*rare footage of a British Tommy briefly explaining to American Doughboys the horrors of the Trenches 1918 Colorized 2003* Edit: over a hundred likes thanks I’m amazed
Note: Moisture is not necessarily saliva. Wind instruments (which I play) also get puddles of liquids which are, in fact, just condensed water vapour from the breath. In a way, that is distilled water and quite safe to drink, but most people find it disgusting because they believe it is saliva.
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that. The inside of the hose must become terribly wet by the end of wearing it for a long period, just as with an instrument!
Fantastic! A First World War related video. It’s not something I was expecting, but I very much enjoy it. It’s honestly nice to see how these things work.
You must also remember that each soldier did get a small tube of anti-fogging cream to put on the inside of the eye pieces to stop fogging and misting, & a small roll of tape was available with the section commander if there were any tears, plus you had to wear gloves and a hood to protect the skin from chlorine. and the fact that you have a REPRO item that is not made to the same military specs as originals.
I actually decided to find a decoy off of ebay at one point, and use that as my mask for school in the pandemic, needles to say I got the shit beaten out of me.
I wish to make a comment concerning the safety of your mask. Obviously it is a replica, but if you ever intended to add a functioning filter into it, there are some things you should know. I have heard rumours that you suffer from asthma. Whether or not this is true is not important because the dangers of old gas masks affect us all regardless. First is asbestos. Asbestos would remain a common filter in gas masks until the MCMLX's, and in the case of Soviet masks, for much longer. This would not affect you should the mask remain intact, but because your mask is not of perfect quality, if you put a functioning filter in it, it could be damaged easily and you could breathe in asbestos and contract asbestosis. Second is talcum powder. Talcum powder was used to keep the mask dry while in shipping. Normally you have to clean it out before you wear it, but I did not see any, so I suppose you are okay. Finally ( if I remember correctly) is arsenic. Arsenic was a common chemical used in British gas masks until after World War II. Again, should the mask become compromised, you could begin breathing in arsenic. I am not trying to stop you from wearing the mask, and I know you do not have a filter in it, but I wanted to ensure you knew of the dangers. If you see traces of a white powder in the mask (it is quite hard to see), just blow it out somehow (compressed air might work). Thank you for your time. P.S : OMG!!!!!11111ONEONEONE WEAR IS MAI 1763 MANUOOL OF ARMS VIDEOO #notmybrandonf
I feel I should just add, that I do not suffer from asthma. But thank you for all of the other notes...a few people in the comments had already seemed quite concerned I was breathing out of an antique! Not a good idea!
I seem to think you did too. I can recall you saying you carried your inhaler with you in re-enactments. Ladies and Gentlemen we have a confirmed case of the Mandella Effect. Alternate Universe confirmed
Asbestosis takes a long time to develop, but still not something you want to contract. As for the question of the mysterious Brandon F "asthma", I also seem to recall him mentioning something about a breathing difficulty before (in a reply to a comment or something). I could be totally wrong, but it seems the Mandella Effect is strong with this one. Hmm... Also, is that a Fez in the background?
What’s This? Brandon talking about a war in the 1900s?! OUTRAGOUS #notmybrandonf Also nice thumbnail title-thing Also I’m joking, please do more if you can.
The SBR was a simple but very effective system. It's competition was the French M2 system. American forces were issued and used both the M2 and the SBR; While the SBR was preferred by most when wearing it for short periods, the M2 was better for longer periods. The saliva issue and fogging were issues common to both the SBR and M2. Good video.
Saliva and fogging are still an issue in 21st century gas masks. Often due to that while the designs has improved greatly with dual layer masks and filtered air beeing circulated between the two layers through sets of one-way valves before being inhaled in the inner mask, one is simultaneously expexted to fight more agressively under a much heavier gear load. (Individual kit components are mostly lighter but there are more of them)
While the M2 was preferred for wearing over a long period, it was less effective. The life of an M2 is somewhere around 5 hours, and gas attacks regularly lasted 8+. Meanwhile, the SBR can last 50-100 hours depending on the concentration and type of gas. Swapping masks in a chemical environment is the absolute example of Bad Idea. Eventually, doughboys were forbidden from carrying M2s, because men would try to swap from the SBR to the more comfortable French Duckbill.
SonsOfLorgarI never had any issues with saliva when wearing a modern gas mask, at least not when just wearing it around in a non-contaminated environment. The only time spit was an issue was going through the gas chamber and cracking open the mask to practice donning and clearing, but that's because of the tear gas and not the mask itself. This was back in the '90s using the old M17 gas masks with the cheek filters.
Another great presentation! I must admit I never realised the mask itself was canvas, always thought it was rubber like the WW2 versions. The very first 'gas masks' on the western front were the soldiers hankies soaked in urine!
17:44 thanks that helps a lot, I just got a corrected English model and couldn't figure out the pack stays high up. I thought it had something to do with a hook on it but it leaves a lot of extra strap dangling so that's what got me confused. Thanks again
As a WWI re-enactor of some years, I can confirm: yes, the bag does face "backwards". Though I would say you still wearing it a bit low (about level with the second from top button works well) - though I suspect this may be for the mic. One little thing I am surprised you didn't show was the shortening stud - if one needs to put it on in a hurry (and as such not faff around with the string) one can connect the stud on the rear centre of the tab to the leather flap on the bag, putting it in the ready position immediately (albeit not as securely as doing it with the string). This is also a boon to re-enactors, who may need to go from "Front Line" to "Parade" or vice versa in minutes, unlike the original chaps! One can also just use the shortening stud and wrap the string around oneself for extra stability- the chap with the WRNS officer is wearing it in this fashion - it is easier that the proper way, and as secure, and can be done after you put on webbing (string through strap needs to be done before)
Great video! I would love to see a video one day on how you store and maintain/clean all of your Uniforms, especially the Napoleonic ones! I think Im right to think that those reenacment battles leave one or two grass or powder stains on your fashionable attire :)
If you're going to go WWI, and forgive me if you've already read it, read "A Rifleman Went To War" by H.W. McBride. An American who enlisted in Canada to get into the war sooner.
Could you possibly make new Great War videos? I know it would take a while to consider fitting in, but please do (consider). Thank you so much the time and effort you put into these truly educational videos of history. I've been a fan for years
The accumulation of saliva is the reason why that exhale valve is placed where it is--the idea is that saliva that drips down into the valve assembly will be voided out the exhale valve, as opposed to accumulating inside the valve assembly, or running down the hose and potentially ruining the filter. If saliva is dripping out of the exhale valve, it's working as intended. Another neato design feature: the reason a lot of WWI masks bulge out at the corners of the eyes is to allow the wearer to push the corners in, and use them to wipe condensation off the lenses without taking the mask off (like cleaning a pair of glasses with the hem of your shirt).
I would recommend not to use the original filter, because of aspestos. Change it to a modern one if you want to avoid an unecessary risk of getting cancer
the PH gas hood was not made to filter chlorine gas but was made to neutralize or block the chlorine gas from coming through the sack like hood so you will breathe in fresh air. It would not be able to neutralize or block any other gases though.
Brandon F. I’m a really big fan of your videos and fascinated by the topics you talk about and I was wondering if you could make a video about the types of soldiers in the American revolution
Interesting how it reminds me of Non invasive Ventilation (NIV) in medicine. The only difference is that the small box is replaced by a Ventilator machine, which eases the workload of our chest muscles and what not. But the modern bacterial Filter is placed at the far end of the hose as well.
Q.A.R.N.N.S? The female officer's uniform in one of the photographs appears to similar to that of a Nursing Officer of the Queen Alexandra's Royal Naval Nursing Service. The tri-corn hat she is wearing is similar to the one used today.
World War I; An instructor from the Women's Royal Naval Service demonstrating the use of a respirator to military recruits. (Note by Sergeant A Brooksbank, Gas NCO, 10th Australian Infantry Brigade: 'Of civilian interest to encourage lady instructors'). -Australian War Memerial
I was in a mechanized infantry unit during the cold war. Gas masks were terrible, they were worn as punishment sometimes. We would also frequently train in them including MOPP4 Soccer! In our full protective gear we would be relatively anonymous and with poor visibility it was an occasion to throw an elbow into the ribs of an NCO or butter-bar that had been a pain in your ass. Thus MOPP4 Soccer became Payback Soccer! Then it disappeared altogether! As the driver of the M113A1 APC, I had a mask with the hose leading to a cannister in a bag, quite similar to the SBR. This was needed to hook up to the microphone in the communications system. Some of the drivers would disconnect the hose from the filter and tie it down inside the bag, making breathing much easier. I don't recall driving while wearing one of these ridiculous things. That was probably something that caused training accidents and was discouraged.
The respirator bag was designed to block mud and dirt from clogging the filter box that was its primary reason to exist were the German on the mask filter was slightly more suspectuable to dirt while being warn also the bag was an extra layer of gas protection and a cheeper way of protecting the mask the german steel can used steel which was a more vital war resorce than canvas
As with anything, find a unit or a reenactor help page on facebook and ask them, its all going to depend on what army you want to represent. For the AEF, What Price Glory will have most of the things you need (I understand they have quite a lot of British gear as well, but I know less about that).
_"…You get a gas mask, what are you supposed to do? Put it on, play games for an hour…don't judge me."_ Hah! @Brandon F do keep playing with your gas masks - we surely do the same! ;)
The History Army! Yes it does, it’s dated 1942 and I did research the stamp but I’ve forgotten what I found out! I’m out of the country until next week when I return and research the markings again!
Where did you buy that Brodie helmet? Because it looks better then a the one I have right now And edit where did you get the cap and jacket and presumably you’re wearing trousers so where did you get everything basically.
Best place I know of for brodies, excluding originals (they do turn up) is a company called military history workshop. They also do SBR though I suspect Mr F's is a What Price Glory (along with the uniform)
Hands down the best helmets (american or British pattern) come from prairie flower leather company. You'll pay a little more but trust me it's worth the investment to have a good liner if you plan to get serious about ww1
I had a collection of WW1 and WW2 has masks as a child that I got from my father and I dont remember my WW1 British mask having a mouthpiece? And the mask itself was more clothlike and less rigid.
My great grandfather was in the Great War of the US army. He was apart of the 42nd Infantry division 166 infantry regiment. I have his original helmet that he fought in. I just need a gas mask to complete the set. Stumbled across this video. Love it. Where did you get it? Please tell me!!!!! 😀
10:18 often times when exposed to gas I believe you’d get awful blisters almost like a rash or something equivalent to a first or second degree burn correct me if I’m wrong but your eyes would get fucked also. So while your nose is plugged or your mouth is sealed around the mouthpiece, if gas got in, your eyes would be toast.
I think dehydration would only make the saliva situation worse. Dehydration would only result in a thickening of the saliva, rather like urine turns darker w/ dehydration.
8:50 ...severe dehydration... ...might have happened a lot... ...in combat-situations or when marching with heavy gear... ...poor guys...all of them...! :-(
Your gas mask voice has that "adults talking to kids" sound from "Peanuts.";) The use of poison gas made "the manly mustache/beard" obsolete...for the survivors. A film about "Lance Corporal Hitler," showed the absolute necessity for the "trimmed for gas mask" Bavarian mustache.
your facepiece seems awfully rigid. btw, the largish folds at the sides of the facepiece are so you can use your finger in them to wipe off the eyepieces. "flutter valve" and the sbr was supplanted by the "corrected english model" (CEM) that added a frame around the flutter valve to keep the flutter from deforming and ingressing air when it hit something or got folded. i think the facepiece on the zelinsky kummat mask was more sophisticated and the filter arangement of the greman gm15/gm18 was superior.
You actually wearing that bag low for the battle ready position you would want to wear the mask as high up as possible If I remember some were tje prescribed high was as high as not to interfere with the use of the rifle or someting close to that I beleve the rule of thumb was the second uniform button I dont know if that was the brits or Americans I would assume Brita as they had fewer unifor buttons
I am indeed, something that I made sure to correct when I went to my first event with it. It can be difficult to get the thing to hang at the proper height when you're running around in difficult terrain!
I found one at a flea market and bought it, it only has 1 small hole on the side of the mask, about a quarter inch. The glass plates are orange? And the box is green, ive looked at it twice and the respirator box is open (slightly afraid of aspestos) but the hose is in tact and im just trying to identify it. It has the service encounter but i dont want to wreak it by taking it out. Is there a discord or something that i could join?
I would not recommend taking something like that to a Discord server- not only could it be historically important if it is what you think it is (not rare per se, just important!) and like you said there could be asbestos. I would recommend reaching out to a WW1 museum. Feel free to shoot me an email at BrandonF@nativeoak.org as well and I could see about asking some of my friends who may provide some better direction for you, re; which museums to contact etc.
While the BSBR was an effective respirator of the first world war, some of the American derivatives and French masks were far better, due to reduced weight, higher filtrating abilities, or the presence of Tissot tubes(Small tubes that ushered inhaled air over the eyepieces via a "Y" shaped deflector system to combat fogging of the lenses.). Another thing to note is that the mask you currently have is not a British SBR, but rather an American SBR. The ASBR was hastily developed after America realised the need for it's own respirator, and was patterned off of the BSBR. Once the ASBR was finished, a small batch of them were sent over to Britain to be tested. After being tested by the British, the ASBRs were found to be incapable of filtrating the chemicals that were being deployed on the Western Front. Thus, the filters on ASBRs were painted black to denote that they were to be used explicitly for training. Edit: Just read the post in the description, and early filters on the BSBR were also painted black, nevermind.
*rare footage of a British Tommy briefly explaining to American Doughboys the horrors of the Trenches 1918 Colorized 2003* Edit: over a hundred likes thanks I’m amazed
No he said 2003 as a random year...
A Bloody Brit thanks someone got the joke there.
British commander more like.
Gave you an extra like fucker. Hope you're even more happy
Armani Rodriguez fuck yes
Note: Moisture is not necessarily saliva. Wind instruments (which I play) also get puddles of liquids which are, in fact, just condensed water vapour from the breath. In a way, that is distilled water and quite safe to drink, but most people find it disgusting because they believe it is saliva.
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that. The inside of the hose must become terribly wet by the end of wearing it for a long period, just as with an instrument!
aaaaahhhhhhhh the joys of the spitvalve! those were the days lol.
Bleh
I think Trumpets and Trombones disagree. Wood instruments are most likely condensation as well as everybody but Trumpets and Trombones
Love it
Make more WW1 videos please
@Anti-Thot Officer Johnson you mean daddy
Love your videos good sir.
"I find them quite intriguing. do keep up the good work.
Daddy
I love you content! You are the reason i got intrested in history! Thanks for sparkijg ky intrest in history!
"Don't judge me"- every reenactor at every event
why
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People always (or somewhat) judge
@@chainsaw2999 Its considered nerdy but not in away that is easily consoomable in the way that, say, the Marvel movies are.
@@hobbesthebrainslug12 Idk, it's pretty fucking cool to re-fight small unit battles from WW2, I don't think many people will disagree with me on that.
@@secretbaguette it's terrifying doing a ww1 night time reenactment especially with gas masks on
Fantastic! A First World War related video. It’s not something I was expecting, but I very much enjoy it. It’s honestly nice to see how these things work.
He's done some about the Red Army in WWII (in the appropriate uniform).
Me when seeing Brandon in the beginning of the video: "Lord Vader, this is an unexpected pleasure. We are honoured by your presence!"
*Intense choking sounds*
You must also remember that each soldier did get a small tube of anti-fogging cream to put on the inside of the eye pieces to stop fogging and misting, & a small roll of tape was available with the section commander if there were any tears, plus you had to wear gloves and a hood to protect the skin from chlorine. and the fact that you have a REPRO item that is not made to the same military specs as originals.
I actually decided to find a decoy off of ebay at one point, and use that as my mask for school in the pandemic, needles to say I got the shit beaten out of me.
Little did they know you’re a chad for that
I hope you changed the filter to a modern one because of aspestos
@@thehighground174 it is a reproduction he bought, it would not have contained asbestos
I wish to make a comment concerning the safety of your mask. Obviously it is a replica, but if you ever intended to add a functioning filter into it, there are some things you should know. I have heard rumours that you suffer from asthma. Whether or not this is true is not important because the dangers of old gas masks affect us all regardless.
First is asbestos. Asbestos would remain a common filter in gas masks until the MCMLX's, and in the case of Soviet masks, for much longer. This would not affect you should the mask remain intact, but because your mask is not of perfect quality, if you put a functioning filter in it, it could be damaged easily and you could breathe in asbestos and contract asbestosis. Second is talcum powder. Talcum powder was used to keep the mask dry while in shipping. Normally you have to clean it out before you wear it, but I did not see any, so I suppose you are okay. Finally ( if I remember correctly) is arsenic. Arsenic was a common chemical used in British gas masks until after World War II. Again, should the mask become compromised, you could begin breathing in arsenic.
I am not trying to stop you from wearing the mask, and I know you do not have a filter in it, but I wanted to ensure you knew of the dangers. If you see traces of a white powder in the mask (it is quite hard to see), just blow it out somehow (compressed air might work). Thank you for your time.
P.S : OMG!!!!!11111ONEONEONE WEAR IS MAI 1763 MANUOOL OF ARMS VIDEOO #notmybrandonf
I feel I should just add, that I do not suffer from asthma. But thank you for all of the other notes...a few people in the comments had already seemed quite concerned I was breathing out of an antique! Not a good idea!
Oh a little asbestos never hurt anyone, just don't wear it daily
I seem to think you did too. I can recall you saying you carried your inhaler with you in re-enactments. Ladies and Gentlemen we have a confirmed case of the Mandella Effect. Alternate Universe confirmed
Asbestosis takes a long time to develop, but still not something you want to contract. As for the question of the mysterious Brandon F "asthma", I also seem to recall him mentioning something about a breathing difficulty before (in a reply to a comment or something). I could be totally wrong, but it seems the Mandella Effect is strong with this one. Hmm...
Also, is that a Fez in the background?
Agreed, it does not have a filter, but if he were to ever put one in, that was my concern.
What’s This?
Brandon talking about a war in the 1900s?!
OUTRAGOUS
#notmybrandonf
Also nice thumbnail title-thing
Also I’m joking, please do more if you can.
Hahaha I got it that, was actually funny I chuckled a a bit
Guess you missed his WWII soviet vids
Andrei Rotenev
I guess you missed the “I’m joking” part of my comment
Also I have seen his WWII videos.
brock T.M me to
@@Sheridan2LT Yeah, you missed the "i'm joking" part too.
The SBR was a simple but very effective system. It's competition was the French M2 system. American forces were issued and used both the M2 and the SBR; While the SBR was preferred by most when wearing it for short periods, the M2 was better for longer periods. The saliva issue and fogging were issues common to both the SBR and M2. Good video.
Saliva and fogging are still an issue in 21st century gas masks.
Often due to that while the designs has improved greatly with dual layer masks and filtered air beeing circulated between the two layers through sets of one-way valves before being inhaled in the inner mask, one is simultaneously expexted to fight more agressively under a much heavier gear load. (Individual kit components are mostly lighter but there are more of them)
While the M2 was preferred for wearing over a long period, it was less effective. The life of an M2 is somewhere around 5 hours, and gas attacks regularly lasted 8+. Meanwhile, the SBR can last 50-100 hours depending on the concentration and type of gas. Swapping masks in a chemical environment is the absolute example of Bad Idea. Eventually, doughboys were forbidden from carrying M2s, because men would try to swap from the SBR to the more comfortable French Duckbill.
SonsOfLorgarI never had any issues with saliva when wearing a modern gas mask, at least not when just wearing it around in a non-contaminated environment. The only time spit was an issue was going through the gas chamber and cracking open the mask to practice donning and clearing, but that's because of the tear gas and not the mask itself. This was back in the '90s using the old M17 gas masks with the cheek filters.
Arent the british and us gasmask the same or no?
When I read the title, I thought it was by Weaponsandstuff23, a channel that mainly focuses on respirators.
Picked up one of these today. You've taught me a lot, especially the string part. Many thanks!
If I ran into a burning building with this mask on would I be protected from the smoke?
I love these WW1 videos, my favourite period of history, closely followed by the "redcoat" period as it is referred to.
you look good donning a tommy's first world war uniform
FranzUuv This Guy gets all the ladies.
Another great presentation! I must admit I never realised the mask itself was canvas, always thought it was rubber like the WW2 versions. The very first 'gas masks' on the western front were the soldiers hankies soaked in urine!
Brandon is losing his Mid Altantic accent! Someone get him back to Blighty quickly!
17:44 thanks that helps a lot, I just got a corrected English model and couldn't figure out the pack stays high up. I thought it had something to do with a hook on it but it leaves a lot of extra strap dangling so that's what got me confused. Thanks again
As a WWI re-enactor of some years, I can confirm: yes, the bag does face "backwards". Though I would say you still wearing it a bit low (about level with the second from top button works well) - though I suspect this may be for the mic.
One little thing I am surprised you didn't show was the shortening stud - if one needs to put it on in a hurry (and as such not faff around with the string) one can connect the stud on the rear centre of the tab to the leather flap on the bag, putting it in the ready position immediately (albeit not as securely as doing it with the string). This is also a boon to re-enactors, who may need to go from "Front Line" to "Parade" or vice versa in minutes, unlike the original chaps! One can also just use the shortening stud and wrap the string around oneself for extra stability- the chap with the WRNS officer is wearing it in this fashion - it is easier that the proper way, and as secure, and can be done after you put on webbing (string through strap needs to be done before)
Brilliant, I am sure that I will find this all quite useful at my first event!
Failed chance to quote “Luke I am your father”
No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!
Great video!
I would love to see a video one day on how you store and maintain/clean all of your Uniforms, especially the Napoleonic ones!
I think Im right to think that those reenacment battles leave one or two grass or powder stains on your fashionable attire :)
If you're going to go WWI, and forgive me if you've already read it, read "A Rifleman Went To War" by H.W. McBride. An American who enlisted in Canada to get into the war sooner.
Matthew Carberry I hate Woodrow Wilson
Thank you Brandon for being true to your word from my last comment (I don’t mean to sound sarcastic I’m genuinely thanking you)
Wow how did I get highlighted?!
Could you possibly make new Great War videos? I know it would take a while to consider fitting in, but please do (consider). Thank you so much the time and effort you put into these truly educational videos of history. I've been a fan for years
The accumulation of saliva is the reason why that exhale valve is placed where it is--the idea is that saliva that drips down into the valve assembly will be voided out the exhale valve, as opposed to accumulating inside the valve assembly, or running down the hose and potentially ruining the filter. If saliva is dripping out of the exhale valve, it's working as intended.
Another neato design feature: the reason a lot of WWI masks bulge out at the corners of the eyes is to allow the wearer to push the corners in, and use them to wipe condensation off the lenses without taking the mask off (like cleaning a pair of glasses with the hem of your shirt).
Glad to see you’ve gone down the route of the Great War!
More WW1 stuff if possible. I quite enjoy it
Make more WW1 videos my friend
Great video- thank you for describing how that string works! I just bought one of these for my AEF impression.
I would recommend not to use the original filter, because of aspestos. Change it to a modern one if you want to avoid an unecessary risk of getting cancer
Amazing video as always! Howdy from Texas
I have an old Soviet gas mask and the bottom of the bag has two wooden blocks on the bottom that would serve the roll that the metal coil has
Lord Vader, I-
Wait, you aren’t Lord Vader..
the PH gas hood was not made to filter chlorine gas but was made to neutralize or block the chlorine gas from coming through the sack like hood so you will breathe in fresh air. It would not be able to neutralize or block any other gases though.
Brandon F. I’m a really big fan of your videos and fascinated by the topics you talk about and I was wondering if you could make a video about the types of soldiers in the American revolution
Wow good churchill voiceover at the beginning
Interesting how it reminds me of Non invasive Ventilation (NIV) in medicine. The only difference is that the small box is replaced by a Ventilator machine, which eases the workload of our chest muscles and what not. But the modern bacterial Filter is placed at the far end of the hose as well.
Q.A.R.N.N.S? The female officer's uniform in one of the photographs appears to similar to that of a Nursing Officer of the Queen Alexandra's Royal Naval Nursing Service. The tri-corn hat she is wearing is similar to the one used today.
She's a Wren Officer - again, they wore the tri-corne (as do female RN officers)
World War I; An instructor from the Women's Royal Naval Service demonstrating the use of a respirator to military recruits. (Note by Sergeant A Brooksbank, Gas NCO, 10th Australian Infantry Brigade: 'Of civilian interest to encourage lady instructors'). -Australian War Memerial
I’m liking the diversity. Keep up the great work my friend.
I was in a mechanized infantry unit during the cold war. Gas masks were terrible, they were worn as punishment sometimes. We would also frequently train in them including MOPP4 Soccer! In our full protective gear we would be relatively anonymous and with poor visibility it was an occasion to throw an elbow into the ribs of an NCO or butter-bar that had been a pain in your ass. Thus MOPP4 Soccer became Payback Soccer! Then it disappeared altogether! As the driver of the M113A1 APC, I had a mask with the hose leading to a cannister in a bag, quite similar to the SBR. This was needed to hook up to the microphone in the communications system. Some of the drivers would disconnect the hose from the filter and tie it down inside the bag, making breathing much easier. I don't recall driving while wearing one of these ridiculous things. That was probably something that caused training accidents and was discouraged.
Hey Brandon, what website did you get your ww1 uniform from?
The respirator bag was designed to block mud and dirt from clogging the filter box that was its primary reason to exist were the German on the mask filter was slightly more suspectuable to dirt while being warn also the bag was an extra layer of gas protection and a cheeper way of protecting the mask the german steel can used steel which was a more vital war resorce than canvas
Yes, but the canister protected the mask better when carrying it.
As someone looking to get into Great War reenacting, what source would you recommend for reproduction equipment?
FalconKPD what side? Entente or central powers?
As with anything, find a unit or a reenactor help page on facebook and ask them, its all going to depend on what army you want to represent. For the AEF, What Price Glory will have most of the things you need (I understand they have quite a lot of British gear as well, but I know less about that).
I have gotten most of my kit from Soldier of Fortune, but MrDoctorCrow has the right of it. Always find a group first, and consult them.
Thanks for the info. I used to be in a WWII reenactment group; I'm eager to get back into the swing of things.
FalconKPD WPG in California, and Soldier of Fortune in the UK, both are good and sell the only reputable reproduction equipment
I just crack to a smile when you finally walk on screen it's just so sudden xD
At first I thought Brandon is going to do the Darth Vader impression with that gas mask on.
Somehow I always find gas mask with helmet looking very badass
I subscribed- mainly for the Edwardian commentary. The Flaxen haired one approves. Flaxen Saxon
_"…You get a gas mask, what are you supposed to do? Put it on, play games for an hour…don't judge me."_
Hah! @Brandon F do keep playing with your gas masks - we surely do the same! ;)
QUARTERMASTEREMI6 actually I do ._________. Plz don't judge, I play bf1 and bf5
I saw an original one of these today at at VFW. It was all falling apart but I could tell what it was. The bag was in far better shape
they dont hold up well.
For those of you who couldn’t understand him with the mask on he said “This video is going to be all the the British small box respirator”.
I love history and this channel is the best
Where to get it is almost my birthday!
I want to get that gasmask! Where do I get it!
Interested and inclined indeed! Looking forward to future first world war uniform videos.
im always surprised by how much throught goes into such simple things, even things like just being able to wear it different ways
Nice clean asbestos for original canister
I use a WW2 dated version of this haversack as my daily carry. Love live Indiana Jones! Great video Brandon again 😊
The History Army! Yes it does, it’s dated 1942 and I did research the stamp but I’ve forgotten what I found out! I’m out of the country until next week when I return and research the markings again!
you should stop using it. give the old soldier a break. 75+ year old fabric becomes fragile.
do you also do ww1 reenacting? or just rev war?
Yep, I usually do one or two WW1 events a year!
Wow! I really want to get started doing it. Do you know any good places?
22:26 😂
It took me at least 3 listens to tell what the heck you were saying 😂
to be honest, the moisture in the valve might very well be a wanted effect to better seal the valve
Where did you buy that Brodie helmet? Because it looks better then a the one I have right now
And edit where did you get the cap and jacket and presumably you’re wearing trousers so where did you get everything basically.
Where do you even buy a brodie helmet?
I'm not sure mine was from amazon but I feel he got it custom made or something because it looks so good and well made
Best place I know of for brodies, excluding originals (they do turn up) is a company called military history workshop. They also do SBR though I suspect Mr F's is a What Price Glory (along with the uniform)
thanks I'll be sure to check the website out
Hands down the best helmets (american or British pattern) come from prairie flower leather company. You'll pay a little more but trust me it's worth the investment to have a good liner if you plan to get serious about ww1
I had a collection of WW1 and WW2 has masks as a child that I got from my father and I dont remember my WW1 British mask having a mouthpiece?
And the mask itself was more clothlike and less rigid.
Now your an honorary British Tommy!!
My great grandfather was in the Great War of the US army. He was apart of the 42nd Infantry division 166 infantry regiment. I have his original helmet that he fought in. I just need a gas mask to complete the set. Stumbled across this video. Love it. Where did you get it? Please tell me!!!!! 😀
I got most of my WW1 stuff from "Soldier of Fortune." "What Price Glory" is another good company for repro kit.
I would assume the nose clips and even snorkle mouth peice is to prevent fogging up the eye windows from moisture in your breath.
Blocking the air intake on the filter is actually how you pressure check your mask to see if it's on right
Brandon Pedantically Plays Battlefield 1. Please god let it happen.
"Are you my mommy?"
Sorry, all I could think of the whole episode 😂
I am also reenactor and would love to get one of those reproduction that is safe to wear like you have could you please tell me where you got it
Soldier of Fortune
Do you still do Soviet reenacting? I've been thinking of doing a Soviet impression and some more videos from you on World War 2 would be awesome!
10:18 often times when exposed to gas I believe you’d get awful blisters almost like a rash or something equivalent to a first or second degree burn correct me if I’m wrong but your eyes would get fucked also. So while your nose is plugged or your mouth is sealed around the mouthpiece, if gas got in, your eyes would be toast.
Brilliant! (I would say paint your canister yellow tho)
I think dehydration would only make the saliva situation worse. Dehydration would only result in a thickening of the saliva, rather like urine turns darker w/ dehydration.
Where does the word "farb" come from? I'd not heard it before watching this channel.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farb_(reenactment)
Thanks :)
"far be it from original"
Being a replica does not mean it won't function. Nice piece of kit.
Have you ever seen the show black adder goes forth and if so what did you think of it?
It'd feel like you're underwater.Where can I get one for my Doughboy uniform ensemble?
Interesting that they decided to use such a long hose, I’m certain that that had a negative impact on the breathability
Yeah, it definitely makes it a little tougher. But on the plus side, it allows greater flexibility and movement.
Can you Do a late world war 1or world war 2 era gas mask (or both)? Keep up the great videos Brandon.
*When you want to chat with fellow history buffs in Brandon’s discord but your account is verified.*
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Sorry for being late
This man looks like he just came out of ww1.
I wish there was a reenactment group close to me, I've wanted to do reenactment in ever since I was a kid, ww1 especially
Is it possible to fill up a SBR replica filter with activated charcoal? would it still work?
8:50 ...severe dehydration...
...might have happened a lot...
...in combat-situations or when marching with heavy gear...
...poor guys...all of them...! :-(
can you do a video on why they stood in lines?
I didn’t know the Pyro in TF2 was Brandon F.
Do a video on firefighter SCBA's. I'm curios to see if there's any difference between European and American versions.
I thought my gas mask was uncomfortable. Nice set.
Got an original for 10$ at an estate sale today
Can you explain the uniform facing colors and their meaning?
How does one obtained one of these contraptions, and can the filter box be filled with activated charcoal?
Nice video. Quite funny, but it shall make an opinion to us, how it was when soldiers had to have it for 1st time.
Your gas mask voice has that "adults talking to kids" sound from "Peanuts.";) The use of poison gas made "the manly mustache/beard" obsolete...for the survivors. A film about "Lance Corporal Hitler," showed the absolute necessity for the "trimmed for gas mask" Bavarian mustache.
your facepiece seems awfully rigid. btw, the largish folds at the sides of the facepiece are so you can use your finger in them to wipe off the eyepieces. "flutter valve"
and the sbr was supplanted by the "corrected english model" (CEM) that added a frame around the flutter valve to keep the flutter from deforming and ingressing air when it hit something or got folded.
i think the facepiece on the zelinsky kummat mask was more sophisticated and the filter arangement of the greman gm15/gm18 was superior.
You actually wearing that bag low for the battle ready position you would want to wear the mask as high up as possible If I remember some were tje prescribed high was as high as not to interfere with the use of the rifle or someting close to that I beleve the rule of thumb was the second uniform button I dont know if that was the brits or Americans I would assume Brita as they had fewer unifor buttons
I am indeed, something that I made sure to correct when I went to my first event with it. It can be difficult to get the thing to hang at the proper height when you're running around in difficult terrain!
I found one at a flea market and bought it, it only has 1 small hole on the side of the mask, about a quarter inch. The glass plates are orange? And the box is green, ive looked at it twice and the respirator box is open (slightly afraid of aspestos) but the hose is in tact and im just trying to identify it. It has the service encounter but i dont want to wreak it by taking it out. Is there a discord or something that i could join?
I would not recommend taking something like that to a Discord server- not only could it be historically important if it is what you think it is (not rare per se, just important!) and like you said there could be asbestos. I would recommend reaching out to a WW1 museum. Feel free to shoot me an email at BrandonF@nativeoak.org as well and I could see about asking some of my friends who may provide some better direction for you, re; which museums to contact etc.
@BrandonF Okay, thanks alot.
Did anyone else JUST find out from this video that he does more then civil war reenactments
Very nice uniform i’m still trying to get my uniform stuff still need my helmet
Play some war of rights its set in 1860's American civilwar but it is still pretty good I think
While the BSBR was an effective respirator of the first world war, some of the American derivatives and French masks were far better, due to reduced weight, higher filtrating abilities, or the presence of Tissot tubes(Small tubes that ushered inhaled air over the eyepieces via a "Y" shaped deflector system to combat fogging of the lenses.). Another thing to note is that the mask you currently have is not a British SBR, but rather an American SBR. The ASBR was hastily developed after America realised the need for it's own respirator, and was patterned off of the BSBR. Once the ASBR was finished, a small batch of them were sent over to Britain to be tested. After being tested by the British, the ASBRs were found to be incapable of filtrating the chemicals that were being deployed on the Western Front. Thus, the filters on ASBRs were painted black to denote that they were to be used explicitly for training.
Edit: Just read the post in the description, and early filters on the BSBR were also painted black, nevermind.
and the american ones introduced a frame around the flutter valve.
Hey, I've read those books too!