Joking aside, sarcasm aside. I'm impressed with what I'm reading and hearing from Canadians. Glad you're living up to your reputation as a country of generally good people.
I really value Oli Platt's assessment of this situation... I appreciate your level-headed analysis and insight, because I'm burning inside thinking about how this just violates the spirit of the Olympics on so many levels, but they think they are Olympians? Let's see what happens when we trip down the rabbit hole... but I'm feeling just stupefied as to who thought this was a good idea to do in France during a nation-wide ban of piloting drones for the duration of the Olympics for national security reasons- spying being the #1 reason...
I'm shocked and embarrassed by this drone scandal. I understand Wheels point explaining that this is simply how it is , it's a normal part of Canadian strategy apparently to try & gain an advantage. Well I'm a proud Canadian & want to see our women win gold but this is wrong & it's a dirty tactic . It shouldnt be a normal part of the strategy. As Canadians we should be setting an example to the rest of the world. We are much better then this , this was wrong plain & simple.
I'm neither shocked nor embarrassed by a drone. The competitive advantage one would gain would be very minimal. But let's all agree that using a drone would give you a competitive advantage. Is watching game film of your opponent a competitive advantage? Is rolling around on the pitch, faking an injury to burn time off the clock a competitive advantage? What about diving upon light contact in the box to try and draw a penalty kick? Or waiting an extra minute or two to come on to the field at half time? Or maybe taking extra time to make a throw in, a goal kick when leading? What about making tackles to slow the game down? These are all tactics used to gain a competitive advantage. There are dozens of dirty tactics that are used in soccer to gain advantages. And then there are dirty tactics by FIFA, CONCACAF and other governing bodies. Qatar being given the World Cup is one. So again, am I shocked and embarrassed by this? No. I'm more shocked by the fact that 23 Chinese swimmers who tested positive for the banned heart medication trimetazidine (TMZ) in January 2021 were allowed to compete at the Tokyo Olympics (13 of the 23), with their positive tests kept from the public, after the World Anti-Doping Authority (WADA) accepted China’s explanation of environmental contamination. It is wrong, Bev will pay the price. Certainly not disagreeing with that. But let's not get too dramatic about where this lies within the echelon of the "spirit of the Olympics" which is filled with murky and unethical back room decisions where money is exchanged in one form or another.
@@mccullochmike TSN revealed both men and women teams have been doing this for YEARS!!!! This is more than embarrassing and a sad day for Canadian sports. I hope they cut the problem from the root, banning, stripping medals if required. This is like cancer. No excuses.
@@fonkamex As I initially stated, let’s not get too dramatic about where this lies…and here comes the “this is like cancer” take. Time will show how common the usage of drones has been in the soccer community. Years ago, teams would sneak into practice and pretend to be janitors. The Chinese had a myriad of spying techniques they used ahead of their game against Denmark when they hosted. Ben Johnson had his gold medal stripped but time eventually showed that 6 of the 8 runners in the gold medal race tested positive throughout their careers and speculation is the other two simply weren’t caught. If they were extremely upset by the cheating they should have disqualified Canada. Instead, they now have a strong chance of moving on which makes the punishment somewhat moot. Canada did not need to spy on New Zealand. It was wrong as are all the other times they have done so. It’s not tantamount to rooting out cancer though. Soccer is full of questionable tactics and outright cheating. This is not the end of the world and the sky is not falling.
She already has been, and it may be she's seen her last day active as a coach of any Canadian national soccer team depending on what an investigation into Dronegate turns up, if anything, on her involvement.
@@steelcom5976 I'm not sure how much, if anything, Priestman knew about Dronegate before that scandal had come to light although I believe that what changes Canada Soccer must make, for there to NOT be a repeat of Dronegate, remain TBD. Perhaps the severing of sponsorships to Canada Soccer will motivate that governing org to change how it conducts business. Hockey Canada, after the loss of sponsors after in 2022 a major cover-up of sexual assault in organized ice hockey in this country, had little choice but to change its ways of operation.
@@wainber1 TSN revealed both men and women teams have been doing this for YEARS!!!! This is more than embarrassing and a sad day for Canadian sports. I hope they cut the problem from the root, banning, stripping medals if required. This is like cancer. No excuses
@@fonkamex Hours ago Carla Qualtrough, Canada's Sport Minister, announced the Canadian Soccer Association, due to Dronegate, would, for the duration of the FIFA suspensions of Bev Priestman, Joe Lombardi and Jasmine Mander (i.e. to late-July 2025), have its government funding partially cut. Qualtrough's most-recent predecessor, Pascale St-Onge, had, on behalf of the Canadian Government, cut funding to Hockey Canada after that nonprofit org had for years covered up a gang rape by some members of the country's 2018 under-20 men's (World Junior [WJC]) team. Hockey Canada had, before the August 2022 WJC Top Division tourney, had to deal with fewer sponsors than in previous years, something I hope the Canadian Soccer Association will have to deal with at least until a necessary housecleaning of execs and coaches occurs. Head coaches of sports teams have been fired simply due to a lack of playoff success (as Sheldon Keefe, who despite having as a head coach of the Toronto Marlies, the American Hockey League affiliate of the Maple Leafs, won a championship [Calder Cup], never was able to translate that success at the AHL level to NHL-level success, having overseen just ONE playoff series win [in April 2023 against the Tampa Bay Lightning {which I like to call the Bolts}]) or, if on a rebuilding team, for rebuilds that haven't gone well (with last December, DJ Smith, who'd coached all 71 regular-season games during the 2019-20 Ottawa Senators' season, having lost his job after the Sens had started the 2023-24 regular season with a putrid 11-15-0-0 win-regulation loss-shootout loss record). Mike Babcock, who from the 1990s until last September, had been a coach, whether head or otherwise, of various ice hockey teams from major-junior up to the NHL, resigned as Columbus Blue Jackets' head coach. That CBJ HC job of his had been his 1st job as an NHL coach since having been Toronto Maple Leafs' head coach as recent as November 2019, and after he'd been caught having demanded to see whatever photos various then-players of the Ohio NHL team had had on their phones, he resigned and, to my knowledge, hasn't been hired by another sports team. Priestman, Lombardi and Mander, for having been implicated in Dronegate, have already been sanctioned by FIFA although: - the last 2 coaches, before the 1st game of CanWNT, had already by the Canadian Olympic Committee been ordered to leave the Paris Games - Priestman last week Friday Central European Time had already been ordered by the COC to leave the Paris Games and suspended by the Canadian Soccer Association pending the outcome of an external investigation ordered by the same soccer association
If you look closely she had no business coaching a national team in the first place. With her experience she could lead a youth team at best. She probably landed the job and received a contract extension despite the team's early WC exit because she probably had good connections within Soccer Canada.
Whether that'll happen remains TBD. Yet when I think of: - retired ex-Canucks winger Todd Bertuzzi, I think of a multi-month ban the International Ice Hockey Federation slapped on him so that during the 2004-05 NHL lockout he wouldn't get to play internationally after a sucker-punch, late in the 2003-04 NHL regular season, on then-Avs' centre Steve Moore in what had become the so-called Bertuzzi-Moore incident - Mike Keenan, I think of such a head coach known to have had a short fuse to have even been fired by the NY Rangers' team he'd coached to a Stanley Cup, ultimately choosing to go overseas to continue his coaching career - Joel Quenneville, I think of: -- a resignation from his Florida Panthers' head coaching job despite a start to the 2021-22 regular season with 7 wins in 7 games after an outside investigation the Chicago Blackhawks' team of which he, too, had been a head coach had found he'd covered up sexual abuse perpetrated by then-video coach Brad Aldrich on prospect Kyle Beach during the 2010 NHL postseason -- someone who, as far as I'm aware, has yet to find a job in the NHL even with permission that Commissioner Gary Bettman had given Quenneville to seek job opportunities within that league (even with the recent puzzling hire of Stan Bowman by the Oilers to be their GM despite his having participated, as GM of the Blackhawks, in the SAME cover-up as Quenneville)
I have no factual basis to conclude Priestman ordered the drone footage, but what does it say about her leadership if she didn't know what her staff were doing? Not good -- Ms. Priestman should resign, in my opinion. I feel sorry for the players who I think had a at least a puncher's chance of repeating as champions.
too be honest she could barely coach to begin with , maybe the drone was the coach and reason the womans team turned it around after herdman and than christine sinclair left
Allegations of a toxic work environment followed Mike Babcock after having coached the Toronto Maple Leafs but before a much briefer stint as head coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets. Allegations he'd asked then-members of CBJ's roster to show him photos on their smartphones ultimately prompted him to resign before preseason play was to last September begin. The then-GM of the Ohio NHL team, Jarmo Kekäläinen, would for unrelated reasons be sent packing albeit in February after in regular-season play the CBJ had put up a 16-26-9-1 win-regulation loss-OT loss-shootout loss record, bad enough for, over 52 games, just 42 points and points % of 40⁵⁄₁₃. The CBJ struggled that season even without Babcock, ultimately ending the regular season with a putrid 27-43-10-2, bad enough for 66 points over 82 games and P% of 40¹⁰⁄₄₁, a bit worse than just the record under Kekäläinen. Is Priestman a soccer version of Mike Babcock? It's good to ask although even if evidence emerges of wrongdoing by her, it may not be anywhere near similar to what sent him packing from the CBJ.
@@nightshift3635 It's true, she basically had no knowledge of the sport when it comes to tactics. She had zero experience of coaching a national side and yet Soccer Canada handed her the head coach position, and gave her a contract extension despite a first round exit from the World Cup. She likely has some strong connection within Soccer Canada.
@@johnlee3339 when did herdman become canadian?? and if he did he was smart enough not to get caught unlike priestman who had no coaching skill and relied on them entirely
It's a blessing in disguise, an absolute gift for this team if she leaves. She was never a good coach, she was tactically stupid when compared with the likes of Pia Sundhage, Jill Ellis, Sarina Wiegman, Emma Hayes, etc. I have no idea why she deserved this job in the first place with her experience. At best she could be in charge of a U-16 team. Also never understood how her contract was extended despite Canada being eliminated in the first round of the world cup. Anyone would be an improvement from her.
In the case of Bielsa, he stated that his spying only gave him very minimal advantage. It served only to satisfy his suspicions about small things and not to give huge gains.
Bruh,you can't make examples of other instances to justify what Canada has done.Also,it was said that the Canada's men team has done this during the Copa America.
I'm really ambivalent about this whole thing. People are going to lose their jobs, as they should, for getting caught but I am not naive to the rampant cheating that occurs in this sport. I am actually surprised that CSA give a shit enough to actually try it. In the world of competitive sports it is all good as long as you don't get caught. PED's, drones, cash, it is all on the table and I am sure you can think of some athletes and organizations that off the top of your head that have also done this.
To be fair, this was filmed before that was announced. And also for you to states that she was removed as head coach is slightly incorrect, she was removed only for the Olympics. Pending the rest of the investigation.
@kevinwilkie2150 Was she not removed?... YES! I didn't specify for good... I simply said she was removed!? Don't overread what wasn't written! But I bet after they complete their investigation, she will be permanently removed!
Gee, Priestman has now been contradicted in her assertions that she was not involved. Goodbye, and good riddence. Sure others do it, but Canada Soccer and Priestman herself passed themselves as all-holy, all-ethical players that wouldn't engage in this tyoe of behavior. Liars.
Opposing teams wont notice drones flying over their training sessions randomly? Lol this is the dumbest way to try and cheat ive ever heard of. A drone flying around is hardly covert
I think this is getting blown out of proportion. Teams in all other sports do this stuff all the time. They don't get caught. They could actually be cheating and paying refs to fix games. This is nothing lol.
TSN revealed both men and women teams have been doing this for YEARS!!!! This is more than embarrassing and a sad day for Canadian sports. I hope they cut the problem from the root, banning, stripping medals if required. This is like cancer. No excuses
Had the perpetrator been any other country than Canada, the entire squad would have been disqualified and sent home. But its Canada and they have friends. Oh Canada! Posting from Northern Ontario.
Absolutely! Any other country doing this would be banned for a long period of time. Exemplary punishment they say. This a sad day for Canadian sports anyways.
The CANWNT players didn’t know what their coaches were doing behind their backs. And there is no evidence or whistle blower testimony that they did know. Under those circumstances, FIFA wasn’t going to disqualify the team or any team under similar circumstances. Not if that kind of decision would be challenged and reversed on appeal.
@@fonkamex This turned out to be a happy day for the team. They overcame FIFA’s six-point penalty against them by defeating France. They will advance to the next round by beating Colombia next, a task very doable for them. Any other team, given the same circumstances, would have been punished the same by FIFA. There is no evidence or whistleblower testimony that the CANWNT players knew at all about the shady things that their head coach was doing like using drones to spy on other teams. The same can’t be said about their male counterparts on CANMNT.
these women should have to repay all expenses taxpayers incurred sending these cheaters around the world and dont tell me they didnt know all excuses aside cheating is cheating no matter who else does it
@@StepnieW CANWNT won because they are fundamentally strong on defence and are better at successfully making penalty kicks than their opponents. Sweden has had great success with that formula and Canada, under Priestman, has followed their example. The womens team usually goes with the same formation and more or less the same lineup every game.
@@thomashong2938 "They are fundamentally strong on defense." Because they cheated, they knew what was coming because they spied on their opponent's tactics, offensively and defensively.
@@StepnieW What a crock. They win because they outplay their opponents on the pitch. Keep on whining. Oh, by the way. USWNT is a sad shadow of its old self. Going to love watching them miss the Olympic podium one more time.
I'm Canadian, but for the integrity of the sport and game, Canada should not be allowed to keep the points. An example needs to be made so that no other Football Association attempts this again.
I tend to agree with this but my major concern is the fans that have bought tickets for other group stage games. Let the group stage play out as if it will only be a slap on the wrist then strip Canada of everything after the group stage regardless of their place and send them home. Further investigation needs to be conducted of activities at the Tokyo Olympics and the gold medal stripped if anything inappropriate is found.
@@theloniousm4337 I dunno what will happen to Canada Soccer even with a sex abuse scandal, during the 2010 NHL postseason, that had featured a cover-up, by then-execs of the Chicago Blackhawks, until after that team had won a Stanley Cup. The NHL allowed the Blackhawks to keep their Cup but in October 2021, after an external investigation the Blackhawks had ordered to be done on that scandal had found that Stan Bowman and Joel Quenneville had participated in that cover-up: - Bowman resigned as Blackhawks' GM - Quenneville, who in the 2010s had been Hawks' head coach, resigned his role as Florida Panthers' head coach despite having lead his team off to a hot start via wins of all their 1st 7 regular-season games The Blackhawks weren't stripped of any draft picks and even got to in 2022 draft centre Connor Bedard 1st overall. That said, Quenneville, who'd resigned because likely he otherwise would've been fired, lost his job and even with NHL Commish Bettman having reinstated Quenneville's ability to look for work in any capacity in that league, the ex-Blackhawk ex-Panther head coach has yet to find employment in the NHL (and may end up not doing so).
They were penalized six points by FIFA. CANWNT beat France 2-1 today, nullifying the penalty imposed on them. A win over Colombia in the next game advances them to the next round.
BEV PRIESTMAN is a national embarrassment, remove her from Soccer Canada immediately..she has never played the game, why is she head coach and why is her New Zealand wife Head coach of Canada U17. Ridiculous.
It's interesting you bring up Priestman having never played soccer before having become head coach of Canada's adult women's soccer team. Kyle Dubas, whose 5-season tenure as GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, became one of the Pittsburgh Penguins not even a month after his tenure as one for the Leafs had ended and had once played hockey before repeated concussions as a teenager had forced him to stop playing. Sheldon Keefe, who'd coached the Toronto Marlies, the Leafs' American Hockey League affiliate to a championship (Calder Cup), had a short career as a player, having been selected by the Bolts in the 2nd round of the 1999 NHL Entry Draft (47th overall) but having opted to start coaching after a knee injury, during the 2004-05 AHL season, had ended his career as a player. As head coach of the Leafs, Keefe oversaw just ONE playoff series win: an April 2023 one against the Bolts via, in game 6, a goal just over 4½ minutes into the 1st OT period by then-captain John Tavares. Yet during the same month as Keefe had seen his tenure as Leafs' HC end, the NJ Devils hired him. TBD will be what playoff success if any he gets to oversee in his newest role. Kris(topher) Knoblauch, after having coached Kootenay Ice of the Western Hockey League (a Canadian major-junior one), Erie Otters of the Ontario Hockey League (part of, very much like the WHL, the major-junior Canadian Hockey League) and the AHL affiliate of the NY Rangers (Hartford, CT-based Wolf Pack), became a head coach of the Edmonton Oilers, leading that NHL team to just its 2nd post-1990s Stanley Cup appearance. Knobby, as he's also known, was drafted by the NY Islanders but understandably never played a regular-season or playoff game at the NHL level after having been drafted 166th during, and thus 5th in the 7th round of, his NHL Draft year. John Tortorella aka Torts has had quite a temper but has been a head coach of different NHL teams from 1988 and is currently one of the Philly Flyers. His playing career lasted 4 or 5 seasons. Yet do former players make good coaches or sports team execs? Not necessarily so. Jim Benning, selected 6th overall by the Leafs during his NHL Draft year, played parts of 6 and 5 respective seasons under contract to that team and the Vancouver Canucks' one of which he would eventually become GM, seeing few playoff games at that level (just 7) but >600 regular-season ones as a defenceman. Yet during his tenure as GM, the Canucks only qualified twice for playoff action and only during the 2019-20 season did that team win a playoff series. Patrik Allvin, the 1st post-Benning Canucks' GM, has already overseen a playoff series win after having learned that being an exec of the Canucks hadn't been the same as that of the Pens. Allvin didn't have as long a career as a player in North America, having split his time between the East Coast (ECHL) and International Hockey (IHL) leagues before his decision, after 2 seasons of playing outside his native Sweden, to play much closer to home, ending his career with Mora IK of the Allsvenskan league, during the 2001-02 season, after having split time the previous season between that team and one with a team in Mainland Norway very close to the border with his homeland. Time will tell if Allvin will bring more lasting playoff success to the Canucks than Benning ever did, particularly with: - departures of: -- centre Elias Lindholm and defenceman Nikita Zadorov, for whose acquisitions last NHL season they'd used so much draft capital in those trades for those players with the Calgary Flames -- Casey DeSmith, who they'd acquired last September in a trade with the Habs that'd sent winger Tanner Pearson back east - acquisitions, just from early-July's free agent frenzy, 7 players including 2 (Jake DeBrusk and Danton Heinen) who only hours before had walked into unrestricted free agency from the Boston Bruins
All of Canada should be kicked out of the Olympics this year. No excuse for cheating. Obviously this finally proves how Canada has finally started to gets wins in soccer over the past few years. Stick to winter sports like hockey and curling.
The media is spinning this as the Australian team told the police that there was drones flying above them. That is not true. The truth is that at the time of the drones flying they were in a no fly zone implemented by the French government. The Canadian soccer team were ignorant of this no fly zone area and it was the French police who caught these drones. It was not the Australian soccer team who told the police. According to sources within the soccer federations these drone incidences with teams spying on each other HAPPEN ALL THE TIME! The only thing that was different is that Canada got caught and the police had to make a statement. Can you imagine if this was known by the public that this is a regular occurrence in the soccer realm. Someone had to pay for this mistake and unfortunately it was the stupidity of our national team coaches and players who didn't know there was a no fly zone in place. Don't kid yourself as if the players didn't know this was going on. Its a secret within their own associations. Your telling me the police intercepted text messages. Seriously! How naive can we be to accept this narrative.
New Zealand not Australia. There is no evidence that the CANWNT players knew that drones were being used to spy on other teams practices. Their coaches had to have known about the no-fly zones before going to the Paris Olympics. And they didn’t care, for whatever reason.
In the recent men's soccer championship, "Copa America", Canada came second...Canada beat Brazil. Was this rating honest? Didn't Canada use drones to spy on the Brazilian soccer team before the game too? Canada's Ministry of Sports should apologize to the world and severely punish everyone (coach, technicians and players) involved! = (gilberto lehrer - brasil)
Send them all home!! Canada is no inocent like the world thinks. The whole team, Preistman, Soccer Canada etc etc all knew. Start a commission LOL Canada will never learn, Ben Johnson??? Doing this at the Olympics is asinine!!
@@johnq2068 I think he/she is still playing for this embarrassment of a team and was on the pitch for the game against NZ. Canada should stick to ice hockey and curling where there "appears" to be no room for this woke agenda. Posting from Northern Ontario.
Very New England Patriots of the Canadian Women's Soccer Team! Quite shameful. Priestman has not impressed me at all. Canada was useless at the World Cup in Australia and how she managed to keep her job is too funny. I cannot see the Canadian Team making the medals, never mind winning the tournament. Go France! Go Brazil! Go Japan!
Canada's adult women's soccer team has 1 win and likely will need just 2 more points to be sure of clinching a top-2 spot and thus automatically qualify for the knockout stage. That said, the last time the relevant Canadian team faced a host country of a given intercontinental tourney, that team was shut out, with the relevant Australian team having, via its convincing win, sent its Canadian counterpart home from the relevant 2023 FIFA World Cup. The Thursday Eastern Daylight Time Canada-NZ game featured a slim win by the relevant Canadian team even with that win in regulation at 2-1. That said, the start was so slow that it took until the 4th minute of extra time in the 1st half to score. Mackenzie Barry's goal during the 13th minute came after the relevant Canadian team against which she'd been playing hadn't buried any of its chances into the NZ net. Start that slow against the host French team, and I don't like the relevant Canadian team's chances of even getting a point in that game, with that game scheduled for this weekend on Sunday afternoon EDT. Who knows how much stoppage time there'll be in the 1st half in the Canada-France game should the relevant Canadian team find itself once again down 1-0? Just imagine if Cloé Lacasse hadn't tied that game 1-1 when she did. It might very well have been that a tie in the Canada-NZ game would've meant, with the win by the French team over its Colombian counterpart, that simply due to a disciplinary point slapped on the CanWNT due to a yellow card (given to Kadeisha Buchanan), but none slapped on the NZ side, the CanWNT would've ended up 3rd in Group A. Had there been a loss, it could very well have been the relevant Canadian team, not the NZ one, would've been dead last. We could be talking about a similar outcome to the 2022 FIFA World Cup with respect to Canada's adult men's soccer team (CanMNT), with, after, within Group F the: - 1st game, the respective Belgian, Croatian, Moroccan and Canadian teams with 3, 1, 1 and 0 points, but with the Croatian team, unlike the Moroccan one, not had a disciplinary point slapped on it - 2nd game, the respective Croatian, Moroccan, Belgian and Canadian teams with 4, 3, 3 and 0 points, with, on goal difference, the respective Moroccan and Belgian ones having been +2 (2 scored, none allowed) and -1 (1 scored, 2 allowed) - 3rd game, the respective Moroccan, Croatian, Belgian and Canadian teams having ended up with 7, 5, 4 and 0 points The Belgian adult men's team's 2-0 loss to its Moroccan counterpart at the relevant Qatar 2022 World Cup would turn out to be fatal because as much as a tie would make things close between the Croatian and Belgian teams, the Belgian team would've needed to end the group stage portion of its tourney with a WIN but due to no goal scored by either team, the Croatian one, unlike the Belgian one, advanced out of the group stage. The CanWNT had, after 2 games at the 2023 relevant World Cup, put up 4 points over 2 games via a respective draw against and win over its Nigerian and Irish counterparts. A draw would've meant a top-2 finish and a trip to the knockout stage at the relevant Australian team's expense, with 1st and 2nd likely decided on goal difference or, barring that, goals scored between the CanWNT and its Nigerian counterpart. Instead the relevant Canadian team missed out on knockout stage action by a single point.
@@wainber1 CANWNT won their must-win game against France today, thanks to goals from Jesse Fleming and Vanessa Gilles. In doing so, they overcame the six-point penalty imposed on them by FIFA. A win against Colombia will advance them to the next round.
@@thomashong2938 Respective goal differences of +2 and +1, after 2 games CanWNT and its Colombian counterpart have played, pending the game against each other to end group stage play, make a win by ANY margin for CanWNT a way to clinch an automatic knockout stage spot (realistically the only way to do so because ending up with 1 point likely will mean, if 3rd place is where CanWNT ends, that team will have the lowest # of points among 3rd-place teams in groups A-C, and thus not advance to the knockout stage).
That makes no sense at all. That's like disqualifying the whole track and field team over one person on the team getting caught for doping in their event. 🤔🤔😣😣
@@thomashong2938 I dunno if Canada's adult women's team will be disqualified from the Paris 2024 Olympic tourney although TBD will be whether whatever momentum that team generated from that win over its NZ counterpart will translate into at least a point against its French counterpart in that weekend game. Get 5 or more points, and likely CanWNT will finish top-2 in Group A but get only 3, and there'll be no guarantee of qualifying for the knockout stage (with the top-2 3rd-place teams, among those in the 3 groups, getting to join the top-2 teams in each group in the knockout stage).
They weren’t and won’t be. No evidence or whistleblower testimony that the players knew that the coaches were doing shady things. Under those circumstances, neither the IOC nor FIFA will expell the team. The Canadian track and field team wasn’t disqualified in 1988 as a result of what Ben Johnson and his coach did with anabolic steroids.
Joking aside, sarcasm aside. I'm impressed with what I'm reading and hearing from Canadians. Glad you're living up to your reputation as a country of generally good people.
I really value Oli Platt's assessment of this situation... I appreciate your level-headed analysis and insight, because I'm burning inside thinking about how this just violates the spirit of the Olympics on so many levels, but they think they are Olympians? Let's see what happens when we trip down the rabbit hole... but I'm feeling just stupefied as to who thought this was a good idea to do in France during a nation-wide ban of piloting drones for the duration of the Olympics for national security reasons- spying being the #1 reason...
Absolutely stupid to do this in France. She embarrassed the country and let her team down, fire her.
I'm shocked and embarrassed by this drone scandal. I understand Wheels point explaining that this is simply how it is , it's a normal part of Canadian strategy apparently to try & gain an advantage. Well I'm a proud Canadian & want to see our women win gold but this is wrong & it's a dirty tactic . It shouldnt be a normal part of the strategy. As Canadians we should be setting an example to the rest of the world. We are much better then this , this was wrong plain & simple.
I'm neither shocked nor embarrassed by a drone. The competitive advantage one would gain would be very minimal. But let's all agree that using a drone would give you a competitive advantage. Is watching game film of your opponent a competitive advantage? Is rolling around on the pitch, faking an injury to burn time off the clock a competitive advantage? What about diving upon light contact in the box to try and draw a penalty kick? Or waiting an extra minute or two to come on to the field at half time? Or maybe taking extra time to make a throw in, a goal kick when leading? What about making tackles to slow the game down? These are all tactics used to gain a competitive advantage. There are dozens of dirty tactics that are used in soccer to gain advantages. And then there are dirty tactics by FIFA, CONCACAF and other governing bodies. Qatar being given the World Cup is one. So again, am I shocked and embarrassed by this? No.
I'm more shocked by the fact that 23 Chinese swimmers who tested positive for the banned heart medication trimetazidine (TMZ) in January 2021 were allowed to compete at the Tokyo Olympics (13 of the 23), with their positive tests kept from the public, after the World Anti-Doping Authority (WADA) accepted China’s explanation of environmental contamination.
It is wrong, Bev will pay the price. Certainly not disagreeing with that. But let's not get too dramatic about where this lies within the echelon of the "spirit of the Olympics" which is filled with murky and unethical back room decisions where money is exchanged in one form or another.
@@mccullochmike Well aren't you sharp today with some wise insights.
@@mccullochmike TSN revealed both men and women teams have been doing this for YEARS!!!! This is more than embarrassing and a sad day for Canadian sports. I hope they cut the problem from the root, banning, stripping medals if required. This is like cancer. No excuses.
@@fonkamex As I initially stated, let’s not get too dramatic about where this lies…and here comes the “this is like cancer” take.
Time will show how common the usage of drones has been in the soccer community. Years ago, teams would sneak into practice and pretend to be janitors. The Chinese had a myriad of spying techniques they used ahead of their game against Denmark when they hosted.
Ben Johnson had his gold medal stripped but time eventually showed that 6 of the 8 runners in the gold medal race tested positive throughout their careers and speculation is the other two simply weren’t caught.
If they were extremely upset by the cheating they should have disqualified Canada. Instead, they now have a strong chance of moving on which makes the punishment somewhat moot. Canada did not need to spy on New Zealand. It was wrong as are all the other times they have done so. It’s not tantamount to rooting out cancer though. Soccer is full of questionable tactics and outright cheating. This is not the end of the world and the sky is not falling.
New info is out. She’s sent home.
Only suspended. She'll be back.
New info she is banned from coaching for 1 year.
@@jj12566 One year is basically a suspension.
If Priestman knew about it she needed to be fired. If she didn’t know what her assistants were doing she should be fired.
Priestman is gone. Suspended by Canada Soccer.
It was her haircut that was the final straw.
That's not gone.
I think Priestman should be sent home also. 100% she knew.
She already has been, and it may be she's seen her last day active as a coach of any Canadian national soccer team depending on what an investigation into Dronegate turns up, if anything, on her involvement.
Provide your 100% proof instead of your 0% opinion.
@@steelcom5976 I'm not sure how much, if anything, Priestman knew about Dronegate before that scandal had come to light although I believe that what changes Canada Soccer must make, for there to NOT be a repeat of Dronegate, remain TBD. Perhaps the severing of sponsorships to Canada Soccer will motivate that governing org to change how it conducts business. Hockey Canada, after the loss of sponsors after in 2022 a major cover-up of sexual assault in organized ice hockey in this country, had little choice but to change its ways of operation.
All of the examples Wheeler stated received a heavy punishment. I’d expect the same for the Canadian Soccer program.
Incredible that they suspended the coach for the remainder of the Olympics. Probably won't have a job after all said and done.
Probably multiple staffers getting the axe
@@realalbertan The rot within Canada Soccer is so deep that I hope that multiple people who by then are still working for that org will be fired.
@@wainber1 TSN revealed both men and women teams have been doing this for YEARS!!!! This is more than embarrassing and a sad day for Canadian sports. I hope they cut the problem from the root, banning, stripping medals if required. This is like cancer. No excuses
@@fonkamex Hours ago Carla Qualtrough, Canada's Sport Minister, announced the Canadian Soccer Association, due to Dronegate, would, for the duration of the FIFA suspensions of Bev Priestman, Joe Lombardi and Jasmine Mander (i.e. to late-July 2025), have its government funding partially cut. Qualtrough's most-recent predecessor, Pascale St-Onge, had, on behalf of the Canadian Government, cut funding to Hockey Canada after that nonprofit org had for years covered up a gang rape by some members of the country's 2018 under-20 men's (World Junior [WJC]) team. Hockey Canada had, before the August 2022 WJC Top Division tourney, had to deal with fewer sponsors than in previous years, something I hope the Canadian Soccer Association will have to deal with at least until a necessary housecleaning of execs and coaches occurs.
Head coaches of sports teams have been fired simply due to a lack of playoff success (as Sheldon Keefe, who despite having as a head coach of the Toronto Marlies, the American Hockey League affiliate of the Maple Leafs, won a championship [Calder Cup], never was able to translate that success at the AHL level to NHL-level success, having overseen just ONE playoff series win [in April 2023 against the Tampa Bay Lightning {which I like to call the Bolts}]) or, if on a rebuilding team, for rebuilds that haven't gone well (with last December, DJ Smith, who'd coached all 71 regular-season games during the 2019-20 Ottawa Senators' season, having lost his job after the Sens had started the 2023-24 regular season with a putrid 11-15-0-0 win-regulation loss-shootout loss record). Mike Babcock, who from the 1990s until last September, had been a coach, whether head or otherwise, of various ice hockey teams from major-junior up to the NHL, resigned as Columbus Blue Jackets' head coach. That CBJ HC job of his had been his 1st job as an NHL coach since having been Toronto Maple Leafs' head coach as recent as November 2019, and after he'd been caught having demanded to see whatever photos various then-players of the Ohio NHL team had had on their phones, he resigned and, to my knowledge, hasn't been hired by another sports team. Priestman, Lombardi and Mander, for having been implicated in Dronegate, have already been sanctioned by FIFA although:
- the last 2 coaches, before the 1st game of CanWNT, had already by the Canadian Olympic Committee been ordered to leave the Paris Games
- Priestman last week Friday Central European Time had already been ordered by the COC to leave the Paris Games and suspended by the Canadian Soccer Association pending the outcome of an external investigation ordered by the same soccer association
If you look closely she had no business coaching a national team in the first place. With her experience she could lead a youth team at best. She probably landed the job and received a contract extension despite the team's early WC exit because she probably had good connections within Soccer Canada.
Embarrassing. Anyone involved should be fired by Canada and banned from international football by FIFA
Whether that'll happen remains TBD. Yet when I think of:
- retired ex-Canucks winger Todd Bertuzzi, I think of a multi-month ban the International Ice Hockey Federation slapped on him so that during the 2004-05 NHL lockout he wouldn't get to play internationally after a sucker-punch, late in the 2003-04 NHL regular season, on then-Avs' centre Steve Moore in what had become the so-called Bertuzzi-Moore incident
- Mike Keenan, I think of such a head coach known to have had a short fuse to have even been fired by the NY Rangers' team he'd coached to a Stanley Cup, ultimately choosing to go overseas to continue his coaching career
- Joel Quenneville, I think of:
-- a resignation from his Florida Panthers' head coaching job despite a start to the 2021-22 regular season with 7 wins in 7 games after an outside investigation the Chicago Blackhawks' team of which he, too, had been a head coach had found he'd covered up sexual abuse perpetrated by then-video coach Brad Aldrich on prospect Kyle Beach during the 2010 NHL postseason
-- someone who, as far as I'm aware, has yet to find a job in the NHL even with permission that Commissioner Gary Bettman had given Quenneville to seek job opportunities within that league (even with the recent puzzling hire of Stan Bowman by the Oilers to be their GM despite his having participated, as GM of the Blackhawks, in the SAME cover-up as Quenneville)
I have no factual basis to conclude Priestman ordered the drone footage, but what does it say about her leadership if she didn't know what her staff were doing? Not good -- Ms. Priestman should resign, in my opinion. I feel sorry for the players who I think had a at least a puncher's chance of repeating as champions.
Canada Soccer starting the Olympic drama early
The French love this I’m sure. Get Canada out of soccer by any means necessary.
@@redbaron8130 PUNK.
@@johnlee3339 Just saying. Now there is news the men’s team was doing it to. No surprise there.
@@redbaron8130 They failed. CANWNT defeated France 2-1 in today’s game.
My flabber is completely gasted.
Priestman is done as a national team coach! She will be lucky if she can coach anywhere at any level.
too be honest she could barely coach to begin with , maybe the drone was the coach and reason the womans team turned it around after herdman and than christine sinclair left
@@nightshift3635 HERDBOY used DRONES too ?? .. Iti s a Canadian thing - EH ??
Allegations of a toxic work environment followed Mike Babcock after having coached the Toronto Maple Leafs but before a much briefer stint as head coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets. Allegations he'd asked then-members of CBJ's roster to show him photos on their smartphones ultimately prompted him to resign before preseason play was to last September begin. The then-GM of the Ohio NHL team, Jarmo Kekäläinen, would for unrelated reasons be sent packing albeit in February after in regular-season play the CBJ had put up a 16-26-9-1 win-regulation loss-OT loss-shootout loss record, bad enough for, over 52 games, just 42 points and points % of 40⁵⁄₁₃. The CBJ struggled that season even without Babcock, ultimately ending the regular season with a putrid 27-43-10-2, bad enough for 66 points over 82 games and P% of 40¹⁰⁄₄₁, a bit worse than just the record under Kekäläinen.
Is Priestman a soccer version of Mike Babcock? It's good to ask although even if evidence emerges of wrongdoing by her, it may not be anywhere near similar to what sent him packing from the CBJ.
@@nightshift3635 It's true, she basically had no knowledge of the sport when it comes to tactics. She had zero experience of coaching a national side and yet Soccer Canada handed her the head coach position, and gave her a contract extension despite a first round exit from the World Cup. She likely has some strong connection within Soccer Canada.
@@johnlee3339 when did herdman become canadian?? and if he did he was smart enough not to get caught unlike priestman who had no coaching skill and relied on them entirely
It's a blessing in disguise, an absolute gift for this team if she leaves. She was never a good coach, she was tactically stupid when compared with the likes of Pia Sundhage, Jill Ellis, Sarina Wiegman, Emma Hayes, etc. I have no idea why she deserved this job in the first place with her experience. At best she could be in charge of a U-16 team. Also never understood how her contract was extended despite Canada being eliminated in the first round of the world cup. Anyone would be an improvement from her.
In the case of Bielsa, he stated that his spying only gave him very minimal advantage. It served only to satisfy his suspicions about small things and not to give huge gains.
Maybe that's the case for Bielsa who is a legendary coach. For the rest of the coach this is a huge advantage. No question about it.
Despite it being fairly common in sports, as a Canadian, I'm still embarrassed. Winning doesn't mean anything if you cheat to get there.
Bruh,you can't make examples of other instances to justify what Canada has done.Also,it was said that the Canada's men team has done this during the Copa America.
I'm really ambivalent about this whole thing. People are going to lose their jobs, as they should, for getting caught but I am not naive to the rampant cheating that occurs in this sport. I am actually surprised that CSA give a shit enough to actually try it. In the world of competitive sports it is all good as long as you don't get caught. PED's, drones, cash, it is all on the table and I am sure you can think of some athletes and organizations that off the top of your head that have also done this.
Priestman has been kicked out of the olympics ...unbelievable ..what has CANADA soccer been doing ..this is crazy ..just crazy
Fire her, she knew!
so embarrassing for Canada
Geez, and I thought US Women’s Team were insufferable. Canada giving them a run for their money.
Better check your facts... just read that she's been removed as the head coach.
To be fair, this was filmed before that was announced. And also for you to states that she was removed as head coach is slightly incorrect, she was removed only for the Olympics. Pending the rest of the investigation.
@kevinwilkie2150 Was she not removed?... YES! I didn't specify for good... I simply said she was removed!? Don't overread what wasn't written! But I bet after they complete their investigation, she will be permanently removed!
Wouldn’t the whole staff be aware of it, more than Priestman?
I think Priestman should be fired, but then again I thought Herdman should have been fired after the 'F Croatia' incident, so what do I know.
You have HONOR - something missing from those that pick the coaches.
Gee, Priestman has now been contradicted in her assertions that she was not involved. Goodbye, and good riddence. Sure others do it, but Canada Soccer and Priestman herself passed themselves as all-holy, all-ethical players that wouldn't engage in this tyoe of behavior. Liars.
liars....lie.
Opposing teams wont notice drones flying over their training sessions randomly? Lol this is the dumbest way to try and cheat ive ever heard of. A drone flying around is hardly covert
SHE S GONNA WRAPED HERSELF IN THE RAINBOW FLAG AND CRY UNFAIR !
Man, you're sure making apologies for this mess. I guess you're pretty close to the people involved.
no video has ever been more outdated coverage wise 16 hours after posting than this one.
Using a drone will not help you win. This is a joke that the Olympic for you.
CANWNT didn’t need any drones to beat France today.
Ohhhhhhhh Canada, our home and native drones..!!🇨🇦
you ccreated awesome drone. till next time-📽
OKiwi here,so sad our NH family sunk this low,
Bit after the game NZ players didn't want to be near the Canadians
Please all knew about it, was a normal practice for them!
Prove it.
I think this is getting blown out of proportion. Teams in all other sports do this stuff all the time. They don't get caught. They could actually be cheating and paying refs to fix games. This is nothing lol.
You say other teams do it all the time. Please name some teams and provide your proof.
FIFA is now investigating the CWNT for cheating at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.
TSN revealed both men and women teams have been doing this for YEARS!!!! This is more than embarrassing and a sad day for Canadian sports. I hope they cut the problem from the root, banning, stripping medals if required. This is like cancer. No excuses
Drones...really?? its a football game not a summer offensive in the Ukraine.
Had the perpetrator been any other country than Canada, the entire squad would have been disqualified and sent home. But its Canada and they have friends. Oh Canada! Posting from Northern Ontario.
Absolutely! Any other country doing this would be banned for a long period of time. Exemplary punishment they say. This a sad day for Canadian sports anyways.
The CANWNT players didn’t know what their coaches were doing behind their backs. And there is no evidence or whistle blower testimony that they did know. Under those circumstances, FIFA wasn’t going to disqualify the team or any team under similar circumstances. Not if that kind of decision would be challenged and reversed on appeal.
@@fonkamex This turned out to be a happy day for the team. They overcame FIFA’s six-point penalty against them by defeating France. They will advance to the next round by beating Colombia next, a task very doable for them. Any other team, given the same circumstances, would have been punished the same by FIFA. There is no evidence or whistleblower testimony that the CANWNT players knew at all about the shady things that their head coach was doing like using drones to spy on other teams. The same can’t be said about their male counterparts on CANMNT.
If a South American country -besides Brasil and Argentina- would have done this, they would be immediately disqualified!
This is shameful...
these women should have to repay all expenses taxpayers incurred sending these cheaters around the world and dont tell me they didnt know all excuses aside cheating is cheating no matter who else does it
They didn’t know.
It has been happening for some time
they should be kicked out of the olympics and of the world cup
They are not Russia.
Now it makes sense why the Canadian women won the 2021 Olympic gold medal, and the men did very well in the recent Copa America.
CANWNT won because they were stronger defensively and better at penalty kicks than their opponents.
@@thomashong2938 They won cause they cheated. They knew the tactics of their opponent before the game even started.
@@StepnieW CANWNT won because they are fundamentally strong on defence and are better at successfully making penalty kicks than their opponents. Sweden has had great success with that formula and Canada, under Priestman, has followed their example. The womens team usually goes with the same formation and more or less the same lineup every game.
@@thomashong2938 "They are fundamentally strong on defense." Because they cheated, they knew what was coming because they spied on their opponent's tactics, offensively and defensively.
@@StepnieW What a crock. They win because they outplay their opponents on the pitch. Keep on whining. Oh, by the way. USWNT is a sad shadow of its old self. Going to love watching them miss the Olympic podium one more time.
We need to know what Jesse Marsch knows
he literally has only been here a month and a half
If you want to know about USMNT, Jesse’s your guy. CANMNT? He was hired as HC only recently. Had no previous connection to the team.
Something Tom Brady would be invovled in.
I'm Canadian, but for the integrity of the sport and game, Canada should not be allowed to keep the points. An example needs to be made so that no other Football Association attempts this again.
I tend to agree with this but my major concern is the fans that have bought tickets for other group stage games. Let the group stage play out as if it will only be a slap on the wrist then strip Canada of everything after the group stage regardless of their place and send them home. Further investigation needs to be conducted of activities at the Tokyo Olympics and the gold medal stripped if anything inappropriate is found.
Let the Olympic committee decide this one . I support our athletes. Respect.
@@theloniousm4337 Give them refunds -- why should they pay to watch CANADIAN CHEATERS.
@@theloniousm4337 I dunno what will happen to Canada Soccer even with a sex abuse scandal, during the 2010 NHL postseason, that had featured a cover-up, by then-execs of the Chicago Blackhawks, until after that team had won a Stanley Cup. The NHL allowed the Blackhawks to keep their Cup but in October 2021, after an external investigation the Blackhawks had ordered to be done on that scandal had found that Stan Bowman and Joel Quenneville had participated in that cover-up:
- Bowman resigned as Blackhawks' GM
- Quenneville, who in the 2010s had been Hawks' head coach, resigned his role as Florida Panthers' head coach despite having lead his team off to a hot start via wins of all their 1st 7 regular-season games
The Blackhawks weren't stripped of any draft picks and even got to in 2022 draft centre Connor Bedard 1st overall. That said, Quenneville, who'd resigned because likely he otherwise would've been fired, lost his job and even with NHL Commish Bettman having reinstated Quenneville's ability to look for work in any capacity in that league, the ex-Blackhawk ex-Panther head coach has yet to find employment in the NHL (and may end up not doing so).
They were penalized six points by FIFA. CANWNT beat France 2-1 today, nullifying the penalty imposed on them. A win over Colombia in the next game advances them to the next round.
Very pretty head coach… jeez
BEV PRIESTMAN is a national embarrassment, remove her from Soccer Canada immediately..she has never played the game, why is she head coach and why is her New Zealand wife Head coach of Canada U17.
Ridiculous.
It's interesting you bring up Priestman having never played soccer before having become head coach of Canada's adult women's soccer team. Kyle Dubas, whose 5-season tenure as GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, became one of the Pittsburgh Penguins not even a month after his tenure as one for the Leafs had ended and had once played hockey before repeated concussions as a teenager had forced him to stop playing.
Sheldon Keefe, who'd coached the Toronto Marlies, the Leafs' American Hockey League affiliate to a championship (Calder Cup), had a short career as a player, having been selected by the Bolts in the 2nd round of the 1999 NHL Entry Draft (47th overall) but having opted to start coaching after a knee injury, during the 2004-05 AHL season, had ended his career as a player. As head coach of the Leafs, Keefe oversaw just ONE playoff series win: an April 2023 one against the Bolts via, in game 6, a goal just over 4½ minutes into the 1st OT period by then-captain John Tavares. Yet during the same month as Keefe had seen his tenure as Leafs' HC end, the NJ Devils hired him. TBD will be what playoff success if any he gets to oversee in his newest role.
Kris(topher) Knoblauch, after having coached Kootenay Ice of the Western Hockey League (a Canadian major-junior one), Erie Otters of the Ontario Hockey League (part of, very much like the WHL, the major-junior Canadian Hockey League) and the AHL affiliate of the NY Rangers (Hartford, CT-based Wolf Pack), became a head coach of the Edmonton Oilers, leading that NHL team to just its 2nd post-1990s Stanley Cup appearance. Knobby, as he's also known, was drafted by the NY Islanders but understandably never played a regular-season or playoff game at the NHL level after having been drafted 166th during, and thus 5th in the 7th round of, his NHL Draft year.
John Tortorella aka Torts has had quite a temper but has been a head coach of different NHL teams from 1988 and is currently one of the Philly Flyers. His playing career lasted 4 or 5 seasons.
Yet do former players make good coaches or sports team execs? Not necessarily so. Jim Benning, selected 6th overall by the Leafs during his NHL Draft year, played parts of 6 and 5 respective seasons under contract to that team and the Vancouver Canucks' one of which he would eventually become GM, seeing few playoff games at that level (just 7) but >600 regular-season ones as a defenceman. Yet during his tenure as GM, the Canucks only qualified twice for playoff action and only during the 2019-20 season did that team win a playoff series.
Patrik Allvin, the 1st post-Benning Canucks' GM, has already overseen a playoff series win after having learned that being an exec of the Canucks hadn't been the same as that of the Pens. Allvin didn't have as long a career as a player in North America, having split his time between the East Coast (ECHL) and International Hockey (IHL) leagues before his decision, after 2 seasons of playing outside his native Sweden, to play much closer to home, ending his career with Mora IK of the Allsvenskan league, during the 2001-02 season, after having split time the previous season between that team and one with a team in Mainland Norway very close to the border with his homeland. Time will tell if Allvin will bring more lasting playoff success to the Canucks than Benning ever did, particularly with:
- departures of:
-- centre Elias Lindholm and defenceman Nikita Zadorov, for whose acquisitions last NHL season they'd used so much draft capital in those trades for those players with the Calgary Flames
-- Casey DeSmith, who they'd acquired last September in a trade with the Habs that'd sent winger Tanner Pearson back east
- acquisitions, just from early-July's free agent frenzy, 7 players including 2 (Jake DeBrusk and Danton Heinen) who only hours before had walked into unrestricted free agency from the Boston Bruins
She has never play the game? I could've sworn she played in the English women's league in the past....!!?
All of Canada should be kicked out of the Olympics this year. No excuse for cheating. Obviously this finally proves how Canada has finally started to gets wins in soccer over the past few years. Stick to winter sports like hockey and curling.
another ben johnson story ..shit
The media is spinning this as the Australian team told the police that there was drones flying above them. That is not true. The truth is that at the time of the drones flying they were in a no fly zone implemented by the French government. The Canadian soccer team were ignorant of this no fly zone area and it was the French police who caught these drones. It was not the Australian soccer team who told the police. According to sources within the soccer federations these drone incidences with teams spying on each other HAPPEN ALL THE TIME! The only thing that was different is that Canada got caught and the police had to make a statement. Can you imagine if this was known by the public that this is a regular occurrence in the soccer realm. Someone had to pay for this mistake and unfortunately it was the stupidity of our national team coaches and players who didn't know there was a no fly zone in place. Don't kid yourself as if the players didn't know this was going on. Its a secret within their own associations. Your telling me the police intercepted text messages. Seriously! How naive can we be to accept this narrative.
New Zealand not Australia. There is no evidence that the CANWNT players knew that drones were being used to spy on other teams practices. Their coaches had to have known about the no-fly zones before going to the Paris Olympics. And they didn’t care, for whatever reason.
In the recent men's soccer championship, "Copa America", Canada came second...Canada beat Brazil. Was this rating honest? Didn't Canada use drones to spy on the Brazilian soccer team before the game too? Canada's Ministry of Sports should apologize to the world and severely punish everyone (coach, technicians and players) involved! = (gilberto lehrer - brasil)
Pele wouldn’t have used drones as an excuse for why Brazil’s national team lost to Canada.
Send them all home!! Canada is no inocent like the world thinks. The whole team, Preistman, Soccer Canada etc etc all knew. Start a commission LOL Canada will never learn, Ben Johnson??? Doing this at the Olympics is asinine!!
whole team should be sent home
Not the players fault for what the coaches did behind their backs. There is no evidence or whistleblower testimony that shows otherwise.
Lifetime ban for the entire organization. Teach these cocky lesbians a lesson.
I think they are beyond that L stage. They had a trans member at the last Olympics.
@@Tiglath-PileserXIX yea I know, Canada is so cringe with their woke agenda
@@johnq2068 I think he/she is still playing for this embarrassment of a team and was on the pitch for the game against NZ. Canada should stick to ice hockey and curling where there "appears" to be no room for this woke agenda. Posting from Northern Ontario.
It is amazing that anyone cares so much about women''s soccer to buy a drone,
😂
It's amazing you can breathe.
WHAT A CLASSIC GAY ACTION OF EMPOWERMENT.
lets face the truth bev priestman ws never a good coach the team carried and most likely the drone saved her over the last few years
it is cheating period
Very New England Patriots of the Canadian Women's Soccer Team! Quite shameful. Priestman has not impressed me at all. Canada was useless at the World Cup in Australia and how she managed to keep her job is too funny. I cannot see the Canadian Team making the medals, never mind winning the tournament. Go France! Go Brazil! Go Japan!
Canada's adult women's soccer team has 1 win and likely will need just 2 more points to be sure of clinching a top-2 spot and thus automatically qualify for the knockout stage. That said, the last time the relevant Canadian team faced a host country of a given intercontinental tourney, that team was shut out, with the relevant Australian team having, via its convincing win, sent its Canadian counterpart home from the relevant 2023 FIFA World Cup.
The Thursday Eastern Daylight Time Canada-NZ game featured a slim win by the relevant Canadian team even with that win in regulation at 2-1. That said, the start was so slow that it took until the 4th minute of extra time in the 1st half to score. Mackenzie Barry's goal during the 13th minute came after the relevant Canadian team against which she'd been playing hadn't buried any of its chances into the NZ net. Start that slow against the host French team, and I don't like the relevant Canadian team's chances of even getting a point in that game, with that game scheduled for this weekend on Sunday afternoon EDT.
Who knows how much stoppage time there'll be in the 1st half in the Canada-France game should the relevant Canadian team find itself once again down 1-0? Just imagine if Cloé Lacasse hadn't tied that game 1-1 when she did. It might very well have been that a tie in the Canada-NZ game would've meant, with the win by the French team over its Colombian counterpart, that simply due to a disciplinary point slapped on the CanWNT due to a yellow card (given to Kadeisha Buchanan), but none slapped on the NZ side, the CanWNT would've ended up 3rd in Group A. Had there been a loss, it could very well have been the relevant Canadian team, not the NZ one, would've been dead last. We could be talking about a similar outcome to the 2022 FIFA World Cup with respect to Canada's adult men's soccer team (CanMNT), with, after, within Group F the:
- 1st game, the respective Belgian, Croatian, Moroccan and Canadian teams with 3, 1, 1 and 0 points, but with the Croatian team, unlike the Moroccan one, not had a disciplinary point slapped on it
- 2nd game, the respective Croatian, Moroccan, Belgian and Canadian teams with 4, 3, 3 and 0 points, with, on goal difference, the respective Moroccan and Belgian ones having been +2 (2 scored, none allowed) and -1 (1 scored, 2 allowed)
- 3rd game, the respective Moroccan, Croatian, Belgian and Canadian teams having ended up with 7, 5, 4 and 0 points
The Belgian adult men's team's 2-0 loss to its Moroccan counterpart at the relevant Qatar 2022 World Cup would turn out to be fatal because as much as a tie would make things close between the Croatian and Belgian teams, the Belgian team would've needed to end the group stage portion of its tourney with a WIN but due to no goal scored by either team, the Croatian one, unlike the Belgian one, advanced out of the group stage. The CanWNT had, after 2 games at the 2023 relevant World Cup, put up 4 points over 2 games via a respective draw against and win over its Nigerian and Irish counterparts. A draw would've meant a top-2 finish and a trip to the knockout stage at the relevant Australian team's expense, with 1st and 2nd likely decided on goal difference or, barring that, goals scored between the CanWNT and its Nigerian counterpart. Instead the relevant Canadian team missed out on knockout stage action by a single point.
@@wainber1 CANWNT won their must-win game against France today, thanks to goals from Jesse Fleming and Vanessa Gilles. In doing so, they overcame the six-point penalty imposed on them by FIFA. A win against Colombia will advance them to the next round.
@@thomashong2938 Respective goal differences of +2 and +1, after 2 games CanWNT and its Colombian counterpart have played, pending the game against each other to end group stage play, make a win by ANY margin for CanWNT a way to clinch an automatic knockout stage spot (realistically the only way to do so because ending up with 1 point likely will mean, if 3rd place is where CanWNT ends, that team will have the lowest # of points among 3rd-place teams in groups A-C, and thus not advance to the knockout stage).
The team needs to be disqualified from this tournament.
No, it does not.
That makes no sense at all. That's like disqualifying the whole track and field team
over one person on the team getting caught for doping in their event. 🤔🤔😣😣
That is not the solution. The players had absolutely no say in the coaching staff doing this.
@@thomashong2938 I dunno if Canada's adult women's team will be disqualified from the Paris 2024 Olympic tourney although TBD will be whether whatever momentum that team generated from that win over its NZ counterpart will translate into at least a point against its French counterpart in that weekend game. Get 5 or more points, and likely CanWNT will finish top-2 in Group A but get only 3, and there'll be no guarantee of qualifying for the knockout stage (with the top-2 3rd-place teams, among those in the 3 groups, getting to join the top-2 teams in each group in the knockout stage).
the entire team needs to be expelled and sent home
As someone from Northern Ontario, I agree.
They weren’t and won’t be. No evidence or whistleblower testimony that the players knew that the coaches were doing shady things. Under those circumstances, neither the IOC nor FIFA will expell the team. The Canadian track and field team wasn’t disqualified in 1988 as a result of what Ben Johnson and his coach did with anabolic steroids.
@@thomashong2938 Ben Johnson was stripped of his medals may want to remember history a little better
@@craigcanning5836 Yes, he was. But the rest of the track and field team wasn’t punished for his actions.
@@thomashong2938 because it’s an individual sport not team nice attempt but you failed