I have the Enyaq 60, with the eco leather and I enjoy driving it, then again I've still got my mk2 Superb which is still going strong after 120,000 miles.
I really don't think this obsession with coffee cups is a big deal. I have the Skoda and it is an excllent family car that ticks nearly all the boxes and drives smoothly and well.
I guess it depends how much coffee you drink driving...i am hoping a medium Mcdonalds coffee fits as the holder can be adjusted slightly. I think some people not happy as they use their own plastic mugs which tend to be quite a bit larger /wider or bottles which clearly it is not designed for.
Ive just taken delivery of an Enyak Sportline 85x i am a Ford Fan Boy (Fords all my life) and have gone EV for the first time but i prefered the Enyak to the Explorer.
Good review but a few things were incorrect. All Enyaq 85's charges at 175kwh. Only the Explorer AWD charges at 185 kwh, the other versions only charge at 135kwh. Real world testing shows that the Skoda maintains a higher average chargerate. Both cars drive really well but the Ford has significant more noise a speeds above 50mph compared to the Enyaq. Combined with the fact that the Enyaq has quite a lot more room, both in the driver seats as well as the trunk, just makes it an overall better car. The Explorer is closer to the new Skoda Elroq in size, which is a much cheaper car and better value.
@@charliematters The Enyaq 85 model year 2025(produced from around the summer of 2024 and onwards) is 175 kwh. Earlier models are limited to 135 kwh unless it's an 85x model.
@@charliematters Sorry about that, I should have been a bit more clear. I was mainly talking from the point of the video, comparing the new Explorer with the latest gen Enyaq.
A very fair comparison I would like to say. Although what if you pair up the Explorer with the Elroq? Still has the same sized boot and interior space will be the same, and I'm guessing the Elroq starts at around £6k cheaper than the Enyaq which that's probably more like for like but with a huge savings over the Explorer 👍
Great vid vicky like them both but like the ford in the blue, but still going for the Skoda it’s still one of the favourites cos of the size and boot size 585.
The Ford looks instantly outdated, inside and outside. Rectangular, maybe even more than Škoda cars, but with less character. Vicky, among a hundred of videos of the Enyaq I watched, you will always be the pioneer with the yellow concept car. Amusing that Germans turned Americans to the siblings of us Czechs again, like in May 1945 when General Patton came to my Pilsner home. But now in a different way. Thanks for your explanation that you called the cylinder a coffee cup. I thought it was the standard vessel to store a British nuclear warhead.
The new Skoda Elroq is going to be a better comparison to the Explorer, similarly 20cm shorter and a 100 liters smaller trunk than Enyaq. Yet Elroq's other dimensions inside and outside are the same as Enyaq's, so I'd expect Elroq still to be slightly roomier than Explorer. And Elroq still has more physical buttons (on steering wheel and dash) 😅
I did a test drive in the Explorer last weekend and yes, it’s a nice drive. Comfortable and easy to use. A problem for me though was that my arm obscured my view of the middle screen particularly when less upright. Maybe just me but I was holding the wheel at 10/2 as normal.
I had the Enyaq top of my list but getting a test drive in my region has been impossible. Tried with four local dealers, they never have one, no one ever calls back. In contrast the local Ford dealer has a choice on Explorers to test drive and they do reply to calls!
Vicky mentions that the Skoda has 3 levels of regeneration controlled by paddles. To me this misses the point, that by driving in `B` mode, you actually have infinite levels of regeneration between maximum, lifting your foot completely from the throttle, and minimum (coasting, no regen) by only easing foot pressure by a millimetre or so from steady speed driving. In time, it becomes second nature to only lift just enough to avoid getting too close to the vehicle in front and not to lift too much that you have to accelerate to make up lost speed. Driving this way, all routine slowing regenerates and in normal circumstances the brakes are only used to apply autohold when you need to stop. Also, in an emergency, you are slowing significantly the instant you lift fully off the throttle and a few milliseconds before your foots gets over to and presses down on the brake pedal.
It doesn't. True one pedal drive requires the car to go to a full stop, which the Skoda doesn't do. The braking on the Skoda is also less than you would typically expect in one pedal drive cars, such as Tesla, Nissan Ariya and similar.
First recent Ford that inches above Vauxhall levels of desirability. Low bar perhaps, but it's a start for them. Even so, i think I'd take the Scénic based on what I've seen so far, though a proper test drive could change my mind entirely. Never buy a car on its looks!
You say the cup holders are small and your cup is standard size but mine are standard and fit my enyaq perfectly. I actually asked Škoda about this at an event recently and they (and all the German and Scandinavian owners) were baffled because they think the cup holders are a standard size. Maybe the UK has lots of people with huge American sized cups 🤷
The cup holders in the Enyaq is substantially smaller than just about any other car that has been made for the last 20 years. Even fitting a regular 330ml can is a tight fit. Only the Enyaq on the MEB platform has that issue, both the Explorer, Audi Q4 etc. have more normal sized cupholders. Although their placement isn't always optimal. So a small detail that Skoda should improve in future models.
@@mlykke I put water bottles in all the time and they fit fine. Like I say I raised itwith Skoda with other owners present and no one from any other country understood why it was an issue. The Germans, Finns, Czechs and Swiss owners all just looked confused by my question. The Enyaq cup holders are huge cmpared with my son's Fabia
@@enyaq_gorm It's not huge in any way. It's smaller than just about any other car. When it's a tight fit to fit a regular 330ml soda can that fits with room to spare in all other cars, then that is clear evidence that it's quite small in the Enyaq. There's a reason it's been mentioned in quite a lot of reviews and that people are looking at third party options or even 3D printing solutions for it. It's not a deal breaker for an other wise awesome car, but it's definitely an issue that should be improved in future models.
@@mlykke no I wouldn't say it is huge but standard size cups and bottles fit it fine. And it is much bihher than say the Skoda Fabia. I don't really use cans so can't comment but cups fit just fine. Big bottles are meant to go in the bottle holders.
@@enyaq_gorm I'm sure cups on the smaller side will work. But the issue with cans and even normal 0,5 liter soda bottles where some fit and others don't, i not the typical cleverness you would expect from Skoda. It would have been great if they had used the same cupholder style as the Audi Q4 and many other car brands where the opening is bigger and inside there is 4 small springloaded arms that adjust to whatever size you put in. Slightly annoying but it wasn't enough to stop me from ordering one. I'm getting my Enyaq delivered in January and I'll have to deal with it then.
I could imagine Ford being better on 19s, and other than extra (mostly boot) space in Enyaq I think it manages to beat it in most aspects. It’d be my choice of these two.
Nope, would be nice, but the Enyaq is the best selling EV in Germany in September...true for used Versions, too. The deprecation is the lowest within all the MEBs.
Saving the planet? Hahahahahaha If the powers that be were interested in saving the planet, the e-up would be the best selling car on the planet by a factor of 50. You know, small, efficient, well built, practical, not 21 inch wheels, etc etc ad nauseum, ad infinitum.
You're right. There are already far too many low performance drivers in high performance cars. That's the thing which concerns me about EVs. Putting far too much performance into the hands of idiots.
Went to see the Ford Explorer today. They had a Preimum trim on show. Apart from the pan roof… nearly 50k list price is way too much. Compared to similarly priced skoda, even bmw, the interior just cannot justify the price. Shame.. on paper it ticks so many boxes for us.
@@CptSpears007 You'll learn something new today and you can thank me for the rest of your life. It's the design. A car doesn't have to have a V8 to be interesting visually.
These two are effectively £50,000 cars... Certainly not cheap family cars. One glaring omission from the review, was the Ford has acres of cheap scratchy plastic and certainly doesn't feel like a quality family car inside.
Makes me laugh about people going on about the cup holder size in the enyaq , so what , you shouldn’t be drinking while driving anyway ,although a lot seem to nowadays !.
on the looks - I can't get remotely interested in the Enyaq, it's no doubt a fine car but it has zero design interest for me. It is the definition of 'white goods'.
Skoda all day every day. Enyaq has beaten off the VW amd Audi versions in several tests amd is a fantastic car to drive and own. Ford are dying in Europe, theyre not even in the top ten best sellers list. Skoda, on the otherhand, are flying high in 4th place. Much better cars, better quality.
Enyaq way better looking, what’s going on with the ford steering wheel looks cheap and nasty, Brand for Brand all day long Skoda over a Ford, Recently ordered a Skoda Enyaq Coupe Sportline Plus after test driving many Electric Cas Skoda came out on top,
Luckily Ford sync gets a lot of updates over multiple years and gets better each update and also BlueCruise will come to it in 2025. The panoramic sunroof it's extra equipment, not standard on a premium. Many things on the Explorer is Ford optimised by themselves, and not by VW.
Well done for mentioning the Enyaq's useless cupholders. That ruled it out for us, even though it's great in so many other ways. The rear ones are too small as well, and it looks as if Skoda have gone an d done the same again worth the Elroq. Simply not very clever, and a big disappointment.
@@timaustin2000If not for Musk and his other a fair bit smarter friends than you and I, we’d be having to choose between a diesel or a petrol. Maybe a hybrid. Thank you Musk ‘n friends
So i love how you mentioned every EV rival except the world leader ,best selling vehicle in the world in 2023 and 2024....TESLA Model Y . I know you guys get paid by manufacturers but this is just crazy not to mention the Model Y
To be fair, they are shite though…🤷♂️(subjective I know- but looks like a Barbie car to me with an overly bulbous cabin externally- plus even more appliance-like…).
@@richgl31they are the best EVs on the market wether you like them or not. If you own any EV then you know. If you don't own an EV then that's why you don't know.
@@sorinelpustiu5674 I don’t and I don’t want a Tesla ; I know. It’s also a pretty bold statement; there are a lot of EV’s pitched at different demographics- so you have to have driven them all.. they were perhaps the early leaders- even with that subjectively poor design.
Hope you get a chance of doing a Skoda Elroq test drive Vicky. Very keen to hear your thoughts on it.
The comparison I've been waiting for
I have the Enyaq lounge it’s our family car and it’s fine no wear marking three years in.
I have the Enyaq 60, with the eco leather and I enjoy driving it, then again I've still got my mk2 Superb which is still going strong after 120,000 miles.
I was just thinking the other day apart from the Puma I have no idea what cars Ford sell in the UK anymore
They've pretty much thrown in the towel in Europe.
The management have been awful over the last few years.
The will regret scrapping the fiesta and diesel engines
They used to be household names ,they where on every drive in Britain
Ford has made lousy cars in Europe for many decades now
Puma, Focus, Kuga, Explorer, Capri, Mustang Mach E.
Excellent honest review great channel
The charging numbers for the Enyaq are wrong, I drive an Enyaq 85 Coupe and it fast charges up to 175kW.
I really don't think this obsession with coffee cups is a big deal.
I have the Skoda and it is an excllent family car that ticks nearly all the boxes and drives smoothly and well.
I guess it depends how much coffee you drink driving...i am hoping a medium Mcdonalds coffee fits as the holder can be adjusted slightly. I think some people not happy as they use their own plastic mugs which tend to be quite a bit larger /wider or bottles which clearly it is not designed for.
I like the look of the Skoda best. Among the soft curves of many evs, I love its sharp crystal cuts
I have just been watching this video and l have the skoda enyaq sportline 85x plus 4x4 with 175kw love it
Ive just taken delivery of an Enyak Sportline 85x i am a Ford Fan Boy (Fords all my life) and have gone EV for the first time but i prefered the Enyak to the Explorer.
I have never understood the need to drink coffee (or anything else for that matter) while driving but I guess I'm in the minority on this one.
Good review but a few things were incorrect. All Enyaq 85's charges at 175kwh. Only the Explorer AWD charges at 185 kwh, the other versions only charge at 135kwh. Real world testing shows that the Skoda maintains a higher average chargerate. Both cars drive really well but the Ford has significant more noise a speeds above 50mph compared to the Enyaq. Combined with the fact that the Enyaq has quite a lot more room, both in the driver seats as well as the trunk, just makes it an overall better car. The Explorer is closer to the new Skoda Elroq in size, which is a much cheaper car and better value.
My 85 doesn't charge at anything above 135. Are you sure you don't mean the 85x?
@@charliematters The Enyaq 85 model year 2025(produced from around the summer of 2024 and onwards) is 175 kwh. Earlier models are limited to 135 kwh unless it's an 85x model.
@@mlykke right thanks. You said "all 85s" and I wondered why mine was missing out!
@@charliematters Sorry about that, I should have been a bit more clear. I was mainly talking from the point of the video, comparing the new Explorer with the latest gen Enyaq.
A very fair comparison I would like to say.
Although what if you pair up the Explorer with the Elroq? Still has the same sized boot and interior space will be the same, and I'm guessing the Elroq starts at around £6k cheaper than the Enyaq which that's probably more like for like but with a huge savings over the Explorer 👍
The Elroq is the better car of those two and a much better value than the Explorer.
Great vid vicky like them both but like the ford in the blue, but still going for the Skoda it’s still one of the favourites cos of the size and boot size 585.
Should be easier to buy a cup that fits then buying a car after size of cup holders
The Ford looks instantly outdated, inside and outside. Rectangular, maybe even more than Škoda cars, but with less character. Vicky, among a hundred of videos of the Enyaq I watched, you will always be the pioneer with the yellow concept car.
Amusing that Germans turned Americans to the siblings of us Czechs again, like in May 1945 when General Patton came to my Pilsner home. But now in a different way.
Thanks for your explanation that you called the cylinder a coffee cup. I thought it was the standard vessel to store a British nuclear warhead.
😂😂
The new Skoda Elroq is going to be a better comparison to the Explorer, similarly 20cm shorter and a 100 liters smaller trunk than Enyaq. Yet Elroq's other dimensions inside and outside are the same as Enyaq's, so I'd expect Elroq still to be slightly roomier than Explorer. And Elroq still has more physical buttons (on steering wheel and dash) 😅
I did a test drive in the Explorer last weekend and yes, it’s a nice drive. Comfortable and easy to use. A problem for me though was that my arm obscured my view of the middle screen particularly when less upright. Maybe just me but I was holding the wheel at 10/2 as normal.
Straight in on this. I’ve recently bought an Enyaq Sportline 85X. I love it. I’m converted. Test one. Now. Let’s watch the video.
8.00. Why talk about the slider volume. You’ve got a volume and mute on the steering wheel. ……..
You also have to remember that the Skoda design is 3 years old now. There’s a new one coming soon. It’ll crush the other ev’s. …….
15.0. You can buy an aftermarket cup holder that goes in the Skoda. Up holder to fit any cup.
Well done. Good review.
Skoda for Mercedes money,no thanks.
My old superb 280 tsi was 58,000€ new while my 550hp Tesla Y was 44,000€.
Skoda is nice but it ain't THAT nice
No mention of the upcoming Elroq, if you think the Enyaq is too big??
I have ordered the Elroq 85 as a little smaller for city driving and parking but still suitable and stable for motorway driving. Perfect size IMO.
Skoda Enyaq any day every day.
Why compare the Enyaq to the Explorer, when the latter’s platform is the short version shared with the Skoda Elroq, not the Enyaq 🤷♂️
I had the Enyaq top of my list but getting a test drive in my region has been impossible. Tried with four local dealers, they never have one, no one ever calls back. In contrast the local Ford dealer has a choice on Explorers to test drive and they do reply to calls!
I am biased but I'd say the Ioniq 5 - especially the new refreshed one with the bigger battery and improved interior is the car to go for. :)
Vicky mentions that the Skoda has 3 levels of regeneration controlled by paddles. To me this misses the point, that by driving in `B` mode, you actually have infinite levels of regeneration between maximum, lifting your foot completely from the throttle, and minimum (coasting, no regen) by only easing foot pressure by a millimetre or so from steady speed driving. In time, it becomes second nature to only lift just enough to avoid getting too close to the vehicle in front and not to lift too much that you have to accelerate to make up lost speed. Driving this way, all routine slowing regenerates and in normal circumstances the brakes are only used to apply autohold when you need to stop. Also, in an emergency, you are slowing significantly the instant you lift fully off the throttle and a few milliseconds before your foots gets over to and presses down on the brake pedal.
You said the Skoda don’t have one peddle driving! I must say mine does so I think you may want to look agin.
It doesn't. True one pedal drive requires the car to go to a full stop, which the Skoda doesn't do. The braking on the Skoda is also less than you would typically expect in one pedal drive cars, such as Tesla, Nissan Ariya and similar.
@ mine comes to a complete stop when when I use it
Enyaq looks a lot better but I wouldn’t spec that light bar grill
First recent Ford that inches above Vauxhall levels of desirability. Low bar perhaps, but it's a start for them. Even so, i think I'd take the Scénic based on what I've seen so far, though a proper test drive could change my mind entirely. Never buy a car on its looks!
2:41 the grille reminds me of Bender from Futurama
Since they are both form the same platform, I would go for Ford on the looks and inside screen is great.
Vicky great review keep it up 🤟😍🤩
You say the cup holders are small and your cup is standard size but mine are standard and fit my enyaq perfectly. I actually asked Škoda about this at an event recently and they (and all the German and Scandinavian owners) were baffled because they think the cup holders are a standard size. Maybe the UK has lots of people with huge American sized cups 🤷
The cup holders in the Enyaq is substantially smaller than just about any other car that has been made for the last 20 years. Even fitting a regular 330ml can is a tight fit. Only the Enyaq on the MEB platform has that issue, both the Explorer, Audi Q4 etc. have more normal sized cupholders. Although their placement isn't always optimal. So a small detail that Skoda should improve in future models.
@@mlykke I put water bottles in all the time and they fit fine. Like I say I raised itwith Skoda with other owners present and no one from any other country understood why it was an issue. The Germans, Finns, Czechs and Swiss owners all just looked confused by my question. The Enyaq cup holders are huge cmpared with my son's Fabia
@@enyaq_gorm It's not huge in any way. It's smaller than just about any other car. When it's a tight fit to fit a regular 330ml soda can that fits with room to spare in all other cars, then that is clear evidence that it's quite small in the Enyaq. There's a reason it's been mentioned in quite a lot of reviews and that people are looking at third party options or even 3D printing solutions for it. It's not a deal breaker for an other wise awesome car, but it's definitely an issue that should be improved in future models.
@@mlykke no I wouldn't say it is huge but standard size cups and bottles fit it fine. And it is much bihher than say the Skoda Fabia. I don't really use cans so can't comment but cups fit just fine. Big bottles are meant to go in the bottle holders.
@@enyaq_gorm I'm sure cups on the smaller side will work. But the issue with cans and even normal 0,5 liter soda bottles where some fit and others don't, i not the typical cleverness you would expect from Skoda. It would have been great if they had used the same cupholder style as the Audi Q4 and many other car brands where the opening is bigger and inside there is 4 small springloaded arms that adjust to whatever size you put in.
Slightly annoying but it wasn't enough to stop me from ordering one. I'm getting my Enyaq delivered in January and I'll have to deal with it then.
The Explorer is available in the U.S with a 3.0L twin turbo v6.
Unfortunately the UK gets a silly small EV built on a VW platform
Totally different car.
Skoda does have one pedal driving, in B mode. I don't like the paddles as i'm used to using my feet to make the car go and stop.
Enyaq vs. Capri, Explorer vs. Elroq.
Price ball-park on these 2?
I could imagine Ford being better on 19s, and other than extra (mostly boot) space in Enyaq I think it manages to beat it in most aspects. It’d be my choice of these two.
Nice romanian Design by Liviu Tudoran 🇷🇴 the Ford Explorer
Yo can get the Skoda for under 18k for a 22 plate just wait 6 months there will be another 5k off at the current rate of depreciation
Nope, would be nice, but the Enyaq is the best selling EV in Germany in September...true for used Versions, too.
The deprecation is the lowest within all the MEBs.
2:44
The Ford does look different?
As you sad it is subjective, but i Think the Enyaq looks different. Most EVs has this "sucked round" look.
So do you normally drink a coffee while driving?
Never done it and never will. I normally use the holders for WATER BOTTLES because that's what they're made for.
Clever planning ahead by VW to put absolutely crap buttons on the original Enyak to set Ford up for failure in the re-badge.
In these days of saving the planet why does any car have sports mode?
Saving the planet? Hahahahahaha
If the powers that be were interested in saving the planet, the e-up would be the best selling car on the planet by a factor of 50. You know, small, efficient, well built, practical, not 21 inch wheels, etc etc ad nauseum, ad infinitum.
It’s an EV, it doesn’t effect fuel economy
You're right. There are already far too many low performance drivers in high performance cars.
That's the thing which concerns me about EVs. Putting far too much performance into the hands of idiots.
You are comparing the entry level Enyaq with premium level Explorer.
I'm right handed and prefer my coffee cup in the right door anyway
Like the look of the ford but no one pedal driving, rules them both out for me .
There's a specific enyaq that has the one pedal driving
Went to see the Ford Explorer today. They had a Preimum trim on show. Apart from the pan roof… nearly 50k list price is way too much. Compared to similarly priced skoda, even bmw, the interior just cannot justify the price. Shame.. on paper it ticks so many boxes for us.
Welcome to the festival of bland.
So why are you here, go watch a video of a V8 car you’ll never own
@@CptSpears007 You'll learn something new today and you can thank me for the rest of your life.
It's the design. A car doesn't have to have a V8 to be interesting visually.
I like the Explorer. The Enyaq is too boring
These two are effectively £50,000 cars... Certainly not cheap family cars. One glaring omission from the review, was the Ford has acres of cheap scratchy plastic and certainly doesn't feel like a quality family car inside.
Makes me laugh about people going on about the cup holder size in the enyaq , so what , you shouldn’t be drinking while driving anyway ,although a lot seem to nowadays !.
If only Skoda could ditch that grill, it would look great, including letting go of that chrome. Either way they are just too expensive
I have a Škoda and the infotainment system is ok.
The Mercedes I had was better.
on the looks - I can't get remotely interested in the Enyaq, it's no doubt a fine car but it has zero design interest for me. It is the definition of 'white goods'.
Unfair comparison as the Enyaq is a bigger car than the Explorer. The Explorer should be compared with similar sized cars.
Aiyaqq
Skoda all day every day. Enyaq has beaten off the VW amd Audi versions in several tests amd is a fantastic car to drive and own. Ford are dying in Europe, theyre not even in the top ten best sellers list. Skoda, on the otherhand, are flying high in 4th place. Much better cars, better quality.
Yeah gee that Ford's ride does look a bit choppy
I hate cars with black interior all over,,,,even with glass roof !
Enyaq way better looking, what’s going on with the ford steering wheel looks cheap and nasty,
Brand for Brand all day long Skoda over a Ford,
Recently ordered a Skoda Enyaq Coupe Sportline Plus after test driving many Electric Cas Skoda came out on top,
Skoda has RoofRails.
So has Ford.
Luckily Ford sync gets a lot of updates over multiple years and gets better each update and also BlueCruise will come to it in 2025. The panoramic sunroof it's extra equipment, not standard on a premium. Many things on the Explorer is Ford optimised by themselves, and not by VW.
Byd and 15000 in your pocket….
BYD start from £45,000 for. Car this size
Well done for mentioning the Enyaq's useless cupholders. That ruled it out for us, even though it's great in so many other ways. The rear ones are too small as well, and it looks as if Skoda have gone an d done the same again worth the Elroq. Simply not very clever, and a big disappointment.
Renault Scenic
'drives like a ford, handles like a ford'. consider a career change.
Comparing Skoda to a Ford
Clearly you're high on shrooms
Exactly. Skoda are way ahead in the quality game. Fords are dying as a brand..
For the price. Why just go for Tesla
I know subjective ; but Tesla is even more appliance-like and the aesthetics are somewhat Barbie/toy car for me with an overly bulbous cabin exterior.
Because I hate Tesla interior and lack of buttons
Musk.
And I really like the Enyaq.
@@davidlewis9083and the space
@@timaustin2000If not for Musk and his other a fair bit smarter friends than you and I, we’d be having to choose between a diesel or a petrol. Maybe a hybrid. Thank you Musk ‘n friends
Vw owns both 😂. Thats why we need more cars from china. Good for competition! Europe car manufacturers have been ripping off EU customers for years!!
nope and nope
Families can t afford. Stop the lies.
Ford have lost the plot !
Why?
Another Ford failure.
So i love how you mentioned every EV rival except the world leader ,best selling vehicle in the world in 2023 and 2024....TESLA Model Y .
I know you guys get paid by manufacturers but this is just crazy not to mention the Model Y
Muskmobile 🤮
To be fair, they are shite though…🤷♂️(subjective I know- but looks like a Barbie car to me with an overly bulbous cabin externally- plus even more appliance-like…).
@@richgl31they are the best EVs on the market wether you like them or not.
If you own any EV then you know.
If you don't own an EV then that's why you don't know.
@@sorinelpustiu5674 I don’t and I don’t want a Tesla ; I know. It’s also a pretty bold statement; there are a lot of EV’s pitched at different demographics- so you have to have driven them all.. they were perhaps the early leaders- even with that subjectively poor design.
@@richgl31did a tesla hurt you in some way? Wont drive one but have an entrenched opinion.
Out of the two I’d take the Tesla Model Y
Hahaha ..... those cars make sense only with enormous taxes on Chinese electric vehicles .....