Jin's harder than reina but you need to eventually learn all of Reina's hard stuff to play well. Jin can win game without utilizing any of his hard execution moves
I hate how they watered down every character in this game, made the majority cast rush down 50/50s there’s no more individuality anymore they sold out to appeal to scrubs I don’t see my self playing this game for 10 years lol the “ I let my meat swing back and forth” gameplay isn’t it
@@fightinggm I noticed that you used to the word easier on the entire cast damn near, that just tells you the direction is going in, there won’t even be any just frames by tekken 9
Disagree with Devil Jin being easier than ever, imo T7 pre nerfs was by far the easiest. He has a lot of panic scrub moves but those dont make ip for the loss of UF4
My dumbass who never played a tekken game before and only tried street fighter a few months before decides to pick one of the hardest characters, Lee, in an in-depth 3D fighting game 💀 well he’s tons of fun after the learning curve and I don’t regret it at all and hey I wouldn’t have discovered this channel without those amazing Lee guides 😅
imo lee is a good character to learn the game with the beginning its pretty hard but he teaches the game rly well and its also relatively easy to pickup other characters later when starting with lee
yeah i just found out about u. Even tho im not a lee enjoyer u are the type of person who is entertaining AND very wise when it comes to explaining or trying to give us a vision. U a real one GM neva change fam
Great video man, look forward to your breakdown of Heihachi when he drops. You have a really good understanding of the game and all of the characters in it.
Bro I'm really struggling with mastering Lee, could you make a guide that goes into proper detail about the mist step cancel and safe neutral gameplay. Would really appreciate it dawg🙏😭
Bro, it would be amazing if you made a video series of how us scrubs can actually get better at playing neutral since you mentioned half these chars require a solid one.
I think saying bryan is easy is controversial. I agree he doesn't have high execution but he relies alot on good defence and getting information on your opponent. Also he really struggles vs characters that are perma in your face , with lee for example you can do the 444 string to get out of trouble.
Nice one GM, I just want to give you a bit constructive tips, no criticize or mean word to you my best Lee. I remember when I was a newcomer to TEKKEN and learn the game, of course I have to choose 1 character to play, but most of TEKKEN channel mentioned about character specific stuff, I don’t even know most of what they’re saying. So I think it’s best just demonstrate some of the moves for them to see what you’re talking about. Some of them just want to know some character overall strength and weakness before they dive in, but they don’t even understand the notation, fighting game word or character’s stance, etc. Since you made it for Newcomer, I think this is what they wonder the most, even they hear what you are saying, I don’t think they understand most of the stuff (visualize). For example: Newcomer will not understand what’s electric means when you mentioned about Mishima stuff, what’s taunt jet uppercut, etc. Hope you always have a great day my man.
My scene got some mad hard players to beat(Ltrain,dtownsking,kjstyles,azurebokeh and them in SE michigan). And you right, fighting them with azucena is hard as hell in ft2/3 settings. Her poke game is my exact complaint not the wr3-2. Im mid switch to lili, shes literally better azu. In every form of the word to me. I love hearing peeps opinions on characters when its just neutral thoughts like this. good stuff fam.
"easiest devil jin has ever been, not hard to play, so easy to pick up and play" "they made kazuya easier to play, thats why every scrub can hit electrics" "kazuya is really easy, his mixup game is easy, his overall gameplan is easy" "bryan is not hard to use at all, you will not struggle with him at all. when it comes to difficulty wise, you will not struggle with him." "ling's pretty hard tho, and nina's one of the hardest characters in the game" right, got it.
I agree that Law is very easy to play for beginners and easy rank up character in low level. Once you reach intermediate to advanced tekken, that's when you suddenly realize his strings are unsafe. Even his slide have to be done sparingly. A good player will parry junkyard, block punish b 122, duck the end of b43 and 3+44. Suddenly the game changes to where you now have to become a sweaty gamer and work hard for a win.
So glad we you're not defaulting to saying "Bryan is hard", he's the easiest he's ever been with a simple gameplan, its just hard to consistently win with him sometimes lol
shaheen reminds me of like a bootleg ryu or kazuya. he has easy routes but his best combos require multiple stance cancels. his while standing 3 loops are very very hard imo. he is basically tekken fundamentals. i like where he is at not too strong not too weak.
Good video! New to Tekken. had to drop Lee cause the journey to learning him was too hard for me so I picked up Asuka and felt like I picked her up way quicker
This guy: "yoshi is hard to play but he's good once you know how". That's how it's supposed to be my dude, it should be hard to use character's but you should be rewarded for doing so. I have a 42% win rate in quick play to show for all the ass whoopings I had to take to get where I am with yoshi, almost 560 hours with him. I'm a kishin and I only now feel comfortable playing against tekken kings and up.
Again this video is for complete newbies. I feel like dudes don't watch or listen to videos and and don't even read the title. It says new to tekken 8. Not are u a master od tekken 8 lmaoooo
sidewalking is an understatement,, you can micro step a lot of his flamingo pressure,, so much option selection with defense against him & yeah,, he's good in heat to an extent because you really only have 1 or 2 chances @ the most to capitalize off his heat mixups. that shit expires extremely quick
As a Paul main I thought you were spot on. His combo execution is fairly simple compared to others and he has good damage. But his poking is weak playing Paul at ranks higher then fujin is hard he really is honest. But he definitely makes you better all I’m trying to do now with Paul is get my defense better and get better fundamentals
As a tekken king lili main on my channel and playing her years. Doing her dew glide cancel multiple times in a combo I can tell you is not easy. I would go as far to say learning the ewgf is easier to do. Just sucks how she is nerfed too much last patch. A lot of stuff she does now is unsafe even if strings get blocked is launch punishable in comparison to most of the cast :/
the fact u say reina is the easiest mishima to play just shows you have no idea what you are talking about. have u even watched high level reina gameplay once? i dare you to replicate even a fraction of what they do and still say shes easy
@@fightinggmGo and play her see how far spamming the incredibly easily side steppable Raiden gets you. Just go and watch anyone above Bushin play Reina. Reina is the hardest not the easiest Mishima.
Asuka ain't easy, her higher damage Combos require side steps and prrfect spacing. She needs to play a lot of mind games due to her tool set like having Negative Frame Jabs.. not recommnend for Beginners she quickly becomes hard in higher ranks.
He said "to play" not "to win with". Good and Easy are different things. Yoshi is clearly top 5 but he still has an extremely long move list and a lot of inputs.
Tekken 7 he was referred to as a male, and in Germany leo is a more masculine name. Maybe hes js not as built as the rest of the male cast, kinda like noctis
Imo there's a picked character bias about Lee. He is not hard, I tried him in t7 but don't really like him in t8, mostly because of his bad sidesteps. Combos, wall pressure are not hard to get going for him and you can snowball ranked with Lee, I've seen so many carried bad players. Not saying he's easy, but hard? No. More like a bit above average. I picked Shaheen in Tekken 7, he is easy but certainly has some stuff that hard to master.
you can snowball with any character in this game as well as enforce wall pressure with any character, aggressiveness is literally the most notable thing every character has in tekken 8, if anything lee lacks pressure in the most pressure oriented tekken game. lee is easily top 5 most difficult characters in this game to use efficiently, not much has changed with lee from t7 to t8 besides b3,3 being natural, the whole community exaggerates about him being sm easier and stronger cus he’s rlly not
Every character has a "picked character bias" and you can also snowball ranked with every character, Lee is a hard character to play against ppl, and while characters like Shaheen have good heat gimmicks like guard breaks and all that, Lee only has ff3 in heat, and besides that his heat sucks, Lee is a pretty difficult character to master
Guys that's what's called downplaying at its finest. You can't convince me that a character who can kill you in one full crouch mixup is a difficult one. Not gonna discuss his other powerful stuff like 10 fr ch wallsplat into like 70% combo, his acid rain punishment etc, he's just very stacked with strong tools for every situation, his running move and 1+2 is by itself a very strong offensive tool. Is he weaker than Shaheen? I suppose. Harder? Maybe a tiny bit but they are both neutral based characters with slide and full crouch game, Lee has much more damage and crazy ff3 and other stuff, but his slide is weaker, movement is worse. Is Lee more difficult? Not that much imo, mist steps cancels are not even comparable in difficulty with snk cancels, I tried both. Many characters in that game were dumbed down and I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing. Bad thing is that people are downplaying their mains. Be based and tell everyone that your character ia broken, don't play like you're poor Lee mains and working so unbelievably hard to get so little in return. Shaheen is very strong and in some situation he can feel unfair and that's alright, and the same goes to Lee or any other character.
🤣 🤣 🤣 dude said kill you on one crouch mix up. U do know slide and ws23 have zero tracking? Also lees slide is launch publishable. Also lees running move has zero tracking and he has to go into hms for more plus and still has to guess on block cause his fastest buttons are both jabs that can be parried. Shaheen has a unreactable gaurd break in heat, a knock down slide that's faster then lees, a ws1 into ch counter hit confirm, a safer plus frame d3, a jumping mid plus frame dive that can cancel into slide etc. Also law has a ten frame ch launcher in heat, a safe mid launcher in heat and also a knockdown slide. Please actually learn and study the game before saying anyone is downplaying any character. I didn't say lee was bad in this video. I just said he's the hardest slide character to use in the game
@@fightinggm what a confirmation of what I've just said. Downplaying at its finest. C'mon man, be better than that. I can explain that everything you said is bullshit but there's no reason to do that as you'll downplay it to the ground no matter what arguments I'll give. So yeah, it's nice that you mocked me for no reason and then proved my point of downplaying.
Xiaoyu is not really hard to use. In T8, related to the system, she’s just a relatively terrible character. Now that the game is string heavy with heat smashes and RA, it’s easier to catch her sleeping. Her design is not good for T8.
@@fightinggm what are you talking about you said kazuya has been dumbed down and thats why people play him like scrubs. While basically saying every other Mishima are essentially easier. DJ, the only thing you have right about DJ is that he was nerfed. Nothing else about him is easy, especially if you're talking to new players getting into the game.
@@sidonceagainWhatever he said about steve is what applies to Bryan , and he said Steve is hard you have to have good fundamentals and timing, thats what Bryan is about and he is slower than Steve i dont know why people try to make Bryan cheap easy character, Yesterday i fought an emperor king and he said Bryan is easy cheap and he picked Bryan to disrespect me , he got his ass kicked and left without saying anything, i think people overstimate Bryan as a character its the people who play him make him work.
I smell bias on this one….. Lee is on the same level as Shaheen and Law. If you already have strong neutral/poke game, those characters are pretty easy. Lee’s just frames all seem easier in this game as well I think Steve is hands down the hardest.
I can tell you don't play any of the characters for u to even say this. Lee is no where near the same level as law and shaheen. Lee just frames are easier when u are in heat cause it automatically is a just frame in heat smh
@@fightinggmnah bruh. I’m not a Tekken legend like you, but I play all characters. Lee’s just frame windows feel way more generous in this game. Just frames aside, Lee and those other characters have a very solid poke game
@@jimdino77 In general, Lee is very hard, in fact, if your main argument is that the just frames are easier in this game for lee, then every character are easier to play, that makes no sense, i mean, kazuya is hard bcuz his execution, but in heat, u can spam perfect electric, that doesnt make kazuya easy as other characters. Also, mostly depends on wich game are u coming from , for example, kazuya was waaay more easier for me, i struggled more with lee, i guess that was bcuz i came from KOF , so overall for me , the learning curve with lee was longer, that's why iam a lee main. Regards
@@alamarana6961 i said, "Lee’s just frames all seem easier in this game as well"... meaning that was a side point, not the main point... re-read the sentence before that. Never mentioned Heat either. Its not just the electrics that make Kazuya difficult, its the fact he has no other 15f launch so you are forced to use electric as a punish instead of a generic df2 or hopkick. Steve doesn't have the same execution barriers, but he has way more restrictions. Lee has more execution opportunities, but he is nowhere as restricted as Steve or Kazuya. And I'm speaking from my own experience. I use to opt out of doing Acid Raid in T7 because my execution was lacking. That has changed in T8, and I didn't suddenly become a better Lee player out of nowhere..... if Lee is "very hard", that means im pretty solid with a difficult character. I wont keep arguing against that
wtf are you on about? reina easiest mishima? are you on drugs?😂 jin and kaz press down 2 and get a full launch, what does reina do? counter hit hellsweep for oki? are you high?
@@NM-rj4gk Every character have the same number of buttons??? What are you even on? Go on play Bryan and grind, you'll get the idea soon that it's hard.
@@Solsticeuh has the same number of buttons??? Are u special? I used to main Bryan I’m saying he only needs like 6 moves from his entire moves list to be useful, the gameplan is spam b1 and 3+4 until they accidentally press a button and lose 60%
(Alphabetical Order)👍
21:44 Alisa
14:04 Asuka
08:36 Azucena
25:40 Bryan
01:45 Claudio
23:09 Devil Jin
25:17 Dragunov
00:24 Eddy
19:30 Feng
19:01 Hwoarang
23:45 Jack-8
16:49 Jin
22:46 Jun
17:23 Kazuya
24:15 King
20:50 Kuma
22:23 Lars
10:40 Law
14:53 Lee
12:30 Leo
11:33 Leroy
13:03 Lidia
21:29 Lili
18:23 Nina
13:42 Panda
04:12 Paul
05:43 Raven
07:50 Reina
09:40 Shaheen
24:49 Steve
07:02 Victor
15:52 Xiayou
20:11 Yoshimitsu
02:53 Zafina
Thank you for taking the time 😅
@@wonderman7166 no problem💪
I definitely wouldn't say that Reina is the easiest Mishima to play, dumbed down Jin takes that crown.
Reina is the easiest mishima simply because Jin isn't one. He barely even plays tekken at this point.
Jin isn’t really a Mishima tbh
If its between kazuya and reina, kaz is harder, we'll see about heihachi
Jin's harder than reina but you need to eventually learn all of Reina's hard stuff to play well. Jin can win game without utilizing any of his hard execution moves
This is the New Yorkest fighting game breakdown I've ever seen. It makes me miss the city.
🤣 🤣 🤣 let's get it
I hate how they watered down every character in this game, made the majority cast rush down 50/50s there’s no more individuality anymore they sold out to appeal to scrubs I don’t see my self playing this game for 10 years lol the “ I let my meat swing back and forth” gameplay isn’t it
Yea man that's what tekken 8 is. Take our meat out or lose
@@fightinggm I noticed that you used to the word easier on the entire cast damn near, that just tells you the direction is going in, there won’t even be any just frames by tekken 9
You triggering all these guys who think their mains are the hardest 😂
I figured I would lmak
Disagree with Devil Jin being easier than ever, imo T7 pre nerfs was by far the easiest. He has a lot of panic scrub moves but those dont make ip for the loss of UF4
trash df2 doo doo samsara and his hellsweep is kinda trash compared to t7. can you even call b3 a panic move if your not in heat.
Bro must be talking about purple ranks. Ain’t no way he thinks dvj is easy in competitive ranks.
He is easy to play but hard to win with, I agree with him tbh
The cheapest character right now is Jin, he needs to be nerfed alongside Dragunov
My dumbass who never played a tekken game before and only tried street fighter a few months before decides to pick one of the hardest characters, Lee, in an in-depth 3D fighting game 💀 well he’s tons of fun after the learning curve and I don’t regret it at all and hey I wouldn’t have discovered this channel without those amazing Lee guides 😅
If you can get his optimal combos down you will be fine playing Lee imo
Lee is not hard lot of moves that cab get u pass low ranks
imo lee is a good character to learn the game with the beginning its pretty hard but he teaches the game rly well and its also relatively easy to pickup other characters later when starting with lee
yeah i just found out about u. Even tho im not a lee enjoyer u are the type of person who is entertaining AND very wise when it comes to explaining or trying to give us a vision.
U a real one GM neva change fam
Thanks bro I really appreciate this comment
Great video man, look forward to your breakdown of Heihachi when he drops. You have a really good understanding of the game and all of the characters in it.
I appreciate that!
Bro I'm really struggling with mastering Lee, could you make a guide that goes into proper detail about the mist step cancel and safe neutral gameplay. Would really appreciate it dawg🙏😭
Been done that go watch the Ultimate lee guide on this channel
Bro, it would be amazing if you made a video series of how us scrubs can actually get better at playing neutral since you mentioned half these chars require a solid one.
Good idea
The video quality looks crisp GM, enjoyed this breakdown
Appreciate it
I think saying bryan is easy is controversial. I agree he doesn't have high execution but he relies alot on good defence and getting information on your opponent. Also he really struggles vs characters that are perma in your face , with lee for example you can do the 444 string to get out of trouble.
Nice one GM, I just want to give you a bit constructive tips, no criticize or mean word to you my best Lee. I remember when I was a newcomer to TEKKEN and learn the game, of course I have to choose 1 character to play, but most of TEKKEN channel mentioned about character specific stuff, I don’t even know most of what they’re saying. So I think it’s best just demonstrate some of the moves for them to see what you’re talking about. Some of them just want to know some character overall strength and weakness before they dive in, but they don’t even understand the notation, fighting game word or character’s stance, etc. Since you made it for Newcomer, I think this is what they wonder the most, even they hear what you are saying, I don’t think they understand most of the stuff (visualize). For example: Newcomer will not understand what’s electric means when you mentioned about Mishima stuff, what’s taunt jet uppercut, etc. Hope you always have a great day my man.
Yea but I can't play every character and that video would be like 10 hours long. I made what I could to help people out
@@fightinggm We really appreciate your effort my man
My scene got some mad hard players to beat(Ltrain,dtownsking,kjstyles,azurebokeh and them in SE michigan). And you right, fighting them with azucena is hard as hell in ft2/3 settings. Her poke game is my exact complaint not the wr3-2. Im mid switch to lili, shes literally better azu. In every form of the word to me. I love hearing peeps opinions on characters when its just neutral thoughts like this. good stuff fam.
"easiest devil jin has ever been, not hard to play, so easy to pick up and play"
"they made kazuya easier to play, thats why every scrub can hit electrics"
"kazuya is really easy, his mixup game is easy, his overall gameplan is easy"
"bryan is not hard to use at all, you will not struggle with him at all. when it comes to difficulty wise, you will not struggle with him."
"ling's pretty hard tho, and nina's one of the hardest characters in the game"
right, got it.
I agree that Law is very easy to play for beginners and easy rank up character in low level. Once you reach intermediate to advanced tekken, that's when you suddenly realize his strings are unsafe. Even his slide have to be done sparingly. A good player will parry junkyard, block punish b 122, duck the end of b43 and 3+44. Suddenly the game changes to where you now have to become a sweaty gamer and work hard for a win.
Thank you for breaking down each and every character, this is a very helpful video! 👏🏼
You're so welcome!
as a raven player - perfect analysis of raven's difficulty
I tried man thank you
So glad we you're not defaulting to saying "Bryan is hard", he's the easiest he's ever been with a simple gameplan, its just hard to consistently win with him sometimes lol
Some people in the comments don’t understand this video is for beginners/brand new players so some characters will be hard for THEM and not us
Yea this isn't meant for pros. Anyone that's already good at tekken half these characters would be easy to play
Nice vid. Very informative as always. Been thinking of picking up a secondary, so this is perfect.
Glad it was helpful!
LETS GOOOO.. luv ur easy/hard character videos
Thanks for the support bro
@@fightinggm love ur content man!
GM just flexed his character knowledge
nope
@@ashish322 👍
As a g.o.d alisa you literally said it perfectly hopefully in the next patch they remove the spam moves she has
Basically : Everyone is easy to play, got it.
shaheen reminds me of like a bootleg ryu or kazuya. he has easy routes but his best combos require multiple stance cancels. his while standing 3 loops are very very hard imo. he is basically tekken fundamentals. i like where he is at not too strong not too weak.
Ravens clones are -14 not 12 and -3 in heat not 2
They are not -14 In heat. His clones are -2 in heat dude. Outside of heat they are -14
His clones in heat are -3 not -2 @@fightinggm
@@fightinggm that’s what I meant. -14 normally. And yes they are -3 in heat I play raven
I remember when Mishimas used to be the hardest characters in every Tekken. Good ole days
They still are, tf you mean
@@Hachijo3GSbro probably walked into to many demon paws.
Good video!
New to Tekken. had to drop Lee cause the journey to learning him was too hard for me so I picked up Asuka and felt like I picked her up way quicker
Glad I could help!
Completely disagree with the Alisa take. When we spam half screen d3s we DESERVE to win
I've been a Jack loyalist since Tekken 6.
Yeah I’m mad they dumbed down tf outta jin😭, like yeah he was good in t7 but atleast he was hard, that’s how I think all characters should be
its not the car its the driver!
GM dropping jewels, nice vid bro.
You already know!
This guy: "yoshi is hard to play but he's good once you know how".
That's how it's supposed to be my dude, it should be hard to use character's but you should be rewarded for doing so. I have a 42% win rate in quick play to show for all the ass whoopings I had to take to get where I am with yoshi, almost 560 hours with him. I'm a kishin and I only now feel comfortable playing against tekken kings and up.
Again this video is for complete newbies. I feel like dudes don't watch or listen to videos and and don't even read the title. It says new to tekken 8. Not are u a master od tekken 8 lmaoooo
Azucena was never broken. Leave WR 3,2 as it is but give me back my 1,1
early asss hellll lets goo GM
Great video dude
Thanks bro
Hwo is one of the easiest characters to interrupt y’all mfs keep guessing
steve = hardest no competition
Not harder then lee
chesy king play might be easy and might get you to purple ranks but after that its hard af tho. so im 50/50 on agreeing with you ^^ nice video tho.
This video for low ranks not high level players
i agreed w everything except the hwoarang stuff
sidewalking is an understatement,, you can micro step a lot of his flamingo pressure,, so much option selection with defense against him
& yeah,, he's good in heat to an extent because you really only have 1 or 2 chances @ the most to capitalize off his heat mixups. that shit expires extremely quick
Solid video gm
Thanks bro
Godlike video 🔥
You already know
Amazing video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
As a Paul main I thought you were spot on. His combo execution is fairly simple compared to others and he has good damage. But his poking is weak playing Paul at ranks higher then fujin is hard he really is honest. But he definitely makes you better all I’m trying to do now with Paul is get my defense better and get better fundamentals
As a tekken king lili main on my channel and playing her years. Doing her dew glide cancel multiple times in a combo I can tell you is not easy. I would go as far to say learning the ewgf is easier to do. Just sucks how she is nerfed too much last patch. A lot of stuff she does now is unsafe even if strings get blocked is launch punishable in comparison to most of the cast :/
So everybody easy except Bears, Lidia, Lee, Jack and Steeve.
Didn't say that smh plus this is for new players not pros
the fact u say reina is the easiest mishima to play just shows you have no idea what you are talking about. have u even watched high level reina gameplay once? i dare you to replicate even a fraction of what they do and still say shes easy
Yea just spam ff2 all day into cancels and options that's really easy to replicate
@@fightinggmGo and play her see how far spamming the incredibly easily side steppable Raiden gets you. Just go and watch anyone above Bushin play Reina. Reina is the hardest not the easiest Mishima.
Asuka ain't easy, her higher damage Combos require side steps and prrfect spacing. She needs to play a lot of mind games due to her tool set like having Negative Frame Jabs.. not recommnend for Beginners she quickly becomes hard in higher ranks.
She’s easy to play at lower ranked but harder to play at higher ranks
So she’s good for beginners, not for experienced players
@@melthework4511 yes which this video is for new players lol
Bro said devil Jin is easy to play and Yoshi is hard. Good effort on this video, though.
At a low level dude smh
He said "to play" not "to win with". Good and Easy are different things. Yoshi is clearly top 5 but he still has an extremely long move list and a lot of inputs.
“Every scrubs can play Kazuya and do electrics” LOL okay dude, you are biased af.
He literally has one of the lowest win rates in top level
He means they are free in heat,.. which everyone does
Thank you 😆 🤣 😂
I thought Leo was a guy
💀
Leo's gender is not mentioned anywhere. They also have a female hurtbox so imo it's easier to say their female for combo purposes.
Tekken 7 he was referred to as a male, and in Germany leo is a more masculine name. Maybe hes js not as built as the rest of the male cast, kinda like noctis
From T6 - TTT2 Leo was Female
T7 Leo was gender swapped
T8 Leo is Leo
Ambiguous basically
Imo there's a picked character bias about Lee. He is not hard, I tried him in t7 but don't really like him in t8, mostly because of his bad sidesteps. Combos, wall pressure are not hard to get going for him and you can snowball ranked with Lee, I've seen so many carried bad players. Not saying he's easy, but hard? No. More like a bit above average.
I picked Shaheen in Tekken 7, he is easy but certainly has some stuff that hard to master.
you can snowball with any character in this game as well as enforce wall pressure with any character, aggressiveness is literally the most notable thing every character has in tekken 8, if anything lee lacks pressure in the most pressure oriented tekken game. lee is easily top 5 most difficult characters in this game to use efficiently, not much has changed with lee from t7 to t8 besides b3,3 being natural, the whole community exaggerates about him being sm easier and stronger cus he’s rlly not
Every character has a "picked character bias" and you can also snowball ranked with every character, Lee is a hard character to play against ppl, and while characters like Shaheen have good heat gimmicks like guard breaks and all that, Lee only has ff3 in heat, and besides that his heat sucks, Lee is a pretty difficult character to master
Guys that's what's called downplaying at its finest. You can't convince me that a character who can kill you in one full crouch mixup is a difficult one. Not gonna discuss his other powerful stuff like 10 fr ch wallsplat into like 70% combo, his acid rain punishment etc, he's just very stacked with strong tools for every situation, his running move and 1+2 is by itself a very strong offensive tool. Is he weaker than Shaheen? I suppose. Harder? Maybe a tiny bit but they are both neutral based characters with slide and full crouch game, Lee has much more damage and crazy ff3 and other stuff, but his slide is weaker, movement is worse. Is Lee more difficult? Not that much imo, mist steps cancels are not even comparable in difficulty with snk cancels, I tried both.
Many characters in that game were dumbed down and I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing. Bad thing is that people are downplaying their mains. Be based and tell everyone that your character ia broken, don't play like you're poor Lee mains and working so unbelievably hard to get so little in return.
Shaheen is very strong and in some situation he can feel unfair and that's alright, and the same goes to Lee or any other character.
🤣 🤣 🤣 dude said kill you on one crouch mix up. U do know slide and ws23 have zero tracking? Also lees slide is launch publishable. Also lees running move has zero tracking and he has to go into hms for more plus and still has to guess on block cause his fastest buttons are both jabs that can be parried.
Shaheen has a unreactable gaurd break in heat, a knock down slide that's faster then lees, a ws1 into ch counter hit confirm, a safer plus frame d3, a jumping mid plus frame dive that can cancel into slide etc.
Also law has a ten frame ch launcher in heat, a safe mid launcher in heat and also a knockdown slide.
Please actually learn and study the game before saying anyone is downplaying any character. I didn't say lee was bad in this video. I just said he's the hardest slide character to use in the game
@@fightinggm what a confirmation of what I've just said. Downplaying at its finest. C'mon man, be better than that. I can explain that everything you said is bullshit but there's no reason to do that as you'll downplay it to the ground no matter what arguments I'll give. So yeah, it's nice that you mocked me for no reason and then proved my point of downplaying.
I believe both Bryan and Steve is way more difficult than Lee, but they are all among the hardest characters in the game for sure.
Xiaoyu is not really hard to use. In T8, related to the system, she’s just a relatively terrible character. Now that the game is string heavy with heat smashes and RA, it’s easier to catch her sleeping. Her design is not good for T8.
another classic video
Dude basically said every mishima was easy.
But lee now that requires execution.
Ya dudes really don't listen or watch videos smh
@@fightinggm what are you talking about you said kazuya has been dumbed down and thats why people play him like scrubs.
While basically saying every other Mishima are essentially easier.
DJ, the only thing you have right about DJ is that he was nerfed.
Nothing else about him is easy, especially if you're talking to new players getting into the game.
this early?
You said Bryan is not hard and Yoshi is hard , you must be smoking 🚬 bruh
maybe he can't see the difference between hard to play and hard to learn things
or hes getting fkd by good bryan players and explayining that to himself its because bryan is easy, just to boost hes ego
I'm pro and ya not I know what I'm talking about
My man he said bryan is in the middle not hard not easy, and said yoshi’s stances are the hard ones, you listening but not paying attention
@@sidonceagainWhatever he said about steve is what applies to Bryan , and he said Steve is hard you have to have good fundamentals and timing, thats what Bryan is about and he is slower than Steve i dont know why people try to make Bryan cheap easy character, Yesterday i fought an emperor king and he said Bryan is easy cheap and he picked Bryan to disrespect me , he got his ass kicked and left without saying anything, i think people overstimate Bryan as a character its the people who play him make him work.
I smell bias on this one….. Lee is on the same level as Shaheen and Law. If you already have strong neutral/poke game, those characters are pretty easy. Lee’s just frames all seem easier in this game as well
I think Steve is hands down the hardest.
I can tell you don't play any of the characters for u to even say this. Lee is no where near the same level as law and shaheen. Lee just frames are easier when u are in heat cause it automatically is a just frame in heat smh
Hell no
@@fightinggmnah bruh. I’m not a Tekken legend like you, but I play all characters. Lee’s just frame windows feel way more generous in this game. Just frames aside, Lee and those other characters have a very solid poke game
@@jimdino77 In general, Lee is very hard, in fact, if your main argument is that the just frames are easier in this game for lee, then every character are easier to play, that makes no sense, i mean, kazuya is hard bcuz his execution, but in heat, u can spam perfect electric, that doesnt make kazuya easy as other characters. Also, mostly depends on wich game are u coming from , for example, kazuya was waaay more easier for me, i struggled more with lee, i guess that was bcuz i came from KOF , so overall for me , the learning curve with lee was longer, that's why iam a lee main.
Regards
@@alamarana6961 i said, "Lee’s just frames all seem easier in this game as well"... meaning that was a side point, not the main point... re-read the sentence before that. Never mentioned Heat either. Its not just the electrics that make Kazuya difficult, its the fact he has no other 15f launch so you are forced to use electric as a punish instead of a generic df2 or hopkick. Steve doesn't have the same execution barriers, but he has way more restrictions. Lee has more execution opportunities, but he is nowhere as restricted as Steve or Kazuya. And I'm speaking from my own experience. I use to opt out of doing Acid Raid in T7 because my execution was lacking. That has changed in T8, and I didn't suddenly become a better Lee player out of nowhere..... if Lee is "very hard", that means im pretty solid with a difficult character. I wont keep arguing against that
wtf are you on about? reina easiest mishima? are you on drugs?😂 jin and kaz press down 2 and get a full launch, what does reina do? counter hit hellsweep for oki? are you high?
Ff2 into buttons the whole match is so hard to do 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 keep eating crayons and sniffing glue dude
reina fangirl detected
He's right Reina is easy, ff2 is all you need .
If they would remove ff2 then you could debate otherwise nope
@@PijuTheBobJunior cope harder bubba xd
@@Tezca-Coatl I don't need to cope I use Reina.. the character is easy
Bryan isn't hard, yeah buddy, don't worry every good players says the opposite tho
Once u play Bryan u realize how easy he is, straightforward as shit and only needs like 6 or 7 buttons
@@NM-rj4gk Every character have the same number of buttons??? What are you even on? Go on play Bryan and grind, you'll get the idea soon that it's hard.
@@Solsticeuh has the same number of buttons??? Are u special? I used to main Bryan I’m saying he only needs like 6 moves from his entire moves list to be useful, the gameplan is spam b1 and 3+4 until they accidentally press a button and lose 60%
@@NM-rj4gk yeah yeah whatever you say, you must suck hard at him then. Play cod if you want to press two buttons.
@@Solsticeuh drop tekken id lets see ur rank 🤣
this guy doesnt know what hes talking abt at all
And what rank are you on tekken 8?