POST-GAME ANALYSIS: CanMNT fall short vs. Argentina in tough semi-final | VAMOS! Presented by Degree
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Good tournament Canada. Despite some stupid people online making outrageous takes this has been a very successful first tournament for this new team under Jessie
Technically isn’t over either! Still time for more history to be made
Canada plays for 3rd and Bronze medals.
Yeah, come on - the tourney ain't over. Lots to play for still.
Canada was just lucky to reach this far.
@@thefozzybearnot in hockey 😂
Ali Ahmed and Choineire were great
I think Ahmed should start on the right wing next game.
I hope they come in more often. Canada is building a good backup squad of super subs, this is what we need now, build up our backup players so they give our main players more competition for the starting spot.
And Tani
@@jonathancurtis5122 didn’t like him personally. He’s someone we use when we are up 1-0 to run to the corner flag and waste time. His quality isn’t there to finish. I’m from Brampton/Mississauga and I admit he’s not our best.
@@soccerguy2468 if we gave him as many minutes as we did Larin, he woulda scored several goals
Watching Argentina lay on the field and delay delay delay. I'm embarrassed for them.
Canada is a very strong team and coach Marsch is quite passionate!
No doubt, the team will be improving the level in due time.
Great Canadian chances late in the game!
Also early in the game some nice opportunities as well
Tani's header deserved to go in after the fantastic build-up play leading to it. Was gutted for him - he'd gotten into a perfect position to receive that cross, just lacked that little bit of quality ultimately.
@@JeffDSalisbury For sure! And, it will help him learn to be calm in these situations
8:58 Tactical Manager did indeed predict Canada to get to the Semi-finals and lose to Argentina there.
As much as a Finals would've been nice... I'm so proud of how Canada did & represented our country! Exceeded all expectations! Looking forward to the World Cup!! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Ahmad was class im surpised hes not in any big league and just mls he should definately be given an offer
YES Ahmed proved at the very least he should be starting for this team. Aside from Kone, he had the most impact for me last night.
The fact that he's also Ethiopian makes me proud❤🇪🇹
100%. He should absolutely start on the right against Uruguay. Laryea can sub in and draw a penalty shot late in the game. ;)
surprised more isn't being made of the third place game. I have been thinking about it since they beat Venezuela. Obviiously they will be in tough against whoever they end up facing, but third place at Copa would be a massive achievement. I know it's not a final, but i hope we treat it like one.
Larin and David did some good things defensively but we need finishing
To Wheels' point; Marsch will need to find a young CAM that he likes. J. David is playing all wrong. At Lille he's played in a 4-2-3-1 with short service provided to him. It's obvious that we'll need to replicate that. Marsch obviously didn't like Hoilett or Osorio for the CAM.
bingo this is what ive been saying
Hoillett was injured no?
Getting away from 442 will be so refreshing for this team imo. I love the 4231 to get the most out of David. As for who canplay the CAM, Junior was only out because he was injured, otherwise I feel like it would have been him, as well as Oso being an influence off the bench.
@@merru-mun7414 No, Marsch clearly had no plans to play Hoilett or Oso as a CAM. He said before the Netherlands match that he knew exactly how he wanted to use Hoilett, which I had hoped was as a 10, but then he sub'd him in as a replacement for Buchanan on the right wing, and he sub'd in Osorio as a striker, keeping the 4-2-2-2. If he had planned to play a 10 we would have seen that in the friendlies.
@@tommyshanks4198 Yes, but before he was injured Marsch utilized him as a winger sub, not a CAM.
Garreth laughing at Ollie suggesting the Canadian players wanted to win this tournament is absolutely disgraceful. Even for him...
Wheeler needs to grow up. He's smug too many times
It is extremely disappointing. Our own analysts laughing at our players for their belief in themselves. Not a good look.
The growth in a month under Coach Jesse has been encouraging
A WIN on Saturday would be phenomenal 🇨🇦
Entertaining nevertheless ... They had 2 good chances ... Finishing them would require more confidence. Argentina just really has 2 chances and made the game out of it.
What does Millar do that Wheeler feels justifies him starting ?! Aside from being incredibly fit and aggressive what does he do to.impact the offense?
The difference in quality between them and us was enough to see this result. I mean, Alvarez's first touch on their first goal was absolutely WORLD CLASS. It was artistry in motion. We shouldn't hang our heads whatsoever. Not long ago we were blowing 2-0 leads against HAITI in the Gold Cup. Now we're holding Argentina to 2-0 and probably should have had a goal if Tani's header had been better quality at the death. ALLEZ LES ROUGES!!!!
The tournament isn't over for Canada! I hope they win 3rd place! This has been an amazing run, and building block for 2026!!! Nothing but Good Vibrations!!!
I take as a positive that prior to this tournament, Waterman and Miller were the answer with the withdrawal of Vittorio et al. Seeing Cornelius and Bombito, I am encouraged to focus instead on the firepower up front
Canada played as good as i expected 😪
C'est quand le prochain BOUCLIER CANADIEN en français?... When is the next CANADIAN SHIELD in French?...
Great overview, KJ. Canada mens team is looking like a team on their way. I expect we'll see steady improvement & more wins.
I was hoping that we wouldn't get crushed...a goal would have been nice and a 3-1 result would have made me happy. Those missed chances on net are really starting to irk me, and I was in the "They will come eventually" camp. Then again, this is Argentina, in a knock out game, they were never giving us much. To my credit though, I did put $400 on the game for Canada to win lol. 10 to 1 odds were just a little too tasty to not take a chance. Ah well, overall the level Canada is playing at is unbelievable to me, after years, decades of heartbreak I'm high as kite and so happy for our nation and all thr new buzz and fandom this is all creating. Now let's get bronze!
if canada can get some goal scorers we will be a threat in the WC 2026
I agree Canada has improved overall. Canada can confidently say they can compete at the international level, unlike USA or Mexico currently. Their naivite played a role against a team like Argentina. Argentina is not only a very good team, they also know how push their rival buttons to make them lose concentration. However, as great this experience was for Canada, its not about how good they have become... is about what they are lacking. that is how you keep growing
If Davies moves up to the wing for Club next season Canada should consider moving him up but we don’t have a better left back option for now
Yes we do. Sam Adekugbe is a better left back than Davies, and when he's healthy we'll see Davies further up pitch. They overlap beautifully together. Same was a huge miss for this tourney.
Agree Hoilett was missed, and a fit sharp Tajon
The loss wasn’t disappointing but the match was. Zzzz snooze fest, turnovers, 5 combined shots, 2 goals on 3 shots, overreactions to fouls… bogged down game. Wing play was shutdown and energy was low.
Hopefully 🇨🇦 can rebound with a strong finish and 🥉 vs 🇺🇾 or 🇨🇴.
Incredible month of high level competition and experience beginning in Europe.
🇳🇱🇫🇷🇦🇷🇵🇪🇨🇱🇻🇪🇦🇷
Allez 🇨🇦
There is only English on your channel... Il n'y a que de l'anglais sur votre chaîne...
Good
Davies does not have Bayern surrounding him on CNMT. Alphonzo is surrounded very talented players but the skill level needs to increase and the nation needs a development model to hone skills of young footballers in their early and mid teens.
BTW - hockey skills don't translate into smooth , knowledgeable footballers.
The Canadian boys can be proud of themselves
Shaff is a great crosser of the ball in Nashville!
We need a #10
Saturday game is the test of team tactics. Go with the best you can do regardless of the result. Go get the third place which will be historical record to Canadian history
it got to a point where Canada got as far as Argentina allowed them to. the last 20 minutes of the game was played in Argentina's side, and nevertheless... Canada only made two shots at the keeper....none with danger.
Not true. Tani almost scored
Could Kone or Eustaquio move up to a 10 if we develop more defensive mids ?
Argentina avoided a fast and physical match with counterattacks
Would have been very different if it was in a climate controlled stadium.
How a out 2002 Brazil? Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Carlos, Rivaldo.
I didn't expect us to win. I even expected us to get routed by 2-3 goals. But from a team whose best and most expensive players are in front, two goals all tourney, and barely an attacking threat against Argentina, that was a bit of a pathetic showing.
I really hope we step away from 442. It's an outdated formation, and it doesn't allow for our best players to shine. Two strikers up front doesn't work anymore, we need one striker, two profiles in Larin and David, and three behind them to give them chances.
We are ranked #1 in the world in both men's and women's ice hockey. It is a privelage to play against the best team in the world in soccer.
sweden are currently ranked higher lol, and i'd argue a full strength USA are too based on who's in goal
Ice hockey?
What relevance does this have to our soccer discussion...
I lie today's program pretty much in-depth analysis I believe Canada could deliver better for sure. Jessie should learn from it
If we had been playing like we were after Davies got injured all game, it would have been a very different match
The most frustrating part of the game for me was Davies appearing to refuse to pass the ball up to Shaffelburg.
@@greglawrence9230Tbh,Davies is a selfish and overrated player.
@@marktheshark7588 I had never seen it so blatantly as last night. Truly disappointing and the best example of why he should not be the team captain. The full match replay is now up on TSN so I plan to watch it back again, but I think Davies did not pass to Shaffelburg even once, like his own agenda was more important than getting the ball to the player who had contributions on both goals Canada scored. Ugly.
Recruit Ryan Gauld for 🇨🇦
David and Larin are non factors. I was starting to wonder if Larin was even playing until he finally got a touch later in the game. David constantly gave the ball away or had no ideas in terms of shooting. Can we stop pretending that these guys are world class. They could kick a ball into the ocean.
In fairness, there was little to no attack in Canada's game tonight. They sat back and appeared content to not lose by too much. Can't expect strikers to score with no service.
They need learn how to shoot and how defend
Bench Larin and see how David does in a different system, I’d say.
Agreed, David needs to develop more 1 on 1 ability to be labeled "world class". Im over Larin, fine with him coming off the bench but let's entertain other starting options. Maybe he was missed on a few of his runs but he also had oppourtunities throughout the tourney and had 0 contributions to any goals
David had 2 terrible games in a row. Usually plays much better for his club and needs to be a solo striker up top. Hes not in his element playing that #10 roll. Took so bad touches and wasn't in his usual form playing out of position. Would like to see an extra midfielder or tani start instead of larin the final game coming up
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Liam Millar was terrible in my opinion this tournament - technical skills were lacking and passing was below average
Shaff got sub out too early again like got to keep him til 70min at least.
Other than that huge 1st gol error to canada that slow them down. They gotta shoot ☠
Jessie is better than Herdman but as matter of fact Canada need a top tier world class headcoach and unfortunately it never happens CSA sucks
Andi… your glasses are horrible. Stop taking fashion tips from Wheeler! 🤦🏻♂️
Not yet with the tactical changes. Learn to play first one way.
Biggest disappointment is that Canada just didn't go for it. They really just sat back after they said they weren't going to do that. It was like they only wanted to avoid being blown out. It was the worst thing that could have happened. If they go for it they can cause Argentina problems, even if they risk counter attack like the first game. Instead, Argentina was able to take their time and wait for their opportunities. Canada allowed Argentina to play their game. Super proud of the boys and Marsch for this tourney performance, but how they approached tonight was disappointing.
You know, I think that after rewatching the match I'm going to take this back. It's clear the boys were worn out. The lack of depth and therefore lack of cycling players through the tourney is obviously asking just too much for this group. They pushed as much as they could and simply weren't able to make the most of the chances they were able to create. David in particular just seemed so tired. He's still smart in his movements but his touches are tired. Really proud of these performances and with the changes Marsch said will be made to the starting XI against Uruguay I'm expecting a good showing Saturday. And my goodness, this group will be truly dangerous come 2026.
Cylw Larin & Jacob Shaffelburg need more time playing together as they weren't on the same page. They each missed the other on good chances with passes that weren't understood by the other. That will improve too.
I hate that the clock doesn’t stop
In soccer. There is no way in hell that only 4 minutes of additional time should have been added with all the delays in the 2nd half.
The 2nd half was so dry and the ref really ruined the flow. I felt
Like I barely watched any actual soccer the 2nd half. For the good of the sport…just stop
The damn clock when there is delays for injuries or for time wasting reasons.
Player ratings from this tournament
David 2/10
Larin 0/10 (Did he even play!?)
Davies 7/10
Shaffelburg 8/10
Miller 5/10
Bombito 3/10 (this guy is a liability)
Johnston 7/10
Estacio 5/10
Kone 5/10
Osorio 4/10
Davies 5, didn’t play well at all.
Cornelius (missed him?) 5, made a couple good interceptions and tackles but should have played Messi offside on second goal today
For me, Crepeau edges it as player of the tournament over Shaff, as well as Shaff played. Without Crepeau, no quarterfinal or semifinal. 8 for him despite the Venezuela goal. Bit unlucky today too.
Fair assessment. I would have agreed with you on Crepeau until this game. He looked rusty on those goals.
I thought bombito was really good considering it's his first time ever playing for team canada. Only goals against us were from Argentina in both games and Venezuela he made his mistake. Otherwise not bad for a young CB. I thought defence was gonna be way worse than it was
@trevorkew6097 give the CBs some credit. First time ever playing together, played against Argentina and you expect them to shut them down? I thought CBs were a bright spot this tournament compared to what I thought going in. I'd give Cornelius a 6.5, 7. Whole new system and coach implemented before playing the #1 team in the world and they only allowed 2 goals each game
Millar and Bombito 1/10
With respect, can you please stop rationalising and justifying it - “Argentina is number 1 and they have won this many games” etc. We already know that they got Marsch recently. Just analyse the game please.
Secondly, yes I absolutely predicted them in the semi finals. Expected a loss to Argentina, Win against dreadful Peru and a defensive block and draw against Chile. Then a good chance to go to penalties against whoever wins including Venezuela.
You sounding like an Argentina hater.Cuz its facts that Argentina was way better than Canada tonight.Also,let us be honest,Canada was lucky to even reach this far.
Minutes 11 to 16 are a very precise analysis of what Canada did wrong in this game, and what they need to do going forward.
Jessie, a few suggestions: the centre back is garbage, Millar is garbage. The way you play Alphonso Davies is wrong. Study the Much gamse in which how he plays. And Canada need team defence particularly playing with top teams. Middlefield need strengthening. Keep searching strikers. Kone is hopeful. where is Ugbo. Buchanan never got started in your team please explain why??? he is the best right wing in this Canada team, I don't get it. I believe there are better options for middlefielders look at previous games. Pick of goalkeepers are good. It is good team real test for 2026 WC. Hope Jessie learn from it. It is good but lots of room for improvement Overall the team looks better but with lots of problems. Jessie definitely did better job than Herdman
Ugbo pulled out of tournament for personal reasons. Buchanon stunk when he started, then played great off the bench and probably would've stated next game until he broke his leg in training. Don't have a very deep player pool to pick from at center back and I thought they did ok
A semi final is NOT a trophy Canadians 😂😂
They're delusional.
Better than not making a semi final, like a couple of countries not far from here
No one said it was but still over achieved and have a spot at 3rd place on Saturday which is good for canada. Also big to get to semis for extra money because canada soccer has been having big time financial issues leading up to this tournament
Put some respect on what?You guys was just lucky to even reach this far.Cuz 2 goals in the tournament is piss poor for any team.
This is not our main sport and we are just starting to build a program. For us this was a success. And I guess you put no stake in defending? Not allowing many goals against top South American sides is something to build on. Think of rugby in Argentina - that’s football in Canada right now. We don’t expect to beat Argentina of course and we know we were fortunate to get to semis but it doesn’t mean we are a terrible side. At the end of the day if we are shit that means most of South America is worse? If we are so bad it’s easy to prove it, just score a bunch of goals against us - but no one in this tournament could…