Small-Block Turbo Kit for $699! But Does it Work?

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  • Опубліковано 25 вер 2016
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    You’ve read about them before, probably seen one at your local dragstrip, and have maybe even pondered buying one. Before you do, HOT ROD brings you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about cheap turbo kits.

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  • @boltonky
    @boltonky 4 роки тому +226

    I got one of these kits (without headers) for a steal and have seen it do 1000hp+ on a Mazda Starlet, the solution to the explosive boost problems was to replace the fake wastegate with a real 50mm progate.
    Go cheap turbo, piping etc if you want but don't scrape on the wastegate/blowoff valve they are the only things regulating the boost getting in your engine.
    Also thanks for a wicked video

    • @bobdabuilde99
      @bobdabuilde99 3 роки тому +8

      I’ve had friends disassemble the waste gates and re machine the seats and haven’t had a problem since 👌🏾

    • @briancarolina3081
      @briancarolina3081 3 роки тому +1

      walter Hutchinson yess, here in the carribean we just keep them properly lubed or a small film of anti seizure paste and be done with it.. they are both mechanical parts not much science there..

    • @danielsalmeron3247
      @danielsalmeron3247 2 роки тому

      Thank you sir

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 2 роки тому +5

      @@bobdabuilde99 Down here in sweet home Alabama we just put a bottle on it. Nos works mi amigo!

    • @branchtana315
      @branchtana315 Рік тому +1

      That's what I was always told for years when I was younger and first got into turbo cars. They said you can go cheap with the non-moving metal parts, you can even go cheap on a turbo (if you have to), but if you go cheap on a wastegate or BOV (especially the wastegate) then be prepared to replace an engine block in the not so distant future.

  • @zachbates4118
    @zachbates4118 5 років тому +1045

    why is everyone complaining they made a extra 250 hp for $1000 thats gotta be the best deal ive ever seen haha

    • @larryknight1381
      @larryknight1381 5 років тому +34

      Amen

    • @mikekralj1447
      @mikekralj1447 5 років тому +50

      Could add a used Cheater nitrous kit and spray 250... cost a third of that. Have it on the car in 2 hours...

    • @Swami-Switches
      @Swami-Switches 5 років тому +42

      SERIOUSLY. For my engine there's a SC kit made by RR Racing that costs roughly $7k and only makes about 150hp more than stock...😑

    • @mrcokez1
      @mrcokez1 5 років тому +137

      The ones complaining are the exact same ones who don't know how to turn a wrench.

    • @lesliegoslar8049
      @lesliegoslar8049 5 років тому +6

      Word

  • @Capt_Killingfield
    @Capt_Killingfield 5 років тому +169

    Geez when the music(?) kicked in @ 9:35 my heart dropped i thought you guys spun a bearing or something lol

  • @JPtheHammer
    @JPtheHammer 5 років тому +268

    "This thing makes too much boost." Diesel guys: "Too much boost? What's that?"

    • @thecloneguyz
      @thecloneguyz 4 роки тому +15

      Every time I see a huge lifted turbocharged diesel truck I always ask the owner if he has a CO2 extinguisher or an emergency shut-off kit for it!
      AND THEY ALWAYS SAY NO!
      I will never understand diesel owners that will build a $75,000 rig and then not put a $300 CO2 extinguisher kit on it to stop it from running away accidentally

    • @mustangdemon87
      @mustangdemon87 4 роки тому +3

      @@thecloneguyz extinguisher would be useless. Shut down is a must on a high revver or built motors. Few hundred does save a few grand in an engine

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 4 роки тому +1

      @@thecloneguyz I'd say an extinguisher is more important if you're using pretty much any other fuel, including lithium ion batteries. You wanna talk about runaway? Try "venting with flame" (thermal runaway) on several thousand 18650 cells in a big Tesla.

    • @coltonjacobs5383
      @coltonjacobs5383 4 роки тому +1

      Richard Wolfe they wouldn’t use a big truck to compensate if they were smart.

    • @FreakinKatGaming
      @FreakinKatGaming 4 роки тому

      Lol.

  • @mobrien7211
    @mobrien7211 6 років тому +406

    Half metric and half sae, so it's an 80's GM product.

    • @cab32h42
      @cab32h42 5 років тому +9

      living that struggle right now with my 79 Malibu haha man I don't miss these days.

    • @raptorman6589
      @raptorman6589 5 років тому +5

      I know the struggle. 84 el camino

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 років тому +13

      86 trans am here,were is my fucking 10mm

    • @Shade_tree_garage01
      @Shade_tree_garage01 4 роки тому +3

      I have a 86 Chevy and it’s all standard, I don’t know how this feels

    • @YZFoFittie
      @YZFoFittie 4 роки тому +18

      @@Shade_tree_garage01 no it isn't. Just because you use the wrong sockets doesn't make it SAE...LOL

  • @tylerwabnitz7933
    @tylerwabnitz7933 7 років тому +427

    what I got out of this is this... buy the turbo itself. Everything else make yourself or buy from a good company

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 7 років тому +24

      with the SBC in particular. you can get decent headers any number of places for a good price and youll be fabricating a crossover pipe anyway.
      in my case the options are complete scratch build or ebay manifold. but thats whatbi get for playing with obscure japanese cars.

    • @damstachizz
      @damstachizz 7 років тому +43

      Chinese ebay turbos are really actually very good these days, the trick has always been to buy one of those while fabing your own pipes and getting used good quality wastegate(s). Run it sensibly and it'll last years, push it hard and it'll go bang but so will everything.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 7 років тому +10

      +DrewLSsix meh, you don't really need headers, I've seen some fast junk running flipped cast manifolds. From what some Slops have told me the thinner tubing is releasing a lot of heat and thermodynamic energy that is what turbos crave. I thinks I'd at least attempt to spray a few coats of hitemp coating and wrap shit cloth on the tubular headers. The heat only helps the the turbo spin up all the rest needs to be piped as far away from the engine compartment as possible. me thinks.

    • @Od_13
      @Od_13 7 років тому

      Tyler Wabnitz yeah

    • @starbattles1
      @starbattles1 7 років тому +8

      I assume the pipes supplied are ment to be cut and modified. I think they just give a basic amount of pipe to work with. A little extra pipe wouldn't be much. I'd buy the pipe kit cheep and then get me a good turbo.

  • @jackejr74
    @jackejr74 5 років тому +15

    You guys have the old school knowledge that many people buying these systems on line DO NOT HAVE.... experience is the key.... Great Job Guys!!!!

  • @genmaxpain
    @genmaxpain 5 років тому +12

    i love how Robert Duvall is a Dyno tuner and actor
    i loved him in Secondhand Lions

  • @0ttoman
    @0ttoman 7 років тому +528

    Just isn't the same not seeing freiburger in that room standing next to the motor....

    • @FluffyBunnySlippers
      @FluffyBunnySlippers 7 років тому +21

      motortrend

    • @pizzasub3194
      @pizzasub3194 7 років тому +3

      cadillacphxful
      Haha so right

    • @luke7542
      @luke7542 7 років тому +2

      Motor is actually called electric motorized, you need to edit your comment and change it to engine, not motor lol

    • @speedysandisk78
      @speedysandisk78 7 років тому

      BAM!

    • @MrEvilTag
      @MrEvilTag 6 років тому

      0ttoman engine*

  • @ricerockettuner24
    @ricerockettuner24 7 років тому +88

    without a boost controller, you hook manifold pressure to the bottom Port of the wastegate and leave the top Port open. Then that pressure acts on the spring in the diaphragm thus opening the wastegate at the proper psi... they had the manifold pressure hooked to the top of the gate hence why it kept pegging the boost

    • @StevenWillmy
      @StevenWillmy 5 років тому +5

      They said when the gate was fully open it still wouldn't vent enough exhaust

    • @100pyatt
      @100pyatt 5 років тому +8

      @@StevenWillmy the way they had it plumbed (wrong), the gate could never really open the way it's supposed to

    • @gregorylankford114
      @gregorylankford114 5 років тому +3

      From the look of it the turbo is assembled 180° off, shouldn't the cold or intake side face the front of the vehicle in a real world scenario?

    • @andrewgoodfellow2039
      @andrewgoodfellow2039 Рік тому +1

      That's what happens when you buy a kit without installation instructions

  • @cliftonnutter2484
    @cliftonnutter2484 4 роки тому +5

    I did the same turbo build but with a different manifold on my blow through 385ci 89 s10. Don't know the power level but it's set on 10 lb and I've been driving it for 2 years no problems. As long as you do the proper prep work and maintenance it will last for a long time

  • @GigaMuffin
    @GigaMuffin 6 років тому +65

    When they said they were gonna hit it I thought they were talking about the spark plug at first 😂😂

    • @RedfishCarolina
      @RedfishCarolina 5 років тому +2

      Just drive it in a little deeper and that plug wire will slip right in lol

    • @Neildo430ci
      @Neildo430ci 5 років тому +1

      Header plugs

  • @dennisbryan7522
    @dennisbryan7522 7 років тому +378

    this could have been an engine masters episode

    • @kelli217
      @kelli217 7 років тому +2

      Was going to say this.

    • @2fast4all
      @2fast4all 7 років тому +11

      Also Where is freiburger. Was expecting some whitty lame-yet-cool line.

    • @FluffyBunnySlippers
      @FluffyBunnySlippers 7 років тому +1

      motortrend

    • @dennisbryan7522
      @dennisbryan7522 7 років тому +2

      777superduty motortrend owns hot rod Freiburger is the boss there

    • @inkno701
      @inkno701 7 років тому +5

      I commented on an engine masters episode about this exact idea. Glad to see them test it but also disappointed no Freiburger.

  • @DougHanchard
    @DougHanchard 7 років тому +8

    Superb review. So many enthusiast forget just how hard it is to make a good turbo package work AND fit into a car. One thing I'm curious about and wasn't talked about, was what kind of fuel and timing was the engine set at, given the mild cam (which turbos actually like) and old truck style heads. I couldn't tell if they were early generation Vortec heads or not.

  • @leecosworth
    @leecosworth 7 років тому +21

    A very good video, quite surprised me how that turned out with the power

  • @codellgayden213
    @codellgayden213 5 років тому +16

    Thanks guys, this video really helped. It's nice to see people out there helping others & letting them know what really works & what doesn't work. Too many people go out there thinking they know everything & then blow stuff up. This gives me hope for a sleeper that I want to build.

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 2 роки тому +2

      Did you get your ' sleeper' built? Or were you just running your pie hole?

    • @Jonandtan69
      @Jonandtan69 Рік тому +1

      @@wildestcowboy2668 poop

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 Рік тому

      @@Jonandtan69 dookie shoot?

    • @IparanoiaZ
      @IparanoiaZ Рік тому +1

      @@wildestcowboy2668 he never built it.. however I am building mine with a custom turbo manifold a one off if u will.. I wanna be the first person with a T4 98mm turbo on a 2l Chevy motor ( factory 4 cylinder motor ) on a Cadillac ATS 😂 bout to push the capabilities of this thing. As of right now the biggest that’s been on any ATS motor is a 70-74 I believe from zzp which currently has the record for worlds fastest ATS but.. imma bout to beat ‘em hopefully 🤞 WISH ME LUCK!!

  • @mmodtomic7119
    @mmodtomic7119 7 років тому +112

    Nice video showing what one is getting their self into by buying an eBay turbo kit...but the real question is longevity and reliability. Take that motor and drop it into...well, anything and give it to Freiburger and Finnegan. Have them drive it to Key West and back.

    • @fiber9m
      @fiber9m 7 років тому +18

      agreed. I'd love to see that

    • @channell11
      @channell11 7 років тому +10

      Reliability is usually the weak point of eBay turbos. The concept of producing power with a turbo is easy. The reason why the big name turbos cost more is because when parts are spinning at 100,000+ RPM, the extra money spent on balancing, blueprinting, and quality materials is the difference between a turbo that lasts and one that grenades 6 months down the road.

    • @twotwocold
      @twotwocold 7 років тому +16

      M Modtomic If a eBay turbo cost 400 500 bucks and it last a year long enough to win a few grudge races I'll just replace it, it's cheap HP over replacing a 3K 4K turbo! The eBay turbos are balanced and they make big power you just have to know your shit; keep a spare they won't break the bank💨💨💨

    • @rambow70
      @rambow70 7 років тому +5

      Plus if after a year if your ebay unit fails you can opt for the name brand or go ebay again. If I was to put a turbo on say, a miata, to make 200whp I would go ebay to keep a cheap fun car cheap.

    • @jamesavery6671
      @jamesavery6671 7 років тому +1

      lol you'll just spend the same amount in the end. Just do it right the first time. You can get a nice rebuildable Precision journal bearing turbo for 700 to 1200 bucks lol. Thing is that turbo could blow first run. I don't trust Chinese metallurgy lol

  • @sixx6sixx107
    @sixx6sixx107 5 років тому +45

    Would love to see how much it makes right before blowing the engine

    • @joepaul9855
      @joepaul9855 5 років тому +3

      I would say not much more.....if done properly without block improvements

  • @gregorylankford114
    @gregorylankford114 5 років тому +4

    Steve Brule, love watching him dyno he definitely is a wealth of knowledge. Would love to see this kit put on 4.6 Ford 2 valve engine for 97-03 f150. With proper tubing setup for street and economy with say 400 hp!

  • @alexshahan4400
    @alexshahan4400 4 роки тому +16

    “Just like at home” *does it on an engine stand

  • @yaba94070
    @yaba94070 4 роки тому +3

    I’ve watched this a hand full of times over the last few years it never gets old lol

  • @upchurchforpresident8569
    @upchurchforpresident8569 5 років тому +123

    13 pounds of boost at 1000 rpm's 😂😂🤣🤣😂💀💀💀

  • @DillonTurner395
    @DillonTurner395 5 років тому +1

    The way the piping routes under the oil pan reminds me of my 3rd gen camaros exhaust piping style. Squeezes between the crossmember and the oil pan just like that.

  • @robertqueberg4612
    @robertqueberg4612 5 років тому +1

    That is darned good advice at the end. It applies to so many of the things in our lives. What you put into your brain from firsthand experience, will stay with you for a long time. There is only shame in asking the same question over numerous times. This was very interesting to me. I had a good laugh at the flow path adjustment on the right rear header tube. “Hey Buford, if’n we whack it...........” Job complete.

  • @LuideMulumba
    @LuideMulumba 7 років тому +94

    I'd like to know how much extra they spent to actually get the system to work.

    • @sigmaprojects
      @sigmaprojects 7 років тому

      That's a good question.

    • @ramairgto72
      @ramairgto72 7 років тому

      Thinking it's "Piece of Mind".
      Part M1

    • @RizoProduction
      @RizoProduction 7 років тому +3

      Well, factor in the price for either a much larger wastegate to replace the other, or just add a second one that's the same size. Factor in welding costs, if you cant do it yourself, i'd say probably $120, maybe cheaper if you take it to the right people. and the air filter.
      One thing they don't talk about is that you'll need a blow-through carb which will run you a pretty penny..
      I personally believe that if you go with the cheaper, $700 kit, and buy all the necessary items for the kit to work, and pay someone to tune the carb, and weld the pipes, it would run you near $1500-$1700, give or take a hundred or two. reason for that is the kit and the carb alone will run you near $1100 alone.

    • @jonnyjb69
      @jonnyjb69 7 років тому

      you have a magazine from the future?!? damn son

    • @atnotthiolnoy1
      @atnotthiolnoy1 7 років тому +3

      RizoProduction waste gates alone are over $100 and a tune is $450-500. plus $700 for kit. and several hundred more for boost controller, a/f ratio gauge and all the miscellaneous stuff you need.

  • @JerryWick
    @JerryWick 7 років тому +189

    I found with many things, you can either spend more money, or more time. But either way you can't get something for nothing. This was a perfect example of that fact.

    • @Clearanceman2
      @Clearanceman2 7 років тому +1

      Although sometimes amazon has car parts cheaper than advance auto after using a good coupon. Sometimes amazon has certain car parts cheaper than anyone with free two day shipping. It's because Amazon doesn't make a profit, so sometimes you can get something for nothing but not in this case.

    • @justincooper1519
      @justincooper1519 6 років тому

      Kerry Wick

    • @kevinkarbonik2928
      @kevinkarbonik2928 6 років тому +23

      I used to go to a steel fab/machine shop... they had a sign at their order desk...
      We offer 3 levels of service... fast, good and cheap... you get to choose 2.
      Fast and good = not cheap
      Cheap and good = not fast
      Cheap and fast = not good

    • @_JayRamsey_
      @_JayRamsey_ 5 років тому +2

      @@kevinkarbonik2928
      That's an awesome sign. It's kind of true for everything in life.

    • @jessicajohnnson8428
      @jessicajohnnson8428 5 років тому

      Yup well said

  • @nv707
    @nv707 5 років тому

    Awesome video guys. I'm still debating on going turbo or supercharger on my 69 nova...

  • @charlesmoore8958
    @charlesmoore8958 5 років тому +2

    I have that little Makita drill. Used it for over ten years. Highly recommend.

  • @T0m0zuki
    @T0m0zuki 7 років тому +251

    The old guy looks like Robert Duvall :)

    • @nathonsmithson3024
      @nathonsmithson3024 5 років тому +5

      yeah i think Cole trickle could hold the outside line of turn four with this turbo and super sticky tires

    • @OriginalCaptainHowdy
      @OriginalCaptainHowdy 5 років тому +17

      The “old guy” is Steve Brule. He is a legend in the dino world. Steve is a super tuner and has seen tuned almost every imaginable combinations. Listen to “the old guy” and you can learn many things grasshopper.

    • @tkolracing7420
      @tkolracing7420 5 років тому

      Yes!!! That's what I thought at first.
      Lmfao

    • @mcozpda3392
      @mcozpda3392 5 років тому +1

      TWIN BROTHER ..

    • @redartisanwolf6716
      @redartisanwolf6716 5 років тому +2

      otto

  • @dustinshort6207
    @dustinshort6207 7 років тому +38

    I'll stick to custom junk yard turbo systems

  • @zachdavis1776
    @zachdavis1776 Рік тому +1

    I was waiting for the bottom end to Grenade! So all together it needs a boost controller and a bigger waste gate or two small ones and some metal moving for spark plug clearance. All that for right around $1000….. wonder what it could do on a bone stock 5.3 with a carved intake and an edelbrok carb…??either way that motor should top out at 300-350 and it almost doubled that. Great video! We viewers need a detailed parts list please!!

  • @matthewvarnam4302
    @matthewvarnam4302 3 роки тому +2

    At 6:16 there's a bird flying around in the dyno room...how many people notice that...lol

  • @novaman3509
    @novaman3509 7 років тому +4

    Might have to buy one of these cheap turbo kits. Actually, an even smaller turbo would be nice. Running a 1985 Ram D-150, built Torqueflite 727 auto trans, Dana 80 rear end, 318 V8, ported and polished stock heads, Comp 268HE cam. 318's enjoy boost. Low compression ratio, and an overbuilt rotating assembly from the factory, with a small bore and stroke.

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 4 роки тому

      "Overbuilt" cast crank and pistons? LOL

  • @mastertek383
    @mastertek383 7 років тому +11

    I like this. A build that will fit my poor ass budget. I would really like to know how long this setup would last in a daily driver under very moderate abuse.

    • @RinHera
      @RinHera 7 років тому +2

      check out the reviews found in youtube or on the internet of the "properly" installed eBay turbos. they're pretty reliable if you dont mash it.

  • @anthonycoronado7117
    @anthonycoronado7117 7 років тому +1

    This vid is awesome. I'm doing this exact setup on my sbc but it actually has forged pistons bored over .70, Big cam,double hump heads fully rebuilt. Would like to know exactly what extra blow off valve y'all had to get to control the boost control and what regulator as well. Please get back to me asap

  • @michaelnelson7305
    @michaelnelson7305 5 років тому +1

    Nice video guys, I would like to know more about the carb size, jets, power valve?, pressure to the carb bowls, ignition timing and fuel used.... thanks

  • @cincinnatislider
    @cincinnatislider 5 років тому +10

    “Set to kill” makes perfect sense.

  • @loudbutslow_z2853
    @loudbutslow_z2853 7 років тому +80

    Do one about an ls engine, like a junkyard 5.3 or 5.7

    • @tbird9mm
      @tbird9mm 5 років тому +11

      I saw one where they boosted the pressure to 32.5 psi on a junk yard 5.3 LS . They got to 1500 hp before the thing blew up!!!

    • @GnarshredProductions
      @GnarshredProductions 5 років тому +8

      im gonna use a junkyard 350 2 bolt main in an ebay twin turbo project and see what the limit is as i haven't seen anyone really try to blow it up yet and see how far it can be pushed. some headstud's and main studs half fill the water jacket with cement open up the ring gap a bunch so its loose as a goose and gonna throw 20+psi boost at it on e85 and see wtf happens lol.

    • @matthewchamberlain1205
      @matthewchamberlain1205 5 років тому +23

      @@GnarshredProductions no youre not

    • @dr.dylansgame5583
      @dr.dylansgame5583 5 років тому +2

      @@matthewchamberlain1205 why would you say hes not going to when a monkey can throw a wrench at a engine and blow it up its not like what hes doing isnt unrealistic or not happened many times before hand

    • @Shade_tree_garage01
      @Shade_tree_garage01 4 роки тому +2

      And here are the losing streak fanboys

  • @tiagonestiago
    @tiagonestiago 7 років тому +3

    I would like to see the final dyno chart if possible please. Thank you.

  • @winstonsmith9067
    @winstonsmith9067 5 років тому +4

    Very informative, think I will be using tried and proven sets and leaving the mystery builds to the stunt men.

  • @teds4983
    @teds4983 7 років тому +7

    Damn makes me want to buy this kit now. Thats some great numbers for a old 305 👍

  • @MistrMcGill
    @MistrMcGill 7 років тому +44

    You pay for convenience. If the company took all the guesswork and welding needed out of this setup, it'd be most likely 3 to 4 times as much...good video and good job.

    • @dcinhere
      @dcinhere 7 років тому +9

      YEP! Especially if its a specifically designed direct bolt on for specific make, model, and year.

    • @Jester123ish
      @Jester123ish 7 років тому +22

      Or, if they fixed some relatively simple issues, they'd sell 3 to 4 times as many.

    • @carlosnegravy4956
      @carlosnegravy4956 7 років тому +5

      I agree! These are not for the weekend warriors. If your tool box consists of a screwdriver, hammer and an adjustable wrench stay away.

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 4 роки тому

      @@Jester123ish You don't get it, kid. If they "fixed some relatively simple issues", the price goes up. This is capitalism. Period.

  • @MrRebustr
    @MrRebustr 2 роки тому

    My dad gave me his old 1988 caprice with a stock 350 motor he maintain almost daily for 25 + years and when i got it car had barely 35k miles on it since pops worked from home and was more of a family town car ...first i rebuilt the engine my self top to bottom nothing was spared ...then i added bullet proof parts basically and the correct set up for procharger that was fun then i decided to add a huge turbo and some beautiful custom heads / manifolds and full exhaust to compliment the build and the car ...i didnt want it sound like a hood box chevy..i wanted it to sound like a Chevrolet 9c1 police intercetor that it was born to be ....i love america and its many American cars ....this one fits me like a glove....i also have a 1984 Fleetwood brougham de' elegance 4dr with same exact build.....beautiful Cadillac.........i love america

  • @brianporcello9516
    @brianporcello9516 3 роки тому +1

    This is amazing!!! That was ridiculous. I have a 350 crate that puts 330hp stock. I can't imagine how amazing my car would be with this.

  • @harwoods11
    @harwoods11 5 років тому +162

    Seven hundred dollar turbo kit and fifteen grand worth of specialist labour to make it run properly!!!

    • @andrewerickson6690
      @andrewerickson6690 5 років тому +34

      Oh for fucksake man they just did it for us now just cut and paste the idea into your rig boom there you go

    • @rexleehe7633
      @rexleehe7633 5 років тому +10

      If you do proper research you can easily do it or go to forums if you have trouble and it's easy, you won't have to pay for prefessional help

    • @tommyhajimoto6968
      @tommyhajimoto6968 4 роки тому +3

      It's like they're trying to debunk the electric supercharger lol

    • @stevemitchell2252
      @stevemitchell2252 4 роки тому +6

      Nowhere near worth 15 grand worth of Labor

    • @jrodzilla24
      @jrodzilla24 4 роки тому +2

      Maybe 1000 labour

  • @jacoblockwood2130
    @jacoblockwood2130 7 років тому +8

    YES!!!!! Please do more videos like this!!!

  • @genatorbol
    @genatorbol 7 років тому +1

    I plasti-dipped this kit. It looks so good with all the backwards piping....in stuff

  • @brandontomalewski8277
    @brandontomalewski8277 6 років тому +1

    I have a 2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 L I am very interested in looking to do a kit like this all my truck but from seeing what you guys did in here and what you guys said is there any way you would be able to respond with the list of what I would need to change in the kit in order to make a function on my truck without blowing it up I would greatly appreciate it you guys are awesome and I love watching you please help me out thank you

  • @grecoconduris6716
    @grecoconduris6716 7 років тому +15

    Steve and Westech are all over UA-cam, lov'n it.

  • @sethh8892
    @sethh8892 3 роки тому +6

    "were going to build it like everyone else does" on that couple thousand dollar dyno?

  • @thebassplaya34
    @thebassplaya34 Рік тому

    It's the torque that gets my attention. A mildly built vortec headed three fifty and one of these kits with some good fabrication and you could have some real fun.

  • @Mitchd03
    @Mitchd03 5 років тому +2

    If you dont run a boost controller you still need to connect the wastegate to boost pressure.
    Wastegate spring pressure means that if you fit a boost reference line to the top without a controller, the wastegate will open when it reaches that spring pressure.
    If you dont fit a boost reference, it thinks you're at 0 boost and stays shut.

  • @idriwzrd
    @idriwzrd 7 років тому +3

    This is good stuff, Hot Rod. Keep it up!

  • @crysiscontained4421
    @crysiscontained4421 7 років тому +42

    I say if you want to buy a cheap turbo buy a cheap turbo take it to a diesel or performance shop and have them digitally balance the inducer and turbine as well as inspect the oil and water seals(if it uses water) that way you should be able to get years of use out of it instead of the possibility of it grenade-ing then just source your other parts elsewhere

    • @zerohourdrift
      @zerohourdrift 5 років тому +3

      Crysis Contained or pick up a used holset turbo for a hundred bucks and replace the ebay turbo and use the rest of the kit

    • @yolofullsend
      @yolofullsend 5 років тому +4

      My Ebay turbos surviving 2 years and counting

  • @ChrisHarmon1
    @ChrisHarmon1 5 років тому

    I built a DIY kit from ebay parts back in 2009 or so for my Lexus GS300. I easily hit 500hp on 100% methanol injection and did everything except 1 exhaust weld off the downpipe in my friends driveway. Total cost was around $1,000 including the turbo which was far cheaper than Supra stores "cheap" turbo kit which I modeled mine on.

  • @dennispresnell64
    @dennispresnell64 5 років тому +1

    I think the boost built so quick and high mainly because the stock heads aren't flowing as well as a set of performance heads/ ported and polished etc. The measurement of boost psi is the resistance to flow. A better setup would flow a lot better and you wouldn't see such a boost spike. But is what it is for what it is.

  • @B4Ctom1
    @B4Ctom1 7 років тому +30

    The hot side parts of this kit are a clone of a hot side kit originally sold by a company called BBS Designs. It is made to fit the 3rd generation F-Bodies. It was based on a custom passenger side manifold (which is why the flange on that side is so square/homemade looking) and a cheaper "shorty" driver side header from ebay/pacesetter/whatever which is why that side looks like a real aftermarket part. The crossover is in the same place where all the late 70's through 90's RWD SBC single exhaust cars have had it. Right between the oil pan and the cross member. Because it is made to fit the odd packaging for factory 3rd gen F-Bodies, with a few small compromises, it is not generally good as a "universal" SBC. Even in a 3rd gen F-Body it required plenty of fitment modification. I am a sort of third gen historian. Others know this stuff too, but there are less and less of us left all the time. Now you have the information.

    • @HonkeTonk
      @HonkeTonk 6 років тому

      This kit will not fit third gen f body. The passenger header puts the turbo right into the strut tower, been there on an 87 iroc

    • @SupremeKai_Omniverse
      @SupremeKai_Omniverse 5 років тому +1

      Since Your A 3rd Gen Historian What Is A Good Turbo Kit To Go An 350 That Would Fit In A 3rd Gen. Im Heavily Thinking About It. An Single Or Dual

    • @gregorylankford114
      @gregorylankford114 5 років тому +1

      Why did the put the exhaust side of the turbo going towards the front of the engine? Wouldn't it have worked better real world if they had turned it 180° towards the rear with a ram air type setup coming from the front of vehicle engine to feed intake side?

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 Рік тому

      B4Ctom1,
      There used to be a similar kit for square body trucks... That's what I'm looking for. Does anyone make one for that application?

  • @kdsboosted4954
    @kdsboosted4954 3 роки тому +4

    I have the same setup on a tpi system works great. I made a short 5" extension to deal with the exhaust clearence issues added a second $25 waste gate. And she'll push 20 psi all day long.

    • @wesleygreen6541
      @wesleygreen6541 2 роки тому

      Do you have a 5.7? Looking for a kit for mine.

    • @kdsboosted4954
      @kdsboosted4954 2 роки тому

      @@wesleygreen6541 I have a 5.0, a 5.7, and a couple turbo bbc's. What vehicle are you working with?

    • @wesleygreen6541
      @wesleygreen6541 2 роки тому

      @@kdsboosted4954 im gonna single turbo my Suburban And more than likely double my Titan cause theres no room under the hood.

    • @kdsboosted4954
      @kdsboosted4954 2 роки тому

      @@wesleygreen6541 I had the kit in the video in an 85 suburban worked well. I didn't like the headers I had angled spark plugs so it was ok except cylinder 6 & 8 were a pain. I had to massage the header and make a special wrench for said cylinders. If you have straight plugs it may be difficult. I would put a kit together from optimal components. A decent pair of twin turbo headers a turbo a couple 38 ish mm wastegates a bov manual boost control is a good start with exception of tuning. Are you efi or carbureted? As far as the titan run the turbos in place of the mufflers.

  • @happytimes724
    @happytimes724 6 років тому

    Thank you for buying that turbo kit and putting it on a regular motor. Not all of us can afford Forged this and that plus name brand turbo system. It's fun to truly hot rod your ride over the weekend and just have fun driving the crap out of the car. Some people just think every build is going to be show car caliber. Not me 😂.

  • @edwinstorz702
    @edwinstorz702 7 років тому

    Another question i was looking to be answered was, how long would the Turbo hold up, Turbos are really bad about shredding bearings or the Boost falls off because of Vein wear.
    Anyway, Y'all done a good job of showing just what to expect, Blowing up your Engine because of Boost Control is not good, again, THANK YOU!

  • @barryfields2964
    @barryfields2964 7 років тому +6

    You got it to work on the Dino but I would now like to see you put that in a car

    • @johnbeck3903
      @johnbeck3903 4 роки тому

      Original under hood typhoon V6

  • @ramairgto72
    @ramairgto72 7 років тому +4

    Don't know about you guys,
    but I think I will pony up the extra green for something that fits a little better.
    CRX Racing comes to mind.

  • @a3970010
    @a3970010 5 років тому +2

    Sounds like it'd be a better idea to piece a kit together yourself using a pair of low mileage WRX turbos as they have oil & water plumbed to them and are often sold cheap because the owner upgraded. They're intended for an engine that is 2.5 L at most each. Buy some generic intercooler piping in the proper size on eBay or Amazon. Buy a digital boost controller and a air/water intercooler OR a couple of used stock WRX intercoolers...also prone to being cheap as most swap them out for larger and have a space for a BOV...once again use a factory Subaru BOV as it bolts right on. Get a couple of bell-mouth down pipes and cut them to fit, maybe use a stainless exhaust coupler to join it up to the 3" exhaust. It would work well with a cheap Holley TBI kit that is user tuneable but use a boost referenced fuel pressure regular. Finally make sure to get a set of gauges to monitor your boost and fuel/air ratio. The aftermarket downpipe will be likely equipped with a wideband O2 bung for this. You'll have to come up with headers and flanges that will mate to the turbos and you'll be able to use the carb hat they showed BUT it'll be reliable and inexpensive as those turbos if cared for will go 200k miles or more. You WILL have to work for it a bit but no more than you would if you bought a cheap China kit. This is how I'd do it...on a budget with parts that I know work.

    • @oldleatherhandsfriends4053
      @oldleatherhandsfriends4053 10 місяців тому

      Plan on doing this essentially on my 4.8, if it doesn't work I have an HX52 as backup.

  • @jacobcollins993
    @jacobcollins993 7 років тому

    Very well made video! In depth on the kit as well

  • @whatyareckon5985
    @whatyareckon5985 7 років тому +76

    They have the manifolds on the wrong sides. Surely if they could weld an extra wastegate on thay could mod the crossover pipe to clear the engine dyno mount.

    • @mikefelty2625
      @mikefelty2625 7 років тому +8

      I was thinking the same thing until about 10 minutes in, when Jim from Westech explains that they had to put them on the wrong way because of clearance issues. It was apparently the only way to make it work without a lot more improvised fab work is what I'm thinking.

    • @drexauto1307
      @drexauto1307 7 років тому +4

      I'd be willing to bet it was originally designed for a RHD application where the brake booster would have been on the other side.

    • @markrich3271
      @markrich3271 7 років тому +1

      Its designed for a 3rd gen camro . turbos on the correct side but backwads. It fits the other way .

    • @sethscofield1922
      @sethscofield1922 7 років тому

      What is the kits name? I have a 89 Rs camao im debating starting this project on. turbo the sbc 350 or put good pistons cam and head work on it and aim for 400 hp NA

    • @whatyareckon5985
      @whatyareckon5985 7 років тому

      www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-SMALL-BLOCK-SB-CHEVY-GT45-SINGLE-TURBO-SETUP-MANIFOLD-KIT-WASTEGATE-OIL-LINE-/201106684031?hash=item2ed2e4787f:g:2asAAOSwmUdUWYMU&vxp=mtr

  • @Mrnicguy00
    @Mrnicguy00 7 років тому +4

    I bet this kit was designed for a right hand drive vehicle. It came from Asia on the cheap. Sounds logical to me. The exhaust would have been routed properly and not be interfering with the steering or brake systems.

  • @mikepags
    @mikepags 6 років тому

    Great video guys! No goofy stuff and it was real obvious that you are all professionals.

  • @frshswagg6200
    @frshswagg6200 5 років тому

    I’m definitely coming to you guys for an installment if I take my car on that route

  • @andysan9557
    @andysan9557 5 років тому +10

    A cast crank going over 600 ftlb and 500 hp is kind of scarry

    • @racingginger3147
      @racingginger3147 5 років тому +1

      to you lol thats the beauty of cars, its all your opinion.

    • @destainn
      @destainn 5 років тому +1

      We make that all day with 4 cyl blocks I would hope a v8 could handle that much.

  • @BlueRice
    @BlueRice 5 років тому +4

    the fly that flew infront of the camera - i thought it was in my room

  • @BuildThreadsNorway
    @BuildThreadsNorway 6 років тому

    So do these kits require some better fuel supply or lower compression to actually work?

    • @EvPerk
      @EvPerk 6 років тому

      Better fuel and carefully monitored boost levels and ignition timing are the minimum.

  • @soyeldiego4878
    @soyeldiego4878 5 років тому

    That cool old cat Steve Brule looks like Robert Duvall’s twin brother. Cool video by the way. Totally amazing how much HP and torque it put out after some major modifications.

  • @crispyjrisme
    @crispyjrisme 5 років тому +4

    twin turbo set up ?????
    im getting ideas here

  • @mewyattt
    @mewyattt 7 років тому +9

    6:16 fly by

  • @cRazyfRictioN-dRift
    @cRazyfRictioN-dRift 6 років тому +1

    The blow off valve adapter is a smaller size because it should go on the hot side of the turbo system. You want a smaller diameter pipe directly after the turbo and gradually step it up to the intercooler. After the intercooler you want your 3 inch .

  • @Drobert882
    @Drobert882 Рік тому

    Hay thanks for the vid I'm impressed ; been evaluating a boost system for my 02 GMC 2500 4x4 because I pull weight with it most of the time this vid was very interesting

  • @JustAnotherHappyGuy
    @JustAnotherHappyGuy 5 років тому +4

    "Once we got it running, it was actually kind of fun" hahaha boost has that effect on people!

  • @NSCA12
    @NSCA12 7 років тому +3

    Why couldn't the turbo be turned forward with the compressor housing clocked or am I missing something?

  • @theq4602
    @theq4602 5 років тому

    Aight
    Looks like I'll need to buy two of these for my Cad 500 build. One for each bank.

  • @ballbuster1831
    @ballbuster1831 5 років тому

    hell i barely got the motor in itself , i couldnt imagine pulling it out again and adding all this pipe and it actually fitting under my square body hood but damn id love tf out of this type of upgrade..

  • @greywolf1
    @greywolf1 5 років тому +25

    Now, show how this is installed in the truck. The way you have it shown in the video, it would never fit.

    • @Shade_tree_garage01
      @Shade_tree_garage01 4 роки тому

      Lookup Fuel injection sucks he installed one in his 78 Chevy C10 with a stock truck motor, stock intake etc etc

  • @damonm7220
    @damonm7220 7 років тому +22

    I feel like I've watched this before

    • @HeadlineNews
      @HeadlineNews 7 років тому +12

      It aired during a cleanup break during Drag Week. Cant remember which day.. 3, I think.

    • @damonm7220
      @damonm7220 7 років тому

      Yea that was it thanks for letting me know

  • @markvanhorn2044
    @markvanhorn2044 7 років тому

    Did you have a blow through carb? what did you set your timing at and did you have to pull timing as boost went up ? if so what did you do it with?

  • @siskens470
    @siskens470 6 років тому

    I just can't get enough of videos like this!

  • @robertclymer6948
    @robertclymer6948 3 роки тому +3

    This was a fun video to watch, these guys are real life MacGyvers. I doubt most of us weekend backyard mechanics/hotrodders could pull this off. You get what you pay for like Steve said.

  • @stephenmwyatt2
    @stephenmwyatt2 5 років тому +3

    the restriction you talked about could indeed help

  • @stevenarseneault1972
    @stevenarseneault1972 5 років тому +1

    I was waiting for that senior technician to say "Like a streamline butterfly"

  • @MattBerrymotorsport
    @MattBerrymotorsport 5 років тому

    very informative video!! well done guys

  • @CC-ug3ld
    @CC-ug3ld 4 роки тому +4

    So this is what Robert Duvall is doing after Days of thunder. 😄😂😂😂

  • @BlakesGarage
    @BlakesGarage 7 років тому +479

    What if the headers were just on the wrong side?

    • @jessy6464
      @jessy6464 7 років тому +79

      he said it at the end that the turbo would be on the brake booster!!

    • @BlakesGarage
      @BlakesGarage 7 років тому +156

      jessy6464 I don't see a brake booster in the dyno room LOL.

    • @jessy6464
      @jessy6464 7 років тому +53

      no really!! they did this test for people that wanted an ebay turbo kit!! so if the turbo was on the drivers side it would be on the brake booster and the crossover pipe would be hitti g the crossmember!!

    • @darrenkemp8527
      @darrenkemp8527 6 років тому +4

      jessy6464

    • @RMonkey
      @RMonkey 6 років тому +44

      you are right, it seems like they wanted to prove it was a piece of shit, and went ahead and did that. even though it seems like a good kit.

  • @jimsmirh2406
    @jimsmirh2406 2 роки тому

    Damn good little setup right there. I think I may do that for my 4.3 V6 and run e85 and do away with the intercooler.

  • @foustfamily6626
    @foustfamily6626 5 років тому

    I bought the twin turbo kit for my mustang and there is literally 1 inch between turbo on driver's side and the master cylinder. That's before downpipe which would never fit. Also passenger side I had to make an adapter. Finally got fed up and just put a nitrous kit. Not to mention took 3 hours to mount headers. Bought set of bbk and had them on in 20 minutes literally.

  • @ziggassedup
    @ziggassedup 7 років тому +5

    Entry level explosion.

  • @butt5810
    @butt5810 7 років тому +32

    Dude looks stoned af

  • @lanceopperude5868
    @lanceopperude5868 5 років тому

    What a GREAT video guys....ABSOLUTELY loved it. Real world videos. Many thanks to you guys!!!

  • @pascalchauvet4230
    @pascalchauvet4230 7 років тому

    The turbo kit might be a little crappy but the fly humming around at 6.16 is priceless :)

  • @AdamOpheim
    @AdamOpheim 7 років тому +3

    The wastegate placement is the issue, not the gate size. That 38mm gate can easily regulate boost down far enough to be at safe levels. Done it many times on LS engines that flow more. Gate feed needs to be perpendicular to flow. The kits WG placement and your added WG is at a 90* angle to flow...that's horrible placement.

    • @beezy7412
      @beezy7412 7 років тому

      really? hmm.. i didnt know this. and ive had plenty of straight 6 engines that were turboed..

    • @winibaldcroux8339
      @winibaldcroux8339 6 років тому +4

      Isn't a 90 degree angle perpendicular?

  • @raiderbigboy75
    @raiderbigboy75 7 років тому +58

    Yeah but how much was that blow through carb?

    • @donaldcrites7504
      @donaldcrites7504 7 років тому +13

      you can modify a conventional carb to use in blow through applications. its a lot cheaper.

    • @unlisted9494
      @unlisted9494 7 років тому

      Sure, you can modify a conventional carb, but it works like shit. LOTS of turbulence and lost power potential.

    • @carlosnegravy4956
      @carlosnegravy4956 7 років тому +8

      Before youtube and online tutorials existed there were talented wrenchers and urban engineers.
      The Holley double pumper shown in this video with the correct mods make great Blow through carbs on the cheap. And when set up properly they are reliable. Tell me about this turbulence lol?

    • @thagiffted1
      @thagiffted1 7 років тому +1

      _ Gross more than the entire kit😂😂

    • @starbattles1
      @starbattles1 7 років тому +7

      That was NOT a blow through carb. Nor did they have vacuum lines and check valves and pcv ran correctly for a turbo set up. THAT is why they got oil everywhere. Demon blow through carb will run you $650

  • @lubrifrenoselcondadoss3942
    @lubrifrenoselcondadoss3942 5 років тому

    excellent .... friend i have a question please ... how many pounds did you use in the last test? If it is a stock sbc, how many pounds can it support?

  • @106010000
    @106010000 6 років тому

    How/what did you use for the distributer? Did uou lock it out or keep the vaccum advance? This is the what im having trouble with and i cant seem to find anything that helps me out