash7 2 роки тому +30

    There was a Hunter Vanguard by the name of Aparajita-4 (Apara-heeta) before Kauko (cow-koe) Swiftriver

  • @WhenToastersAttack
    @WhenToastersAttack 2 роки тому +35

    The bit you said about Cayde’s will being carried out at the end is one of the things I like most about this season. The Traveler seems to have taken a personal interest in seeing it through

  • @Vampirequeenstudio
    @Vampirequeenstudio 2 роки тому +7

    Hypothesis: The first Vanguard made a wish. "That my successors remain as long as I did." Cue wish magic taking that to mean "until death"

  • @lavihayoun05
    @lavihayoun05 2 роки тому +5

    Byf: I'm done talking about cayde
    Bungie: How about you do anyway

  • @IASEAGLE5
    @IASEAGLE5 2 роки тому +16

    Doesn't matter if Crow or Sweeperbot get the Vanguard job, Hunters will ALWAYS do their thing it's just how we work. The nature of the job is what makes it so exciting and deadly. You are far less likely to die guarding a wall of blowing the dust off old manuscripts... But the wilderness will get you when your time is up.

    • @RoboKingdom
      @RoboKingdom 2 роки тому +13

      That's the thing I always find funny about the classes. For there to ever really be a true threat to Titans and Warlocks, or a threat to the City in general, it means a good number of Hunters had to die putting up a hell of a fight. We don't go down that easy, so I can just imagine the smile on a Hunter's face when they die a final death and say "You're gonna regret that." to whatever sad sap approaches the walls.

    • @theadministrator4765
      @theadministrator4765 2 роки тому +6

      I think its funny how trials hunters are the most terrifying hunter variant you'll ever encounter, but they rarely go into pve content

  • @nuketown2015
    @nuketown2015 2 роки тому +8

    I feel that the hunter vanguards are literally the only people who go and actually try do something with their fellow guardians, just to only be killed not even 5 seconds later

    • @repthe21st66
      @repthe21st66 Рік тому

      And perfectly exemplifying why strategic commanders aren't supposed to be on the front line

  • @c4sualcycl0ps48
    @c4sualcycl0ps48 2 роки тому +354

    I think this prolonged absence could be a good way for the hunter vanguard to become a more solid foundation. Andal seemed to have a bit of a sense for making the position have some form of command over the other hunters having a core group he could go to for help.
    Shiro, Ana, Marcus, Shaw, and other prominent hunters need to be ready to stand up and support whoever takes the seat next. It can’t be a lone-wolf position anymore

    • @riskrunner4532
      @riskrunner4532 2 роки тому +53

      Glad someone remembers Shiro, Bungie sure don't at this point...

    • @bspoon2529
      @bspoon2529 2 роки тому +17

      @@riskrunner4532 i mean in the info package before this season they said trespasser was back and mentioned it was shiro 4’s sidearm i guess you forgot maybe

    • @riskrunner4532
      @riskrunner4532 2 роки тому +33

      @@bspoon2529 I know they remember him... What I mean is that they refuse to do anything with him in the lore or gameplay basically leaving him forsaken.
      He gets a few mentions but is left in the dust none the less, his own gun was stripped of everything tied to him other than the guns name alone and that mention.

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 2 роки тому +11

      I want Shiro-4 to become a proper Iron Lord or something, he needs some love tbh

    • @TheRockemsockm
      @TheRockemsockm 2 роки тому +5

      Colonel has full support

  • @LilKittyKat-C
    @LilKittyKat-C 2 роки тому +12

    The quality while reading the lore is something that I didn't at first notice, but when you did the part where Speaker was talking over his shoulder, I noticed that you talked just like it was said.

  • @twas_a_cat7721
    @twas_a_cat7721 2 роки тому +15

    Honestly my only gripe with Crow as the new Hunter Vanguard by now is that he is just too new to being a Guardian himself. In D1 at least, part of the Vanguards job was to mentor new Lights. And I might have missed some important lore, given that I had some pretty big breaks between playing D2, but at least to my knowledge Crow lacks the experience as a Hunter to be a mentor himself and the connections to at least point new lights to Hunters who could. If Bungie manages to find a believable workaround to that, Crow can sit at the desk for all I care.

    • @davidcremin3837
      @davidcremin3837 2 роки тому +4

      Maybe the fact he has access to his life as Uldren Sov counts ad experience

    • @Demios101
      @Demios101 2 роки тому +3

      Crow lacks experience that much is true, but he has been interwoven in things most hunters can only dream of since season of the hunt. He's still "young" and "dumb" but think of those things as supercharging his experience, not to mention his complete knowledge of Uldren's (who has been doing work since the awoken left the distributary) skills and tactics at basically being the awoken variant of a hunter. His emotional slant makes him just like other hunters, though I think his grave mistake along with Saladin's "sacrifice" last season tempers him out.

    • @ShaoShaoMienshao
      @ShaoShaoMienshao 2 роки тому +5

      Crow has recovered Uldren's memories, and with it, literally thousands of years of experience as the right-hand man of the Queen, ace pilot, royal enforcer, and leader of an elite unit. They make note of this through the Nightmare of Uldren, who mocks Crow for "shooting more like me" and strategizing more like his past life ever since he regained those memories. It is also talked about in the resolution where the Nightmare becomes the Memory, with Crow noting how that as he stops running away from his/their past, he can instead use all of Uldren's knowledge, cross-reference it with the experiences of his new life, and use those past memories of Uldren's mistakes -- and triumphs -- to do good deeds in the future, even if he can't change the past.
      Crow's been a Risen Lightbearer for several years now, and had to survive in the wilds as a lone Hunter would. For over the past year, he's been working as a scout for the City as a Guardian. Now, he has several millennia of experience and knowledge to draw from. And, most importantly, he has an honorable reason to actually want to be Hunter Vanguard, and not just have the position dropped in his lap, like the others.
      He also shows a deep concern for all living things and peoples, and is an excellent scout that prefers to get things done swiftly and discreetly. He has the exact sort of skillset that the Vanguard needs right now, OTHER than just being someone who can rally the other Hunters.
      I think that Crow would make an excellent Hunter Vanguard in the grand scheme. I want to see Ikora and Crow make amends, and personally bequeath unto him the Ace of Spades.

    • @sergiomariotti9354
      @sergiomariotti9354 Рік тому

      ​@@ShaoShaoMienshaothe Ace of Spades is only for Cayde-6 and The Guardian, no other should use that gun. Crow has his own gun

    • @SkibidiNigs
      @SkibidiNigs 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sergiomariotti9354Bro tryna gatekeep Aos

  • @bdeamon1
    @bdeamon1 2 роки тому +5

    Hunter Civil War event to decide the next Hunter Vanguard!

    • @da_riceboy161
      @da_riceboy161 2 роки тому

      Warlocks and Titans: The fuck they doing over there?

  • @fysy9989
    @fysy9989 2 роки тому +2

    Hunters when they become the vanguard: "guess I'll die"

  • @s5umm3rr
    @s5umm3rr 2 роки тому +102

    It says Cayde in the title, I click. I am a simple girl 🙂👍

    • @gearfox7
      @gearfox7 2 роки тому +13

      **looks at username** oh, you dont say?

    • @vall182
      @vall182 2 роки тому +10

      Gosh I miss Cayde

    • @s5umm3rr
      @s5umm3rr 2 роки тому +8

      @@gearfox7 👀hah I’m definitely not a simp 🙂

    • @JbFaLLeN23
      @JbFaLLeN23 2 роки тому +1

      We hunters love us some Cayde!

    • @gearfox7
      @gearfox7 2 роки тому +5

      @@s5umm3rr
      🤔 💭
      [Press x to doubt]

  • @notpahanin
    @notpahanin 2 роки тому +8

    I’ve always found it interesting that Hunters have been the ones to shirk responsibility and ignore authority even before Cayde was Hunter Vanguard. Classes exist as a discipline of the Light. I wonder if personality shapes the growth of a Guardian’s Light. Of course this is contrary to the New Light experience where you begin as a Titan or Warlock or Hunter.

    • @cjbladesworth8049
      @cjbladesworth8049 2 роки тому +1

      Drifter is a warlock that behaves like a Titan, Eris is a hunter that behaves like a warlock.
      Classes in D2 are determined from resurrection, and personality is shaped by experience and exposure to stereotypes. Hunters are expected to be the scouts, the vanguard, the arrow that pierces deeply into the darkness. That’s why they’re hard to confine to the tower.

    • @notpahanin
      @notpahanin 2 роки тому +1

      @@cjbladesworth8049 I don’t think Drifter’s class was specified. I think in some of the Aunor lore books his class is unknown. I get your point though. There will always be exceptions to the rule. Titans as carefree as Hunters and Hunters that delve into experimentation with the darkness. I just found it interesting how early on the stereotype for Hunters was formed. Way before Cayde who was the quintessential Hunter in the Vanguard seat.

    • @cjbladesworth8049
      @cjbladesworth8049 2 роки тому

      @@notpahanin Not confirmed, but it’s been implied to be a warlock. And yeah, sun breakers were basically hunters in titan bodies.

  • @Nattsmygarn
    @Nattsmygarn 2 роки тому +2

    Changing up the hunter vanguard now and then adds variety!
    Also Tallulah Fairwind is my favorite name, full stop.

  • @zombieslaya3456
    @zombieslaya3456 2 роки тому +1

    I think that lore tab for Caliban's hand not only shows the personality for Caliban but also the charisma of the Speaker at the time. He was an amazing leader that could motivate even the hunters into action. Everyone believed in him and it shows how big a loss a man like him was and how important having someone like a Speaker was.

  • @marcum209
    @marcum209 2 роки тому +5

    I cant wait to see how much growth is planned for crow

    • @FatalFrostbyte29
      @FatalFrostbyte29 2 роки тому +1

      He has potential, a fitting replacement for Cayde if you have seen old footage of Crow.

  • @bedopskepop7936
    @bedopskepop7936 2 роки тому +5

    I had a weird feeling and thought while watching the end of the video when you discussed crow. I feel he will encounter one of the dredgens of jor. And will have to defeat them. Weird but it’d certainly gain the trust of other gaurdians that he defeated and maybe even killed a dark light bearer

  • @mr.god.complex
    @mr.god.complex 2 роки тому +55

    About the Vanguard thing: yeah nah. As a lifelong hunter main I really think that the only way to get another hunter into that position is to rope them in with honor, and the only honor strong enough to keep us there is that which springs from death. It’s sad, but it’s reality. Honestly, I don’t think hunters need a Vanguard. Really, what I think the youngins need is are mentors, just old hunters giving them insight and guidance. I’ve done that from time to time. There were two in Taken King, one in vanilla D2, one in Forsaken, three in beyond light, and I gave them all clan invites and we’re quite the fireteam. You don’t have to be locked in a tower to mentor and lead. That’s never been our style anyways. We lead from the front.

    • @williamlabadie932
      @williamlabadie932 2 роки тому +13

      Nice job linking the lore to your game experience. That's what I think the Speaker wanted to do with the whole Hunter vanguard thing. I don't know about the other Hunter vanguard members, but when I started to play back in The Dark Below I tried to follow the example Cayde gave of what it takes to be a great Hunter. I wasn't really able to mentor other new Hunters, but I mentored some Guardians.
      We can also see how Hunter mentors would be extremely efficient with how crow was Guardian who thought he knew everything to be a good one until Saladin showed him a thing or two about being a Guardian.

    • @banterlegends5347
      @banterlegends5347 2 роки тому +9

      I remember when my Hunter got thorn and another hunter asked mine for help with the strike and I set him on a path that’s since led to him being a raider and Trials regular. The evolution was beautiful to witness

    • @mr.god.complex
      @mr.god.complex 2 роки тому +1

      @@banterlegends5347 hell yeah bro! That’s what we do!

    • @xdsmile5359
      @xdsmile5359 2 роки тому +1

      Te only we will ever get another hunter vangaurad is someone willing to do paper work and stay confined in the tower.

  • @Rainyrogue7221
    @Rainyrogue7221 2 роки тому +1

    "let fury guide your weapons,let vengeance be your song,we are the sons of Caliban,and our enemies shall fall!!!"

  • @Butter_Warrior99
    @Butter_Warrior99 2 роки тому +2

    History loves to rhyme, and I guess the Traveler is a poet.

  • @jaedynwhitfield499
    @jaedynwhitfield499 2 роки тому +2

    I've said it a million times, and I'll say it again. Hunters have the coolest class lore.

  • @reamoinmcdonachadh9519
    @reamoinmcdonachadh9519 2 роки тому +8

    That Uldren Crow or just plain Crow should be Hunter Vanguard would fit Cayde 6's Humour, and maintain the Hunter's Dare. Justice demands a life FOR a life, and better life than Crow's to offer? As Hunter Vanguard Crow would be the sacrifice required.

    • @Wulfspyder
      @Wulfspyder 2 роки тому +2

      I still don't think Crow can take the position. It wasn't Crow that took out Cayde. He'd have to deal a whole new Dare.

    • @reamoinmcdonachadh9519
      @reamoinmcdonachadh9519 2 роки тому +1

      @@Wulfspyder Hmm, It wasn't Crow who did the deed, that is true. It was Prince Uldren So. And yes either Petra Venge or Our Guardian who did for Uldren,.........But it was the The Traveller through a Ghost who chose to give Uldren the power of the Light and raised him back as Crow. And it is Crow who has now chosen to accept the Vanguard Dare, to BE Hunter Vanguard, (as he believes this to be the Traveller's purpose in resurrecting Uldren) Uldren & Crow, two distinct but intertwined persons, one body. I guess being Awoken also does not quite help matters. I know being brother to Mara So, Queen of the Awoken equally complicates matters.
      Whatever the outcome, Hunters NEED a Vanguard Leader. It remains to be seen whether Uldren/Crow fit the bill.

    • @kijjin9893
      @kijjin9893 2 роки тому

      @@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 I don’t think he fits the vanguard tho
      He gets so sad and sentimental at the death of anyone and takes it to heart, which anyone should but he’s gonna be “responsible” for many deaths, and hasn’t really taken responsibility for what he’s done
      (Salad bar) but it did lead to someone on caitls war council so I guess it’s a plus

  • @sethmason8570
    @sethmason8570 2 роки тому

    Speaking of crow, I don’t think many people remember but back when bungie was doing the trailers for forsaken, there were images shown of an awoken male, now obviously crow/uldren wearing the scaly get up with a hood and some red clothing underneath, he also had a sawed-off double barrel shotgun on him. I have a feeling that if that wasn’t just concept art, that he does find his way into filling the hunter vanguard spot and that either he crafts/finds the shotgun or it is given to him as a congratulatory gift from someone in the tower for becoming the hunter vanguard.

  • @zaelheimricht4978
    @zaelheimricht4978 2 роки тому +4

    Pretty sure Cayde would find the whole situation hilarious.

  • @Thumper795
    @Thumper795 2 роки тому +1

    I would love to see Ikora free her nightmare. The dialog between a good Cayde nightmare and Crow would be comedy gold.

  • @Spike2276
    @Spike2276 2 роки тому +2

    Titans are at 2 Vanguards, 2 Vanguard commanders, 2 are alive and accounted for
    Warlocks are at 2 Vanguards, 1 Vanguard commander, 2 are alive (although Osiris is in a coma) and accounted for
    Hunters are at 6 Vanguards, 0 Vanguard commanders, 3 confirmed KIA, 2 unaccounted for, 1 alive and accounted for
    No wonder that no one wants to be the next Hunter Vanguard

  • @henry600143
    @henry600143 2 роки тому +1

    After completing sever: resolve, wander around pleasure gardens and pools. Red taken strength things can be walked into for lore. The memories we’ve cleansed speak. Seems to be a ton of em

  • @JBinFL
    @JBinFL 2 роки тому

    Thank you for including that Last Wish theme near the end

  • @Thumper795
    @Thumper795 2 роки тому

    Loved the little bit of voice acting with the speaker walking down the hall 👍

  • @steelgriffin7716
    @steelgriffin7716 2 роки тому +37

    I'm okay with Crow having it. I also hope Crow's Dare is that if anyone thinks they can do the job better, come do it. Good way to KEEP that job.

  • @ra1nb0wdash7
    @ra1nb0wdash7 2 роки тому +4

    Tallulah Fairwind lets gooooo!

    • @lavihayoun05
      @lavihayoun05 2 роки тому +2

      she bet her life on a game of poker with an ahamkara

    • @s5umm3rr
      @s5umm3rr 2 роки тому +1

      @@lavihayoun05 it’s a hunter, what do you expect? We just like to gamble as it seems

    • @ra1nb0wdash7
      @ra1nb0wdash7 2 роки тому

      @@lavihayoun05 indeed

  • @kingofantigua89
    @kingofantigua89 2 роки тому

    Seriously, why does this man’s channel not have 1mil subs yet?!? Stellar content as always

  • @andino611
    @andino611 2 роки тому +3

    What about the egg Mara seems to still have?

  • @thursdaygirl_
    @thursdaygirl_ 2 роки тому +1

    so great to see the speaker again in the lore. still holding out hope that mithrax gets the light, and possibly becomes a new speaker

  • @szxnv
    @szxnv 2 роки тому +1

    graduation tomorrow and watching this for sleep my boys

  • @HypernovaBolts11
    @HypernovaBolts11 2 роки тому +1

    I CALLED THIS AS FAR BACK AS SHADOWKEEP!

  • @wadesworld9509
    @wadesworld9509 2 роки тому +29

    Just realized this Caliban is who Sloane was talking about in that Strike on Titan. 🤯😱
    Edit: that strike was the Savathun’s Song. He was apart of that fireteam of 9 that didn’t make it out.
    And now I want Titan to come back 😕🥺

    • @FatalFrostbyte29
      @FatalFrostbyte29 2 роки тому +3

      To the Ishtar Collective! We must check the quotes if they have them!

    • @williamlabadie932
      @williamlabadie932 2 роки тому +12

      From what I was able to gather, it's the name of the operation of the strike, but it probably has a link with Caliban-8.

    • @SentinelStudios1
      @SentinelStudios1 2 роки тому +12

      @@williamlabadie932 I think you've got it right: Caliban was the name of the strike operation/team. It might have been named after him, but I think it's just coincidental

    • @davidharrison9888
      @davidharrison9888 2 роки тому

      Pretty sure tho there was theory’s going round that that could’ve been savathun tricking us because a normal strike team should only consist of 3 not 9 but I could be wrong

    • @rasputinloveroftherussianq1985
      @rasputinloveroftherussianq1985 2 роки тому +2

      @@williamlabadie932 Exactly. If we go by the Comms Dialogue in other strikes, Caliban was a automaticly generated name for an operation, just like Piccolo (exodus crash or something) or Baby Dog (Lake of Shadows)

  • @feliciascorner9795
    @feliciascorner9795 2 роки тому +1

    I remember in the Savathûn's Song Strike, Takeo-3 calling out over comms for Caliban. So it seems to me he stepped away from the role somehow or roped someone else into doing it, and ended up dying to a hive wizard who sucked the light out of him. Horrible way to go.

  • @f-jayplayz6236
    @f-jayplayz6236 2 роки тому +2

    Everyone said I was stupid when I pointed out that based on the recordings from the Ace of Spades mission Crow had to be the vanguard by default. Who was right? Me

  • @personbadatgames
    @personbadatgames 2 роки тому +1

    This is the earliest I have been

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 2 роки тому +2

    each class has something weird associated with them Hunter Vanguards dying, whole Titan Orders going extinct, and Warlocks going mad

    • @williamlabadie932
      @williamlabadie932 2 роки тому +2

      Hunter Vanguards are too cool to stay alive. Titans are too loyal to the Vanguard to keep their Orders. And Warlocks are just too big brain to stay mentally stable.

  • @kennycarver1774
    @kennycarver1774 2 роки тому

    Pro rocket skills incoming at 8:49. LOL J/K Byf, love you man. I feel your pain. If it wasn't for tracking rockets I'd probably never hit anything either.

  • @ShaoShaoMienshao
    @ShaoShaoMienshao 2 роки тому +1

    For those who don't think Crow is worthy, or that his ascent to the position has come too soon:
    Crow has recovered Uldren's memories, and with it, literally thousands of years of experience as the right-hand man of the Queen, ace pilot, royal enforcer, and leader of an elite unit. They make note of this through the Nightmare of Uldren, who mocks Crow for "shooting more like me" and strategizing more like his past life ever since he regained those memories. It is also talked about in the resolution where the Nightmare becomes the Memory, with Crow noting how that as he stops running away from his/their past, he can instead use all of Uldren's knowledge, cross-reference it with the experiences of his new life, and use those past memories of Uldren's mistakes -- and triumphs -- to do good deeds in the future, even if he can't change the past.
    Crow's been a Risen Lightbearer for several years now, and had to survive in the wilds as a lone Hunter would. For over the past year, he's been working as a scout for the City as a Guardian. Now, he has several millennia of experience and knowledge to draw from. And, most importantly, he has an honorable reason to actually want to be Hunter Vanguard, and not just have the position dropped in his lap, like the others.
    He also shows a deep concern for all living things and peoples, and is an excellent scout that prefers to get things done swiftly and discreetly. He has the exact sort of skillset that the Vanguard needs right now, OTHER than just being someone who can rally the other Hunters.
    I think that Crow would make an excellent Hunter Vanguard in the grand scheme. I want to see Ikora and Crow make amends, and personally bequeath unto him the Ace of Spades on the day that he is formally promoted to the Vanguard.

    • @lumistrad
      @lumistrad 2 роки тому

      very well thought through. you point to things that i didn't think of.
      the most import point you made is that he want to honor Caydes death and that is the base for the hunter dare.

  • @Canadianweeb
    @Canadianweeb Рік тому

    I’m a returning guardian from the end of the first season of the Beyond Darkness expansion. I’ve been catching up with lore since I left off and I have to say that Crow doesn’t feel like Hunter Vanguard. He still feels like a fledgling guardian still getting his bearings. (May be a bias viewpoint considering I’m an Exo Hunter since D1)

  • @archmagetyler
    @archmagetyler 2 роки тому +3

    As a warlock who has dealt with too many hunters, they are scouts by nature and glory collectors by choice. It’s funny how that choice overcomes their nature in a blink.

  • @mohawkgarry
    @mohawkgarry 2 роки тому

    Bungie designing a new Hunter exotic: "MOAR KNIVES!!"

  • @vizardkurosaki15
    @vizardkurosaki15 2 роки тому +1

    I don't think the hunter vanguard will ever transition peacefully and that's only due to the drifter and his apt phrasing of "So go out on your own terms with a gun in your hand and loot in your pockets" Almost every hunter vanguard we know that died went out in their own way.

  • @Pingis_MacDingis
    @Pingis_MacDingis 2 роки тому +1

    All Crow said was that he would pick up some of Cayde’s old patrols and try to organize the hunters, but he still isn’t the hunter vanguard and I personally hope he never becomes one.

  • @CL22CBURN
    @CL22CBURN Місяць тому

    I think the pattern comes with the unwillingness to accept the role. With adventure comes risk, and that is the life of a hunter.

  • @peterhaag86
    @peterhaag86 2 роки тому

    Byf is back and better than ever!

  • @TALONOFRAZGRIZ
    @TALONOFRAZGRIZ 2 роки тому

    Hunter Vanguard has got that Defense Against the Dark Arts vibe.

  • @obeliskfenrir2100
    @obeliskfenrir2100 2 роки тому

    that hurt me on a spiritual level

  • @bcfb21
    @bcfb21 2 роки тому +1

    just from sheer badassery and talent with leading I think it somewhat likely that at one point or another Jaren Ward (original owner of TLW for those that don't know) could've been a hunter vanguard. If not, he'd have made a damn good one.

  • @BaBboonking
    @BaBboonking 2 роки тому

    I'm not letting myself get eaten by a damn dragon.

  • @surprizeforyou
    @surprizeforyou 2 роки тому +2

    *take me with you*

  • @UNABLEWORD
    @UNABLEWORD 2 роки тому

    That missed rocket shot at 8:54 tho

  • @zerodegreesbelow
    @zerodegreesbelow 2 роки тому +1

    Love new Byfe videos! Caliban hands is super fun in pve!

  • @Nomadx83
    @Nomadx83 2 роки тому

    I can’t wait to see the Crow beeing the Vanguard in charge, he deserve

  • @ronin9380
    @ronin9380 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the work..and the knowledge. Good job

  • @chrismayi
    @chrismayi 2 роки тому +1

    I feel like the reason the hunter vanguard dies or goes missing has to do with Tallulah or Caliban unknowingly making a wish that the ahamkara granted as Tallulah was eaten

  • @trashcatt
    @trashcatt 2 роки тому

    I will never not miss Cayde

  • @michealwatts7469
    @michealwatts7469 2 роки тому

    Need that Hunter Lore…

  • @Kazuhira2249
    @Kazuhira2249 2 роки тому

    absolute chad move by talullah tho

  • @JoshuaSigloch
    @JoshuaSigloch 2 роки тому +7

    As a hunter main. I have a feeling that we would all prefer to die on the hunt or on an adventure. Rather than wither away behind a desk or "retire".

  • @theoutspokentheorist9578
    @theoutspokentheorist9578 2 роки тому +2

    So to those that would assume it'll be Crow; that's a fair assumption, as Crow has been getting a lot of attention since his appearance, and we've seen him slowly redeeming himself for Uldren's actions over time.
    However, it would make very little sense for Crow to be a Hunter Vanguard, at least at the current moment. Crow has very little skill or experience as a Hunter or even as a true and proper Guardian, and it's a proven fact in the lore that Crow does NOT have Uldren's skills or expertise.
    He has memories from his past life, but I assume them to be similar to when we restore Savathun's memories. Enough to go off of, a clear enough picture to figure out the details, but not a play-by-play analysis or anything. Because while Uldren could dismantle a Vex Minotaur with his barehands, Crow gets steamrolled.
    So. The issue here is how is Crow supposed to watch over everyone? How is Crow supposed to have everyone else's back if he still hasn't figured out how to watch his own properly?
    It's more likely to be An Bray. Ana wants to stay and work on Rasputin at the Tower anyway, so being a Vanguard would make sense for her. Plus she's experienced, she's been around since the Dark Ages and she was skilled enough to fake her own death to veteran Guardians. Add that to the whole operation she ran on Mars, plus all the years she spent alone, unseen, unheard? Sounds like a solid Hunter Vanguard to me.

    • @WebofHope
      @WebofHope 2 роки тому

      There's at least one point in lore (I think a book from Season of Arrivals?) where Ana and Zavala talk about it. Z offers her the position (it's made clear that's not the first time the offer's been made) and she outright refuses, saying she needs to be working w/ Rasputin. I agree, I'd love to see her more, but it's pretty clear it won't be as Vanguard.

  • @kingdragoonmk10
    @kingdragoonmk10 2 роки тому

    Judging by Tommy's Matchbook lore window, I imagine many Hunter's in Destiny's universe being more than happy to let this "New Hunter" take the position, ESPECIALLY if they find out the contents of Cayde's Vanguard Dare!
    More freedom for them, and all they have to do is tolerate a new hunter learning the ropes!
    All while he's also a "Hunter" in all the right ways they can dig.

  • @tacoboy2218
    @tacoboy2218 2 роки тому

    Are we going to talk about those first 2 rockets against the spider tank

  • @IHasAToaster
    @IHasAToaster 2 роки тому

    so uh question, in accordance to Cayde's dare "to my killer go all my belongings and titles" does Crow own the Colonel?

  • @giantlizard9158
    @giantlizard9158 2 роки тому

    You forgot that crow also has to deal with caydes debts

  • @porevit5016
    @porevit5016 2 роки тому

    Yeah finaly new videos

  • @justjohn1461
    @justjohn1461 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for another amazing video Eh BYF, keep up the great content Eh
    👉😁👉

    • @justjohn1461
      @justjohn1461 2 роки тому

      Also is it just me or could you see the drifter having a poker match with an ahamkara Eh....I don't know why but that's stuck in my head now lol

  • @mellowknight9350
    @mellowknight9350 2 роки тому

    I read the Lore card for the Tyranny of Heaven completely wrong...oh man...

  • @the_realred5356
    @the_realred5356 2 роки тому +1

    Kauko is a Finnish name. Short of "Kaukomieli", which means roughly translated in english as "far sighted".

  • @LOVEMUFFIN_official
    @LOVEMUFFIN_official Рік тому

    Well, given that Cayde has been proven right about Eris Morn finally ascending to become a Hive Death God with her own worm cult, all that’s left is for Crow to become the Hunter Vanguard, fulfilling the Vanguard Dare, and Cayde will have been right about literally everything.

  • @iarusgoldleaf796
    @iarusgoldleaf796 2 роки тому

    Byf what if the fact that the hunter vanguard dies to pass the title is part of a wish dragons curse. As a hunter I can totally see someone saying that to make it look more daring/dangerous.

  • @IASEAGLE5
    @IASEAGLE5 2 роки тому

    I think there were more. Asher Mir I think said something about him not having met them all and the Peregrine Greaves mentions Aparajita-4 as the hunter Vanguard and this should have been right before Brask.

  • @valettashepard909
    @valettashepard909 2 роки тому

    Tallullah’s death kinda gives me nightmares

  • @likwid_smoke
    @likwid_smoke 2 роки тому

    I'm just glad crow wants the position. He wants to honor a person who was loved by many & unfortunately a person crow will never get to know.

  • @juliane.mfarias9285
    @juliane.mfarias9285 2 роки тому

    I dont know i just love how no Hunter wants to be in the Vanguard. The desk is a hell for us

  • @julianpeterson4227
    @julianpeterson4227 2 роки тому

    would be so cool if caliban just showed up one day alive

  • @agarztheyounger
    @agarztheyounger 2 роки тому +1

    Warlocks: yo check out these manuscripts,
    Titans: What do you mean I can't punch that,
    Hunters: Yo dipshit you should jump into the helmouth with your ghost out, do it you won't no balls.
    "Ight Bet".

  • @seanslaysean7097
    @seanslaysean7097 2 роки тому

    I’d love to see a lore entry that’s formatted like the Bible’s genealogy of Abraham and other characters, but in Destiny it details the Hunter Vanguard Lineage

  • @tartar_sauce2846
    @tartar_sauce2846 2 роки тому

    Byf I was wondering if you knew anything about the pockets of nightmare energy in the royal pools (they might be other places but that’s where I found them) and how Calus called xivu arath by a new name?

  • @owohscorner
    @owohscorner 2 роки тому

    I wish the hunter player becomes the new Vanguard, it'd be pretty cool.

  • @apswindall
    @apswindall 2 роки тому

    I didn’t know the guy who sang “Miss Murder” was a video game character called Crow? Dang… I guess I should’ve chose the blue pill, after all.

  • @DANNYTWISTER46
    @DANNYTWISTER46 2 роки тому

    Failsafe sells high stat Hunter armour the day this video is released coincidence?

  • @kiwii7713
    @kiwii7713 2 роки тому

    i have my speculations on the next hunter vanguard. Caydes hunter dare was his killer gets his place but since that being uldren now crow, i don’t think he’d do it as he’s a completely different person now and his pasts haunts him. having to be in the man he murdereds place may be bad for him. during the red war cause as hawthorn sort of made a bond so maybe the rules would be changed for her. she is sort of hunter like?

  • @parsley7498
    @parsley7498 2 роки тому

    A hunter vanguard passing up the reins, sure
    Another hunter willingly accepting them without the dare,
    Not a chance

  • @laghymclagherson3487
    @laghymclagherson3487 2 роки тому

    I feel like the trend of dyeing makes sense for the leader of the hunters because of they’re adventitious nature although this may just be the few that we know of caliban may have lost the dare he set up and just gave the title away

  • @tylerpeterson19
    @tylerpeterson19 2 роки тому

    S tier video mate 👌