Poldark, Season 4: Elizabeth Warleggan - Happy at Last?
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2018
- A happy marriage, feeling at home in London, and Elizabeth’s friendship with Ross. Heida Reed (Elizabeth Warleggan) discusses Elizabeth’s joys in Season 4.
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It just struck me that Elizabeth had 3 baby daddies. Francis Ross and George. Lol
You’re so ghetto
She had one child to every man that loved her
@@carflk916 "loved"
In the show, I do believe Elizabeth loved George, I never read the books, so I cannot tell on the behalf of that.
She married him for money at first, but George has always treated her in the best way possible, never looked at other women, always tried to buy her the best things, dresses, jewelry, provide for her child, as he pays for Geoffrey Charles’ schooling. I feel like she learned to love him, or at least a liking of him.
I, personally, really enjoyed them as a couple, I think George is a best fit for her, they are truly meant for each other.
Yes! She chose him for a life of ease and she got it. Ironically, Ross is the most unfaithful of the 3 leading husbands.
I think it's interesting that for the supposed "villain," George turned out to be a completely faithful, far better spouse than many of the "heroes."
I also think George was correct in his realistic (and surprisingly humble) reading of Elizabeth's feelings for him when he proposed. I think she must have at least liked and respected -- if not loved -- him at the time. I believe the film version, at least, indicates that her feelings did warm to love eventually, even if it wasn't as deep as his love was for her. There are a number of scenes in which Elizabeth initiated tenderness towards him, which you wouldn't expect if she didn't love him.
In the book, it's hard to decipher how she felt since we never got to see inside her head like the other characters. We always 'look at' Elizabeth. I actually agreed that she might end up loving George in her own way but not open enough with him (i.e Valentine, for obvious reason). But I can tell for sure that George did sincerely love her. He's faithful to her, treated her very well and missed her even after she's long gone and he's remarried to Harriet.
I always felt that Elizabeth for George was a trophy, a culmination of his ambition to be accepted by the old aristocracy, and a symbol of his victory over Ross. George never seemed to be a person capable of love; it never mattered to him who the people in his life were, only to what they could be used for. Yes, it was mentioned a few times that he and Elizabeth understood each other rather well, and that she even impressed him with some of her qualities, but I would never call it love.
@@ostatnifajek128 I definitely think he loved her. In the show he became mentally ill when she died. He literally almost fell off a cliff out of despair and grief.
My mouth dropped when Jeffrey Charles said Valentine was the spitting image of Uncle Ross. How could he do that to his mother?
EmpressElizabeth1920 I don’t think he realised what he was saying though. I don’t think he has any idea.
He just said his brother looked like his uncle Ross. I love him,he always spoke what he saw, like when valentine was a baby and a toddler, he said that he was a lot darker and he didn't look like him at all and marweana told him he looked like his mother
he was a teenager. They don't think- they spout whatever's on their minds. I loved it because it was true,
It was in the script
Lol.
I just started the series 2 days ago (currently halfway through season 2) i'm in utter shock watching this. The binge is on...
Be careful to avoid spoilers - they're everywhere! (Unless of course you're looking for them :)!)
Does anyone know when is s4 going to be available on amazon prime?
Thank you for the explanation of Elizabeth and the people in her life. Poldark excellent.
Heida is an amazing actress. To fawn all over someone as despicable as George is great acting. Hubby kept saying, eewwwwwwwwww how can she not throw up? I do tear up at the last scene at Trenwith when George enters the carriage & we see Elizabeth's ghost walk past. At least Aunt Agatha wasn't waving from the window saying, By Georgie. lol
I watched the original poldark and I absolutely loved it, the judge is this version is played by Robin Ellis who played the original poldark in the 1970s series, I am amazed by how well they have portrayed this version, it's brilliant, I love it as much as the original!
I love George & Elizabeth. They became a true power couple in season 4...shame how it ended though. 😔
What have they done to Ross’s beautiful hair!
While I think George and Elizabeth played their parts wonderfully. Elizabeth being love with George not once was she convincing on that part. George was "means to an end" for Elizabeth once again only thinking of herself. George I believe truly loved Elizabeth that pretty clear from the beginning, but I thought it was a possessive/controlling kind of love. He was obsessed with her which I found to be pretty creepy.
I agree, George’s love for Elizabeth is very similar to Elizabeth’s love for Ross
Just seen season 4 and cant wait for season 5 😊😊 one of the best televisionshows ever 😍😍
For ever and ever and a day!
I think she did care about George but I'm not willing to go so far as to say she was in love with him. She married him to avoid poverty and loneliness after the death of Francis. Her main concern was the comfort, happiness, and social status of her children. She wanted George to believe Valentine was his so that Valentine could inherit and have good standing in society. So, she took the concoction to induce pregnancy so she could say that she always has her babies at 8 months instead of 9. God only knows what was in that bottle. George is an enigma to me. On the one hand he is horrible. He is mean just to be mean. He has no scruples, compassion, or honor when dealing with others. On the other hand, he truly loves his wife. He's a good husband to her (except for the fact that he wanted to be rid of Geoffrey Charles since he was not his son). In the books, Elizabeth does the same thing she did in the show so she could ensure Valentine's place in society and his happiness. There's 12 books and she dies in book 6 or 7. The story itself spans 37 years so there's a lot that happens after her death.
I think he loves her as much as he is capable of loving someone. But i think if he really, truly loved her, he wouldn’t treat her son (Geoffrey Charles) like dirt and take pleasure in his misery... He knows how much she loved him but he is vile towards him anyway...
The medicine was ergot.
@@sofiab2920 But George didn't treat Geoffrey Charles badly until the kid persistently showed contempt to him. He was a generous godfather when GC was little. Later, as his stepfather, he paid for GC to go to a posh school, something neither Francis nor Ross could have provided him. GC never expressed gratitude to George for that, nor did he ever appear grateful that George was paying for all the expenses and maintenance of his ancestral home. Instead, he frittered away his money on drinking, gambling, and prostitutes. The kid thought he was entitled to George's money without showing him any respect. If I were George, I wouldn't have any use for GC either.
@Qwertyuiop exactly George loved those who were his own. He literally grew a heart in his empty chest for Elizabeth. He probably would have embraced Geoffrey a bit more if it wasn't for Geoffrey constantly taunting that he believed his dad and Ross were better because they were Poldarks. Elizabeth also realized too late the manipulative power she had over George and could have helped with George accepting her 1st son more in the beginning. She could have actually made George a better man but sadly. But either way George will always dislike or hate Poldarks and Geoffrey will always be a Poldark
@@valrfl I agree. If Geoffrey Charles showed George any type of affection, George might have been less hostile toward him. But nope, both are firmly opposite as Geoffrey Charles is a proud Poldarks and most of the Poldarks (except Demelza and her kids), would view George as an upstart in addition of just being a horrible human being.
My favorite show, masterpiece absolutely 🌳🇬🇧
George really adores Elizabeth. 💘
Actually he doesn't, hes obsessed with owning her partly because he mistakenly thinks Ross still loves her and partly to say "look who I married" not quite the same thing.
@@janebradley1846 I agree, Jane. Elizabeth is the top of his success. George is the husband Elizabeth needs. Brother of them risk their Hearts.
Yes he does however, it is tainted by his hatred of Ross. He wants Ross to suffer which is a big reason why he proposed to her after Francis died. He loves to rub it in Ross' face that he is Elizabeth's husband.
I don't think so... in my opinion, Elizabeth might have been the only person George really loved (except for their son, maybe). He truly did everything for her and he kind of forgave-forgotten the fact that he wasn't sure Valentine was his child.
He learned to love all of her children and previously accepted Francis as her husband.
Okay, he hated Ross, but he had his own reasons.
He made himself rich just because he wanted to be enough for her.
What kind of person does that for another?
Don't joke yourself, c'mon.
I'm not saying George is a good person, but doubting about him loving Elizabeth is too much cruel and unfair.
Love's not a game, babies. It's sacrifice.
@@chloeprice3784 'Her' husband you mean, I think.
George didn't love Geoffrey Charles. He wanted him out the house and when he was studying and away from Elizabeth, George could pay all his attention to her.
Elizabeth let George swore on the bible that he believed Valentine was his son and took Ross his advice for granted to have another child with George to secure George's love for her. And it worked.
To remain that love she took a big risk, by having an early delivery of Ursula because she knew that George was always doubting if Valentine was his own son.
How men could have such influence on women's life in that time, is really scaring.
In which episode this moment 0.05 ?
You can say all you want about George, but my god that man was down BAADD for Elizabeth and I couldn't blame him lol.
And for theSeason 5???
Elizabeth son in the show disagrees and said she only ever loved Ross.
What's the story line for season 5
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I started to really like them as a couple in season 4, as despicable as they are. I feel like George was a better person with Elizabeth but the season's end really took me by surprise 😢
Really I need to finish writing the ending of this series. A good author/producer should have gone on and finished the series. It was clipped to soon.
How I can find season 4 on the internet
Netflix 😊
But its doesnt exist
@@phucthovong3736 what doesnt exist??
Episode 1 ->8 doesnt exist
@@phucthovong3736 yes it does on Netflix ihave just seen season 4 👏👏sorry not Netflix but i have seen it on nett tv.
Too bad she's gone... Who's going to restrain George Warleggan now?!
Gone where? Does she die somehow?
I 4got She died in the last episode.
@@mai.vancon
Thank you... 😁
I haven't seen that far yet.. I am thinking about reading the books... I have read all the Outlander & seen some... So, was thinking this needs to be my next story to read... I love to see the shows & read the books to get the more details... 😀 I am also one that will not read or watch unless someone proves to me that it is worth it...
I 4got I 4got sorry if I spoiled it for you.
You should really watch it tho. I've been following the show since the first episode, but I haven't read the books or watched the 1st TV adaptation. I started watching this because of Aiden Turner, but I've also become invested in the other characters (sometimes I even feel sympathetic towards George Warleggan of because of how good the story is), the script and the "mise en scène".
@@mai.vancon
Oh no.... You didn't spoil anything at all... Lol.. I refuse to read, or watch something untill someone tells me the story.. I am a person who will beg someone to tell me the ending... Lol.. I truly love BBC, and PBS TV movies... They are to me the best... I also feel for George, especially now that I know his true love is going to die... He will now know what he had... My favorite character is Ross's wife... Lol.. I can't spell her name.. She is a beautiful soul, and less forgiving than I could ever be... So, do not feel bad at all...
Elizabeth is wicked and selfish… jealous…Delmelza in Season 1 episode 8 Sacrifice her health & self and their child’s Julia life to take care of the Poldark whole family during their sickness for Elizabeth to seduce Ross just because she new he had lingering feelings from the past which he was confused about but afterwards he committed adultery he realized he was really in love with Demelza and just idealized Elizabeth.. his true love is Demelza and just admired Elizabeth and once he obtained her he discovered who he really wanted and couldn’t bare to lose and that is Demelza, an imperfect but deep, everlasting, pure and true love…
I love Ross saying in front of Elizabeth that Demelza is the love of his life and Demelza on her sick bed waking up saying did you come to take you and Ross responding no my love she can never take me…
Later in Season 2:5- 9 Elizabeth play games to get Ross attention thinking it will make him chose her over Demelza but all she gets is a one night stand because Ross acts in a moment of weakness and anger angst George marrying Elizabeth but never thinking about the consequences but afterwards realizing that Elizabeth was just an affection from the past
Elizabeth and George deserve each other
Thank you so much for speaking the truth. I honestly stopped watching the show after season 2. After all the trials Ross went through with His wife, losing a child, facing destitution where she stayed by His side and yet he had the nerve to cheat on her. He never loved her. I was utterly disgusted I couldn't continue. Did his vows mean anything? Clearly he's not a man of any form of commitment or to his word
@@christelajean did you ever finish it?
@@cya2139 no, I haven't. Took a break. Was annoyed when His wife retaliated and cheated
Do anybody know? Was Elizabeth killed off in the book. I was devastated. Killing off the main star. Elizabeth made this movie. It was Poldark, George & Elizabeth. They are the main top actors in the storyline, irreplacable!
She does die in the books in the same way.
You have to read the books before you have a opinion, now you are asking and guessing and know nothing exactly.
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The Ross and Demelza foolishness is getting tiresome, The episode with Ross, and that idiot dueling was ridiculous. I have definitely enjoyed Poldark, and I hope I'm not beginning to tire of the series. If so there is only Series 5 remaining.
She is my least favorite character in the series. She destroyed Francis, Ross for a while, and George because she is totally selfish and childish. She had no right to tell Ross that she loved both him and Francis. She even put herself before her unborn daughter by taking that concoction to have her early. Horrible!
Only thing that is clear to me is George is the best husband one can wish for. Ross is the worst for a husband. Francis was good for nothing. Elizabeth is my least favourite female character, always so vulnerable, seeking luxury while destroying other marriages and never making up her mind about a one man. Demelza is clever but too blinded by love, letting Ross take her for granted. At least she had the guts to has her fling with Hugh. Hugh would have been the best husband for Demelza if he ever lived, He loved her for who she is.
Yes, another person who thinks what I think. Elizabeth was pretty despicable. She let George ruin other peoples lives, Morwenna especially.
I know they are just characters on a show , but the cast really could suspend belief.
Isn't it funny that the villain in the show was faithful to his wife, unlike the protagonist of the show? lol
Do you really think Hugh who gets mixed up with his saviour's wife is a good fit for husband? Demelza is much more refined when Hugh meets her, Ross knows her when she is caked with filth, who do you think actually loves her for who she is? And that whole fling while understandable, isn't something to be cheered on, two wrong doesn't make a right.
Hugh did not love demelza for who she was lol their relationship was never more then superficial it's far more likely that he just was liberated after spending years in a French prison and not seeing any women throughout that duration for him to suddenly arrive on poldarks shores and be greeted by a young pretty and compassionate woman that was also the first women he had seen in years causer Hugh to become Infatuated
She was never happy with what she had at the moment.
I’ve never hated two characters as much as I hate George and Elizabeth.
Can't stand this character. She was just as vile as George.