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G A B E, exactly! Despite her upbringing, she was kind, trusting, thoughtful, learned to be courageous and brave, and damn it all if she isn't hardworking! She and those critters probably spent hours cleaning EVERY nook and cranny of that house in the hopes that they may let her stay, so that she will have a home. Huh... She actually epitomizes libertarian and conservative values about hard work, not being entitled, choosing a survivalist mentality instead of a victim "woe is me" mentality. Moreover, it is realistic to have hopes and dreams, but not at the expense of shirking your present responsibilities.
@@AllThePeppermint Exactly! Many abuse victims grow up to be abusers at worst or assholes at best. Not their fault but STILL people like Snow white should be admired.
Basically what I like to do when everything is just drowning me - I like to let it all out and I can't through simple words and therefore prefer to sing it out, especially with someone to sing along
"She's just discovered that she has no home, no friends, and her only family wants to murder her. And yet, within minutes, she wipes away her tears, apologizes for being afraid, and begins looking for ways to start over." YES! EXACTLY! Thank you. A young lady who suffers all the traumas that she has, and who continues on "with a smile and a song"... THAT is a strong female character well beyond modern Disney's scope of understanding.
But why is the “resilient” response the only response that ever gets validated? Not everyone can be as positive and optimistic as Snow White, and they shouldn’t have to be. Personally, I would find a more negative response more believable and relatable.
@@courtneyadams7081because the other responses typically are flaws overcome with resiliance, and perseverance. We value the virtue, as an ideal, because life isn’t clean or neet. Also, did you miss the “Context” segment, this movie was made in the Great Depression, your more realistic version wouldn’t be an escape from reality, no?
I always found the argument of 'snow white cleaning is mysoginist' pretty dumb. She was a 14 year old girl that knew how to clean an cook and she figured out that was what the drawves exactly needed. It wouldn't have mattered if she was a graduated system engenier with a phd. Earning the trust of people that could help her and showing them how she could be useful is, for me, a very smart move.
Yeah, and she didn't coddle the dwarves either. She told them that if they didn't wash their hands they wouldn't get to eat her cooking. I always thought it was cool that she did that
@@curerose6906 Tiana was cooking and cleaning because she was a waitress trying to start her own restaurant. Idk what argument you’re trying to make here but comparing someone who works for money to be an entrepreneur vs someone who works for free sure is a weak one.
Snow White - Abuse victim neglected by her stepmother. Her mother died in childbirth and the king was possibly killed by her stepmother. She was almost killed. And apologies for scaring the animals,I can go on. Cinderella abuse victim stays kind no matter what. Only wanted a night out and was willing to go back to her life. I can go on. Aurora- raised as a peasant and when found she had to go back to her kingdom she cried but she did it. I can go on. (EDIT:just now sorry.) So happy I have one likes and 1K people agree with my point.
I find it funny how people say the princesses are treated like objects, when usually the Prince is actually the trophy the woman gets at the end of the film and is more often than not unnamed.
The first real "love story" Disney told was Lady and the Tramp. Snow White's and Cinderella's princes are really just means to an end. At least Snow White's prince gets a lovely song to sing; Cinderella's prince doesn't even get that.
You're quite right - whilst I can name most of the Disney princesses, I am hard-pressed to even count past more than a couple of fingers when it comes to naming the princes.
Snow White is my favorite princess, especially because of her empathy. When the huntsman explains why he took her away from the castle, there’s a look on her face like, “what a horrible situation we are both in because of the queen.” When she finds the cottage, she assumes the people who live there are orphaned children because of the small furniture. Not only does she decide that she’ll cook and clean to earn a place to stay (skills she has because she was trafficked at the castle), but she wants to take care of orphans in the way she wanted to be cared for as an orphan herself. She is full of love, pain, bravery, and kindness.
Exactly That is why is my favourite princess too, she is so kind and always will empathize, another thing that I like of her is that she thanks the 7 dwarfs for letting her stay in their house by doing something they hate, so that says a lot about her
Wait a minute where did you get “snow white was trafficked at the castle” from? This isn’t meant to come off as me doubting what you’re saying or me thinking your wrong or something. But I like genuinely want to know when/how? she was trafficked in the castle? Was that in the original story, like a brothers grimm version or???
They say Snow White isn't strong, but girlfriend effortlessly controlled every animal in that forest AND seven men who hadn't listened to anyone in years. That's a whole superpower.
I’m always so mad when people describe Snow White as a pushover. She absolutely was NOT a pushover. She was so sassy and she was essentially the leader of the house that she lived in with the dwarves and answered to NOBODY. Instead, they had to answer to her. The only times she was “helpless” was when she was chased out of her home (and if I remember correctly, she was about to give up and be helpless before deciding that she would actually get up and try to live on her own an make the best of the situation by herself) and when she was POISONED (unknowingly). Two things she COULDNT control. Any one of the princesses would be helpless in the same situation it’s not because she’s weak. And even through this,she still managed to stay positive and have a smile on her face. She is such a strong princess I better not see any of y’all disgracing this queen
Her moment of sass was when Grumpy wouldn’t show her his dirty hands and refused to speak to her, and she says “What’s wrong? Cat got your tongue?” She’s such an amazing character.
This made me realize about how the Disney renaissance was shaped by a man for whom a large part of his identity was rejected by society and he was unable to express it, which makes the Renaissance make sense for why there are so many stories about self discovery. But the older films was shaped by a man who had to work hard to keep his company afloat during extremely rough times, so those stories featuring hard work and resilience make sense.
I remember reading that Walt said to Cinderella's VA "You are my favorite heroine." and heard people talk about how the Fairy godmother represents that "miracle" that launch them to a success.
Also at the time it was literally the most iconic voice of all time, so iconic that the voice actress struggled to find work after Snow White’s release because she sounded too much like Snow White.
Fun fact: Walt Disneys favourite Non-english Snow White was Tatiana Angelini who was 14-15 at the time she did the voice for the Swedish 1938 dub. She was the only 14/15 year old that ever played Snow White. All the other languages had adult actresses!
As a woman, I have to argue: what is so wrong with wishing and dreaming about a prince that sweeps you off your feet and saves you from hardship? I’m not saying women need to be dependent on men to feel safe and happy, and women should be raised to be confident and brave on their own. But as a working, single woman, i always thought it would be sooo nice to meet a man who not only loves me, but will happily support and protect me when needed most. And I’ve known men who have said their own wives saved them in many ways . My two cents 😊
As a 30 year old, the mask drops. All that women my age talk about is how they want to meet a nice man and start a family. Friends, acquaintances, even strangers.
Let’s be honest, who *doesn’t* want a companion of some sort? People want friends or to form a meaningful connection with someone. It’s only human nature to not want to be alone.
I’m not at all surprised you’ve had men tell you their wives ‘saved’ them. There have been numerous studies about how men benefit from marriage so much MORE than women☕️
@@Garcelle1987 , incorrect. There have been studies that show married men live five years longer than single men, likely because married men engage in less physically dangerous behaviors because they now have families to care for. Married women on average either live the same amount or one year less than single women, most likely because the only risky behavior most women regularly engage in is child birth, something married women tend to do more than single women. But, other studies have suggested that married men and women actually live 1 to 2 years longer than unmarried men and women. So which benefits more is debatable. None of these studies actually measure *benefits* though, because a benefit like, "My children bring me greater happiness and meaning in life than chasing corporate greed," is hard to measure in a study. It depends entirely on when you talk to people and where they're at in their lives. Older married women report far less mental health problems, for example, while over half of single White women will be diagnosed with mental health problems.
She was an abused child with little agency. Of course she's only wishing for someone loving to take her away from her situation. From her appearance, she is probably taught not to express wants "greed" or it would be meet with a punishment. She doesn't deserve the shit she gets.
I totally agree with you 100% And I wish people would talk about this more because there are a lot of people who actually wish for someone to take them away from their abusive life 🤗
I guess, in a truly unique way, Snow White was the feminist icon people not only overlooks, but completely underestimated. Sure, she wishes for a prince, but like you said, “he’s not even on her mind for majority of the movie.” Snow White gets sh*t done, works hard and faces hardship with a smile and songs.
Ha! ….. this is a Depression Era movie…. And if you listen to music coming out of this time period …. Most songs are about yearning and hopeful for falling in love…. Dream a Little Dream of Me came out in this time period….. the Mamá Cass versión is a Cover….
Personally I would argue that the princesses like Snow White and Cinderella are the strongest. They face emotional and physical threats but respond with kindness and gentle bravery and that’s something that will always be important
It's always pissed me off when people call snow white and cinderella weak. They're emotionally strong as iron, they won't break with any of the miserable circumstances they're thrown into. They come out of them still kind and not jaded or mean. So many could learn from them
I never cared for Disney remakes. Just wanted to say that I GREATLY appreciate this contextualization of Snow White. She's always been one of my favorites.
The only live action remakes that were good were 101 Dalmatians, Cinderella and the Jungle Book. The rest were all unnecessary cash grabs mixed with work garbage. Disney should've done a remake of Black Cauldron that actually followed all five books in the Chronicles of Prydain. But they only care about revisiting their formers successes now instead of innovating trying new things which is what Walt always did. To the end of his life Walt Disney was always pushing the technical envelope on what kind of story he could tell with animation and if he were alive today, he would ashamed and appalled by what his company has become.
I'd say the only good ones are cinderella and maleficent, though jungle book wasn't terrible (i've never seen 101 dalmatians so no comment on that) though it seems like another disney renaissance might be around the corner (or disney might close shop for good, who knows)
One thing I've long admired about Snow White is that she allows herself to cry, but then gets back up a minute later and starts dealing with the problem.
This is also why Cinderella is a good Princess too... She's a surprisingly realistic depiction of a woman who has been abused all her life, but with a specific positive edge to her character. She's afraid, she's upset and angry, she believes so much in the idea that she will never escape her circumstances that her wish isn't to escape but to instead just have at least one night out where she can be happy (she never mentions the prince being what she wants). Heck, people seem to forget that she gets assaulted by her step sisters as her step mother just stands there! And yet despite her horrible situation she's still kind and hard working. When she's given a way out of her circumstances she goes for it, she does everything she can to escape. And sure it was to a prince but this is a fairy tale from a time period where a woman on her own would have no chance in society so honestly that would have been her best shot.
besides, the prince is a representation of leaving abusive relationships to find better ones! Many women abandon abusive parents and siblings and find joy and good love in good friends, lovers and work partners, on this case we have Cinderela find a husband and start a new family despite all her sorrows which should have made her fear trying new relationships
@@missgms7781 For real. My mother was verbally and physically abused by her family, her sisters particularly and on top of that she was starting to show signs of mental illness. Then she met my father, and he said "enough of that shit, you're coming with me and we'll be a family together". And they've been together ever since. Sometimes people really do find a better life with a lover, friends or just anyone that cares for them. The criticisms thrown at Cinderella really seem to be blaming the victim.
@@rats443 I kind of forgot what Cinderella 3 is about. Was it when Anastasia fell in love with the baker or Jack wanting to be useful? Or was it the time when Fairy Godmother's wand was stolen?
Honestly, Snow White going through a traumatic event, such as an attempted murder, and then day dreaming about finding love is so realistic too. She's trying to distract herself and keep positive, and honestly, we all need that sometimes.
I think that's where many people lost the point. People also forget that she's a kind person by nature and wants to help others, which leads her into making a bad decision that nearly killed her. She's a good character.
Also, she's 14. She would obviously be daydreaming about finding the boy of her dreams. Go into any middle school/high school and a vast majority of the girls will be talking about their crush with their friends, dating, or trying to get a crush to notice them.
Snow white does not get enough credit. It annoys me how people just base how good a film is on the story and how the representations and how they reflect today's society and not their own time period. Snow white has so much quality put into it like all of the classic disney films. People don't recognize the beauty of animation and film. And honestly without snow white there's a good chance animation would not be where it is today especially in terms of film. Because of how much of a risk the film was to make in terms of time and money. Especially going into a war era.
As someone from a marginalized group, we want a good representation in a good movie that reflects our struggles but it's really unfair to say that movies of the past aren't good because just because they're from the past. Gone with the Wind is both racist and sexist but it's still a classic and so is Snow White (minus the racist part).
@@adam.n-steve Thats not how I saw it as a child, I saw it as a movie that played a big part in my childhood. It was a cute story with a scary villian in it. And now when I watch it I just admire the animation and the years of effort that went into the movie. When the movie was ever praised it was never about the gender steryotypes and about her being 14, It was always about that it was in colour, it had character, it had music. People dont praise it for those things. I don't think it being shown is even a problem in todays society when literally everything else is extremely feminist. The odd movie where there is a steryotypical representation won't make all little girls want to marry a prince, I was personally nore about the Hannah Montannah lifestyle as a kid as much as I watched Disney classics. Films are more than a story its an art piece through cinematography through studying film I've realised that you should enjoy and respect films for the quality of mise on scene on screen and not meaning behind it because not everything is always made with the intentiom to convey meaning. Snow white was made to inspire people through its art and not the story. I know what people mean but I really dont think it would have an effect on anyone and push gender steryotypes beacsue of the fact people think she's boring and stereotypical compared to the more modern princesses. The film just needs to be praised again for the risks that it took to change film forever as today more and more animation are putting proffit above quality. Disney and pixar seem to be the only ones still taking risks and the competentition focus more on marketing like Illumination whos content is just a joke.
@@Itsant33 I still think those movies are quality but this movie was revolutionary and so inflential and such a big risk It truely changed film forever and thast why Snow White will always be the Queen of Disney
I'm watching this in light of Rachel Zegler absolutely disrespecting the original in order to promote the live action remake, and it's so shocking just how badly everyone behind it misses the point. This is a young girl who continued to stay optimistic and pure despite constant abuse, and that can be feminist too.
no, snow white is not feminist, let’s stop pretending you ever cared about that movie as an excuse to hate on rachel zegler. is her ideas of feminism outdated? yes absolutely. is it okay to be feminine and to fall in love? also yes.but snow white is not a real person. she is a fictional character made by men in 1937 who saw being feminine and falling in love as the ONLY option. i don’t know why people are acting like being a feminine woman is something radical and not literallly the status quo… snow white is a 14 year old who was kissed by a prince whilst she was unconcious, id say it’s pretty fair to critique it
@@mookchie it's critiquing the wrong things about the story that's the problem, i agree all these fairy tales could be updated on their flaws and rereleased in live action why not, but they always just ruin it
@@mookchie First of all, the "14 year old" Snow White wasn't confirmed anywhere, it's just a rumour without any factual basis, neither within productions notes of the Disney version or the fairytale itself. It is literally baseless. Secondly, while critique for the 1937 is always valid, most of it is either already dated and in many ways obsolete or doesn't fit into the setting of a LAR. If Disney thinks Snow White is problematic today, just scrape it like Song of the South; if not, then changing the beloved features is asinine. The controversy of the last weeks just exemplified the structural problems with Disney's LARs. Their classics are timeless despite their "flaws" (thats an nearly universal trait for common fairytales - the popular ones often have less dated elements within them and are therefore more practical in latter eras), so updating ruins the complete setting.
@@mookchie What kind of a weirdo has a problem with the prince kissing Snow White? He didn't kiss her 'while unconscious', as if he thought 'should I ask for consent? Nah!' he kissed her because he believed she was dead and he was kissing her goodbye, which is a gesture people do for recently deceased loved ones _all the time_ - and it also completely innocent and appropriate. It's malicious to suggest it was 'a nonconsensual kiss' when that's not what happened _at all_
Ignore it. 9 times out of 10 the only reason they’re trashing on the original is because they can’t think of any other way to promote their shitty remake. Just scroll past her statement and go about your day. The only thing they can’t monetise is complete apathy towards their product.
Now I want to see a Disney movie where a free-spirited, modern day princess and a more traditional princess have to work together and see through each other’s differences to defeat the villain.
@@ggt47 Villian: hahaha I'm going to destroy your kingdom! Old Princess: Well, actually... *tells them why they shouldn't be evil* Villian: Wow thanks i've never thought about it like that i'll leave your kindgom alone th- New Princess: YEET *drop kicks them off a cliff* Old Princess: God fucking dammit.
@@glittersguts Old princesses. Negotiation, philosophy, understanding your perspective (you surprisingly what a real princess should do). New Princess:GuRl pOwEr. *Kicks the villian down the well*
@@ggt47 I mean, I love a princess who can kick ass, like Mulan for example. But the shift towards powder keg princesses who destroy everything in their path is ehhh.
17:55 I’d like to add onto the forest scene a little, because it has another layer of storytelling that nobody seems to talk about: At the start of the scene, the 13 year old princess Snow White has just had a knife pulled on her by someone she (assumingely) trusted, who then proceeded to tell her that her own *stepmother* ordered him to kill her out of jealousy, and she must run away into the woods to hide. Despite being forced to live as a scullery maid, Snow White is still a princess who’s rarely-ever been outside the palace walls, and *never* on her own. Now she’s lost, in the woods, alone, with no idea where to go or what to do. Keeping this in mind, Snow White doesn’t start seeing the creepy imagery until *after* she’s been spooked twice by normal things (first by an owl, then by a swarm of bats), only then does she see the twigs as fingers grabbing her skirt, and everything else becomes distorted and terrifying. This means that all that spooky imagery was just a product of Snow White’s trauma distorting her perception of reality.
There's literally a bonus feature on the Blu-ray DVD. It's called "In Walt's Words. The Huntsman" which basically covers the queen ordering the henchman to kill her all the way through Snow White's flight through the forest. Look that up
“It ignores the fact that most women in history didn’t have the option to control their own destinies. It implies that unless you singlehandedly push your entire gender forward, you don’t deserve to have your story told. But often the best indicator of strength isn’t whether you reject your circumstances, but how you choose to live with them.” THIS OH MY GOSH. Thank you for wording this idea so incredibly well. I’ve been saying recently that forcing historical women to be strong by our standards removes their agency and how they used it at the time. It may not have been ideal and needed to be changed as history moved forward, but it’s also the world they had to maneuver through. Also, I died at your Star Wars gag. I really appreciate you pointing out the character motivations and the different purpose and goals of this story to other fairytales that often get overlooked, and contextualizing it with the time. This was so incredibly well done. I’ve got my snack for the next 57 videos let’s gooooooo!
Is she really taking the reigns by just settling with who saved her even though they never really got to know each other prior and she is both targeted and an object of love based on her looks?
@@Itsant33 to be fair, it was her dream, it’s not like she felt she was settling for less. The story avoids answering these realistic questions because it wants her to have a happy ending, so the movie ends, assuming that these issues just have no place in a fairytale setting and Snow gets her happy ending.
To be honest, I got a bit teary eyed towards the end, where Snow White's perseverance was rewarded, and realising how universal her story is, especially during these time
She grew up with her own mother figure hating her, making her clean, was almost KILLED… but she got up, found her own place to stay, and was extremely responsible and positive even through everything she went through. She faced so much and still got back up and had hope. Stan Snow White 💃
I’m not huge into Disney let alone the “Disney Princess” marketing line, but I’ve always been really annoyed by the modern day social criticisms levied against Snow White (and Cinderella). Like her happy ending somehow invalidates her life struggles or character strengths. I’m really glad I stumbled upon this video-liked and subscribed!
I'm particularly tired of seeing people praise the "you can't marry a man you just met" line from Frozen, because literally Anna is the only princess to do attempt that. Because none of Walt's Three got engaged in the movie. We do see Cinderella's marriage, but it probably took some time to plan that wedding.
@@ShayLaLaLooHoo Yeah that line is annoying. Yes, it is good to take the time to know someone before you marry them, but Anna is the only time we see a clear example of doing that.
I really like that you talked about the context of when Snow White was made. My grandparents were about ten when this movie came out (but they were very poor and probably never saw it). My grandpa fought in the American army during World War II while my grandmom was under Nazi occupation in Italy. We can make fun of the simplicity by today's standards, but this movie was something to lift people's spirits during a dark time. I've heard a lot of vague stories about what they went through and I can tell why they never go into detail. They're just awful memories. And this is off topic, but I love the older Disney movies because I like love stories. Even if they're simple. I REALLY miss the princes. Especially the Beast. He's always been my favorite Disney character. 😊
I pray for your grandparents and I’m glad they were able to live through it to be able to have children leading to a wonderful grandchild which is you❤️❤️
Thank you for sharing, you really made a point. I'm Italian, all my grandparents went through horrible times. One of my grandads (1923) was kept prisoner by nazis and eventually managed to escape, walking through 2 or 3 different nations, the other one (1932) suffered hunger with his family, being the older of 5 children. Same for his wife, my granny (1935). My other granny (1930) is the only one who doesn't have such awful memories just because she was among the children who were sent off by trains to escape from the upcoming war and hide in the countryside. She still had to look after his younger brothers at the age of 7, after her older sister died at something like 10, and she also wasn't allowed to read books, because they would keep her away from work. How do people nowadays think that a generation like that could have the energy to think about self-identity, finding your way, or other "first world problems". Snow-white was the perfect movie and character to keep them going during those hard times. Btw, my granny (the one who escaped as a child), used to read me classic fairytales all the time, so "old fashioned" Disney movies remind me of those illustrated fairytale books. We also used to watch Anastasia together (yeah, not Disney, I know), and the Once upon a December tune still moves her to tears 💙
@@dianapohe I'm so sorry to hear they had to go through all that. My grandmother was lucky to not have anything bad happen DIRECTLY to her, but I know she saw a lot of death. She was raised on Isola di Liri (a really pretty mountain town) and said that the village men who wouldn't carry up supplies for the Nazis would be shot not question. That's how disposable life was. But she tries to tell me about the fun times she had more. Like how her sister would climb trees to get figs for breakfast and my grandmom was too scared. Or how her grandpa would keep interrupting the rosary to ask if his favorite donkey was locked up safe so his wife would just pray in an angry voice 😆 She loved stuff like that. And that's why I can't get mad at that generation for not caring about identity problems either. They were busy enough just trying to survive. Sometimes it makes me cringe that I was only less than a hundred years off from living like that myself.
@@scribblemeeps Aw, thank you! 😊 They're definetly much happier now. My grandpa is even teaching me how to drive! He taught everyone in the family. His wife included lol
“[Agency as a requirement] ignores the fact that most women in history didn’t have the option to control their own destinies, and implies that unless you single-handedly push your entire gender forward you don’t deserve to have your story told.” YES YES YES! This line KILLED IT. Thank you so much for this video.
Honestly Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora do not get enough credit! I literally wrote a paper on this for my Women's studies class and I will defend these three princesses forever! Modern audiences are quick to dismiss extremely feminine characters as "weak" in favor of "strong" characters. I'm by no means saying that we don't need more "strong" characters, but I don't see why we need to rip apart others who don't fit into today's strong mold. Modern society sees strong characters as possessing traits such as physical strength, intelligence, bravery, and reliability. I loved Cinderella growing up, but because she was seen as a "weak" character in the 2000s, I was getting made fun of. Because I liked Cinderella, I must be weak by extension. The tearing down of these princesses mirrors the bigger issues of women tearing each other down and the devaluing of traits that have been typically seen as feminine. Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora teach anyone important lessons about emotional strength, optimism, and kindness. Not only are these important lessons, but they should be on par with the lessons that Mulan, Tiana, and Moana teach. I love all Disney Princesses. They all have admirable traits. It's all-important. Now, I'm not saying that you have to like all the Disney Princess. Because you don't and that's your preference. As long as you solely don't hate Aurora, Snow White, and Cinderella for displaying traditional 'weak' feminine traits. Or for their lack of traditional 'strong' masculine traits. After all, I love Cinderella, but I also love Belle and Tiana. Feminity is not weak or bad, and Masculinity isn't either. In life, there are different types of intelligence, and just like different types of intelligence, there are different types of strengths in life. Kindness and optimism are just as important as bravery and leadership. I wish that more modern movies showcased this. I wished that more modern audiences recognized this. I love this video so much!
I just think there are so many better movies and princesses that teach lessons on kindness. The reason why I am not a fan of Aurora is because of how boring of a character she is. She does absolutely nothing and sleeps throughout the whole film. I do kind of agree with you on Cinderella, because of what she went through and her positive attitude.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 she literally got pricked on the spinning wheel because she was entranced by maleficent it was not her decision to sleep through it all.
Aurora literally had like no screen time in her own movie but that movie was also made in a rush with less directing and was already on the shelf but they needed to put out a movie so it wasn't that developed in the end
@@captainhowlerwilson508 I disagree. After 16 years of solid hard work and doing her best. She gets tired and takes a nap. And somehow she is such a baddie that even while she's asleep she somehow manifests a better world when she wakes up than the one that existed when she went to sleep. Just kidding. Actually, the way I always saw it was that the sleeping beauty movie was actually about the prince. You know, the only character that does anything in the entire movie. Just like jasmine is a princess but her movie is about Aladdin, sleeping beauty is a princess but the movie was about Philip. Sleeping beauty had just about as much character development and personality as jasmine. The movie was only called sleeping beauty and not prince philip, because that's the fairytale the story was based on
Our generation severely undervalues feminine strengths in general, and unfortunately this blindness is behind these criticisms of snow white and cinderella. These women could have easily been angry and bitter and vengeful, but their spirit has such strength of endurance, grace and patience... In my opinion this ability to embody love in trying circumstances is the ultimate strength. Anyone can beat up the bad guy, so few can love.
Yes. Im even noticing people saying strong female leads should not have love interests, implying they're not as strong as single women. Its getting to the point that people are expecting female leads to be completely stoic, or just lack any emotion except fierce anger. And while i understand there may be a lack of independent female characters, theres absolutely nothing inherently wrong or weak when women fall in love.
I don't know why, but the realization that Snow white was brave and hardworking in the face of a horrible situation really struck a cord with me. I can relate to that on a deep level right about now.
You should do another one on Cinderella. She is literally an abused child and everyone just stares at her and goes “yeaa but like why didn’t you save yourself”
I hate those people, and the message they are explicitly giving anyone that has suffered abuse by saying something that hateful. Cinderella literally fights tooth and nail to get her chance of escape when it presents itself. Until then she was smart and worked within the system she was trapped in. She was a freakin SURVIVOR which totally is a form of bad assery!
@@cincocats320 I completely agree. It’s awful and a form of victim blaming. I don’t care if she’s a fictional character, if someone acts this way it will influence the way they treat actual survivors. It’s disgusting
I remember someone on UA-cam who used that argument a while ago. Even though when almost EVERYONE in the replies was explaining to that dumbass why Cinderella couldn't just defy her stepfamily and escape to who knows where, he was still all "yEaH bUt wHy CoUldn'T sHe juSt SaVe hErSeLf aNd eScApE"
The people who say that Snow White has no agency have no idea what it's like to have an abusive parents. The fact that she remains as good and positive after years of brutal abuse is amazing. She's also supposed to be a child. The no agency arguments just don't hold up.
You have no idea what those people been through don't be a know it all. I grew up abused since I was 3 to the age of 16 and yet I cannot stand snow white. I loved Ariel because I could relate to her wanting to escape to another world beyond her own and her feeling like she was different and not understood by her family. Her tenacity and strong will empowered me to one day escape and start a life of my own as soon as I could and not let anyone stop me. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't give you a right to make baseless claims about someone else's life experiences.
@@Katya_Lastochkamaybe if you can’t, you need to put in the work so you can. Bitterness is NOT good. Snow White is choosing kindness and goodness and beauty despite her circumstances, and so should we all! Snow White isn’t an attempt to relate to the audience; it’s an attempt to inspire the audience to choose to be good and kind. Not everything has to be relatable.
Really terrific analysis! It always bothered me whenever people claim Snow White never did anything to help herself in her situation. The first time the Queen tried to have her killed through the Huntsman, she didn't just stand around and wait for someone to rescue her. She immediately fled from the danger and went looking for a place where her would-be killer couldn't find her. And all the while, she remained hopeful and optimistic that she'll live a normal life without fear again someday. If that's not strength, I don't know what is.
Exactly! It's honestly very sad how so underappreciated she is, ESPECIALLY by Disney themselves these days... :( She was always my favorite princess, along with Cinderella, Aurora, and Tinkerbell. ^^)
Extra emphasis on the "work hard." She was a servant/slave in her own home. She had the skills she learned growing up as a house servant. She would have never learned how to pick up a sword as a house servant. Her world was pulled out from under her and she lost everything she knew and got back up. I am an adult who struggled through a rough bought of anxiety and depression. I had rent and bills to pay so I couldn't just wallow in my self pity and misery. I had to go to work and carry on. Just like Snow White did.
When I was younger I used to be really critical of old disney princesses because I just assumed that their stories implied girls needed a prince to be happy or to save them. But the thing is, snow didn't really need a prince. I mean, she needed some sort of love magic to wake her up from a curse, but she was doin' just fine on her own up until that XD Ultimately it's not that she's just sitting around waiting for a man, it's more like "jee i wish I could marry a prince. Oh well time to get back to work :)"
I swear the adults that push that narrative never watched the movies with their brains turned on. They are simple narratives full of physical acting that gives them subtext and color. This video is brilliant.
@@bilalhussein9730 Leave it to cultural marxists to lie about the past and degrade the culture. They knew better, they just chose to lie, create a fake controversy and grift and profit from the chaos.
My experience is rather different lol, maybe it's because I've never heard of the 'damsel in distress and in need of a prince trope', I really was more focused on Snow White's journey and even had a crush on the dwarves. The prince didn't really stuck out to me, I was just relieved that there's someone able to save her from a situation she completely doesn't have the upper hand on, which is you know, death. I just saw it as someone helping someone through the means of fantasy and lifting a curse, not a prince saving his princess from demise.
Do people forget she’s a 13 year old girl? A teenager doesn’t always know what they truly want? I mean can we blame her for thinking about boys when she’s a little princess who doesn’t have the guidance of her parents. It comes to a point where she just wants to get a new life because her she’s being treated the opposite. For most girls to say she wants her prince is somewhat absurd but she is a princess. She identified her worth not by what her step mom thinks of her, but by the way she is. Her father passed away at such a young age I think what she wants the most is a man in her life to guide and support her and she’s at the age where she also starts to think about romance. However, she finds this in the dwarfs and would of most likely settled with them and forgotten taht she even wanted a prince.
Coming from someone who wants to pursue writing or directing... stories don't always need to be thought-provoking and deep. And even if they are, it doesn't have to be loud about it. I love stories of self-discovery and breaking boundaries (I'm a theater kid for crying out loud), but Snow White is still an amazing film, especially for its time. We love action movies, even if they lack character, because it's exciting to watch a good car chase. We love Mamma Mia, not for its stable plot, but for its fun songs. So why can't we love Snow White, an animated movie that is far from perfect, but has beautiful art and an optimistic outlook?
It's always bothered me when people make fun of the original Disney princesses, Cinderella and snow White especially. They are kind, gentle, resilient characters, which are traditionally female characteristics and I believe rejecting them as weak is also a form of sexism.
Exactly! As a kid I always loved how sweet Cinderella was, and as I grew older I started seeing all this "feminism" going around saying that "strong" women are... not so sweet, and seem to bear more traditionally masculine traits, and that even women scoff at the gentle, dainty traits of traditional femininity, which in a more frank explanation ; they're literally marketing for women to have masculine traits and ditch traditional female traits, like sis why you going back to square one? 😂😂😂
@@Aster-vs8xg I feel like this type of "women must be strong and masculine" feminism is very millennial, since for 30+ women, growing up the only validation they got as women was when they acted like men. These days though I'm very pleasantly surprised by younger girls' view on feminism, since they're taking back traditionally feminine aspects and empowering them. You can see that in the rise of the 2000's pink girly aesthetic, lolita fashion and their love for dresses and vintage clothing, but in personality too as I see way more girls proud to be girly. I'm one of them and my favorite princess is Cinderella! I'm a feminist and I defend her with my life
Absolutely. Feminism is supposed to be about choice. If ur happiness is genuinely cooking, cleaning and taking care of others, finding true love and having children, then that is absolutely fine and equally important to ruling, leadership and creating change, for example. Plus if you look closely, these princesses do present tougher qualities and leadership potential at times, it's just very lightly touched on, ie. Sleeping beauty agreeing to being a princess despite her initial breakdown (which is understandable).
I love that you mention Snow White and Grumpy having the real emotional arc. Honestly, Grumpy is my favorite character in the movie because of how much he goes from being gruff and unimpressed by Snow to feeling friendship, care, and ultimately being devastated by her death. It never feels rushed either, it feels like he just grew to like her. Snow White is a sweet character too, I like how kind she is to everyone she meets and how good she is with animals. That scene with the baby bird really pulls at the heartstrings when you take into account that he mama and papa are gone from her life and she still carries through and thinks of others.
Snow White didn't have an identity crisis, she knew exactly what and how she was, and kept her spirits high no matter what. She was really really tough.
I’m just so impressed with this analysis. I watched it first a year or so ago and it made me develop such a love and appreciation for Snow White. Rewatching it now cuz I’m so sad at how the current Disney crew is badmouthing the original in their press for the remake (which is actually bizarre and why are they making it then). They should all have been required to watch your video and maybe they’d have a different attitude!
I also think Snow is underappreciated for her goodness. She loses her parents, has her title and wealth stripped from her, is treated like a servant and then the only family she has, the person who should love her the most tries to kill her and she ends up lost and alone in a forest with nothing. I don't know a single person who wouldn't be overcome with hate, anger, bitterness and resentment. But she chooses to forgive, stay kind and not let hate take root in her heart. She also never gives up hope for love and a better future despite the facts that she's lost, and no one knows where she is. That to me makes her the strongest person of all time.
I'm glad this popped up in my recommendations, I'm glad lots of folks still understand Disney Snow White's character, I love modern Disney Princesses just as well, but I'm happy in modern times folks still understand Snow and her film particularly
I think every Disney Princess is great in her own way. Whenever a fighter or a lover, they always teach kids to believe In themselves or in their dream, to trust your friends, to love (your friends, your family, your prince). It’s all good messages. Snow White is super cute in my opinion and she bakes beautiful pies. Respect.
The pie scene was a favorite of mine. The little birds making prints with their feet was just so cute! And I've always been curious about gooseberry ever since. I have yet to try it though aha
@@justanothercutefreak It’s very common to grow in gardens in Russian villages. It can be SUPER sour when it’s green, but when it’s gets red in color and ripe it’s very very sweet. It’s not very hard to grow and easy to maintain. Highly recommend if you or your friends have a garden.
Ok i don't think Grumpy was ever intended as a romantic idea lol i think its just she wants her new family to love her and accept her and he is a her most distant most rejecting new guardian so she works extra hard to get his acceptance.
I loved how Grumpy was the one who was the most against Snow staying in their cottage with them but when the animals were warning the dwarves that she was in danger he was the first to give chase and always stayed ahead of the group.
I think both Snow White and Cinderella are good examples of how emotional strength can make a strong person too. Both were abused by their 'families' but kept pushing through and were open & kind to those around them despite how difficult and nightmarish everything got- something that is really underestimated. When Elsa got scared she ran away and had to be dragged back in chains yet she's considered a stronger character because she's physically powerful and there's just more time focussed on emphasising her struggles. While the films of SW and Cinderella don't really hold up to today's social standards, the core of their personalities and resilience are still somethings to admire.
I’ve never had anything against Snow White but wow this video completely changed how I saw the movie! Especially liked how you explained that themes in film reflect the times they’re made in. I’m shocked you don’t have more subscribers, if you keep making videos like this you’ll grow for sure!
Also people seem to forget that she thought the dwarfs were orphan children who didn't have a mom to clean for them. That's why she started cleaning in the first place.
Snow White and Sleeping Beauty are my favorite Disney princess movies. Similar to the incredible points made in this video, Sleeping Beauty has always felt like a survival tale to me. A young girl overcoming a life of deception but still finding the ability to trust and love those who show *her* respect and honesty. She is powerless in the movie, the arc revolves around her finding what she wants for herself despite her agency being taken away from her. The dynamic between Prince Phillip and Aurora is also the most empowering to me of all Disney princess romances. She doesn’t have to jump through hoops and climb mountains for him to respect and care for her, he just... does. He respects her as a human being, with human value, without her having to prove she’s worthy of it. Women shouldn’t have to do twice as much to prove that they have intrinsic human value. Maybe it’s idealistic, but it’s wonderful to see her prince treating her with so much worth. Sleeping beauty is idealistic. It’s a story of two lovers burdened by the mistakes, politics, and ego of their forebears finding love, trust, and respect in each other. Overcoming the things that may make them jaded and trapped in a world that does not support their free agency. Having a partner that respects you, will fight for you, will stand by your side, etc. is not a negative or weak thing to strive for or achieve. That’s a powerful and lovely thing to have in life. Remember, Aurora hasn’t ever been allowed to want anything or know anybody. Falling in love with Prince Phillip is her finding her ability to want things for herself through the kindness of knowing somebody else
I love this analysis and it is so true! Not to mention she had found her whole identity is a lie. Her world had been shattered and she was thrown into a terrible curse she had no power over. She had no way to change her situation and he still loved her regardless.
I think that's a good point that these princesses don't necessarily want a prince or fancy lifestyle, they want real love, and that's a beautiful thing, though I do think it's good to aspire to other things as well, which these girls do, it's just perhaps not always so obvious. Something I've noticed with the more classic disney princesses as well is their stories feature true love saving or helping them, which to me means it's a very sacred form of love approved of and organised by heaven or something like that, so it's very special. The princes in these stories go to huge extremes to save or help them I.e. spending weeks, months or maybe even years trying to find them, scouring the country and going up against dragons, etc. If that isn't love (as well as extreme determination and bravery), I don't know what is and like you say, they are very romantic and respectful. It's a good thing not only to aspire to be with someone like that but to also try and be that way yourself.
I can't warm up to Aurora because she spends so little of the movie awake, although I do like Mary Costa's vocals. A better case could be made for Cinderella. That's not to say Sleeping Beauty doesn't have some active heroines, though. Those three good fairies are badasses.
I also think it’s important to think about the context of the original story, which was told a long time before it was ever written down. The movie stayed pretty close to it. The stories back then were often about someone who is weaker in society. Mostly children, young woman and the poor, being abused by someone with power. Often a family member or someone rich and powerful like a king/queen. But in the end the victim wins, often through pure kindness and innocence because that’s how the world should be, but wasn’t. Snow white was a 14 year old girl abused by her evil queen-stepmother and forced to dress in rags and be a servant, and the prince symbolized her freedom. She wished to be saved by love. She was described as the ideal of innocence, beauty and kindness. She stayed kind even though her stepmother tried to have her killed and her heart (see the symbolism?) cut out. She almost died because she helped an old sick lady, believing the best in a stranger even though she had been warned not to trust anyone. So kindness was also a weakness of hers. But then she was woken up from death thanks to love and she was rewarded for her innocence and her goodness. (Love the video, love snow white. She is stronger than people give her credit for. Liked and subscribed!)
Snow White deserves so much more praise than she gets. People who mock and pick on characters like Snow White and Cinderella so often miss the point of their stories, and how they can empower people who feel like they are in a hopeless situation. And I'm honestly surprised that you don't have more views/subscribers. This is a thorough and well-executed video, and the audio and editing look and feel professional quality. I hope you get the attention you deserve for this! And I never thought about Grumpy's character that way. It's an interesting take, and I like it!
I think it takes a lot of internal strength to survive the sorts of childhoods and lives they lived while maintaining their ability to love, trust, show kindness, hope, etc. Idk what kind of agency people expect a young girl enslaved by a literal witch of a stepmother to have, honestly. Kids struggle every day under abusive parents (without magical powers) and you’d have to be pretty heartless to look at one and accuse them of not having enough agency to free themselves from their circumstances.
@@therewillbefudd Since I was last here, the views/comments/likes on this video have raised dramatically, and the algorithm's bringing people in. Congrats!
Incredible analysis. Thank you for actually trying to understand the movie instead of passing it off as "damsel in distress". I wish you did more analyses on more misunderstood movies.
@@therewillbefudd Jeniffer's Body is one of the movies that come to my mind when I hear the word "misunderstood movie". Would love to see a video by you on it!
I have never thought Snow Whites voice was annoying. Snow White has always been one of my favorites because if her innocence, purity and care for other people and animals.
It's funny how Snow White was mostly show not tell, the most important aspect of any movie, but most movies nowadays are full of monologues of what a character needs to do and what's going on and how they're feeling instead of showing us and letting us discern for ourselves
She is my favorite princess because she is so kind to everyone. Even when she finds out the Queen is trying to kill her, you never hear one bad word about her come out of Snow White's mouth. She works so hard and makes pies, gives kisses, and dreams.
This was an incredible analysis! It's really disappointing to see a lot of people hating on the old Disney princesses when they don't understand the point of the stories.
I think my least favorites are the, "Snow White/Cinderella/Arora never did anything," "Ariel risked everything for a man," "Belle got Stockholm Syndrome," comments. I must fight the urge to magic a 2-hour PowerPoint into existence to show them why they are mistaken. I've always loved old Disney movies. Snow White was my favorite princess! I don't care if someone else dislikes things, that's their life. I just don't like when they misrepresent the thing they don't like. I don't like gore, but I'm not going to say 's message was that redemption isn't possible and if you do anything wrong you and your loved ones deserve to die a horrible death. This was a bit of a rant so I'll stop before it gets any longer.
@Nonaya Bidness You know, I already told you that it was a video by well-known video essayist Lindsey Ellis, but since you didn't want to look it up yourself: ua-cam.com/video/syYCO0QVkZo/v-deo.html
Snow White has such a kind and gentle personality that it’s utterly amazing she remains so wholesome and happy in spite of her troubled upbringing. 🥺 She’s the fairest of them all for reason. ❤️
Honestly, a 14 year old girl wishing for a true love, having a high pitched voice, acting cheery and a bit childish, being gulible, and being a maid in payment of a possibly permanent home.? Why wouldn't anyone like her? She's a child that is surprisingly mature! Anyone who says they hate Snow White either don't know her actual character, or doesn't like Disney overall. The second one is understandable, but the first one is just plain confusing to me.
I have NEVER had a problem with Snow White, she was a young child in a terrible condition that did her best to remain positive and kind. Her ending was questionable by today's standards but they were all the rage during her time. Cinderella remains my favorite Disney princess to this day and that will never change. As a child, I admired her for being an incredible person despite how cruel that world had been to her. None of that will ever change no matter how much they get criticized. The two young girls were incredible people no matter what anyone thinks.
Same I also admire Cinderella and her and Ariel were my two favorite princesses because of how relatable they were and how amazing they are as role models. Elsa as a princess is very bland to me. Cinderella and Ariel are just better princesses than Elsa because we get to spend time seeing what they want and who they are as a person. Elsa isn’t a great character and doesn’t do anything to make up for the fact that she was a horrible sister to Anna and just abandons her even further. Why does Elsa get praised while the first four Disney Princesses get hated on. Without Snow White Cinderella and Ariel Frozen wouldn’t exist. Snow White was the first animated movie Cinderella helped Disney stay afloat and Ariel rebirths Disney. Elsa isn’t on the level of Snow White Cinderella and Ariel she is far from it. Elsa is bland while Cinderella and Ariel have the personality Elsa wish she had. Cinderella and Ariel saved themselves and wanted something for themselves. Ariel and Cinderella remained kind when they were dealing with people destroying something they cared about.
@@greatamazing9620 I 100% agree ...I just couldn't get on the Frozen train...the two female characters terribly annoyed me. They felt like characters more than they did people (if that makes sense). Like yeah Elsa had a secret she was keeping and lost her parents but she became scared and sheltered, to me she had no personality. Cinderella also lost her parents and was basically under the control of a tyrant who mistreated her for YEARS but remained hopeful and pleasant and never lashed out at anyone, she was mature and caring. Ariel was curious and full of life, she was fun and creative despite being controlled by her father and constantly looked over by sebastian (not that I see either of them as bad guys, ik they just wanted to protect her)...despite her almost tragic ending she didn't take it out on anyone, she simply tried her best. These princesses are iconic for a reason...Elsa is only relevant because society loves the "I don't need a man, I am independent!" trope but that should never be a character's personality. Elsa just was not enough for me...she was an awful person for the majority of her movie and it pissed me off
2 years today this video is even more relevant than it has ever been before. Thank you for seeing the future. Rachel Zeigler needs to take a look at this.
I really love Disney's Snow White, I understand why more modern adaptions try to give her a more rebel look but honestly I prefer the innocent just trying to survive. She found a job, a place to stay, and didn't complain about having to work for anything. That is some true strength right there. I also don't get why people call her stupid for not seeing through the Queen's disguise, the woman literally shape shifted and pretended to have a heart attack what Snow going to do? Shut the window and ignore her? (Heck she's smarter here than in the fairy tale where she fell for 3 assassination attempts in a row)
Brilliant video. I’ve never understood the passionate hate of Snow White, but I never knew how to defend her character properly. This video taught me a lot and made me appreciate this film on merits outside its technical and visual successes.
The relationship between Grumpy and Snow White has been one of the highlights of the film for me. 💛 Thank you so much for describing it so beautifully and analyzing it. Chapter 7 is so amazingly titled.
My thoughts exactly. That's why I kinda hate Frozen outside of having a bit needed twist villain. There's not really a reason to make fun of the first three princesses.
This raises an interesting question - maybe Frozen didn't need a traditional villain. It could have worked easily enough if they didn't shoehorn the 'Hans bad' arc in at the last bloody minute.
Also Elsa and Anna arent even Disney princesses because of how well Frozen did at the box office so it's its own franchise apart from the disney princesses also they star in thier own sequal now so they wouldn't be able to be Disney princesses if they wanted to. People always say its because they're queens and I'm just like nonyou dont have to be a princess to be a disney princess and if there's a queen of Disney that is definitely Snow White.
I actually really liked Frozen even if it was a bit stereotypical. Elsa was inspired by a type one diabetic and her battle is a very much a struggle against her abilities/lack of control over her body and accepting that as well as dealing with the mental anguish that comes along with that. She also has the same MBTI personality as me so I relate to her that way too. There are definitely things I would change about Frozen (Frozen 2 was much better IMO) but compared to other movies like Moana, I thought it was good
I actually hate that obnoxious twist with Hans suddenly being turning into a villain. In my eyes it only served to not have Anna face the consequences of her inconstancy and naïveté after kind of falling for Kristoff. It would have actually been a nice touch for Hans not to be a villain and just have a scene where Anna admits to having made a mistake due to her loneliness. Honestly I think Frozen is extremely overrated in regards to this modern period it was made, while Snow White remains a classic. People can laugh all they want about Snow White being naive, but given the time period, and this movie also being aimed at children, it upholds just fine.
I've always loved Snow White, just like how I loved Cinderella. They gave me hope that someday something good will happen. May not be today, or tomorrow, or the next week, but it won't last forever. I just need to keep my chin up and keep going. I'll sing a song to feel better, I'll dream and keep dreaming, and i'll draw for a bit and see where that takes me. These two fictional characters have given me more hope than any adult could have ever given me in a life time. So, thank you. I thank you for seeing the one thing no one else saw in Snow White. It feels so validating, cause I always felt so wrong for liking these girls because of what everyone else said about the old Disney princesses. This video was amazing! I can't wait to see more from you!
i have always loved snow white and this video perfectly explains why. she doesn’t need to have this insane arc in order to be a good princess. she’s sweet and hardworking and that makes her someone we can root for and appreciate
I came back to this video to include how this movie helped me through both the passing of my grandfather and my great-grandfather. I watched this movie all the time as a little girl in my grandparent's house, where I would stay every weekend. I loved it, even there were some parts that scared me (particularly the scene where Snow White is running through the forest). I remember telling him about how sad it made me when Grumpy cries and I asked him, "Why did he cry? He didn't even like Snow White at first!" and he giggled at me. My grandfather passed away in April of 2019, and I was very lost about it. He was very sick from a culmination of illnesses that had lasted years. Yet, even as he struggled to go up and down stairs by himself and I witnessed his body misshaping itself, he always remained a figure of strength to me. In my head, I had always imagined him being there for every big moment of my life - my wedding, my college graduation, my first child (his first grandchild), and many others. It upset me greatly that he wouldn't see any of those milestones. A couple of months ago, I was taking care of my grandmother (his wife, she has fallen very sick as well), and I stayed up late watching Snow White. Watching the movie so late at night brought me right back to being six years old at my grandparent's house, being taken care of by them. I was a hyper child, so they always fell asleep before I did. As I sat there, watching Snow White so late at night, I burst into tears from remembering what it felt like for my grandfather to be right next to me. But I learned a valuable lesson from it. As Snow White was being led to the golden castle in the sky, it reminded me that my grandfather was watching over me and that he was very kind and good to me as a child. I cried both from how it hurt that he wasn't there, but more because I learned to be glad that I had such a good and kind grandfather in the first place. They say that you shouldn't be sad that it's over, but to be happy that it happened. That's what I'm doing now. So thanks Snow White, for teaching me how to move on. I will never watch that movie again without crying. :')
@@shreyakanojiya4744 Thank you for your love! Grieving is never easy, but I can confidently say I’m doing much better now. They were wonderful people, and healing is only getting easier the more I continue. I am going to graduate college this semester with honors, and I can feel them both being so proud of me. I am very excited for what lies ahead! :)
"But often times the best indicator of strength isn't whether you reject your circumstances but how you choose to live with them." Words to live by. That's brilliant!
I never understood why people said she didn’t have a personality, when I watched the movie I could easily understand it. To me she was sweet,gullible,optimistic,bubbly and caring. I never understood why people just said “Her personality is just cooking and cleaning!” because it was the opposite. Like she just seemed like she had a lot of personality to me. That’s just me though, just my opinion.
I feel like quite a bit of the problems people have with these films can be rooted in misogyny: valueing masculine traits over femenine traits. A lot of people who criticize these movies seem to confuse what strength really is. It doesn't have to be actively fighting back through physical or more agressive manners, but can be just persevering.
Very true! If i had gone through what Cinderella or Snow White did I'd he bitter. I fought bitterness through almost my whole 20's over what i did struggle with! Going through abusive unfair hardships and maintaining kindness and positivity IS incredible emotional and mental strength.
I think having a story about a traumatized child learning to make the best out of her life by being resourceful while dreaming of marrying her prince is far better than a story about a prince where we only see a princess be rescued at the end.
We live in a time where nihilism is considered the norm. It plagues everything. We talk about realism all the time, and consider "good art" to be the closest to reality as possible. Snow White is about hope and dreams. It's an unrealistically positive answer to a dark desperate time, and that's why it's beautiful. I believe our nihilism is lowering the quality of our art. It's good to reflect our lives and experiences in media, but it doesn't mean stories with happily ever after endings, where the hero beats all odds and everyone is happy, are bad. If we believe hopes and dreams are stupid, we only keep building a dark, sad future.
Thank you for this! I love Snow White and I dislike when people misrepresent her as a feminist's worst nightmare. People see the Golden Era princesses as weak because they don't have much agency. Their strength comes from them going through heck and high water and making it out the other side without losing their humanity. The Renaissance Era to today's movies focus more on the main characters having to fight to make their lives better. Both of these character types make a good story, but many people dismiss the former because it is less obvious. I loved the video and am looking forward to see more from you!
Another thing is they always say “they depend on a man to save them” or “they don’t need to get married to be happy” something like that but I mean they’re happy in the end are they not??
@@alloriavarner8304 Yep. The Golden Princesses (Snow, Cindy, and Aroura) get a lot of hate for their goal in their movies being, "marry someone." It kind of tells me that the people did not actually pay attention to the movies. Snow White's goal was to not die. Cinderella's goal was to be free of her abusive household for a night. Aroura's goal is... ok her goal is to find love but she only gets 15 minutes of screen time and kind of gets demoted to the McGuffin of the movie (I haven't watched the movie in a while please correct me if I remembered this wrong.) Thanks for responding to me!
@@samseahorse Lol I have my own opinion of Aurora & I guess all I should say about her is that she's a product of the stupidity that raised her plus, she only had like what? 14 lines in the whole movie? The movie is pretty, the music is wonderful, the storyline however is not.
@@alloriavarner8304 I agree the movie is gorgeous. I can't remember much of the music besides the duet but I like it. Aroura's character suffers from not given much development. I called her the McGuffin of her movie because she does not get much screen time to really define her character and is the center of everyone's attention. Maleficent is an excellent villain. Prince Phillip is given much more character than Florian or Charming. The parents actually got lines! I think with all of the other things going on in this movie Arora got left on the sidelines. I think she has potential and if they shifted the focus towards her slightly, I think she would have been a great character.
Despite the comments here, I think Anna might be a good example of a “Modern Classical Disney Princess”. Her want for romantic love isn’t really that important in terms of the film as a whole. She isn’t fighting against anything, she just wants her sister back. While she does suffer for her kindness and naïveté, for the kindness she shows towards her emotionally conflicted sister and the trust she puts in Hans, in the end her willingness to sacrifice for her sister is what saves the day, and she gets both the love of her sister back and a new love interest. While for Snow White the prince was the personification of the happily ever after, for Anna the love of her sister was the happily ever after she had been wanting for all this time. Her strength lies in her unwillingness to give up on her sister, to be optimistic no matter what the world might throw at her. It seems to be an identity seeking movie, but it isn’t. In fact, Elsa is in the wrong for trying to be someone she isn’t because she thinks it’s the best for everyone. Elsa is the damsel in distress of Frozen, her own worst enemy, and _Anna_ is the hero. Not Elsa, Anna. It’s a bit of a subversion of both ideas of what a Disney Princess is.
I like your take. I’ve grown a bit tired of frozen (due to seeing it everywhere), but I’ve found an appreciation for what it has contributed by taking a step back recently. I think that there are still better ways that Disney could bridge the gap between the older princesses and the newer ones without removing the qualities that make them all special and worthwhile. I feel that Frozen tried too hard to push down the older Disney films in favor of trying to appeal to a more hip crowd.
For me movies often shaped who I was and am today. While women like Leia, Rey, Black Widow, Belle, Elsa, Tiana, and Rapunzel taught me to be strong and independent and make me realize my role isn't defined by society as a baby maker with no personality or interests and I can defend myself. But Snow white and even Cinderella have taught me to be not only to let myself be emotional and enjoy the girly side of my gender but they taught me to be emotionally strong. They taught me to be kind even if it's not returned nor is it deserved by the people who hurt me. Snow white taught me that kindness will eventually be repaid if you are kind and compassionate. She taught while it's okay to cry for being overwhelmed by the world but some times crying doesn't get you everything and hard work will get you there. It's why I work hard. And I'll admit for a while I thought the same thing about how Snow White is nothing but a demure and weak woman when really she's just as hard working and independent just she got a prince in the end as a reward. Do I agree with the dated values of Snow White? No but does that mean this movie isn't good or snow white isn't strong emotionally? No this movie is still great even after nearly 80 years😊
@Elizabeth Bennett I agree on this take, Elsa (to me anyway) doesn't have enough characterization or personality to feel like she actually wants something out of life, it srsly just feels like she's bored of the castle and her duties but because she was animated so beautifully with a song number, it blurs that look of it, all we got is her gasping and looking at the window for her to feel *I was always so different, normal rules did not apply* like what normal rules? Wearing clothes? Jumping on ice everywhere? Letting her hair down? Not exactly given, it's not like people hated her in the second movie (In fact, people didn't even hate her in the first one, they were just gasping at her power reveal and it was Weselton that ordered her capture and calls her a monster, she didn't even have to win the hearts of the people or anything, they were readily instantly accepting her in the ending) The sisterly love also feels a bit dubious for me, it just seems Anna that wants to work in the relationship, you could excuse Elsa in the first film but in the second one, she doesn't think twice for Anna, not Anna's safety or emotions, she just wants Anna's presence when it's comfort time or something else, Anna wasn't even allowed to be angry at her by the film's pacing, it feels weirdly like Anna was being a pushover for her sister (This could just be me though) Simply put, Elsa doesn't have enough emotional obstacles or any if anything, to even find herself, she has no interest, no true will, no initiative or dreams, she just apparently *wants to show herself* , which nobody was even against it in Arendelle
@Elizabeth Bennett I have to counterargue. Her arc was learning not to let her fear control her. She was supposed to be someone making bad decisions, who has misguided intentions but wants protects others the only way she knows how. No, I will not count the second movie as canon, thank you very much.
@@alexandersmith4731 Dude. Her obstacles were pretty obvious. She was paranoid about herself and how she could hurt people, so she isolated herself. Let It Go was not the end goal, in fact it’s her making the wrong decision. Her only enemy was herself.
Just a thing: I remember reading that the washing hands scene was to actually educate children and people in general on self hygiene. After all, it links back to what you said at the beginning of the video: it was the 30s. Oh, and "a minimalist fairytale rooted in gothic horror and German expressionism" is by far the best definition of this movie's style I've ever heard. So, I'm waiting for the next 57 videos to come, I guess
Four days ago, I had 83 subscribers, and now comments are coming in faster than I can respond to them! Thank you all so much for watching and sharing your thoughts, keep ‘em coming! I have one non-Disney video essay coming out in the next few weeks, and then I’ll dive straight back into the vault, so don’t go anywhere!
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That's the algorithm for you. ;)
If you think about it, “Snow White” tells the history of a girl who survived a abusive household and found a family where she less expected.
Not only survived but successfully escape and found friends that helped her in her time of need.
😭😍
and girl still keeps a high spirit.
G A B E, exactly! Despite her upbringing, she was kind, trusting, thoughtful, learned to be courageous and brave, and damn it all if she isn't hardworking! She and those critters probably spent hours cleaning EVERY nook and cranny of that house in the hopes that they may let her stay, so that she will have a home.
Huh... She actually epitomizes libertarian and conservative values about hard work, not being entitled, choosing a survivalist mentality instead of a victim "woe is me" mentality. Moreover, it is realistic to have hopes and dreams, but not at the expense of shirking your present responsibilities.
@@AllThePeppermint Exactly! Many abuse victims grow up to be abusers at worst or assholes at best. Not their fault but STILL people like Snow white should be admired.
My favorite line: "Snow white doesn't sing because there's a song in her heart, she sings to endure the horrors that surround her." That is a Mood.
Very relatable. It's literally what I do to cope with my anxiety
Like Quasi and Raps.
Basically what I like to do when everything is just drowning me - I like to let it all out and I can't through simple words and therefore prefer to sing it out, especially with someone to sing along
And sometimes a song in our hearts is what we need to look towards the light surrounded by darkness.
@@zuyu2 I saw that in a video from Sideways. If the emotions of the story is a lot, you sing. If it's even more emotion, you dance.
"She's just discovered that she has no home, no friends, and her only family wants to murder her. And yet, within minutes, she wipes away her tears, apologizes for being afraid, and begins looking for ways to start over."
YES! EXACTLY! Thank you.
A young lady who suffers all the traumas that she has, and who continues on "with a smile and a song"... THAT is a strong female character well beyond modern Disney's scope of understanding.
But why is the “resilient” response the only response that ever gets validated? Not everyone can be as positive and optimistic as Snow White, and they shouldn’t have to be. Personally, I would find a more negative response more believable and relatable.
Amen to that this is a strong female what Rachel Decker is trying to give us is just obnoxious.
@@courtneyadams7081Tbf the same can go with those who use victim-blaming arguments like "why didn't she fight back"?
@@courtneyadams7081because the other responses typically are flaws overcome with resiliance, and perseverance. We value the virtue, as an ideal, because life isn’t clean or neet.
Also, did you miss the “Context” segment, this movie was made in the Great Depression, your more realistic version wouldn’t be an escape from reality, no?
she also has a great relationship with those pigeons
I always found the argument of 'snow white cleaning is mysoginist' pretty dumb. She was a 14 year old girl that knew how to clean an cook and she figured out that was what the drawves exactly needed. It wouldn't have mattered if she was a graduated system engenier with a phd.
Earning the trust of people that could help her and showing them how she could be useful is, for me, a very smart move.
Well put! Thanks for watching!
Yeah, and she didn't coddle the dwarves either. She told them that if they didn't wash their hands they wouldn't get to eat her cooking. I always thought it was cool that she did that
She was literally working to live there for free, people love Tiana for working but shame Snow White for the exact same thing 🤨
@@curerose6906 Tiana was cooking and cleaning because she was a waitress trying to start her own restaurant. Idk what argument you’re trying to make here but comparing someone who works for money to be an entrepreneur vs someone who works for free sure is a weak one.
@@curerose6906 or maybe, you know, Tiana had a more fleshed out character in general?
Snow White - Abuse victim neglected by her stepmother. Her mother died in childbirth and the king was possibly killed by her stepmother. She was almost killed. And apologies for scaring the animals,I can go on.
Cinderella abuse victim stays kind no matter what. Only wanted a night out and was willing to go back to her life. I can go on.
Aurora- raised as a peasant and when found she had to go back to her kingdom she cried but she did it. I can go on.
(EDIT:just now sorry.) So happy I have one likes and 1K people agree with my point.
Love this
@@therewillbefudd Oh,thank you!
Yeah they shouldn’t get hate. They were robbed of their agencies. People are blaming the victims.
Yes! Brianna.
@@scarletnishimoto7916 Yes.
I find it funny how people say the princesses are treated like objects, when usually the Prince is actually the trophy the woman gets at the end of the film and is more often than not unnamed.
The first real "love story" Disney told was Lady and the Tramp. Snow White's and Cinderella's princes are really just means to an end. At least Snow White's prince gets a lovely song to sing; Cinderella's prince doesn't even get that.
You're quite right - whilst I can name most of the Disney princesses, I am hard-pressed to even count past more than a couple of fingers when it comes to naming the princes.
This. Disney movies are female fantasies for children. Just because the princesses are polite doesnt make them pushovers.
@@kelleyceccato7025Cinderella’s prince does get that. Many people forget that the song “so this is love” is mostly a duet between the two.
@@apollyon9946 I think people say that Princesses are treated like objects on a historical context but in movies mostly the prince is the prize
Snow White is my favorite princess, especially because of her empathy. When the huntsman explains why he took her away from the castle, there’s a look on her face like, “what a horrible situation we are both in because of the queen.” When she finds the cottage, she assumes the people who live there are orphaned children because of the small furniture. Not only does she decide that she’ll cook and clean to earn a place to stay (skills she has because she was trafficked at the castle), but she wants to take care of orphans in the way she wanted to be cared for as an orphan herself. She is full of love, pain, bravery, and kindness.
Great points! Thanks for watching
@@therewillbefudd It was a wonderful video, thank you for making it!
A real good model for young ladies, she's my favorite too! ♥️
Exactly That is why is my favourite princess too, she is so kind and always will empathize, another thing that I like of her is that she thanks the 7 dwarfs for letting her stay in their house by doing something they hate, so that says a lot about her
Wait a minute where did you get “snow white was trafficked at the castle” from? This isn’t meant to come off as me doubting what you’re saying or me thinking your wrong or something. But I like genuinely want to know when/how? she was trafficked in the castle? Was that in the original story, like a brothers grimm version or???
They say Snow White isn't strong, but girlfriend effortlessly controlled every animal in that forest AND seven men who hadn't listened to anyone in years. That's a whole superpower.
@@stephany6417 Exactly. Single mother is a great way to describe Snow White. She's literally so strong (same with Cinderella).
Wow I never noticed that! That makes her more awesome!
Shes a whole unit 😎✊
yes. people should say that Aurora (from Sleeping Beauty) isn’t strong. I mean, she slept for her entire movie!
@@stephany6417 in the movie, the ‘ig model’ is even depicted as the villain, ie the looks-obsessed queen.
I’m always so mad when people describe Snow White as a pushover. She absolutely was NOT a pushover. She was so sassy and she was essentially the leader of the house that she lived in with the dwarves and answered to NOBODY. Instead, they had to answer to her. The only times she was “helpless” was when she was chased out of her home (and if I remember correctly, she was about to give up and be helpless before deciding that she would actually get up and try to live on her own an make the best of the situation by herself) and when she was POISONED (unknowingly). Two things she COULDNT control. Any one of the princesses would be helpless in the same situation it’s not because she’s weak. And even through this,she still managed to stay positive and have a smile on her face. She is such a strong princess I better not see any of y’all disgracing this queen
Her moment of sass was when Grumpy wouldn’t show her his dirty hands and refused to speak to her, and she says “What’s wrong? Cat got your tongue?” She’s such an amazing character.
@@lovelycloudyskies Her cheeky nose-wrinkle at "Cat got your tongue?" always gives me a giggle 😄
"Let me see your hands." Girl was _serious._
In your face, Rachel Zegler!
Also the fact that she was literally a child (14). Forced out of her home as CHILD
How can she be strong and sassy when she does housework, doesn't fight, and doesn't show corporate leadership?
This made me realize about how the Disney renaissance was shaped by a man for whom a large part of his identity was rejected by society and he was unable to express it, which makes the Renaissance make sense for why there are so many stories about self discovery. But the older films was shaped by a man who had to work hard to keep his company afloat during extremely rough times, so those stories featuring hard work and resilience make sense.
Very well said!
What part of his identity I didn’t catch that?
I remember reading that Walt said to Cinderella's VA "You are my favorite heroine." and heard people talk about how the Fairy godmother represents that "miracle" that launch them to a success.
@@kaylee8130 He was a Gay man
Exactly
"Her warbling is childish" I mean she's 14 so a literal child
Fair enough
She is a Smol baby.
Also at the time it was literally the most iconic voice of all time, so iconic that the voice actress struggled to find work after Snow White’s release because she sounded too much like Snow White.
@@handsoaphandsoap No. That was a fake she used. She was blacklisted from Acting by Walt Disney himself. Because he did not want her image to tainted.
Fun fact: Walt Disneys favourite Non-english Snow White was Tatiana Angelini who was 14-15 at the time she did the voice for the Swedish 1938 dub. She was the only 14/15 year old that ever played Snow White. All the other languages had adult actresses!
As a woman, I have to argue: what is so wrong with wishing and dreaming about a prince that sweeps you off your feet and saves you from hardship? I’m not saying women need to be dependent on men to feel safe and happy, and women should be raised to be confident and brave on their own. But as a working, single woman, i always thought it would be sooo nice to meet a man who not only loves me, but will happily support and protect me when needed most. And I’ve known men who have said their own wives saved them in many ways . My two cents 😊
It's an instinctual want, don't be ashamed ❤
As a 30 year old, the mask drops. All that women my age talk about is how they want to meet a nice man and start a family. Friends, acquaintances, even strangers.
Let’s be honest, who *doesn’t* want a companion of some sort? People want friends or to form a meaningful connection with someone. It’s only human nature to not want to be alone.
I’m not at all surprised you’ve had men tell you their wives ‘saved’ them.
There have been numerous studies about how men benefit from marriage so much MORE than women☕️
@@Garcelle1987 , incorrect. There have been studies that show married men live five years longer than single men, likely because married men engage in less physically dangerous behaviors because they now have families to care for. Married women on average either live the same amount or one year less than single women, most likely because the only risky behavior most women regularly engage in is child birth, something married women tend to do more than single women. But, other studies have suggested that married men and women actually live 1 to 2 years longer than unmarried men and women. So which benefits more is debatable.
None of these studies actually measure *benefits* though, because a benefit like, "My children bring me greater happiness and meaning in life than chasing corporate greed," is hard to measure in a study. It depends entirely on when you talk to people and where they're at in their lives. Older married women report far less mental health problems, for example, while over half of single White women will be diagnosed with mental health problems.
She was an abused child with little agency. Of course she's only wishing for someone loving to take her away from her situation. From her appearance, she is probably taught not to express wants "greed" or it would be meet with a punishment. She doesn't deserve the shit she gets.
And her behaviour is quite accurate for that time...an abused chiled in the dark ages dont know why people want her to be tough.
I totally agree with you 100% And I wish people would talk about this more because there are a lot of people who actually wish for someone to take them away from their abusive life 🤗
A video giving Snow White the respect she deserves? Hell yes
Glad you liked it!
Indeed
hell no
@@sophia-gh4gf why?
About time right?
I guess, in a truly unique way, Snow White was the feminist icon people not only overlooks, but completely underestimated. Sure, she wishes for a prince, but like you said, “he’s not even on her mind for majority of the movie.” Snow White gets sh*t done, works hard and faces hardship with a smile and songs.
🙌 yes
Yes!
Ha! ….. this is a Depression Era movie…. And if you listen to music coming out of this time period …. Most songs are about yearning and hopeful for falling in love…. Dream a Little Dream of Me came out in this time period….. the Mamá Cass versión is a Cover….
I feel like Princess Tiana embodied this too.
@@alejandromolinac nothing bad about that XD
A person that respects Snow White and doesn't call her a weak female character?
HECK YEAH!
Thanks for watching!
@@therewillbefudd Thanks for the commentary!
Personally I would argue that the princesses like Snow White and Cinderella are the strongest. They face emotional and physical threats but respond with kindness and gentle bravery and that’s something that will always be important
Modern Disney shows what they really think of women.
@@hayleymarse2853 i dislike how nowdays only physical strenght matters and not mental one which both Cinderella and Snow white possessed
It's always pissed me off when people call snow white and cinderella weak. They're emotionally strong as iron, they won't break with any of the miserable circumstances they're thrown into. They come out of them still kind and not jaded or mean. So many could learn from them
Kindness is not a weakness, and hope does not make one fragile💫💕
@@lyramorales2020 amen therefore #treatpeoplewithkindness
Unlike some other princess...
Also they are quite literally abuse victims
@@lyramorales2020 trueeee
I never cared for Disney remakes.
Just wanted to say that I GREATLY appreciate this contextualization of Snow White. She's always been one of my favorites.
She is very special.
The only live action remakes that were good were 101 Dalmatians, Cinderella and the Jungle Book. The rest were all unnecessary cash grabs mixed with work garbage. Disney should've done a remake of Black Cauldron that actually followed all five books in the Chronicles of Prydain. But they only care about revisiting their formers successes now instead of innovating trying new things which is what Walt always did. To the end of his life Walt Disney was always pushing the technical envelope on what kind of story he could tell with animation and if he were alive today, he would ashamed and appalled by what his company has become.
I'd say the only good ones are cinderella and maleficent, though jungle book wasn't terrible (i've never seen 101 dalmatians so no comment on that) though it seems like another disney renaissance might be around the corner (or disney might close shop for good, who knows)
One thing I've long admired about Snow White is that she allows herself to cry, but then gets back up a minute later and starts dealing with the problem.
This is also why Cinderella is a good Princess too... She's a surprisingly realistic depiction of a woman who has been abused all her life, but with a specific positive edge to her character. She's afraid, she's upset and angry, she believes so much in the idea that she will never escape her circumstances that her wish isn't to escape but to instead just have at least one night out where she can be happy (she never mentions the prince being what she wants). Heck, people seem to forget that she gets assaulted by her step sisters as her step mother just stands there!
And yet despite her horrible situation she's still kind and hard working. When she's given a way out of her circumstances she goes for it, she does everything she can to escape. And sure it was to a prince but this is a fairy tale from a time period where a woman on her own would have no chance in society so honestly that would have been her best shot.
besides, the prince is a representation of leaving abusive relationships to find better ones! Many women abandon abusive parents and siblings and find joy and good love in good friends, lovers and work partners, on this case we have Cinderela find a husband and start a new family despite all her sorrows which should have made her fear trying new relationships
@@missgms7781 For real. My mother was verbally and physically abused by her family, her sisters particularly and on top of that she was starting to show signs of mental illness. Then she met my father, and he said "enough of that shit, you're coming with me and we'll be a family together". And they've been together ever since. Sometimes people really do find a better life with a lover, friends or just anyone that cares for them.
The criticisms thrown at Cinderella really seem to be blaming the victim.
And in Cinderella 3 she was so gooood
@@rats443 I kind of forgot what Cinderella 3 is about. Was it when Anastasia fell in love with the baker or Jack wanting to be useful? Or was it the time when Fairy Godmother's wand was stolen?
@@procrastinatingme953 it's when the Fairy Godmother's wand was stolen
The other two you just said before is from Cinderella 2
So I guess the simplest way to describe old princesses vs. new princesses is “immovable object vs. unstoppable force”
Good one!
No
Honestly, Snow White going through a traumatic event, such as an attempted murder, and then day dreaming about finding love is so realistic too. She's trying to distract herself and keep positive, and honestly, we all need that sometimes.
I think that's where many people lost the point. People also forget that she's a kind person by nature and wants to help others, which leads her into making a bad decision that nearly killed her. She's a good character.
And she’s singing to Depression Era people…. People who just came out of The Great War and are about to get into WW2…. So your assessment is correct
Also, she's 14. She would obviously be daydreaming about finding the boy of her dreams. Go into any middle school/high school and a vast majority of the girls will be talking about their crush with their friends, dating, or trying to get a crush to notice them.
Snow white does not get enough credit. It annoys me how people just base how good a film is on the story and how the representations and how they reflect today's society and not their own time period. Snow white has so much quality put into it like all of the classic disney films. People don't recognize the beauty of animation and film. And honestly without snow white there's a good chance animation would not be where it is today especially in terms of film. Because of how much of a risk the film was to make in terms of time and money. Especially going into a war era.
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching!
As someone from a marginalized group, we want a good representation in a good movie that reflects our struggles but it's really unfair to say that movies of the past aren't good because just because they're from the past. Gone with the Wind is both racist and sexist but it's still a classic and so is Snow White (minus the racist part).
@@adam.n-steve Thats not how I saw it as a child, I saw it as a movie that played a big part in my childhood. It was a cute story with a scary villian in it. And now when I watch it I just admire the animation and the years of effort that went into the movie. When the movie was ever praised it was never about the gender steryotypes and about her being 14, It was always about that it was in colour, it had character, it had music. People dont praise it for those things. I don't think it being shown is even a problem in todays society when literally everything else is extremely feminist. The odd movie where there is a steryotypical representation won't make all little girls want to marry a prince, I was personally nore about the Hannah Montannah lifestyle as a kid as much as I watched Disney classics. Films are more than a story its an art piece through cinematography through studying film I've realised that you should enjoy and respect films for the quality of mise on scene on screen and not meaning behind it because not everything is always made with the intentiom to convey meaning. Snow white was made to inspire people through its art and not the story. I know what people mean but I really dont think it would have an effect on anyone and push gender steryotypes beacsue of the fact people think she's boring and stereotypical compared to the more modern princesses. The film just needs to be praised again for the risks that it took to change film forever as today more and more animation are putting proffit above quality. Disney and pixar seem to be the only ones still taking risks and the competentition focus more on marketing like Illumination whos content is just a joke.
As opposed to characters ahead of their own time in regards to the setting they come from? Like Mulan or Tiana?
@@Itsant33 I still think those movies are quality but this movie was revolutionary and so inflential and such a big risk It truely changed film forever and thast why Snow White will always be the Queen of Disney
I'm watching this in light of Rachel Zegler absolutely disrespecting the original in order to promote the live action remake, and it's so shocking just how badly everyone behind it misses the point. This is a young girl who continued to stay optimistic and pure despite constant abuse, and that can be feminist too.
no, snow white is not feminist, let’s stop pretending you ever cared about that movie as an excuse to hate on rachel zegler. is her ideas of feminism outdated? yes absolutely. is it okay to be feminine and to fall in love? also yes.but snow white is not a real person. she is a fictional character made by men in 1937 who saw being feminine and falling in love as the ONLY option. i don’t know why people are acting like being a feminine woman is something radical and not literallly the status quo… snow white is a 14 year old who was kissed by a prince whilst she was unconcious, id say it’s pretty fair to critique it
@@mookchie it's critiquing the wrong things about the story that's the problem, i agree all these fairy tales could be updated on their flaws and rereleased in live action why not, but they always just ruin it
@@mookchie First of all, the "14 year old" Snow White wasn't confirmed anywhere, it's just a rumour without any factual basis, neither within productions notes of the Disney version or the fairytale itself. It is literally baseless.
Secondly, while critique for the 1937 is always valid, most of it is either already dated and in many ways obsolete or doesn't fit into the setting of a LAR. If Disney thinks Snow White is problematic today, just scrape it like Song of the South; if not, then changing the beloved features is asinine. The controversy of the last weeks just exemplified the structural problems with Disney's LARs. Their classics are timeless despite their "flaws" (thats an nearly universal trait for common fairytales - the popular ones often have less dated elements within them and are therefore more practical in latter eras), so updating ruins the complete setting.
@@mookchie What kind of a weirdo has a problem with the prince kissing Snow White? He didn't kiss her 'while unconscious', as if he thought 'should I ask for consent? Nah!' he kissed her because he believed she was dead and he was kissing her goodbye, which is a gesture people do for recently deceased loved ones _all the time_ - and it also completely innocent and appropriate. It's malicious to suggest it was 'a nonconsensual kiss' when that's not what happened _at all_
Ignore it. 9 times out of 10 the only reason they’re trashing on the original is because they can’t think of any other way to promote their shitty remake. Just scroll past her statement and go about your day. The only thing they can’t monetise is complete apathy towards their product.
Nothing beats the handwashing scene to motivate toddlers to clean themselves up before dinner!
True!
Haha, that's a great point!
Now I want to see a Disney movie where a free-spirited, modern day princess and a more traditional princess have to work together and see through each other’s differences to defeat the villain.
Modern: Drop kicks the villain.
Old: Defeats the villain in discussion.
@@ggt47
Villian: hahaha I'm going to destroy your kingdom!
Old Princess: Well, actually... *tells them why they shouldn't be evil*
Villian: Wow thanks i've never thought about it like that i'll leave your kindgom alone th-
New Princess: YEET *drop kicks them off a cliff*
Old Princess: God fucking dammit.
@@glittersguts Yes. Now nowadays Morden"empowering" are too aggressive and too into fighting.
@@glittersguts Old princesses. Negotiation, philosophy, understanding your perspective (you surprisingly what a real princess should do).
New Princess:GuRl pOwEr. *Kicks the villian down the well*
@@ggt47 I mean, I love a princess who can kick ass, like Mulan for example. But the shift towards powder keg princesses who destroy everything in their path is ehhh.
17:55 I’d like to add onto the forest scene a little, because it has another layer of storytelling that nobody seems to talk about:
At the start of the scene, the 13 year old princess Snow White has just had a knife pulled on her by someone she (assumingely) trusted, who then proceeded to tell her that her own *stepmother* ordered him to kill her out of jealousy, and she must run away into the woods to hide. Despite being forced to live as a scullery maid, Snow White is still a princess who’s rarely-ever been outside the palace walls, and *never* on her own. Now she’s lost, in the woods, alone, with no idea where to go or what to do.
Keeping this in mind, Snow White doesn’t start seeing the creepy imagery until *after* she’s been spooked twice by normal things (first by an owl, then by a swarm of bats), only then does she see the twigs as fingers grabbing her skirt, and everything else becomes distorted and terrifying. This means that all that spooky imagery was just a product of Snow White’s trauma distorting her perception of reality.
Yes! She just found out she had a hit on her. For all she knows there really are assassins in the woods
There's literally a bonus feature on the Blu-ray DVD. It's called "In Walt's Words. The Huntsman" which basically covers the queen ordering the henchman to kill her all the way through Snow White's flight through the forest. Look that up
“It ignores the fact that most women in history didn’t have the option to control their own destinies. It implies that unless you singlehandedly push your entire gender forward, you don’t deserve to have your story told. But often the best indicator of strength isn’t whether you reject your circumstances, but how you choose to live with them.” THIS OH MY GOSH. Thank you for wording this idea so incredibly well. I’ve been saying recently that forcing historical women to be strong by our standards removes their agency and how they used it at the time. It may not have been ideal and needed to be changed as history moved forward, but it’s also the world they had to maneuver through.
Also, I died at your Star Wars gag.
I really appreciate you pointing out the character motivations and the different purpose and goals of this story to other fairytales that often get overlooked, and contextualizing it with the time. This was so incredibly well done.
I’ve got my snack for the next 57 videos let’s gooooooo!
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you liked it!
Is she really taking the reigns by just settling with who saved her even though they never really got to know each other prior and she is both targeted and an object of love based on her looks?
@@Itsant33 to be fair, it was her dream, it’s not like she felt she was settling for less. The story avoids answering these realistic questions because it wants her to have a happy ending, so the movie ends, assuming that these issues just have no place in a fairytale setting and Snow gets her happy ending.
100% agree! Had the same thoughts when I got to those lines too
@@yumi9626 her dream was to get hitched with a man that has money and prestige?
To be honest, I got a bit teary eyed towards the end, where Snow White's perseverance was rewarded, and realising how universal her story is, especially during these time
Thanks for watching!
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@@mythn8596 just type in snow white genderbend and you'll find it
She grew up with her own mother figure hating her, making her clean, was almost KILLED… but she got up, found her own place to stay, and was extremely responsible and positive even through everything she went through. She faced so much and still got back up and had hope. Stan Snow White 💃
I’m not huge into Disney let alone the “Disney Princess” marketing line, but I’ve always been really annoyed by the modern day social criticisms levied against Snow White (and Cinderella). Like her happy ending somehow invalidates her life struggles or character strengths. I’m really glad I stumbled upon this video-liked and subscribed!
I agree those 2 along with Sleeping Beauty/Aurora are always getting flamed by modern audiences for no reason.
@@WinterWonder99 Yeah, probably because she's so underdeveloped :(
I'm particularly tired of seeing people praise the "you can't marry a man you just met" line from Frozen, because literally Anna is the only princess to do attempt that. Because none of Walt's Three got engaged in the movie. We do see Cinderella's marriage, but it probably took some time to plan that wedding.
@@ShayLaLaLooHoo Yeah that line is annoying. Yes, it is good to take the time to know someone before you marry them, but Anna is the only time we see a clear example of doing that.
And Aurora.
I really like that you talked about the context of when Snow White was made. My grandparents were about ten when this movie came out (but they were very poor and probably never saw it). My grandpa fought in the American army during World War II while my grandmom was under Nazi occupation in Italy. We can make fun of the simplicity by today's standards, but this movie was something to lift people's spirits during a dark time. I've heard a lot of vague stories about what they went through and I can tell why they never go into detail. They're just awful memories.
And this is off topic, but I love the older Disney movies because I like love stories. Even if they're simple. I REALLY miss the princes. Especially the Beast. He's always been my favorite Disney character. 😊
Thank you for your story! I hope I did the film justice.
I pray for your grandparents and I’m glad they were able to live through it to be able to have children leading to a wonderful grandchild which is you❤️❤️
Thank you for sharing, you really made a point.
I'm Italian, all my grandparents went through horrible times. One of my grandads (1923) was kept prisoner by nazis and eventually managed to escape, walking through 2 or 3 different nations, the other one (1932) suffered hunger with his family, being the older of 5 children. Same for his wife, my granny (1935). My other granny (1930) is the only one who doesn't have such awful memories just because she was among the children who were sent off by trains to escape from the upcoming war and hide in the countryside. She still had to look after his younger brothers at the age of 7, after her older sister died at something like 10, and she also wasn't allowed to read books, because they would keep her away from work.
How do people nowadays think that a generation like that could have the energy to think about self-identity, finding your way, or other "first world problems". Snow-white was the perfect movie and character to keep them going during those hard times.
Btw, my granny (the one who escaped as a child), used to read me classic fairytales all the time, so "old fashioned" Disney movies remind me of those illustrated fairytale books.
We also used to watch Anastasia together (yeah, not Disney, I know), and the Once upon a December tune still moves her to tears 💙
@@dianapohe I'm so sorry to hear they had to go through all that. My grandmother was lucky to not have anything bad happen DIRECTLY to her, but I know she saw a lot of death. She was raised on Isola di Liri (a really pretty mountain town) and said that the village men who wouldn't carry up supplies for the Nazis would be shot not question. That's how disposable life was. But she tries to tell me about the fun times she had more. Like how her sister would climb trees to get figs for breakfast and my grandmom was too scared. Or how her grandpa would keep interrupting the rosary to ask if his favorite donkey was locked up safe so his wife would just pray in an angry voice 😆 She loved stuff like that.
And that's why I can't get mad at that generation for not caring about identity problems either. They were busy enough just trying to survive. Sometimes it makes me cringe that I was only less than a hundred years off from living like that myself.
@@scribblemeeps Aw, thank you! 😊 They're definetly much happier now. My grandpa is even teaching me how to drive! He taught everyone in the family. His wife included lol
“[Agency as a requirement] ignores the fact that most women in history didn’t have the option to control their own destinies, and implies that unless you single-handedly push your entire gender forward you don’t deserve to have your story told.” YES YES YES! This line KILLED IT. Thank you so much for this video.
Honestly Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora do not get enough credit! I literally wrote a paper on this for my Women's studies class and I will defend these three princesses forever! Modern audiences are quick to dismiss extremely feminine characters as "weak" in favor of "strong" characters. I'm by no means saying that we don't need more "strong" characters, but I don't see why we need to rip apart others who don't fit into today's strong mold. Modern society sees strong characters as possessing traits such as physical strength, intelligence, bravery, and reliability.
I loved Cinderella growing up, but because she was seen as a "weak" character in the 2000s, I was getting made fun of. Because I liked Cinderella, I must be weak by extension. The tearing down of these princesses mirrors the bigger issues of women tearing each other down and the devaluing of traits that have been typically seen as feminine.
Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora teach anyone important lessons about emotional strength, optimism, and kindness. Not only are these important lessons, but they should be on par with the lessons that Mulan, Tiana, and Moana teach. I love all Disney Princesses. They all have admirable traits. It's all-important.
Now, I'm not saying that you have to like all the Disney Princess. Because you don't and that's your preference. As long as you solely don't hate Aurora, Snow White, and Cinderella for displaying traditional 'weak' feminine traits. Or for their lack of traditional 'strong' masculine traits. After all, I love Cinderella, but I also love Belle and Tiana.
Feminity is not weak or bad, and Masculinity isn't either.
In life, there are different types of intelligence, and just like different types of intelligence, there are different types of strengths in life.
Kindness and optimism are just as important as bravery and leadership. I wish that more modern movies showcased this. I wished that more modern audiences recognized this.
I love this video so much!
I just think there are so many better movies and princesses that teach lessons on kindness. The reason why I am not a fan of Aurora is because of how boring of a character she is. She does absolutely nothing and sleeps throughout the whole film. I do kind of agree with you on Cinderella, because of what she went through and her positive attitude.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 she literally got pricked on the spinning wheel because she was entranced by maleficent it was not her decision to sleep through it all.
@@angelita2213 Maybe not, but it doesn’t take away the fact that she was barely even a character in the film.
Aurora literally had like no screen time in her own movie but that movie was also made in a rush with less directing and was already on the shelf but they needed to put out a movie so it wasn't that developed in the end
@@captainhowlerwilson508 I disagree. After 16 years of solid hard work and doing her best. She gets tired and takes a nap. And somehow she is such a baddie that even while she's asleep she somehow manifests a better world when she wakes up than the one that existed when she went to sleep.
Just kidding. Actually, the way I always saw it was that the sleeping beauty movie was actually about the prince. You know, the only character that does anything in the entire movie. Just like jasmine is a princess but her movie is about Aladdin, sleeping beauty is a princess but the movie was about Philip. Sleeping beauty had just about as much character development and personality as jasmine. The movie was only called sleeping beauty and not prince philip, because that's the fairytale the story was based on
Our generation severely undervalues feminine strengths in general, and unfortunately this blindness is behind these criticisms of snow white and cinderella. These women could have easily been angry and bitter and vengeful, but their spirit has such strength of endurance, grace and patience... In my opinion this ability to embody love in trying circumstances is the ultimate strength. Anyone can beat up the bad guy, so few can love.
@@bubblegum999 I love this comment
Love this!
Yes!
so well put!
Yes. Im even noticing people saying strong female leads should not have love interests, implying they're not as strong as single women. Its getting to the point that people are expecting female leads to be completely stoic, or just lack any emotion except fierce anger. And while i understand there may be a lack of independent female characters, theres absolutely nothing inherently wrong or weak when women fall in love.
I don't know why, but the realization that Snow white was brave and hardworking in the face of a horrible situation really struck a cord with me. I can relate to that on a deep level right about now.
You should do another one on Cinderella.
She is literally an abused child and everyone just stares at her and goes “yeaa but like why didn’t you save yourself”
I hate those people, and the message they are explicitly giving anyone that has suffered abuse by saying something that hateful. Cinderella literally fights tooth and nail to get her chance of escape when it presents itself. Until then she was smart and worked within the system she was trapped in. She was a freakin SURVIVOR which totally is a form of bad assery!
@@cincocats320 I completely agree. It’s awful and a form of victim blaming. I don’t care if she’s a fictional character, if someone acts this way it will influence the way they treat actual survivors. It’s disgusting
I remember someone on UA-cam who used that argument a while ago. Even though when almost EVERYONE in the replies was explaining to that dumbass why Cinderella couldn't just defy her stepfamily and escape to who knows where, he was still all "yEaH bUt wHy CoUldn'T sHe juSt SaVe hErSeLf aNd eScApE"
@@elirchi9214 you're talking about "The Fangirl" right?
@@ValenArtsAnimation sorry, it was a while ago, like a year, so i forgot the dude's name. Do you remember what video it was from??
The people who say that Snow White has no agency have no idea what it's like to have an abusive parents. The fact that she remains as good and positive after years of brutal abuse is amazing. She's also supposed to be a child. The no agency arguments just don't hold up.
Fr, she's the age of an 8th grader/High School Freshman and she was beyond her years.
You have no idea what those people been through don't be a know it all. I grew up abused since I was 3 to the age of 16 and yet I cannot stand snow white. I loved Ariel because I could relate to her wanting to escape to another world beyond her own and her feeling like she was different and not understood by her family. Her tenacity and strong will empowered me to one day escape and start a life of my own as soon as I could and not let anyone stop me. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't give you a right to make baseless claims about someone else's life experiences.
@@millennialodyssey5956 Snow White was still kind despite being horribly abused. She could’ve become bitter, but she didnt
@@millennialodyssey5956Well not everybody can relate to the notion of not letting abuse make you bitter.
@@Katya_Lastochkamaybe if you can’t, you need to put in the work so you can. Bitterness is NOT good. Snow White is choosing kindness and goodness and beauty despite her circumstances, and so should we all! Snow White isn’t an attempt to relate to the audience; it’s an attempt to inspire the audience to choose to be good and kind. Not everything has to be relatable.
I've never thought Snow, Cindy and Aurora were weak or bad role models. Bro got me over here feeling all emotional and shit.
Really terrific analysis! It always bothered me whenever people claim Snow White never did anything to help herself in her situation. The first time the Queen tried to have her killed through the Huntsman, she didn't just stand around and wait for someone to rescue her. She immediately fled from the danger and went looking for a place where her would-be killer couldn't find her. And all the while, she remained hopeful and optimistic that she'll live a normal life without fear again someday. If that's not strength, I don't know what is.
Completely agree, thanks for watching!
I love that we finally have the older Disney Princesses like Snow White finally being given the praise they deserve 😊
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
They deserve none
@@Itsant33 fake news
Exactly! It's honestly very sad how so underappreciated she is, ESPECIALLY by Disney themselves these days... :( She was always my favorite princess, along with Cinderella, Aurora, and Tinkerbell. ^^)
@@princesspeachfan100 Oh yes! The beautiful classics that started the line of Disney Princesses, even Tinkerbell =D I still love them!
Extra emphasis on the "work hard." She was a servant/slave in her own home. She had the skills she learned growing up as a house servant. She would have never learned how to pick up a sword as a house servant. Her world was pulled out from under her and she lost everything she knew and got back up. I am an adult who struggled through a rough bought of anxiety and depression. I had rent and bills to pay so I couldn't just wallow in my self pity and misery. I had to go to work and carry on. Just like Snow White did.
You're correct and I agree. Hope you're doing okay now. Sending you lots of healing ❤️
When I was younger I used to be really critical of old disney princesses because I just assumed that their stories implied girls needed a prince to be happy or to save them. But the thing is, snow didn't really need a prince. I mean, she needed some sort of love magic to wake her up from a curse, but she was doin' just fine on her own up until that XD
Ultimately it's not that she's just sitting around waiting for a man, it's more like "jee i wish I could marry a prince. Oh well time to get back to work :)"
I swear the adults that push that narrative never watched the movies with their brains turned on. They are simple narratives full of physical acting that gives them subtext and color.
This video is brilliant.
@@bilalhussein9730 Leave it to cultural marxists to lie about the past and degrade the culture. They knew better, they just chose to lie, create a fake controversy and grift and profit from the chaos.
My experience is rather different lol, maybe it's because I've never heard of the 'damsel in distress and in need of a prince trope', I really was more focused on Snow White's journey and even had a crush on the dwarves. The prince didn't really stuck out to me, I was just relieved that there's someone able to save her from a situation she completely doesn't have the upper hand on, which is you know, death. I just saw it as someone helping someone through the means of fantasy and lifting a curse, not a prince saving his princess from demise.
Do people forget she’s a 13 year old girl? A teenager doesn’t always know what they truly want? I mean can we blame her for thinking about boys when she’s a little princess who doesn’t have the guidance of her parents. It comes to a point where she just wants to get a new life because her she’s being treated the opposite. For most girls to say she wants her prince is somewhat absurd but she is a princess. She identified her worth not by what her step mom thinks of her, but by the way she is. Her father passed away at such a young age I think what she wants the most is a man in her life to guide and support her and she’s at the age where she also starts to think about romance. However, she finds this in the dwarfs and would of most likely settled with them and forgotten taht she even wanted a prince.
Fourteen but yes.
I agree, well said!
Coming from someone who wants to pursue writing or directing... stories don't always need to be thought-provoking and deep. And even if they are, it doesn't have to be loud about it. I love stories of self-discovery and breaking boundaries (I'm a theater kid for crying out loud), but Snow White is still an amazing film, especially for its time. We love action movies, even if they lack character, because it's exciting to watch a good car chase. We love Mamma Mia, not for its stable plot, but for its fun songs. So why can't we love Snow White, an animated movie that is far from perfect, but has beautiful art and an optimistic outlook?
It's always bothered me when people make fun of the original Disney princesses, Cinderella and snow White especially. They are kind, gentle, resilient characters, which are traditionally female characteristics and I believe rejecting them as weak is also a form of sexism.
Exactly! As a kid I always loved how sweet Cinderella was, and as I grew older I started seeing all this "feminism" going around saying that "strong" women are... not so sweet, and seem to bear more traditionally masculine traits, and that even women scoff at the gentle, dainty traits of traditional femininity, which in a more frank explanation ; they're literally marketing for women to have masculine traits and ditch traditional female traits, like sis why you going back to square one? 😂😂😂
@@Aster-vs8xg I feel like this type of "women must be strong and masculine" feminism is very millennial, since for 30+ women, growing up the only validation they got as women was when they acted like men. These days though I'm very pleasantly surprised by younger girls' view on feminism, since they're taking back traditionally feminine aspects and empowering them. You can see that in the rise of the 2000's pink girly aesthetic, lolita fashion and their love for dresses and vintage clothing, but in personality too as I see way more girls proud to be girly. I'm one of them and my favorite princess is Cinderella! I'm a feminist and I defend her with my life
Absolutely. Feminism is supposed to be about choice. If ur happiness is genuinely cooking, cleaning and taking care of others, finding true love and having children, then that is absolutely fine and equally important to ruling, leadership and creating change, for example. Plus if you look closely, these princesses do present tougher qualities and leadership potential at times, it's just very lightly touched on, ie. Sleeping beauty agreeing to being a princess despite her initial breakdown (which is understandable).
I love that you mention Snow White and Grumpy having the real emotional arc. Honestly, Grumpy is my favorite character in the movie because of how much he goes from being gruff and unimpressed by Snow to feeling friendship, care, and ultimately being devastated by her death. It never feels rushed either, it feels like he just grew to like her. Snow White is a sweet character too, I like how kind she is to everyone she meets and how good she is with animals. That scene with the baby bird really pulls at the heartstrings when you take into account that he mama and papa are gone from her life and she still carries through and thinks of others.
Indeed! Thanks for watching!
True. People who blow off the worth of Snow White miss the point.
I immediately went back to this video essay after seeing the news of the live-action Snow White remake....
Same!
Snow White didn't have an identity crisis, she knew exactly what and how she was, and kept her spirits high no matter what. She was really really tough.
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Exactly
i’ve watched this all the way through twice already!! this is a great take on a classic film, i’m ready for the 57 other videos 😂
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Thank you so much! I'm really glad you liked it!
I’m just so impressed with this analysis. I watched it first a year or so ago and it made me develop such a love and appreciation for Snow White. Rewatching it now cuz I’m so sad at how the current Disney crew is badmouthing the original in their press for the remake (which is actually bizarre and why are they making it then). They should all have been required to watch your video and maybe they’d have a different attitude!
I also think Snow is underappreciated for her goodness. She loses her parents, has her title and wealth stripped from her, is treated like a servant and then the only family she has, the person who should love her the most tries to kill her and she ends up lost and alone in a forest with nothing. I don't know a single person who wouldn't be overcome with hate, anger, bitterness and resentment. But she chooses to forgive, stay kind and not let hate take root in her heart. She also never gives up hope for love and a better future despite the facts that she's lost, and no one knows where she is. That to me makes her the strongest person of all time.
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The algorithm just blessed me, by leading me here
@@bluewall9894 Aww shucks, thanks!
As of yesterday it is! Thanks for watching!
Got this video on my recomended page so glad I watched it ! Really made me appreciate Snow White so much more 😭
Well you're wish has come true
Someone send this to Rachel Zegler! This is perfect.
I'm glad this popped up in my recommendations, I'm glad lots of folks still understand Disney Snow White's character, I love modern Disney Princesses just as well, but I'm happy in modern times folks still understand Snow and her film particularly
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
Same!
love love old disney princesses!!
I think every Disney Princess is great in her own way. Whenever a fighter or a lover, they always teach kids to believe In themselves or in their dream, to trust your friends, to love (your friends, your family, your prince). It’s all good messages.
Snow White is super cute in my opinion and she bakes beautiful pies. Respect.
Haha, agreed. Thanks for watching!
The pie scene was a favorite of mine. The little birds making prints with their feet was just so cute! And I've always been curious about gooseberry ever since. I have yet to try it though aha
@@justanothercutefreak It’s very common to grow in gardens in Russian villages. It can be SUPER sour when it’s green, but when it’s gets red in color and ripe it’s very very sweet. It’s not very hard to grow and easy to maintain. Highly recommend if you or your friends have a garden.
Agreed! All Disney Princess rules!
Ok i don't think Grumpy was ever intended as a romantic idea lol i think its just she wants her new family to love her and accept her and he is a her most distant most rejecting new guardian so she works extra hard to get his acceptance.
It could work like that, though I'm just glad he pointed it out since either way it's so cute that she works extra hard to get on Grumpy's good side
Grumpy is also WAY older than the Prince, so I don’t think Snow White was planning on marrying him
I loved how Grumpy was the one who was the most against Snow staying in their cottage with them but when the animals were warning the dwarves that she was in danger he was the first to give chase and always stayed ahead of the group.
Fr. That was a reach
I think both Snow White and Cinderella are good examples of how emotional strength can make a strong person too. Both were abused by their 'families' but kept pushing through and were open & kind to those around them despite how difficult and nightmarish everything got- something that is really underestimated. When Elsa got scared she ran away and had to be dragged back in chains yet she's considered a stronger character because she's physically powerful and there's just more time focussed on emphasising her struggles. While the films of SW and Cinderella don't really hold up to today's social standards, the core of their personalities and resilience are still somethings to admire.
I agree, thanks for watching!
People keep missing that Elsa is supposed to be a screwup who makes the wrong decisions, and Anna is supposed to be the one in the right in the end.
I’ve never had anything against Snow White but wow this video completely changed how I saw the movie! Especially liked how you explained that themes in film reflect the times they’re made in. I’m shocked you don’t have more subscribers, if you keep making videos like this you’ll grow for sure!
Same
Thanks so much! Glad you liked it!
@@alexandratwoface6422 Thanks!
Same, it was really nice to hear such a deep analysis of it
Also people seem to forget that she thought the dwarfs were orphan children who didn't have a mom to clean for them. That's why she started cleaning in the first place.
Snow White and Sleeping Beauty are my favorite Disney princess movies. Similar to the incredible points made in this video, Sleeping Beauty has always felt like a survival tale to me. A young girl overcoming a life of deception but still finding the ability to trust and love those who show *her* respect and honesty. She is powerless in the movie, the arc revolves around her finding what she wants for herself despite her agency being taken away from her. The dynamic between Prince Phillip and Aurora is also the most empowering to me of all Disney princess romances. She doesn’t have to jump through hoops and climb mountains for him to respect and care for her, he just... does. He respects her as a human being, with human value, without her having to prove she’s worthy of it. Women shouldn’t have to do twice as much to prove that they have intrinsic human value. Maybe it’s idealistic, but it’s wonderful to see her prince treating her with so much worth. Sleeping beauty is idealistic. It’s a story of two lovers burdened by the mistakes, politics, and ego of their forebears finding love, trust, and respect in each other. Overcoming the things that may make them jaded and trapped in a world that does not support their free agency.
Having a partner that respects you, will fight for you, will stand by your side, etc. is not a negative or weak thing to strive for or achieve. That’s a powerful and lovely thing to have in life. Remember, Aurora hasn’t ever been allowed to want anything or know anybody. Falling in love with Prince Phillip is her finding her ability to want things for herself through the kindness of knowing somebody else
I love this analysis and it is so true! Not to mention she had found her whole identity is a lie. Her world had been shattered and she was thrown into a terrible curse she had no power over. She had no way to change her situation and he still loved her regardless.
I think that's a good point that these princesses don't necessarily want a prince or fancy lifestyle, they want real love, and that's a beautiful thing, though I do think it's good to aspire to other things as well, which these girls do, it's just perhaps not always so obvious.
Something I've noticed with the more classic disney princesses as well is their stories feature true love saving or helping them, which to me means it's a very sacred form of love approved of and organised by heaven or something like that, so it's very special. The princes in these stories go to huge extremes to save or help them I.e. spending weeks, months or maybe even years trying to find them, scouring the country and going up against dragons, etc. If that isn't love (as well as extreme determination and bravery), I don't know what is and like you say, they are very romantic and respectful. It's a good thing not only to aspire to be with someone like that but to also try and be that way yourself.
I can't warm up to Aurora because she spends so little of the movie awake, although I do like Mary Costa's vocals. A better case could be made for Cinderella.
That's not to say Sleeping Beauty doesn't have some active heroines, though. Those three good fairies are badasses.
"There's no use in grumbling when raindrops come tumbling. Remember *you're* the one that can fill the world with sunshine"
Godspeed, Snow White!
I also think it’s important to think about the context of the original story, which was told a long time before it was ever written down. The movie stayed pretty close to it.
The stories back then were often about someone who is weaker in society. Mostly children, young woman and the poor, being abused by someone with power. Often a family member or someone rich and powerful like a king/queen.
But in the end the victim wins, often through pure kindness and innocence because that’s how the world should be, but wasn’t.
Snow white was a 14 year old girl abused by her evil queen-stepmother and forced to dress in rags and be a servant, and the prince symbolized her freedom. She wished to be saved by love.
She was described as the ideal of innocence, beauty and kindness. She stayed kind even though her stepmother tried to have her killed and her heart (see the symbolism?) cut out.
She almost died because she helped an old sick lady, believing the best in a stranger even though she had been warned not to trust anyone. So kindness was also a weakness of hers.
But then she was woken up from death thanks to love and she was rewarded for her innocence and her goodness.
(Love the video, love snow white. She is stronger than people give her credit for. Liked and subscribed!)
Thanks so much! That's a great summary!
This video aged like a fine glass of wine.
Snow White deserves so much more praise than she gets. People who mock and pick on characters like Snow White and Cinderella so often miss the point of their stories, and how they can empower people who feel like they are in a hopeless situation.
And I'm honestly surprised that you don't have more views/subscribers. This is a thorough and well-executed video, and the audio and editing look and feel professional quality. I hope you get the attention you deserve for this!
And I never thought about Grumpy's character that way. It's an interesting take, and I like it!
Thanks!!! I'm hoping to make more, so that's very encouraging to hear!
I think it takes a lot of internal strength to survive the sorts of childhoods and lives they lived while maintaining their ability to love, trust, show kindness, hope, etc. Idk what kind of agency people expect a young girl enslaved by a literal witch of a stepmother to have, honestly. Kids struggle every day under abusive parents (without magical powers) and you’d have to be pretty heartless to look at one and accuse them of not having enough agency to free themselves from their circumstances.
@@therewillbefudd Since I was last here, the views/comments/likes on this video have raised dramatically, and the algorithm's bringing people in. Congrats!
@@Rose-yt5hi Well put!
@@ShayLaLaLooHoo Thanks! A very sudden but welcome surprise!
Incredible analysis. Thank you for actually trying to understand the movie instead of passing it off as "damsel in distress". I wish you did more analyses on more misunderstood movies.
Thanks so much! I definitely intend to!
@@therewillbefudd Jeniffer's Body is one of the movies that come to my mind when I hear the word "misunderstood movie". Would love to see a video by you on it!
I have never thought Snow Whites voice was annoying. Snow White has always been one of my favorites because if her innocence, purity and care for other people and animals.
It's funny how Snow White was mostly show not tell, the most important aspect of any movie, but most movies nowadays are full of monologues of what a character needs to do and what's going on and how they're feeling instead of showing us and letting us discern for ourselves
She is my favorite princess because she is so kind to everyone. Even when she finds out the Queen is trying to kill her, you never hear one bad word about her come out of Snow White's mouth. She works so hard and makes pies, gives kisses, and dreams.
How poetic that I'm getting this recommended now.
I have a ton of respect for this film. The transition from 3 years before Snow White to seeing the film is like two different studios.
Indeed! Thanks for watching!
This was an incredible analysis! It's really disappointing to see a lot of people hating on the old Disney princesses when they don't understand the point of the stories.
I think my least favorites are the, "Snow White/Cinderella/Arora never did anything," "Ariel risked everything for a man," "Belle got Stockholm Syndrome," comments. I must fight the urge to magic a 2-hour PowerPoint into existence to show them why they are mistaken. I've always loved old Disney movies. Snow White was my favorite princess! I don't care if someone else dislikes things, that's their life. I just don't like when they misrepresent the thing they don't like. I don't like gore, but I'm not going to say 's message was that redemption isn't possible and if you do anything wrong you and your loved ones deserve to die a horrible death. This was a bit of a rant so I'll stop before it gets any longer.
@Nonaya Bidness Lindsey Ellis has a fascinating video on this exact topic! Short answer, no, she definitely doesn't.
@Nonaya Bidness You know, I already told you that it was a video by well-known video essayist Lindsey Ellis, but since you didn't want to look it up yourself: ua-cam.com/video/syYCO0QVkZo/v-deo.html
Thanks so much! Glad you liked it!
@@samseahorse Haha, an excellent rant indeed!
Snow White has such a kind and gentle personality that it’s utterly amazing she remains so wholesome and happy in spite of her troubled upbringing. 🥺
She’s the fairest of them all for reason. ❤️
Honestly, a 14 year old girl wishing for a true love, having a high pitched voice, acting cheery and a bit childish, being gulible, and being a maid in payment of a possibly permanent home.? Why wouldn't anyone like her? She's a child that is surprisingly mature! Anyone who says they hate Snow White either don't know her actual character, or doesn't like Disney overall. The second one is understandable, but the first one is just plain confusing to me.
I have NEVER had a problem with Snow White, she was a young child in a terrible condition that did her best to remain positive and kind. Her ending was questionable by today's standards but they were all the rage during her time. Cinderella remains my favorite Disney princess to this day and that will never change. As a child, I admired her for being an incredible person despite how cruel that world had been to her. None of that will ever change no matter how much they get criticized. The two young girls were incredible people no matter what anyone thinks.
Same I also admire Cinderella and her and Ariel were my two favorite princesses because of how relatable they were and how amazing they are as role models. Elsa as a princess is very bland to me. Cinderella and Ariel are just better princesses than Elsa because we get to spend time seeing what they want and who they are as a person. Elsa isn’t a great character and doesn’t do anything to make up for the fact that she was a horrible sister to Anna and just abandons her even further. Why does Elsa get praised while the first four Disney Princesses get hated on. Without Snow White Cinderella and Ariel Frozen wouldn’t exist. Snow White was the first animated movie Cinderella helped Disney stay afloat and Ariel rebirths Disney. Elsa isn’t on the level of Snow White Cinderella and Ariel she is far from it. Elsa is bland while Cinderella and Ariel have the personality Elsa wish she had. Cinderella and Ariel saved themselves and wanted something for themselves. Ariel and Cinderella remained kind when they were dealing with people destroying something they cared about.
@@greatamazing9620 I 100% agree ...I just couldn't get on the Frozen train...the two female characters terribly annoyed me. They felt like characters more than they did people (if that makes sense). Like yeah Elsa had a secret she was keeping and lost her parents but she became scared and sheltered, to me she had no personality. Cinderella also lost her parents and was basically under the control of a tyrant who mistreated her for YEARS but remained hopeful and pleasant and never lashed out at anyone, she was mature and caring. Ariel was curious and full of life, she was fun and creative despite being controlled by her father and constantly looked over by sebastian (not that I see either of them as bad guys, ik they just wanted to protect her)...despite her almost tragic ending she didn't take it out on anyone, she simply tried her best. These princesses are iconic for a reason...Elsa is only relevant because society loves the "I don't need a man, I am independent!" trope but that should never be a character's personality. Elsa just was not enough for me...she was an awful person for the majority of her movie and it pissed me off
2 years today this video is even more relevant than it has ever been before. Thank you for seeing the future. Rachel Zeigler needs to take a look at this.
Snow White might not have inspired me to come out to my parents, but she definitely was the first one to make me realise I wasn't straight lmao.
Haha, nice.
I really love Disney's Snow White, I understand why more modern adaptions try to give her a more rebel look but honestly I prefer the innocent just trying to survive. She found a job, a place to stay, and didn't complain about having to work for anything. That is some true strength right there.
I also don't get why people call her stupid for not seeing through the Queen's disguise, the woman literally shape shifted and pretended to have a heart attack what Snow going to do? Shut the window and ignore her? (Heck she's smarter here than in the fairy tale where she fell for 3 assassination attempts in a row)
Brilliant video. I’ve never understood the passionate hate of Snow White, but I never knew how to defend her character properly. This video taught me a lot and made me appreciate this film on merits outside its technical and visual successes.
Snow White and Tiana are the hardest working Disney Princesses.
Respect to Snow for voluntarily taking on the management of the Dwarfs' cottage.
😍😭Smol Smool baby White.
"A carefully constructed super soldier" I love that. It's nice to see the film put back into its context though. Great video!
Thanks! Appreciate the comment!
The relationship between Grumpy and Snow White has been one of the highlights of the film for me. 💛 Thank you so much for describing it so beautifully and analyzing it. Chapter 7 is so amazingly titled.
My thoughts exactly. That's why I kinda hate Frozen outside of having a bit needed twist villain. There's not really a reason to make fun of the first three princesses.
Agreed, thanks for watching!
This raises an interesting question - maybe Frozen didn't need a traditional villain. It could have worked easily enough if they didn't shoehorn the 'Hans bad' arc in at the last bloody minute.
Also Elsa and Anna arent even Disney princesses because of how well Frozen did at the box office so it's its own franchise apart from the disney princesses also they star in thier own sequal now so they wouldn't be able to be Disney princesses if they wanted to. People always say its because they're queens and I'm just like nonyou dont have to be a princess to be a disney princess and if there's a queen of Disney that is definitely Snow White.
I actually really liked Frozen even if it was a bit stereotypical. Elsa was inspired by a type one diabetic and her battle is a very much a struggle against her abilities/lack of control over her body and accepting that as well as dealing with the mental anguish that comes along with that. She also has the same MBTI personality as me so I relate to her that way too. There are definitely things I would change about Frozen (Frozen 2 was much better IMO) but compared to other movies like Moana, I thought it was good
I actually hate that obnoxious twist with Hans suddenly being turning into a villain. In my eyes it only served to not have Anna face the consequences of her inconstancy and naïveté after kind of falling for Kristoff. It would have actually been a nice touch for Hans not to be a villain and just have a scene where Anna admits to having made a mistake due to her loneliness. Honestly I think Frozen is extremely overrated in regards to this modern period it was made, while Snow White remains a classic. People can laugh all they want about Snow White being naive, but given the time period, and this movie also being aimed at children, it upholds just fine.
“Her arms are still pretty rubbery.”
Her arms:
***wooooosh***
Just a little rubbery, I mean, who really needs bones?
Watching this during the Snow White remake backlash...
Anyone else?
Yup
Yup
I've always loved Snow White, just like how I loved Cinderella.
They gave me hope that someday something good will happen. May not be today, or tomorrow, or the next week, but it won't last forever. I just need to keep my chin up and keep going.
I'll sing a song to feel better, I'll dream and keep dreaming, and i'll draw for a bit and see where that takes me.
These two fictional characters have given me more hope than any adult could have ever given me in a life time.
So, thank you. I thank you for seeing the one thing no one else saw in Snow White. It feels so validating, cause I always felt so wrong for liking these girls because of what everyone else said about the old Disney princesses.
This video was amazing! I can't wait to see more from you!
Thank you so much! That's very moving, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feels that way!
i have always loved snow white and this video perfectly explains why. she doesn’t need to have this insane arc in order to be a good princess. she’s sweet and hardworking and that makes her someone we can root for and appreciate
Thanks, glad you liked it!
I came back to this video to include how this movie helped me through both the passing of my grandfather and my great-grandfather.
I watched this movie all the time as a little girl in my grandparent's house, where I would stay every weekend. I loved it, even there were some parts that scared me (particularly the scene where Snow White is running through the forest). I remember telling him about how sad it made me when Grumpy cries and I asked him, "Why did he cry? He didn't even like Snow White at first!" and he giggled at me.
My grandfather passed away in April of 2019, and I was very lost about it. He was very sick from a culmination of illnesses that had lasted years. Yet, even as he struggled to go up and down stairs by himself and I witnessed his body misshaping itself, he always remained a figure of strength to me. In my head, I had always imagined him being there for every big moment of my life - my wedding, my college graduation, my first child (his first grandchild), and many others. It upset me greatly that he wouldn't see any of those milestones. A couple of months ago, I was taking care of my grandmother (his wife, she has fallen very sick as well), and I stayed up late watching Snow White. Watching the movie so late at night brought me right back to being six years old at my grandparent's house, being taken care of by them. I was a hyper child, so they always fell asleep before I did. As I sat there, watching Snow White so late at night, I burst into tears from remembering what it felt like for my grandfather to be right next to me. But I learned a valuable lesson from it. As Snow White was being led to the golden castle in the sky, it reminded me that my grandfather was watching over me and that he was very kind and good to me as a child. I cried both from how it hurt that he wasn't there, but more because I learned to be glad that I had such a good and kind grandfather in the first place. They say that you shouldn't be sad that it's over, but to be happy that it happened. That's what I'm doing now. So thanks Snow White, for teaching me how to move on. I will never watch that movie again without crying. :')
May both of their souls be at peace. Sending all the healing and love your way. Stay strong you kind soul. You got this 🥺❤️
@@shreyakanojiya4744 Thank you for your love! Grieving is never easy, but I can confidently say I’m doing much better now. They were wonderful people, and healing is only getting easier the more I continue. I am going to graduate college this semester with honors, and I can feel them both being so proud of me. I am very excited for what lies ahead! :)
Bro I citied at this
I’m sorry for your losses
"snow withe is the epitome of american strength and resilience, she is a carefully crafted supersoldier"
*She* is the Captain America _b e f o r e_ Captain America
"But often times the best indicator of strength isn't whether you reject your circumstances but how you choose to live with them." Words to live by. That's brilliant!
I never understood why people said she didn’t have a personality, when I watched the movie I could easily understand it. To me she was sweet,gullible,optimistic,bubbly and caring. I never understood why people just said “Her personality is just cooking and cleaning!” because it was the opposite. Like she just seemed like she had a lot of personality to me. That’s just me though, just my opinion.
I feel like quite a bit of the problems people have with these films can be rooted in misogyny: valueing masculine traits over femenine traits.
A lot of people who criticize these movies seem to confuse what strength really is. It doesn't have to be actively fighting back through physical or more agressive manners, but can be just persevering.
Very true! If i had gone through what Cinderella or Snow White did I'd he bitter. I fought bitterness through almost my whole 20's over what i did struggle with! Going through abusive unfair hardships and maintaining kindness and positivity IS incredible emotional and mental strength.
Tenacity! It can be fighting inward strongly, or keeping it together while you wait for an opportunity to come your way.
I think having a story about a traumatized child learning to make the best out of her life by being resourceful while dreaming of marrying her prince is far better than a story about a prince where we only see a princess be rescued at the end.
We live in a time where nihilism is considered the norm. It plagues everything. We talk about realism all the time, and consider "good art" to be the closest to reality as possible. Snow White is about hope and dreams. It's an unrealistically positive answer to a dark desperate time, and that's why it's beautiful. I believe our nihilism is lowering the quality of our art. It's good to reflect our lives and experiences in media, but it doesn't mean stories with happily ever after endings, where the hero beats all odds and everyone is happy, are bad. If we believe hopes and dreams are stupid, we only keep building a dark, sad future.
It effects everything. 21st century Hollywood film is unbearable at times.
Underrated comment!
Thank you for this! I love Snow White and I dislike when people misrepresent her as a feminist's worst nightmare. People see the Golden Era princesses as weak because they don't have much agency. Their strength comes from them going through heck and high water and making it out the other side without losing their humanity. The Renaissance Era to today's movies focus more on the main characters having to fight to make their lives better. Both of these character types make a good story, but many people dismiss the former because it is less obvious. I loved the video and am looking forward to see more from you!
Thanks so much!
Another thing is they always say “they depend on a man to save them” or “they don’t need to get married to be happy” something like that but I mean they’re happy in the end are they not??
@@alloriavarner8304 Yep. The Golden Princesses (Snow, Cindy, and Aroura) get a lot of hate for their goal in their movies being, "marry someone." It kind of tells me that the people did not actually pay attention to the movies. Snow White's goal was to not die. Cinderella's goal was to be free of her abusive household for a night. Aroura's goal is... ok her goal is to find love but she only gets 15 minutes of screen time and kind of gets demoted to the McGuffin of the movie (I haven't watched the movie in a while please correct me if I remembered this wrong.) Thanks for responding to me!
@@samseahorse Lol I have my own opinion of Aurora & I guess all I should say about her is that she's a product of the stupidity that raised her plus, she only had like what? 14 lines in the whole movie? The movie is pretty, the music is wonderful, the storyline however is not.
@@alloriavarner8304 I agree the movie is gorgeous. I can't remember much of the music besides the duet but I like it. Aroura's character suffers from not given much development. I called her the McGuffin of her movie because she does not get much screen time to really define her character and is the center of everyone's attention. Maleficent is an excellent villain. Prince Phillip is given much more character than Florian or Charming. The parents actually got lines! I think with all of the other things going on in this movie Arora got left on the sidelines. I think she has potential and if they shifted the focus towards her slightly, I think she would have been a great character.
Despite the comments here, I think Anna might be a good example of a “Modern Classical Disney Princess”. Her want for romantic love isn’t really that important in terms of the film as a whole. She isn’t fighting against anything, she just wants her sister back. While she does suffer for her kindness and naïveté, for the kindness she shows towards her emotionally conflicted sister and the trust she puts in Hans, in the end her willingness to sacrifice for her sister is what saves the day, and she gets both the love of her sister back and a new love interest. While for Snow White the prince was the personification of the happily ever after, for Anna the love of her sister was the happily ever after she had been wanting for all this time. Her strength lies in her unwillingness to give up on her sister, to be optimistic no matter what the world might throw at her.
It seems to be an identity seeking movie, but it isn’t. In fact, Elsa is in the wrong for trying to be someone she isn’t because she thinks it’s the best for everyone. Elsa is the damsel in distress of Frozen, her own worst enemy, and _Anna_ is the hero. Not Elsa, Anna. It’s a bit of a subversion of both ideas of what a Disney Princess is.
I like your take. I’ve grown a bit tired of frozen (due to seeing it everywhere), but I’ve found an appreciation for what it has contributed by taking a step back recently. I think that there are still better ways that Disney could bridge the gap between the older princesses and the newer ones without removing the qualities that make them all special and worthwhile. I feel that Frozen tried too hard to push down the older Disney films in favor of trying to appeal to a more hip crowd.
Ooh boy this is great, I don't care what Racher Zegler says, Snow White was an awesome character!
Be brave, chin up, work hard, work together, wish for better times and better days will come.
For me movies often shaped who I was and am today. While women like Leia, Rey, Black Widow, Belle, Elsa, Tiana, and Rapunzel taught me to be strong and independent and make me realize my role isn't defined by society as a baby maker with no personality or interests and I can defend myself. But Snow white and even Cinderella have taught me to be not only to let myself be emotional and enjoy the girly side of my gender but they taught me to be emotionally strong. They taught me to be kind even if it's not returned nor is it deserved by the people who hurt me. Snow white taught me that kindness will eventually be repaid if you are kind and compassionate. She taught while it's okay to cry for being overwhelmed by the world but some times crying doesn't get you everything and hard work will get you there. It's why I work hard. And I'll admit for a while I thought the same thing about how Snow White is nothing but a demure and weak woman when really she's just as hard working and independent just she got a prince in the end as a reward. Do I agree with the dated values of Snow White? No but does that mean this movie isn't good or snow white isn't strong emotionally? No this movie is still great even after nearly 80 years😊
Agreed, thanks for watching!
@Elizabeth Bennett Nice take!
@Elizabeth Bennett
I agree on this take, Elsa (to me anyway) doesn't have enough characterization or personality to feel like she actually wants something out of life, it srsly just feels like she's bored of the castle and her duties but because she was animated so beautifully with a song number, it blurs that look of it, all we got is her gasping and looking at the window for her to feel *I was always so different, normal rules did not apply* like what normal rules? Wearing clothes? Jumping on ice everywhere? Letting her hair down? Not exactly given, it's not like people hated her in the second movie
(In fact, people didn't even hate her in the first one, they were just gasping at her power reveal and it was Weselton that ordered her capture and calls her a monster, she didn't even have to win the hearts of the people or anything, they were readily instantly accepting her in the ending)
The sisterly love also feels a bit dubious for me, it just seems Anna that wants to work in the relationship, you could excuse Elsa in the first film but in the second one, she doesn't think twice for Anna, not Anna's safety or emotions, she just wants Anna's presence when it's comfort time or something else, Anna wasn't even allowed to be angry at her by the film's pacing, it feels weirdly like Anna was being a pushover for her sister (This could just be me though)
Simply put, Elsa doesn't have enough emotional obstacles or any if anything, to even find herself, she has no interest, no true will, no initiative or dreams, she just apparently *wants to show herself* , which nobody was even against it in Arendelle
@Elizabeth Bennett I have to counterargue. Her arc was learning not to let her fear control her. She was supposed to be someone making bad decisions, who has misguided intentions but wants protects others the only way she knows how.
No, I will not count the second movie as canon, thank you very much.
@@alexandersmith4731 Dude. Her obstacles were pretty obvious. She was paranoid about herself and how she could hurt people, so she isolated herself. Let It Go was not the end goal, in fact it’s her making the wrong decision. Her only enemy was herself.
Just a thing: I remember reading that the washing hands scene was to actually educate children and people in general on self hygiene. After all, it links back to what you said at the beginning of the video: it was the 30s.
Oh, and "a minimalist fairytale rooted in gothic horror and German expressionism" is by far the best definition of this movie's style I've ever heard.
So, I'm waiting for the next 57 videos to come, I guess
I hope that the actress they have cast for show White gets to watch this and gets to appreciate her a little better
exactly