Comparing Original Gasmasks to Reproductions
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Comparing original German gasmasks to their reproduction counterparts and how they fare in comparison.
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As a gas mask guy its pretty tragic how little attention they get given how important they were. Not just in reenactment either but in film, video games, and other media.
Right, I really love ww1 gas masks and I'm trying to get my hands on one for months.
I really like the ww1 ones not only cause of the aspect, but anout the history beacuse I always think about who could have wore that gas mask
UPDATE: I FINALLY GOT A GM17!
And real life.
I think the reproduction gm17/18’s are made out of suede leather while the real ones are made from sheep skin because sheep panted and if they chose an animal that sweated there would be pores in the leather that the gas can seep through. I never really liked the repro gm17, I thought the dimensions and the colour was off.
I really enjoy your videos, especially the ones about gas masks because I think they are always portrayed wrong in media, even battlefield 1 uses British ww2 masks. Keep up the great work.
Camera quality looks better
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@@gavinsmith6516 fellow otto
Fantastic video, been curious on the quality of the GM17 repro for a while now and this did a great job of explaining it. From the video, it looks like it's a functional repro, but not a good repro. It certainly looks like the mask, and it'll do fine for reenactment, but it's really not as good as it could, or should be.
LOL hey
Thanks, never knew they switched materials and hairstyles mostly due to the threat of Mustard gas!
Lol if you show up in a trench in a M17 and Stahlhelm, holding a shovel, the person station in that trench would not have a very nice day.
I’ve done something similar in airsoft, scares the living daylights out of people lmao
I made my own custom gas mask from a cotton pillow I sewed together and used cotton webbing for the straps. I was going for that pre-gas mask period in ww1 with the urine cloth masks
I'll be frank, I've never cared for this things, but you make it so interesting, i love these things
Hey I just found your channel recently, and as a history-buff-in-training I'm really loving the content! It's both interesting and informative.
That being said, I'm currently planning to try put together my own Imperial German kit. I watched your video about the uniform and you listed some places to get good quality tunics, but I'm struggling to find a helmet for myself. I'm looking for a good quality M16/M17 Stahlhelm which ships internationally to South Africa (Where I am) that's also one or two sizes too big, as per your recommendation, but that's where the trouble comes in. I have quite a phat head, measuring about 61cm (Which is +-21 inches, I believe) in diameter, and most helmets' liners I've seen go up to about 60cm, so any recommendations for vendors for originals or repros would be much appreciated!
I know that it doesn't exactly pertain to the topic of this video, but I thought you'd be the right guy to ask, at least for now.
Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
For your stahlhelm you’ll want a size 68, which are hard to come by (it’s one of the more rare sizes when referring to originals.)
I’m not sure where to go to find anyone who’ll ship them to South Africa, but if you’re looking for a repro it shouldn’t be too difficult (nestof ships to the US, not sure why the wouldn’t be able to SA)
As for liners, one will pop up eventually, it’ll just take some time.
Good reference for stahlhelm sizes: www.reddickmilitaria.com/articles/german-helmet-sizes-and-liners.php
Some say the size 70 is for a 61 cm head, but those are extremely rare so I wouldn’t recommend using them at all.
@@Wolfof1918 Thanks a lot for the info! It'll really come in handy as someone who's still getting into the hobby, so I really appreciate it, and I'll be sure to keep my eyes peeled.
I think I'll try do what I've seen others do, which is to get an original shell and try fit it with a repro liner, which shouldn't be too difficult to do, I hope.
If you haven’t already, I definitely recommend joining the discord. There’s a lot of good people there who can help out in ways I may not be able to.
I think there might be a couple South African lads there as well
@@Wolfof1918 I'll be sure to do so, and thanks again!
You are so well spoken! Great job.
How do u even find original ones from WW1 💀
Antique stores, eBay, friends, etc
I've been trying to make a good repro m17 but don't know the dimensions or know where to get parts
You can ask around to see if you can get someone who knows what they’re doing to take proper measurements, or see if you can get one on loan.
As for the non leather or paper cloth parts they’d need to be scrapped of repros or custom manufactured
@@Wolfof1918 luckyline1945 on eBay has some rings and filters but they are really farb. I can get them from better suppliers but that will be really pricey. I just have to take a leap of faith and I'm not sure if I'm ready to put so much on the line
@@andrewgregory151 honestly I would take it slow, you’re first one will be farb so don’t try to spend the money on making it perfect. Create a basic, cheap mask that gives you the practical knowledge for making future ones.
I’d focus on getting the measurements first, however.
You should search great war craft on yt and there is a video how to make a gm17
Hello wolf of 1918 i know im kinda late but i wanted to ask where did you get your m15 gas mask you wore in the beginning of the video thanks for your respond.
That would be KuK Replik :)
@@Wolfof1918 thank you!
Do you think the repros will get better with time? I’ve already reworked mine, but I really hope to see better ones in the future. I’m newer to the hobby so I’m not sure if companies have a tendency to fix those kinds of things.
probably. more people are getting into the ww1 reenacting than before and are demanding quality. Some of the reproductions from the early 2000s looked god awful but as time goes on, quality improved.
As a gas mask collector I love this vid and would really love to have all the gas masks in the vid
UPDATE: I finally got gm17, and it's the most unique one I have EVER seen!😉💪
Where did you get your m15 mask? I just got into German WWI and fritz has been pushing me to get one lol
m.kukreplika.cz/products/ru-gasmaska-novovyroba
I’ll probably put it in the desc too lol
I was planning to buy a repo gm17 for $120 but I ended up finding an original in mint condition for $190
Just don't wear it 👍
yeah its in mint condition i wore it once or twice its fine they dont have asbestos but I just wanted to wear it once or twce before it sitch on a shelf for forever. even the lenses are perfect and not even discolored barely
where do you get your reproduction gas masks
Questing were did you get your m15 I can't find a desent reproduction
Check hessen antique, for a m1917 go to frogsacks
I just got my repro m15 gas mask and it's coming but I'm just waiting in the meantime
Do you think that it is safe to wear a replica ww1/ww2 gas mask???
Perfectly safe for replicas
Even ww2 ones??? I’ve been told to not wear them because they could be dangerous as well
Replicas are fine, it's the originals you need to be careful of
I like your reproduction m15
On the website that sells the GM15, do you just contact the seller to obtain one?
Yea you’ll have to email them
Danke schön!
At first I thought this video was gonna be bad.
Turns out... it was a gas :))
Well and dont original filters contain asbestos too? Id imagine thats the mainreason you dont want to wear an original.
Not with the German ones
@@Wolfof1918 so my WW2 German mask would be safe to wear?
@@madarauchiha919 not WW2, just WW1
@@Wolfof1918 ok. So I know you mentioned that some people were trying to make good m17s are those a made to order kind of thing like your 15 was? And if so do you know where to get it, I just prefer the 17 look over the 15.
What’s the music in your intro?
Is the m15 you are wearing the one from nestof? and is it any good for the price?
how accurate is the gas mask from the Soldier of Fortune site? I've gotten a lot of WW2 German stuff from there, albeit from RUM which is much higher quality than SoF originals, but i haven't gotten any WW1 German items from them
Wait where do you get your reproduced gas masks I’ve been looking everywhere
Hi, recently they have been making a more advanced reproduction of the m17. What are your thoughts on it and do you think they beat the older reproductions?
How did you replace the lenses on it?
have any concerns regarding contents of the filters? Like I know that a few creators here will warn of asbestos frequently
I have a video discussing that, actually, highly recommend you check it out
Can you show the links to this air soft gas mask 🙏
Awesome video! Where can I get gueuemaske (I think thats how you write it) replica for sale?
You can find it here:
m.kukreplika.cz/products/ru-gasmaska-novovyroba-/
@@Wolfof1918 Thx for the link. Do you where I can find the 1917/18 model?
Those are everywhere and nowhere tbh, I’d recommend nestof however
@@Wolfof1918 ah ok. Thank you for the recommendation.
@@Wolfof1918 What is the best way to order from this website? The layout is confusing.
Guitars!!!
Hey I’m new to this and I would like to know where you got your original gas mask, just curious I don’t think I’ll actually buy want but I’m really curious. Thanks I’m advance :)
My M17 has a sharp grease smell, I have smelled chlorine gas and it isn't quite the same smell so I'm wondering if anyone knows what that smell is.
M17s were coated in what one could call a grease to "seal" the leather. You probably have one that was never used, which is really neat
Thanks for the quick reply, you were recommended by someone on reddit when I had questions about the M17. That is really cool, would the grease wear off if worn in the field?@@Wolfof1918
I'm not too sure, my assumption is yes but there isn't a lot of information about field care for the m17 in English literature. It is possible your gas mask was done up right before a surrender, in a POW camp, just at the armistice, or even post war by a veteran keeping his gear in working shape
Thanks for the info, I'd think it's likely someone was keeping it greased decades after the war to keep the leather pliable as well. With all the rain, I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers were using any grease they could to keep their masks airtight and their boots water resistant.@@Wolfof1918
That would definitely make a lot of sense, its also possible it was being used as a reenactment piece decades ago which wasnt too uncommon
THOSE ARE FILLED WITH ASBESTOS
Luckily the German ones aren’t
Are Nestof gas-masks good?
the channel "history secrets" made a video about his new ww1 impression gear. he has a nestof gas mask and he talks about it. he recommends it quite a bit.
Omg watch out for asbestos
Ww1 filters didn't have asbestos
So id rather have the m17 look i love the spider eye design. What is the best m17 replica?
Does the uniform get hot in the summer
Think you should take into consideration that your original masks are about a hundred years old so they're going to look not like how they used to
Repro stahlhelms are horrible 😭
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